Is this the best alternative to the Mazda Atenza? Review of the 2015 Subaru Legacy B4

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024

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  • @TheJoker-qn6vw
    @TheJoker-qn6vw 2 года назад +36

    What an awesome video...this is a car that I admire, its mature looks & design, its symmetrical all wheel drive, it's interior space, it's safety features and its Naturally aspirated(NA) engine (No turbo's for me); it's just a car that works, but that's the thing..."when it works", and it is for this reason that I'd let it remain just that, a car that I admire not one that I will want to own. The Mazda on the other hand, it's simple, I won't touch a diesel turbo especially in Kenya.
    Between the two vehicles, which one would I rather have...well none...what I'd own is a very clean unit of a Mark X.
    The Subaru is a good car but:
    - When they say Subaru's are well built vehicle, there's a price that comes with that, and that price is, "the Cost of genuine Subaru Spare parts." Especially when you said that it shares the same front end with a Subaru Outback (a good vehicle) but the parts...Woi!...EXPENSIVE is an understatement
    (As an example, should a CV joint go bad (which they do eventually) or the rubber boot tears and spills all the grease from the CV joint while at the same time allowing contaminants in, which will lead to the eventual failure of the CV joint and you'll need to replace the whole thing, don't be surprised if it costs you in excess of Ksh 75,000/= to get a whole single unit with its components, genuine Subaru drive shaft, now with the All wheel drive system, there are 4 of them.)
    - The Subaru Eye sight system is a very decent safety feature, but should anything happen to your windscreen, getting a genuine Subaru windscreen compatible with the Eye sight system will dig a hole in your bank account.
    - The Subaru's have been known to suffer from failed steering rack and CVT gearbox (manufacturers design), should either of the two go bad...all the best.
    - Because of the body's well build design, it's all wheel drive system, its engine and safety features, it ends up being a heavier than normal vehicle compared to its competitors, and with the state of the roads in Kenya, don't be too surprised to be replacing some components like Bushes more often (of course depending on how you use the vehicle), Brake pads, Brake discs etc and these parts...well i don't have to explain the cost of genuine ones.
    NB: This is not a post to discourage people from owning a Subaru, Subaru's are very well built vehicles and very sturdy on the roads, making them very good vehicles to be used in the city, long-road trips and even when you go off-road to an extent...they just work, and are very good at it. But to keep it that way, also be ready for what it comes to maintain them. You do that and I doubt if you'll find a reason to complain about that vehicle.
    -Most people get into Subaru ownership without knowing what it really takes, that buying it is only the first step, the journey and how it will end will mainly depend on how you maintain it, that will either make you absolutely hate it or absolutely love it at the end of the journey/day.
    The point is to know what you are getting into, if you decide to own one of these lovely vehicles.
    Good day.

    • @subkinko2371
      @subkinko2371 2 года назад +2

      Wah bro! Hi ni research na nusu🙏🙏🙏👍

    • @josephmwangi3526
      @josephmwangi3526 2 года назад

      All these are based on the myths and misconceptions of the 90s regarding subarus. The parts that are expensive are only for the performance models. Eyesight and windscreen compatibility has never been an issue. Subarus have come to be more reliable these days and replacing parts very often is just a misconception. However, it is a heavy car and thus slow acceleration (For NA)
      and more fuel consumption.

    • @ellykipruto5622
      @ellykipruto5622 2 года назад

      Honest opinions bt still i loves the 2011 and 2012 sh they are yje best subaru forestets for me, because i know nothing about sjg bt so far compared to tiguan cvr xtrail or cx5 for me its the sh especially th s-edition

    • @TheJoker-qn6vw
      @TheJoker-qn6vw 2 года назад

      @@samueln3630 Some things can be googled...This video can explain more:
      ruclips.net/video/b8PrAHeF1BA/видео.html&ab_channel=SubaruCanada

    • @TheJoker-qn6vw
      @TheJoker-qn6vw 2 года назад

      @@ellykipruto5622 They are genuinely good cars.

  • @the-real-rabizzlethedoctor
    @the-real-rabizzlethedoctor 2 года назад +5

    Your reviews have gotten better, I've actually enjoyed watching. Am a Subaru fan 10/10, but I think the Atenza has better aesthetics and the interior is more appealing. This Subaru is so simple though.

