Get another coffee in you..... Hey thank you for watching. This is a great tent. Insane space in the inner never mind the vestibule.. Strong and well made too... Just busted me carrying this and my drone and camera gear up to make this video.. ATB Tom
Great review I agree with you about the ton of space in the gt vestibul. This sommer we ( four adults )spent several evenings eating and drinking in my kaitum 3gt vestibule. Its was really windy and we just sat there and had a great time listening to the wind roaring outside.
Hey that would have been great. This vestibule just gives so much space and protection form the elements... Love being in a tent with the wind roaring outside.... Really nice tent by the way.. Tom
Hi thank you for your feedback.. I really do try to keep my videos as realistic as possible. When you actually do the review on a camping trip than things such as this crop up and can be included .... ATB Tom
Thank you for all your detailed comments so far and a big thank to Kevin Small for lending me this awesome tent... It is difficult enough to source tents like this so any offers to borrow for review are honestly very much appreciated.... ATB Tom
Hi William, thank you for your comments... Hey awesome to hear that you have a Keron 4 GT... Thats some tent for sure.. After testing this Kaitum I love the 3 or 4 pole tunnels so a Keron 3 would be nice if I was buying a 4 kg tent... I highlighted the vestibule here as this is definitely a killer feature if that's what you are looking for and it definitely delivers... ATB and I hope you are getting great use of the KERON... Tom
Good to see you back and the wait wasn't too long Tom! Hilleberg really do some great options and this is another I would choose for sure. Thanks for the top review👍
Hey glad that you enjoyed the video and appreciate you support on all my videos.... Yeah I got the tent and got it reviewed as I have a few other products lined up to review as well.... ATB Tom
Great Tom! You could have a game of basketball in that tent, such a lot of space. The ventilation looks sorted out and having vertical ends certainly enhances the liveable space. Brilliant review.
Thank you Shamus for your feedback.. It was great to experience a GT Hilleberg tents and also a different model too.. Very lucky thar subscribers offer them for me to borrow and review. Tom
Hi Tom, living in Ireland it’s difficult to get to see Hilleberg tents. However, I was in Holland recently and went to a brilliant outdoor store where they had about 50 tents set up, Hilleberg, Nordisk, MSR and others. I was like a kid in a camping store !! The tent that stood out was the Keron 4, it’s beautiful and the space. I scrapped my tent wish list and it only has the Keron 3 on it now, I took the Elixir 2 of cause I ordered it already 😉. Thanks for the review.
Hey Bastiaan, that would have been amazing to see all those tents... Yes at 4kg I would be going for a Keron 3. Recently I was deciding if I could manage the 4kg and I probably could so you never know. Love tunnel tents 10mm poles and double vestibules. ATB Tom
Hi Rob, great to hear from you... You liked the slomo ha ha.. Still have my sense of humour even after carrying my drone and the weight of this beast into the mountains on two occasions.... Tom
Tom, definitely a bit of luxury with all that space for one or two people. Looked surprisingly manageable in that 20l bag. Very sturdy in that wind and no doubt top quality👍 Over £1k is an eye watering price, especially if you are relegated to the vestibule😊
Hey Tom. Thanks for another very interesting review. Tremendous space for actually a very reasonable weight. The internal volume is particularly impressive for a 220cm long ground sheet. Lots of positives with this tent but more restrictive in its use given the large footprint.
Thank you Gary... Did you see your tent in the video? Yes space weight and strength are all in great proportion here... Definitely looking for a lot of flat ground to pitch and get the best out of this baby.... ATB Tom
Very much optimised for winter use. Large footprint is no more problem with snow covered land and very huge vestibule is perfect in winter if weather drives you "inside".
Great review as always. It looks like it would be an excellent choice for an extended trip or family backpacking tent. There would even be enough space for the dog too!
Hi Tom, I have thoroughly enjoyed your video's & the your reviews carried out in extreme weathers. I have two young daughters who love camping in our large family tent. They have watched a couple of your video's and on our next trip would like to do a night or two wild camping they are 8 & 7 the vestibule review would be very practical for us. With this in mind which tent would be suitable for a dad & two girls, we wouldn't need the four season black editions, especially if there are no mosquito netting.
Thanks again Tom! I'm cross shopping the Keron GT tents with the Kaitum GT tents, as a late season hunting base camp and for canoe camping. The cost differences between the two don't seem to reflect what you get when you go up to the black label. I.e., there seems to be more value at this price point in the Kerons for the $75 USD increase (between the Keron 4 GT and the Kaitum 4 GT), considering you get Kerlon 1800 and 10 mm poles, a touch more space, improved weather sealing (doorway into the vestibule, etc.). The slightly arched roof of the Kaitum in the longitudinal axis would make one think it might have slightly improved air flow over the outside in high winds over a Keron.
Hi thank you for watching and commenting.. I would probably prefer the Keron as when you go to the larger sizes then the poles get very long and would really benefit from being 10mm for strength.. Durability too will be better in a Black Label tent... The Kaitum will have good airflow but with the Keron it will be a bit like the Nammatj in that it doesn't matter due to the strength of the poles and fabric.... Never an easy choice though as too many options at a similar weight... ATB with your choice. Tom
As always, great video, Tom. I have many Hillebergs and just got a Nammatj 2. I also have many GT's. However, my challenge with them is that they are too small (2-person) for base camp and too heavy (and large for my backpack) for hiking with the vestibule (almost too heavy for me using alone without the GT). So, they are a compromise in all use cases. However, I go back and forth on this point with myself. Same with using a footprint or not. I like hearing opposing viewpoints.
Hi thank you for your comments.. Yes I change my mind a good bit regarding tents and their features... Sometimes it just takes something on a particular camp to happen and that makes you look at everything differently.. I too am very open to the points of view of others as I am still learning different ways of doing things.. hey best wishes with all of your tents... Tom
This was a very good review and it gives me a great idea as to how much room is in the tent being 5’8 Wanting to do an epically long bike ride and I’ve been thinking about the GT for rainy days now that they have the summer enters I think they’ll even be great for the heat in the US
Hey, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... I see that you have a good number of videos you RUclips yourself.. Good height too in this tent vestibule so sitting out the rain here definitely and option.... Hope you pull the trigger and get yourself a nice tent... ATB Tom
A joy to see you reviewing another tent I could live with, Tom. The two vertical walls do make a huge difference and the vestibule has had a great reaction. Top stuff. I'm wondering why they dropped the Keron 2 ? A Keron 3 is a tent I'd like you to test, if you get the chance but it might be more than enough for one person+. Nevertheless, a really good video. ATB.
