Love your tutorial. It's great to see a landscape photographer who aims for a natural look, and isn't madly cranking up the saturation and contrast, or constantly trying to recover every single shadow. Just because you can manipulate the cr@p out of a raw file, doesn't mean you should!
I am finding the hard way that "recovering the shadows" is actually very important when you print your images. I used to think that clipping wasn't a big deal (and even liked the contrasty look), and yes, a small amount is ok sure...but you do need data almost all the way across the exposure. If you have significant clipping, you are going to have a bad print likely. We are talking about different things when we talk about recovering shadows and creating an overly contrasty image. They aren't the same. Also, by the time you open a raw file it has already had the crap manipulated out of it. No harm in further tweaking it to your vision.
What a wonderful video yet again. I love the fact it is not only technical, slide this, slide that, but also clearly explaining why you are doing it, explaining the "artistic" reasons for it. I have to watch this a couple of times before really grasping all the details but I can't wait to try this out on my images. Thank you so much Will
This was brilliant. It confirmed some of my assumptions, and also i learned a ton. Most people that share photography tips show just the HOW, and don't really know how to articulate the WHY, and explain why something looks good to the human eye. Thank you so much gor sharing, these tips are invaluable!
This is the first video of yours I’ve seen. The absolute best part, as others have noted, is you including your thought process and reasoning for each adjustment. Well done.
Great tips and excellent explanation! Something I often see is a complete absence of care when touching up the sky in sea or lake images. What happens is that people get carried away by the apparent saturation increase thay they get by locally reducing sky exposure, but usually forget that the reflection should be darker. No reflection is lighter than what it reflects, ever. That lends a completely unnatural look to the image. So if darkening the skies is a must, don't forget to darken the reflections as well.
Thanks. Yeah, mate, right on. The only downside of making a tutorial like this is that most people assume 1.I consider this a portfolio image and 2.That this is the final edit. Truth is I would do several more passes over the image in the editing stage and would have added some more midtone contrast. It was just used for teaching purposes. Hopefully gets some points across nonetheless. In the future I'll only be using portfolio images and have to film in segments to show the complete start to finish haha.
Thanks for the discussion of contrast between foreground and background elements. I hadn't thought of it the way you described it. I'll definitely be changing my post processing procedures. Thanks again.
No worries. I think photographers definitely don’t think about tonal range as much as we should, compared to painters. We can learn a lot from them. thank you mate.
Excellent demonstrations on what the sliders and what not do, I'll probably use this video to help people understand LR and ACR, not just for landscape.
Hi William, for some time now I have been watching your videos. And I have to say, thanks for sharing your insight, it has helped my photography a great deal. I am looking forward to your next video. Greeting from Austria.
Your videos/explanations are a joy to watch and follow - so well put together. "The eye" you repeatedly say/emphasize. I fully agree - that's what 'see's', but is so easily missed. Thanks a lot for great videos👍.
Your patience is very evident when you teach, William, and much appreciated. A very beautiful image here. I oh so wanted you to bring out more gold highlights in the foreground grass, but you explained why you didn't, and I understand. (Even so :) Loving your Masterclass; taking lots of notes.
Thank you Joan! It’s all subjective though, I could (and would) look at this image and find something to adjust and tweak. There’s no perfect result. The principles I teach here are certainly good to keep in mind though. Thanks as always!
Haha, true. Personally I take multiple visits on the image and take my time, until I know it’s done and there is no longer any doubt. Some images are harder than others too. Even the image in this video was not intended for me to make a final result, it’s just for educational purposes. It’s good to be critical but also, it’s good to just move on and not get too caught up on minute details. All the best!
Thank you so much ! It's been a year I'm doing landscape photography and I'm so proud of the progress I made month after month and it's all thanks to your tips. Keep it up !
Thanks Will! I've always loved the way you edit, how you travel the viewers eye through to the to the hero of the image. Great tips and insights as usual, keep it up mate!
Thank you for sharing the knowledge, I learnt a lot. For obvious reason, I tend to like the images where distant mountain also has some color, little bit of contrast, instead of muted, almost flat, specifically in this particular image. If the haze, foggy look comes naturally due to atmospheric reason that leaves just the shape of those distant mountains with color gradients, I like them. Probably I will need to train my eyes to start appreciating this look.
Every scene is different and the results subjective. If you look at my portfolio, you’ll see the majority of the time I aim to have sunlight hitting the peak. This image is just an example to show the principles and the ‘why’. Ultimately you should aim for a result you personally like, but hopefully this gave you some food for thought :)
Excellent video! That tip about change in tonal range and colour between fore, mid and background is so useful. Also the use of the colour grading wheels (using the shift key to lock in the hue - so handy!). Cheers!
