How To Social Engineer INTJs (The Ranger) | Cognitive Functions | CS Joseph
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- CS Joseph discusses how to social engineer INTJs (The Ranger) using cognitive functions.
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So... if you're an INTJ, continue to trust nobody - _especially_ ENTPs. 👌
Yea, that bitter 'Im false and don't care lets screw everyone' tirade somewhere before 25'' really scared me, I have watched a few of this guys vids and never seen that before. Mask off for only us INTJ hmm? Maybe you should keep it on.
That’s the message I got from this
Thanks for taking the mask off, ENTP, and for being candid.
@@orbitalneptune8890 he says around 32:00 he's doing this for the greater good. Ask yourself why post any of his videos if it weren't for this very purpose. Stop being afraid just because C. S. Joseph hacked your mind
😂😂 Was just thinking the same thing
How to social engineer INTJs:
Don't
Yeah, let our paranoia do that
@@gardeniac.3782 Am i correct in my assumption, that INTJs makes more damage to them self, like procrastination, paranoia than anyone else would ever be able bring upon them?
@@kaspervendler1726
... you literally just defined my life
As an INTJ I now no longer trust you hahah
As an INTJ myself I concord he is so resentful of the INTJ girl that burned him is almost pathetic. I reckoned he stopped the car minutes after this video and he cried.
@@Epyon2007 As an INTJ it sounds like you're projecting your own resentment onto him because of INTJs can have trouble deeply empathising and feeling. And yes as an INTJ I'm also probably trying to intellectually 1-up you (lol).
@TheDrjules With Epyon2007's comment I learned more about the cynical nature of INTJs and probably opened the blinkers into my own cynicism/pessimism! It is a positive thing :)
As an INTJ, I don’t care
@@Sam-by3kk nah I sense this youtubers has some underlying prejudice towards them . He talks about intjs arrogantly and almost with a tainted perspective, not objectively.
"This road is fun"
Proceeds to list 15 ways he nearly died on said road.
🤣
When the video started, my husband said, "Oh. He's driving. He really is an expert at this stuff."
that is such a Te thing to say lol
And they say the INTJ paranoia is a bad thing....
Man, she broke his heart.
I hope she sees this video bro.
hahaha this is a really good bitter video 🤣🤣
Lol
@Jonathan Bowen don’t laugh it hapoens
@@scouttrooperhh-1487 why?
Looking forward to learning how to social engineer INTPs so they shower and perform other basic life skills.
Maybe he can tell us how we could manipulate ourselves into action 🤞
LOl
lmao that's too true
I mean, he did mention it during his INTP video (like near the middle where I am sure everyone pays the most attention).
I'm not, it's going to be such a long video, because there are sooo many ways to manipulate us it's not even funny.
dude you are really really burned over that INTJ chick.
it happens
He talks about her all the time! 😆
Chase, I am currently in the long haul with my INTJ wife. Sixteen years of marriage between an INTJ and INTP. The war has been fierce! 🤣
@@carletouk INTJs are very loyal but can let the past ruin the future!
@@carletouk I noticed INTJs do recognize patterns but they tend to be focused on negative patterns. This can cause them to freeze up in the present due to making associations about the past and falsely applying these patterns to future predicted outcomes. This can screw them in the end and burn relationships.
Samuel i believe it my last 6 year relationship was with an intp
How to know you are an ENTP: Driving while giving a 1 hour speech :)
preach
@@CSJoseph I really admire your work. I am ENTP myself, and being this honest is like coming out of the closet.
Love your content dude, have been obsessed with the Myers lately.
Lesson: keep on not trusting anyone even even if they try to cook you in the long game. Pretend you trust if you feel like a mask. And when they fail you, don’t even confront them. Otherwise, run away.
Lmaoooo u chicken
I think we're susceptible to the "ego stroke" because we're not flatterers, so we don't expect anyone to flatter us either, making us more likely to believe we've earned those compliments.
well said! this is the best comment for who triggered CSJ episode 3 so far!
Cosmic Dancer I’ve definitely come to that conclusion as well
Oh, I do compliment people, because I learned they trust you and like you afterwards, and since we need all the help in social situations, that was my solution. But yes, I'll only trust a compliment if it comes from a person that has my trust already
Yes but this only works once. So only on young INTJs. And we can see right through fake flattery with the slightest levels of maturity.
Oh I will ALWAYS enjoy a good compliment, fake/manipulation or not. But don't for a second believe you've got me fooled. ;-)
Keep up the INTJ bashing. I’m INTJ and the truth is a necessary demon we gotta face, but everyone wants to be comforted with information that parallels their reality and we never get what we need. Keep it up brotha you’re crushing it 👊
Actually, it makes me feel good. It boosts my ego.
Fi absolutely IS about mood. All my life, I couldn't understand why some people were so moody/dictated by their moods when logic would suffice...and then I discovered depth psychology (and Fi parent lol). Thank you Chase for helping us protect our INTJs from being socially engineered. INTJs: if it's not you that's the problem in the workplace (but rather a rigid, unhealthy SJ or an immature, bullying SP who tries to pile on the work last minute or ruin your reputation), call on your INTP or ENTP coworker to help you out at during a time crunch. My INTJ coworker and I are pure f***ing magic together in the workplace.
Nice trap.
Call your entp? That's literally what this video warns about.
jk
OMG, the MOST moody person I have ever known was an ENTP. He was ridiculous, like a baby at times and the man was 34 years old! And he acted that way AT WORK! SMH... But I must say, on his good days, we are amazing together! Too bad those days are so far apart. His Ti keeps him locked in his office or running around who knows where most days.
@@hfortenberry haha, my sister is an ENFP. She is a very emotionally driven person which is a n adjustment sometimes for out family because my mom is ENTJ (bordering INTJ) my dad is ISTJ and I'm INTJ. Highschool next year for her is going to be very interesting
Dude.. this guy must have had an INTJ always outdoing him as a child or something.
