So glad the Longman is bringing people together. Honestly reaching Theory's large audience and promoting good writing might eventually effect some change.
funny about the ppl bitching to Theory about Mooler and he gives 0 shits what they gotta say. Lol Welcome to the Dark Side, Theory. here is your Cookie
Every time I'm reminded about that show, all I can think of is the 1995 Amiga game "Skeleton Krew" Which would probably turn out to be a more entertaining show for all I know
The Mauler/Efap Cycle: Mauler and/or EFAP criticizes someone or their video, then invites them on to discuss said criticisms, then surprisingly after talking, the person being criticized has such a fun and productive talk with Mauler, that they not only take the criticisms to heart, but wish to join in friendship and start to join Mauler on streams. Its a beautiful thing!!!! Its happened now with Fringy, JayXi, Nutso, (about 3 others i cant remember their channel names but they are now regulers on EFAP), and now Starwars Theory!!
Mauler, you might not know this, but you're on your 18th redemption arc. It's almost as compelling as your 7th redemption, but nothing compares to your 11th downfall.
They both have great radio voices, perfect for this conversational style of show. Reminds me of something I might have listened to on NPR 25 years ago. ‘I’m Terry Gross, and this is Fresh Air.’
Now I'm not exactly an encyclopedia of the facts around how the hell this all happened, but assuming I have it right, I'm a big lover of how the hell this all happened. Basically, SWT sniped at MauLer one time, and all of a sudden we have Star Grift Mondays where they both chill and hang out for 2 hours
SWT made some weird statements about how unfair it was that the Kenobi show budget was "peanuts" compared to Andor and She-Hulk. (Kenobi budget was smaller than the other 2, but still like 90mil, hardly peanuts). Also that Andor is a show for pretentious baguette eaters. EFAP had a segment on an episode where they dissected all that. Next thing you know Mauler is on SWT's podcast and they have surprisingly good chemistry and it's all chill. So yeah you were basically correct with your summary. SWT being bad at math started this new gem of a podcast.
@@j-starchaserTo be fair, EFAP sniped Theory, in retaliation for sniping Andor. The difference is when EFAP snipes you, they stand their ground, explain why they did it, and unironically give you the opportunity to confront them about it. Most people who do get to that point get to that awkward "Wait, you actually owned up to what you said and have a solid reason for doing so? . . . Well shit, now what?" And they end up joining the gang.
@@casualduck7398 That's some old EFAP lore. You're not likely to get that outside of the *really* early EFAP episodes. I'm pretty sure it started with MauLer in his TLJ Critique. MauLer was bringing up different film criticism channels like Jenny Nichols and talking about how some people aren't great at reviewing certain movies as opposed to others because they don't have any investment in the franchise in which to form criticisms. In this segment, he brought up how much he loved one of Wolf's videos, but I can't remember which one, but he threw in near the end that he thought his Thor: Ragnarok video was "honestly terrible", because Wolf apparently didn't like that film. Someone went to Wolf's comments and said something to the effect of "MauLer's talking shit!", causing Wolf to check out that part of MauLer's video where he was mentioned. He commented "Them's *fighting* words", and I'm not 100% on this next part, records are dusty around this time, MauLer invited Wolf to hang out on Discord and then suddenly they're just friends.
Kylo Ren getting darker and darker is a good idea but there is no way you can do that with a villain who is constantly being outplayed by the heroes. TLJ ends with him basically waving his hands in the air not even knowing what planet the good guys are on.
Dora the Explorer: "Do YOU see where the Resistance is hiding? . . . What? They're hiding on the planet right there with nothing but space around it? There they are! You FOUND them!"
And the fact theory said there's no rules to magic, especially when comparing it to the force, made me cringe. As if every story in the world uses the exact same magic system. Im loving the fact they're doing this podcast together, but its evident he still has no idea what he's talking about.
Takashi Yamazaki. No question. _Godzilla Minus One_ creator should be put in charge of Star Wars. He can direct a movie with slow character development building to perfectly-placed action setpieces that are tense as hell. He can write simple but lovable characters whom you know everything about in their first scene, but continue to surprise you right up to the climax. And he comes from VFX pedigree with a mind to push forward the medium without wasting the producers' money or the audience's time. Takashi Yamazaki. No doubt. Hiring him as THE Star Wars director would _actually_ save the franchise. He gets it.
MauLer: "Alright, you've convinced me. I will watch The Clone Wars." Theory: "Ah yeah, cool. You don't even have to watch all of it. A lot you can just skip." MauLer: "No. That isn't how this works."
It's so weird for someone that's such a huge fan of it to say "I love it, it's so good, so awesome, you'll love it! Just skip half of it." Are you trying to sell me on this thing or not? Also kinda weird that he doesn't know it's not chronological. And, I'm gonna be honest, MauLer's free to like elements in it, but I'll be disappointed if he doesn't go hard on how bad a rather large percentage of it is.
@@alexhayden219 I could see it happening, but it's a tell that the show itself is mostly shit but has a couple standout moments. So I don't recommend watching _Steven Universe_ because it's a plagiarized, morally hypocritical, unprofessional, meandering time-waste that's 90% filler focusing on annoying side characters' first-world problems. BUT, the show has a couple really good plotlines. In that case, _if I knew the person was interested and gonna watch it anyway,_ I would comb through it and give them a list of the good arcs that actually have a story to tell, and bring it out to basically 1 season's worth of content that's half-decent and watchable. The biggest difference between me and Theory is, if I have to go through all of that, _I don't call the show "good"_ Thing with MauLer is he actually _likes_ and considers necessary all of Buffy and Andor, he only says "just stick through the slow beginning to the good part" because he's seen that not everyone has the same mileage he does. But if he actually thought it was unnecessary he would tell them to skip it.
@@samwallaceart288 I can definitely see him enjoying certain episodes or arcs, overall, but I agree that I can't call the show good. I guess I see him pulling his punches throughout these discussions, already, and don't want him to when it comes to giving a serious watch of this show. Praise it where it deserves it, of course. But there's A LOT of sludge to waid through. What I can see being the most likely scenario would probably be similar to the prequels, themselves. Enjoyable, but mostly terrible. Some highs but lots and lots of deep down lows. And, it'd just be more interesting to see how Theory reacts to a serious and thorough negative criticism of much of it. Go too soft and I can see him thinking they're "mostly in agreement."
Timestamps 0:00 Intro & Intro 1:05 Approval 3:25 Star Wars News 4:18 Snyderverse (1) 5:45 Rian, Adam & Dave 8:41 The Power Of Chat 10:18 Twitch 13:00 Snyderverse (2) 19:27 Upcoming Trilogies 21:17 Favorite Movies 24:38 Jailed Actors 29:08 The Suicide Squad & The Last Of Us 37:40 Star Wars Graveyard 41:25 Weak Men: The Nick Fury Example 44:14 Strang Females: The Rey Example 48:08 SWT's Episode IX 55:05 Mauler's Episode IX 58:18 Promises & Copyright 59:35 Superchats (1) 1:00:15 What Mauler Should Watch Next? (1) 1:04:35 Superchats (2) 1:31:20 What Mauler Should Watch Next? (2) 1:33:12 Superchats (3) 1:55:00 Star War The Third Gathers: Backstroke of the West 1:57:24 Superchats (4)
"Do you sell merch?" MauLer, the answer is yes. Maybe not as much or as frequently new, but your teespring store is up and you do a yearly special - so far plush or vinyl. Such humble. Just say it's not your priority. It's one of your many differences.