Test a Keron 3?? Would nearly buy one ha ha.... But have gone to the dark side and got a Fjalraven coming next week... That will be some comparison against the Hilles...... Thank you for your positive comments but did I miss them on my Nammatj ??? (was it the audio? ha ha ). I would buy a Keron 2 over a Tarra I think if they made one... I heard they didn't sell too well and that's why they don't make them any more... Getting plenty of offers to test tents so you never know.... Just used the Lanshan Pro 2 which 3FUL sent me last night and it was awesome even if I honestly had to ring out my trek towel 7 times after wiping down condensation of the single layer.... But the lake I camped at always throughs up serious dampness and there was zero wind...One for you to watch out for.... ATB and hope you are well. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 G'morning Tom. I had a Keron 4 for a couple of years and used to sleep across it, but it proved to be too big. Adding a GT would be crazy. I would buy a Keron 2 in a New York heart beat if Hilleberg offered it again. A Keron 3 is a possibility for my future and I've been comparing it to my much loved and very cozy TN Super Quasar Expedition. . Re your Nammatj video, I watched it a couple of times, but all it did was reinforce all the reasons I regard this as a really shitty tent, a dreadful beast for all the reasons you mention. Mine was a GT and it was awful, awful !! Now, I've tried to understand why I feel that way and others seem to really like it. All I can conclude is that mine was an early 9mm pole version, plus there may have been too much fabric on the back end. However, you mentioned all my complaints. I'd wake up with my feet wet, or pillows wet. In rain, the ventilation was dreadful. The vestibule door design was crap as the top couldn't be dropped and the footprint was always wet. After rain, or heavy condensation, the inner was sodden and waiting for it to dry was a pain. Dreadful tent, imo, others opinion may vary. 7 wet towels in a single skin tent ? Not for me. Good testing though Tom. 🙂
Hey Dave thank you... A bit long for the back garden so I had to hump it up the hills twice and carry the drone too ha ha. There was a decent wind so good for the test. Didn't want to take or carry someone else's tent onto a summit in wind like this... ATB Tom
Hi Stuart, thank you again for the comment and support.. I hare you guys were out last night and it was awesome....Honestly not sure this is for me as just to heavy and a bit tricky to pitch in high winds on your own... Hope you have another trip planned soon too... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I didn’t make it out unfortunately! Was just AMC and his wee lad 👍🏻. I’m hoping for this Friday if all goes to plan. I love the idea of the GTs would just be concerned about getting a big enough pitch on the tops. Definitely a cracking bit of kit nonetheless 👍🏻👍🏻
Very nice review Tom. I enjoy the Kaitum 2 GT, but I wanted to hear your thoughts first. Though I've had many Hilleberg's, I've never had a Kaitum but for me the Kaitum series is Hilleberg's best all around. The Kaitum 2GT is the worst of the best in my opinion, due to a heavy weight, it requiring a long flat pitching area, and it providing excessive vestibule space and a narrow sleeping area. It's still impressive but I generally lean towards a standard Kaitum 3 for 2 people comfortably in all 4 seasons, or a 3GT if on a deep winter trip or with dogs. The biggest flaw with the Kaitum in my eyes is the lack of mosquito nets on the vents, this is a major flaw anywhere with insects and it requires the weight penalty of a Keron to fix it. Lastly, it's so expensive for such a narrow tent, that economically and for the minimal weight penalty the Kaitum 3 just seems to remedy things. It's certainly not underrated over here, it's popular as hell (the Kaitum series). Great video as ever.
Hey Green Panda, I really appreciate this feedback.. One of the first things I noticed was the lack of a mosquito netting on the vents as my Nammatj 2 has them.. Maybe its a Black Label thing.... don't actually know the answer... Great to hear of the Kaitums popularity but not too many videos on RUclips.... With the long footprint this tent is heavy and you absolutely need to be sure that is is for you... In the 2 its out of proportion for sure being so long... The length too for me is a bit excessive so I meant to suggest some improvements but ended up missing that one but you have done it for me thank you..If Hilleberg made a compact version 20 cm shorter then that would help..... ATB and loved your thoughts here... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks Tom. I was confident we were on the same page. Unfortunately Hilleberg are not really keen on modifying their tent designs so the advantages/disadvantages force you in to other models. Yes it's a black label thing but it really doesn't need to be I don't feel, and given the Kaitum is lighter and less stable than it's sibling Keron, with arguably more summer focus, you'd think mosquito nets would be more justifiable there than a Keron, or at least equally so. Bearing in mind you can't hardly prevent bugs with the Helags outer tent design. It's a minor point but it could mean the difference between a couple of midges or a swarm in your vestibule. I'd highly recommend a straight Kaitum 3, even 3 big tall people can fit at a push, and if it's without winter gear or dogs there's plenty of room. Another annoying thing with a Kaitum is that you can't simply bolster the tent to 10mm poles, but you can always double pole so I suppose it's not really the end of the world. I wish I'd started my hilleberg journey with either a Kaitum 2 or 3!
@@greenpanda7121 Good info, I hadn't noticed the lack of mosquito netting on the vents, but I had checked for 10mm pole availability. Sad I now spell Kailua as KERON ! 🙂
@@greenpanda7121 10 mm poles are available for the Kaitum 3 ( and 4 ). The only tunnel tent models you can’t get it for is the Kaitum 2, Nallo 2 and Anjan 2, which is sad. Double pole is an option, but is heavier than a set of 10 mm poles. I have a Kaitum 2. Agree with you regarding the lack of mosquito net in the vents. I would not believe it will be a dramatic weight difference to add. But it’s a Black Label thing.
@@sveinottoaar2543 great info thanks, my mistake about the 10mm for the kaitum 3. I haven't looked correctly then. Shame they aren't available for the Kaitum 2, great tent, and I really like the 10mm poles myself. I think Hilleberg is a company that refuses to change design, even in some cases where it would be a clear improvement, to simply move sales from one model to another. The lack of mosquito nets in Kaitum, given the weight difference would be nearly zero, whilst the jump to a Keron in weight is huge, is a good example of this. Additional pockets in the Allak 2 is another. Thanks for the helpful comment!
Wow - such luxury! Great to see what’s out there…you must be having sleepless nights Tom pining for this tent! Amazing space but I’d need to be in Sherpa or a strong man zone to carry that weight. I’m out tonight for a maiden trip in my new little Akto - totally influenced by you! 😉 Another Hilleberg disciple has been found 🤩
Hi Miriam, thank you for watching and the positive feedback.. Yeah I carried this beast and my drone on two occasions and managed no probs but for me not worth the extra space and weight penalty.. Out last night in the Lanshan and some difference and a palace inside too space wise... Really hope that you are happy with your AKTO as its one of my favourites. I was going to pack it last night but then the Lanshan arrived and a quick pitch in the garden to check it and I took it instead. ATB Tom
Another fantastic review Tom. I’d happily live in a tent that size. It looks more comfortable than my house😂 Brilliant bit of kit as is the Nammatj. At 3.8 kg it’s actually not bad considering the strength and volume. A full geodesic weighs more than that and is a lot smaller.
