There was just one Clip from a home game. And all the fan marches are most likely away games of the champions league in other europen countrys. This marches happening not every game just befor special once.
In europe most of the clubs won‘t give their number „12“ to a player, since there are 11 soccer players on the pitch and one player is off the pitch… the crowd is the 12th men indeed
@@support4583 what else if not clubs. if you are still one who thinks football is about tradition, you need to get you head out of your pink unicorns ass. it's all about business in all top tier leagues. and not just business, it's full of corruption in all clubs and their sponsors. the "tradition" is just a fluffy dream some disillusional people still dream. get over it and face the world how it is.
Come see what it's like in Australia. 100,000 fans at an Australian rules grand final with no flares, no gang fights, a big happy family including young kids, one, maybe two morons at best. Biggest weekly attendances of any sport in the world per capita, and fourth highest overall regardless of the population. if you don't know about it, search for, "What is AFL, Aussie rules explained." 🇦🇺🦘
@@armitage9204 Talked to some older english footballfans on my job and they called them plastic fans. I think it goes back to the high prices for tickets which destroyed their fan culture in the first two divisions, so its like creditcard fans.
3:30 in Europe fans are often devided, into sections and they enter/leave the stadium at different times, so they won't kill each other, when coming across. There are even some stadiums, where fans of each team have their own sections at nearby trainstations divided by fences and of course so they won't sit in the same train/tram/bus.
@@tennents7843 There is no problem with that. I was never a big football fan but I was 4 when I was the first time at a football match with my dad (Schalke vs Dortmund, whicht is considered very dangerous) and it's as "dangerous" as going to an opera for normal people. "Casual fans" are also devided from "hardcore fans" and ultras. There is actually even no way for a normal person to get tickets for sections where fireworks and all that stuff happens. People who just want to casually watch a match will absolutely not come into contact with any of this ultra stuff.
What is important to me is that the ultras do not only use the events to support, but also to express their opinions about things that happen in other areas of life. When many thousands, many tens of thousands of people shout something, you can't help but pay attention.
To prevent a fight between the Ultras in a high risk game like Dortmund vs. Schalke the home and away team are separated by police from each other before, during and after the game.
These walks to the stadium, are usually the away fans. The fans arrive with special trains and get escorted by the police to the stadium to avoid contact with the local fans.
9:27 this was the first International Game in Years for the 1.FC Köln against London, and to support the Team, round about 35000 Fans drive to England even they have no Tickets for the Game. 😅
1:42 This is actually a normal sight at large games. Away team fans are brought in by train, collected at the railway station by the Rozzers and then marched to the stadium to prevent pre-game riots. Deutsche Bahn (railway company) often runs dedicated extra trains for the incoming fans, so they don't travel on regular trains.
@@lynnm6413 Ultras are generally not violent. The term comes from 'ultra loyal fans'. Some well known footballers like Manuel Neuer have been Ultras. The people you were thinking about are Hooligans. That's a completely different group.
@@dschoene57 I have to disagree with you there. As a German citizen, hailing from the Ruhrgebiet originally, I had to travel by train returning home from Uni a lot of weekends with fans of various football clubs, traveling to and sometimes, if rarely, from a game. Those were hardly the hardcore hooligans or ultras, which often get separate trains to limit the chance of any meeting opposing fans. I also lived in Hannover very close to the stadium, I could hear the chants from my room, so no… I was referring to the regular drunken male football fan, singing fan songs during the train ride, getting into minor scuffles on train platforms scaring all the rest of the passengers and hitting on women in the inner city while being unable to string three sentences together in the middle of the day. Harmless doesn‘t equal welcome, ya know?!
As an Englishman,I can only applaud the ultras in pretty much every European country. Been to many of the games over there following Manchester United and the atmosphere was always top notch. Dortmund were special when we went there and the Yellow Wall is impressive as was Schalke but the best I ever saw was at Fenerbache in Istanbul,Turkey. At one point,3 quarters of the stadium looked it was on fire,and the chanting was deafening.
In Europe the other sections apart from the Ultras sections are for those who just want to sit down and watch the game unfold. Sometimes I even forget about the game when I'm just watching and listening to the ultras
If the fans go overboard the team is punished. Either fans (income) are banned and they have a so called “ghost game” or they have to pay a fine. Also the fireworks are prohibited (bengal lights).
3:30 This is the section for the away Fans, these Fans travelled from Dortmund, Germany to London to support their Team in the international game ( Champions League, the top league in whole europe.) And they do this to every game, no matter how far, this is what Football means to us.
It‘s also true that there are standout football clubs like Schalke 04 in Gesenkirchen who serve as a way to allow for men to gather together and be proud about something, follow their tribal instincts to group together and let loose. Gelsenkirchen is the second most poorest county in all of Germany because they used to have great steel manufacturing and coal mining in the region called the Ruhrpott, but after structural changes and a lot of unemployment and foreign immigrants, Schalke as an institution is one of the pillars of societal cohesion thereabouts. Reading a lot lately of male disheartenement and dissatisfaction, I have come to understand the value of institutions and traditions like old football clubs a lot more. As a student at Uni I used to be annoyed as all heck when taking the train home and finding out that it was some important game in the Pott, having to maneuver around drunk men at 10 am, singing their songs in the train cars, being greeted by police in the thousands at the station where I needed to change trains, to be constantly watchful not to be caught in the middle of scuffles between opposing fan groups as to not get pushed off the platform with all my luggage. However, I have mellowed quite a bit watching videos such as this, looking less at the obstruction to public life such as traffic jams, closed off roads, drunk men at lunch time being obnoxious in the inner city before the games.
That's why football (the real kind) is the most popular sport in the world. There's nothing like going with 4-5000 of your teammates and friends to another city, wave your flags through the streets, sing the songs of your team and basically occupy the center and drink all the beer. Last time I did that was in Germany and my team (a Bulgarian team - Levski Sofia) was playing away in Frankfurt. Really is something else to see and experience.
Gotta remember that most of these are away fans, hundreds of miles away from home, mostly in other countrys and usually on a random tuesday or wednesday evening
IN The US these would be classed as Riots. We British, German, Italian, Spanish and EU as a whole are very happy to more Free than Americans when it comes to this sort of fun.