I think it was the girlfriend. She must have really showed him pepper.
Yeah I think so too, he really seems to dislike INTJ's
😅
Lmao
@@Rasheens-Story ironic since it's supposed to be his most compatible type
The paranoia vice in INTJ’s is a robust shield against social engineering. When they get threatened by social engineers, paranoia becomes a virtue.
Watching this makes me think that he was dumped by an INTJ who saw through his BS.....he seems so annoyed that INTJs are hard to manipulate lol
ikr
Bingo!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for making us stronger.
My attitude is that if you push me towards something that you think is a weakness then I will turn that perceived weakness into a strength.
A mastermind INTJ 🏋️♀️
By perceived weakness do you imply that there is a chance that It actually isn't a weakness and only seems that way?
I think, keep your falsely (some %) perceived (perceived by others) weakness as they are so whoever tries to exploit it just ends up wasting their time.
Ofc, need to know what others have seen (harder part) as a weakness in you and out of that then turning which is beneficial.
Yash Malviya It is, possibly, a weakness/es or, at least, how people perceive you, or think of you. What I am trying to say that once they give us tools pointing at our weaknesses and how to break us down then we become stronger. Same time what they think is a weakness, in fact just our choice to avoid negative atmosphere, people, work environment, abuse, manipulation etc
I personally like mental and physical health. I always strive to develop new healthy habits and skills, and surround myself with healthy people. But if someone points at my true weaknesses then I will work hard to make it my strength, so I can be well developed as a person. Poor muscle-hard work-strong muscle. Poor mentality-hard work-unbreakable mentality. Even if they think that they broke me down, it does not mean that I broke down. I will use it as a step up. Also, I like typology, but I would not allow it to squeeze me into someone’s patterns or program my brain. We are programmers of our life and choices. Sorry, if I over complicate my answer 🤓
@@skyjumpandbraveatheart, whoa that's a lot of commas. I felt like you were giving me a more detailed description of what you said in your previous comment. I got the message you were trying to convey when I read your main comment. I believe in a somewhat similar philosophy.
Maybe I was unclear with my comment.
To simply put it I just meant turning every weakness that others think an individual has is not necessarily beneficial.
As an INTJ, this seems mean. Why would someone want to DELIBERATELY hurt someone?
why would anybody?
@N Cooper because people enjoy feeding on your marrows(using the example of giving up intellectual properties). ENTJs will automatically assume people have bad intentions. INTJs are generally slightly more optimistic about that.
You would hurt someone when they are an obstacle on your way to success. Thats the way I see it
I feel like this, what you have said, is the most misunderstood trait about INTJs. They are NOT MALICIOUS. They are the most authentic, genuine type of all. They can’t help it if they are also the most intelligent. They have deep sensitivity and an incredibly profound understanding of emotions, and motives. I love them. -INFJ
Most of us would not. Most INTJs just want to make the world a better place for everyone.
As an INTJ I am always extra aware of when people are being too praising toward me. And I would not open up to someone unless they open up to me and give me info that could put themselves at risk themselves. I often observed that people who are too forward with praise or loyalty are the first ones to break away. But that might just be because my past experiences
INTJ's should use their intuition wisely.
Yes. This is why I like both criticism and compliments. I know the highlights of what's good so I can do it again later and what's wrong so I can improve.
What about receiving criticism and praise at the same time. "I like what you did here but I would change what you did over here?"
@@miamihurricane555 I would appreciate that as a sign of nuanced critical thinking.
An eye for detail paired with a basic knowledge of formal communication is a HUGE plus in my book, lmao
I am very well aware that many people actually expect me to open up to them, but never open up to me. Lol
This guy is real messed up over an intj 😂 haha
You can't "social engineer" us. We allow ourselves at times to go along with you but it's based on probabilities (ie - there is a chance what you have to offer might be of benefit). You might think your manipulation is working... but we are aware of it and going with the flow because sometimes that is required for progress.
Exactly !
EXACTLY!
no further west Brilliant!!!
Hahahahahah sure, as an intj I've been either blindsided and manipulated despite believing I had everything covered. It's hard, but it can happen; to destroy a threat you must acknowledge it. Either way, kudos to you
@@cj3954 Sure it can happen, but you're not going to maintain a friendship or relationship with anyone who accomplishes it. They become a lifetime enemy.
Hey there, as an INTJ I am grateful for videos like these and my life experiences for showcasing my flaws and then relating them to failure in the past due to pride, procrastination and either being guillable, paranoid. I was wrong, and that is the best part. Thank you for the content, for completing with pain, they are great teachers. Fellow INTJs, use your gifts and be more humble, for pride comes before destruction and I know you are prideful if you have not yet been destroyed. Be thankful, be humble and keep on your journey, I'm sure you'll make it.
I trust my INTJ and my INTJ trusts me
Can't believe these are all free. You're amazing, Chase. Keep em coming.
Don’t give him any ideas lol
...but give him appreciation and a good experience. He needs it.
Sign up to his patreon
I really love how you made a video about one of the most paranoid types and open with how someone could ruin their life.
I can confirm when you try to take down INTJs from a job, they'll sense it, and before you dig their grave, you'll be digging your own.
I will see you, I probably already have dirt on you because I didn't trust you to begin with and I am not scared to cut you off before you get the chance to make me look bad...ps i procrastinate because I can and im a master of working well under pressure...so keep trying love but your asking for trouble when you point out your intentions are negative...know your definitely on my list!
I had someone try something like the "pile on at last moment" thing and I 'hot-potato-ed" it onto them and it exploded in their face.
Had I failed, I would not have left due to pride I would have potentially stayed just out of vengeance.
Failing THAT, then I might leave looking for a less high maintenance and more independent option.
Its really not so much about social status for me, except as a tool for something else.
