Man these sativa gummies fucking smack. Took the whole thing bro. Hella trippin bro because i swear its like i got this inner monologue with family and friends.... Wait this isn' t the edibles. Holy fuck I'm in Instrumentality!
It’s kinda like if they binged a bunch of Stanley Kubrick movies and the Phantasm movies and decided to put elements of each of them in the show as they were snorting cocaine.
I honestly wished i watched this subbed first. Hearing all of this was definitely confusing for me, it felt like a huge onslaught on the senses,but reading it in subtitled form was so much easier! Now that i've truly experienced the ending, i can say its phenomenal. I've always loved Anno's sense of capturing the inner dialogue of the human mind and all the emotions that run along with it, and the last two episodes really put that into play. His sense of atmosphere is incredible all throughout Eva.
His character works so well, he's like the reflection of ourselves, hell even Anno, the director said that Shinji is himself. "What part do you hate from NGE?" Anno answered "The part when i see myself", it's Shinji. Shinji is also despised by thousands, thousands that hate Shinji, hate Shinji because he's a reflection of themselves, depressing and human, just like them.
@@yexas7029 me too. I need to find symbolsism and other meaning in this scene. I’m kinda stumped rn it’s really confusing but I guess I’m just gonna have to rewatch this scene for the next 5 hours
@@thisinnotmystomach6279 But the characters in Beserk aren't exactly "human" the same way Shinji is. They express human characteristics and emote like humans, but that isn't what the comment here was getting at. Shinji is quite literally a representation of us. Guts is a character you are supposed to have a retrospective on, Shinji is a character that makes you have an introspective. Beserk is great because of the characters it has, it isn't supposed to be fully human.
@@thisinnotmystomach6279 Not to say Beserk and its characters are any worse than NGE, quite the contrary. Each anime and its characters are great for wonderful reasons, one character being more human than another is never necessarily an insult or compliment.
Yeah, I agree. I'm still learning it, actually. I've never had particularly good self-esteem and growing up I was abused at home and even got picked on a little bit at school...
Ale Calderón Leal It took me so many years to learn to love myself, and I never would have if not for Neon Genesis Evangelion. I hated myself so very much, and had decided to kill myself, so I made a list of shows to watch before I hung myself. The last thing on that list was Neon Genesis Evangelion, and it saved me from myself.
This is the directors personal perspective of overcoming his great depression during the make of the series. The original NGE ending just resembles the personal conflict the director had and how he had overcome it. It all makes sense if you rewatch it a few times..
YES! EXACTLY! The whole anime is not that dark and depressing, the message behind it and specially parts like this one is actually really hopeful and bright. For me it's more like an empty canvas rather than a blank wall. I don't know how to explain this but Jason Mraz said it in an interview a few months ago, life is empty and meaningless, but that's not a bad thing, it's up to us to give it meaning, we are hungry for meaning, like an empty cup, it's up to you what you fill it up with.
It’s so sad to me he was sent death threats because of this and he made EoE to spite everyone. He must have felt so hurt that he put his whole experience with depression out there and so many people rejected it
@@MangoMagica He didn't make it to spite people. End of Evangelion was very, very true to the original concept for the ending. They ran out of budget and had to do an internal view of Third Impact instead of actually showing it on screen, which was fine because they'd intended to do that part anyway, they just had to extend it much further than intended. You can see large parts of the EoE story, including multiple deaths, in the anime ending. If all that was to spite the audience, it wouldn't have been in the "good" end. IMO EoE is the same timeline of events. The (majority of) the last two episodes happens during EoE, RIGHT BEFORE the real-life eyeball shows up. The eyeball is immediately after, and it represents Shinji waking up to reality after the "Congratulations" scene. The anime ending was internal - you have actualized, congratulations. The movie ending was external - you have actualized, good luck living in a world that is shit. The movie ending follows axiomatically from the TV ending. They are different perspectives on the same sequence of events. The anime portrayed actualization as liberating. The movie portrayed the fact that an actualized person still has to exist in a broken world. And that doesn't touch on the religious symbolism. Which, for the record, they claim is nonsense... but from the perspective of a certain religious sect, everything about that story, including the fact that the writers will not explain the symbolism and will instead explicitly tell you that it isn't there when it clearly is, weaves a very clear and much more complex interpretation of the narrative. But on that front, as Anno says, those are answers you have to find for yourself. Nah. EoE was the culmination of everything Anno was doing with that series. It was harsh because it was supposed to be harsh, not because he was angry. While I'm sure it irritated him that people didn't get it (and I'm sure it irritates him more that to this day most people still don't get EoE... and that they still think the Rebuilds are a rehash of the same ideas and not the very complex meta-narrative about the series itself and its fandom that he's clearly weaving...) I'd wager he was more excited he actually got to do the ending he wanted, than irritated at the reaction.
1 703 It means nothing to have majored in Philosophy. Anyone can get a piece of paper that says they are smart and can interpret philosophy, but the most intelligent philosophies come from the mouths of ordinary people whom are just as smart, if not smarter, than the person with the paper.
Aaron Landry Broke: Studying the perspectives and works of many and crafting your own ideas for years to understand human thought and condition Woke: Uh anyone can do it lol
Bidane Martinez-Huerta That’s one way of looking at it, but my comment was more about how brilliance can come from anywhere. In philosophy, this is exemplified by someone like Diogenes, whom was essentially a street bum that spoke words of wisdom and only owned a wooden bowl (for a short while at least).
Ai Ds Then you shouldn’t be watching a deconstruction. Gurren Lagann is probably more of what you were looking for, whereas Evangelion is much deeper or psychological rather
It really breaks my heart when people say "Shinji is a whiny bitch." He defiantly suffers from Hedgehog dilemma & is afraid to socialize with others! This is most likely because his father left him when he was a child, most kids that grow up without a father deal with people differently because they didn't have a father figure in there life to look up too. It's worth mentioning that Shinji's mother was for the most part not around, she was around when Shinji was was much younger but she's gone. Shinji doesn't want to polite unit 01 because he sees the world as it is, he's not getting anything out of it, his father still doesn't talk to him or want to live with nor does he have a special person in his life at all! He has low self esteem issues and can't express his feelings towards anyone. One parent is dead while the other like Rei instead of Shinji. So when I hear people say " Shinji is a whiny bitch." I hope people will look deeper into Shinji, because he's been threw a lot in his life!
My ex was like that, calling Shinji a whiny bitch and saying Grndo wasn’t so bad unironically. I’m glad that I’m no longer with him for other reasons but I feel like that was in a way, a sign that he couldn’t empathize or put himself in someone else’s shoes
There is no ”whiny bitch” in this world. Those whom we tend to call whiny bitches are people that have the wrong personality regarding the trouble they face ahead. The real whiny bithces are mostly sopiled brats and ”daddys girl” because they had someone to care for them and offred the all the needing. This is why they are those spoiled kids that sometimes grow into adults and annoy the people around them. Regarding Shinji, he is anothe story. As I said, he has ”the wrong” personality when fighting his own problems and goes ahead with inertia, without having a real purpose that he tries to achieve. Look at Asuka. She had a similar problem like Shinji, but her personality helped her face her problems and she did not care for most of the show. This is because she fought her problems with improving herself and aiming high, being the best and only the best. When Shinji overpassed her skills, she became like him, mentally brokedown. Because her will to continue living was killed by the simple fact that Shinji was improving. Regarding Shinji, his will was to be recognised and loved by others, but mostly by his father! His father was a dick(ok, he had his reasons, but still a dick)and that attitude towards parenting a child led his kid into looking for praise and the mention why he is important. Shinji wanted others to tell him his personna is impornant. But Everybody around him, (Asuka was a dick to him because she did not had a ”right personality” regarding helping someone with poor self esteem; Misato simply did not get involved into helping him mentally, she was just there to take care of him phisically, but almost no mental help; Rei was identityless, she had no personal thoughs and so she was not for much help) were not enough to make him feel that he matters. Look at Rei for example: Genbu made her feel important when she undertook that failed test because he sacrificed himself as a father to rescue her. He made Rei feel important. Nobody made Shinji feel important other than the guy who claimed he loves Shinji and he had to kill him in the end, complete mess up. In the end, Shinji had to go throught that weird simulation to accept that his personality in another world would have made him feel he matters truly.
i mean you can understand all these things and still think he's a whiny bitch. i feel like you guys dont realise that shinji isnt meant to be interpreted as a good person (at least not in EOE, hes mostly pretty innocent if a little misguided throughout NGE)
@@snafuet It depends a lot on the situation. There are times you are stubborn because you know you are right and a good, just person, but others make you feel worhless, bad and make you think you are the opposite of what you strive to become. Maybe Shinji admited that the diffrence between how others see him (a guy that needs help and will get throught it if he tries harder) and how he sees him (he admits he has to accept that he matters because he is a human) is not too diffrent. But there are other cases when you do your best and the only ones around you are dicks and bitches like Gendo or Asuka that only call you ”infantile crisis boy” or ”stoopid fool” and use you only because you are useful to them, but they refuse to payback as them being useful to you.