When you say the crowd is like an extra player on the field. Well, we call them "de twaalfde man" here, which literaly translates to "the 12th man". (the other 11 are on the field for those that don't know the math in football).
I remember being at a Champion's league game in Milan some 13 years ago, (Inter vs Schalke 04) and the German fans were absolutely insane in the city before and after the game, great memory!
It's not only football. In most of the hockey stadiums in Germany there's also a good fan culture. Especially in older halls like Straubing or Iserlohn.
Fun Fact, at every Game from 1. FC Köln (Cologne) in this Video I´m seen! Imagine you travel to London with your Club, you conquer the city with 25000 Fans. It was awesome!
@@laziojohnny79 What are you on about. The only times you got thousands of footballfans in the streets is when german fans come over. Stop being a btch cause your fanculture in the first two divisions died decades ago.
Just for completion, this is the positive side of the ultras when they are going crazy in a positive way, but there is a backside of the medal when they get crazy in a negative way. My impression is the last few years we have seen far more of the positive side.
Yeah. There are often violent once, that even go for the stuff members that are only there to make sure everyone is doing ok and to completle unrelated people.
Ultras are the player #12 they are a KEY element IN THE GAME. They are the atmosphere, the support, they give that extra push to the players so they keep on fighting. Ultras travel with their team to support them in wherever city or county they go play. Win or lose they are there chanting cheering for their team. RESPECT!!! Btw one corner (curva) of the stadium is for the ultras of the home team and the opposite curva is for the away team. You will never ever sit them near each other, that will not be good 😅
@@mntssth5004 That's not the point, I'd never pay money for that anyways, it's illegal in the first place, the clubs and associations just don't have the balls to really enforce their rules. I don't know if it's the uploader or YT but somehow fascist censorship deleted my reply to the other one so I can't eloborate on that.
@@DerEchteBold because there is no "reason". Pyro was never illegal for 20-30 years, until the Politicians decided to make it illegal, claiming that pyro is dangerous, wich is not true, if its not thrown into groups of people. Its a Part of the Fan culture, and it should have never been banned. But makes no difference anyway
8:45 The greatest thing about all those flares is that you hear the phrase "Please refain from using pyrotechnics in the stands as its extremely dangerous" through the stadiums speakers EVERY SINGLE TIME. ........ :D
Usually at Euro‘s and WC the atmosphere is different. St least in Europe. There are no ultras, so it’s not that loud, no fireworks, not so organized chanting. Still great, but definitely different.
9:07 This is called a fan march. where fans are marching before the game to get in "the mood". mostly seen before Special games or the beginning of the new season.
Despite this the fans in Germany have got a lot of influence (indirectly). It was in discussion that external inverstors should pay a lot of money for getting a lot of influence (f.e. on dates of some games which they exclusivly wanted to broadcast (on extra days sometimes not at the weekend andby this a lot of fans wouldn't be able to watch them any more because they had to work). Furthermore a warning example is England where investors own the Premier League = higher TV-prices, very high ticket-prices. In combination To show their protest for several weeks they threw tennisballs on the pitch which interrupted the games again and again. In the end the Bundesliga gave up their investor fans. 🙂
1:49 The police vans have yellow license plates, so they are dutch. The fans of Schalke 04 from Gelsenkirchen, Germany, followed their team in a continental match to the Netherlands.
The first clip was from Spain - but the fans were German. That was back when Schalke (the greatest club of all) was still playing internationally and not 2. Bundesliga. When German clubs travel abroad, the fans come with them and they take over towns. Two years ago - season 2022/23 - when Eintracht Frankfurt won the Europa League, some towns even forbid the sale of tickets to Frankfurt fans to keep the "German invasion force" out - and to give their own home teams an adventage of course. Didn't work since Frankfurt won the cup anyway.
Don't forget, they also go with 25k or even much more people to the opposing teams stadium and do it there to support their team. Even to other countries.
Almost all Europe Countrys have had fought against each other, even City against City, or got conquered by the strongest, and fight back, and so on. Europe is born on Fights and Wars, and some Wisdom. And Football ist the beautiful Way, to fight those ancient Fights without Weapons. Sports with Rules is a Good Way to do it. ♥
Greetings from Dortmund/Germany ,our Club the BvB make it to the Uefa Cl Final last night,the first time since 2013! Final ist hosted by the famous Wembley Stadium in the UK on First of June
@@TheCornishCockney yes because of all these amazing english teams...these teams that dominate europe tournaments...oh wait you guys are eliminate my bad ^^ and you only invest billions of euro in your teams or pound for uk people with money from oil-countrys like saudi or qatar yeah you guys are absolute amazing thumps up...
In Germany, as in the rest of Europe, you are a fan of the club your father and grandfather supported before you. This is usually the club of your hometown, with which you identify 100%, and at every game, you represent your club, your city, and your family. It is hard for outsiders to understand such a thing. The club holds a very high status. I know families who no longer speak to each other because they support rival clubs.
the world knows,here at the millerntor we have the best fans. we love our club,our neighborhood and what FC ST.Pauli stands for. equality,peace,friendship between people and a love for the game. FORZA ST.PAULI!
My personal favourite in terms of "Club loyalty" is Alemannia Aachen. 4th league (recently promoted to third) from a relatively "small" city (Aachen), yet they have thousand upon thousands of live viewers in the Stadium.
Maybe another fact that is special. From where I live in Germany, 25 Minutes to Mönchengladbach (Black/White - Minute 12:12), about 2h to Geselnkirchen (Schalke 04 from the start of the video), even about 2 h to Dortmund (yellow/black), Paris 3h by train, London about 6h by train (from here Manchester and Liverpool are easy to reach) , if you took the plane you can reach Barcelona and Madrid in less than 5 h (includes the transfer to the Airport). By American standards (I would imagine), the absolute top football clubs (worldwide) are packed together in a very small space.