Hi Jamie, how are you and the Nammatj getting on? Really appreciate your positive feedback... Yeah I don't really think the geodesics are worth the weight penalty over tunnel tents anymore... Would prefer a Keron 3 to a Tarra for sure.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I agree. I think tunnel tents are the perfect compromise between weight and strength. Pitched correctly they are immensely strong. The Nammatj is absolutely fantastic 👍 Good to see you ended up getting yourself another. Enjoy 👍
Brilliant video as always. The GT over standard is a huge question. It really comes down to where you camp. The length of the GT makes for huge restrictions but it is a cracking tent. Personally im not a fan of tunnel tents but they have their merits. cheers
Hi Alan, You hit the nail on the head with that one... Your wording is excellent and I should have put it like that in my video.. Absolutely agree 100 percent regarding its where you camp... But after many years of Geodesic only I am now in love with tunnels... Maybe someday you will be too ha ha.. Thank you and good to hear your comments... ATB Tom
Hey Tom. Still been doing research and narrowed things down to the Kaitum 2 vs Rogen. Wondering if you've been able to check out the Rogen, especially the living space vs Kaitum. Do you think the Kaitum 2 would have enough room for 2 backpackers or would it be too tight? It's tough balancing weight vs strength and internal space. I'd be open to other options, of course if you think another tent may provide better living space and deliver a similar quality structure for my needs listed above. Was considering the Access 2 but have ruled that out. Thanks a ton bro! Hope youre doing well
Hey, great to hear your thoughts on a new tent..The Rogen is good space wise but probably not actually as roomy as the Kaitum which has more room and internal volume than most Hilleberg 2 person tents... The Kaitum also has two vestibules allowing you to orientate the tent always having one vestibule completely sheltered.. Its a good bit stronger than the Rogen too... The Nammatj 2 or 3 is another option at a similar weight but not as long in the real world due to the slop at the rear... Hope this helps and any further thoughts just ask... best wishes Tom
Yes to the vertical doors, for head and foot space, not having the condensation soak the end of your quilt, or sleeping bag. This is what I like about my Tarra, and is why I am going to add the Kaitum, and or Helags to my collection.
Hi Mark, you are so right vertical doors make a massive difference to the real world length... The inner length here in the Kaitum is insane... best wishes and I really hope you get one... Tom
@markofwisconsin Hey Mark I see you have a Tarra. I’m thinking about a Tarra but obs put off by its 4.3kg. Just wondered how you get on with it and whether you find the weight worth the extra effort? Cheers, Peter
You may want to consider that the length of the kaitum is very long. I had a kaitum 2 for a short time and there are camp space requirements that a kaitum + guylines are too big for. I also have the tarra and depending where you go, also had the same issue. Hilleberg mentioned they don’t recommend taking the kaitum up the mountain. Ultimately i went with the nammatj and let go of the kaitum.
Hi Harrison, thank you for your feedback especially as a Kaitum and Nammatj owner.. It sure is long and not for taking into terrain that you don't know and try to find a camp spot.... . On the two occasions that I used it I managed ok so must have been lucky enough... ATB Tom
Hi, nice review and fun to watch. Had to watch this in a hurry so I might have missed it but do you know that both vestibules can be opened and stowed away to make awesome porches? Absolutely a deal maker when camping with decent weather and a view. Another thing, it is perfectly possible to sleep crosswise with four adults in the 4gt. Keep making these reviews, awesome work!
Hey Ivor thank you for watching and commenting on the video.. As I only borrowed this tent I am unsure regarding the vestibule stowing away.. I did previously review a 4 person Saitaris and you could definitely lay across it. I had a look at the dimensions from the Hilleberg website and they are similar so I am sure that would work.. You can have a look at that video and it might help . All the very best Tom
Kaitum is a great tent. 3 pole design is much Superior to 2 poles. I think it's one of hillebergs most versatile options. Imagine the kaitum 2 (not gt) is basically same weight as a black label Soulo?
Hey, my camping friend has a Kaitum 2 and it really is a fantastic tent.. I might even buy one at some point in the near future.... All the very best wishes Tom
Hello Tom, you have very good videos, I wanted to ask for your recommendations with a lippie granites 3 tent, I would like to know what you think about that tent, greetings from Chile
Hi thank you for your comments. I have searched for this tent but cant find it.... Could you send me a link and what type of conditions do you want to use the tent for...Tom
Hi Craig, I need to get someone to offer them to me and Hilleberg wont sponsor any tents for reviews... If someone offers I will be on it for sure... ATB Tom
There is only solid fabric on the vents which run at the sloping angle of the vestibule. You can unzip these. There is no mesh. Solid open. Solid closed…I hope this helps... ATB Tom
Very nice tent review, Tom. It’s a beast isn’t it? Massive amount of functional vestibule space and good living area too. As you say, the vertical walls gives it a good amount of usable space, especially if you’re a bit taller. I was going to ask you about a footprint, however I see you had one in the backyard pitch. Due to damp or wet ground and slightly overgrown terrain, I really like a footprint. So when are you getting a GT? 😀
Hi Barry thank you for your feedback... Yes this sure is a beast but good volume and strength for the weight. If you want big vestibule then no need for half measures so Hilliberg have done it right... For me the footprint size here just makes it too heavy... No GT for me as all my trips I am hauling it by myself ha ha. ATB Tom
I went for the Kaitum 2 last year as I thought the GT version was too long and might restrict where I could pitch it. The GT was a bit heavier too. I also own a Nallo 2 that I bought a couple of decades ago. They are great tents!
Hi Stuart, I totally agree about the length, weight and footprint of the GT model here.. My friend has the 2 and it really is a fantastic tent. I have considered the Nallo 2 on many occasions but another tent has just pipped it to the post regarding my particular camping requirements... Great to hear that you got two fantastic tents... All the very best Tom
Another great review Tom 👏 the GTs look awesome but I would be worried about its footprint. Did you struggle finding a nice flat area when you were up in the Mournes? Adam
Hi Adam, great to see you out last night... I used it twice with no issues at all but I knew where I was going ha ha.. Not a tent to be in the mountains looking for a suitable pitch.... For me a lot of wasted space but some people it will definitely suit.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Likewise Tom, we got the weather for it anyway 👍 Yes, that would be my concern as well. It would only be suitable for certain summits but nothing a good bit of planning can't sort 👍 the Kaitum looks a dark horse, I hadn't looked into it in ant detail but I like the look of it now 👍
I have a Kaitum 2gt an a Jannu and a Akto, but I’m thinking about getting a Hilleberg Rogen 2, is that a tent that you would consider doing a review on? I’m watching from Sweden I think you have a great content
Hey great to hear from you and your tent collection...Tom be honest I don't think I will be reviewing any Hilleberg tents for a while.. Not in my plans.. Best wishes Tom
Hey Tom. I am really interested in the Kaitum2. I am 6'2, 200lbs and my hiking buddy is similar in size. I'd be using it for regular backpacking here in Colorado in and above treeline, but the weather can change quickly and get really nasty with rain, thunderstorms, hail and snow. That happened last week to me in July! Anyways I'm looking for a solid tent, roomy enough for the two of us and not cramped. Considering the Kaitum3 but wondering if that is too much tent and unnecessary. Love your reviews as they are honest and thorough. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Happy travels!
