Thanks for showing the equivalent of those sliders in Photoshop, I can't find a whole lot of videos that show how to achieve the same effects using Photoshop's base tools. I'd appreciate if you could do more of that.
Dehaze is a very handy tool to spot dust specks. Crank it up, retouch the specks and bring it down again. And for all other uses of dehaze: everything in moderation.
@terrymcgovern6846 in some cases, yes, blank skies, great! But in areas with lots of contrast and detail it's horrible, that's where cranking up dehaze works great. Give it a shot sometime before discrediting it 😁
I sometimes take dehaze slightly to the left for portraits or other shots of people with reasonable detail in the face. This adds a subtle degree of softness that is of a slightly different quality than just decreasing contrast, which isn't always what you want.
I use dehaze as part of my formula on my night sky shots to limit light pollution. I use a selective adjustment with a radial mask: drop exposure and highlights, add in some blue color balance along with desaturate, and finish with dehaze slider to the left to lower contrast. NEGATIVE dehaze is the key
I use the Photoshop method instead of the sliders. I saw an earlier video from you(I even have it bookmarked) and do the High Pass Method. It works much better. There's times where I leave it as done instead of applying a mask, painting to bring back the High Pass filter or using opacity.It's a great method and extremely targeted.
It all depends. I have cranked up texture and clarity to create a grunge effect on some photos. I don't normally do this but it's good to play with these sliders and see what they can do.
@PeveVisuals making titles is the most difficult job of any RUclipsr. Don't make it engaging enough and guess what... No one engages 🤣 make too polarizing, you get the views worthy of the time and effort put in, but you also get a lot of grumpy perspectives. You are correct, the title is what it is and it is because it gets views. I want people to see this that wouldn't otherwise click unless the title was polarizing.
It would, yes, but the make in Lightroom aren't as natural looking as the masks in ps with blend if. To me it feels like slightly different technology but I just don't care for the making in ACR or LR as much as I do PS
4:00 in, yes, that's how I check to see if the battery is any good. Great tutorial to help lessen the use of texture, clarity, and dehire for global adjustments.
I knew that was coming. Just think of them as micro contrast sliders, if you make crazy adjustments with contrast, it’ll look weird. I use dehaze often as the final chef’s kiss to set the global contrast. I agree the controls are way too sensitive, but a little nudge either way doesn’t look cartoonish. I actually almost never touch the actual contrast slider, the white and black sliders are way more accurate and flexible in setting global contrast. Great photoshop techniques, I actually learned something watching this, thanks!
Well done Blake, get tutorial on how to apply the Unholy Trinity with ACR / LR or using the power of PS to get the same effect with more control. Thank you... Michael
Dehaze is not good on portraits unless you lower it a slight bit to reduce the contrast. The others I wouldn't use on portraits. But you also have to experiment for yourself to see what you prefer.
I was trying to guess what settings you would mention and I didn't because I'd forgotten all about these. Haha. Since they're moved and I have them down at the bottom, I forget about them. I remember when they came out and we all thought they were the bees knees for about a month. I got out of the habit of using them, since the tools in PS and the F64 palettes far far exceed the capabilities of those. I will say that practically speaking, it would be very odd to me to find any of those sliders beneficial beyond 10-11% on either side of 0, assuming the light and exposure settngs were correct for the scene.
Dehaze is the enemy of all new photo editors. So often I see all dials ramped up to 101% for that "HDR" look when it just ends up looking like someone had Snapseed open and let a toddler touch the screen. I've been shooting with a Sony a7iv since it came out, with barely any experience prior to that (1 year with my phone, 6 months with an RX100V). My go-to formula for each image used to include +40 on Texture, Clarity and +20 on Dehaze. Over time I've come to appreciate that less is more, and my formula is now +10 Texture, -10 Clarity, +10 Dehaze and I drop the Sharpening slider all the way down to 0 from the default of 40. I am sure as time goes on this will continue to change. Everyone has their own opinions and nobody is correct, but we can all agree that there can be too much of something.