The way to put it would be that I am sensitive to social status as a marker for whether or not I am truthfully meeting my own goals. If I am not feeling like I am meeting my own ideals, which "ought to be so compelling and stunning that others would recognize it", then THAT frustrates me immensely.
Don’t burn an INTJ. They’ll probably calculate your demise.
Oh I did that all the time as a kid. I had trouble working though my emotions so I would imagine violence as a way to try and quantify it..... yeah that wasn't a consistent system. Its sound bad but it helped me take a step back and then look over my feelings later instead of blowing up. I do still calculate the violence and demise but it's mostly out of curiosity of what could happen as that fascinates me.
TLDR; I was an emotional child that didn't really understand their feelings and currently enjoys contemplating the possibilities of life
“Keep the criticism coming”
“I cannot stand the constant criticism I get from INTJs”
it certainly helps when they verify their beliefs and thus their opinion becomes much more valuable.
Cus its usually wrong lmao
@@CSJoseph That's true, i noticed i come up with information that i have no idea where it came from but once i find it i get mad i was challenged.
Weeeeeelll, you may THINK you are using a long con on an INTJ but I promise you that we are holding back what we know, at least that's how I have always been. I see through ENTP manipulations "of the heart" on a daily basis. You guys are so funny. You are so obviously manipulative which I find it amusing and quite entertaining. It's so cute. Because I am Ni dom, I will just sit back and observe you trying to "con" me or others and I will be amused and curious about the techniques you attempt and will take mental notes, even at times trying to keep a smile from showing. I will never let on that I see you though. I don't feel paranoid by you doing it because know you can't get to me. I'm too aware that you are up to something and I'll put safeguards in place to protect myself if your intent is malicious. You said Ne can absorb Ni but you can only absorb the Ni that we share with you. There is a lot more going on under the surface than you realize. You have no idea.
Okay, I just watched the rest of the video with the example of the INTJ giving up the algorythm. I guess some INTJs are susceptible. But to me it's so obvious when the ENTPs I know are brown-nosing. I have a coworker on my team at work and he and I have worked closely together for 5 years and I would not trust him as far as I could throw him. Many of my other colleagues have my trust but not him. I've seen how he works. We actually get along very well and work together very well but I see his compliments and brown-nosing for what it is and I don't take it to heart when he praises me. I smile big and thank him for it so he probably thinks he's softened me up but he hasn't. I am always suspicious of him because I know his motives are very selfish and he has no qualms about breaking with moral behavior. There is no way I would give him (or anyone else for that matter except my wife or parents) anything of great value to me such as a proprietary piece of intellectual property. I CAN see younger INTJs being susceptible to this ego-stroking though. It's true that we do love to be told how smart we are. I probably might have been susceptible to it when I was younger. But being older, I have much broader perspective and keen awareness and my intuition is rock solid. And I no longer need approval from others now that I've attained an internal sense of self-worth. I don't care what others think of me anymore. I am on a personal mission at this point in my life and I compete with myself.
Yes, I am very cute and I know it. Cannot stop the cute. #thedopestisthecutest
@@CSJoseph Yes, y'all are cute. That is true.
I am a INTJ and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. But if they do anything or try anything I will never trust them again and I will try to destroy them.
"You said Ne can absorb Ni but you can only absorb the Ni that we share with you. There is a lot more going on under the surface than you realize. You have no idea."
this part is extremely accurate and it applies with any introverted function, it's why the introverted functions are always better than the extroverted ones because they are the "Sources".
@Aubrey I will ask an ESFJ or ENFJ to try this. using their Fe dom to attract the Fi child, I think the outcome will be better. IF... these ethic freaks agree to do so at the first place.
Does the fact that INTJs are hard to social engineer have to do with why I feel I have a good “BS radar” so to speak?
More accurate on the feel than the accuracy of the BS radar typically.
yes
@Jerusalem Basurto-Soto
xD
Sometimes we allow manipulators to think they are in control, when really we are sick of their presence and subversion and will allow them to think they are in control whilst covertly directing them out of our lives. Manipulators tend not to like losing, and if you force them away they will fight to get back in - let them think it is their choice - currently enjoying the benefits of having done this myself recently!
as an I Intj I had this battle with an Entj, I admire her cleverness but she was not that clever, I just let her have it and let her hear what she wanted to hear. eventually I got out of the sticky situation by giving her the illusion of control. props that I knew it was the only way out.
Very true.
@@lydia-jamillah3548 I had a more or less alike experience, but with an ESTP. I didn't let him think he was on the control all the time though, only when it would benefit me somehow.
@@alemon9727 ESTPs are classic bullies and extremely quick on their feet in the Se moment, but fortunately not very long sighted and all that context aware. It's usually not all that challenging to disarm those bullying plumbers and pool cleaners if you plan well. Never fall for the Se-Fe frame.
I had a friend who i knew would take „revenge“ on me if i broke up the friendship (he was a huge narcissist) so what i did was consistently frustrate him for 2 weeks straight until he burst and called me names. I reeeeally overreacted and acted like i was hurt and now he thinks hes the bad person. (This was necessary because he had some stuff to hold against me)
Pfff and i thought i was an ISTP back then LMAO i dont think an ISTP would do that
Most books with twists don’t impress me very much because my paranoia helps me predict them quite easily..once in a blue moon ,a book comes by that blows my mind 🤷♀️
Finally someone else says what I think about books. I hate reading fiction because I always guess the ending....and that is SO boring!
What are these books that blew your mind?? You're right, endings are usually very predictable. I'm like that with movies and TV episodes too.