Just started experimenting with photo editing after delaying it for so long, trying to focus primarily on video, and the explanation of the step by step process of localised adjustments just completely changed how I view editing. Can't wait to try this out
Now I kinda no what I have been doing wrong all this time, hopefully I can use the tips in this video to help me resurrect all my past mistakes. If I cannot do something or think it is not working I know where to come for some help and advice…here 😁 Thank you William, for the best and the only video that has made me look at what I have been doing wrong,what a help this has been😁👍
Awesome! Great info. Question, to draw eye into shot and keep foreground sharp, where was your focus point in that shot? One of the rocks in the midpoint?
Really well put together William, your tips simplified many key editing concerns needed to create a natural look that many of the pros online just cant properly convey. Great job.
Thanks Salena. Technically this is Photoshop, not Bridge. But I’m not sure why I would use more in Photoshop? I really don’t have any limitations just using ACR. I’ll only use the main area of PS for blending, stacking etc but just about everything else I much prefer this type of workflow in ACR. As a teacher, it also means I can very easily teach Lightroom users the same workflow. Cheers 🙏🏻
Just started to watch your videos and really enjoying them , just curious about the brush having 2 circles .... which I think is a useful addition but I'm struggling to change my brush curser . Cheers Andy.
Thanks. This is not portfolio quality for me, so no point spending more time on it. If I was serious I would re shoot with light hitting the peak and get some snow etc but this raw file is enough to showcase the lesson :)
Loved this video! I really wish their were more about editing like this on the web. I would pay for a class that dealt with this subject matter, I am fairly competent in Lightroom as far as masks and sliders but really need help in the artistic side. Your explanation of contrast and color in a scene was great. I would love to hear more about how you look at a scene and decide what to do with, it and not make it just about moving sliders.
That is awesome Will. So subtle but so important. Now I have to go back and re edit all of my photos. I love fiddling on PS and LR, my wife doesn't understand though. Ha ha
Thanks you so much mate. Yeah NZ based and currently in the middle of a workshop right now, haha. Please email me if you’d like some details. I’ve had two openings come up for this year, otherwise the rest is 2024. Cheers!
@@WilliamPatinoPhotography absolutely! I was able to find your website and checked out workshops. Im in Montana most of this year but I’ll inquire about a private workshop sometime beginning of next year if you’re available then! Cheers!
Thank you for the excellent video that explains the manipulation of space in the landscape with regards to image sharpness and tonality. I'm quite curious about your thoughts on the use of widely popular modern multiple-exposure techniques such as focus stacking for maximizing sharpness throughout the image and exposure bracketing for creating HDR images, both especially in landscape photography.
Love your tutorial. It's great to see a landscape photographer who aims for a natural look, and isn't madly cranking up the saturation and contrast, or constantly trying to recover every single shadow. Just because you can manipulate the cr@p out of a raw file, doesn't mean you should!
Yes, I mostly appreciate the explanation for why something is done and to what goal
Sorry to disagree but the contrast in the mountains was far better before he “recovers” to much shadow detail and spoils the final image
I am finding the hard way that "recovering the shadows" is actually very important when you print your images. I used to think that clipping wasn't a big deal (and even liked the contrasty look), and yes, a small amount is ok sure...but you do need data almost all the way across the exposure. If you have significant clipping, you are going to have a bad print likely.
We are talking about different things when we talk about recovering shadows and creating an overly contrasty image. They aren't the same.
Also, by the time you open a raw file it has already had the crap manipulated out of it. No harm in further tweaking it to your vision.
Absolutely brilliant analysis of the "I want to see everything" problem so many suffer from. I have been guilty of it myself!
Haha. Thank you. Let’s let shadows be shadows and highlights be highlights.
Thank you Will for explaining your process. I'm guilty of bring as much detail as I can in as much of the image. You explain yourself very clearly. 👍
love your subtle processing - thanks for this !
Thank you ☺️☺️🙏🏻🙏🏻
I could watch you do this all day. Your calm and soothing voice is also quite inviting. It's like Bob Ross, but for photography. Great video!
Haha, thank you!
Wow. So much value on this video. Keep up the good work mate! 👏👏👏👏
Thanks a ton!
Very detailed and informative video. Very useful for landscape photography. ❤
Thanks a lot 🙏🏻
Have learned so much from all of Wills videos. Photos are night and day. Thanks Will
Amazing, thanks mate!