Basically me since I was bullied a lot in middle School. (I'm in 8th) Edit: 11th grade holy shit time flies... And as of now it's gotten worse but I'm still here
So, this is what Shinji is going through when he's part of the chicken soup thing. Then he comes out of it, passes out, chokes Asuka, stops, cries, and that's the end.
Yes. He goes through the stages of Grief of loss over himself, his own self image, and his coming to acceptance of giving up that concept of himself. For one brief moment, I turned to my friend who had brought me through my own existential struggle and I honestly would have choked him out as I blamed him for taking my self from me. I realized how wrong that was, that it was I who had given up myself, and I cried for blaming him.
"The only one who can take care of you and understand you is you, yourself." "So be good to yourself." -Wait, that's the meaning of Evangelion? -Always has been
I hear Anno gets frustrated each time people don't get what he thinks is obvious in his work, so he makes it again more weird and crazy than before and more obvious, but then people get obsessed with the imagery
@@quinnholloway5400 This scene takes place during the 3rd impact. Thanks to all the people's minds becoming one, Shinji can see how other characters think about him and realize he needs to change.
Dude, I rewatched NGE at the peak of my mental illness, the core of which was because I have a personality disorder that gives me an unstable self image. Anyways, I was watching this scene and something just clicked in my brain. It was like a switch turned on that let me finally understand what made me *me*. After watching this and having that revelation, it was like I did a complete 180° within a few months. I went from an asshole who had trouble controlling their emotions to being a relatively normal person. It was absolutely insane. It's been like 7 or 8 years and I'm so much better. I genuinely think NGE helped make me a better person, even if it's kinda embarrassing to say that.
Good on you for changing and taking that newfound insight as a foundation for that change. It's one thing to realize, but it is an entirely different story when it comes to acting upon it.
Hey man I'm happy for you! That's what I myself experienced and tried to convey in another comment- it takes time for these things to actually click. It's one thing to know that there is a better future for you that you can create, and it's another to actually feel it through and understand it. Seems crazy to me how it's likely that every person has to come to this realization by himself. Conveying this in words doesn't really work as it's not simply an idea, it's almost a state of being, an acceptance of something. I guess that's the reasons why it can be so hard to deal with things like these sometimes
Ive always said in episodes 7 to 15 Evangelion disguises itself as a traditional anime. It plays the part of the standard shonen plot, and gives you some nornalcy, so when they take it away in episode 16 (and never give it back) youre truly aware of what you lost
Aaron Salisbury so you don’t know about quantum particles behaving as waves, being everything and nothing all at once, basically in a state of juxtaposition. then once being observed, they’re forced to act like particles. basically like how shinji says if they’re all together as one after accepting human instrumentality, then do they even exist? and who is he really when everyone else sees him differently? aka. how we get different possible outcomes just by merely observing a quantum particle. i mean you would think there was a connection considering top, bottom, and strangeness were written on the walls of the room where rei was created lol.
If anything, this scene has more to do with overcoming mental illness and coping with rejection than with being philosophically and quantum mechanically "accurate" (Whatever the hell that's even supposed to mean)
TL; DW: It's better to have suffering with the possibility of happiness, better to have definition than ambiguity, better for there to be noise than comfortable silence, even if it hurts. Because silence is boring nothingness. Because love can only exist between distinct things. Because suffering is the cost of happiness. And it's worth paying. Even if others hurt you, even destroy you - you owe them everything. Without their lines to delineate your own shape, you are formless. You only have existence, and no meaning to attach to it. Everyone's truth is defined by everyone else's truth. When you unconditionally accept the truth of another, that is love. Completely independent truths, all different, all simultaneously true, all simultaneously accepted. What we seek is, has always been, will always be, the harmony that exists when separation is dissolved, without the ennui that comes from having no definition of the self. Life is the delineation of separate forms, love is learning not to reject the boundaries formed by that delineation, but instead to be thankful for the definition they provide and to work with them, instead of against them. And also, if everyone's Tang, then no one can drink it. Delicious, delicious Tang.
Yeah in terms of telling the story, it’s honestly pretty bad. But the messaging is honestly so good, it’s genuinely my favourite ending out of the 4 official ones
To be fair, you cant expect (most) 14-16 year olds to really appreciate this, let alone younger children. I think that is probably one of the main reasons why this ending got so much hate initially. Its only that we're older now that we can really appreciate this. Its kind of like the Matrix sequels, heavy philosophical and insightful ideas aimed at an audience that still have to ask to go to the bathroom at school, it just doesnt work. The content of the ending though, the way its presented and what its trying to say truly is beautiful
I first watched NGE when I was 7, and I'm 33 and still watching it. For some reason I always related to Shinji and his question about the human condition. To question your existence is halfway to feel truly alone, even in a room filled with people. Its beautiful and sad at the same time.
Dude I’m 12 and it feels so weird to understand this but be at an age that none of my friends could even comprehend the message of this anime. It’s just so fascinating to me and kind of funny how different I am from the rest of them just from this single anime.
@@horizonikiit's straight up intentional considering how well directed and animated the whole series was it wouldn't make sense to just "ran out of budget" in the last 2 episodes. Because they already would have saw this coming and adjust the resources according to the schedule and stuff. It's just intentional anyone with brain could tell but it's funny how confident some fan are spreading misinformation
Bruhh, that voice reminds me of my previous crush that rejected me before. Personally, Rei's beautiful voice is a bit traumatic for me. However yes I do like her voice. 💀
You forgot the Lacan, the founding father of semiotic, who study the origin of self and self-image. The part talks about others and mother, are classic illustration of his work. This animation is amazing in bring very deep philosophical theories into mainstream while discussing important issues many teenagers experiencing during growing up.
0:37 this portion perfectly describes the feeling I've always had when looking in the mirror. It's exactly what I mean when I say I'm not me. Eva might not be purely pointless confusion
Coming back to this show again. When I first watched it was a teenager and was relatively comfortable with myself. I had dreams and goals to look forward to. At the time, FLCL resonated with me more due to trying to fit in or be “cool.” Watching again now at 30, I have severe depression and have no aspirations anymore. Nothing panned out like I thought it would. I feel like I’m having an identity crisis everyday and I don’t relate to people. I feel so detached from myself and others. In short, this scene is hitting me like freight train and I’m bawling.
Damn man. Sorry that things didnt go as you had planned. I can definitely relate in some regard. This current world situation certainly doesnt help, either. I hope you can walk away from this with, and develop a newfound sense of identity, and persepctive. May you once again find your fire, live the person you were meant to become.
For many of us the difference between our child-selves and adult-selves is the loss of hope, of the idea that the future is welcoming and bright for us. And not to sound naive, it obviously isn't always the case, but to view it completely opposite and say that the good days are past and the future holds nothing for you is also ignorant of the different good things in life that can happen, will happen, and that are already present in one's life. We should all strive to regain a bit of that optimism that we lost sometime growing up. Hope all works well for you! Take care!
