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Adjusting A Miter Saw For Accurate Cuts
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2016
- Now that I've got the saw installed in the new cabinet, I go through the procedure I use for setting it up for accurate cuts.
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Thanks again John. Forty years ago I wanted to become a carpenter. Instead I went to school, and wrote software until recently. All the while telling myself I’d probably have become a good carpenter by NOW.
I’m retired NOW with 40 years of catching up to do, I’ll be 100+ . I don’t care, I’m loving every minute.
Your videos are tremendously helpful. I appreciate your time, effort and generosity. TY.
Love to hear you have the opportunity to catch up on your passion man..it truly makes me happy to hear that
Now that I've got the saw installed in the new cabinet, I go through the procedure I use for setting it up for accurate cuts.
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How to adjust a combination square the easy way:
ruclips.net/video/cxrCZd7r6qE/видео.html
The five cut method:
www.ibuildit.ca/featured-video-projects/fvp0063.html
Check out part 3 of the miter station build here:
ruclips.net/video/kXCfKwklHoc/видео.html
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ya ur the best
Thanks for this video. I recently acquired this exact model used. If the first item you checked, the vertical of the blade to the bed, how would you adjust the saw if that value was not 90 degrees?
Very helpful. Great video. I have a Hitachi 12 inch miter saw and it has been out of alignment since I don’t know win. I’ve had it for 20 years and was ready to just go buy a new one. I had no idea that you could adjust it. It seemed to make sense to me that you could but I never looked into it. Thank the Lord for RUclips. Now I will go and try to adjust it.
I just got my first miter saw yesterday. Right now I am watching your videos to learn how to operate it. Thanks for making these videos.
Thanks John. I've been having trouble with the cuts with my saw, and didn't know why. I put a speed square on it, and lo and behold the saw was out of square. When I checked the 45 after pulling the saw back the bolt was nowhere near where it should have been. I am so glad you mentioned that because I would not have checked it. So, thank you so much, you saved my life(so to speak).
Awesome post, sir! You saved me money and time setting up a humble home shop. I thought I'd just bought a lemon, a Hitachi C10FCE2 . It was never right in the horizontal plane, fence to blade. I had bypassed the factory detents the entire time I've owned it (5+ years). I ran it square, but never on the factory detents. I always ensured it was squared manually, and bypassing the factory settings. It was on my list to replace as soon as I could. I wasn't aware it was adjustable in that plane. Thanks a bunch!
My wife bought me a miter saw for Christmas one year. Right out of the box it worked perfectly. After about a year, I decided to check it for square. Low and behold, it was out of square though I was very careful with the machine. So, I adjusted it until it matched my machinist square perfectly. I did a few projects and not one turned out right. To make a long story short, this so-called machinist square was off by a few degrees. after it went flying across the garage, I got out my tri-square, readjusted everything and now it's perfect once again. Moral of the story: Check your squares regularly!
I bought that saw last year after watching your videos. It has worked great for me so far. These tips should make it even better. thanks!
John, great video as always and I really like the fact that you jump right in without an into, not needed.
I too have had the same saw for many years. Its been dead on since the day I bought it. Only complaint I've ever had until I built a dust enclosure was the massive amounts of sawdust it created and sent everywhere, even with a shopvac attached. Great video. Always love the ones that shows us how to do it better.
thanks for the tips, after 18 years my saw has gotten out of whack, and now I can get it back to making good cuts again! and thanks for the shop rag trick to hold the blade protector open.
Very honest and easy to understand. Bought my first saw today and it took hours off my day. Absolutely brilliant tool.
John, thanks for the tutorial even though the video is 3 years old it is still adding value. Have the same saw and it is now perfectly aligned, thanks again!
John, thanks for comments about the saw I recently bought that model and so far am enjoying it.
Learned more about my miter saw than I have in the 20 years I've owned mine. I will tune it up tomorrow. Nicely done.
That is one beast of a saw. I can see why you made a station for it. I've got an old 12" Craftsman that I've had for almost 25 years which is still going strong. I'm not using it everyday but it still holds its settings. Never thought about the five cut method. May have to try that next weekend and hope my opinion of the saw stays the same. 8-)
Thanks for showing us this method. Its logical,
easy to do and fool proof.