3:30 its common in european Football the away team arrives protected by police and early to the game, especially on international championships or specific rivalry. By the way, these are fans from my Home Team Borussia Dortmund. Like the Next at 3:54 as well... Most intimidating is the South Stand, die Südtribüne in our Stadium. Might wanna look for a compilation of choreographies from some of these Yellow an Black 24.454 People! :-)
You definitely have to watch a video of the ultras and choreographies of Borussia Dortmund (BvB). The "Yellow Wall" in the Westfalenstation is world-famous.
I am a fan of Borussia Mönchengladbach which you show in your video ....6:30minutes. Have been a fan for 40 years now. I am born not far from there. I must tell you tho that there is a ultra Kurve for example Die Nord Kurve and there you have theses Ultras. There are many more quiet areas for families and it is very safe to watch a game. 😊
In Germany and most countries where football is so big, ultras live more than 90 minutes of watching football. They go to every game, make choreographies or new tifo material during the week. Especially the very hot choreographies, which sometimes cost 20-30,000 € depending on the situation and are only financed by the fans and then built themselves, are neglected in the video. Plus the pyrotechnics, which are forbidden but are a large part of fan culture. There are also occasional physical confrontations with opposing ultras and the police or prearranged fights.
those fires are obviously forbidden in the stadium, but it's hard to enforce that since there's just way too many fans in those stands and not enough security to safely remove them D: so in more extreme cases the clubs that those fans cheer for have to pay a fine
The club is part of the family. So it is a matter of the heart. It doesn't matter whether the club is doing well or badly. Club loyalty goes from the cradle to the grave. Every club has its own anthem. In the USA, people go to sports to see a show and to be seen.
Not all Ultra groups have to be separated. There are also long running friendships between fan groups of different teams. For example the fan friendship between KSC & Hertha BSC. 3 weeks ago 12‘000 marched together to the stadium after a joined fan festival the evening before: ruclips.net/user/shortsAabD8zLVwBI?si=XXpG3QVCgEe63VbJ
2:57 (in this scene, they are Schalke fans) "imagine being a pro athlete" ruclips.net/video/YBZS3EjnFpk/видео.html Schalke athletes hunted by their own "fans", because they descend from 1st division.
That first clip, from Schalke 04? They're the arch-enemies of my local football club (Borussia Dortmund, clip #3). When they played each other, people working with both fan groups in either city used to collect the Schalke Ultras at the train station and brought them to a place -- a field, or parking lot -- where "our" Ultras were already waiting. Then both groups were given permission to brawl, with medics and police present just in case. The rationale was to put a cap on possible aggression beforehand and keep it out of the stadium. Afterwards, they were marched separately to the stadium, watched the game and afterwards were brought back to that place to get rid of any frustration and anger by being permitted to brawl AGAIN. No idea if they're still doing this, but a friend who worked for the municipal sports department said it worked, after a fashion. Meaning, no severe injuries, no property damage and everything was kept kinda, sorta, more or less ... uh, civilized? *whistles innocently* Btw, the area for the local Borussia fans is known nationwide as "the yellow wall" (club colors are black and yellow) and are often considered to be the 12th player on the field because they can spur the team on so much Oh, and they only sell drinks in plastic cups; players and/or referees have actually been injured when someone hurled a glass bottle onto the pitch. (One referee got hit in the face by a cigarette lighter once, too.) The guys in the yellow vests and helmets aren't police, but volunteer helpers who check for contraband -- like pyrotechnics and "weapons" like sticks or brass knuckles.
those are ultras u can watcha game chill in the opposite side of the stadium and watching this spectacle from there while eating a hotdog with a coke. its all ur choise
The Funny thing is the first's video are not home games. At Min 8:03 to min 10:59 are Fans from my all time Favorite Team 1.FC Köln (Cologne). The Mascot is a Goat called Hennes❤❤😊
1;40 - These are the away fans of Schalke being marched either to the stadium or to a train station to get to the stadium from there. Appears to be in Amsterdam. This is a common approach in European international games, since fans arrive from multiple directions by multiple means(trains, planes, cars) when it's an important game and there are lot of away fans are coming. Uefa says minimum 5% of capacity, so for most stadiums in Western Europe that would be around 3000-4000(more if agreement is reached between clubs). Police designates some gathering spot, usually a square in the touristy center, from where they do this organized march, called a "corteo". A lot of the terminology comes from Italy so it sounds italian - Ultra, tifo, corteo. So this Corteo achieves multiple goals at the same time. When all the fans are at the same place they get to have their fun and pose with "overtaking the city", have some beers, while being surrounded by Police to avoid any incidents with local fans actually happening. It's a bit foolish, but you get the best balance - make your presence known, without causing havoc like in 80s England.
In Europe you are born with love for your club. Your father was a fan, your grandpa, his father ...etc :). The club is "defending" the pride of your City. Its way more than just a sport for us.
The Copa90 channel has some great documentary TV style videos on their channel talking about the ultras more in depth, the history and lifestyle of the people and why they do what they do.
It's usually quite chill and family friendly too, there are certain areas for the ultras but there are also areas for families with kids. At most places at least.
The Ultras subculture is not really about "sports". It is more about identity, and it is highly territorial and sometimes generational. For the ultras, the game on the pitch is rather something like a proxy war than a "sport event". You can say it is "savage", but on the other hand it is also more "authentic" than the sterilized American sports events.
The Euro finals are coming up mid June to mid July, the tournament will be held in Germany, this type of club support will be there, but this time, rival supporters of each nations clubs will put aside their differences and get together to support their Country, again is a magical moment, both on the Euro finals, as well as on the World cup finals.
In Italy we have the motto which states that the crowd and the ultras/fans of a soccer team is the 13th player on the field, after the 11 on the real pitch and the 12th, the coach of the team!!! And it is rumored that Winston Churchill, once, said that we italians "Do fight real wars like soccer matches... And live soccer matches like they were real wars"!!! To me, it sounds a little bit cocky and "poshily racist", as the brits themselves should say... But that explains how much deep our "soccer religion" is lived by us!!!