“So what i think of me is me, what i recognize as self is myself, im no more and no less then the sum of my self awareness, but i don’t understand myself.” damn 😭
@@SnausageVonBrathearst He is saying his perception of himself is who he is, but yet he believes he lacks an identity. He's likely going through an identity crisis.
I feel like Anno is talking to himself when I rewatch this Edit: I finally rewatched and finished the series, and I was ready to hate it. In the end, I found a mirror …..
Watching this anime genuinely helped me cope with depression and anxiety. I give it a watch every time I feel at my lowest, it’s therapeutic every time. Take care, whoever is reading this.
This scene helped me realize so much about myself, and whenever I am at a point of absolute helplessness I return to it, and it always makes me cry and realize and appreciate different aspects of it that I had not been able to grasp or learn from before...
I know this is weird but I saw your comment on this book like 8 months ago and I read it and it genuinely changed my life for the better thank you random internet person 🙏🙏
0:13 If you have notice, there is the shadow of his father, I think Shinji mean that he wanna be worth something enough to attract the attention of his father, but he don’t say it directly
Because people are stupid. This show has a very happy ending with acceptance with existence. And the simple positive message of “take care of yourself”
Watching these last few episodes is so comforting and feels like I’m in a therapy session. This is my favorite part of Evangelion. These last few episodes is so special you never really see anything like this in anime.
Taking in evangelion all at once. I love episode 25 and 26 and End of Evangelion. Nothing hits like their endings and I wouldn't have it any other way.
@@Al_musawi14 just because its "not supposed to" doesnt mean it cant. art has different effects on everyone what makes people laugh makes others cringe. what makes people confused makes others cry. its all about what perspective you have on life and whats going on in your universe the moment you come across the work
There are so many people in this world who hate themselves. They think they're worthless. Rei said in the ending scene that "if you do not love yourself, you won't be able to love others (or something along those lines)." I'm a Christian. I find value in myself for the fact that I can love myself and accept myself for who I am with the ability to show love and kindness to others through the Holy Spirit's love dwelling in me. If I was filled with hate and bitterness, I would be unable to love myself, and therefore wouldn't be able to love others and show them the kindness and appreciation that I share towards myself. Your self image...what's in your heart....is what makes you...you. If you close off yourself from others, you're insecure, and in a way reject yourself because you cannot get in touch with yourself or others. Deep isn't it?
Your value in life is determined by you. Why? Because your mind = your own world where you are limitless and can mold into whatever shape you wish. But if your own little world has nobody but you, you won't be special at all. No matter what shape you mold into or whatever value you assign yourself, if there is only you, there is no difference between you and mundane nothingness. The way to fix this is to introduce the influence of others and external factors in your little world. The presence of others distinguishes your identity, because now you can use the barriers between you and others to differentiate each of your identities. In other words, the presence of multiple people (rather than one being) allows distinct identities to exist. So: While it is true that your value in life is determined by *you*, if you are all that exists, your self-determined 'value' would be meaningless and completely un-special at the end of the day. To give meaning to that "value" you've given yourself, you need the presence of others to distinguish your identity.
Miles Upshur 2 no dawg it wasn't budget it was scheduling problems. Doesn't matter how much money you throw you can't animate an epic fight scene like in eoe in under a week or maybe less.
I first watched Evangelion when i was at my lowest, this scene, the entire ending made me so fucking depressed i went through a whole realization and self-care arc
this ending means a lot to me, i relate to shinji and the line “the only person who can understand you is you so take care of yourself” helps me be kinder to myself
Top notch 90's subtle denpa moment. Love that along with Lain, Tsui no Sora, Subahibi. Such weirdness of inner thoughts projecting the outer world and the outermost world. Always relating different realities into one; ours.
it feels very comforting that someone else has had the same thoughts i’ve had, i would constantly think we only exist because of others and their perceptions of us
I had to pause the first 5 times I watched this because it kept feeling like the show was reading my mind. I hated it. And that's why it's brilliant. IT brought on emotions and thoughts that no other anime had ever dared to attempt. And I respect it so much for that.
I know not many liked the ending but when I saw it I was amazed it was as if shinji had finally come to see himself in a way that he couldn’t have imagined a way that he couldn’t have seen without the people he met. I think that with everyone around and all the new people whom came to be his friends he realized “I’m not alone anymore.”
I thought I had not understood this anime, and thought it only left more depressed, and right now, after thinking I could feel no more, thinking I was totally depressed, and then I saw some Eva vids and I broke down in tears. I understood, not life, not me, not my feelings, but my worth. I understood that I choose my own path, and what makes my life worth to live is my will to live it, I can have the best life ever, I only need to live it and work hard, my life is worth living because I can learn to love myself, my life is worth living because I am me, and only myself can turn my life to the best turn. Evangelion isn't only about individuality, and giant robots, and it certainly isn't a anime that teaches you how to win against depression, but teaches you how to cope with it. Nothing in your life will take away your failures or bring back the "better days" but only yourself can choose to live, and even if you're at rock bottom, as long as you keep living, your life can be as good as you want it to be. You are yourself, and that makes you you. You are yourself, and that's what make you loveable. You are yourself, and that's what make your life worth living. So even if times are hard, live, until you love yourself, and until you can find your true happiness
i think the thing about this anime is that you dont understand anything the first time, but after pondering over it, rewatching would be the most hard hitting realizations ever
The first time I watched nge, I binge watched the entire thing and the movie while I was stoned affff. By the time I got to this part, it felt like my brain was just melting. The animations, the dialog, the music, it all just hit so perfect.
When I watched This for the first time, I didn’t really know what to make of it. I just took it at face value and accepted that is how it ended. But After watching it a second time, I fully understood what these last two episodes were trying to say. I used to suffer from depression and in a way I still do, but watching Eva again made me realize that everyone does have a purpose in this world weather we realize it or not. It just goes to show how much I love this series and that it’s my top favorite anime of all time for that reason.
This is me. This is the shape that let others recognize me as myself. It is my symbol for myself. This is, this is, and this is as well. Representations. Everything is merely a description, not the real myself. Everything is simply a shape, a form, an identifier to let others recognize me as me. Then what am I? Is this me? My true self? My fake self? What is it that I am? (Quiet) There’s little difference between how you Interpret yourself and how the others interpret you. Right... My clothes, my shoes, my room... These are all parts of what makes up myself These things are connected through your consciousness So what I think is me is me What I recognize as self is myself I′m no more and no less than the sum of myself But I don’t understand myself Where am I? What am I? What am I? The only one who can take care of You and understand you is, you, yourself So you must take care of yourself Treat your world as in a state of constant change Capable of change anytime your mind perceives these changes What is this? A world of nothing? A world with nobody in it? This is the world of perfect freedom Freedom? Perfect freedom A world in which you have no restrictions Is this really freedom? Yes... This what it is Now everyone in this world has nothing in it
Words cannot describe how much this show has changed my outlook on life and understanding myself. Me and my boyfriend watched it 6 months ago and only NOW did we just realize the series is an allegory of the human condition with metaphors of the Id, Ego, and Super Ego. The Eva represent the Id, the physical form we have with the most basic needs and basic savage instincts. The Eva pilots represent the Ego, the "us" within ourselves that control the vessel we have. It's our identity in the metaphysical without the vessel. Instrumentality represents the Super Ego, the force BEYOND the other 2. Rei, Asuka, and Shinji are representations of the disconnect between the 3, how not accepting the self as the whole causes sever problems. NGE has been the most human show I've ever watched, and has helped me understand myself in the deepest way nothing else ever had. Existing with others with pain and love is worth it everyone, truly love yourself. Because not existing at all with no identity is a fate worse than death.