With respect, used with a light touch and common sense they won't destroy the photo. Combined with masks, light use can help. Indiscriminate use will look terrible. Thank you for the instructive video.
I just used a tiny amount if de-haze on a picture taken on a gray day. I think it fits since the image was already built on a lot of midtone, so a global change in de-haze didn't look unnatural. When wondering why de-haze exists in the first place, I am thinking that sensor sizes and in camera technology often eliminates the need to modify the dynamic range. We mostly want to open it up, which is why negative de-haze is more useful. I can see using de-haze if an image has a lot of unwanted "moist" looking grayness in it, like with an old digital camera shot on an overcast day. Fog, steam and mist is generally something we desire in our pictures, unless it's a weird and unintended sort of fog which is a camera quality issue and not environmental.
Preaching to the converted regarding the 'unholy' trinity here Blake! Mind you, I love how you worked through the alternatives and I'll definitely be giving them a try - especially impressed with the Blend-If options you showed 👍 As always, I really appreciate how you explain the theory behind the techniques as opposed to some content providers who merely give you a 'recipe' to create a certain edit.
I agree with all you said in the video. The "reverse" use of the "trinity" is very useful tho. All three, moved slightly to left, very effective where softness is desired; such as facial skin in a portrait and background sky/clouds....when you need/use it that way.
Clarity is horrid as a universal adjustment in LR, but can be useful as a local adjustment. Dehaze is very useful, but in photos that shouldn't have been taken in the first place, and it won't salvage them completely. It's a better than nothing sort of solution.
Would have preferred the Video Title "These Settings Are POTENTIALLY RUINING Your Photos". A Wee Bit less Click Baity and Nuanced? GREAT Video all the same.
I would consider using them locally rather than globally if that's the case, if you don't already do so.. The masks help protect areas that shouldn't be touched by them.
@@f64Academy I'd say YT should require some one to actually play the video before leaving a comment … but playing the video isn't watching the video and watching isn't the same as reflecting on what you've just seen. I don't know how content creators put up with it.
@bradphoto it's honestly one of the reasons I made so few videos last year. To get traction you MUST use click bait titles because everyone else does and nothing else works anymore for views and engagement.
I'd never use it on a group portrait. You always save the women and children from garish HDR techniques. These sliders are horrible on people. And, now what? Experiment on your own to see what you think for the genre you work in 😉
Very nice suggestions. I was under the impression that Dehaze was developed specifically for clouds though it seems to be useful for haze in general, plus or minus. In that, moving the slider up 9-12 points seems to be the effective maximum for clouds. After that adjustment, I often go to highlights and exposure, perhaps whites and darks, to fine tune the target. Clarity and texture prob need to be used judiciously even in portrait corrections. I do like the use of curves or levels for selections, sometimes utilizing Blendif (that I learned from you!). Cheers.
it drives me nuts (my mom was an English major) when people modify unique, as in very unique. Unique means one of a kind. Something can't be very one of a kind. Either it's unique or it's not. Otherwise, good points in the video that you learn quickly when you apply global edits that are like a big sledge hammer.
I will admit that I use the clarity slider quite a bit but usually pushing it into the negative numbers but then nearly always on a stamped image using ACR as a filter. While I use the curve filter more then once in almost every image my go to for 'clarity' type work is still Dynamic Contrast in On1. That filter combined with their excellent masking, then still masking with or without Blend If in Photoshop, really makes it useful (for me).
I thought we were really going to get yelled at. was almost afraid to click. 😄 But you did make this seemingly simple. It makes sense and we'll see later if I can follow along at home. Thanks
Funny thing, years ago when I first got my Nikon digital camera it came with the software that had the 'high pass filter' and I was doing that very thing with even realising it, that was the original Nix program U point tech stuff.
there's an alternate way of doing sharpening via high pass filter that is a bit more elaborate but gives better results imho. With anything, a softly, softly approach is always the way to go imho. Being heavy handed is NEVER a good thing.
Thanks for showing the equivalent of those sliders in Photoshop, I can't find a whole lot of videos that show how to achieve the same effects using Photoshop's base tools. I'd appreciate if you could do more of that.
