Presidential historian Jon Meacham on 2024 election: 'This is like 1860'
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- Author and historian Jon Meacham delves into the state of the 2024 presidential election, as well as Mitch McConnell stepping down from his Senate GOP leadership position. #CNN #News
I'm no fan of Biden, but I'd vote for Biden's dog Major before I'd ever even consider voting for Trump
Your comment is exactly why you shouldn’t be allowed to vote at all.
@@brailrice Trump created the inflation catastrophe that makes President Joe Biden's options extraordinarily difficult, as Bush allowed the previous disaster of 2008! Seriously Smarter and Sensible Biden and Harris inspire decency and honor as well a brighter America
@@brailriceno, he’s got a point a dog would be a better president than Trump
@@brailrice Anyone who voted for Trump twice should be required by law to take a civics test if they want to vote.
Trump calls for the termination of the constitution and the poorly educated smile and clap for it.
@@brailrice No that's the reason this person should be "allowed" to vote. The minute you place restrictions on who should vote you out yourself as anti-American. If you can't get past tolerating those who have different opinions than you, regardless of how silly it may sound to you, then the US is simply not a place you should be. It's that simple. Truly no disrespect, but it's incredibly hypocritical for people so say they "LOVE FREEDOM" but only love it for themselves and no one else.
The Voice Of Reason Not Treason!! Vote Biden 2024 💙💙
People like you are the reason why the country and the West are in such serious trouble. People like you never learn. Biden has been an unmitigated disaster for America and the West. You just trot along in your own ignorance repeating the same mistakes and incompetenece, over and over again because of your twisted, puerile hate.
2018 Helsinki: Trump takes the word of Putin over that of the US intelligence service. Voters need to know no more.
I will vote blue
This should be Biden’s campaign slogan
Nice 👍
One candidate is old and has recovered our economy from COVID, the other candidate is old and wants to overthrow democracy after a practice run on Jan 6th.
The economy is in the toilet thanks to Joe Biden and the Dems.
You seriously need to have a word with yourself. What you have said is utter bullshit. You poor, deluded individual.
All he had to do is get out of the way
Yeah, would suit you wouldnt it? No wonder the West is utterly broken. People like you are the epitome of what went wrong in Europe in the early 20th Century.
@@seanmccartney5177
Jan 6th was worse than 9/11.
Right comrade?
Calling Donald Trump a president is like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a chef. America is tired of Trump!
Exactly
you have like 10 tds accounts
@@MasterBlaster-pe5os you have to remember that Trump lost.
@@MasterBlaster-pe5os
You sound like a stalker. Are you a stalker?
A vote for Biden is a vote for socialism… Don’t be brainwashed by the fake news 👎🏼👎🏼……. Newsmax is the real news 👍
Jon Meacham has got it.
Jon Meacham is such a good guest at this time in our country's history. So good to hear.
Lol... Meacham just compared himself to Jefferson... "people who look like me set the standard"
Ridiculous.
@@javierg7378 You don't realize it but you really missed the point! Were there any minority people amongst the founding fathers of this country? NO! They were all boring white guys. His comment was somewhat self deprecating. Listen to it again.
Yeah, such an unbiased guest 😂😂😂
This guy don't know nothing!
@@ronaldnixon8226 So are you saying, if he doesn't know nothing, that he knows stuff? Or are you saying you don't know how to write English? If you know more than John Meacham, I'm totally in awe of your encyclopedic knowledge, and wish you'd share it.
"Democracy is a way of seeing each other" well said!
Erm no. People like you are blind to your own bias and stupisity.
America should listen to John Meacham before it's too late!
@chuckstrawn3076
He's saying Trump is going to win.
Always feel soothed by Jon’s wisdom and historical context. Grateful he’s a friend of our president who is doing an amazing job facing into horrific conditions. Glad he’s at the helm instead of someone who is so erratic dishonest and narcissistic.
Meacham is not only brilliant he’s wise and he’s honorable. 👏👏👍👍He’s an American treasure
I wish people would focus on Trump’s 91 criminal indictments ahead of him, versus Joe’s 82 years behind him.