Hey Mauler, got some thematically appropriate names for future episodes. A New Grift, The Grift Strikes Back, Return of the Grift, The Grift Menace, Attack of the Grift, Revenge of the Grift, The Grift Awakens, The Last Grift, Rise of the Griftwalker. There's so much media, books, games, show episodes, etc in Star Wars to pull from.
I would love to see you guys have conversation with Thor Skywalker, he’s great at this sort of “what if” conversations and has a deep knowledge of both Star Wars and marvel.
Dude imagine MauLer and HBomb were in a debate, and then Lindsay shows up unannounced in the middle after years in self-cancellation; that'd be hype AF and I genuinely wouldn't know which way it'd swing
@@ProxyDoug yeah iirc she was getting bullshit from leftists and Twitter sniped and she was just over the whole thing. Looks like she's doing something on Nebula now, though; just an hour ago something's up on her channel.
1:26:00 Edwards was never fired from Rogue One, but Gilroy was brought on to do major script revisions partway into production and helped deliver a significantly different film, while not completely changing it from what had already been shot and worked on. Regarding the Vader scene, it was basically the last thing that was shot. It wasn't the suggestion of a janitor or some other rando. It was Gareth Edwards and his editor, Jabez Olssen, working on cutting the film together. Olssen suggested that they needed a final badass scene for Vader. They discussed it, brought it to Kennedy, she greenlit it, and Edwards developed it with his team. Edwards was involved in setting the scene up, but handed the direction of the scene over so that he could appear in it (he's the guy that pulls the emergency handle to shut the doors and detach to disembark - kind of the most pivotal minor role of the whole franchise, he jokes). The director was Edwards' Second Unit Director, Simon Crane. In 2023, Freddie Prinze, Jr. revealed that it was actually directed by Dave Filoni. Very shortly later in 2023, Rogue One screenwriter Gary Whitta, Rogue One co-editor Kevin Hickman, and reporter Roberto Gonzalez all basically said (paraphrasing here) that, as usual, Freddie Prinze, Jr. doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
If I may add a bit to the Knifes Out talk, one of Columbo's shticks was that you knew who was the killer from start usually, there was maybe like one episode where they didn't di this. Rian's little reveal in the first Knives Out has been done decades ago....
Yeah Theory's point is incomplete there; the real problem is the movie keeps changing its mind how smart or stupid a character depending on what the plot needs. Colombo always starts by setting all the characters intelligence and skill levels right off the bat, and episode is watching all the characters react to the wild card who's Colombo. But in Knives Out, Benoit Ransom and homegirl are all the wild-card at different points of the story, but the only way for the story to work is that they're all _actually stupid_ when the plot needs them to not notice something cartoonishly obvious, and _actually smart_ when the plot needs them to deduce something crazy.
Columbo's great. Rian's a fool that's followed by other fools that think he's a genius. Benoit's a clown that's right about one thing: it's just dumb. Writing is hard and I'm impressed when quality of story and consistency of character lasts across a long running TV show, but the consistency of a main character should be fairly well established and understood by the writer that created or shepherded them. Rian's characters don't stay consistent scene-to-scene, let alone across a larger story or series. I view most of what Rian does as both intended parody and satire, but most good parodies still have consistent characters with established parameters. And I, personally, just don't find what he does very funny, even when it's clearly supposed to be. Part of what makes it different than Columbo is this parody element. Where Columbo can be humorous, Rian's work is intentionally a bit ridiculous. What's frustrating is that people, including professionals in the field, think it's good at being a parody, a satire, and a mystery. It's not particularly good at any of those things.And a big element in all those things not working is consistency and believability of characters. I don't think it works as satire because it also doesn't have consistency of message and the larger body often doesn't support whatever otherwise sensible message is supposed to be taken - usually spoken plainly in dialogue near the end. This all applies to his other self-written work, as well. At least, the ones I can remember. I saw his first two movies years ago and didn't fully retain them or rewatch them.
@@alexhayden219 I always go back to Hot Fuzz. If Johnson wrote it, Sgt Angel would be a big braggart movie cop who everyone laughs off as a dumb cowboy, and all throughout the movie you see him _NOT doing his paperwork_ "I'm all about the action, let the bureaucrats handle the rest", and half the plot would rely on Angel being fucking stupid and missing obvious clues. But then midway through the movie we suddenly find out Angel's secretly a nerdy supergenius with a photographic memory, and all that time he was pushing paperwork and research away, it was because _he ALREADY KNEW EVERYTHING._ And the second half of the plot hinges on him being absurdly intelligent and assaulting guilty witnesses without a warrant because he "knows" everything that happened off-screen (including the innocent person who got murdered because he was so bad at his job a day ago but we don't think about that) and he ends up saving the day with a speech to the villain about how "life isn't like the movies." Thank God we don't have that. Wright/Pegg were wise to decide early on that Angel's character is to be taken 100% seriously, he's exactly as smart and professional in the beginning as he is in the end. And the dumbass comedy of the movie-obsessed cowboy is given to Teddy, whom you'd think could never be a cop but it's contextualised as him literally being the constable's son, and the general ineptitude of the local police department isn't _just_ a commentary on movie tropes or politics; instead it's contextualised plot-relevant, IN-story, that the NWA intentionally keeps their police complacent and unmotivated so they can get away with their social engineering. Hot Fuzz is a great story, that happens to support cop movie tropes, biting satire, AND silly comedy. The cliché genre callbacks are a punchline on top of the already-functional story, they're not the cover the whole plot has to hide behind.
3 mins into their brand new officially named Star Wars podcast “we don’t have too much to talk about this week with Star Wars, it’s probably gonna be dead til new years” 😂 i’m here for it!!
For some reason, your message gives me the option to "translate to English". I clicked on it out of curiosity and all it did was make the first "I" a little thinner. Google is truly the only jam that beings me Averys
You know, Its really nice to see how much Theory's views have come around over the past few years. I may even consider re subbing to his channel. Good guy Mauler rehabbing peoples reputations.
Mauler brings out of the best in people. One of my new favorite shows/podcasts. And as far as de-canonizing everything in the Disney era, I think it really comes down to if those films/shows destroy or ignore pre-established canon or lack respect for the source material. For me that includes the Sequel Trilogy, Solo, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ashoka and Book of Boba Fett. These products mess with the lore, disrespect established characters and their fans and fail to progress the story forward. Alternatively, I believe whether or not you like Rogue One or Andor, those two films/shows ADD to the lore without destroying what came before and can easily exist within the boundaries of what already existed while adding depth and new characters. Not sure how I feel about Mandalorian Seasons 1&2 (Season 3 doesn’t exist). I don’t think it detracts from pre-established lore but it’s difficult to say.