Makes me highly picky with films too
When I was an insecure 20 something (INTJ to the best of my knowledge) I told a good friend of mine that I didn't trust him, he replied with don't trust me, see me (I think my friend is probably an ENFJ). That definitely helped me feel more comfortable in the relationship because it meant I didn't have to try to seek constant comfort and reassurance, instead I started to take responsibility for my own past gullibility knowing that I had been abused. Most importantly I learned that it's on me to keep better track of what I want out of people and to make sure that my expectations are in line with what my own eyes are telling me about X person. Alright now to do those dishes that I've been putting off.
Skeldrif when someone doesn’t trust, I want to find out why, because there is usually a very good reason for this. I never tell anyone to trust me. I wouldn’t want anyone telling me to trust them. They can’t know the depth of my reasons anymore than I can know the depth of theirs, but I can try, and I do think trust is highly overrated. There are degrees of trust, and they are different for different people. If you don’t trust, then maybe you shouldn’t trust. Maybe the internal guidance system we are born with has some merit. If we listen, it might lead is exactly where we belong. Don’t try so hard, anyone, to “trust”. Let trust come to you in the amount and in the time it is meant to, to the degree that your internal guidance system dictates. Don’t listen to self help gurus, or any therapist who tells you that you have trust “issues”. It makes you appear to be off track in some way, when you probably aren’t. Now, if you are schizophrenic, this is a physiological medical issue. As is bipolar. And depression depending on the severity. But in general, if a person has been raped, witnessed a murder, been to war, or survived incest, they shouldn’t trust what they know to be true about the depth of misery that humans can inflict on one another. But they also must actively seek the opposite experience, as a means of healing. The trust necessary for each individual to live a fulfilling life will come. In whatever amount is necessary for that specific person.
That's a beautiful insight @skeldrif.
Here is what your video was like. 12, 123, 1234, 12345. (You kept starting over)
I am a starter type
90% sure am an INTJ
Finals tomorrow.
Watching this video. Procrastination.
Well don't make me feel bad plz.
I was about to say the same thing...
Nobody hates you, they dont care about you enough to hate you.
I'm an INTJ and now that i know this gaps in my personality, i will let my paranoia dominate me to decrease the chances of manipulation hahaha
Don’t. I’m an Intp, and it’s entertaining, but annoying. I do agree with being a machine though.
I got the same plan from this.
LOL, you crack me up. What was with the detour into firefighters. LOL, true to the ENTP. Gotta love you guys. But anyway, I know you are conflicted about receiving criticism because first you asked for it and then you got upset and said you hate it. But okay, you asked for it. You said you need criticism. You say that sometimes you have to shame people to help them grow but I wholeheartedly disagree. The way you speak to someone, tone of voice, choice of words, matters. It communicates whether or not you really see the whole person and whether you respect them or not. There is great value and maturity in saying things in a way that is beneficial and caring rather than hurtful. You build trust with people when you stop assuming they are idiots and questioning their motives and instead giving them the benefit of the doubt that they DO want to grow and respecting them. Most people are actually doing the best they can and it's overkill and overly harsh and destroys trust to think you have to tear them down to help them people grow. Contrary to the cliche, you don't have to be brutal to be honest. In fact "brutal honesty" is not really honest. It is very one-sided, seeing only the negative when in fact most people are basically good. Your philosophy is a very lazy way of thinking about it. I have watched some pretty brilliant people pull great growth from others without shaming them. It takes skill though.
ENTPs have a difficult time with this because you have Ti parent (so you think you are right) and Fe child. The reason brutal honesty does not work as well as kindness is because brutal honestly makes the assumption that the person is intentionally doing whatever it is that you think they are doing wrong. Brutal honesty is inherently underestimating of others. When you approach someone with the assumption that underestimates them, then you are not seeing the whole person but instead seeing just a negative side to them. That is YOUR flaw. I challenge your assertion that it is fake to see the good in people. It is actually dishonest to come at someone with an automatic underestimation of them because an honest perspective would see both the good and the bad in them. You are smarter than this Mr. Joseph. I challenge you to rethink your philosophy. Delve a bit deeper into human psychology. It's not fake to see the good in people. It is there if you are willing to see it.
okay, the audience on my last livestream asked me to debate you live. So let's do it, it would be fun. email me at chase@csjoseph.life if you want to have some fun. You can tell anyone on my the stream just how bad we are for kicks.
@@CSJoseph That is flattering but no thank you. You know we INTJs do better with the written word because it allows our introverted intuition time to reflect, while you ENTPs do better with the spoken word. That would not be a fair match-up. ;-)
I was laughing outloud and asking, outloud to myself, “what are you talking about, dude? Feminism and firefighters? Okay. Gotcha. Whatevs.” It is funny, and slightly endearing as it reveals his flighty nature, and his earnestness all together in one strange lump.
Aubrey don’t sell yourself short, girlfriend, you know how to give as good as you get verbally, as well as via the written word, you just use your “T” and ignore the “F”. And you just pick and choose when, it isn’t a matter of “if”. Please, do it, do it for all the introverts...just realized this is a year old. Shit.
Aubrey holy shit, Aubs ma Gobs, I completely agree. There is no place for shame or humiliation in society. It’s fine to feel “ashamed” because it teaches you what you do not want to feel, ever again, and thus, you will most likely avoid whatever it was that you did which caused you to feel ashamed. But shame is bullying, elitist, and exploitive. I was a professor, and I remember as a student, and as a professor, students telling me about some asshole faculty member, and all the shit this particular faculty member pulled, and then following it up with “bit I learned more from that professor than I did from anyone else that semester”. I had this response “No you didn’t. You would have learned a ton more from that professor had they treated you with respect and had an ounce of humility. If you say this, I fear you say this to justify your suffering in some way, so that you don’t feel that it was a waste, but it was. A waste. And it had nothing to do with you. People can objectively be assholes. This was an asshole called a “professor” who exploited the inherent vulnerability a student must have in order to learn. They should be ashamed of themselves and they should be held accountable for their actions. You do not need to justify this treatment for any reason, it is far better to accept that this was a complete waste of your time and only caused you needless pain so that, in the future, you vet your faculty very thoroughly, so as to prevent any future waste of your valuable time.” I said this every single time. And I wish more people would do the same. And this is why I left academia for a while. Hypocrisy and unchecked corruption galore.