For some videos you might want to have someone to give you context: as the comments say this is german fans in england in away machtes being louder and more "fanatic" then the more numerous local fans
The fan march was Schalke 04, when they have played in European Championships. Very old footage, as Schalke 04 is now playing in the second league. The stadium footage, first team is Borussia Dortmund and they are well known for their „yellow wall“ called fans. The stadium can have up to 80.000 fans. Next was Bayern Munich, Third was Borussia Mönchengladbach on a away match. The away team has about 5-10% capacity of the whole stadium capacity, where they are allowed to crowd in their team colors. Bengal fire is common with the ultras, however it is forbidden for obvious reason. Same for Fc Köln (Colone) and their fan march.
Its important to say that these fans showed are away fans in an international game and not in their home ground/city. To have a parade with all awayfans together from the city center to the stadium of the opponent it is what fans do in football instead of tailgate in the US (what i find also really cool)
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the crazy thing is when the guest are winning in a stadium with 60 thousend people angry😂 but you have the ultras with you, some 5000 to 10 thousend, that give you suport😂
Btw Schalke fans (first few clips) are insane: they now play 2nd division and their average attendance this season was 61,5k (10th worldwide) Great video!
Now I haven't been to a match for a while, and every country & even every club is different. But in general : Visiting ultras are guided by police to and from and from the stadium . There is a part of the stadium for the Home team ultras and for the visiting ultras ( Other side of the field ).Then there's parts of the stadium for more modest fans, families with kids and such. There are different entrances to these sections. ( With empty sections in between if it's a explosive match ) So with high risk games, there are 'closed off' sections to keep home team ultras from clashing into the ultras from opposing team . It's the ultras that travel along with their club when they play in other stadiums.
Football or you call it Soccer is more than just a sport for us. It's Passion, it's joy, it's a Religion. (There first 3 Videoclips are my Club, FC Schalke 04)
Mind these are all ultras and in a soccer stadium they always group in one area like the Südkurve (southern corner). So if you want to enjoy the game a littler calmer you can just book another corner.
Now i am 50 years old,but in my "prime"as a Werder Fan between 15 and 35 the best was the away games.Not importend In the Bundesliga or UEFA or Championsleague.The group of comrads you build with them was fantastic.I think the biggest problems between this Fans in Europe and the americans,are the identify with the Club and not with a company.Now i read in the newspapers the Phoenix coyotes go away to Utah and next year they are the Utah Yetis or so.Thats why i much more like your College Sports.More Identify.And thats why nobody in Germany like the Football Company Red Bull Leipzig.
Regarding the first part, which would probably be a completely unfamiliar concept to Americans, but fans are actually walking to the stadium, making sure to celebrate their team on the way!!!
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"What you might not know is that most of the clips were from away matches involving German fans in England."
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There was just one Clip from a home game. And all the fan marches are most likely away games of the champions league in other europen countrys. This marches happening not every game just befor special once.
wir sind eben aus tradition anders :D
Hier regiert der SVD🔵⚪️⚜️!
In europe most of the clubs won‘t give their number „12“ to a player, since there are 11 soccer players on the pitch and one player is off the pitch… the crowd is the 12th men indeed
"Most" is a exaggeration. More like "some"
@@bogdanhify I dont see clubs like Oil City, RB Leipzig…. as „clubs“.
played in a village football team. thats the exact reason i got the 13 instead of the 12 :D
@@support4583 normal people dont see u as a normal human too...
@@support4583 what else if not clubs. if you are still one who thinks football is about tradition, you need to get you head out of your pink unicorns ass. it's all about business in all top tier leagues. and not just business, it's full of corruption in all clubs and their sponsors. the "tradition" is just a fluffy dream some disillusional people still dream. get over it and face the world how it is.
These ultras are only on one of the four stands of a European stadium, the other three are for families and "normal" people :)
Thats not true in all countries.
Establishment sheep with no personality spotted
That is not it at all. Two OPPOSITE corners of the stadium are for the ultras. One corner for each team
Come see what it's like in Australia. 100,000 fans at an Australian rules grand final with no flares, no gang fights, a big happy family including young kids, one, maybe two morons at best. Biggest weekly attendances of any sport in the world per capita, and fourth highest overall regardless of the population. if you don't know about it, search for, "What is AFL, Aussie rules explained." 🇦🇺🦘
@@AllLivezmatter ok usualy one block on the oposite site for the away fans,but its not the whole stand :)
These were all scenes (except the 8:07 one) from German away games in Europe.
3:30 was probably the section dedicated for the fans of the away team so the home fans where still arriving
Yep , these were german fans( Dortmund) in England
British tourist fans taking pictures of real fans.
These are Dortmund fans at the Emirates(Arsenal)
@@armitage9204 Talked to some older english footballfans on my job and they called them plastic fans. I think it goes back to the high prices for tickets which destroyed their fan culture in the first two divisions, so its like creditcard fans.
3:30 in Europe fans are often devided, into sections and they enter/leave the stadium at different times, so they won't kill each other, when coming across.
There are even some stadiums, where fans of each team have their own sections at nearby trainstations divided by fences and of course so they won't sit in the same train/tram/bus.
and thats the reason why I will never attend a Football Match with my little son. I go to Ice Hockey Games with him, they are just fun
@@tennents7843 There is no problem with that. I was never a big football fan but I was 4 when I was the first time at a football match with my dad (Schalke vs Dortmund, whicht is considered very dangerous) and it's as "dangerous" as going to an opera for normal people. "Casual fans" are also devided from "hardcore fans" and ultras. There is actually even no way for a normal person to get tickets for sections where fireworks and all that stuff happens.
People who just want to casually watch a match will absolutely not come into contact with any of this ultra stuff.
What is important to me is that the ultras do not only use the events to support, but also to express their opinions about things that happen in other areas of life. When many thousands, many tens of thousands of people shout something, you can't help but pay attention.
To prevent a fight between the Ultras in a high risk game like Dortmund vs. Schalke the home and away team are separated by police from each other before, during and after the game.
These walks to the stadium, are usually the away fans. The fans arrive with special trains and get escorted by the police to the stadium to avoid contact with the local fans.
9:27 this was the first International Game in Years for the 1.FC Köln against London, and to support the Team, round about 35000 Fans drive to England even they have no Tickets for the Game. 😅
against which london? tottenham, west ham, arsenal, chelsea, crystal palace, fulham?