Agree. Look at him and a smug face like Bill Maher. Those who does not understand their own limits or the idea of respect are the bigger mouthpiece in Dem party
Not unhappy with Joe Biden - not concerned with his integrity. I would have voted for my Dad at 81. Would never have voted for the former guy at any age!
But in MAGA bizarro world Biden is the corrupt one and trump is a beacon of truth. Never forget members of his cult actually believe that.
I am unhappy with Joe Biden - I am concerned with his integrity. I would have voted for my Dad at 81. Would have voted for the former guy at any age.
Even if Pres. Biden was sitting there drooling over his porridge, I would still vote for him to avoid the failed destastrous criminal president!
People like you are the reason why the country and the West are in such serious trouble. People like you never learn. Biden has been an unmitigated disaster for America and the West. You just trot along in your own ignorance repeating the same mistakes and incompetenece, over and over again because of your twisted, puerile hate.
Thanks for the belly laugh I got from your comment
Thanks for proving my point.
Pffft!@@Lindyanne622
Roadkill will make a better president than trump
#Fact
Thank you, Jon Meacham for all of your wisdom.
Really appreciate you.
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Vote ❤
"Democracy is not just the right to vote; it is the right to live in dignity."
Naomi Klein
The US isn’t a democracy
It's also like 1933. It's like watching a bad nightmare in real time
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It is so much 1930s Germany. American are going to get something they will regret in the future. And it will be too late.
Jon Meacham is a breath of fresh air. Wish we had more figures like him speaking reason to power
What a great interview! This subject matter can put people to sleep, but Jon Meacham has reasoned this stuff so deeply that he broke into wisdom. This is compelling to watch.
The way I see this election, if we lose democracy, we can't fix anything else. No fixing abortion, the border, holding people accountable for war crimes-you don't get to do that in an autocracy or monarchy.
I'm curious; exactly how will we "lose democracy"? I haven't seen any coherent details on that.
@@MICHAEL-vy3ch If you really have to ask, you're part of the problem, Komrade.
@@MICHAEL-vy3ch Read Project 2025, that will tell you the authoritarian plan they have for the US if Trump wins.
@@gibbygoddamngibsonofficial Okay. So, just so I'm NOT part of the problem anymore, would you care to elaborate on exactly how anything could happen that would make us "lose democracy"? Tovarisch?
It will be the last time we vote. Thats what autocrats do. Trfufump, if he wins,will be President for as long as he lives, unless he passes to his VP. Then he WILL dismantle our government as we know it. Hiler dismantled Germany in 135 days. Now thats scary. Vote Blue right down the line 💙💙💙💙💙🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎
I was hoping the great John Meacham was going to lose his cool and say "grow the **** up" when she asked about not having 2 good choices but, "unhappy since Genesis" is pretty good too.
I’m sure that is what he was thinking!
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No CNN, more of us are happy with President Biden and will vote for him!!!
You are correct. Biden is far from ideal. But infinitely better than Trump. Trump is human garbage
*THEY ALL* _(including Republicans)_ *KNOW THAT, but it would sound too Partial.* They have to Represent the smaller percentage of Americans as well even though MOST are good with Biden. *It's a GOP Republican False Narrative* that MOST of the Country is Concerned *to turn Voters away* from Pres. Biden. *No Vote for him is a Vote for Trump as well.*
Unless you’re in a bubble, that’s not a given for all young people especially, even if you hate Trump. The support for Israel’s genocide against Palestinians is disaffecting many people who are personally close to the issue and they can’t bring themselves to vote for Biden. A significant voter block.
U must like war high prices etc
@jamiepaulzine6725
BlackRock, Vanguard, etc. has a crew of affiliated people camped out in the comment sections online. They profit from the forever war industry.
Democracy is more than a way of governing , it is how we see each other . Well said.
I prefer former Presidents who don't lose all of their money in court rulings...