Good god, the sheer journey you're on, Maulslie. One never knows what to expect. Cheers to embedding you even more firmly into the fabric of YT media analysis, and beyond. /
i think this is a very good idea, there are thousands possibly millions of disenfranchised star wars fans that have essentially become homeless with no real content (of quality) to consume. hopefully this could be the spark to inspire someone or something to produce a product aimed at these fans
If only Theory and others had pushed Gilroy as hard as they pushed Filoni we might actually get some good Star Wars past Andor season 2 The empire is never more alive than when we sleep!
its great to see mauler making new connections and producing interesting content, but i hope be doesn't get burnt out .... dude seems like such a nice guy wanting to help everyone but i just hope he doesn't stretch himself to thin and end up losing the passion .....like so many others yanno
I hope theory knows what hes getting into when asking mauler to watch something he likes. Especially because i have this strange feeling that mauler isnt going to like CW at all.
SWT once again putting his massive intellect on display by saying "I would love for RUclips to just absolutely take over in all those [streaming] spaces." And Mauler, of course, recognizes how big brain this is, and very carefully chooses his words afterwards.
Hearing Theory’s vocabulary as often as is necessary, I have noticed how his rational for most of his talking points is that of the word ‘cool.’ “Does it qualify as a good movie or show?” Theory: “Is it cool? If so, then yes.”
It's almost as if he doesn't have any writing standards or really gives any thought to anything. The guy literally said he wish RUclips would get a monopoly on streaming.
Mauler you’re a Saint right here. That you could let him ramble about his TRoS script. You must have been shaking. Only stopped him at magic. Theory is so inconsistent it’s crazy.. this would honestly be a good one for efap. I can hear fringy screaming “what does that mean?” When I’m listening. 0:48:0 - 1:10:0 is some seriously wild shit that would have been way worse than the sequels. Death realm and magic.
There is really a good idea nugget in there. If Luke had been “resurrected” and Sebastian Stan had come thru, like his own “Gandalf the White” moment, it could’ve been cinematically epic.
Wow how crazy is it that Theory listed Last Samurai, Gladiator, and Troy as his favorite movies.....and they are part of the upcoming EFAP War Movie Arc?
There is nothing wrong about praising mauler for extending the olive branch to Theory. However, we also need to acknowledge Theory deciding to recipricate. He didnt have to, he chose to.
All I hear in my heard is Bill Murray from his SNL lounge singer skit singing "STAR GRIFT NOTHING BUT STAAAAR GRIIIIFT!! GIVE ME THOSE STAAAAAR GRIIIIFT!"
I'm glad the question of what you would do with RoS came up cause it's such a complex challenge, it might as well be a blank canvas. The most interesting thing they did with Rey in that film was implying there was a dark version of her, which from the trailer, people theorized she could've been a clone, so I would probably run with that. Make it so she's a clone from a dead Sith that is waiting for her to be strong enough for them to take over. Maybe have this play into Theory's interest in Plaegueis and have her be his partner and the reason they waited so long to come back was to wait for their vessels to mature long enough. You could have Palpatine knowing how to find the clones and kept killing them in their infancy, busting whatever operation they had set up, but once he was gone, they were free to experiment (evil broom boy, let's go). This could frame the First Order as this shadow organization that kept growing in the shadows and taking scraps from the Empire to grow in power. Snoke would still work as a defective clone and would frame his disgust for Kylo's admiration for Vader as his hatred for anything related to Palpatine. For Luke, the best I can think of is Palpatine influencing him to force him to kill Force users, but when he tried to kill Kilo, that snapped him out of it and forced him into isolation. That way Papatine could turn his attention to Kylo causing his obsession with Darth Vader and influencing his decision to join Snoke as a spy so he can learn Plaegueis' secret. With that set up, the film would probably consist of the sequel trio trying to find a way to prevent Rey from being taken over, maybe by destroying some secret relic or machine kept by the First Order required for the process, as they are being chased by the Knights of Ren. Ultimately discovering a fully grown Plaegueis clone ready to be taken over. Meanwhile, Luke's ghost would have his own spiritual battle with Palpatine for the soul of Kylo in order to prevent him from capturing Rey, which would imply that in TLJ, he knew this was the only way he could save his nephew. Would be interesting to have Plaegueis' presence as this foreboding figure with moments where he takes over random people or droids. Still, I can't think of anything for Finn, Poe or Leia, they can probably work on a smaller, more personal level, but it would take a deeper exploration of the script to do so.
Alright, you know how in Crisis On Infinite Earths and other absurd Sci-Fi shows, MauLer and others talk about how stupid and impossible the concept of a "Dimension or place outside of time and space" is and how it makes no sense? I'm beginning to think that this is all just a cover for the fact that MauLer is actually a God of one such realm. The part where he lists all the podcasts he's a part of this week was absurd and my reaction was just "Do you exist outside of TIME?!". I believe he in fact does exist outside of time
Tales was ass. Dooku and Qui-Gon literally do the Elf War plotline of just believing the one side are "good guys" and the other side deserve to be choked to death for being too rich. Lame.
I wonder if Theory ever watched the episode when EFAP reacted his video about Disney destroying Star Wars. They went pretty nuclear on his takes and I haven't really heard them talk about that specifically.
OOOF look I love Theory. I watched him before I watched Mauler, and Mauler got me back into writing. Please, Theory, I watched you in highschool, I'm so glad to see you here with Mauler, this is awesome. But you've gotta rewatch Man of Steel. The fact that Superman baborts thousands of kryptonian infants while shouting "KRYPTON HAD ITS CHANCE!" Before crying because he snapped Zod's neck and "He was the last of my kind!😭" Hey, Superman, remember when there was thousands more of your kind in the form of innocent INFANT children and you MURDERED all of them in their matrix pods, because the guy who wanted the world to end (Zod, the guy superman was so emotioanally devastated by killing) wanted to repopulate with these infants who never had a choice either way? Look, its a bird! It's a plane!... Ope, nevermind, its a genocidal maniac!
I can`t think of anyone that could make a real Star Wars movie. If i HAD to choose i would let the makers of The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (for the fantasy/fairy tale vibe/story) together with George Miller (for the telling story during action scenes style and the way he introduces strange things and bizarre world building/strange culture stuff and make it feel "normal" realy quick) give it a shot.
I hope to god that HBO adapts TLOU II 100% faithfully. I need to see the fallout that was felt in the gaming space to be on a normie-TV watcher scale. The chaos would be incredible.
I'd love to see an Edgar Wright Star Wars film. In all honesty, Baby Driver was pretty close to being an Earth-bound Han Solo origin story. Obviously, I don't mean that the main character becomes Han Solo. Wright had just come off of being let go by Marvel and Ansel Elgort really wanted to be cast in the Solo movie, but wasn't chosen. I don't know that either thing had anything to do with Baby Driver, but Miles (Baby) feels very much like a Han -nspired character and the whole thing seems like it'd work pretty well as a Han origin story, with the names and setting changed. Anyway, I think Elgort would've been a better and more age-appropriate Solo, and Wright is just great. I'd love to see what he'd do in the Star Wars universe.