I've not seen a man speak this many facts in a hot minute!!!!! very true and helpful !!!
Haha, thanks mate!
What a wonderful video yet again. I love the fact it is not only technical, slide this, slide that, but also clearly explaining why you are doing it, explaining the "artistic" reasons for it. I have to watch this a couple of times before really grasping all the details but I can't wait to try this out on my images. Thank you so much Will
Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment and support of the channel 🙏🏻💚
This was brilliant. It confirmed some of my assumptions, and also i learned a ton. Most people that share photography tips show just the HOW, and don't really know how to articulate the WHY, and explain why something looks good to the human eye. Thank you so much gor sharing, these tips are invaluable!
Thank you so much
Thanks a lot . Very clear tutorial.
Wow that was so good! I've watched so many tutorials that it surprises me when I find new ones that introduce highly useful concepts. Awesome job!
That means a lot, thank you 💙🙏🏻
Ďakujeme.
THANK YOU!
This is the first video of yours I’ve seen. The absolute best part, as others have noted, is you including your thought process and reasoning for each adjustment. Well done.
Thank you Randy, hope you enjoy some others. Plenty of new ones on the way. Cheers.
Great tips and excellent explanation!
Something I often see is a complete absence of care when touching up the sky in sea or lake images. What happens is that people get carried away by the apparent saturation increase thay they get by locally reducing sky exposure, but usually forget that the reflection should be darker. No reflection is lighter than what it reflects, ever. That lends a completely unnatural look to the image. So if darkening the skies is a must, don't forget to darken the reflections as well.
Thanks. Yeah, mate, right on. The only downside of making a tutorial like this is that most people assume 1.I consider this a portfolio image and 2.That this is the final edit. Truth is I would do several more passes over the image in the editing stage and would have added some more midtone contrast. It was just used for teaching purposes. Hopefully gets some points across nonetheless. In the future I'll only be using portfolio images and have to film in segments to show the complete start to finish haha.
True - reflections are usually up to 2 stops darker.
Love your videos, thank you!
That means a lot, thank you!
Thanks!
Thank you so much! 🙏🏻💪🏼☺️
Every time i see you videos i learned more and more thanks very much for more one beautiful video!
Glad to help! Always appreciate the views and comments 🙏🏻
Thanks William, another great tutorial
Very welcome
Thank you!! I like the relaxing tone in the video.
Thanks a lot ☺️🙏🏻
Another grate tutorial editing. 👏👏👏 and thank You William 🤝 you opened my mind, vision for my editing 🙂
Thanks so much ☺️🙏🏻
Simple and inspiring -------- a great video .Deeply grateful
Thank you Pat 🙏🏻
This is great. What you can now do in ACR is amazing.
Cheers 🙏🏻☺️
It was so pleasing to hear your explanation along with your workflow. Thanks for sharing the process.
Thanks for the kind words 🙏🏻
Thanks for the discussion of contrast between foreground and background elements. I hadn't thought of it the way you described it. I'll definitely be changing my post processing procedures. Thanks again.
No worries. I think photographers definitely don’t think about tonal range as much as we should, compared to painters. We can learn a lot from them. thank you mate.
Yup, it's called 'aerial perspective'
Great video Will. You explained not only how but why which is really helpful. Thanks.
Thanks mate
Great step by step walkthrough mate! Very subtle final image. Looks awesome 😎
Thanks brother 👊🏻
Another great tutorial Will ❤❤❤..
Thanks 🙏🏻
Masterful class. Never thought about layering local contrast adjustments based on the distance of subject matter!
Thank you. Stoked you enjoyed it 👊🏻
Such a useful and well explained set of tips. Thanks so much!
My pleasure. Thanks!!
Great video man! Appreciate the detail and the explanations!!
Thanks for the support! 🙏🏻❤️
Excellent video!! Thanks for sharing
Thanks a lot Karen 🙏🏻
Really one of the more helpful tutorials on post processing. Thanks a lot!
Really appreciate that. Cheers 🙏🏻
Excellent Video Will made great sense. Little adjustments all add up and make the photo Pop! Easy to understand.
Spot on! Thanks mate :)
Thanks for sharing, great video. You're not only a photographer but also an amazing artist. Good job.
Thank you!
I really enjoyed watching this video, thanks for the thoughtful advice and tips.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. Hope you enjoy the rest of the channel and new stuff on the way :)
I just really loved this video. It has many tips/tricks that I definitely will be coming back to 👍
Thanks a lot mate!
