@@seeharvester u have to think about everything beneath the water be so far i believe 5hey have done a Fantastic job 8 though it would have taken longer just to remove the pieces of bridge but GOD is on thier side & I believe the last 2 workers will also be found ! All I can say is I send my thoughts and prayers to Baltimore 🙏💖✝️💖🙏
Waiting until insurance companies "sort it out" could take a decade or more. Congress needs to front the money for rebuilding now. Ban the ship's owner and operator from US ports until restitution is made.
@@ttss5726 This doesn't just affect Baltimore, it's a port. Did you know all Mercedes, VW, BMW, and more import their cars here? Those cars now have to be taken to NY, and then auto trained back to Baltimore to be certified. Places like Norfolk are taking the over flow. You know, we just sent billions overseas, we can do it for a US bridge used by US citizens.
The bridge is in Baltimore but it's part of the Interstate Highway System. It's not Baltimore's bridge, as some of the more...MAGA...commentators have suggested.
It's because in the US basic infrastructure maintenance is poorly funded. Crisis funding is easier to get, because it lets politicians to present themselves as saviors.
because there is less than a 1% chance they can be struck back when they were built, ships were smaller back then and maintenance was kept up, vs now nothing gets fixed right, no training, massive ships going 2 to 3 times faster than they are supposed to.
I've seen numbers from 3000-4000 thousand tonnes to 30000 thousands tonnes. Most likely the first one is ballpark for the parts that rest on the ship's bow and the latter for all the collapsed material. Much of the mass is from the crumbled concrete and asphalt from the deck and the shattered pillars.
@@JariJuslin I think more like 50,000(?) tons of steel and who knows how much concrete and asphalt? Divided by 1100. Times X days. I think we are going to be here awhile. I'll go ice down the beer. You get out the lawn chairs.
Of course, I am not in a position to know all the facts, but from what I have seen so far, I think it is the joint fault of both the bridge designers and the ship's owner. A bridge should be able take some pretty hefty impacts from a ship. The Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco has some massive concrete pillars at the base protecting the steel work.
@@ryder6070 No it's not. Baltimore Scrap Metal is the largest in the area. They don't have 1000 ton cranes, and they don't have any experience here, the USACE does. There's still bodies in the water, and you don't want any more.
Liability should in fact apply to the state for their failure to include collision protection in the original design. Just look at the barriers surrounding the hydro towers in the river. The bridge would still be standing if it had similar protection. The workers would still be alive and life and shipping in Baltimore would still be going on as normal. The engineers who designed and the state officials who signed off on the bridge all have blood on their hands.
Um, the bridge was built in 1972, 52 years ago (I did the math for you, didn't think it was in your skill set) so not only do those people have blood on their hands but I expect most of them are already quite dead. After 9/11 it was discussed to put up protective bollards but it was deemed too expensive---you know how everyone wants the government to do all this stuff but then they whine like crazy about paying for it? Yeah, that thing.
@@vintagelady1 Same thing with people in CA wanting the electric utility to bury all high voltage power lines in fire prone areas, UNTIL THE STATE SAID THE UTILITY CAN RAISE RATES TO PAY FOR IT. Now they are all crying and screaming. But the customers were all for suing the utility company. Burying the lines means the utility will not be sued in the future.
@@vintagelady1 well since insults are the order of the day why dont you just go ahead and change your handle there since you are NO lady. and Vintage is just another word for OLD. And while we are on the subject I am as certain as you that many if not most of the engineers and government officials responsible for this mess are already rotting there are still plenty of corporations and government bureaus to shoulder the blame.
Because they don't want to. Thats how insurance companies work. Pay out the least amount possible. In this case, thats 44 million. But, litigation will go on from a long time and the bridge needs to built now.