SWT arguing _in favor of_ magic in Star Wars: "There's rules with the Force. Magic - there's no rules. You can do whatever you want." Thanks. You just reminded me of why I hate most portrayals of magic.
You posted this yesterday. You look great together :) It's true. People love stories about downfall and redemption. Anakin's story is perfect. That's why we love him so much. Among other things. May the Force be with you,always😊
The clone wars episodes, in terms of story, are not fully chronological with the release order as one of the chatters said. There is a guide. Somewhere along season 3 I believe, they just made it chronological. But in the beginning, it was their original plan to just have stories. I noticed it with some of the Padme's episodes around the senate and politics. And then like episode 4 in season 1 where heavy and other clones and guarding an outpost.
My friend and I really wanted Rey to be a good characyer when TFA came out and we had so many theories and questions and what-ifs concerning her and I was especially hoping we got depth into Phasma... and then the new trilogy kept going... and going and the spin-offs kept just droning... and at one point i just stopped. My friend held on longer but even he gave up on SW.
Give Andor a watch. On the 4th episode the show gets way bigger and paints an excellent picture of what the galaxy would actually look like 3 years before A New Hope. For the first time since I was a kid, this show makes you take stormtroopers and the Empire seriously. It's biggest problem is it's a multi-character ensemble with many viewpoints, like seeing how imperial investigators _actually track down_ troublemakers, or seeing Mon Mothma as a POV character trying to forge alliances among the sheltered passive-aggressive elites in the government; but half these characters remain off-screen until the 4th episode so no one knows what the show is actually about. It's like all those "hang in there it gets good" assurances, but this one actually has some worldbuilding and cosmic spectacle and monologues in store if you're willing to find it; not just 30 seconds of flashing colors and a dream sequence. Unironically my ranking is OT Andor PT Jedi Outcast Tartakovsky's Clone Wars . . Everything else. Mando/Clone Wars aren't even on the same radar.
@@samwallaceart288 I like to think that if Tartakovsky had been brought in to do the writing and story boarding for the Mandalorian it would’ve been a MUCH better show.
I think it's time to add EPAD (Excessive Podcast Addiction Disorder) to MauLer's insurance
No! Think of the poor NHS!
As an ancient extraterrestrial, Mauler doesn't suffer from it - he created the disorder and is now simply spreading it to us, mere mortals
MauLer's Excessive Podcast Addiction Disorder
That's like trying to give a diagnosis to Slenderman, or David Hasselhoff, or Bigfoot.
Along with an HIV vaccine
So glad the Longman is bringing people together. Honestly reaching Theory's large audience and promoting good writing might eventually effect some change.
Like the negative changes Theory & many others promoted by DEFENDING bad writing for all those years??
But in reverse...
Its a great opportunity for both audiences to understand each creator better and realize we all have more in common than we realized.
funny about the ppl bitching to Theory about Mooler and he gives 0 shits what they gotta say. Lol
Welcome to the Dark Side, Theory.
here is your Cookie
FAX
@@Ravathiel I consider the other camp to be the "Dark Side".
If Skeleton crew isn’t about a bunch of skeletons playing blackjack in a derelict spaceship while cracking jokes, I’m gonna riot.
Every time I'm reminded about that show, all I can think of is the 1995 Amiga game "Skeleton Krew"
Which would probably turn out to be a more entertaining show for all I know
The Mauler/Efap Cycle:
Mauler and/or EFAP criticizes someone or their video, then invites them on to discuss said criticisms, then surprisingly after talking, the person being criticized has such a fun and productive talk with Mauler, that they not only take the criticisms to heart, but wish to join in friendship and start to join Mauler on streams.
Its a beautiful thing!!!! Its happened now with Fringy, JayXi, Nutso, (about 3 others i cant remember their channel names but they are now regulers on EFAP), and now Starwars Theory!!
How dare you forget Wolf, the progenitor of this cycle!!!
@@danishcartoonist545 damn im sorry i did forget wolf!!! Apologies!!
wait Fringy was criticized? That would be new lore to me. Oh and you forgot Moriarty as well
@@ghoulsome9483 like i said there's a handful of people i forgot, and yeah theyve said that fringy met the crew that way too
@@ghoulsome9483 Am i correct in recalling him as doom sausage guy? or was that someone else?
Mauler's life is soon going to consist of nothing but waking up, talking on streams for 14 hours, and going to bed
Aw that's adorable. You think Mauler sleeps.
Hint: he waits
It's almost like extroverts doing nothing but talk to people all day
Sleep Grift
14 hours. Ha. Ahaha. You so generous.
Mauler, you might not know this, but you're on your 18th redemption arc. It's almost as compelling as your 7th redemption, but nothing compares to your 11th downfall.
His 11th downfall? It was nine! Nine! Nine was the best Downfall!
funny mustache man shouting math again
Mauler is a coward. Get a grip fan-boy
@@Bla_bla_blablatron afraid of the long? 😏
@@Bla_bla_blablatron you are still in the downfall part of the story? hurry up old man
So theory is def gonna be summoned to the next star-wars efap right? Love the chemistry
He'll step off like the Emperor
Yeah, I like these two. I've been watching MauLer since before the Gas Mask, and it's crazy how long he's grown.
I like this as a more chill podcast and you and theory both have very relaxing voices. Sorta thing i'd listen to at midnight in bed, great podcast.
I literally did this with last week's episode. It was great!
They both have great radio voices, perfect for this conversational style of show. Reminds me of something I might have listened to on NPR 25 years ago.
‘I’m Terry Gross, and this is Fresh Air.’
Wow, Mauler saying it’s been almost a decade that Rey has been around really sat with me for a bit. Like who even is she?? I’d love to know.
The teaser came out 10 years ago...
Holy shit I feel old now
Well she's no one! obviously, also Palpys grandchild.
She’s Rey
Rey Skywalker
Now I'm not exactly an encyclopedia of the facts around how the hell this all happened, but assuming I have it right, I'm a big lover of how the hell this all happened. Basically, SWT sniped at MauLer one time, and all of a sudden we have Star Grift Mondays where they both chill and hang out for 2 hours
SWT made some weird statements about how unfair it was that the Kenobi show budget was "peanuts" compared to Andor and She-Hulk. (Kenobi budget was smaller than the other 2, but still like 90mil, hardly peanuts).
Also that Andor is a show for pretentious baguette eaters.
EFAP had a segment on an episode where they dissected all that.
Next thing you know Mauler is on SWT's podcast and they have surprisingly good chemistry and it's all chill.
So yeah you were basically correct with your summary.
SWT being bad at math started this new gem of a podcast.
A similar thing happened with Mauler and Wolf. I think both of them took shots at each other before they started talking, and became friends.
@@j-starchaserTo be fair, EFAP sniped Theory, in retaliation for sniping Andor.