  • @muskatafari1208
    @muskatafari1208 2 года назад +21

    The 4th Generation BP/BL remains the best looking legacy so far. Also, as a Subaru diehard and legacy owner, I think, the Atenza looks better and doesn't have a CVT. I'd choose the Atenza petrol.

    • @TheJoker-qn6vw
      @TheJoker-qn6vw 2 года назад

      Cars like lover's are to each one's taste.

    • @delvinowino7881
      @delvinowino7881 2 года назад +1

      Agreed, the BP/BL esp the turbo models look very good. The atenza has more of a sporty look, the legacy is a bit more conservative

    • @neroetal
      @neroetal 2 года назад

      I still have the BP GT model ... Not letting it go anytime soon ...even did a conversion to manual... Very practical car indeed

    • @harrone.9473
      @harrone.9473 2 года назад

      @@neroetal how is it chief I plan on getting one veery soon, sooner than a month

    • @michi.m
      @michi.m 2 года назад

      If this had an option of MT, would go for it. If not, then the option is Atenza. CVTs are pathetic when it comes driving experience

  • @kevgits
    @kevgits 2 года назад +29

    As someone who admires both the Subaru Legacy B4 and the Atenza, this video felt more like an Atenza dis-track than an objective review. For the sake of comparison here are a few facts: Atenza sedan boot space: 484 Ltrs, Legacy: 425 Ltrs. Atenza horsepower: 175, Legacy horsepower: 175. Atenza torque: 420Nm, Legacy torque: 236Nm. The Atenza also has a better sound system, and better looks. Finally, value for money:2015 Atenza is approx 1.6M KES, 2015 Legacy: 2.6M. For me the Legacy beats the Atenza on the AWD system, ground clearance (which can be easily fixed), and NVH score. IMO, these don't justify a 1M price difference. PS: Quoting boot space in actual figures is more informative and accurate than bundling in humans. Do better next time.

    • @kngberry
      @kngberry 2 года назад +5

      We are sorry japanese car manufucturer what is your company called,

    • @lionheart4378
      @lionheart4378 2 года назад +10

      @@kngberry do not post such uncouth answers when you are not posting detailed info to rival his answer. he has given real metric measures which is something one should look for when checking car reviews or interested in buying one especially the boot space, fitting an individual inside cannot give concrete evidence that the boot space is large on face value.

    • @third-worldsociety5540
      @third-worldsociety5540 2 года назад

      Hapo kwa Nms piga research

    • @CARNVERSATIONS
      @CARNVERSATIONS  2 года назад +4

      Here is a proper comparison apples to apples, where as Gitonga is right in some aspects he is sooo wrong in many i.e the price of this car is 2M compared to 2015 Mazda Atenza petrol which is priced at 2M or slightly higher www.thecarconnection.com/car-compare-results/mazda_mazda6_2015-vs-subaru_legacy_2015

    • @martomystery
      @martomystery 2 года назад +3

      Hapo kwa price ni kama uliquote price ya axela not atenza.

  • @johnstonmutio3118
    @johnstonmutio3118 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good review Erick with a CK. Now this is the car I will own.

  • @josephkinyaika2547
    @josephkinyaika2547 2 года назад +4

    Another difference between this and Mazda is that this shape will remain relevant for a long time, unlike the Atenza whose good looks will be outshined sooner

  • @josephkinyaika2547
    @josephkinyaika2547 2 года назад +1

    That introduction is lit bro, waaah!!! Moto, I like your shows kabisaa, I can count on you for car purchasing decisions

  • @ayub3102
    @ayub3102 2 года назад +1

    One of my favorite Subaru models that I would love to own one day.

  • @anthonymuiruri992
    @anthonymuiruri992 2 года назад

    Aje aje Erico ,again content is amazing
    Alafu si you do for us a drum swap to disc episode, tuta appreciate especially sisi watu wa ma 90's jdm.
    Kama kuna wengine ebu pepeta hi ask

  • @frednganga3178
    @frednganga3178 2 года назад +1

    I love your reviews I have learned alot. I was waiting for this review because I was planning to buy this vehicle. Now I'll go for it

    • @EvansKipngetich-he6js
      @EvansKipngetich-he6js Год назад

      Hello Fred, perhaps I'm at this exact spot you were in 3 months ago. Just to ask, how are you finding your car, if you did go ahead and make a purchase? How is the performance of the CVT option? Is it something worth going for? Thanks!