The most used port on east coast. Busy busy port. Hire a Japanese firm to remove and rebuild ... they would have it opened in 6mths. Here 5billion+ 4yrs maybe 5yrs after posturing for political gain. Oh yeah and money. How sad
How about making the parties who decided to dredge the channel for bigger ships than the bridge was designed for pay for it? The port did not just magically start getting bigger ships than before, someone modified it to accept them to make more money.
@@dfirth224 Maryland has paid many billions in federal port duty collected the past several centuries. If Maryland has to pay for this bridge, forget about the country collecting any import/export duty from Maryland. Ever.
Ok good! 3 1/2 weeks and $30 million Fed money later, and I'm very glad they're just getting started now! ... (Get crackin' govt and contractors. This makes us look very stupid in a county we can accomplish anything! ..)
I wonder where all the money we pay in taxes in Maryland has gone for "Rainy day" and infrastructure. Funny how they need to 'lobby' for the Feds to fund it...
Because this involves transport, the Feds are involved. And the rainy day fund wouldn't cover this. Look, we just sent 66 billion overseas, so using it here is a good thing.
@@BTman58 And it will be. A group of Black legislators want to call it the Mitchell bridge, so that's what will likely happen. Typically, city residents wouldn't ever use this bridge. I get that they're upset all the sudden about Francis Scott Key, But if if were up to me, it would be named after the location, or something like Memorial Bridge, or Harbor Bridge.
Yeah right, like Trump and Republicans are really interested in solving any of America's problems! The Republican party especially with Trump is total dysfunctional! Good try troll!!
Yep, he could send Don Jr & Eric out there with Melania to get that job done. Probably need Jared & Ivanka too, to make the grifting...I mean, lifting got faster, & Jared could use his amazingly absent diplomacy skills to get Mexico to pay for it.
The ship is sitting on a gas line with 1000;s of tons of steel bridge work on it. Also the forward containers are all filled with hazardous cargo, many are already crushed. Zero visibility underwater , strong currents and the ship is sitting on the bottom. You have no idea how dangerous it is to move a heavy load under ideal conditions never mind the conditions they are working under.
Damn why didn’t anyone else think of that? Just remove all the crap on the ship and river bed! Makes ya wonder what they’ve been doing this whole time, huh!
@@rona4960 Yes I was a chief operating engineer and was involved with a lot of heavy lifting including under water lifts and inside water tanks and subterranean work.
There is no way they will stay with the old design. 1) It doesn't meet modern standards with respect to redundancy of load paths. 2) Since we don't build bridges like this anymore, the savings making this best choice in the 1970s don't apply anymore. 3) There is pretty much no group involved in the selection process that won't want a more expensive bridge. Taxpayers or insurance companies won't get a vote. The new bridge will be prettier with more capacity.
@nakedluck - Good question.....Most likely they will go with a Suspension Bridge that will be up to date standards better quality and can hold more Capacity. Suspension bridges are more reliable and as technology advances they probably wont go with the old design. So yes they will bring in the top Architects and engineers to build the New key bridge that will off course have Dolphins guard barriers.
@@thedarkage187 I suspect that it will be a cable-stayed bridge. The span will probably be sufficient that a ship will run aground before contacting the islands around the piers.
Two seconds of showing the bridge; four minutes of talking heads.
As usual !
That`s about it,,,,and tomorrow we`ll see the same video with different people talking
There is a reason tv watchers are the most dumbed down people on the planet.
The worker's have done a Fantastic job so far Baltimore u got this 🙏✝️🙏😇s ❤
I wouldn't call it "fantastic".
Fantastic would be if the channel was now clear.
@@seeharvester u have to think about everything beneath the water be so far i believe 5hey have done a Fantastic job 8 though it would have taken longer just to remove the pieces of bridge but GOD is on thier side & I believe the last 2 workers will also be found ! All I can say is I send my thoughts and prayers to Baltimore 🙏💖✝️💖🙏
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Waiting until insurance companies "sort it out" could take a decade or more.
Congress needs to front the money for rebuilding now.