Thanks so much Blake. Great advice!
My pleasure! I'm glad you enjoyed it 😁
Dehaze is a very handy tool to spot dust specks. Crank it up, retouch the specks and bring it down again.
And for all other uses of dehaze: everything in moderation.
Excellent for that!
Visualize spots works a lot better.
@terrymcgovern6846 in some cases, yes, blank skies, great! But in areas with lots of contrast and detail it's horrible, that's where cranking up dehaze works great. Give it a shot sometime before discrediting it 😁
@@terrymcgovern6846 Too many false positives with that for me and it sometimes misses the fainter ones.
I sometimes take dehaze slightly to the left for portraits or other shots of people with reasonable detail in the face. This adds a subtle degree of softness that is of a slightly different quality than just decreasing contrast, which isn't always what you want.
I use dehaze as part of my formula on my night sky shots to limit light pollution. I use a selective adjustment with a radial mask: drop exposure and highlights, add in some blue color balance along with desaturate, and finish with dehaze slider to the left to lower contrast. NEGATIVE dehaze is the key
many thanks for your videos ... and ... and ... also for the automatic synchronisation. 👂👍
I use the Photoshop method instead of the sliders. I saw an earlier video from you(I even have it bookmarked) and do the High Pass Method. It works much better. There's times where I leave it as done instead of applying a mask, painting to bring back the High Pass filter or using opacity.It's a great method and extremely targeted.
That's awesome! Practical application at its finest. Glad you come into these tutorials with an open mind :)
It all depends. I have cranked up texture and clarity to create a grunge effect on some photos. I don't normally do this but it's good to play with these sliders and see what they can do.
Very true! It can make a gnarly portrait for a man with beard hair and visible battle scars, haha. Women and children, nope, save them! lol
Texture and clarity are great for portraits. So the title of the video should be different.
@PeveVisuals making titles is the most difficult job of any RUclipsr. Don't make it engaging enough and guess what... No one engages 🤣 make too polarizing, you get the views worthy of the time and effort put in, but you also get a lot of grumpy perspectives.
You are correct, the title is what it is and it is because it gets views. I want people to see this that wouldn't otherwise click unless the title was polarizing.
Actually the perfect answer (yeah, the title is a bit misleading!) but, hey, it made me watch it 😂
Sometimes click bait can be good. If the video provides value.
@f64Academy absolutely spot on!
In LR you also can substract shadows from the mask, wouldn't be that similar?
It would, yes, but the make in Lightroom aren't as natural looking as the masks in ps with blend if. To me it feels like slightly different technology but I just don't care for the making in ACR or LR as much as I do PS
Super video. I always learn something new.
I love it! Thanks!
depends how you use them.........
yep, that's what this whole tutorial is about .................................
Misleading title..
In the first example, would it work to subtract the blue color range from the sky mask?
That's image dependent and would require experimenting, but it could.
4:00 in, yes, that's how I check to see if the battery is any good. Great tutorial to help lessen the use of texture, clarity, and dehire for global adjustments.
I knew that was coming. Just think of them as micro contrast sliders, if you make crazy adjustments with contrast, it’ll look weird. I use dehaze often as the final chef’s kiss to set the global contrast. I agree the controls are way too sensitive, but a little nudge either way doesn’t look cartoonish.
I actually almost never touch the actual contrast slider, the white and black sliders are way more accurate and flexible in setting global contrast.
Great photoshop techniques, I actually learned something watching this, thanks!
Thanks! I appreciate your perspective and feedback 😁
"Make great shots" I'm happy to see you and Gavin in "my woods". The 3 mile walk to Hidden Lake in Glacier National Park, well done.
It was an incredible hike! Such a beautiful landscape.
Any slider in Lightroom/ACR, when moved closed to, or at 100% will produce a gnarly result. Thanks, for the vid.
Yes, but even these moved to 20% globally can be equally bad.