Hi thank you for watching and great to hear your feedback.. Only 300g between the 2 and 3 so not much weight for the extra space.. But once you go to the larger models in any tent with longer poles and more fabric I feel that you loose some strength and weather resistance due to the extra tent volume... the 9mm poles that support the Kaitums are ok in the 2 but once you go to the 3 then I personally it wouldn't be for me.. But its just whether you favour weather resistance or internal space.. best wishes Tom
Yes based on the other two person tents it's definitely a good two person tent space wise.. Definitely more room than a Nallo 2 for example.. The 3 person version won't be that much heavier though especially when the weight is divided... It will have a big footprint though as it will be wide as well as very long... The 2 here will be more versatile as you could use it on your own and with 2 persons.. Always pros and cons and never easy to decide.. I hope that helps.. best wishes Tom
Hello, i am thinking about purchasing this tent. All in all, would you take this tent on a proper winter trip and not worry if It collapse? I was thinking about the Keron too, however, Katium seems to be better option for backpacking...
Yes it's very strong for winds up to 50 mph if properly pitched.. It's always a compromise between weight and strength and the Kaitum does this very well.. best wishes Tom
I just bought a Kaitum 2. Not arrived yet. My use is canoe trips, so weight and pack size are not so pressing for me. Given that, I expect the Kaitum 2 will serve me a little better than my Nammatj 2 in somewhat protected areas where it will be used. My Keron 3 or the Nammatj 2 are my weapons of choice for any canoe trips in the arctic regions where the wind can sometimes be pretty brutal. I don't think I would take a Kaitum up there.
Hi the Kaitum is a great all rounder and has an amazing space to weight ratio.. For lesser exposed or harsh conditions it's a great choice.... Best wishes Tom
The dad sleeping in the vestibule was probably doing his best to take care of his wife and kids because he feels the cold less than they do, so he was sleeping in the colder part of the tent.
Hi Tom, another nice test, great tent, great space and strength, if you can afford one why not, it’s just the weight, Is this better for car camping or expedition use I wonder. Ps tried the Nordisk Svalbard, had to send it back as my LW exped mat did not fit as it narrowed so much, so still looking for a strong one man tent with some space ! Cheers Adrian Keep em coming
Hi Adrian, that's a real pity... I think I messaged you earlier with that recommendation ha ha.. Hard to keep track of all my comments.... I think I mentioned the Fjalraven Abisko lite two it should fit in that.... Tom
Another great review but I'm going to have to stop watching them your going to bankrupt me lol I'm all tented up with my kuiu's but now I'm wanting a niak and a jannu lol think I need to win the lottery 🤣
Hi Craig, thank you for commenting and watching many of my videos... My next tent review will be on the 3 FUL Lanshan 2 pro and its very budget friendly... Who knows I may eventually go off the Hilleberg's due to the cost.... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I'm sure I'll watch it but it's not my type of tent tbh I always prefer to carry a little extra weight for the strength and security a tent with decent poles gives I understand some are on a budget and or looking for lightweight but it's not for me
Thanks for this Tom, really enjoyed watching this film! Really well made, and very informative! I was shocked at how light this tent was, for its size. From memory, is the vestibule in this tent bigger than the Saitaris? I really like the idea of sleeping in the vestibule.
HI Phil, You beat me to it.... The vestibule here seems much bigger as you kind of view it in proportion to tent size if that makes sense. Width wise a bit difference though... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Coincidentally, "not really adding information or experience that others can make use of" is a perfectly accurate description of 99.99% of RUclips. hahaha
Tom, I’ll have to see the full review later. Sorry. Right now, I’m over the moon with the news of the Russian Army’s collapse and the ongoing liberation of occupied Ukrainian territories. Beyond my wildest expectations. Sorry, I’m so happy!
Now I’ve managed to calm down, this is the usual excellent review I’ve come to expect. The GT aspect is something I have been curious about and will consider a GT model in the future. I thought it a humorous GT benefit where the vestibule becomes a separate emergency sleeping space after campers have a falling out.😂 Tom, have you had to double pole a GT tent and if so, was it worth it? Or, could one get by with a single pole? Thank you, Tom!
Hi Harry, I hope that you are well.. Great to hear your feedback once again....Awesome to hear you enjoyed my SOH.... Double poling a GT tent fine but so many poles I think you would need to double pole at least two poles.. The poles are also different lengths which makes it more complicated. With the Nammatj poles all the same then any extra pole can go anywhere and they can also be 9mm which is not too much extra to carry... ATB Tom
Sorry to hear about the Ukrainian army collapse you should stop listening to Fake news better luck next time! Ps keep wearing your mask 6foot apart 40 jabs later.. your one of them ain't you... ps Don't bring politics into a tent review.. lessons learnt.
@@TOMHEANEY100 :-) I think abbreviations are killing one's sayings, tiring the reader of listener. Use it as less as possible. My general opinion and atb is a great example to me being a foreigner. :-) greetings again!
My new favorite reviewer by far. Honest, detailed and always interesting, really enjoying the channel.
Get another coffee in you..... Hey thank you for watching. This is a great tent. Insane space in the inner never mind the vestibule.. Strong and well made too... Just busted me carrying this and my drone and camera gear up to make this video.. ATB Tom
Agree 100%
Great review
I agree with you about the ton of space in the gt vestibul. This sommer we ( four adults )spent several evenings eating and drinking in my kaitum 3gt vestibule.
Its was really windy and we just sat there and had a great time listening to the wind roaring outside.
Hey that would have been great. This vestibule just gives so much space and protection form the elements... Love being in a tent with the wind roaring outside.... Really nice tent by the way.. Tom
Hi Tom, great video. Thank you
Hey thank you for the comment and watching many of my videos now... Do you have a favorite tent? Best wishes Tom
I have not been able to get out recently and your videos have really lifted my spirits. Thank you.
Hey great to hear from you and thank you for the comment.. I hope you get back out really soon.. Best wishes Tom
Thanks Tom, another fantastic review. This is not a tent, its a palace. What a place to hang out in bad weather!
Hi Kevin you are right some fun here sitting out the bad weather for sure...Really appreciate your comments.. ATB Tom
Wow what a tent ,great video
Hey than you for your positive feedback.... ATB Tom
Great review, so like that you sit on your sleeping mat when showing the inside heights, as this shows realistically what to expect. Thanks, Tom
Hi thank you for your feedback.. I really do try to keep my videos as realistic as possible. When you actually do the review on a camping trip than things such as this crop up and can be included .... ATB Tom
Thank you for all your detailed comments so far and a big thank to Kevin Small for lending me this awesome tent... It is difficult enough to source tents like this so any offers to borrow for review are honestly very much appreciated.... ATB Tom
Great review. Very informative. I have the Keron 4GT and the size of the vestibules makes these types of tents game changers.
Hi William, thank you for your comments... Hey awesome to hear that you have a Keron 4 GT... Thats some tent for sure.. After testing this Kaitum I love the 3 or 4 pole tunnels so a Keron 3 would be nice if I was buying a 4 kg tent... I highlighted the vestibule here as this is definitely a killer feature if that's what you are looking for and it definitely delivers... ATB and I hope you are getting great use of the KERON... Tom
Brilliant review Tom thank you
Hey Stuart thank you for the positive comments. Great to hear your thoughts 💭 on the video.. ATB Tom
Good to see you back and the wait wasn't too long Tom! Hilleberg really do some great options and this is another I would choose for sure. Thanks for the top review👍
Hey glad that you enjoyed the video and appreciate you support on all my videos.... Yeah I got the tent and got it reviewed as I have a few other products lined up to review as well.... ATB Tom
Great detailed review Tom ....... 👌
Hey thank you Neil, hope you are well and we will have to get out for a camp again now that your season if finished I presume... Tom
Great Tom! You could have a game of basketball in that tent, such a lot of space. The ventilation looks sorted out and having vertical ends certainly enhances the liveable space. Brilliant review.