The difference is when EFAP snipes you, they stand their ground, explain why they did it, and unironically give you the opportunity to confront them about it.
Most people who do get to that point get to that awkward "Wait, you actually owned up to what you said and have a solid reason for doing so? . . . Well shit, now what?" And they end up joining the gang.
@@leakyboat224 I don't know much about Wolf's arc with Mauler, I do know about Jay's rhino milk arc and it was beautiful
@@casualduck7398 That's some old EFAP lore. You're not likely to get that outside of the *really* early EFAP episodes. I'm pretty sure it started with MauLer in his TLJ Critique.
MauLer was bringing up different film criticism channels like Jenny Nichols and talking about how some people aren't great at reviewing certain movies as opposed to others because they don't have any investment in the franchise in which to form criticisms.
In this segment, he brought up how much he loved one of Wolf's videos, but I can't remember which one, but he threw in near the end that he thought his Thor: Ragnarok video was "honestly terrible", because Wolf apparently didn't like that film. Someone went to Wolf's comments and said something to the effect of "MauLer's talking shit!", causing Wolf to check out that part of MauLer's video where he was mentioned. He commented "Them's *fighting* words", and I'm not 100% on this next part, records are dusty around this time, MauLer invited Wolf to hang out on Discord and then suddenly they're just friends.
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can’t pick your friend MauLer’s nose because he wears a damned gas mask.
Kylo Ren getting darker and darker is a good idea but there is no way you can do that with a villain who is constantly being outplayed by the heroes. TLJ ends with him basically waving his hands in the air not even knowing what planet the good guys are on.
Kylo basically won at the end of TLJ, Luke was dead, 99.9% of the Resistance wiped out. So what if a dozen got away?
Dora the Explorer: "Do YOU see where the Resistance is hiding? . . . What? They're hiding on the planet right there with nothing but space around it? There they are! You FOUND them!"
"But The Force has a set of defined rules."
I hope that Mauler can slowly give this gentleman some sense.
And the fact theory said there's no rules to magic, especially when comparing it to the force, made me cringe. As if every story in the world uses the exact same magic system. Im loving the fact they're doing this podcast together, but its evident he still has no idea what he's talking about.
@@BoggydanBuckney Brandon Sanderson is known for creating magic systems with tons of rules and limits.
@@kingragnarok7302 Hearing him say this was literally painful... _to me._
Takashi Yamazaki. No question. _Godzilla Minus One_ creator should be put in charge of Star Wars.
He can direct a movie with slow character development building to perfectly-placed action setpieces that are tense as hell. He can write simple but lovable characters whom you know everything about in their first scene, but continue to surprise you right up to the climax. And he comes from VFX pedigree with a mind to push forward the medium without wasting the producers' money or the audience's time.
Takashi Yamazaki. No doubt. Hiring him as THE Star Wars director would _actually_ save the franchise. He gets it.
Plus he made the Space Battleship Yamato movie, which is already just this side of being basically just Star Wars.
Starwarstheory has been infected by the hatemongery of the toxic brood!
and it is a good pain!
Ohh no. :D Anyway good one to the collection.
His verbal terrorism shall be honed to a fine edge!
The Long consumes all
Welcome to the club
As soon as I saw Mauler and Theory had talked I said give it two weeks and they'll be doing a show together.
Love it.
That opening is epic. 😂
A "KANGaroo Court" to be judged by A jury of his peers. Now that's meta.😂
Bruh the scene in Creed III where they're boxing and hallucinating a dark fog and prison bars is super relevant all the sudden
MauLer: "Alright, you've convinced me. I will watch The Clone Wars."
Theory: "Ah yeah, cool. You don't even have to watch all of it. A lot you can just skip."
MauLer: "No. That isn't how this works."
😂 Mauler: You don't know who I am.
Gotta say, if Mauler commits, he does it all the way.
It's so weird for someone that's such a huge fan of it to say "I love it, it's so good, so awesome, you'll love it! Just skip half of it." Are you trying to sell me on this thing or not?
Also kinda weird that he doesn't know it's not chronological.
And, I'm gonna be honest, MauLer's free to like elements in it, but I'll be disappointed if he doesn't go hard on how bad a rather large percentage of it is.
@@alexhayden219 I could see it happening, but it's a tell that the show itself is mostly shit but has a couple standout moments.
So I don't recommend watching _Steven Universe_ because it's a plagiarized, morally hypocritical, unprofessional, meandering time-waste that's 90% filler focusing on annoying side characters' first-world problems.
BUT, the show has a couple really good plotlines.
In that case, _if I knew the person was interested and gonna watch it anyway,_ I would comb through it and give them a list of the good arcs that actually have a story to tell, and bring it out to basically 1 season's worth of content that's half-decent and watchable.
The biggest difference between me and Theory is, if I have to go through all of that, _I don't call the show "good"_
Thing with MauLer is he actually _likes_ and considers necessary all of Buffy and Andor, he only says "just stick through the slow beginning to the good part" because he's seen that not everyone has the same mileage he does. But if he actually thought it was unnecessary he would tell them to skip it.
@@samwallaceart288 I can definitely see him enjoying certain episodes or arcs, overall, but I agree that I can't call the show good. I guess I see him pulling his punches throughout these discussions, already, and don't want him to when it comes to giving a serious watch of this show. Praise it where it deserves it, of course. But there's A LOT of sludge to waid through.
What I can see being the most likely scenario would probably be similar to the prequels, themselves. Enjoyable, but mostly terrible. Some highs but lots and lots of deep down lows.
And, it'd just be more interesting to see how Theory reacts to a serious and thorough negative criticism of much of it. Go too soft and I can see him thinking they're "mostly in agreement."
Apparently Snyder fans want Theory to be a Snyder fan not knowing he started a podcast with Mauler
Timestamps
0:00 Intro & Intro
1:05 Approval
3:25 Star Wars News
4:18 Snyderverse (1)
5:45 Rian, Adam & Dave
8:41 The Power Of Chat
10:18 Twitch
13:00 Snyderverse (2)
19:27 Upcoming Trilogies
21:17 Favorite Movies
24:38 Jailed Actors
29:08 The Suicide Squad & The Last Of Us
37:40 Star Wars Graveyard
41:25 Weak Men: The Nick Fury Example
44:14 Strang Females: The Rey Example
48:08 SWT's Episode IX
55:05 Mauler's Episode IX
58:18 Promises & Copyright
59:35 Superchats (1)
1:00:15 What Mauler Should Watch Next? (1)
1:04:35 Superchats (2)
1:31:20 What Mauler Should Watch Next? (2)
1:33:12 Superchats (3)
1:55:00 Star War The Third Gathers: Backstroke of the West
1:57:24 Superchats (4)
"Do you sell merch?"
MauLer, the answer is yes. Maybe not as much or as frequently new, but your teespring store is up and you do a yearly special - so far plush or vinyl. Such humble. Just say it's not your priority. It's one of your many differences.