  • @x150adventures3
    @x150adventures3 2 года назад +2

    The cartoon appearing on recent episodes, I highly suspect it's Mbugua's Idea😂😂

  • @ndegwamugo9304
    @ndegwamugo9304 2 года назад +2

    Good car. My dream car Subaru is the Outback. Tall and rugged

  • @eyan_eugene
    @eyan_eugene 2 года назад

    Most practical Car Reviewer so far in Ke East Africa .....KUDOS

  • @ondari90
    @ondari90 2 года назад +2

    You guys should look for a less-busier road to do the 0-100 test... for your own safety.

  • @mukamayowabu232
    @mukamayowabu232 Год назад

    Well done. Liked the review..actually loved.

  • @gichingawainaina8899
    @gichingawainaina8899 2 года назад +4

    Awesome... please try to be using luggage as well, than the human aspect, I believe you would get to know the actual capacity of luggage it can carry i.e. any boot etc.would accommodate, thank you, grate show

    • @CARNVERSATIONS
      @CARNVERSATIONS  2 года назад

      Well noted

    • @martomystery
      @martomystery 2 года назад +2

      Mbugua is the PSI unit.Ata luggage ikitumiwa lazima Mbugua awekwe for reference and authenticity 😃

  • @djkayzie816
    @djkayzie816 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for helping me decide between the two.

    • @CARNVERSATIONS
      @CARNVERSATIONS  2 года назад +1

      You welcome and thank you for watching

  • @marklivos
    @marklivos 2 года назад +5

    I love both Mazda & Subaru. For that money I would get the Mazda

    • @CARNVERSATIONS
      @CARNVERSATIONS  2 года назад

      With the love for both I think it boils down to preference

  • @carlben4560
    @carlben4560 2 года назад +3

    Erick. The Atenza's interior design beats the legacy's design hands down

  • @paulwambugu2861
    @paulwambugu2861 2 года назад +3

    Still prefer the 2008 bl5 turbo/NA manual 2l with half door.

  • @sammybaraka5362
    @sammybaraka5362 2 года назад +2

    Atenza any day and twice on a sunday.

  • @smartpixafricatv9547
    @smartpixafricatv9547 2 года назад +1

    Maybe next thing be telling us the most genuine and affordable car yards to buy these cars.

  • @kj5566
    @kj5566 2 года назад +3

    Erick with CK can one change the gearbox to an automatic version of it?

  • @mahlonmeli1663
    @mahlonmeli1663 Год назад +2

    I would go for Mazda Atenza considering the fact that is cheaper than the subaru and the fuel economy is affordable unlike the subaru..Atenza is a performance car and the aggressive look is insane .Considering it is a 7 speed transmission and the sound quality Bose speakers for the finest music .The subaru might have won over the Atenza on the all wheel drive and speed . Also it might have a higher power than the Atenza but that doesnt justify the higher price and higher cost of maintainance of the subaru. The Atenza equiped with the kodo design language and the classic interior is undisputable.Atenza all the way....For better clarification watch the mazda Atenza review by Wokabi in carnversation
    As for me ...Atenza is the game changer ....

    • @erastuskobia8414
      @erastuskobia8414 Год назад

      Atenza it is!. Wokabi can be biased sometimes!. With excellent reviews though!..

  • @michi.m
    @michi.m 2 года назад

    This car is on point.
    Wokabi kuna zenye ziko na manual gearbox

  • @davismichubu3357
    @davismichubu3357 2 года назад +1

    hey can you please do a review on subaru impreza wrx s4 2015 model and can you recommend on a first time car buyer?

  • @AbrahamOnyancha
    @AbrahamOnyancha 2 года назад +2

    I'll go for a 2.5l petrol Mazda Atenza/6 anyday

  • @eyeshezzy
    @eyeshezzy 2 года назад +3

    I still cry for the Subaru Legacy Wagon 😅... That shape

  • @kevinochieng9072
    @kevinochieng9072 2 года назад

    Apart from this carnversations series..bro you should be a news presenter

  • @magellanedgar4133
    @magellanedgar4133 9 месяцев назад

    How many kilometers to the liter? HP na Torque pia. And can I get one with an automatic transmission other than the CVT?