Very useful stuff and explanation, today I bought me a miter saw Metabo KS216M lasercut, new for €99 euro. I don't need an expensive one just for using it few times in a year or so.Happy to know how to get it to get the accurate cutting!
I don't know how people go without a miter saw. Mine is a 12" craftsman (non-slide) compound, and I love it. I now use an adaptation of that zero-clear backstop/flat deck like the one you made a video about. It pops off pretty easily for angles, but it's also the reason I haven't fine tuned my saw recently. Most used (power) tool in my garage.
Excellent presentation. No rambling like some, straight to the point and easy to understand. Well done and thanks
Nice John. I had no idea of how to do it. And I'd never thought of the 5 cut method on a miter saw. Not that it's needed if your video instructions here are followed. Thanks.
Totally different shop now. I appreciate you sir. Thank you for sharing your skills knowledge and experience
Just bought my dream miter saw, this exercise will be perfect when I get to setting it up. Thanks!
Hi John
Very informative video. If you loosen the three screws on each green inset plate, push the inserts inward until they are flush, make a sliding plunge cut, you will have a zero clearance inset plate.
Thanks for your time
I have a similar saw, couldn't get the left fence to square up. This happened before. Had to remove both fences and plastic saw guides to get at the main pivot bolt. Unscrewed that and gently lifted saw off platform. The whole area down there was fill of sawdust. Cleaned it all up and put it back together. (don't overtighten pivot bolt) Works great now.
Just goes to show that you get what you pay for most of the time. I bought a bargain miter saw that I paid way too much for because I knew nothing about miter saws when I bought it, but knew I needed one to do virtually anything in woodworking. Frustration brought me here. I wish I knew then what I know now! Thanks for sharing this information. With any luck my bargain saw will actually BE tunable! If not, I guess I'll eat it as an expensive lesson. Cheers!
I am very glad you made this video. I have the same saw, I think we've had ours about the same amount of time (I bought mine in 2010) and for the most part I've been happy with it, but I have noticed things not quite lining up when I'm crosscutting a wide piece, and I've just sort of lived with it for a while, but now I realize that it is possible (and pretty easy, actually) to adjust this thing to something a lot closer to perfection than I've seen with it.
Just awesome! the way you test the cut by flipping the cut piece and put it against the same timber was fantastic 😍
Hitachi is one of those brands I never know what to make of because they've got their hands in so many industries. I've only ever given this chop saw consideration because I knew you were happy with yours. Yesterday, I decided I'll have to get one to be able to complete my workbench. Between this video and the fact that the saw was $50 less than the next option, it was the obvious choice.
...I guess that's a long-winded way of saying thanks!
Great video. I've been using a 12" Dewalt (not a slider) for many years and have never had to make an adjustment. These saws are amazingly accurate if you treat them right.
This is without a doubt the best instructional video I have every watched. Thank you for making this so easy to follow.
haha, Nice dig at Wandel there at the end. I've had my 15" Hitachi for 27 years and have never had any problem with inaccuracy.
Saw play? Experience and skill boys and girls.... Experience and skill! What the man said. Brilliant. Thanks much
Even 5 years later, this video is so helpful & easy to follow. I was going nuts aligning my 45 degree angles for artwork frames with the saw bowing & had limited knowledge in to check/fix it. I even made a sacrificial fence (which was a waste). I also wonder if a 60 tooth saw blade would be better than a 40 when cutting poplar. Will try this first. Thanks!
Thanks for the set up tips. I just went out and bought the same saw, it was time for an upgrade and the saw was on sale. Can't beat that combination
GREAT video John Many Many tips that anyone who has a miter saw can use to give it a tune up
Thanks
great and timely video, dragging my Bosch GCM12 out of hibernation for a project this week. the flip over is a great tip!
I've got the baby brother of your saw, the Hitachi C 7RSH it too is a SCMS with the rails on the side not the back so you can put it right against the wall. Love the Hitachi SCMSs.
Great video, very useful, thanks!
Thanks so much for this John. I have a Maktec MT230 (non-sliding) which has a long single backing plate with 4 bolts. I had no idea they were adjustable until you demonstrated that. As you guessed, I didn't read the Manual! Probably I would have tried looking for an adjustment thingie underneath the round table bit that moves the angles, so you have saved me a lot of strife.