Hey Mauler, got some thematically appropriate names for future episodes. A New Grift, The Grift Strikes Back, Return of the Grift, The Grift Menace, Attack of the Grift, Revenge of the Grift, The Grift Awakens, The Last Grift, Rise of the Griftwalker. There's so much media, books, games, show episodes, etc in Star Wars to pull from.
And my favourite game
Grift Wars - Grift at War: Forces of Grift
Don't forget the special, "Rogue Grift".
I would love to see you guys have conversation with Thor Skywalker, he’s great at this sort of “what if” conversations and has a deep knowledge of both Star Wars and marvel.
YES! I would love to see Thor Skywalker on a panel with Mauler, I think he's got a good balanced take on things, and he knows a ton about Star Wars.
I'd _much more_ appreciate conversations with Thor Skywalker than with SWT.
The only thing I want for Christmas is a Lindsey Ellis/Mauler collaboration. Jebby Nicholson and Star Wars Theory would also work.
Dude imagine MauLer and HBomb were in a debate, and then Lindsay shows up unannounced in the middle after years in self-cancellation; that'd be hype AF and I genuinely wouldn't know which way it'd swing
@@samwallaceart288 Now that I think about it, her cancellation was just her wanting to quit, cause she doesn't seem to have tried anything else.
@@ProxyDoug yeah iirc she was getting bullshit from leftists and Twitter sniped and she was just over the whole thing.
Looks like she's doing something on Nebula now, though; just an hour ago something's up on her channel.
1:26:00 Edwards was never fired from Rogue One, but Gilroy was brought on to do major script revisions partway into production and helped deliver a significantly different film, while not completely changing it from what had already been shot and worked on.
Regarding the Vader scene, it was basically the last thing that was shot. It wasn't the suggestion of a janitor or some other rando. It was Gareth Edwards and his editor, Jabez Olssen, working on cutting the film together. Olssen suggested that they needed a final badass scene for Vader. They discussed it, brought it to Kennedy, she greenlit it, and Edwards developed it with his team.
Edwards was involved in setting the scene up, but handed the direction of the scene over so that he could appear in it (he's the guy that pulls the emergency handle to shut the doors and detach to disembark - kind of the most pivotal minor role of the whole franchise, he jokes). The director was Edwards' Second Unit Director, Simon Crane.
In 2023, Freddie Prinze, Jr. revealed that it was actually directed by Dave Filoni.
Very shortly later in 2023, Rogue One screenwriter Gary Whitta, Rogue One co-editor Kevin Hickman, and reporter Roberto Gonzalez all basically said (paraphrasing here) that, as usual, Freddie Prinze, Jr. doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
If I may add a bit to the Knifes Out talk, one of Columbo's shticks was that you knew who was the killer from start usually, there was maybe like one episode where they didn't di this. Rian's little reveal in the first Knives Out has been done decades ago....
Yeah
But Columbo was good
Yeah Theory's point is incomplete there; the real problem is the movie keeps changing its mind how smart or stupid a character depending on what the plot needs.
Colombo always starts by setting all the characters intelligence and skill levels right off the bat, and episode is watching all the characters react to the wild card who's Colombo.
But in Knives Out, Benoit Ransom and homegirl are all the wild-card at different points of the story, but the only way for the story to work is that they're all _actually stupid_ when the plot needs them to not notice something cartoonishly obvious, and _actually smart_ when the plot needs them to deduce something crazy.
Columbo's great. Rian's a fool that's followed by other fools that think he's a genius. Benoit's a clown that's right about one thing: it's just dumb.
Writing is hard and I'm impressed when quality of story and consistency of character lasts across a long running TV show, but the consistency of a main character should be fairly well established and understood by the writer that created or shepherded them. Rian's characters don't stay consistent scene-to-scene, let alone across a larger story or series. I view most of what Rian does as both intended parody and satire, but most good parodies still have consistent characters with established parameters. And I, personally, just don't find what he does very funny, even when it's clearly supposed to be.
Part of what makes it different than Columbo is this parody element. Where Columbo can be humorous, Rian's work is intentionally a bit ridiculous. What's frustrating is that people, including professionals in the field, think it's good at being a parody, a satire, and a mystery. It's not particularly good at any of those things.And a big element in all those things not working is consistency and believability of characters. I don't think it works as satire because it also doesn't have consistency of message and the larger body often doesn't support whatever otherwise sensible message is supposed to be taken - usually spoken plainly in dialogue near the end. This all applies to his other self-written work, as well. At least, the ones I can remember. I saw his first two movies years ago and didn't fully retain them or rewatch them.
@@alexhayden219 I always go back to Hot Fuzz. If Johnson wrote it, Sgt Angel would be a big braggart movie cop who everyone laughs off as a dumb cowboy, and all throughout the movie you see him _NOT doing his paperwork_ "I'm all about the action, let the bureaucrats handle the rest", and half the plot would rely on Angel being fucking stupid and missing obvious clues.
But then midway through the movie we suddenly find out Angel's secretly a nerdy supergenius with a photographic memory, and all that time he was pushing paperwork and research away, it was because _he ALREADY KNEW EVERYTHING._ And the second half of the plot hinges on him being absurdly intelligent and assaulting guilty witnesses without a warrant because he "knows" everything that happened off-screen (including the innocent person who got murdered because he was so bad at his job a day ago but we don't think about that) and he ends up saving the day with a speech to the villain about how "life isn't like the movies."
Thank God we don't have that.
Wright/Pegg were wise to decide early on that Angel's character is to be taken 100% seriously, he's exactly as smart and professional in the beginning as he is in the end. And the dumbass comedy of the movie-obsessed cowboy is given to Teddy, whom you'd think could never be a cop but it's contextualised as him literally being the constable's son, and the general ineptitude of the local police department isn't _just_ a commentary on movie tropes or politics; instead it's contextualised plot-relevant, IN-story, that the NWA intentionally keeps their police complacent and unmotivated so they can get away with their social engineering.
Hot Fuzz is a great story, that happens to support cop movie tropes, biting satire, AND silly comedy. The cliché genre callbacks are a punchline on top of the already-functional story, they're not the cover the whole plot has to hide behind.
@@samwallaceart288 Hot Fuzz really is superb and doesn't get enough wider recognition.
3 mins into their brand new officially named Star Wars podcast “we don’t have too much to talk about this week with Star Wars, it’s probably gonna be dead til new years” 😂 i’m here for it!!
I’m gonna GROOOOOOOOFT!
Oh no he groofted all over the stars
For some reason, your message gives me the option to "translate to English". I clicked on it out of curiosity and all it did was make the first "I" a little thinner.
Google is truly the only jam that beings me Averys
@@parsa1372 That sounds powerful
You know, Its really nice to see how much Theory's views have come around over the past few years. I may even consider re subbing to his channel.
Good guy Mauler rehabbing peoples reputations.
Actually fills me with joy that Mauler and Theory have this Bromance going on.
"Save the Grift!" - Star Grifterra
This is neat
No, it's NEET
This is real
"A force User who also has magic could bring back the soul and body respectively"
Uhhh. According to the animated shows, Palpatine fits that bill.