@@PanAm747Clipper Arsenal
@@x_Heisenberg_x ok
At the end was Arsenal v 1.FC Koln. I was there. As an Arsenal fan. I was impressed.
Of course you were, because every German fanbase or proper Ultras scene outside of England is taking over your theatre in London.
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@@stipe9773 the few English Football fans are watching German Football anyway
@@VantommHD Or 3rd 4th division english football.
1:42 This is actually a normal sight at large games. Away team fans are brought in by train, collected at the railway station by the Rozzers and then marched to the stadium to prevent pre-game riots. Deutsche Bahn (railway company) often runs dedicated extra trains for the incoming fans, so they don't travel on regular trains.
I wish…there are a lot of ‚regular fans‘ causing enough riot without having to belong to the Ultras….
@@lynnm6413 Ultras are generally not violent. The term comes from 'ultra loyal fans'. Some well known footballers like Manuel Neuer have been Ultras. The people you were thinking about are Hooligans. That's a completely different group.
@@dschoene57 I have to disagree with you there.
As a German citizen, hailing from the Ruhrgebiet originally, I had to travel by train returning home from Uni a lot of weekends with fans of various football clubs, traveling to and sometimes, if rarely, from a game.
Those were hardly the hardcore hooligans or ultras, which often get separate trains to limit the chance of any meeting opposing fans.
I also lived in Hannover very close to the stadium, I could hear the chants from my room, so no…
I was referring to the regular drunken male football fan, singing fan songs during the train ride, getting into minor scuffles on train platforms scaring all the rest of the passengers and hitting on women in the inner city while being unable to string three sentences together in the middle of the day.
Harmless doesn‘t equal welcome, ya know?!
As an Englishman,I can only applaud the ultras in pretty much every European country.
Been to many of the games over there following Manchester United and the atmosphere was always top notch.
Dortmund were special when we went there and the Yellow Wall is impressive as was Schalke but the best I ever saw was at Fenerbache in Istanbul,Turkey.
At one point,3 quarters of the stadium looked it was on fire,and the chanting was deafening.
In Europe the other sections apart from the Ultras sections are for those who just want to sit down and watch the game unfold. Sometimes I even forget about the game when I'm just watching and listening to the ultras
If the fans go overboard the team is punished. Either fans (income) are banned and they have a so called “ghost game” or they have to pay a fine. Also the fireworks are prohibited (bengal lights).
Youre right. “The 12th man” is what good fans in Germany are called.
3:30 This is the section for the away Fans, these Fans travelled from Dortmund, Germany to London to support their Team in the international game ( Champions League, the top league in whole europe.) And they do this to every game, no matter how far, this is what Football means to us.
Here in germany and other european or south american countrys Football is just More Than a Sport for some people.
Its for life
It‘s also true that there are standout football clubs like Schalke 04 in Gesenkirchen who serve as a way to allow for men to gather together and be proud about something, follow their tribal instincts to group together and let loose.
Gelsenkirchen is the second most poorest county in all of Germany because they used to have great steel manufacturing and coal mining in the region called the Ruhrpott, but after structural changes and a lot of unemployment and foreign immigrants, Schalke as an institution is one of the pillars of societal cohesion thereabouts.
Reading a lot lately of male disheartenement and dissatisfaction, I have come to understand the value of institutions and traditions like old football clubs a lot more.
As a student at Uni I used to be annoyed as all heck when taking the train home and finding out that it was some important game in the Pott,
having to maneuver around drunk men at 10 am,
singing their songs in the train cars,
being greeted by police in the thousands at the station where I needed to change trains,
to be constantly watchful not to be caught in the middle of scuffles between opposing fan groups as to not get pushed off the platform with all my luggage.
However, I have mellowed quite a bit watching videos such as this, looking less at the obstruction to public life such as traffic jams, closed off roads, drunk men at lunch time being obnoxious in the inner city before the games.
Cologne vs. Arsenal away from home. I was There and I will Never forget those Come on Effzeh ❤
Das letzte Wort hab ich erst gar nicht verstanden und dann so....aaah!😂 Greetings from the Ruhrgebiet
@@Winona493 😅
That's why football (the real kind) is the most popular sport in the world. There's nothing like going with 4-5000 of your teammates and friends to another city, wave your flags through the streets, sing the songs of your team and basically occupy the center and drink all the beer. Last time I did that was in Germany and my team (a Bulgarian team - Levski Sofia) was playing away in Frankfurt. Really is something else to see and experience.
Gotta remember that most of these are away fans, hundreds of miles away from home, mostly in other countrys and usually on a random tuesday or wednesday evening
IN The US these would be classed as Riots.
We British, German, Italian, Spanish and EU as a whole are very happy to more Free than Americans when it comes to this sort of fun.
More free than in America…..those are fighting words over there…lol. 🤣🤣🤣
@@lynnm6413 Want to take us on, go right ahead 🙂
@@raystewart3648 I‘m German, dude…?! 🙄
@@lynnm6413 how happy for you.
I am Portuguese. This weekend was the end of The championship ended with the victory of my club Sporting. We all went out to celebrate.
Congrats to Sporting. Well done
When you say the crowd is like an extra player on the field. Well, we call them "de twaalfde man" here, which literaly translates to "the 12th man". (the other 11 are on the field for those that don't know the math in football).
In Germany we say this as well!
Zwölfter Mann 👍🏻
I remember being at a Champion's league game in Milan some 13 years ago, (Inter vs Schalke 04) and the German fans were absolutely insane in the city before and after the game, great memory!
It's not only football. In most of the hockey stadiums in Germany there's also a good fan culture. Especially in older halls like Straubing or Iserlohn.
Fun Fact, at every Game from 1. FC Köln (Cologne) in this Video I´m seen! Imagine you travel to London with your Club, you conquer the city with 25000 Fans. It was awesome!
How exactly did you ‘‘conquer’’ the city? Did you chase the London firms through the streets? Or even faced one of them?
@@laziojohnny79 Pretty easy to hunt down empty suits.