He’ll hit a billion dollars in a short time.
no one cares what you prefer Canadian
Lib bot farm continues to talk to itself@@trumpisgoingtoprison177
I prefer former Presidents who's breath doesn't smell like Putin's junk.
Musk will bail him out, no doubt.
Quit interrupting him. Let him complete his train of thought.
Love Professor Meacham, great writer and teacher of history.
thank you Jon as always. I am less terrified when I see and hear your grounded, intelligent, calm assessment of where we are and also President Biden. thank you for wisdom without hysteria.
Excellent responses to weak interviewing techniques only highlights how centered and clear Meacham is in sharing his perspectives.
The only difference between this election cycle (2024) and 1860 is Gail and Charles are not only at the table but at the head of the table. We are being dragged back 150 years literally and figuratively.
No one is guaranteed another day here, regardless of age.
“We’ve been unhappy since the 3rd chapter of genesis”
We didn’t know he was Biden’s friend and I think it’s an irrelevant point. Many people who were Trump’s friend have come out AGAINST him and many others who worked in his administration have also come out against him.
Exactly my point. A non sequitur!
@@jamessmith8998 yes.exactly
They just wanted a gov job and probably lied to get in his cabinet his real friends like Dana white and Tyson are still with Trump btw
What an American hero John Meacham is
😂😂😂
Had no idea this show existed or that Charles had access to such a megaphone. He's certainly worthy. I plan to tune in.
Meachom, of course, is right on the mark re the election of 1860 and pretty much everything else he spoke on. Thanks for this.
Oh yes. Charles Barkley is known for having his finger on the pulse of politics and the inner workings of Washington D.C. 😂
Imagine Trump in solitary confinement with cell mate Bubba?
Trump's too old and too stinky for Bubba.
He will have the sweat of large black men on his back.
Actually the entire Biden Crime Family belongs in PRISON and you know it
@@trumpisgoingtoprison177 And his nose
These morons think Donny and his secret service is going to prison 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Any time Jon Meacham speaks, I will listen. Thank you
I agree-not 1570, not 1619, not 1776...I hadn't thought about it before but founded in 1965 is a reasonable argument.
Listening to Meacham…I realize how badly the US education has failed the public and nation by not cementing the principles of the US constitution, the history, the struggles to form and more perfect union…otherwise people are swayed by whatever anyone wants to say…
Because republicans insisted on gutting it
Remarkable interview on what democracy means!
Appreciate historical perspective from a historian. More from him, please. Intelligent, articulate, thoughtful, learned. More from people like him.
When people say they're terrified, I say "Good." Because then they will organize and vote.
In other words, we are teetering on the brink of a second civil war.
Im not American but I fear so too. If Trump gets elected without popular vote, so many Dems will be incredible pissed off. If Trump loses, well we have seen what happens.
Vote! When we take both the Senate and the House the President isn't above the law!
Incorrect. All you have to do is look at Trump's first term. It was the Left who caused all the violence.
Yup I said it.@@ducoh2093
It's hard to fathom an actual civil war. I mean, the first one had an obvious cause and objective: states have the right to slavery (and national respect of their "property rights") or they don't. There are cultural and economic aspects, but states seceded so they could have that main thing.
What does MAGA want? What does it gain? Evangelicals want a theocracy but they are a minority and almost half the people on "their side" don't want things run their way. Some want mass deportations, perhaps even of US citizens they don't like.. I just don't see that "one main thing" that they would be willing to give up the next season of Survivor and the next Super Bowl in order to go kill American men, women, and children. I get they are upset. Destroying your own economy and lives in order to.. what?
Not disagreeing with you but I don't get it.
@@ducoh2093if Trump loses, the maga base will get violent
“Back to the Future” screenwriter Bob Gale has revealed that Donald Trump was the inspiration for Marty McFly's arch nemesis Biff Tannen.
LMAO! That fits like a glove. I love it! He called Giv Newsome NewScum several times and I thought what ate you 12???? 🙄🙄🙄
John Meacham is brilliant
Aha! Now I see that Michael Douglas can play John Meacham. Almost same voice too.