Excellent demonstrations on what the sliders and what not do, I'll probably use this video to help people understand LR and ACR, not just for landscape.
Thanks, I appreciate that 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Really good information you are sharing. Thanks Will! 👍
Cheers mate!
Hi William, for some time now I have been watching your videos. And I have to say, thanks for sharing your insight, it has helped my photography a great deal.
I am looking forward to your next video.
Greeting from Austria.
Thank you!
Your videos/explanations are a joy to watch and follow - so well put together. "The eye" you repeatedly say/emphasize. I fully agree - that's what 'see's', but is so easily missed. Thanks a lot for great videos👍.
Really appreciate the comment mate, thank you! 🙏🏻
Your patience is very evident when you teach, William, and much appreciated.
A very beautiful image here. I oh so wanted you to bring out more gold highlights in the foreground grass, but you explained why you didn't, and I understand. (Even so :)
Loving your Masterclass; taking lots of notes.
Thank you Joan! It’s all subjective though, I could (and would) look at this image and find something to adjust and tweak. There’s no perfect result. The principles I teach here are certainly good to keep in mind though. Thanks as always!
Will, another fantastic and valuable lesson. Selective and subtle and in moderation. Thank you again for the words of wisdom and the tonal guidance.
My pleasure. Thanks as always Kev.
Bloody excellent 👏 learnt ALOT is such a short video. Cheers!
Thanks legend 🙏🏻🙏🏻
😂 I should have watched this one before I edited my first pics…starting to all make sense to me now…thankyou again Will 🙏
😅❤️
Interesting and well explained - thanks 🙌
Cheers! 🙏🏻
Very nice edit and well explained, Many thanks William for sharing this with us. Love that soft touch.
Cheers Ross!! :)
Loving both your images and your tutorials Will, thank you 🙏
Thank you mate!
Awesome instruction as always Will - thank you for sharing your expertise so generously
Good onya mate, thanks as always!
The issue I always have is deciding which version I create looks the “Best”. I end up with a top 3-4 every single edit!!
Good video!
Haha, true. Personally I take multiple visits on the image and take my time, until I know it’s done and there is no longer any doubt. Some images are harder than others too. Even the image in this video was not intended for me to make a final result, it’s just for educational purposes. It’s good to be critical but also, it’s good to just move on and not get too caught up on minute details. All the best!
Thank you so much ! It's been a year I'm doing landscape photography and I'm so proud of the progress I made month after month and it's all thanks to your tips. Keep it up !
So glad to hear that, thank you!
The best photography tutorial I've seen in a very long time! I've been doing my photo editing wrong this whole time! Thanks so much for this!
Thanks so much. There’s no right or wrong but I’m glad to have given you some food for thought :)
This video is awesome. Thanks for giving out this information for free
Thanks William, very helpful. Cheers from Seattle!
Pleasure. Thanks for commenting and viewing 👊🏻
Really good video. Yup, committed a lot of those mistakes. What you do makes a lot of sense. Thanks for showing.
Thank you 🙏🏻
This was very informative. Thank you
Thanks 🙏🏻
Great video!! This is a great class for intermediate and advanced photographers. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you!
Excellent....transforming my photos !!
Thanks!
Thanks Will! I've always loved the way you edit, how you travel the viewers eye through to the to the hero of the image. Great tips and insights as usual, keep it up mate!
Thank you mate! Always appreciate the comments 💪🏼🙏🏻
Best editing lesson I have ever seen. This transformed my editing style completely .Thank you so much Willam.
Wow thank you!
These editing examples are very helpful and inspiring. This is definitely one of the better ones I’ve seen. Thanks for the food for thought.
Thanks a lot Dave. Much appreciated.
Thank you for sharing the knowledge, I learnt a lot. For obvious reason, I tend to like the images where distant mountain also has some color, little bit of contrast, instead of muted, almost flat, specifically in this particular image. If the haze, foggy look comes naturally due to atmospheric reason that leaves just the shape of those distant mountains with color gradients, I like them. Probably I will need to train my eyes to start appreciating this look.
Every scene is different and the results subjective. If you look at my portfolio, you’ll see the majority of the time I aim to have sunlight hitting the peak. This image is just an example to show the principles and the ‘why’. Ultimately you should aim for a result you personally like, but hopefully this gave you some food for thought :)
so much information in this video! Love it. Really appreciate the time and effort with these, William!
Many thanks mate - awesome video.
Thanks mate!
Another great walk through mate ! thankyou !!
Thanks mate!
Real good explanation; calm, clear! Thank you
Incredible advice! Can tell you know what you are talking about. Definitely a great video for landscape photography editing. I'll be sticking around!