Thank you Shamus for your feedback.. It was great to experience a GT Hilleberg tents and also a different model too.. Very lucky thar subscribers offer them for me to borrow and review. Tom
Hi Tom, living in Ireland it’s difficult to get to see Hilleberg tents. However, I was in Holland recently and went to a brilliant outdoor store where they had about 50 tents set up, Hilleberg, Nordisk, MSR and others. I was like a kid in a camping store !! The tent that stood out was the Keron 4, it’s beautiful and the space. I scrapped my tent wish list and it only has the Keron 3 on it now, I took the Elixir 2 of cause I ordered it already 😉. Thanks for the review.
Hey Bastiaan, that would have been amazing to see all those tents... Yes at 4kg I would be going for a Keron 3. Recently I was deciding if I could manage the 4kg and I probably could so you never know. Love tunnel tents 10mm poles and double vestibules. ATB Tom
@bastiaan Bujis. Hey Bastiaan. Where was the shop?
@@paulbrown7735 Probably Zwerfkei in Woerden, although you also have a lot of tents at the Bever in Houten
Looking good Tom! Liked the slomo :)
Hi Rob, great to hear from you... You liked the slomo ha ha.. Still have my sense of humour even after carrying my drone and the weight of this beast into the mountains on two occasions.... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 ah yes, the life of a tent reviewer is full of struggles as such :) Glad to see you're feeling up to it again :)
Tom, definitely a bit of luxury with all that space for one or two people. Looked surprisingly manageable in that 20l bag. Very sturdy in that wind and no doubt top quality👍 Over £1k is an eye watering price, especially if you are relegated to the vestibule😊
Hi Gerry, thank you for your comments..... Excellent space for two people for sure and as you say very packable into a 20L bag... Tom
Hey Tom. Thanks for another very interesting review. Tremendous space for actually a very reasonable weight. The internal volume is particularly impressive for a 220cm long ground sheet. Lots of positives with this tent but more restrictive in its use given the large footprint.
Thank you Gary... Did you see your tent in the video? Yes space weight and strength are all in great proportion here... Definitely looking for a lot of flat ground to pitch and get the best out of this baby.... ATB Tom
Very much optimised for winter use. Large footprint is no more problem with snow covered land and very huge vestibule is perfect in winter if weather drives you "inside".
Great review as always. It looks like it would be an excellent choice for an extended trip or family backpacking tent. There would even be enough space for the dog too!
Hi John, thank you for your comments once again... Pity you didn't get to see this one.... A big dog at that or even a couple of them.... Tom
Hi Tom, I have thoroughly enjoyed your video's & the your reviews carried out in extreme weathers. I have two young daughters who love camping in our large family tent. They have watched a couple of your video's and on our next trip would like to do a night or two wild camping they are 8 & 7 the vestibule review would be very practical for us. With this in mind which tent would be suitable for a dad & two girls, we wouldn't need the four season black editions, especially if there are no mosquito netting.
Thanks again Tom! I'm cross shopping the Keron GT tents with the Kaitum GT tents, as a late season hunting base camp and for canoe camping. The cost differences between the two don't seem to reflect what you get when you go up to the black label. I.e., there seems to be more value at this price point in the Kerons for the $75 USD increase (between the Keron 4 GT and the Kaitum 4 GT), considering you get Kerlon 1800 and 10 mm poles, a touch more space, improved weather sealing (doorway into the vestibule, etc.). The slightly arched roof of the Kaitum in the longitudinal axis would make one think it might have slightly improved air flow over the outside in high winds over a Keron.
Hi thank you for watching and commenting.. I would probably prefer the Keron as when you go to the larger sizes then the poles get very long and would really benefit from being 10mm for strength.. Durability too will be better in a Black Label tent... The Kaitum will have good airflow but with the Keron it will be a bit like the Nammatj in that it doesn't matter due to the strength of the poles and fabric.... Never an easy choice though as too many options at a similar weight... ATB with your choice. Tom
As always, great video, Tom. I have many Hillebergs and just got a Nammatj 2. I also have many GT's. However, my challenge with them is that they are too small (2-person) for base camp and too heavy (and large for my backpack) for hiking with the vestibule (almost too heavy for me using alone without the GT). So, they are a compromise in all use cases. However, I go back and forth on this point with myself. Same with using a footprint or not. I like hearing opposing viewpoints.
Hi thank you for your comments.. Yes I change my mind a good bit regarding tents and their features... Sometimes it just takes something on a particular camp to happen and that makes you look at everything differently.. I too am very open to the points of view of others as I am still learning different ways of doing things.. hey best wishes with all of your tents... Tom
Many of the Hilleberg 4-season tents are much better suited for winter use with sled then the size/weight is not issue anymore.
This was a very good review and it gives me a great idea as to how much room is in the tent being 5’8 Wanting to do an epically long bike ride and I’ve been thinking about the GT for rainy days now that they have the summer enters I think they’ll even be great for the heat in the US
Hey, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... I see that you have a good number of videos you RUclips yourself.. Good height too in this tent vestibule so sitting out the rain here definitely and option.... Hope you pull the trigger and get yourself a nice tent... ATB Tom
A joy to see you reviewing another tent I could live with, Tom. The two vertical walls do make a huge difference and the vestibule has had a great reaction. Top stuff.
I'm wondering why they dropped the Keron 2 ? A Keron 3 is a tent I'd like you to test, if you get the chance but it might be more than enough for one person+.
Nevertheless, a really good video. ATB.
Test a Keron 3?? Would nearly buy one ha ha.... But have gone to the dark side and got a Fjalraven coming next week... That will be some comparison against the Hilles...... Thank you for your positive comments but did I miss them on my Nammatj ??? (was it the audio? ha ha ). I would buy a Keron 2 over a Tarra I think if they made one... I heard they didn't sell too well and that's why they don't make them any more... Getting plenty of offers to test tents so you never know.... Just used the Lanshan Pro 2 which 3FUL sent me last night and it was awesome even if I honestly had to ring out my trek towel 7 times after wiping down condensation of the single layer.... But the lake I camped at always throughs up serious dampness and there was zero wind...One for you to watch out for.... ATB and hope you are well. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 G'morning Tom. I had a Keron 4 for a couple of years and used to sleep across it, but it proved to be too big. Adding a GT would be crazy. I would buy a Keron 2 in a New York heart beat if Hilleberg offered it again. A Keron 3 is a possibility for my future and I've been comparing it to my much loved and very cozy TN Super Quasar Expedition.