Everything is simply a shape, a form, an identifier to let others recognize me as me. But then, what am I? is this me? My true self? My fake self? What is it that i am? nobody understand me!!!
You can finish watching Evangelion, but other thing is to understand Evangelion, when you finish Evangelion you just start the process, when you finish understanding Evangelion you can be free in your mind, you can start to be the real self you
The people that usually doesn’t appreciate this anime can hardly recognize that the anime isn’t just some weird mindfuckery or just about Shinji being a pussy. It’s one big mirror and I think some hated it for that. The characters aren’t just talking to each other. They’re talking to us. The questions of Shinji, hell even Asuka’s favorite line “What are you? Stupid?”
I'm 20 and feeling so lonely and draggef trough life that, i don't even know what am i, if my actions are truly mine or result of the influence of the others, people always seems to control me that i can't think of anything but revelry and frustation, i feel so disconnected from people around me that i only get to share my feelings on the internet. I know i have to love myself, that my life would be better if i was more risky, that i can know myself better looking at others, but i just feel like i have to digest these feelings now before moving on, because if not, it will grow into even scarier feelings when I'm older, i have perspectives, but i want to take care of myself first. I want to. It just feels like i stoped in time and it's frightening.
This abstraction is split in many ways for an individual that leads to one thing "no matter what don't disbelieve in yourself" that is what I think. While at it as of now eva journey is now over, seeing a man saying farewell to his emotion and we witnessing it. Thank you Mr. Anno now you can hit the beach rest for a while.
for a long time i couldnt understand why fans would hate the show's ending so deeply to the point where EoE was created, but then i realized something i should have known from countless time on forums and boards: anime fans can be incredibly stupid. i don't hate them though, because without them we wouldn't have EoE.
hmm i dunno if i felt that.. but when i was a teen late teen i suppose, this scene describes me, or the thoughts i felt, especially in their releation to the eva piloting.
@@BCantley im 14 and i love this scene because of how shinji learns that nobody can change him but himself. He learns that everyone cannot fully understand him so he has to understand himself so he can love himself more.
I'm not a weeb trying to pretend a japanese cartoon is some super-highbrow treatise on philosophy, but this is one cuts deep. It hurts to watch, but you simultaneously feel very understood. Author is sharing his pain with us and telling us that we're not truly alone.
"These edibles ain't shit"
Five minutes later:
Lmao
Everybody gangsta till the edibles kick in.
Man these sativa gummies fucking smack. Took the whole thing bro. Hella trippin bro because i swear its like i got this inner monologue with family and friends....
Wait this isn' t the edibles. Holy fuck I'm in Instrumentality!
“My life is worthless without it”
BWRAAAAAAAA
"I just finished watching Evangelion!"
"Congrats on your Psychology Major."
Ok
Lmao
Crippling depression is now the new Psychology Major
Omedetou
"Congratulations!"
"Congratulations!"
"Congratulations!"
I don't even care if it's because of budget issues I fucking love the weird abstract shit in the last couple episodes
Same here! Wouldn't rather have it any other way!
Agreed. It makes the episode better in my opinion
It’s kinda like if they binged a bunch of Stanley Kubrick movies and the Phantasm movies and decided to put elements of each of them in the show as they were snorting cocaine.
Actually no, they ran out of time, not money
More of a time restraint, but still amazing lmao
I always loved how serious it starts with shinji then asuka comes out of no where *WHAT ARE YOUU, STOOPID??*
Shut up Malfoy
Rei best girl
Asuka is the best girl
I honestly wished i watched this subbed first. Hearing all of this was definitely confusing for me, it felt like a huge onslaught on the senses,but reading it in subtitled form was so much easier!
Now that i've truly experienced the ending, i can say its phenomenal. I've always loved Anno's sense of capturing the inner dialogue of the human mind and all the emotions that run along with it, and the last two episodes really put that into play. His sense of atmosphere is incredible all throughout Eva.
Oh whoops. Meant that as an original comment. But doesn't matter much i guess.
Also Misato is best girl
"I wanna be worth enough to attract the attention of others."
Same.
"i wanna be a real by"
His character works so well, he's like the reflection of ourselves, hell even Anno, the director said that Shinji is himself.
"What part do you hate from NGE?"
Anno answered "The part when i see myself", it's Shinji. Shinji is also despised by thousands, thousands that hate Shinji, hate Shinji because he's a reflection of themselves, depressing and human, just like them.
Al Cee Productions Shinji is the reason for why I love this anime.
You already are lol
Same bro, same ;-;
Imagine if english teachers discovered evangelion
lmaoo i'm using this scene for an english project rn
@@yexas7029 how did it go
lmaoooooooooo
@@yexas7029 me too. I need to find symbolsism and other meaning in this scene. I’m kinda stumped rn it’s really confusing but I guess I’m just gonna have to rewatch this scene for the next 5 hours
@@yexas7029 how did it go
Shinji is genuinely the most human character I’ve ever seen in any media.
no shit that was the point
have you read berserk
@@thisinnotmystomach6279 But the characters in Beserk aren't exactly "human" the same way Shinji is. They express human characteristics and emote like humans, but that isn't what the comment here was getting at. Shinji is quite literally a representation of us. Guts is a character you are supposed to have a retrospective on, Shinji is a character that makes you have an introspective. Beserk is great because of the characters it has, it isn't supposed to be fully human.
@@memesarekeemi guess
@@thisinnotmystomach6279 Not to say Beserk and its characters are any worse than NGE, quite the contrary. Each anime and its characters are great for wonderful reasons, one character being more human than another is never necessarily an insult or compliment.
What a wonderful ending!
"Take care of yourself" such a simple message, and yet, for some people, like me, it has taken me a lot of time to learn it.
Ale Calderón Leal Indeed.
Yeah, I agree. I'm still learning it, actually. I've never had particularly good self-esteem and growing up I was abused at home and even got picked on a little bit at school...
Ale Calderón Leal It took me so many years to learn to love myself, and I never would have if not for Neon Genesis Evangelion. I hated myself so very much, and had decided to kill myself, so I made a list of shows to watch before I hung myself. The last thing on that list was Neon Genesis Evangelion, and it saved me from myself.
I cried a lot
It’s good to feel relatable and know there’s a way
This is the directors personal perspective of overcoming his great depression during the make of the series. The original NGE ending just resembles the personal conflict the director had and how he had overcome it. It all makes sense if you rewatch it a few times..
The series is basically a psychoanalysis of Anno's mental state at the time especially from 16 - 26
YES! EXACTLY! The whole anime is not that dark and depressing, the message behind it and specially parts like this one is actually really hopeful and bright. For me it's more like an empty canvas rather than a blank wall. I don't know how to explain this but Jason Mraz said it in an interview a few months ago, life is empty and meaningless, but that's not a bad thing, it's up to us to give it meaning, we are hungry for meaning, like an empty cup, it's up to you what you fill it up with.
It’s so sad to me he was sent death threats because of this and he made EoE to spite everyone. He must have felt so hurt that he put his whole experience with depression out there and so many people rejected it
@@MangoMagica He didn't make it to spite people.
End of Evangelion was very, very true to the original concept for the ending. They ran out of budget and had to do an internal view of Third Impact instead of actually showing it on screen, which was fine because they'd intended to do that part anyway, they just had to extend it much further than intended.
You can see large parts of the EoE story, including multiple deaths, in the anime ending. If all that was to spite the audience, it wouldn't have been in the "good" end.
IMO EoE is the same timeline of events. The (majority of) the last two episodes happens during EoE, RIGHT BEFORE the real-life eyeball shows up. The eyeball is immediately after, and it represents Shinji waking up to reality after the "Congratulations" scene.
The anime ending was internal - you have actualized, congratulations. The movie ending was external - you have actualized, good luck living in a world that is shit. The movie ending follows axiomatically from the TV ending. They are different perspectives on the same sequence of events. The anime portrayed actualization as liberating. The movie portrayed the fact that an actualized person still has to exist in a broken world.