  • @AlbertRabidzi
    @AlbertRabidzi 2 года назад +2

    1. Great content ever since you got 100K subs. Good job.
    2. Camera work still needs work. we need to see what you are talking about for example the cruise control section.
    3. Graphics: Please work on them. the editor anatuangusha kidogo.

    • @CARNVERSATIONS
      @CARNVERSATIONS  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for the input, comments well received we shall keep on improving and becoming better

    • @AlbertRabidzi
      @AlbertRabidzi 2 года назад

      @@CARNVERSATIONS
      I have a simple request; I know you receive so many of them but would you mind reviewing the Toyota Fortuner new model?

  • @LuideMulumba
    @LuideMulumba 2 года назад

    Good review as always. So kwa machache ni nyama ya Levorg 😂

  • @Dankioko
    @Dankioko 2 года назад +1

    You change your cvt fluid at 70k kms as per the manual not 40 as you've stated.

  • @Mr.joshua19
    @Mr.joshua19 2 года назад +4

    I will go for the Subaru 10times✌️✌️✌️✌️💯

  • @masasiization
    @masasiization 8 месяцев назад

    I would definitely by this Subaru any day

  • @briannealdnight6059
    @briannealdnight6059 2 года назад +1

    You didn't mention the mark x , how do you feel about it.

  • @ambrosekimenju8410
    @ambrosekimenju8410 Год назад

    hey.good review...I dint hear you talk about fuel consumption. How many kilometers to the liter

  • @kellyegesa5152
    @kellyegesa5152 2 года назад +1

    This basically shows how much value for money the skyline is esp the 2.5 and 3.5

    • @TheJoker-qn6vw
      @TheJoker-qn6vw 2 года назад

      They don't have gearbox issues, especially the cvt ones?

  • @mutahimuugi5065
    @mutahimuugi5065 2 года назад

    Hao watu wako back seat hatuwaskii!! video safi kama kawa

  • @ernestmugo1765
    @ernestmugo1765 2 года назад +1

    You can get a professional timing gear for the speed tests

  • @eDENTECHNOCYBERHUB
    @eDENTECHNOCYBERHUB 2 года назад

    I WATCHED THIS ALLURING EPISODE ON 27/08/2022

  • @ignatiuskipchirchir7386
    @ignatiuskipchirchir7386 2 года назад +2

    Erick with a CK jambo

  • @nyamburamutafhi5160
    @nyamburamutafhi5160 Месяц назад

    What is the fuel consumption?

  • @kabelwasalim6305
    @kabelwasalim6305 2 месяца назад

    For a non turbo 13.03 is not bad

  • @derriqqerik
    @derriqqerik 2 года назад

    Great content 👍 Does it require an aftermarket transmission oil cooler

    • @CARNVERSATIONS
      @CARNVERSATIONS  2 года назад +1

      Not this one, you good to go from the set go

  • @Mr.joshua19
    @Mr.joshua19 2 года назад +1

    Erick can you do review on 2017double cabin please

  • @Githinji_the1
    @Githinji_the1 2 года назад

    Ona vile hao maboyz wamekaa vizuri hapo nyuma? Gari safi hii.

  • @unique_nailsparadisenkr7388
    @unique_nailsparadisenkr7388 2 года назад

    I LIKE A CAR THAT SHOUTS, THE ONE YOUR CALLING IMMATURE SO AM STILL GOOD FOR THE MAZDAS😉

  • @theindiefolkmusicchannel
    @theindiefolkmusicchannel Год назад +1

    Great review, just watching this now. What's the fuel economy like ? For mixed driving that is.

  • @theophilusmunyao2068
    @theophilusmunyao2068 2 года назад

    Can you do a video on landcruiser tour van conversion and possibly the costs involved..

  • @bajong_254
    @bajong_254 2 года назад +2

    I prefer the Subaru 💪💪

  • @WycliffeOoko
    @WycliffeOoko Год назад

    I had thought of this car before going for Toyota rush

  • @nicolaskurgat3458
    @nicolaskurgat3458 2 года назад +2

    Mazda Atenzas zilikuwa tu zimetulia hazijasumbua mtu :) ....... Wokabi bana

    • @IamJemoh
      @IamJemoh 2 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @fxstreetprofits
    @fxstreetprofits Год назад

    Would you compare this to a 2012 E240 Mercedes?