The main reason you say people are worried about Biden’s age is because you keep saying we are!
Stop telling us what we think!
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT! I hate it when people put words in my mouth. I can think and speak for myself. I support My President Biden for a 2nd term. I despise Trump. Why doesn't CNN talk about Trump's ties to the Mob as discovered by the Australian authorities in 1986 through 1987 when his bid was turned down to build a casino in Australia. They never cover that!
Excellent interview. More of this please....💙💙💙
What an intelligent yet humble man. I hung on every word. He handled the single focus and aggressive questions like a master.
Al Franken Sir..
Thank you for still supporting and defending this Our Country…
I will wholeheartedly support You if you would Ever Consider Running My Brother!! In any capacity, you can Count on my support for sure!!!
George King and my Family!!!
We
love you Al and always will!
More importantly we NEED YOU BROTHER!!!
Not everybody. I’m not concerned about Biden’s age. Why? Because I have lived long enough to know some people are extremely capable. Like Biden. No president in my lifetime has done so much during 3 years.
John Meacham stated clearly from historical perspective the challenge we face as Americans. Founding a government based on an idea of democracy which boils down to equality is well said. Keeping the idea and propelling it forward is a huge challenge even though the preponderance of what we have to do is vote.
Jon Meacham is a very wise man who understands the value of reading history. Best of luck America, we are rooting for you here in the UK!🇬🇧
"He can't just stand for re-election, you have to run for it." Great statement by Mr. Meacham.
Important to remember that you aren't just voting for a candidate, you are voting for their cabinet, the folks they surround themselves with, the others that they put in charge of policy and implementation. Do you really want Steve Bannon, MTG, Kari Lake, and the Pillow Guy in charge of domestic and foreign policy?? Have we already forgotten Betsy Devos?? Vote Blue!!
Amen Brother!👍👍
Vote ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
U have no idea who Trump would put in this time btw and school choice is popular now btw and other things Trump did etc
Good interview. Always love hearing from a historian to put things into context
It's weird that someone at CNN thought having Charles Barkley talk about something important was a good idea.
We live in such interesting times. Terrifying. But interesting.
I would call this the most boring Presidential election ever. Two octogenarians running as incumbent barely, and both barely able to coherently discuss a legitimate agenda. Super Tuesday was a predetermined snooze fest. But I guess Trump and Biden go to bed at 6:30 pm anyways.
I’d rather boring
STOP harping on his age. Yes, he is old, but he seems to be pretty competent to me.
Have you watched him speak? You do realize the border is wide open, and innocent American citizens are being brutally murdered by these aliens. Yet biden is fighting to keep the border open. It’s called treason.
Even if he isn't, I'd rather have a president who can't think straight than a president who uses his thinking to try fuck over America
Calling on dead ppl and can't find his way off stages etc
Think you this man is so right
How “Back to the Future's” Biff Tannen is based on America's Donald Trump.
Biff is more likeable.
Both bullies. Both bullshit.
@@silverstem2964 Both are weak, too.
Both are cruel, hateful, selfish bullies with a history of cheating
2 coats of wax, not just 1
Meacham's take is refreshingly clear about how 1) you can be legitimately concerned about the main candidates to the point they need to earn your support and 2) voters must ground themselves in the reality of what this election means going forward. Candidates that want to fight for democracy (presumably Biden) vs candidates that treats people like dolls for a leader (presumably the other dude). Candidates that have both said and done controversial things and don't inspire excitement even if they helped do some things people liked. Many are unhappy about this, talk to a counselor or not (your right to do or not), you're not the only one that feels this way! Vote anyways! The alternative is sitting at home on Election Day to sulk like a child.
With age comes wisdom (or dementia); It's about who gets to make judicial appointments, who selects advisors and staffs the cabinet and makes administrative appointments.