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Re your Nammatj video, I watched it a couple of times, but all it did was reinforce all the reasons I regard this as a really shitty tent, a dreadful beast for all the reasons you mention. Mine was a GT and it was awful, awful !! Now, I've tried to understand why I feel that way and others seem to really like it. All I can conclude is that mine was an early 9mm pole version, plus there may have been too much fabric on the back end. However, you mentioned all my complaints. I'd wake up with my feet wet, or pillows wet. In rain, the ventilation was dreadful. The vestibule door design was crap as the top couldn't be dropped and the footprint was always wet. After rain, or heavy condensation, the inner was sodden and waiting for it to dry was a pain. Dreadful tent, imo, others opinion may vary.
7 wet towels in a single skin tent ? Not for me. Good testing though Tom. 🙂
You could have played skittles in there Tom. Great review. "Windy enough" love it.
Hey Dave thank you... A bit long for the back garden so I had to hump it up the hills twice and carry the drone too ha ha. There was a decent wind so good for the test. Didn't want to take or carry someone else's tent onto a summit in wind like this... ATB Tom
Great job bud! Sounds like a GT is right up your street!
Hi Stuart, thank you again for the comment and support.. I hare you guys were out last night and it was awesome....Honestly not sure this is for me as just to heavy and a bit tricky to pitch in high winds on your own... Hope you have another trip planned soon too... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I didn’t make it out unfortunately! Was just AMC and his wee lad 👍🏻. I’m hoping for this Friday if all goes to plan. I love the idea of the GTs would just be concerned about getting a big enough pitch on the tops. Definitely a cracking bit of kit nonetheless 👍🏻👍🏻
Very nice review Tom. I enjoy the Kaitum 2 GT, but I wanted to hear your thoughts first. Though I've had many Hilleberg's, I've never had a Kaitum but for me the Kaitum series is Hilleberg's best all around. The Kaitum 2GT is the worst of the best in my opinion, due to a heavy weight, it requiring a long flat pitching area, and it providing excessive vestibule space and a narrow sleeping area. It's still impressive but I generally lean towards a standard Kaitum 3 for 2 people comfortably in all 4 seasons, or a 3GT if on a deep winter trip or with dogs. The biggest flaw with the Kaitum in my eyes is the lack of mosquito nets on the vents, this is a major flaw anywhere with insects and it requires the weight penalty of a Keron to fix it. Lastly, it's so expensive for such a narrow tent, that economically and for the minimal weight penalty the Kaitum 3 just seems to remedy things. It's certainly not underrated over here, it's popular as hell (the Kaitum series). Great video as ever.
Hey Green Panda, I really appreciate this feedback.. One of the first things I noticed was the lack of a mosquito netting on the vents as my Nammatj 2 has them.. Maybe its a Black Label thing.... don't actually know the answer... Great to hear of the Kaitums popularity but not too many videos on RUclips.... With the long footprint this tent is heavy and you absolutely need to be sure that is is for you... In the 2 its out of proportion for sure being so long... The length too for me is a bit excessive so I meant to suggest some improvements but ended up missing that one but you have done it for me thank you..If Hilleberg made a compact version 20 cm shorter then that would help..... ATB and loved your thoughts here... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks Tom. I was confident we were on the same page. Unfortunately Hilleberg are not really keen on modifying their tent designs so the advantages/disadvantages force you in to other models. Yes it's a black label thing but it really doesn't need to be I don't feel, and given the Kaitum is lighter and less stable than it's sibling Keron, with arguably more summer focus, you'd think mosquito nets would be more justifiable there than a Keron, or at least equally so. Bearing in mind you can't hardly prevent bugs with the Helags outer tent design. It's a minor point but it could mean the difference between a couple of midges or a swarm in your vestibule. I'd highly recommend a straight Kaitum 3, even 3 big tall people can fit at a push, and if it's without winter gear or dogs there's plenty of room. Another annoying thing with a Kaitum is that you can't simply bolster the tent to 10mm poles, but you can always double pole so I suppose it's not really the end of the world. I wish I'd started my hilleberg journey with either a Kaitum 2 or 3!
@@greenpanda7121 Good info, I hadn't noticed the lack of mosquito netting on the vents, but I had checked for 10mm pole availability. Sad I now spell Kailua as KERON ! 🙂
@@greenpanda7121 10 mm poles are available for the Kaitum 3 ( and 4 ). The only tunnel tent models you can’t get it for is the Kaitum 2, Nallo 2 and Anjan 2, which is sad. Double pole is an option, but is heavier than a set of 10 mm poles. I have a Kaitum 2. Agree with you regarding the lack of mosquito net in the vents. I would not believe it will be a dramatic weight difference to add. But it’s a Black Label thing.
@@sveinottoaar2543 great info thanks, my mistake about the 10mm for the kaitum 3. I haven't looked correctly then. Shame they aren't available for the Kaitum 2, great tent, and I really like the 10mm poles myself. I think Hilleberg is a company that refuses to change design, even in some cases where it would be a clear improvement, to simply move sales from one model to another. The lack of mosquito nets in Kaitum, given the weight difference would be nearly zero, whilst the jump to a Keron in weight is huge, is a good example of this. Additional pockets in the Allak 2 is another. Thanks for the helpful comment!
Wow - such luxury! Great to see what’s out there…you must be having sleepless nights Tom pining for this tent! Amazing space but I’d need to be in Sherpa or a strong man zone to carry that weight. I’m out tonight for a maiden trip in my new little Akto - totally influenced by you! 😉 Another Hilleberg disciple has been found 🤩
Wow going up in the world
@@northumberlandmountainhopper 🫢😇
Hi Miriam, thank you for watching and the positive feedback.. Yeah I carried this beast and my drone on two occasions and managed no probs but for me not worth the extra space and weight penalty.. Out last night in the Lanshan and some difference and a palace inside too space wise... Really hope that you are happy with your AKTO as its one of my favourites. I was going to pack it last night but then the Lanshan arrived and a quick pitch in the garden to check it and I took it instead. ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 a very happy Akto owner after 1 night anyway - I think me and the tent will get on very well 😎
Another fantastic review Tom. I’d happily live in a tent that size. It looks more comfortable than my house😂 Brilliant bit of kit as is the Nammatj. At 3.8 kg it’s actually not bad considering the strength and volume. A full geodesic weighs more than that and is a lot smaller.