And that doesn't touch on the religious symbolism. Which, for the record, they claim is nonsense... but from the perspective of a certain religious sect, everything about that story, including the fact that the writers will not explain the symbolism and will instead explicitly tell you that it isn't there when it clearly is, weaves a very clear and much more complex interpretation of the narrative. But on that front, as Anno says, those are answers you have to find for yourself.
Nah. EoE was the culmination of everything Anno was doing with that series. It was harsh because it was supposed to be harsh, not because he was angry.
While I'm sure it irritated him that people didn't get it (and I'm sure it irritates him more that to this day most people still don't get EoE... and that they still think the Rebuilds are a rehash of the same ideas and not the very complex meta-narrative about the series itself and its fandom that he's clearly weaving...) I'd wager he was more excited he actually got to do the ending he wanted, than irritated at the reaction.
@@kamenridergnostikos4084 Well put, really makes me respect Anno even more
everyone in the comment section suddenly has a philosophy major
I have a minor in it does that count
1 703 It means nothing to have majored in Philosophy. Anyone can get a piece of paper that says they are smart and can interpret philosophy, but the most intelligent philosophies come from the mouths of ordinary people whom are just as smart, if not smarter, than the person with the paper.
Aaron Landry
Broke: Studying the perspectives and works of many and crafting your own ideas for years to understand human thought and condition
Woke: Uh anyone can do it lol
Bidane Martinez-Huerta That’s one way of looking at it, but my comment was more about how brilliance can come from anywhere. In philosophy, this is exemplified by someone like Diogenes, whom was essentially a street bum that spoke words of wisdom and only owned a wooden bowl (for a short while at least).
that's a thing?
Jesus Christ it's taken me 4 years to truly come to respect and appreciate what they did here. I'm pretty annoyed at myself about that.
I watched it as an adult, I never understood why these last two were the 'bad' episodes tbh
Has it taken you this long to realize that?
*wHaT aN iDiOt*
Same, such an underrated part of the series
Homie, I just wanted to see some transformers fighting n shit. I aint tryna figure out my inner self.
Ai Ds Then you shouldn’t be watching a deconstruction. Gurren Lagann is probably more of what you were looking for, whereas Evangelion is much deeper or psychological rather
Anime ending: Take care of yourself.
EoE: Take care of yourself, or you'll become like Shinji
If shinji drank the primordial orange juice at the EoE then would it be considered cannibalism
@@popeval6654 Technically
EoE is much darker and depressing
Anime Ending makes me feel a little more hope
But EoE just gives me a Crisis and makes me emotionally unstable
On the surface yea it seems like it but it's actually a happy ending yet bleak
@@big-loss_9043 It's up to interpretation
It really breaks my heart when people say "Shinji is a whiny bitch." He defiantly suffers from Hedgehog dilemma & is afraid to socialize with others! This is most likely because his father left him when he was a child, most kids that grow up without a father deal with people differently because they didn't have a father figure in there life to look up too. It's worth mentioning that Shinji's mother was for the most part not around, she was around when Shinji was was much younger but she's gone. Shinji doesn't want to polite unit 01 because he sees the world as it is, he's not getting anything out of it, his father still doesn't talk to him or want to live with nor does he have a special person in his life at all! He has low self esteem issues and can't express his feelings towards anyone. One parent is dead while the other like Rei instead of Shinji. So when I hear people say " Shinji is a whiny bitch." I hope people will look deeper into Shinji, because he's been threw a lot in his life!
@Denmark Empire true.
My ex was like that, calling Shinji a whiny bitch and saying Grndo wasn’t so bad unironically. I’m glad that I’m no longer with him for other reasons but I feel like that was in a way, a sign that he couldn’t empathize or put himself in someone else’s shoes
There is no ”whiny bitch” in this world. Those whom we tend to call whiny bitches are people that have the wrong personality regarding the trouble they face ahead. The real whiny bithces are mostly sopiled brats and ”daddys girl” because they had someone to care for them and offred the all the needing. This is why they are those spoiled kids that sometimes grow into adults and annoy the people around them. Regarding Shinji, he is anothe story. As I said, he has ”the wrong” personality when fighting his own problems and goes ahead with inertia, without having a real purpose that he tries to achieve. Look at Asuka. She had a similar problem like Shinji, but her personality helped her face her problems and she did not care for most of the show. This is because she fought her problems with improving herself and aiming high, being the best and only the best. When Shinji overpassed her skills, she became like him, mentally brokedown. Because her will to continue living was killed by the simple fact that Shinji was improving. Regarding Shinji, his will was to be recognised and loved by others, but mostly by his father! His father was a dick(ok, he had his reasons, but still a dick)and that attitude towards parenting a child led his kid into looking for praise and the mention why he is important. Shinji wanted others to tell him his personna is impornant. But Everybody around him, (Asuka was a dick to him because she did not had a ”right personality” regarding helping someone with poor self esteem; Misato simply did not get involved into helping him mentally, she was just there to take care of him phisically, but almost no mental help; Rei was identityless, she had no personal thoughs and so she was not for much help) were not enough to make him feel that he matters. Look at Rei for example: Genbu made her feel important when she undertook that failed test because he sacrificed himself as a father to rescue her. He made Rei feel important. Nobody made Shinji feel important other than the guy who claimed he loves Shinji and he had to kill him in the end, complete mess up. In the end, Shinji had to go throught that weird simulation to accept that his personality in another world would have made him feel he matters truly.
"Shinji is a whiny bitch" can be directly translated to "I don't comprehend the human experience."
i mean you can understand all these things and still think he's a whiny bitch. i feel like you guys dont realise that shinji isnt meant to be interpreted as a good person (at least not in EOE, hes mostly pretty innocent if a little misguided throughout NGE)
“there’s little difference between how you interpret yourself and how the others interpret you”
If only, if only...
@@snafuet It depends a lot on the situation. There are times you are stubborn because you know you are right and a good, just person, but others make you feel worhless, bad and make you think you are the opposite of what you strive to become. Maybe Shinji admited that the diffrence between how others see him (a guy that needs help and will get throught it if he tries harder) and how he sees him (he admits he has to accept that he matters because he is a human) is not too diffrent. But there are other cases when you do your best and the only ones around you are dicks and bitches like Gendo or Asuka that only call you ”infantile crisis boy” or ”stoopid fool” and use you only because you are useful to them, but they refuse to payback as them being useful to you.
@@dastanjan320 And also becoming better than Auska and having her get depressed and starved because of it
There are 2 types of evangelion videos:
Meme
Psychologically damaging scenes from the series
Anyone with any type of depression will relate to this.
well nah
This is the truth
Basically me since I was bullied a lot in middle School. (I'm in 8th)
Edit: 11th grade holy shit time flies... And as of now it's gotten worse but I'm still here
This is true for everyone, not just people with depression.
I don’t have depression but can relate to this. Anyone can relate to this
So, this is what Shinji is going through when he's part of the chicken soup thing. Then he comes out of it, passes out, chokes Asuka, stops, cries, and that's the end.
Pleasant Whale heh. Chicken soup.
Chicken suup is tasty
And then, hopefully, they try and be together.
Nowhere Man I imagine an awkward like two week period of just not talking to each other
Yes. He goes through the stages of Grief of loss over himself, his own self image, and his coming to acceptance of giving up that concept of himself.
For one brief moment, I turned to my friend who had brought me through my own existential struggle and I honestly would have choked him out as I blamed him for taking my self from me. I realized how wrong that was, that it was I who had given up myself, and I cried for blaming him.
"The only one who can take care of you and understand you is you, yourself."
"So be good to yourself."
-Wait, that's the meaning of Evangelion?
-Always has been
I hear Anno gets frustrated each time people don't get what he thinks is obvious in his work, so he makes it again more weird and crazy than before and more obvious, but then people get obsessed with the imagery
Grognak The Wise
And then 3rd Impact happened and everyone Fucking Dies and becomes Primordal Soup
@@quinnholloway5400 This scene takes place during the 3rd impact. Thanks to all the people's minds becoming one, Shinji can see how other characters think about him and realize he needs to change.