My dad(istj) got me the 'Art of Deception' when I was a young gullible INTJ. It blew my mind. Why people did things suddenly snapped into place.
If I ever figure out someone did this to me (made me lose my job), that ESFP sub isn’t coming out to make jokes, it’s coming out to kick that ass. I don’t play when it comes to my money making abilities.
What specifically would you do?
I'm an INTJ female, I can take all of what you said and absorb the information because it's necesary to improve. I'm into a lot of mind manipulation, NLP, dark psychology and the likes, it helps when you're playing a metaphorical chess game. So thanks for sharing all this info with us
As a harmonizing INTJ who just discovered all this like 30 hours of research ago, I need so much help🤦♂️
Thanks for telling me all these tricks that people can use to destroy me. I'll watch out for these and beat them at their own game later :D
This is so very true. 90% of my problems in life stem from my own procrastination. Also, being introverted + underdeveloped social skills has led me to avoid engaging socially on many occasions, thereby letting lots of opportunities pass me by as a result.
This might sound silly to an extroverted starting type like ENFP, but it is so painfully true. I can easily conquer everything else in life, yet the things I mentioned above trip me up regularly; certainly the achilles heel for this intj.
You need to work in being a good person first and foremost. Then all that manipulative stuff won't be so important to you. Best wishes, INTJ woman
are you saying you are a good person? are you saying you don't need to put in similar work?
10:26 I just realized the reason why, for so long, I heavily believe that "Information" can be very dangerous. It's because I keep noticing that some people can easily be swayed with new information brought up to them, that sometimes, I refrain from talking about something to someone, especially sensitive people, that might influence their decisions or actions, if I want to be helpful. It's questionable but, as an INTJ, I find it scary myself that I can be manipulative.
Edit: ENTPs are cool. My best friend is one. I feel like we can dominate the world. LOL
This is why I refused to watch the other social engineering videos, but decided to watch mine for security purposes.
Yeah, I too feel like I am naturally manipulative but I don't try to be and def don't want to be. I just seem to have the effect on people. Maybe a better term would be "influence" rather than manipulation.
Similar situation happened to me at work, where a guy tried to take me down... he was the one who got fired... so yes, you can try, but you better count your own risk because we won’t go down without swinging. Employers don’t like to let go of high performance employees. I suggest more creative ways :)
The experience was just annoying.
Regardless of type:
“Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.”
Proverbs 26:27 KJV” 😌
Yeah, I was in a situation like that once. The ENTP was behaving poorly with me and he almost got his ass fired. Our boss was an ISFJ and she loved me. I loved her too. She saw right through his smoke and mirrors and didn't like it one bit.
'Er, I'm sorry, but I need criticism' yet 'I really hate this criticism I get from INTJ women'?
As an Istp I normally wouldn't click on this video about Intjs. But I cracked up when I saw the thumbnail so I had to watch the vid. You lecturing us while driving with a big ass whiteboard on the passengers seat, that's blocking half your side window is just hilarious. No fucks given, things need to be done no matter what👌
preach it!
My dad is and INTJ and he used to be a con artist. I'm an INTJ and so is my daughter 🤣 INTJ are very revengeful as well so play at your own risk,😏 main take away never fully trust anyone my fellow INTJ's & always assume anyone being too nice is trying to get something
. . .or you could just ask God who to trust. -INTJ
General Patton -INFJ
I like how so obviously hurt he is by this intj woman. This social engineering lesson is honestly just a big gripe over his breakup
and yet it doesn't change from the facts I speak
@@CSJoseph that's fair. Still a good video. I just found your comments funny
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As an INTJ, I find your videos very informative and insightful. I appreciate the examples you put in and the sincerity that comes through your words. However, it really taxes on my patience to have to listen through the over-justification and rants that you subject your audience to. It mostly feels like you're talking to your psychologist instead of addressing an audience of strangers.
You continuously reiterate how you deliver the truth and that it may offend some some people. However, a simple disclaimer would suffice. the repetitious nature of your words comes off as admonishing, like an angry preacher who has lost his sermon notes and keeps beating the congregation over the head with the exact same notions.
Weed it out a bit and keep up the amazing research.
Waiting for INTP social engineering so I can manipulate myself to be more social.
This does not increase my paranoia as I see many comments saying this has for them (hopefully in jest). I am already aware manipulators exist. I am very aware of my paranoid inclinations and have taken great strides to avoid giving in to it as to avoid burning the innocent. If negative patterns are found, it is best not to jump on that. Rather, think harder and you'll likely find more scenarios which can also fit an incomplete puzzle. If something feels off, it likely is, but consider the consequences of what happens next. I say, treat things at face value, while keeping an eye on what's happening until you have something more concrete to act on than your own thoughts. If/when you do find they are indeed not innocent, by all means roast them.
...Also, don't give someone information that can destroy you, simply because they are nice. Some things are to be kept secret, even if you think you can trust someone. If it is not pertinent information, it doesn't need to be shared. Keep your ego in check.
All true.
Me, now: Decide what you're willing to sacrifice in the eventuality of betrayal and protect the rest from everyone. Paranoid mode on.
Speaking seriously - thank you for pointing out those flaws, I learned a lot about myself.
Sometimes when I try to understand a person’s motives I play a little game. I assume the worst. What’s the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do?
I'm just going to become a hermit(intj)
@@ChronoLegionarius INTJ here. I LOVE permaculture!!
Try raw carnivore and dont give a fuck (no joke).
I'm already a hermit. It's a good plan.