Mauler, we love you and all... but have you considered not working 24/7
Mauler brings out of the best in people. One of my new favorite shows/podcasts.
And as far as de-canonizing everything in the Disney era, I think it really comes down to if those films/shows destroy or ignore pre-established canon or lack respect for the source material. For me that includes the Sequel Trilogy, Solo, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ashoka and Book of Boba Fett. These products mess with the lore, disrespect established characters and their fans and fail to progress the story forward.
Alternatively, I believe whether or not you like Rogue One or Andor, those two films/shows ADD to the lore without destroying what came before and can easily exist within the boundaries of what already existed while adding depth and new characters.
Not sure how I feel about Mandalorian Seasons 1&2 (Season 3 doesn’t exist). I don’t think it detracts from pre-established lore but it’s difficult to say.
Mauler... are you okay? You need an intervention for that streaming addiction?
Try grifting, that's a good trick! - Mauler Skywalker
Enemies to lovers is my favorite youtuber trope
Good god, the sheer journey you're on, Maulslie. One never knows what to expect. Cheers to embedding you even more firmly into the fabric of YT media analysis, and beyond. /
Loser
Also be interested for Theory to join an Efap on a later episode covering a Star Wars release.
i think this is a very good idea, there are thousands possibly millions of disenfranchised star wars fans that have essentially become homeless with no real content (of quality) to consume. hopefully this could be the spark to inspire someone or something to produce a product aimed at these fans
If only Theory and others had pushed Gilroy as hard as they pushed Filoni we might actually get some good Star Wars past Andor season 2
The empire is never more alive than when we sleep!
Me when new Filoni product is announced: "I'm old, I'm tired, and I _just don't care anymore. . ."_
@@samwallaceart288 'that cannon is in my head. They can burn as many continuitys as they like they'll never find me!'
its great to see mauler making new connections and producing interesting content, but i hope be doesn't get burnt out .... dude seems like such a nice guy wanting to help everyone but i just hope he doesn't stretch himself to thin and end up losing the passion .....like so many others yanno
Backstroke of the west is joyous, I highly recommend.
I hope theory knows what hes getting into when asking mauler to watch something he likes. Especially because i have this strange feeling that mauler isnt going to like CW at all.
Now this is podcasting!
SWT once again putting his massive intellect on display by saying "I would love for RUclips to just absolutely take over in all those [streaming] spaces." And Mauler, of course, recognizes how big brain this is, and very carefully chooses his words afterwards.
Much of these discussions feels like he's enjoying himself, while also being very strategic with his words and the battles he chooses.
"What does EFAP mean? Internet fapping?"
oh my god...
"A fine addition to my collection..."
The perfect description.
Mauler does like some movies. His watchthrough of hott fuzz was great
Hearing Drinker and the Longman praise the Cornetto Trilogy got me to rewatch, and finish them out. High praise goes a long way
EFAP movies w/ Theory of Backstroke Of The West sounds awesome, this needs to happen ❤
Hearing Theory’s vocabulary as often as is necessary, I have noticed how his rational for most of his talking points is that of the word ‘cool.’
“Does it qualify as a good movie or show?”
Theory: “Is it cool? If so, then yes.”
the virgin Internal Consistency vs the chad Rule of Cool
It's almost as if he doesn't have any writing standards or really gives any thought to anything.
The guy literally said he wish RUclips would get a monopoly on streaming.
_“The Forbe$ is strong in this one…”_ -*Darth Baggins*
To grift or not to grift? That's a very easy question. Grift of course. 🐸
The name's awesome in how looking up, "Star Wars Grifter," would bring you guys up along with people who have called you such.
Legit love the collab. I've supported you both for years. This is great.
this is beautiful
I'm Griftering
Mauler now has 4 weekly multi-hour streams
AND he makes his own nuggies
@@samwallaceart288 but how!?
I would have thought without the nuggie bringer one could not simply have nuggies
Alright, I'm sold. What the fuck even is this
Mauler you’re a Saint right here. That you could let him ramble about his TRoS script. You must have been shaking. Only stopped him at magic. Theory is so inconsistent it’s crazy.. this would honestly be a good one for efap. I can hear fringy screaming “what does that mean?” When I’m listening.
0:48:0 - 1:10:0 is some seriously wild shit that would have been way worse than the sequels. Death realm and magic.
There is really a good idea nugget in there. If Luke had been “resurrected” and Sebastian Stan had come thru, like his own “Gandalf the White” moment, it could’ve been cinematically epic.
That’s a lot of podcasts Mauler is apart of.
@enjoytheholidays you’ll get no debate from me. I’m just saying I hope he doesn’t stretch himself too thin.
You guys need to get Thor Skywalker on!
Thor would be an excellent guest. He has a true passion for Star Wars, deep understanding of the lore and meta, and common sense.
Thor is the perfect middle ground between these two
Perfect timing as i needed something to listen to while under the weather
I still remember the first time we saw the back of MauLer's head. Good times.
Longman is the only thing that brings me joy in life
Love the intro! May the Grift be with you!
Those sabers this guys is selling actually look pretty good
The first five-ten minutes of Rey's introduction in TFA with no dialogue was absolutely the best part of the entire sequel trilogy, without contest.
Ryan Johnson can do a Jar Jar trilogy
Watching Clone Wars chronologically is not chronological.
SWT: "I don't remember anything being weird or out of place."
I'm both surprised... and not.
Epic intro lol
Wow how crazy is it that Theory listed Last Samurai, Gladiator, and Troy as his favorite movies.....and they are part of the upcoming EFAP War Movie Arc?
Hey Mauler have considered watching Auralnauts Star Wars parodies? Would make some interesting content for you and Theory.
Love the intro, hehe. Great discussion guys!
There is nothing wrong about praising mauler for extending the olive branch to Theory. However, we also need to acknowledge Theory deciding to recipricate. He didnt have to, he chose to.
I like these as well, thanks guys
I’m GRIFTING
All I hear in my heard is Bill Murray from his SNL lounge singer skit singing "STAR GRIFT NOTHING BUT STAAAAR GRIIIIFT!! GIVE ME THOSE STAAAAAR GRIIIIFT!"
What a shame... Mauler and EFAP used to be peak entertainment... but everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked!!!
I've followed EFAP and mauler for years now, it's nice to find someone new in Theory
I'm glad the question of what you would do with RoS came up cause it's such a complex challenge, it might as well be a blank canvas.
The most interesting thing they did with Rey in that film was implying there was a dark version of her, which from the trailer, people theorized she could've been a clone, so I would probably run with that. Make it so she's a clone from a dead Sith that is waiting for her to be strong enough for them to take over. Maybe have this play into Theory's interest in Plaegueis and have her be his partner and the reason they waited so long to come back was to wait for their vessels to mature long enough.