So, is Anno a Journey fan?
I just divided by zero
Woah
Morgan lemons 2?
Chump numbers
I mean, eoe does reference division by 0
Underrated comment
Dude, I rewatched NGE at the peak of my mental illness, the core of which was because I have a personality disorder that gives me an unstable self image. Anyways, I was watching this scene and something just clicked in my brain. It was like a switch turned on that let me finally understand what made me *me*.
After watching this and having that revelation, it was like I did a complete 180° within a few months. I went from an asshole who had trouble controlling their emotions to being a relatively normal person. It was absolutely insane.
It's been like 7 or 8 years and I'm so much better. I genuinely think NGE helped make me a better person, even if it's kinda embarrassing to say that.
Good on you for changing and taking that newfound insight as a foundation for that change. It's one thing to realize, but it is an entirely different story when it comes to acting upon it.
Hey man I'm happy for you! That's what I myself experienced and tried to convey in another comment- it takes time for these things to actually click. It's one thing to know that there is a better future for you that you can create, and it's another to actually feel it through and understand it.
Seems crazy to me how it's likely that every person has to come to this realization by himself. Conveying this in words doesn't really work as it's not simply an idea, it's almost a state of being, an acceptance of something. I guess that's the reasons why it can be so hard to deal with things like these sometimes
if you had trouble to control emotions due to personality disoerder it's ain't really your fault but glad you did something to make you feel better
Im so happy to read this comment
Hope you're doing well, random internet dude
Epic moment
1-15 ep: Ok this is normal, why the people say this is a weird anime.
16-26 ep: *oh*
episode 2 unit 01 looks at shinji.
EoE: *OH*
@@brettwriteroh.. Oh OHHHHHHH
And then there’s thrice upon a time with the fever dream imaginary Eva 💀
Ive always said in episodes 7 to 15 Evangelion disguises itself as a traditional anime. It plays the part of the standard shonen plot, and gives you some nornalcy, so when they take it away in episode 16 (and never give it back) youre truly aware of what you lost
It’s so cool that this scene isn’t just accurate in a philosophical sense, but it also is accurate in a quantum physics sense.
Found the guy who doesn't know anything about quantum physics
Aaron Salisbury so you don’t know about quantum particles behaving as waves, being everything and nothing all at once, basically in a state of juxtaposition. then once being observed, they’re forced to act like particles. basically like how shinji says if they’re all together as one after accepting human instrumentality, then do they even exist? and who is he really when everyone else sees him differently? aka. how we get different possible outcomes just by merely observing a quantum particle. i mean you would think there was a connection considering top, bottom, and strangeness were written on the walls of the room where rei was created lol.
@@crabsnack8365 Yup
@@uruglytoo from these other comments it seems like u don’t under quantum physics
If anything, this scene has more to do with overcoming mental illness and coping with rejection than with being philosophically and quantum mechanically "accurate" (Whatever the hell that's even supposed to mean)
TL; DW:
It's better to have suffering with the possibility of happiness, better to have definition than ambiguity, better for there to be noise than comfortable silence, even if it hurts.
Because silence is boring nothingness. Because love can only exist between distinct things. Because suffering is the cost of happiness. And it's worth paying.
Even if others hurt you, even destroy you - you owe them everything. Without their lines to delineate your own shape, you are formless. You only have existence, and no meaning to attach to it.
Everyone's truth is defined by everyone else's truth. When you unconditionally accept the truth of another, that is love. Completely independent truths, all different, all simultaneously true, all simultaneously accepted.
What we seek is, has always been, will always be, the harmony that exists when separation is dissolved, without the ennui that comes from having no definition of the self.
Life is the delineation of separate forms, love is learning not to reject the boundaries formed by that delineation, but instead to be thankful for the definition they provide and to work with them, instead of against them.
And also, if everyone's Tang, then no one can drink it.
Delicious, delicious Tang.
true
I really felt that part about the Tang
Somehow the tang metaphor gets it perfectly and that is a beautiful thing
Thanks, now do you have a TL;DR for that?
Holy fuck this makes sense
crayons is pretty good for animation gotta be honest
Samzhere I thought it was pen and marker
Prisma Markers
I thought it was markers
Copic markers
I loved the animation in Your Name after he drinks Saki and sees her history and life.
Maturing is realising this was a good ending to the series.
Fr when I first watched it this pissed me off but seeing this again rn I think I’ve found a new appreciation for this ending
Yeah in terms of telling the story, it’s honestly pretty bad. But the messaging is honestly so good, it’s genuinely my favourite ending out of the 4 official ones
Don't know why/ what's the reason people didn't get that
well ofc it was
but End of Evangelion is badass
This scene changed my life
what series is this?
@@tokyomachine7435 evangelion
@@xiaoneighya :/
Same
Mine too
To be fair, you cant expect (most) 14-16 year olds to really appreciate this, let alone younger children. I think that is probably one of the main reasons why this ending got so much hate initially. Its only that we're older now that we can really appreciate this. Its kind of like the Matrix sequels, heavy philosophical and insightful ideas aimed at an audience that still have to ask to go to the bathroom at school, it just doesnt work. The content of the ending though, the way its presented and what its trying to say truly is beautiful
As a 17 year old who suffers for anxiety around people, this really hit home for me. So, I gotta disagree.
@@dumpydapillow8519 well the commenter wasn’t talking about about 17 year olds were they lmao
@@bonelessmice6828 Lol okay buddy
I first watched NGE when I was 7, and I'm 33 and still watching it.
For some reason I always related to Shinji and his question about the human condition. To question your existence is halfway to feel truly alone, even in a room filled with people. Its beautiful and sad at the same time.
Dude I’m 12 and it feels so weird to understand this but be at an age that none of my friends could even comprehend the message of this anime. It’s just so fascinating to me and kind of funny how different I am from the rest of them just from this single anime.
THIS IS THE IDEAL WAY OF ANIMATION. YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT THIS IS PEAK ARTISTIC PERFORMANCE.
this isn’t bcuz of an artistic decision the show is ran out of budget 😂
@@8johhlooks pretty intentional to me
@@JustAsh001same. Watched this 10 years ago and perceived as peak expression. Evangelion has always been an auteur’s grand work
@@horizonikiit's straight up intentional considering how well directed and animated the whole series was it wouldn't make sense to just "ran out of budget" in the last 2 episodes. Because they already would have saw this coming and adjust the resources according to the schedule and stuff. It's just intentional anyone with brain could tell but it's funny how confident some fan are spreading misinformation
Am i the only one who loves Rei's voice? It's so smooth and relaxing
Same
But her voice is kinda emotionless
Bruhh, that voice reminds me of my previous crush that rejected me before. Personally, Rei's beautiful voice is a bit traumatic for me. However yes I do like her voice.
💀
@@theasianboy315 oh i'm sorry bro :/what a pitty that such a beautiful voice means that for you
@@ליאורו-ט3ו wife-able activities
I am I, but I need others to recognize myself as an individual. Without others I am indistinguishable from nothing.
That's why he rejects instrumentality
But i thought he didnt want to be an individual??
@@everygrillindude5317 The last two episodes and EoE are his journey of accepting individuality
Aw don’t talk to yourself like that! I’m sure you’ll find your light and identity soon! Just let yourself feel every emotion as a start! ✨👑💖🌈🍬😊🙏🌈🔥💪
@@Fallograme they were quoting the video lol
Bruh, that was some deep shit.
+Hennessy Bambaataa: Reviewer At Large have you seen the anime? the whole thing is a total mind fuck.....which is why i like it so much.
Thank you for your insightful comment🙏
Sartre, Descartes, Socrates, Hegel... all great philosophers but none of them were as wise as Asuka Langley.