Anybody who has a problem with joe and age clearly doesnt understand what you just type. Im voting for who i want to select judges and head of cabinets and that sure aint no con man with 91 indictments. Can you imagine trump getting to pick more supreme court judges. That alone terrifies me
@@narda1072h e appointed 3 judges. Who I assume you only dislike because they're conservative. The court being a 6-3 conversative majority meant that the OSHA vaccine mandate didn't happen. Same thing with Biden trying to make everybody else pay for loan forgiveness. Didn't happen
The reason people are concerned about his age isn't about him being able to do the job, Its About If He Passes Away Before The End Of His Term Is That The First Black Woman Vice President Will Become The Fist Black Woman President
And? Explain more
Thanks Mr Meacham🙏🏽
Trump shouldn’t be allowed to run after what he orchestrated on January 6th. Smh 🤦♂️
Interesting that he says that the country only started after the 1968 election, when it was finally integrated. Food for thought
I’m jealous this Meecham guy has a full head of hair at his age lol. I was balding hard by 25.😂😂😂
Love this show. Ty Gayle & Sir Charles
Love John Meecham too
But it should be that whole TNT crew, Shaq, Kenny Smith, that other guy.
That's what I'm sayin I only clicked cause I saw chuck doin interviews I thought Shaq was gonna come out too
You're on television....shut your phone off!
Terrified and nervous like ❤🎉
Technically, only about 1% of the population is nervous. The rest of us have read it all before or seen it all before, and we know that even with two bad choices, any choice in America is better than no choice in a lot of the world.
Aah and Mike Johnson looks so happy! And he loves Rubles so much!😍😍
So respectfully, Mr. Barkley, if you are worried 'about what might happen in terms of an insurrection like last time' with an intimation that if 45 doesn't get in office that he'll have another insurrection, are you suggesting we should cowtow to a bully and a threat from 45 just to stave off an insurrection??? Oh hell, no...
Amazing all this focus on Biden's age, but nothing about Trump's mental decline, constant gaffes & incoherent ramblings! 🤯
Great talk. Thank you.
Trump cares about money and himself, Biden cares about America and Americans
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A very self-aware Boomer who actually gets it.
May someone save America. With Trump it's going to be worse
No it’s not. Biden is destroying America and will be much better with trump . You have been brain washed by the left.
No it isn’t.
You guys said that in 2016 and he made things better.
Then your guy Biden did all the bad things you told us Trump was gonna do.
@@mhall801facts disagree with you
@@Mr.H-zu1jcthe facts show that Trump improved the country while Biden made it worse.
Meacham really got it: Democracy's not just a form of government, it's a way of how we see and regard each other, in this case as equals in dignity and rights. That's what I've been saying less eloquently for years - tyranny starts in childhood when you regard someone distastefully different as a second class person at best and worthy of persecution at worst. If not defeated, that way of thinking segues into the older ages as bigotries and oppressions of all sorts - in no small part due to the culture allowing that kind of treatment toward the different and those unable to defend themselves.
Why does Gayle talk about Biden like she hasn't seen Trump? This seemed like a interview about Biden.
Charles Barkley is a national treasure.
He's a racist
It makes my skin crawl, it makes my blood simmer (not boil), and I have to stop myself from puking every time that I hear somebody complain about Joe Biden's age, as if Donald Trump is a better alternative then electing an aging Joe Biden. For one thing, Trump is only four years younger than Biden. Also, Biden has a Vice President that is not a complete lunatic - Kamala Harris. I would rather have Kamala Harris as president than Donald Trump. I would rather choose myself as president, then Donald Trump. Donald Trump is a horrible choice for president, and I wish that were just my opinion. That is a worldwide consensus among leaders in Europe and across the Pacific, except for countries run by authoritarian dictators. If you can't see the difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, you have a privilege that many other people don't have. You are also a low information voter, so you need to become a high information voter - end very quickly - or listen to high information voters. I like my presidents without being defendants in criminal trials, not being convicted of fraud in their state of business, and not losing a civil trial where the defendant proved she was sexually assaulted and then slandered by the president. If you're too low information to know which one I'm talking about, that's Donald Trump. Vote Biden or vote stupid. Vote Biden or vote treason. Vote Biden or vote confederate. Vote Biden or vote authoritarian. Clear enough for you?