Common, you know what he meant.
@@hw2508 I do, but traveling to London, drinking a pint and attending a match isn't something I would call conquering the city.
@@laziojohnny79 Let them have their experience. At least they don't leave early when their team does not win.
@@laziojohnny79 What are you on about. The only times you got thousands of footballfans in the streets is when german fans come over. Stop being a btch cause your fanculture in the first two divisions died decades ago.
Just for completion, this is the positive side of the ultras when they are going crazy in a positive way, but there is a backside of the medal when they get crazy in a negative way. My impression is the last few years we have seen far more of the positive side.
Yeah. There are often violent once, that even go for the stuff members that are only there to make sure everyone is doing ok and to completle unrelated people.
Ultras are the player #12 they are a KEY element IN THE GAME. They are the atmosphere, the support, they give that extra push to the players so they keep on fighting. Ultras travel with their team to support them in wherever city or county they go play. Win or lose they are there chanting cheering for their team. RESPECT!!! Btw one corner (curva) of the stadium is for the ultras of the home team and the opposite curva is for the away team. You will never ever sit them near each other, that will not be good 😅
Ultras are crazy all over Europe. As long as they behave, it's just sports craze. ^^
Well, the pyrotechnics are already dangerous and out of line but they just won't see reason.
@@DerEchteBoldthere are less people who get hurt from Pyro then from 1312😉
If you afraid of pyro watch match on tv
@@mntssth5004
That's not the point, I'd never pay money for that anyways, it's illegal in the first place, the clubs and associations just don't have the balls to really enforce their rules.
I don't know if it's the uploader or YT but somehow fascist censorship deleted my reply to the other one so I can't eloborate on that.
@@DerEchteBold because there is no "reason".
Pyro was never illegal for 20-30 years, until the Politicians decided to make it illegal, claiming that pyro is dangerous, wich is not true, if its not thrown into groups of people. Its a Part of the Fan culture, and it should have never been banned. But makes no difference anyway
8:45
The greatest thing about all those flares is that you hear the phrase
"Please refain from using pyrotechnics in the stands as its extremely dangerous"
through the stadiums speakers EVERY SINGLE TIME.
........
:D
Next month, June, it will be Being Euro 2024, it's going to be crazy in Europe.
Yeah yeah yeah 😎👍
Usually at Euro‘s and WC the atmosphere is different. St least in Europe. There are no ultras, so it’s not that loud, no fireworks, not so organized chanting. Still great, but definitely different.
I work in the old town of Cologne, the club at the end 1 Fc köln, and its been crazy full
@@memyselfandeye1
Scots & Dutch: Hold my beer.
@@shadowfox009xyes true. The vibe is fantastic!! We’re all so in love with the Scots, aren’t we?! We want them to come back… 🎉❤
9:07 This is called a fan march. where fans are marching before the game to get in "the mood". mostly seen before Special games or the beginning of the new season.
Despite this the fans in Germany have got a lot of influence (indirectly). It was in discussion that external inverstors should pay a lot of money for getting a lot of influence (f.e. on dates of some games which they exclusivly wanted to broadcast (on extra days sometimes not at the weekend andby this a lot of fans wouldn't be able to watch them any more because they had to work). Furthermore a warning example is England where investors own the Premier League = higher TV-prices, very high ticket-prices. In combination To show their protest for several weeks they threw tennisballs on the pitch which interrupted the games again and again. In the end the Bundesliga gave up their investor fans. 🙂
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I was watching your video for 20 seconds when my eye spotted the can of Wolters-Pils. 🍻 Best regards from Brunswick/Braunschweig
1:49 The police vans have yellow license plates, so they are dutch.
The fans of Schalke 04 from Gelsenkirchen, Germany, followed their team in a continental match to the Netherlands.
The first clip was from Spain - but the fans were German. That was back when Schalke (the greatest club of all) was still playing internationally and not 2. Bundesliga. When German clubs travel abroad, the fans come with them and they take over towns. Two years ago - season 2022/23 - when Eintracht Frankfurt won the Europa League, some towns even forbid the sale of tickets to Frankfurt fans to keep the "German invasion force" out - and to give their own home teams an adventage of course. Didn't work since Frankfurt won the cup anyway.
guest fans have to enter the stadium earlier as the home crowd in most cases(or something in that direction). thats why it still was so empty at 3:40
Don't forget, they also go with 25k or even much more people to the opposing teams stadium and do it there to support their team. Even to other countries.
Almost all Europe Countrys have had fought against each other, even City against City, or got conquered by the strongest, and fight back, and so on.
Europe is born on Fights and Wars, and some Wisdom.
And Football ist the beautiful Way, to fight those ancient Fights without Weapons. Sports with Rules is a Good Way to do it. ♥
Greetings from Dortmund/Germany ,our Club the BvB make it to the Uefa Cl Final last night,the first time since 2013!
Final ist hosted by the famous Wembley Stadium in the UK on First of June
Geiles Spiel! Glückwunsch und viel Glück fürs Finale. Grüße nach Dortmand vom zukünftigen Aufsteiger aus Kiel (fingers crossed) :D
@@JohnTitor00 Danke dir :) Kiel und St. Pauli bitte aufsteigen,blos nicht der HSV!:)
As a Manchester United fan,I really hope BvB go on and win it,but you can keep Sancho,the premier league in England is too hard and fast for him.
@@TheCornishCockney he is welcome here but unfortunately we can't afford his salary...
@@TheCornishCockney yes because of all these amazing english teams...these teams that dominate europe tournaments...oh wait you guys are eliminate my bad ^^ and you only invest billions of euro in your teams or pound for uk people with money from oil-countrys like saudi or qatar yeah you guys are absolute amazing thumps up...
you can change your name, you can change your sex, you can change your religion... but you can never change your club...^^
In Germany, by law, 51% of shares belong to fans
Club members, to be more specific.
intimidation ! imagine 5.000 dudes from another city brawling through your street shouting and yelling with the drums ? lol
In Germany, as in the rest of Europe, you are a fan of the club your father and grandfather supported before you. This is usually the club of your hometown, with which you identify 100%, and at every game, you represent your club, your city, and your family. It is hard for outsiders to understand such a thing. The club holds a very high status. I know families who no longer speak to each other because they support rival clubs.
the world knows,here at the millerntor we have the best fans. we love our club,our neighborhood and what FC ST.Pauli stands for. equality,peace,friendship between people and a love for the game. FORZA ST.PAULI!