Ban the ship's owner and operator from US ports until restitution is made.
wrong.... Baltimore needs to front the money and handle their own issues
Ban all ships from all US waterways that have unprotected bridge supports until all bridges are properly protected from malfunctioning ships
And the countries we ban will do the same to our cargo ships,,so where does it end ???
Can't we sent too much of our dollars to foreign nations and constant warring.
@@ttss5726 This doesn't just affect Baltimore, it's a port. Did you know all Mercedes, VW, BMW, and more import their cars here? Those cars now have to be taken to NY, and then auto trained back to Baltimore to be certified. Places like Norfolk are taking the over flow. You know, we just sent billions overseas, we can do it for a US bridge used by US citizens.
Those are some breathtaking shots, WJZ. I'm glad I'm on terra firma.
Avoidable accident.
All accidents are avoidable.
@@1972Ray so what?
This doesn't just affect Baltimore, it affects the whole country. They are making great progress. Baltimore could not do this themselves.
The bridge is in Baltimore but it's part of the Interstate Highway System. It's not Baltimore's bridge, as some of the more...MAGA...commentators have suggested.
Big jobs for everyone!!!❤❤❤
What I don't understand is why these very important bridges are so poorly protected against collisions.
Especially in a major Shipping Channel
It's because in the US basic infrastructure maintenance is poorly funded. Crisis funding is easier to get, because it lets politicians to present themselves as saviors.
Because screwups get passed along to the American taxpayer.
@@philiphorner31 you are so right.
because there is less than a 1% chance they can be struck back when they were built, ships were smaller back then and maintenance was kept up, vs now nothing gets fixed right, no training, massive ships going 2 to 3 times faster than they are supposed to.
1100 tons in 3 weeks.
Does anyone know the total weight of the collapsed part of the bridge?
I've seen numbers from 3000-4000 thousand tonnes to 30000 thousands tonnes. Most likely the first one is ballpark for the parts that rest on the ship's bow and the latter for all the collapsed material. Much of the mass is from the crumbled concrete and asphalt from the deck and the shattered pillars.
@@JariJuslin
I think more like 50,000(?) tons of steel and who knows how much concrete and asphalt?
Divided by 1100. Times X days.
I think we are going to be here awhile.
I'll go ice down the beer. You get out the lawn chairs.
Of course, I am not in a position to know all the facts, but from what I have seen so far, I think it is the joint fault of both the bridge designers and the ship's owner. A bridge should be able take some pretty hefty impacts from a ship. The Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco has some massive concrete pillars at the base protecting the steel work.
Let the scrappers have it,it’ll be gone in a week
That is actually 100% true. FACT
@@ryder6070 No it's not. Baltimore Scrap Metal is the largest in the area. They don't have 1000 ton cranes, and they don't have any experience here, the USACE does. There's still bodies in the water, and you don't want any more.
Peace to the souls lost and their familys in this tragedy.
The other two men presumed dead??? Yah think
Saturday, May 18, 2014
The current date scheduled for The Preakness (horse race), in Baltimore. WARNING!!
i wish the port authorities had the rule of using tugboats for such a big container vessel........morans
Yeah, my dad my dad helped build a bridge
im noticing a lot of references to the statue of liberty as of late, peculiar.
What’s with bluto doing the news…
11000 tons that's 2000 lbs a ton not much
pronouns well the name of the great painter Salvador Dalí
Liability should in fact apply to the state for their failure to include collision protection in the original design. Just look at the barriers surrounding the hydro towers in the river. The bridge would still be standing if it had similar protection. The workers would still be alive and life and shipping in Baltimore would still be going on as normal. The engineers who designed and the state officials who signed off on the bridge all have blood on their hands.
Um, the bridge was built in 1972, 52 years ago (I did the math for you, didn't think it was in your skill set) so not only do those people have blood on their hands but I expect most of them are already quite dead. After 9/11 it was discussed to put up protective bollards but it was deemed too expensive---you know how everyone wants the government to do all this stuff but then they whine like crazy about paying for it? Yeah, that thing.