You forgot the Lacan, the founding father of semiotic, who study the origin of self and self-image. The part talks about others and mother, are classic illustration of his work. This animation is amazing in bring very deep philosophical theories into mainstream while discussing important issues many teenagers experiencing during growing up.
"What an idiot!" - Asuka
@@KoeSeer Based
Anta baka
Alan watts helped me truly understand
I was very confused as why Evangelion has so much merchandise when the show itself doesn't seem very marketable other than haha cool robot
It also has cute girls so there's that at least.
and haha cute waifus
@@cry_stalll theyre 14
@@piinko _i know_
@@cry_stalll ew
I'd say that Shinji is so strong not only as a pilot but as a human. He battles not only angels but also his human struggles silently.
0:37 this portion perfectly describes the feeling I've always had when looking in the mirror. It's exactly what I mean when I say I'm not me. Eva might not be purely pointless confusion
Coming back to this show again. When I first watched it was a teenager and was relatively comfortable with myself. I had dreams and goals to look forward to. At the time, FLCL resonated with me more due to trying to fit in or be “cool.”
Watching again now at 30, I have severe depression and have no aspirations anymore. Nothing panned out like I thought it would. I feel like I’m having an identity crisis everyday and I don’t relate to people. I feel so detached from myself and others.
In short, this scene is hitting me like freight train and I’m bawling.
Damn man. Sorry that things didnt go as you had planned. I can definitely relate in some regard. This current world situation certainly doesnt help, either. I hope you can walk away from this with, and develop a newfound sense of identity, and persepctive. May you once again find your fire, live the person you were meant to become.
For many of us the difference between our child-selves and adult-selves is the loss of hope, of the idea that the future is welcoming and bright for us. And not to sound naive, it obviously isn't always the case, but to view it completely opposite and say that the good days are past and the future holds nothing for you is also ignorant of the different good things in life that can happen, will happen, and that are already present in one's life.
We should all strive to regain a bit of that optimism that we lost sometime growing up.
Hope all works well for you! Take care!
It’s not too late
God bless you .
The writing of this show is incredible. Such deep messages about the true self (what's me) perception and recognition in only 5mins
The ADV dub script is very good despite a couple mistranslations
I don’t care absolutely what anyone says, this scene is a true masterpiece
“So what i think of me is me, what i recognize as self is myself, im no more and no less then the sum of my self awareness, but i don’t understand myself.”
damn 😭
that line is confusing what the fuck is he saying?
@@SnausageVonBrathearst He is saying his perception of himself is who he is, but yet he believes he lacks an identity. He's likely going through an identity crisis.
This was my english teacher’s favourite anime. He passed away last year. R.I.P. Teach.
"No Budget" my ass. This is Fine Art.
I feel like Anno is talking to himself when I rewatch this
Edit: I finally rewatched and finished the series, and I was ready to hate it. In the end, I found a mirror …..
He is.
For sure
He is
Watching this anime genuinely helped me cope with depression and anxiety. I give it a watch every time I feel at my lowest, it’s therapeutic every time.
Take care, whoever is reading this.
This scene helped me realize so much about myself, and whenever I am at a point of absolute helplessness I return to it, and it always makes me cry and realize and appreciate different aspects of it that I had not been able to grasp or learn from before...
Shinji, Asuka, and Gendo need to read The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem
Nah, people need the Five Pillars of Islam
Hahahhaa
Every character in the show should read it, except maybe Kaworu.
@@theultimategamer8537 Good 'ol altruistic boi Kaworu
I know this is weird but I saw your comment on this book like 8 months ago and I read it and it genuinely changed my life for the better thank you random internet person 🙏🙏
Depression makes you question your very existence. I'm glad I seeked help and got on the right meds. I can finally figure myself out..
I love the existential message they are giving
0:13 If you have notice, there is the shadow of his father, I think Shinji mean that he wanna be worth something enough to attract the attention of his father, but he don’t say it directly
Your grammar is wild
@@PanfluteExpedition_ Yours as well
Hmm, good analysis there🧐
@@PanfluteExpedition_ said the person who can't difference "your" from "you're" 🥶
@@PanfluteExpedition_Sorry English is not my first language Im French and still trying to learn English 😅
I absolutely do not understand how someone can hear Yui’s words to Shinji and not think the series has a positive message and ending.
Because people are stupid. This show has a very happy ending with acceptance with existence. And the simple positive message of “take care of yourself”
i love yui shes pretty
@@ian09dbzfr
the only one that can truly understand you and take care of you is you, so take care of yourself.
Watching these last few episodes is so comforting and feels like I’m in a therapy session. This is my favorite part of Evangelion. These last few episodes is so special you never really see anything like this in anime.
Taking in evangelion all at once. I love episode 25 and 26 and End of Evangelion. Nothing hits like their endings and I wouldn't have it any other way.
this scene always makes me cry
what episode was this i watched the series but don’t remember seeing it?
@@elexiusyork8052 26
It's not supposed to make you cry
@@Al_musawi14 just because its "not supposed to" doesnt mean it cant. art has different effects on everyone
what makes people laugh makes others cringe. what makes people confused makes others cry. its all about what perspective you have on life and whats going on in your universe the moment you come across the work
@@picklle I'm gonna ignore that paragraph and i agree with everything you said even if i don't know what you said
There are so many people in this world who hate themselves. They think they're worthless. Rei said in the ending scene that "if you do not love yourself, you won't be able to love others (or something along those lines)." I'm a Christian. I find value in myself for the fact that I can love myself and accept myself for who I am with the ability to show love and kindness to others through the Holy Spirit's love dwelling in me. If I was filled with hate and bitterness, I would be unable to love myself, and therefore wouldn't be able to love others and show them the kindness and appreciation that I share towards myself. Your self image...what's in your heart....is what makes you...you. If you close off yourself from others, you're insecure, and in a way reject yourself because you cannot get in touch with yourself or others. Deep isn't it?
imagine if shinji and lain got in an argument
Imagine listening to it without weed
@@OriLariTFTso true
idc what people say, the last 2 episodes are some of the best
I watched this off a tab and it reoriented my neurochemistry
Your value in life is determined by you.
Why? Because your mind = your own world where you are limitless and can mold into whatever shape you wish.
But if your own little world has nobody but you, you won't be special at all. No matter what shape you mold into or whatever value you assign yourself, if there is only you, there is no difference between you and mundane nothingness.
The way to fix this is to introduce the influence of others and external factors in your little world. The presence of others distinguishes your identity, because now you can use the barriers between you and others to differentiate each of your identities. In other words, the presence of multiple people (rather than one being) allows distinct identities to exist.
So: While it is true that your value in life is determined by *you*, if you are all that exists, your self-determined 'value' would be meaningless and completely un-special at the end of the day. To give meaning to that "value" you've given yourself, you need the presence of others to distinguish your identity.
This is why Evangelion is my favorite show of all time.
I thought this anime was about giant mechs and monsters.
But it isn't, it's a commentary on life
1:28 WHAT AM I ❓❓❓❓🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥
I AM
If you set the video to 0.25 speed between 0:35 and 0:40 and watch carefully, you'll catch the precise moment that Gainax's animation budget ran out.
it being popular after and during its airing doesn't change the budget
That’s not the budget. He intentionally made it like that to add to the feeling.
Miles Upshur 2 no dawg it wasn't budget it was scheduling problems. Doesn't matter how much money you throw you can't animate an epic fight scene like in eoe in under a week or maybe less.
supertechnoman11 he literally made EoE because he wasn't happy with the series ending... the hell you on about?
Wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttt, wwwwwhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaatttttt iiiiiiiiiisssssssss tttttthhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssss?
I first watched Evangelion when i was at my lowest, this scene, the entire ending made me so fucking depressed i went through a whole realization and self-care arc
POV: you are about to fall asleep
this ending means a lot to me, i relate to shinji and the line “the only person who can understand you is you so take care of yourself” helps me be kinder to myself
i love evangelion but i just wish i could read the phrases in japanese
use english subtitles, then.