  • @johnsammy3198
    @johnsammy3198 2 года назад +1

    Still waiting for the legacy bm9/ bmm review

  • @roberttshilidzijhbberea9501
    @roberttshilidzijhbberea9501 2 года назад +1

    You must also try my car Volvo850 t5 I've seen your s40 on the last videos

  • @felixmugambi9058
    @felixmugambi9058 2 года назад

    These car is wow,I love it more than atenza

  • @Nya-e5m
    @Nya-e5m 2 года назад

    Subaru b4,toyota crown athlete and toyota mark X,which one should i get? Citing reasons please advise

    • @sottygodffrey4726
      @sottygodffrey4726 Год назад

      Crown is the epitome of luxury... The two are not even comparable to it

  • @kimmiekay.
    @kimmiekay. 2 года назад

    In the next review please bring us a toyota fielder

  • @ronaldronyarinde1499
    @ronaldronyarinde1499 Год назад

    You didnt comment on fuel consumption comparison in depth,

  • @jackimmutethia8768
    @jackimmutethia8768 2 года назад

    My love for Subaru's 😊

  • @thomasondu207
    @thomasondu207 2 года назад

    I always watch u but ii video iko kiburi sana kuhusu mazda atenza

  • @eliudmaina865
    @eliudmaina865 2 года назад +2

    This has to be the only review on your channel that i completely disagree with...atenza is much more premium spec for spec, only aspect the subaru triumphs is symmetrical awd and eyesight for safety...otherwise its a slow and lethargic car you have to work the socks out that engine to get anything out of it and almost every competitor is faster and more fuel efficient

    • @CARNVERSATIONS
      @CARNVERSATIONS  2 года назад +2

      You have a point my brother, having driven both in all honesty the legacy has a bit more over the Atenza but they are both equally awesome cars

  • @mateimasiku6564
    @mateimasiku6564 2 года назад

    Kindly review the 2005 L3 Atenza

  • @user-sw6vf8tt1f
    @user-sw6vf8tt1f 2 месяца назад

    Wats the price

  • @sammwangi8473
    @sammwangi8473 2 года назад +1

    this car is super cool.. mine is exactly the same.. apart from the rims and leather seats

    • @LinksCrestMade
      @LinksCrestMade Год назад

      Is it a really good car and how do you deal with the said CVT issues?
      Might be an first time owner soon so would love to hear your perspective

  • @sammymudome8639
    @sammymudome8639 2 года назад

    22:30 shades 😃😃 it was 350hp vs 210hp

  • @jmmwangi1
    @jmmwangi1 2 года назад

    Thanks for this. I think my mind is made up now.

  • @stephenkimani1620
    @stephenkimani1620 2 года назад

    kindly review subaru forester SG5

  • @robertkatina
    @robertkatina 2 года назад +1

    Nice review.My Levorg performance seems way better coz of the 1.6 DIT engine. Safety features are great.
    The lineartronic CVT is reliable though gives a monotonous ride,something to accept with time

  • @frankmwenda8878
    @frankmwenda8878 2 года назад +1

    Kama sio dual exhaust, I can't touch.

  • @beatsbezstudios254
    @beatsbezstudios254 2 года назад

    I love Subarus🔥🔥🔥

  • @neroetal
    @neroetal 2 года назад

    Those guys stuffed in that boot can reach yurop

  • @gwethenock3105
    @gwethenock3105 Год назад

    Wokabi akisemanga wengine hawaezi argue😂😂

  • @brianmwirigi200
    @brianmwirigi200 2 года назад

    My only problem with Subaru cars is fuel consumption.Only that.Compare with the very economical Mazdas fuel consumption.

    • @moejaytvthetopten1608
      @moejaytvthetopten1608 2 года назад +1

      Modern subaru are fuel efficient especially from 2016

    • @thomasondu207
      @thomasondu207 2 года назад

      @@moejaytvthetopten1608 subaru 2016 is not common in kenyan market as it make higher in price during shipping

    • @moejaytvthetopten1608
      @moejaytvthetopten1608 2 года назад

      @@thomasondu207 shipping doesn't make them expensive it's the tax system

  • @loverntheking
    @loverntheking 2 года назад

    Also be telling us the market price sir

  • @vokstheboss
    @vokstheboss 2 года назад

    Is it available on a station wagon?