@@vintagelady1 Same thing with people in CA wanting the electric utility to bury all high voltage power lines in fire prone areas, UNTIL THE STATE SAID THE UTILITY CAN RAISE RATES TO PAY FOR IT. Now they are all crying and screaming. But the customers were all for suing the utility company. Burying the lines means the utility will not be sued in the future.
@@vintagelady1 well since insults are the order of the day why dont you just go ahead and change your handle there since you are NO lady. and Vintage is just another word for OLD. And while we are on the subject I am as certain as you that many if not most of the engineers and government officials responsible for this mess are already rotting there are still plenty of corporations and government bureaus to shoulder the blame.
Give those emps raises,use caution when working,and thanks,make sure there are food trucks or access to diff.styles and types food,at the site.
I’ve worked in field construction for 35 years and everyone always packs a lunch for the day. It’s not that hard
I know ive done construction work for about 10 yrs .it was a learning experience for me
why is the insurance company not footing the bill for the bridge???
Because they don't want to. Thats how insurance companies work. Pay out the least amount possible. In this case, thats 44 million. But, litigation will go on from a long time and the bridge needs to built now.
The most used port on east coast. Busy busy port. Hire a Japanese firm to remove and rebuild ... they would have it opened in 6mths. Here 5billion+ 4yrs maybe 5yrs after posturing for political gain. Oh yeah and money. How sad
The most used port on the East coast? No, that would be NY/New Jersey. And people from the US should build it.
why are we paying for the bridge ?
Because it's a piece of federal infrastructure and it's the federal government's job to maintain and replace that infrastructure when necessary.
The governor should go away no one cares what he thinks come back in 10 years when its done
Rick is wearing a rats nest on his head.😂
It's a rat state
Prayers to those who lost there lives
What, statue of liberty comment 😑
I was just thinking tonnage but ya know...I'm focused on the goooooooooody! You must escape, run with the horses
Make the owner of the ship pay for all the damages!! Not the TAX PAYERS
The owner says he's got $44 mil to contribute. We should seize and auction off the cargo.
@@ulytognola9085 the cargo doesn't belong to the shipping company how can you auction it off
@@ulytognola9085 : would you let Amazon, UPS, and or Fedex auction off your order that you paid for?
How about making the parties who decided to dredge the channel for bigger ships than the bridge was designed for pay for it?
The port did not just magically start getting bigger ships than before, someone modified it to accept them to make more money.
The taxpayers always pay and pay.
1100 TONS ONLY in 2 weeks????
Almost half of that was moved by one crane at once.
Why doesn't Maryland fix its own bridge?
$$$$$. That's why. And guess what? They will ask Congress to pay for it.
Because it's not thier fault I feel Singapore should pay for every aspect of this job & the family that lost love one's & jobs 💯
@@therealvirgoqueen6553 It is not the fault of the American Taxpayer, most of whom will never see or use it.
They spend that money on police brutality cases
@@dfirth224 Maryland has paid many billions in federal port duty collected the past several centuries. If Maryland has to pay for this bridge, forget about the country collecting any import/export duty from Maryland. Ever.
Ok good! 3 1/2 weeks and $30 million Fed money later, and I'm very glad they're just getting started now! ...
(Get crackin' govt and contractors. This makes us look very stupid in a county we can accomplish anything! ..)
So what? We just sent 66 Billion overseas.
Rumour has it the submarine still escaped and bringing the bridge down failed to stop its capture
I wonder where all the money we pay in taxes in Maryland has gone for "Rainy day" and infrastructure. Funny how they need to 'lobby' for the Feds to fund it...
"Nothing will every happen to it while we are in office. Let someone else worry about it down the road."
Into the rainey day pockets of $pecial interests. Our politicians are a crime gang that makes the Mexican drug cartels people of honor.