Well done Blake, get tutorial on how to apply the Unholy Trinity with ACR / LR or using the power of PS to get the same effect with more control. Thank you... Michael
RE Photo challenge: Very interesting. IMO, one is clearly better than the other, but the results (thanks for showing) are pretty much even!
Does this concept apply when people are the subjects?
Dehaze is not good on portraits unless you lower it a slight bit to reduce the contrast. The others I wouldn't use on portraits. But you also have to experiment for yourself to see what you prefer.
I was trying to guess what settings you would mention and I didn't because I'd forgotten all about these. Haha. Since they're moved and I have them down at the bottom, I forget about them. I remember when they came out and we all thought they were the bees knees for about a month. I got out of the habit of using them, since the tools in PS and the F64 palettes far far exceed the capabilities of those. I will say that practically speaking, it would be very odd to me to find any of those sliders beneficial beyond 10-11% on either side of 0, assuming the light and exposure settngs were correct for the scene.
They were certainly a pretty shiny toy! Insta-HDR, lol. I agree on your percentages too, anything in excess isn't good.
Dehaze is the enemy of all new photo editors. So often I see all dials ramped up to 101% for that "HDR" look when it just ends up looking like someone had Snapseed open and let a toddler touch the screen.
I've been shooting with a Sony a7iv since it came out, with barely any experience prior to that (1 year with my phone, 6 months with an RX100V). My go-to formula for each image used to include +40 on Texture, Clarity and +20 on Dehaze. Over time I've come to appreciate that less is more, and my formula is now +10 Texture, -10 Clarity, +10 Dehaze and I drop the Sharpening slider all the way down to 0 from the default of 40.
I am sure as time goes on this will continue to change.
Everyone has their own opinions and nobody is correct, but we can all agree that there can be too much of something.
With respect, used with a light touch and common sense they won't destroy the photo. Combined with masks, light use can help.
Indiscriminate use will look terrible.
Thank you for the instructive video.
@@eugennaiman1195 yes, exactly why I gave the masking alternative 😁 using them globally is rarely a good idea, however.
I just used a tiny amount if de-haze on a picture taken on a gray day. I think it fits since the image was already built on a lot of midtone, so a global change in de-haze didn't look unnatural. When wondering why de-haze exists in the first place, I am thinking that sensor sizes and in camera technology often eliminates the need to modify the dynamic range. We mostly want to open it up, which is why negative de-haze is more useful. I can see using de-haze if an image has a lot of unwanted "moist" looking grayness in it, like with an old digital camera shot on an overcast day. Fog, steam and mist is generally something we desire in our pictures, unless it's a weird and unintended sort of fog which is a camera quality issue and not environmental.
"Him and I" =====>>> "He and I". 🙂
Grammar police!!! I bet you're the most fun person at a party 🎉🎉🎉
Preaching to the converted regarding the 'unholy' trinity here Blake! Mind you, I love how you worked through the alternatives and I'll definitely be giving them a try - especially impressed with the Blend-If options you showed 👍 As always, I really appreciate how you explain the theory behind the techniques as opposed to some content providers who merely give you a 'recipe' to create a certain edit.
Thank you! I REALLY appreciate your comments. They are both helpful and life giving 😁 they fuel my 🔥 for the next one! I appreciate you.
I agree with all you said in the video. The "reverse" use of the "trinity" is very useful tho. All three, moved slightly to left, very effective where softness is desired; such as facial skin in a portrait and background sky/clouds....when you need/use it that way.
Great video! BTW, you're not playing with nine volts batteries again ?
😁 ZING!
Can you please make a video on how to retouch a male face?
Clarity is horrid as a universal adjustment in LR, but can be useful as a local adjustment. Dehaze is very useful, but in photos that shouldn't have been taken in the first place, and it won't salvage them completely. It's a better than nothing sort of solution.
Would have preferred the Video Title "These Settings Are POTENTIALLY RUINING Your Photos". A Wee Bit less Click Baity and Nuanced? GREAT Video all the same.
That won't get clicks 😉 I wanted people to see this. The title works 😁
I never used dehaze or texture. I do use a small amount of Clarity in my images (+10).