    • @mwendae.3015
      @mwendae.3015 2 года назад

      I believe there is a station wagon version.

  • @eddieke7053
    @eddieke7053 2 года назад +1

    You know to irk me, how's it possible to compare a Subaru to a maazdaa how!?? Wewe wacha! Subaru are superior built machines ...

  • @wanyoikealbert9210
    @wanyoikealbert9210 2 года назад

    What is its fuel consumption (Km/L)

    • @moejaytvthetopten1608
      @moejaytvthetopten1608 2 года назад +2

      It can achieve upto 14.5km/l depending on your driving habbits. A good improvement compared to the previous generations

    • @wanyoikealbert9210
      @wanyoikealbert9210 2 года назад

      @@moejaytvthetopten1608 wow thanks

  • @samueln3630
    @samueln3630 2 года назад

    I think it's better...more practical.

  • @joejunior3340
    @joejunior3340 2 года назад

    Wokabi..you are shifting na ni CVT? Wewe ni mwongo

  • @sammymudome8639
    @sammymudome8639 2 года назад

    It was nyamwad , atiii what ,i see you 🤭🙂😂😂😂

  • @carlben4560
    @carlben4560 2 года назад +1

    😂mnatetea hiyo gari sana. 13 seconds is slow
    It is what it is...

  • @mwatondoAJ
    @mwatondoAJ 2 года назад +1

    Great content. I love both cars, but the Atenza is simpler. Why not review both cars side to side?
    Alafu the camera and scenery bana

  • @roberttshilidzijhbberea9501
    @roberttshilidzijhbberea9501 2 года назад

    Oolah..I've seen you guys there you have so many subaru..do you have the industrial for subaru there..?

  • @felixmursoi9611
    @felixmursoi9611 2 года назад

    Way better than Atenza 🔥🔥

  • @williamndichu5955
    @williamndichu5955 Год назад

    Erick subaru exiga and crosover7

  • @kelvinmutegi2218
    @kelvinmutegi2218 2 года назад

    the boot space is uweh!

  • @joseaurorah
    @joseaurorah 2 года назад

    Barber wa Mbugua na Baba wanaoverwork

  • @klausc5088
    @klausc5088 Год назад

    Features of the car

  • @Irungu_Ian
    @Irungu_Ian 2 года назад

    Ambieni mbugua arudishe nywele😂😂

  • @aginai2170
    @aginai2170 2 года назад +1

    Ama io boot space ndo inafanya makarao wapende izi gari😂

  • @felixmaingi3421
    @felixmaingi3421 2 года назад

    2.5 petrol atenza anyday.

  • @mihadi.c7689
    @mihadi.c7689 2 года назад

    Mbugua analoose weight buana😂

  • @hezborn
    @hezborn 2 года назад

    Usirudie hii mchezo... don't compare Atenza to subru ever again...tutakupiga ngoto

  • @ronardmacharia9435
    @ronardmacharia9435 2 года назад

    I see a fLassallian alumni making it

  • @ellykipruto5622
    @ellykipruto5622 2 года назад

    The only problem in this car is fuel, consumption ist abit high

  • @empireglobaldevelopers3225
    @empireglobaldevelopers3225 2 года назад +1

    Am bigger than your nganga and i think i can also fit

  • @Manu-rl1pd
    @Manu-rl1pd 2 года назад +1

    You cannot compare atenza with subaru b4. Its way above the mazdas league

    • @stephenmaina7193
      @stephenmaina7193 2 года назад +1

      says who?

    • @XtremeK
      @XtremeK 2 года назад +1

      Haha Atenza is way better

    • @nairobicars
      @nairobicars 2 года назад

      With a Cvt?😀Mazda is so far ahead. This one should be compared to premio🤣🤣

    • @third-worldsociety5540
      @third-worldsociety5540 2 года назад

      True the wrx 2015 is 🔥🔥

    • @XtremeK
      @XtremeK 2 года назад

      @@third-worldsociety5540 RX-8 entered the chat😈

  • @neroetal
    @neroetal 2 года назад

    7...juu ya 0-100..ISA noo