You could have Palpatine knowing how to find the clones and kept killing them in their infancy, busting whatever operation they had set up, but once he was gone, they were free to experiment (evil broom boy, let's go). This could frame the First Order as this shadow organization that kept growing in the shadows and taking scraps from the Empire to grow in power. Snoke would still work as a defective clone and would frame his disgust for Kylo's admiration for Vader as his hatred for anything related to Palpatine.
For Luke, the best I can think of is Palpatine influencing him to force him to kill Force users, but when he tried to kill Kilo, that snapped him out of it and forced him into isolation. That way Papatine could turn his attention to Kylo causing his obsession with Darth Vader and influencing his decision to join Snoke as a spy so he can learn Plaegueis' secret.
With that set up, the film would probably consist of the sequel trio trying to find a way to prevent Rey from being taken over, maybe by destroying some secret relic or machine kept by the First Order required for the process, as they are being chased by the Knights of Ren. Ultimately discovering a fully grown Plaegueis clone ready to be taken over. Meanwhile, Luke's ghost would have his own spiritual battle with Palpatine for the soul of Kylo in order to prevent him from capturing Rey, which would imply that in TLJ, he knew this was the only way he could save his nephew.
Would be interesting to have Plaegueis' presence as this foreboding figure with moments where he takes over random people or droids.
Still, I can't think of anything for Finn, Poe or Leia, they can probably work on a smaller, more personal level, but it would take a deeper exploration of the script to do so.
Alright, you know how in Crisis On Infinite Earths and other absurd Sci-Fi shows, MauLer and others talk about how stupid and impossible the concept of a "Dimension or place outside of time and space" is and how it makes no sense? I'm beginning to think that this is all just a cover for the fact that MauLer is actually a God of one such realm. The part where he lists all the podcasts he's a part of this week was absurd and my reaction was just "Do you exist outside of TIME?!". I believe he in fact does exist outside of time
Gonna keep it a back, Mauler is gonna hate Tales
Tales was ass. Dooku and Qui-Gon literally do the Elf War plotline of just believing the one side are "good guys" and the other side deserve to be choked to death for being too rich. Lame.
I wonder if Theory ever watched the episode when EFAP reacted his video about Disney destroying Star Wars.
They went pretty nuclear on his takes and I haven't really heard them talk about that specifically.
It would be entertaining to see him on EFAP proper.
OOOF look I love Theory. I watched him before I watched Mauler, and Mauler got me back into writing. Please, Theory, I watched you in highschool, I'm so glad to see you here with Mauler, this is awesome. But you've gotta rewatch Man of Steel. The fact that Superman baborts thousands of kryptonian infants while shouting "KRYPTON HAD ITS CHANCE!" Before crying because he snapped Zod's neck and "He was the last of my kind!😭" Hey, Superman, remember when there was thousands more of your kind in the form of innocent INFANT children and you MURDERED all of them in their matrix pods, because the guy who wanted the world to end (Zod, the guy superman was so emotioanally devastated by killing) wanted to repopulate with these infants who never had a choice either way? Look, its a bird! It's a plane!... Ope, nevermind, its a genocidal maniac!
I'm convinced that all these copyright things on youtube are run by AI. Even if there was once someone who understood it, there aren't anymore.
Love this podcast already! Roll on more star grift! Two of my favourite creators! ❤️
18:24 I attribute Watchmen's quality more to David Hayter's writing.
Absolutely loving that you two gents have linked up.
I can`t think of anyone that could make a real Star Wars movie.
If i HAD to choose i would let the makers of The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (for the fantasy/fairy tale vibe/story) together with George Miller (for the telling story during action scenes style and the way he introduces strange things and bizarre world building/strange culture stuff and make it feel "normal" realy quick) give it a shot.
I hope to god that HBO adapts TLOU II 100% faithfully. I need to see the fallout that was felt in the gaming space to be on a normie-TV watcher scale. The chaos would be incredible.
But Molly I still dont know what a Y-Wing is!
It took me several moments to understand that you mean Mauler lol
It will take me even longer to figure out what the hell a Y-Wing is. Nobody has ever heard of those.
I'd love to see an Edgar Wright Star Wars film. In all honesty, Baby Driver was pretty close to being an Earth-bound Han Solo origin story.
Obviously, I don't mean that the main character becomes Han Solo.
Wright had just come off of being let go by Marvel and Ansel Elgort really wanted to be cast in the Solo movie, but wasn't chosen. I don't know that either thing had anything to do with Baby Driver, but Miles (Baby) feels very much like a Han -nspired character and the whole thing seems like it'd work pretty well as a Han origin story, with the names and setting changed.
Anyway, I think Elgort would've been a better and more age-appropriate Solo, and Wright is just great. I'd love to see what he'd do in the Star Wars universe.
2 shows deep and mauler is carrying the whole thing.
SWT arguing _in favor of_ magic in Star Wars: "There's rules with the Force. Magic - there's no rules. You can do whatever you want."
Thanks. You just reminded me of why I hate most portrayals of magic.
"What if you use both?" Aren't we just talking about Nightsisters?
Go for four CW episodes at a time, it's under two hours and you get through a whole arc
Mauler most likely has too much stuff to do. He mentions he has pretty right schedule with all the shows to cover and editing.
@@treethoown6414 Ya think?? The guy is doing an incredible amount of pop culture analysis for one person. It's staggering,
You posted this yesterday. You look great together :) It's true. People love stories about downfall and redemption. Anakin's story is perfect. That's why we love him so much. Among other things. May the Force be with you,always😊
The clone wars episodes, in terms of story, are not fully chronological with the release order as one of the chatters said. There is a guide. Somewhere along season 3 I believe, they just made it chronological. But in the beginning, it was their original plan to just have stories. I noticed it with some of the Padme's episodes around the senate and politics. And then like episode 4 in season 1 where heavy and other clones and guarding an outpost.
My friend and I really wanted Rey to be a good characyer when TFA came out and we had so many theories and questions and what-ifs concerning her and I was especially hoping we got depth into Phasma... and then the new trilogy kept going... and going and the spin-offs kept just droning... and at one point i just stopped. My friend held on longer but even he gave up on SW.
Give Andor a watch. On the 4th episode the show gets way bigger and paints an excellent picture of what the galaxy would actually look like 3 years before A New Hope. For the first time since I was a kid, this show makes you take stormtroopers and the Empire seriously.
It's biggest problem is it's a multi-character ensemble with many viewpoints, like seeing how imperial investigators _actually track down_ troublemakers, or seeing Mon Mothma as a POV character trying to forge alliances among the sheltered passive-aggressive elites in the government; but half these characters remain off-screen until the 4th episode so no one knows what the show is actually about.
It's like all those "hang in there it gets good" assurances, but this one actually has some worldbuilding and cosmic spectacle and monologues in store if you're willing to find it; not just 30 seconds of flashing colors and a dream sequence.
Unironically my ranking is
OT
Andor
PT
Jedi Outcast
Tartakovsky's Clone Wars
.
.
Everything else. Mando/Clone Wars aren't even on the same radar.
@@samwallaceart288 I like to think that if Tartakovsky had been brought in to do the writing and story boarding for the Mandalorian it would’ve been a MUCH better show.