I like that Hitachi saw a lot for its ability to stay compact, for a 12 incher. I have a Dewalt DWS782 that I like very much but it's really long from front to back, especially in my small shop.
Thanks John. I now know why I've not been able to line up my mites to look good and tight. I did try to aline my saw but could never get it very precise. I'll certainly give this a try!
If you have one on hand, use fine finish/ultra fine finish blades when calibrating your saw with wood cuts. They not only cut the wood but sand the cut edge as well and pieces fit together much tighter than cuts with a general purpose blade. I've noticed some plywood or lumber is worse than others about splintering on the edges of the cut edge. Splinters keep your cuts from sealing tight if they're left so either lightly sand them off or use a fine finish blade to keep you from getting them in the first place.
Great information thank you. Also very good point about the movement of the fence after securing the bolts this is something often overlooked
Well done ....
I like your step by step approach ...
Thank you ...
Great video, thanks.
The Hitachi design of the handle is quite clever, all the forces of your arm are in line with the blade. With a lot of saws the handle is on the side and you have to push against a second switch on the side of the handle too which doesn't help with making a smooth up and down motion.
Thanks for this. I have an 8 year old Mastercraft sliding compound, and "0" is no longer "0"! I was debating buying a new saw - never even crossed my mind that it could just be an adjustment on the saw! (seems obvious now though!)
I will give adjusting it a shot! Might save me $500+!
Always wanted to know how to set a miter saw now I know cheers. As always extremely informative. Thanks.
thanks. I have the same saw. didn't think of cutting a piece and flipping it to check for square.
Oooh, that's fightin talk. Can't wait to see Matthias's reply ;)
Super helpful buddy! I was having the same problems with mine and wasn't sure how to go about adjusting it. Thanks for the help!
The sound quality is so much better compared to the combination square adjustment video. Respect for all your video quality improvements (Waiting for 4K/UHD ;-)
The information on squaring up a chop saw was helpful, thanks John.
Thanks for the info. Just upgraded to this saw today and this will come in handy.
The 122 people who dislike this video must be Framers! Great video it’s fabulous and helped me tremendously.. I have the same saw and it was off and out of square by an 1/8th of an inch out of the box.. I used these steps and it’s fabulous
Excellent video John. I was lucky finding it. Great oldie tutorial. Please keep on teaching us.
There are very few things if any that are as comforting as a miter saw set up this accurately :)
Great demo. Very clear. Many thanks.
Thanks for publishing such a helpful video. Your instruction is so clear and accurate. Really top quality. Thank you!
Thank you!!! Im new to miter saws, just bought my first one a year ago. Noticed it wasn't making straight cuts. Thought i was going to have to buy another.
Nice walk through, I'm sure there are a few people this will help.
Hi great video,i got the 10" and i used a digital ruler t get a auucrate 90 deg.....worked great.
Always helpful to watch your videos.
Thanks John.
good stuff john..i remember aligning the fence on my rigid along with my evolution saw. I was amazed how outta line they both were outta the box
Thanks John, have the same saw, will be doing this later today.
I always enjoy your videos.....and the comments that people leave you....awesome two thumbs up!
I'm also fan of mitre saws and find the better quality models can be extremely accurate, when used correctly. Saying that, I used to own a 12in Bosch saw that would badly flex from side to side and with little effort (it was second hand). I also find them to be safer than radial arm saws - when you let go of the handle, the spring causes the blade to retract and the guard slides in to place. A radial arm saw is always running towards you and you don't have the choice to cut against the blade's rotation.
Thanks for the detailed walkthrough on tuning your saw.
Thanks Olly. I completely agree on the radial arm saw being more dangerous to use.
More excellently produced tips. Thanks pal.
thanks for the information John.I have the same saw.You really helped me out.My cuts are perfect now.
This was really helpful
Mr. John
thank you very much
Very helpful, thank you for posting.
Good information. I will tune up my miter saw. I think this would work for my radial arm saw also.
Great video John, I found it very informative. I know what I will be doing tomorrow.
Great video. One of the best most understandable explanations of how to set up the saw that I've seen....
I have the same saw and have had two issues.
1) The brake doesn't always work. The switch in the trigger is probably bad, but this shouldn't happen on a 1 year old saw.
2) I spent a decent amount of time adjusting it for perfect accuracy. One thing I notice is that there is still some deflection on the cut. Almost like the cut is hollowed in the middle. I still have the stock blade, so that might have something to do with it. I intend to get a full kerf replacement eventually.