Hi Jamie, how are you and the Nammatj getting on? Really appreciate your positive feedback... Yeah I don't really think the geodesics are worth the weight penalty over tunnel tents anymore... Would prefer a Keron 3 to a Tarra for sure.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I agree. I think tunnel tents are the perfect compromise between weight and strength. Pitched correctly they are immensely strong. The Nammatj is absolutely fantastic 👍 Good to see you ended up getting yourself another. Enjoy 👍
Brilliant video as always. The GT over standard is a huge question. It really comes down to where you camp. The length of the GT makes for huge restrictions but it is a cracking tent. Personally im not a fan of tunnel tents but they have their merits. cheers
Hi Alan, You hit the nail on the head with that one... Your wording is excellent and I should have put it like that in my video.. Absolutely agree 100 percent regarding its where you camp... But after many years of Geodesic only I am now in love with tunnels... Maybe someday you will be too ha ha.. Thank you and good to hear your comments... ATB Tom
Great review 👍🏼
Hey thank you. best wishes Tom
Hey Tom. Still been doing research and narrowed things down to the Kaitum 2 vs Rogen. Wondering if you've been able to check out the Rogen, especially the living space vs Kaitum. Do you think the Kaitum 2 would have enough room for 2 backpackers or would it be too tight? It's tough balancing weight vs strength and internal space. I'd be open to other options, of course if you think another tent may provide better living space and deliver a similar quality structure for my needs listed above. Was considering the Access 2 but have ruled that out. Thanks a ton bro! Hope youre doing well
Hey, great to hear your thoughts on a new tent..The Rogen is good space wise but probably not actually as roomy as the Kaitum which has more room and internal volume than most Hilleberg 2 person tents... The Kaitum also has two vestibules allowing you to orientate the tent always having one vestibule completely sheltered.. Its a good bit stronger than the Rogen too... The Nammatj 2 or 3 is another option at a similar weight but not as long in the real world due to the slop at the rear... Hope this helps and any further thoughts just ask... best wishes Tom
Yes to the vertical doors, for head and foot space, not having the condensation soak the end of your quilt, or sleeping bag. This is what I like about my Tarra, and is why I am going to add the Kaitum, and or Helags to my collection.
Hi Mark, you are so right vertical doors make a massive difference to the real world length... The inner length here in the Kaitum is insane... best wishes and I really hope you get one... Tom
@markofwisconsin Hey Mark I see you have a Tarra. I’m thinking about a Tarra but obs put off by its 4.3kg. Just wondered how you get on with it and whether you find the weight worth the extra effort? Cheers, Peter
You may want to consider that the length of the kaitum is very long. I had a kaitum 2 for a short time and there are camp space requirements that a kaitum + guylines are too big for. I also have the tarra and depending where you go, also had the same issue. Hilleberg mentioned they don’t recommend taking the kaitum up the mountain.
Ultimately i went with the nammatj and let go of the kaitum.
Hi Harrison, thank you for your feedback especially as a Kaitum and Nammatj owner.. It sure is long and not for taking into terrain that you don't know and try to find a camp spot.... . On the two occasions that I used it I managed ok so must have been lucky enough... ATB Tom
It would be perfect for 2 people + dog. 2 vestibules means you can have wet kit in one and the dog's sleeping area in another
You are right, even a great big dog..... Twin vestibule tents are very versatile... Thank you for your comments... Tom
Cheers great info, something I wouldn't have thought of getting, but now?
Hi Marty, just get a Kaitum 2... This is a monster.... Tom
Thanks!
Hey Kevin, I hope that you are well and thank you so much... ATB Tom
Hi, nice review and fun to watch.
Had to watch this in a hurry so I might have missed it but do you know that both vestibules can be opened and stowed away to make awesome porches? Absolutely a deal maker when camping with decent weather and a view.
Another thing, it is perfectly possible to sleep crosswise with four adults in the 4gt.
Keep making these reviews, awesome work!
Hey Ivor thank you for watching and commenting on the video.. As I only borrowed this tent I am unsure regarding the vestibule stowing away.. I did previously review a 4 person Saitaris and you could definitely lay across it. I had a look at the dimensions from the Hilleberg website and they are similar so I am sure that would work.. You can have a look at that video and it might help . All the very best Tom
Kaitum is a great tent. 3 pole design is much Superior to 2 poles. I think it's one of hillebergs most versatile options. Imagine the kaitum 2 (not gt) is basically same weight as a black label Soulo?
Hey, my camping friend has a Kaitum 2 and it really is a fantastic tent.. I might even buy one at some point in the near future.... All the very best wishes Tom
Hello Tom, you have very good videos, I wanted to ask for your recommendations with a lippie granites 3 tent, I would like to know what you think about that tent, greetings from Chile
Hi thank you for your comments. I have searched for this tent but cant find it.... Could you send me a link and what type of conditions do you want to use the tent for...Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Hello Tom, youtube does not allow me to send the link, but I sent it to instagram,
@@maranf2287 yes yes
Any chance you could get hold of the Anjan 2 or 3 person to review? Would be interesting to hear your thoughts before I pull the trigger
Hi Craig, I need to get someone to offer them to me and Hilleberg wont sponsor any tents for reviews... If someone offers I will be on it for sure... ATB Tom
Thanks for this video Tom, you’re very honest, which is why I watch them. I have a question, do the vestibule vents have a mesh cover in them? Cheers
There is only solid fabric on the vents which run at the sloping angle of the vestibule. You can unzip these. There is no mesh. Solid open. Solid closed…I hope this helps... ATB Tom
Very nice tent review, Tom. It’s a beast isn’t it? Massive amount of functional vestibule space and good living area too. As you say, the vertical walls gives it a good amount of usable space, especially if you’re a bit taller. I was going to ask you about a footprint, however I see you had one in the backyard pitch. Due to damp or wet ground and slightly overgrown terrain, I really like a footprint. So when are you getting a GT? 😀
Hi Barry thank you for your feedback... Yes this sure is a beast but good volume and strength for the weight. If you want big vestibule then no need for half measures so Hilliberg have done it right... For me the footprint size here just makes it too heavy... No GT for me as all my trips I am hauling it by myself ha ha. ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 yeah that’s always the compromise - comfort vs weight. 😀
I went for the Kaitum 2 last year as I thought the GT version was too long and might restrict where I could pitch it. The GT was a bit heavier too. I also own a Nallo 2 that I bought a couple of decades ago. They are great tents!
Hi Stuart, I totally agree about the length, weight and footprint of the GT model here.. My friend has the 2 and it really is a fantastic tent. I have considered the Nallo 2 on many occasions but another tent has just pipped it to the post regarding my particular camping requirements... Great to hear that you got two fantastic tents... All the very best Tom
Another great review Tom 👏 the GTs look awesome but I would be worried about its footprint. Did you struggle finding a nice flat area when you were up in the Mournes? Adam
Hi Adam, great to see you out last night... I used it twice with no issues at all but I knew where I was going ha ha.. Not a tent to be in the mountains looking for a suitable pitch.... For me a lot of wasted space but some people it will definitely suit.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Likewise Tom, we got the weather for it anyway 👍 Yes, that would be my concern as well. It would only be suitable for certain summits but nothing a good bit of planning can't sort 👍 the Kaitum looks a dark horse, I hadn't looked into it in ant detail but I like the look of it now 👍
Nearly bought that. But went for the saitaris 👍
Hi Michael, better choice I think... This one is a bit odd in GT form but they must sell ok or else Hilleberg wouldn't make them.... ATB Tom
I have a Kaitum 2gt an a Jannu and a Akto, but I’m thinking about getting a Hilleberg Rogen 2, is that a tent that you would consider doing a review on? I’m watching from Sweden
I think you have a great content
Hey great to hear from you and your tent collection...Tom be honest I don't think I will be reviewing any Hilleberg tents for a while.. Not in my plans.. Best wishes Tom
Hey Tom. I am really interested in the Kaitum2. I am 6'2, 200lbs and my hiking buddy is similar in size. I'd be using it for regular backpacking here in Colorado in and above treeline, but the weather can change quickly and get really nasty with rain, thunderstorms, hail and snow. That happened last week to me in July! Anyways I'm looking for a solid tent, roomy enough for the two of us and not cramped. Considering the Kaitum3 but wondering if that is too much tent and unnecessary. Love your reviews as they are honest and thorough. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Happy travels!