INTJ Agronomist here, it was my plan all along xD
@@Sebastian-wm5es yum
I can speak from experience that the older you get the less you put yourself in other peoples hands. I won't ever put myself in vulnerability, ever, I always protect myself because I know people can lie. I learned this at work, I learned this at school, and in business. I whole heartedly trust anybody as long its not with my life. If my future is in tangled then I sure as hell will not trust anybody but myself.
"Just because they are a mastermind doesn't mean that their mind cannot be mastered" C.S Joseph
I lmao 😂😂😂
Okay, FIRST of all, an ENTP lecturing an INTJ about procrastination is hilarious! You guys are the worst at that. LOL OMG, you guys procrastinate and avoid your work like the plague and then when you are finally FORCED to do some work, you guys LOVE to pile work on other people and then you try to take the credit for it. But everyone sees through you doing that, ya know. But regarding the work style, yeah, you are right that I do prefer my tasks to be spread out in smaller chunks. I can get analysis paralysis if I get too much piled on at one time. But I have learned to deal with that by just breaking things up into smaller chunks on my own and then holding people accountable for not sending me their stuff in a timely manner. Not my problem. The way I see it, a lack of planning on your part does not justify and emergency on my part.
#triggered!
true that but I still like setting people up for failure if they deserve it.
@@CSJoseph If you say so. ;-)
@@CSJoseph That is so wrong. My child Fi is trying to teach your child Fe that manipulating people in this way is not moral, C.S.
I find the phrase “…if they deserve it” disturbing. I know of no logical framework that justifies vengeance, only post hoc reasoning for destructive, emotional decision making. Distasteful.
These studies are fascinating, but only unto moving beyond them and ego altogether.
As an INTJ, I've been waiting for this one forever! Thank you, you were super on point about everything, especially the in the moment hacking that can happen due to Se inferior, but i gotta say, I've only ever experienced being Se hacked by ENFJ friends who are always looking out for me and helping me to try new things and get out of my comfort zone, so only been hacked positively, I love it. But at least now I can show this to my few close friends to explain to them why it's been working so well all these years! Thanks again, please keep these coming.
I have been waiting for this vid for a long time too.
Can getting you out of your comfort zone really be considered social engineering?
Do you think you made yourself prepared to experience something new or got pushed into it by your friend?
Does it harm you in any way while benefiting your friend?
Hacked positively? Don't you think the experience that you stated is forcefully morphed into the topic here?
I don't mean question you in a presumptuous way. I just don't understand why you see it like this.
Can you make a series on... “how NOT to be social engendered by an ENFP” for instance
lol
C.S. Joseph does that mean noooo?
Asking for a friend 🤣
LOL
Marry one and you’ll learn 😂
I'm definitely an INTJ, but I definitely don't procrastinate. I prefer to get all my work done as soon as possible, that way if I happen to make a mistake, I have time to fix it. My paranoia, and performance anxiety motivate nearly everything I do.
Wow, you must think we INTJ are really N00B or have really low self esteem! Alright you might get me in love here, I do, but in business I know the old very trade rules. The golden rule is to let people in, let them see a lot, let them learn and help you, but never EVER give away the key component, the hidden 5% trick that makes it all work and hang together. The bit you built it all on that others don't have. Never give it to anyone unless you are ready to leave the business. EVER!
"I AM this science." - CSJ
This is a great one that I was waiting to hear. So much resonates, bro.
They're all great, but this one is therapeutic.
It tells me I'm finally doing something right.
Careful of the battery levels...they'll get you every time.
He doesn't even bother with enneagram.
I love this pragmatism CSJ !!!!
Are you sure you were with INTJs, because I feel like a real INTJ will recognize someone being "manipulative" but will react in a way as to allow the manipulator to believe they're in control of the situation.
they dont always
These social engineering videos are more useful to those who are the type that is being talked about in the video. Thank you for making us more wary and prepared for such scenarios :) Also, it's always good to have in mind that the way someone speaks and what they talk about is a clear indication of their intentions and persona, so be careful Joseph.
its not actually. There exists people who can be truly neutral, do not throw out the baby with the bathwater. I am chaotic neutral.
I think it does make sense what he says, you are just not aware of it. But he is and I think I know why. Intp.
Intj and infj can smell who and when they are about to be manipulated and they can detect the unusual pattern and stay on guard...
Unless their Ne nemesis is jumping to conclusions which is more common than you think
ikr?? its funny to me when someone is trying to "act" pleasant to manipulate me.
Whether you can manipulate an INTJ seems less important than whether you should. Anyone that has ever intentionally crossed me made it to my shit list and its my priority to make them regret it. You want to talk about long haul, I've spent years getting revenge.
My wife is an INTJ, listening to what she puts call centre phone staff through is excruciating, the demands to know what went wrong and why, when and who will sort it ,and going so deep,wanting to know timelines,thought process of others ,etc etc. I want to hug and hold the poor person at the other end of the phone and tell them it’s Ok,and it will soon be over. I don’t want the refund or our problem to be solved.The pain is too great.
i love learning how to socially engineer myself
What can be easily ignored, OVERTIME, and CONSISTENCY. If true intentions are slipped once, all of it goes out the window.
51:23 is when INFPs got PTSD
lol, I was just gonna comment that I respect Chase's insights but I object to the whole concept of social engineering. I can't even listen to this
@@appletree6898 its also for recognising when you or someone close to you is getting social engineered by a potentially harmful person. And when ypu have to get through to someone you care about for their good
Hahahahaha
The story about the sabotage of an INTJ's business ideas was eerily true, this happened to me a few months ago, BUT, guess what? the joke's on him, cause I have proofs and I documented some of the stuff so I can fight back. And implement my ideas in another way. Mwahahaaa, don't underestimate the INTJ's determination and intuition. No one can see further than the INTJ. Mwahahaaaa :))))
Yeah, I keep a journal of shitty things people do to me when I have to be around them (like in a work setting). Everything gets documented. And I make sure to tell a trusted person. I also earn the trust of upper management so when I go to them, I am believed.