My personal favourite in terms of "Club loyalty" is Alemannia Aachen. 4th league (recently promoted to third) from a relatively "small" city (Aachen), yet they have thousand upon thousands of live viewers in the Stadium.
Maybe another fact that is special. From where I live in Germany, 25 Minutes to Mönchengladbach (Black/White - Minute 12:12), about 2h to Geselnkirchen (Schalke 04 from the start of the video), even about 2 h to Dortmund (yellow/black), Paris 3h by train, London about 6h by train (from here Manchester and Liverpool are easy to reach) , if you took the plane you can reach Barcelona and Madrid in less than 5 h (includes the transfer to the Airport). By American standards (I would imagine), the absolute top football clubs (worldwide) are packed together in a very small space.
Yellow???? Bitte berichtige das !
3:30 its common in european Football the away team arrives protected by police and early to the game, especially on international championships or specific rivalry. By the way, these are fans from my Home Team Borussia Dortmund. Like the Next at 3:54 as well... Most intimidating is the South Stand, die Südtribüne in our Stadium. Might wanna look for a compilation of choreographies from some of these Yellow an Black 24.454 People! :-)
These fans are a really great support for the Team.
You definitely have to watch a video of the ultras and choreographies of Borussia Dortmund (BvB). The "Yellow Wall" in the Westfalenstation is world-famous.
I love it. 5 days in the office and at the matchday a lot of energy needs to break out.
I am a fan of Borussia Mönchengladbach which you show in your video ....6:30minutes. Have been a fan for 40 years now. I am born not far from there. I must tell you tho that there is a ultra Kurve for example Die Nord Kurve and there you have theses Ultras. There are many more quiet areas for families and it is very safe to watch a game. 😊
i worked in the HSV Hamburg Stadium for about 4 years and in Berlin olympia stadium couple times. It was awesome! So nice atmosphere.
nice reaction! Hansa Rostock!!!! OLE! greets from germany, baltic coast
In Germany and most countries where football is so big, ultras live more than 90 minutes of watching football. They go to every game, make choreographies or new tifo material during the week. Especially the very hot choreographies, which sometimes cost 20-30,000 € depending on the situation and are only financed by the fans and then built themselves, are neglected in the video. Plus the pyrotechnics, which are forbidden but are a large part of fan culture. There are also occasional physical confrontations with opposing ultras and the police or prearranged fights.
those fires are obviously forbidden in the stadium, but it's hard to enforce that since there's just way too many fans in those stands and not enough security to safely remove them D: so in more extreme cases the clubs that those fans cheer for have to pay a fine
Great appetizer for todays Champions league semi final.
The club is part of the family. So it is a matter of the heart. It doesn't matter whether the club is doing well or badly. Club loyalty goes from the cradle to the grave. Every club has its own anthem. In the USA, people go to sports to see a show and to be seen.
That ist Schalke!⚒️💙🤍🤙😈 Greats from Germany!
Not all Ultra groups have to be separated. There are also long running friendships between fan groups of different teams. For example the fan friendship between KSC & Hertha BSC. 3 weeks ago 12‘000 marched together to the stadium after a joined fan festival the evening before:
ruclips.net/user/shortsAabD8zLVwBI?si=XXpG3QVCgEe63VbJ
2:57 (in this scene, they are Schalke fans) "imagine being a pro athlete"
ruclips.net/video/YBZS3EjnFpk/видео.html Schalke athletes hunted by their own "fans", because they descend from 1st division.
That first clip, from Schalke 04? They're the arch-enemies of my local football club (Borussia Dortmund, clip #3). When they played each other, people working with both fan groups in either city used to collect the Schalke Ultras at the train station and brought them to a place -- a field, or parking lot -- where "our" Ultras were already waiting. Then both groups were given permission to brawl, with medics and police present just in case. The rationale was to put a cap on possible aggression beforehand and keep it out of the stadium. Afterwards, they were marched separately to the stadium, watched the game and afterwards were brought back to that place to get rid of any frustration and anger by being permitted to brawl AGAIN.
No idea if they're still doing this, but a friend who worked for the municipal sports department said it worked, after a fashion. Meaning, no severe injuries, no property damage and everything was kept kinda, sorta, more or less ... uh, civilized? *whistles innocently*
Btw, the area for the local Borussia fans is known nationwide as "the yellow wall" (club colors are black and yellow) and are often considered to be the 12th player on the field because they can spur the team on so much
Oh, and they only sell drinks in plastic cups; players and/or referees have actually been injured when someone hurled a glass bottle onto the pitch. (One referee got hit in the face by a cigarette lighter once, too.) The guys in the yellow vests and helmets aren't police, but volunteer helpers who check for contraband -- like pyrotechnics and "weapons" like sticks or brass knuckles.
those are ultras u can watcha game chill in the opposite side of the stadium and watching this
spectacle from there while eating a hotdog with a coke. its all ur choise
The Funny thing is the first's video are not home games.
At Min 8:03 to min 10:59 are Fans from my all time Favorite Team 1.FC Köln (Cologne). The Mascot is a Goat called Hennes❤❤😊
1;40 - These are the away fans of Schalke being marched either to the stadium or to a train station to get to the stadium from there. Appears to be in Amsterdam. This is a common approach in European international games, since fans arrive from multiple directions by multiple means(trains, planes, cars) when it's an important game and there are lot of away fans are coming. Uefa says minimum 5% of capacity, so for most stadiums in Western Europe that would be around 3000-4000(more if agreement is reached between clubs). Police designates some gathering spot, usually a square in the touristy center, from where they do this organized march, called a "corteo". A lot of the terminology comes from Italy so it sounds italian - Ultra, tifo, corteo. So this Corteo achieves multiple goals at the same time. When all the fans are at the same place they get to have their fun and pose with "overtaking the city", have some beers, while being surrounded by Police to avoid any incidents with local fans actually happening. It's a bit foolish, but you get the best balance - make your presence known, without causing havoc like in 80s England.