You lost all credibility when you said Kamala Harris isn't a complete lunatic, have you never heard her speak and do the creepy laugh?
She called Joe Biden a racist on the debate stage then decided to run with him after she got embarrassed during her own campaign.
It's funny when you look at the actual data coming out of the polling stations and elsewhere, the Dems have the vote of privileged people and it's the average American who's now voting more in favor of conservative policies on all levels of government.
Do you not think attacking your political opponent with the Department of Justice is an authoritarian act?
Half the stuff you wrote is simply not supported by any facts or evidence.
A hundred thumbs up from me for this one...
If we allow ourselves to cling with an iron grip to our personal aims and individual gripes, we ignore all the things upon which we agree.
Thank you Jon Meacham!
Very scary time... 1 vote away from Jim Crow Laws being REINSTATED
(I'm Canadian, but ...) how could anybody vote for Trump? How could any woman vote for ANY Republican now for ANY office?
Beats me. I’ve never voted Republican.
We’re going to move to Canada. Lol. I rather like British Columbia. Though Poilievre who is going to be the next pm is obnoxious too.
Hear hear, from a fellow Canadian. Of course you realize that in the next election we are going to vote in Pierre Poilievre. Political stupidity is not reserved just for Americans...
We vote for TRUMP because we enjoy seeing queen justine tremble for thirty seconds before he answers a quesion that might offend our Chief of State. Trump 2024, Trump forever.
Excellent in every way. Thank you. : )
He is the best. We need him today more than ever.
I can’t believe anyone could support trump.
I think that about how anyone could support a dementia patient aka Biden
I read Meacham's 'Thomas Jefferson - The Art Of Power' book. Very good reading. I feel envy of the US knowing that people like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklyn, John Adams and other were at the helm at conceiving this great nation. I wish my country, Brasil, had as great people as that when it proclamed its independence from Portugal.
Thank you charles barkley for being more than a jock
Yes Biden is 81 but did you ever saw Stephen Hawking? Very little vitality but the smartest man in the room. Like Biden said, it’s not how old you are, is how old your ideas are. 😮
I love that Chuck leaned into it "I'm on TV" "Quit calling me"
We’re at the crossroads and we must make a decision, on the one hand we have an aging benevolent president, on the other hand an aging malevolent former president…which one will be your choice?
Wow this is a great new show
I'm sad to see the emphasis by the questioners on Joe Biden's age (which deserves to be a concern) over Trump's desire to institute a fascist dictatorship (which should be to all Americans 1,000 percent more important than Joe Biden's age). The people interviewed in the lead-in to the interview almost unanimously said "losing democracy" was what mattered to them. Yet, that perspective did not make it into this interview. DO BETTER, CNN!!!
Jon Meacham is a gifted orator and a remarkable person who never ceases to bring new ideas and knowledge about his country and its political past to viewers like us half-a-world away from you. Jon, am I right in saying this? Former President Donald John Trump is taking a page out of the LBJ playbook. In 1963 Bobby Baker and Billy Estes were about to sing like canaries if they got jail time unless Johnson could use the DOJ to give them their walking papers and have his criminal background disappear. Experts like Jon Meacham and others on the four corners of the globe all have their own version of the facts, but from what I have read and heard that is one major reason why JFK never made it to re-election. If you look for a motive; you often find the culprit. That said, former President Trump will be over his 91 legal bumps if he wins and he'll be able to use the DOJ---and you can bet that former AG Barr will write another 17-page letter propositioning for the coveted post in Trump's second Administration. I have no credentials like Jon when I say Trump is back on the stump and not running for President to make America Great again, he's running to make himself safe again.
It’s sad when elites wants to blame us for not wanting 2 pathetic choices
Boohoo
Charles Barkley has a current events show?? How do i sign up??
That guy seems very smart and level headed.
Meachem is a very good writer. I really enjoy his books.