Hey Chase, you should make a season on how each type sees others of it's type. As an INTJ I can't stand other INTJs due to cognitive redundancy. I think it would be really cool to have INTJ vs INTJ, ESTJ vs ESTJ etc.
sure
When you're so paranoid you dont believe that you can not be ego hacked. It goes on and on
I too, am paranoid.
When I worked in government & corporate intelligence I was asked if I could teach what I know & do. I said I could teach people like me, (not really knowing what that meant as far as personality type), but I can't teach just anyone. Because you need to be naturally curious, naturally paranoid, dont believe in coincidences, won't stop until its figured out or done & understand why something might've happened & be right 90% of the time (being modest). They thought I was an arrogant asshole, but I'm not, I'm just confident & great at what I do.
Regarding a short con on an INTJ, I don't think it's really possible, with me at least. You mentioned getting us to make an impulsive decision and while it is true that we WILL make decisions that appear to be impulsive, they are actually quickly calculated. It's not because we are being conned. I am highly aware when I'm being conned. But I'll often go along with it anyway simply out of curiosity or for fun. I am not offended by someone trying to con me because I can see what they are doing and I feel more powerful than they do so I don't have any resistance to them doing it. In fact, I'll play dumb and let them get away with it at times. Also, when it comes to making an impulsive decision to buy something for example, I am well-aware if I'm being manipulated but I'll often make the purchase anyway due to the desire to please my inferior Se. It's more about satisfying that pleasure. The manipulation just so happens to be going on at the same time but is not what is motivating me. I often make the decision to give in to my Se whether someone is trying to manipulate me or not.
U say INTJ may appear impulsive but decisions are quickly calculated. What I find more fascinating is that ppl can't comprehend how often our "impulsive" decisions were actually decided years ago when we thought of a hypothetical or saw something happen to someone else & thought deeply about what we would do if we ever got into that situation. So when the situation comes we are instantly ready. Maybe we decided 5 yrs ago what our decision would be in this moment haha.
@@andreagreenwood93 EXACTLY! We see SO MANY things coming around the bend way ahead of others. By the time we pull the trigger, it's been on our mind for a long time.
I just imagined you in a trial accused of murder 20 years from now saying it was self defense and the prosecution presenting your personality test results as evidence of premeditation.
@@mariobros7834 Your comment reminds me of a long debate I had with someone from the U.K. about how you can't have any kind of weapon there (on your person or in your house) with the intent to defend yourself because the very fact that you "intend" to defend yourself means it was premeditated. The only way self-defense is acceptable there (so he said) was if it is purely based on instinct. I don't know if this has something to do with me being an INTJ but I was absolutely disgusted with that mentality, from a philosophical standpoint.
@@andreagreenwood93 to me it is very clear that when the world goes mad, the only people who stay sane are those whose validation is internal, like us and unlike most people. You know that protecting the criminals by denying law-abiding citizens the right to defend themselves is wrong no matter how many "specialists", politicians, lawyers and general idiots claim otherwise. In fact, this is why most sigma males and females which have a problem with stupid/malicious authority/conformity are INTJ. And also why democracy is the first step to slavery.
you can never be careful enough, this world is full or unseen forces that might control your thoughts without you knowing it, try your best to stay awake and objective, not letting emotions take over, or your brain to dictate everything you do, balance is the secret, i personally believe that with heart and mind fully activated you can avoid 90% of social engineering tactics/manipulation.
thanks again Joseph for sharing this knowledge, you made me stronger then i have ever been, a step closer to perfection and its a long way that is filled with challenges.
I have never seen anyone actually drive with a whiteboard and make a video too. As an INTJ, I find this extremely efficient.
I'm waiting for the day I see it strapped in with the seat belt.
Takes some skill, for sure. I expect to see it fall forward, but his turning and braking must be skill level: expert.
For the INTJs that now distrust CS here is some logic that will help you feel better:
• CS is transparently showing you your blind spots, your weak spots = Some volume of CS’s trustworthiness is established.
• CS is laying out the entire formula showing HOW you can be manipulated = Some more volume of CS’s trustworthiness is established.
• CS is gifting you the awareness of the hidden holes in the walls around your castle = now you are AWARE when someone is trying to enter through those holes into your “secret”, precious inner sanctum of feelings and “vulnerabilities” and can STOP the invader = Some more volume of CS’s trustworthiness is established.
• Fact: Chances you will be manipulated by CE: 1) CS likely doesn’t know you, 2) likely won’t ever meet you, 3) and even on the tiny probability chance he meets you he likely doesn’t have enough time to manipulate you, 4) and even if he has enough time to manipulate you he likely wouldn’t because there is likely no impetus/gain for him to do so - more likely a loss (a waste of his time), 5) and even if he successfully manipulated you what he “takes” from you is likely something insignificant like tripping you up - “😱oh no, the world has stopped!” Now multiply all 5 of those low statistical probabilities = an even LOWER probability CS will manipulate you. A future outcome with a statistical probability of 0.0000000011 is realistically = a 0% chance it will happen.
= Check your paranoia. Check your fear. It’s irrational. Also, thank him. He fucking gave you a huge needed gift.
For those learning this skill who are FI/TI blind, please get Essential Philosophy by Stefan Molyneux on Amazon; it’s free on Kindle.
In that book, it discusses Universally Preferable Behavior, a Rational Proof of Secular Ethics.
CSJ always does an amazing job explaining this stuff but I fear what will happen when the wrong person gets a hold of this information and uses it for evil purposes. Please act ethically for the sake of humanity’s future!
Thank you again CSJ ❤️🙏🏼
much appreciated
ESTP: Don't manipulate them.... SHOOT'em. Let's see how immune they are to Se bullets ;)
This actually makes me fear you a little bit, and kind of makes my paranoia worse too.