The original DVD versions of these scenes had English text on screen.
The directors cut release left the text untouched.
All of the characters in this anime are so relatable
Top notch 90's subtle denpa moment. Love that along with Lain, Tsui no Sora, Subahibi. Such weirdness of inner thoughts projecting the outer world and the outermost world. Always relating different realities into one; ours.
Facts. Love the themes about our subjective experiences vs. objective reality.
Denpa peak
I love the sudden style change, something about it just hits diff
This feels like a low budget therapy session
literally
it feels very comforting that someone else has had the same thoughts i’ve had, i would constantly think we only exist because of others and their perceptions of us
I had to pause the first 5 times I watched this because it kept feeling like the show was reading my mind. I hated it. And that's why it's brilliant. IT brought on emotions and thoughts that no other anime had ever dared to attempt. And I respect it so much for that.
one of the GOAT eva scenes no doubt
I know not many liked the ending but when I saw it I was amazed it was as if shinji had finally come to see himself in a way that he couldn’t have imagined a way that he couldn’t have seen without the people he met. I think that with everyone around and all the new people whom came to be his friends he realized “I’m not alone anymore.”
3:19 "But now you feel easier, don't you? Because you have less to trouble your mind."
I thought I had not understood this anime, and thought it only left more depressed, and right now, after thinking I could feel no more, thinking I was totally depressed, and then I saw some Eva vids and I broke down in tears. I understood, not life, not me, not my feelings, but my worth. I understood that I choose my own path, and what makes my life worth to live is my will to live it, I can have the best life ever, I only need to live it and work hard, my life is worth living because I can learn to love myself, my life is worth living because I am me, and only myself can turn my life to the best turn.
Evangelion isn't only about individuality, and giant robots, and it certainly isn't a anime that teaches you how to win against depression, but teaches you how to cope with it. Nothing in your life will take away your failures or bring back the "better days" but only yourself can choose to live, and even if you're at rock bottom, as long as you keep living, your life can be as good as you want it to be. You are yourself, and that makes you you. You are yourself, and that's what make you loveable. You are yourself, and that's what make your life worth living. So even if times are hard, live, until you love yourself, and until you can find your true happiness
I can't with those fuckin walking sounds 💀
i think the thing about this anime is that you dont understand anything the first time, but after pondering over it, rewatching would be the most hard hitting realizations ever
The first time I watched nge, I binge watched the entire thing and the movie while I was stoned affff. By the time I got to this part, it felt like my brain was just melting. The animations, the dialog, the music, it all just hit so perfect.
One of the best scenes in anime, with such a simple message but many, don't understand. Take care of yourself.
1:33 so important
When I watched This for the first time, I didn’t really know what to make of it. I just took it at face value and accepted that is how it ended. But After watching it a second time, I fully understood what these last two episodes were trying to say. I used to suffer from depression and in a way I still do, but watching Eva again made me realize that everyone does have a purpose in this world weather we realize it or not. It just goes to show how much I love this series and that it’s my top favorite anime of all time for that reason.
when squidward broke the time machine:
This is me. This is the shape that let others recognize me as myself. It is my symbol for myself. This is, this is, and this is as well. Representations. Everything is merely a description, not the real myself. Everything is simply a shape, a form, an identifier to let others recognize me as me. Then what am I? Is this me? My true self? My fake self? What is it that I am? (Quiet) There’s little difference between how you Interpret yourself and how the others interpret you. Right... My clothes, my shoes, my room... These are all parts of what makes up myself These things are connected through your consciousness So what I think is me is me What I recognize as self is myself I′m no more and no less than the sum of myself But I don’t understand myself Where am I? What am I? What am I? The only one who can take care of You and understand you is, you, yourself So you must take care of yourself Treat your world as in a state of constant change Capable of change anytime your mind perceives these changes What is this? A world of nothing? A world with nobody in it? This is the world of perfect freedom Freedom? Perfect freedom A world in which you have no restrictions Is this really freedom? Yes... This what it is Now everyone in this world has nothing in it
Words cannot describe how much this show has changed my outlook on life and understanding myself. Me and my boyfriend watched it 6 months ago and only NOW did we just realize the series is an allegory of the human condition with metaphors of the Id, Ego, and Super Ego.
The Eva represent the Id, the physical form we have with the most basic needs and basic savage instincts.
The Eva pilots represent the Ego, the "us" within ourselves that control the vessel we have. It's our identity in the metaphysical without the vessel.
Instrumentality represents the Super Ego, the force BEYOND the other 2.
Rei, Asuka, and Shinji are representations of the disconnect between the 3, how not accepting the self as the whole causes sever problems.
NGE has been the most human show I've ever watched, and has helped me understand myself in the deepest way nothing else ever had. Existing with others with pain and love is worth it everyone, truly love yourself. Because not existing at all with no identity is a fate worse than death.
This really helped me find meaning in my life.
i think about this a lot, and i never even watched the show
please watch it, it's truly something special
Everything is simply a shape, a form, an identifier to let others recognize me as me. But then, what am I? is this me? My true self? My fake self? What is it that i am? nobody understand me!!!
You can finish watching Evangelion, but other thing is to understand Evangelion, when you finish Evangelion you just start the process, when you finish understanding Evangelion you can be free in your mind, you can start to be the real self you
Yeah…
The people that usually doesn’t appreciate this anime can hardly recognize that the anime isn’t just some weird mindfuckery or just about Shinji being a pussy. It’s one big mirror and I think some hated it for that. The characters aren’t just talking to each other. They’re talking to us. The questions of Shinji, hell even Asuka’s favorite line “What are you? Stupid?”
I'm 20 and feeling so lonely and draggef trough life that, i don't even know what am i, if my actions are truly mine or result of the influence of the others, people always seems to control me that i can't think of anything but revelry and frustation, i feel so disconnected from people around me that i only get to share my feelings on the internet. I know i have to love myself, that my life would be better if i was more risky, that i can know myself better looking at others, but i just feel like i have to digest these feelings now before moving on, because if not, it will grow into even scarier feelings when I'm older, i have perspectives, but i want to take care of myself first. I want to. It just feels like i stoped in time and it's frightening.
Recognizing the issue is the first step to change. You got this! I hope you’re doing better stranger
Oh, my God! I just realized how good English dubbing sounds in this! But the original sounds are iconic!
This abstraction is split in many ways for an individual that leads to one thing "no matter what don't disbelieve in yourself" that is what I think.
While at it as of now eva journey is now over, seeing a man saying farewell to his emotion and we witnessing it. Thank you Mr. Anno now you can hit the beach rest for a while.
"WHAT ARE YOU, STUUWOOOOPED?"
Deeply insecure so I am replaying this many times to become secure
for a long time i couldnt understand why fans would hate the show's ending so deeply to the point where EoE was created, but then i realized something i should have known from countless time on forums and boards: anime fans can be incredibly stupid. i don't hate them though, because without them we wouldn't have EoE.
This scene let me put the thoughts that I was constantly thinking while growing up into words
hmm i dunno if i felt that.. but when i was a teen late teen i suppose, this scene describes me, or the thoughts i felt, especially in their releation to the eva piloting.
Only if I had discovered Evangelion during my 14-15 years old my life would be so different.
Me too. Unfortunately, realistically, it’s not in the nature of 14-15 year olds to have the capacity to grasp the significance of this fully.
Hey lucky me i guess :p
@@BCantley im 14 and i love this scene because of how shinji learns that nobody can change him but himself. He learns that everyone cannot fully understand him so he has to understand himself so he can love himself more.
@@BCantleyIt doesn't happen too often but it has before
I'm not a weeb trying to pretend a japanese cartoon is some super-highbrow treatise on philosophy, but this is one cuts deep. It hurts to watch, but you simultaneously feel very understood. Author is sharing his pain with us and telling us that we're not truly alone.
This is basic “esoteric” knowledge.
I come back to this too many times