Hi thank you for watching and great to hear your feedback.. Only 300g between the 2 and 3 so not much weight for the extra space.. But once you go to the larger models in any tent with longer poles and more fabric I feel that you loose some strength and weather resistance due to the extra tent volume... the 9mm poles that support the Kaitums are ok in the 2 but once you go to the 3 then I personally it wouldn't be for me.. But its just whether you favour weather resistance or internal space.. best wishes Tom
Excellent review. Would you say this particular tent is a true 2 person tent? Debating between the 2 & the 3.
Yes based on the other two person tents it's definitely a good two person tent space wise.. Definitely more room than a Nallo 2 for example.. The 3 person version won't be that much heavier though especially when the weight is divided... It will have a big footprint though as it will be wide as well as very long... The 2 here will be more versatile as you could use it on your own and with 2 persons.. Always pros and cons and never easy to decide.. I hope that helps.. best wishes Tom
Thanks Tom for the in-depth response. You have a new Subscriber. Cheers!
Hello, i am thinking about purchasing this tent. All in all, would you take this tent on a proper winter trip and not worry if It collapse? I was thinking about the Keron too, however, Katium seems to be better option for backpacking...
Yes it's very strong for winds up to 50 mph if properly pitched.. It's always a compromise between weight and strength and the Kaitum does this very well.. best wishes Tom
I just bought a Kaitum 2. Not arrived yet. My use is canoe trips, so weight and pack size are not so pressing for me. Given that, I expect the Kaitum 2 will serve me a little better than my Nammatj 2 in somewhat protected areas where it will be used. My Keron 3 or the Nammatj 2 are my weapons of choice for any canoe trips in the arctic regions where the wind can sometimes be pretty brutal. I don't think I would take a Kaitum up there.
Hi the Kaitum is a great all rounder and has an amazing space to weight ratio.. For lesser exposed or harsh conditions it's a great choice.... Best wishes Tom
with a sewn in footprint for whole outer skin..yes please
You are right just so much space and practicality.... best wishes and thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... Tom
The dad sleeping in the vestibule was probably doing his best to take care of his wife and kids because he feels the cold less than they do, so he was sleeping in the colder part of the tent.
Yes you are right... Thats the sort of things dads do.... Thank you for your thoughts and comment.... All The Very Best.. Tom
Hi Tom, another nice test, great tent, great space and strength, if you can afford one why not, it’s just the weight,
Is this better for car camping or expedition use I wonder.
Ps tried the Nordisk Svalbard, had to send it back as my LW exped mat did not fit as it narrowed so much, so still looking for a strong one man tent with some space !
Cheers Adrian
Keep em coming
Hi Adrian, that's a real pity... I think I messaged you earlier with that recommendation ha ha.. Hard to keep track of all my comments.... I think I mentioned the Fjalraven Abisko lite two it should fit in that.... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 yes Tom, my only worry is the Abisko 2 would not take the wind, Cheviots are brutal!
@@northumberlandmountainhopper you can double pole it.. 🤣
I have the Nammatj 2 GT and I always try to take it for a variety of reasons but mainly that vestibule. Kinda ruins you for other tents.
Yes I get it after using this one.. It's alamos like having two tents.... Tom
Arcteryx Acurux?
Yr right ha ha you know your kit.. 😂😂
@@TOMHEANEY100 what are they?
@@memphisreines yes yes the Arteryx acrux arcteryx.com/gb/en/shop/mens/acrux-tr-gtx-boot. An older version of these...
@@TOMHEANEY100 nice..
@@TOMHEANEY100 oh.. you meant i was right, sorry i miss read your reply.
Another great review but I'm going to have to stop watching them your going to bankrupt me lol I'm all tented up with my kuiu's but now I'm wanting a niak and a jannu lol think I need to win the lottery 🤣
Hi Craig, thank you for commenting and watching many of my videos... My next tent review will be on the 3 FUL Lanshan 2 pro and its very budget friendly... Who knows I may eventually go off the Hilleberg's due to the cost.... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I'm sure I'll watch it but it's not my type of tent tbh I always prefer to carry a little extra weight for the strength and security a tent with decent poles gives I understand some are on a budget and or looking for lightweight but it's not for me
Thanks for this Tom, really enjoyed watching this film! Really well made, and very informative! I was shocked at how light this tent was, for its size. From memory, is the vestibule in this tent bigger than the Saitaris? I really like the idea of sleeping in the vestibule.
Just checked. Both vestibules are 180cm.
HI Phil, You beat me to it.... The vestibule here seems much bigger as you kind of view it in proportion to tent size if that makes sense. Width wise a bit difference though... ATB Tom
giant termite larva
Fair enough but not really adding information or experience that others can make use of.... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Coincidentally, "not really adding information or experience that others can make use of" is a perfectly accurate description of 99.99% of RUclips. hahaha
@@larsthorwald3338 we will leave it at that.. At least you have a sense of humour ATB
Tom, I’ll have to see the full review later. Sorry. Right now, I’m over the moon with the news of the Russian Army’s collapse and the ongoing liberation of occupied Ukrainian territories. Beyond my wildest expectations. Sorry, I’m so happy!
Now I’ve managed to calm down, this is the usual excellent review I’ve come to expect. The GT aspect is something I have been curious about and will consider a GT model in the future. I thought it a humorous GT benefit where the vestibule becomes a separate emergency sleeping space after campers have a falling out.😂
Tom, have you had to double pole a GT tent and if so, was it worth it? Or, could one get by with a single pole?
Thank you, Tom!
Hi Harry, I hope that you are well.. Great to hear your feedback once again....Awesome to hear you enjoyed my SOH.... Double poling a GT tent fine but so many poles I think you would need to double pole at least two poles.. The poles are also different lengths which makes it more complicated. With the Nammatj poles all the same then any extra pole can go anywhere and they can also be 9mm which is not too much extra to carry... ATB Tom
Russia is winning you twat
Sorry to hear about the Ukrainian army collapse you should stop listening to Fake news better luck next time! Ps keep wearing your mask 6foot apart 40 jabs later.. your one of them ain't you... ps Don't bring politics into a tent review.. lessons learnt.
Well .... why do you always say twice 'really really'? Once is convincing really well. 🙂
Hey Onno, wait to you hear how many times I say it in my next video.... ATB Great to hear for you and thank you for watching.... Tom Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Just a bid teasing. 🙂
@@TOMHEANEY100 But what is ATB?
@@onnonugteren2935 sorry it's all the best..
@@TOMHEANEY100 :-) I think abbreviations are killing one's sayings, tiring the reader of listener. Use it as less as possible. My general opinion and atb is a great example to me being a foreigner. :-) greetings again!