Very nice demonstration John.
Great vid! Really am still so impressed with the logo'd back board! Nice work. I like both you and Matthias and appreciate the different approaches and perspective you guys bring to your work.
FWIW, I have the lower level hitachi miter saw (it doesn't have the sliding feature) and I've been very happy with its accuracy. I think a lot of people have outdated opinions about miter saws. But what do I know!? 🤓
I agree :)
Thanks mate, you solved my problem. Good job. Cheers.
Thanks John! 🤙
John Heisz, This video was interesting, I just got my first miter cut watched a couple of other videos before yours, and your was easy and easier to follow a long. Thanks
I say! In 1957, when you were just 23 years old, did you used to sing a song called "Tammy"?
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Brilliant! I will be using these tip when I relocate my mitre saw. It's a cheapie compound saw but surprisingly accurate out of the box and more than I need so it'll do me well. I'm not going to build a station, just tune the saw to be as good as I can get.
Thanks, that's a very logical and simple test. Good on ya.
I purchased this identical saw at Lowe's about 2012 for a ridiculously low $299 and have been extremely happy until today. The miter angle has gone slightly out of perpendicular. I assumed that this could be adjusted for with the little knob at the front of the saw next to the handle, however when I tried to use this per the manual it unscrewed and the outer nut fell off. So off to youtube I go to see what I'm doing wrong. Your vid just made my day. All is well with the universe and the new headboard for the guestroom should be done soon. Thank you, Herr Heisz.
Incidentally, are you aware that the "sz", Ess Zet in German, can be replaced with "ß" ? Also known as a "sharfes s". The z has sharp corners, you see, just like the edges of the wood you cut.
I have a Hitachi that is just ever so slightly out of square. Much less than what you showed on your first cut. Never really cared much as the cuts were still within tolerance. However, after watching this video, my excuse for not doing anything about it is out the window. Easy fix. Thanks.
An excellent set of saws, a good accurate cuts. Like!
Another great video from you John!!
nice to see this done on MY saw. *thanks*
I was needing this! thanks a lot!
Great video. You make it look so easy!
Thanks I knocked my fence out of square and broke my gard cutting stair shims. I need to do this. Thanks.
Excellent tutorial. Thank you
I have then same saw and love it , just recently set mine up in a similar way
Thx for the info didn't realise the fence moved.... miss the Canadian accent - and I see you have one of those Canadian 'flick' screwdrivers they are fabulous can't get them in the US. Thx again ~zip
Thanks John i have the exact saw in my shop. so this was prefect help. I noticed last week the cuts wee looking a tiny bit wonky. Have used the saw mostly for rough Construction. Now retired I started making some cabinets and the wonkiness is not acceptable. Could you show where the vertical adjustment screw is on this saw. You mentioned it but didn't show where that was. Since I have this exact saw it will be very helpful. Thanks again Rich - Salem, OR
I love my miter saw, never understood the hate some people have for these tools.
i agree, they can be very accurate if set up right, very quick and repetative cuts can be done, and they are super versatile, you can make anything from half lap joints to circles, even small amount of ripping, they are just so usefull esspecially the sliding ones, pretty fun too i guess
African Cichlids I don’t know what you have used but as a joiner by dewalt DW708 is more that accurate enough for joinery work. That’s only ever been adjusted once in the 15-16uears I’ve had it.
Did you not watch the video which outlined how to make them accurate? Just like any tool you want to have precision results from, they must be tuned slightly to ensure accuracy... heck I even tune/true up my skilsaw for framing applications. Even a powermatic table saw straight out of the box and every so often requires some truing/tuning to maintain accuracy otherwise it is like a high end rifle with poorly adjusted sights = inaccurate.
@@africancichlids3011 I’m not sure what field or country you’re referring to, but at least in US construction, the miter saw is a primarily finish and trim carpentry tool. It can be used for framing certainly, but pretty much every single finish carpenter you meet here is going to have a nice miter saw. I don’t even know what else you would use honestly.
good motivation for readjusting my sliding miter saw... ;)
Great tips John, thanks...
Thanks. This is exactly what I needed.
Great video, man! Very informative and easy to follow. Thank you very much!
Another great, informative vid, John. Thanks.