Because this involves transport, the Feds are involved. And the rainy day fund wouldn't cover this. Look, we just sent 66 billion overseas, so using it here is a good thing.
There is absolutely no need for a deaf translator. Ever heard of closed captions?
Just look at her face ,,She`s enough to scare the begeebees out of a deaf person
Where are the captions at the place of the event?
Will they call it the key bridge again or will they name it after something woke?
Hopefully, something woke to keep you awoke at night.
@@BTman58Narcissists always hope to cause others angst.
@ellobo1326
or people who insert politics into everything cause their own angst.🤷♂️
It will be called the Mitchell bridge.
@@BTman58 And it will be. A group of Black legislators want to call it the Mitchell bridge, so that's what will likely happen. Typically, city residents wouldn't ever use this bridge. I get that they're upset all the sudden about Francis Scott Key, But if if were up to me, it would be named after the location, or something like Memorial Bridge, or Harbor Bridge.
If you don't repair the bridge that will let more into the country.Isn't that Biden policy?😂😂😂.
The media is delaying this work
thank you for that non sensical comment
How are they delaying the work? Work is going on 24/7. They need the media to show people where their money is being spent.
it would be all cleaned up by now if trump was in office
Yeah right, like Trump and Republicans are really interested in solving any of America's problems! The Republican party especially with Trump is total dysfunctional! Good try troll!!
Yep, he could send Don Jr & Eric out there with Melania to get that job done. Probably need Jared & Ivanka too, to make the grifting...I mean, lifting got faster, & Jared could use his amazingly absent diplomacy skills to get Mexico to pay for it.
No, all they'd have to do is capture all of the hot air that tRump produces and the ship would be afloat in 30 minutes.
Sure and Moscow Marge as supervisor..
Trump 6 months and countless hours of golfing later: No one knew bridges are this complicated! Donate money for my criminal trials!
There going to milk the sh-t out of this job . Three weeks the ship should already be gone!
The ship is sitting on a gas line with 1000;s of tons of steel bridge work on it. Also the forward containers are all filled with hazardous cargo, many are already crushed. Zero visibility underwater , strong currents and the ship is sitting on the bottom. You have no idea how dangerous it is to move a heavy load under ideal conditions never mind the conditions they are working under.
Thank you ,bot user, for your opinions based on your various engineering degrees
As said by the union running the show .if you remove the bridge off the ship it will refloat.
Damn why didn’t anyone else think of that? Just remove all the crap on the ship and river bed! Makes ya wonder what they’ve been doing this whole time, huh!
@@rona4960 Yes I was a chief operating engineer and was involved with a lot of heavy lifting including under water lifts and inside water tanks and subterranean work.
Who cares ?
Does the 1,100 tons include the containers? Has the city decided on the new bridge design or are they going to stay with old design?
Ask ur self that question, then keep repeating it over and over until you understand that was a dumb question
There is no way they will stay with the old design. 1) It doesn't meet modern standards with respect to redundancy of load paths. 2) Since we don't build bridges like this anymore, the savings making this best choice in the 1970s don't apply anymore. 3) There is pretty much no group involved in the selection process that won't want a more expensive bridge. Taxpayers or insurance companies won't get a vote. The new bridge will be prettier with more capacity.
@@trayvoncole1073that wasn't a dumb question. You should know that a Question not asked is really the Dumb question...😂
@nakedluck - Good question.....Most likely they will go with a Suspension Bridge that will be up to date standards better quality and can hold more Capacity. Suspension bridges are more reliable and as technology advances they probably wont go with the old design. So yes they will bring in the top Architects and engineers to build the New key bridge that will off course have Dolphins guard barriers.
@@thedarkage187 I suspect that it will be a cable-stayed bridge. The span will probably be sufficient that a ship will run aground before contacting the islands around the piers.
Add for political hacks grubbing for personal cash
Why must we always see and hear that damn governor flapping his gums?