I regularly use those 3 ACR sliders in editing what I call my base edit, ALWAYS in moderation. Then off to Photoshop.
I would consider using them locally rather than globally if that's the case, if you don't already do so.. The masks help protect areas that shouldn't be touched by them.
@@f64Academy I agree.😊
Great video, Blake! It's full of useful information if people actually stop and think about the content.
Exactly! Now we can't just make videos for people, we also have to think for them 🤣
@@f64Academy I'd say YT should require some one to actually play the video before leaving a comment … but playing the video isn't watching the video and watching isn't the same as reflecting on what you've just seen. I don't know how content creators put up with it.
@bradphoto it's honestly one of the reasons I made so few videos last year. To get traction you MUST use click bait titles because everyone else does and nothing else works anymore for views and engagement.
Soooo . . . selectively edit using masks and don’t over do it with sliders. Got it.
Yep 😉
interesting tuto. new spectacles ?
I got them last September :( My age is catching up with me, alas...
@@f64Academy So do I ! In the beginning I thought my arms where shortening !
Great video! I am also very excited about your course together! Thank you, Blake.
Glad to hear it! It should be a good one :)
Congrats on the Chiefs win
A crazy game, now onto making history :)
@@f64Academy Yeah there were too many bad calls in this one. That spot was DEFINITELY a first down!
Seldom correct the foreground and the sky together.
selective masking is your friend. Always.
Another good tutorial, Blake. 😊
Very interesting, thanks
I only hate "clarity". But anyway...ruining because one use it globally
Excellent!!!
Thank you 😊
You used exactly one example. Let's say I had a group portrait instead. Now what?
I'd never use it on a group portrait. You always save the women and children from garish HDR techniques. These sliders are horrible on people. And, now what? Experiment on your own to see what you think for the genre you work in 😉
Very nice suggestions. I was under the impression that Dehaze was developed specifically for clouds though it seems to be useful for haze in general, plus or minus. In that, moving the slider up 9-12 points seems to be the effective maximum for clouds. After that adjustment, I often go to highlights and exposure, perhaps whites and darks, to fine tune the target. Clarity and texture prob need to be used judiciously even in portrait corrections. I do like the use of curves or levels for selections, sometimes utilizing Blendif (that I learned from you!). Cheers.
Good info Blake. You just might make me a blend if follower. BTW, I also tested 9 volts this way:)
Blend if is the single greatest tool in PS. Get on board quickly! It took the rest of the industry 10 years to catch up to me ;) lol
oh and we lived to tell the foolish 9 volt tail, lol
it drives me nuts (my mom was an English major) when people modify unique, as in very unique. Unique means one of a kind. Something can't be very one of a kind. Either it's unique or it's not. Otherwise, good points in the video that you learn quickly when you apply global edits that are like a big sledge hammer.
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you… I thought it was just me.
Very unique perspective
Tee hee! 🤭
I always learn something from you.
I admire your confident manner of explaining things.
Thank you! Some think I'm irresponsible 😁 you can't please everyone, but I appreciate you for having sense 😁
I will admit that I use the clarity slider quite a bit but usually pushing it into the negative numbers but then nearly always on a stamped image using ACR as a filter. While I use the curve filter more then once in almost every image my go to for 'clarity' type work is still Dynamic Contrast in On1. That filter combined with their excellent masking, then still masking with or without Blend If in Photoshop, really makes it useful (for me).
I like (A)
I like A and B... I'm so torn.
I thought we were really going to get yelled at. was almost afraid to click. 😄 But you did make this seemingly simple. It makes sense and we'll see later if I can follow along at home. Thanks
hahaha Glad you enjoyed it. I don't bite :)
Funny thing, years ago when I first got my Nikon digital camera it came with the software that had the 'high pass filter' and I was doing that very thing with even realising it, that was the original Nix program U point tech stuff.
there's an alternate way of doing sharpening via high pass filter that is a bit more elaborate but gives better results imho. With anything, a softly, softly approach is always the way to go imho. Being heavy handed is NEVER a good thing.