Crushing an INTJ at work is a little bit more complicated then you described it, though. If we love our job we will Ni our way through any challenge you give us. If you want to try it's important that the tasks you give the INTJ is unimportant, makes no sense to do, is boring, but still takes some time and effort to finish. And the most important thing is that the task should have been done by somone else, INTJ:s HATE doing other peoples shitty work! I have a ESTJ colleague that regularly asks me to do small tasks, that takes longer for her to explain to me than to just do her self, because she's "too stressed out". It annoys the hell out of me, especially knowing we have the same amount of work to get done and that the only reason she can't handle hers is because she have to ask the boss before making any decision because she "just has to know that it's ok". I'm actually surprised by how bad my performance is when doing her tasks...
I can relate to you -- and I actually think this is a good idea. It would get the INTJ, or most people, to quit. No one wants to do menial tasks that someone else should be doing.
Great lesson.This just teaches me to social type everyone and afterwards, never trust ENTPs . Would just lead the ENTPs astray into a systematic trap. Thanks for encouraging us to check consistently.
36:45 again, you absolutely hit the nail on the head. There have been certain types of people in my life (before I discovered information about personality types) where they have tricked and used me. When I would reflect later to understand how the hell these people got under my radar so easily, the answer was always either they took a VERY long time to reveal their true intentions, and if it was done quickly, it was because they elevated my status or gave me access to something I couldn't previously get and I became blindsided.
When i was younger I definitely thought i was immune to manipulation because if how easy it was to manipulate others, especially those much older than me.. until i found myself in a very toxic relationship with a narcissist that lasted 7 years, the worst part was i was more afraid/embarrassed to come to the reality that the relationship was a failure rather than leaving it. Finally did, stick up for yourself INTJs
Exactly why I tell people not to augment my pride; exactly why I also do my very best to tame down my pride. Indeed, I have a tendency to be on my high horse and it is a constant battle (every second) for me to humble myself. I am getting better at it.
I'm an INTJ women new to your content and i get a real kick out of your straight forward ways.
Until you get offended by me… which looks inevitable these days lol
This reminds me of John Wick 3 where every INTJ's hunt down C.S. Joseph lmao i will get Popcorn for that video.
Best comedy channel on RUclips. 👏🏼
You are so right about INTJs being paranoid, yet weirdly gullible. My INTJ husband will be skeptical about everything... unless the exact same information is coming from a source that he trusts. That could be his dad or brother, or it could be a podcast that he loves. Also, yeah he's a major procrastinator (as am I... which basically means we often get nothing done lol).
it happens
As an INTJ I really appreaciate the remarkable evil ways to defeat an INTJ within the system, its now on my list of shitty stuff to be aware in case shit start smelling, and stop it before shit happens.
56:50, it ends up Intj deliberately leave the social group once for all. But the group lost a possibility that potentially improve the life quality overall. And intj ends up drop into ni-fi loop and then healing themselves with esfjs or infps. If it's possible for Intj purposefully decrease selfentitlement, self importance in the social group, become healthy and provide the values intj perserves. That would be beneficial for both parties, isn't it.
Entps always think were right due to Ti, but as I'm learning especially with intjs to except them and respect their boundaries and appreciate this type,
They can help entps grow with compassion.. they are way way softer deep inside then a entp.
They can help us with what we value, appreciate what we really want as we arent always so sure, we need validation from society..
Intjs really truly are lovely humanitarian people.
My biggest point of conflict with INTJs was with insensitively scrutinizing their desires. They seem to get upset about me undermining the things that make them feel good, it's quite unreasonable in my opinion. ~INTP
@raven you should not be allowed to post this comment. Hahahhaha
dont stop
I personally like when INTPs do this with me :' )
True indeed that INTJ’s are the most, or at least one of the most trusting types. This is why they often develop a sense of paranoia and bleakness as an unconscious defensive mechanism against their overly trusting nature
As a INTJ woman i sense so much hostility outta this video 😂😂😂
and yet everything I say is true
@@CSJoseph fine but stop teaching ppl howtta make me lose my job jesus christ
@@CyanXu Stay focused on your goal, and the distraction won't work. I would get this guy fired so fast trying that strategy.
I met an INTJ that I like a lot last week and now you uploaded it and I'm so thankful
Be honest and consistent
Good luck
In all honesty, why do you believe spreading methods to exploit personality types is ethical? Is it because you believe the education of it will be used more for types to protect themselves than for exploiters to exploit? If so, the video is not phrased in such a way that addresses the type for protection, rather than the exploitee to exploit. Of course every social interaction is social manipulation in a way, but there is a difference between consciously and unconsciously going about it in a vampirish kind of way. Just an INTJ trying to help with ethics here, when you feel you are 'being science' as you aptly put it, ethics is also a big part of science 😎
Something to think about carefully I reckon. It's a powerful tool you are sharing here.
I most show the true measure of evil so that the true measure of good can exist. It is merely logical which eventually leads to ethics. Otherwise, due to Big Magic (Ne, aka collective unconscious) someone else will figure this out and begin actual exploitation. As a result, no one would be able to defend themselves sin a reality where I have not spoken. The ends justify the means, friend.
@@CSJoseph I understand and respect the perspective. Perhaps it'd be nice to hear the protective measures as well as the true measure of evil as to provide balance and more utility to the videos. Even still, appreciate you man! Good stuff
Yeah, i see these videos as useful for being aware of how you might be manipulated. Unfortunately though, there is no intp video for intps like me, probably because we can't be manipulated, since our bs radar is very strong and we are generally very emotionally detached in our view of everything.
There's no infp video either. But surely people that emotional can be easily manipulated, no? Am i underestimating them?
@@xynx1211 there is now! It just aired
@@xdawnxangelx thanks for telling me, I'll check it out
Terrifying. I got duped like this, it ruined my life.