In Europe you are born with love for your club. Your father was a fan, your grandpa, his father ...etc :). The club is "defending" the pride of your City. Its way more than just a sport for us.
8:53 its 1.FC Köln away in england.
10:45 all hairs stand.
FRANKFURT!!!🦅
The Copa90 channel has some great documentary TV style videos on their channel talking about the ultras more in depth, the history and lifestyle of the people and why they do what they do.
It's usually quite chill and family friendly too, there are certain areas for the ultras but there are also areas for families with kids. At most places at least.
Beside of one scene, this was all German Away Support in European Cup Tournaments.
The Ultras subculture is not really about "sports". It is more about identity, and it is highly territorial and sometimes generational. For the ultras, the game on the pitch is rather something like a proxy war than a "sport event". You can say it is "savage", but on the other hand it is also more "authentic" than the sterilized American sports events.
THIS! @IWrocker
yeah! you nailed it!!!!
3:52 That was 2013 in Wembley. BVB vs Bayern Munich. Unfortunately we've lost
The Euro finals are coming up mid June to mid July, the tournament will be held in Germany, this type of club support will be there, but this time, rival supporters of each nations clubs will put aside their differences and get together to support their Country, again is a magical moment, both on the Euro finals, as well as on the World cup finals.
In Italy we have the motto which states that the crowd and the ultras/fans of a soccer team is the 13th player on the field, after the 11 on the real pitch and the 12th, the coach of the team!!!
And it is rumored that Winston Churchill, once, said that we italians "Do fight real wars like soccer matches... And live soccer matches like they were real wars"!!!
To me, it sounds a little bit cocky and "poshily racist", as the brits themselves should say... But that explains how much deep our "soccer religion" is lived by us!!!
„Wir sind keine Fusballfans, sondern deutsche Hooligans“
For some videos you might want to have someone to give you context: as the comments say
this is german fans in england in away machtes
being louder and more "fanatic" then the more numerous local fans
Thats true love for the Team! Spend all ur little money to be part of ur Team every weekend.
Best beer in the world in your Background. Wolters Pilsener its from my hometown :) nice
The fan march was Schalke 04, when they have played in European Championships. Very old footage, as Schalke 04 is now playing in the second league. The stadium footage, first team is Borussia Dortmund and they are well known for their „yellow wall“ called fans. The stadium can have up to 80.000 fans. Next was Bayern Munich, Third was Borussia Mönchengladbach on a away match. The away team has about 5-10% capacity of the whole stadium capacity, where they are allowed to crowd in their team colors. Bengal fire is common with the ultras, however it is forbidden for obvious reason. Same for Fc Köln (Colone) and their fan march.
Entertainment vs. Passion. That's it.
Its important to say that these fans showed are away fans in an international game and not in their home ground/city. To have a parade with all awayfans together from the city center to the stadium of the opponent it is what fans do in football instead of tailgate in the US (what i find also really cool)
Fußball is really crazy in Germany AND in Britain as well!!! Well, they "invented" it, right?😂
For More Fun with FC KÖLN:
1. ruclips.net/video/bXhrPIJY7Qo/видео.htmlsi=15J7-SrrVppNz5W0
2. ruclips.net/video/XWcDAdwhkAA/видео.htmlsi=7O6Tu-zfO3FsuDzH
The one thing that catches my eyes... the Audi Quattro in the background 😍 when Walter and Michèle Mouton ruled the rally world 😎 #bePassionate 😉
the crazy thing is when the guest are winning in a stadium with 60 thousend people angry😂
but you have the ultras with you, some 5000 to 10 thousend, that give you suport😂
I'm from Germany but I'm an NFL fan and we're looking forward to more NFL games
Btw Schalke fans (first few clips) are insane: they now play 2nd division and their average attendance this season was 61,5k (10th worldwide)
Great video!
Now I haven't been to a match for a while, and every country & even every club is different. But in general : Visiting ultras are guided by police to and from and from the stadium . There is a part of the stadium for the Home team ultras and for the visiting ultras ( Other side of the field ).Then there's parts of the stadium for more modest fans, families with kids and such. There are different entrances to these sections. ( With empty sections in between if it's a explosive match ) So with high risk games, there are 'closed off' sections to keep home team ultras from clashing into the ultras from opposing team . It's the ultras that travel along with their club when they play in other stadiums.
Football or you call it Soccer is more than just a sport for us. It's Passion, it's joy, it's a Religion. (There first 3 Videoclips are my Club, FC Schalke 04)
You have to feel it yourself. A Tipp ... The most havy Partys are at and of the season... April to May... This is the time who everone get crazy.
Mind these are all ultras and in a soccer stadium they always group in one area like the Südkurve (southern corner). So if you want to enjoy the game a littler calmer you can just book another corner.
I love to see you Americans watch to German Ultras. I am one by myself, and I love it.
1. Fc Köln 🔴⚪
Mer stonn zu dir
rrooooot und wiss
Freue mich schon auf die Duelle gegen euch in der dritten.
@@JimmyS.25 Aww süß
I highly recommend that Top Gear Tunnel video of the Audi quattro S1! It's a bit off topic but it's great!
Now i am 50 years old,but in my "prime"as a Werder Fan between 15 and 35 the best was the away games.Not importend In the Bundesliga or UEFA or Championsleague.The group of comrads you build with them was fantastic.I think the biggest problems between this Fans in Europe and the americans,are the identify with the Club and not with a company.Now i read in the newspapers the Phoenix coyotes go away to Utah and next year they are the Utah Yetis or so.Thats why i much more like your College Sports.More Identify.And thats why nobody in Germany like the Football Company Red Bull Leipzig.
Regarding the first part, which would probably be a completely unfamiliar concept to Americans, but fans are actually walking to the stadium, making sure to celebrate their team on the way!!!
NBA fans switch their teams every season
Today you can watch history. Dortmund is taking over London. They are everywhere. Today is the peak of european football