Thanks a lot!
This is amazing. Never knew about it. Definitely will apply to most of my images. You helped me a lot🙏 I will keep practicing. Thank you🙏
Thanks! 🙏🏻
Yes mate - great videos
Thanks a lot mate
Excellent video! That tip about change in tonal range and colour between fore, mid and background is so useful. Also the use of the colour grading wheels (using the shift key to lock in the hue - so handy!). Cheers!
Thank you Chris! 👊🏻
I love your editing videos!!! They are the best tips I’ve found. Your processing is beautiful. Thank you! 🖼️🤍
Thanks Mel! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks so much William. Oh, how those global adjustments are a new shiny thing for beginners, myself included.
Very instructive, thank you Will 👍
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks Will, your tutorials are always informative and easy to follow. Really appreciate the videos you put out 👍
Thank you Sonja!
As always Will .. all educational and informative.. simply explained for the laymen folk .. great episode as always.. stay well !
Thank you!
Just started experimenting with photo editing after delaying it for so long, trying to focus primarily on video, and the explanation of the step by step process of localised adjustments just completely changed how I view editing. Can't wait to try this out
Awesome, so glad to hear that. Thank you!
Now I kinda no what I have been doing wrong all this time, hopefully I can use the tips in this video to help me resurrect all my past mistakes. If I cannot do something or think it is not working I know where to come for some help and advice…here 😁 Thank you William, for the best and the only video that has made me look at what I have been doing wrong,what a help this has been😁👍
Very kind, thank you for the thoughtful comment Duncan.
Good stuff man.
Cheers mate!
Awesome! Great info. Question, to draw eye into shot and keep foreground sharp, where was your focus point in that shot? One of the rocks in the midpoint?
Thanks! Yep, about 1/3 of the way in on the rocks. Have a video about focussing coming out soon :)
Nice tutorial Will, thanks.
Cheers Mike!
Very well done. I really like the color grading examples. It helped me really understand how to use it! Thanks!
Happy to have helped. Thanks for supporting the channel Kris 🙏🏻
Really well put together William, your tips simplified many key editing concerns needed to create a natural look that many of the pros online just cant properly convey. Great job.
Thanks a lot Ron, I really appreciate it.
Great informative video. Love that you use bridge and not Lightroom. Wondering why you don't do more in photoshop?
Thanks Salena. Technically this is Photoshop, not Bridge. But I’m not sure why I would use more in Photoshop? I really don’t have any limitations just using ACR. I’ll only use the main area of PS for blending, stacking etc but just about everything else I much prefer this type of workflow in ACR. As a teacher, it also means I can very easily teach Lightroom users the same workflow. Cheers 🙏🏻
Love it Will, thank you. Can you show the link for the RAW file, I'm going to watch and again and edit along. thanks
So sorry, I’ve had an issue with getting the web page sorted for the file. I can let you know once it’s sorted
Wow, great advise! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video mate
Thanks mate
Thank you William for that very informative tutorial I will try and do this on my photo's kind regards Howard
Thanks a lot for checking it out Howard.
now i know why i always loved a little vignette :)), awesome video! thx
Thanks for watching!
Great video. There’s a lot to unpack and absorb here for me as I will think about tonal range and contrast from foreground to background.
Thank you! Best idea is to now practice on some images and then come back to the vid if you need a refresher. Appreciate the support 🙏🏻
Just started to watch your videos and really enjoying them , just curious about the brush having 2 circles .... which I think is a useful addition but I'm struggling to change my brush curser .
Cheers Andy.
That’s the feather. Change it to 100 :)
Excellent video. Just starting the editing journey and these tips are fantastic. Thank you for your advice and direction.
Thank you Paul 🙏🏻
Thank you so much for the excellent video. Why don't you also consider some light and subtle dodgeand burning?
Thanks. This is not portfolio quality for me, so no point spending more time on it. If I was serious I would re shoot with light hitting the peak and get some snow etc but this raw file is enough to showcase the lesson :)
Thank you for this great video!
Thanks Connie!
Loved this video! I really wish their were more about editing like this on the web. I would pay for a class that dealt with this subject matter, I am fairly competent in Lightroom as far as masks and sliders but really need help in the artistic side. Your explanation of contrast and color in a scene was great. I would love to hear more about how you look at a scene and decide what to do with, it and not make it just about moving sliders.
Thank you Don. Please check out the link in the description if you’re interested in learning more.
Great tips and reminders to lay off the global settings.
That is awesome Will. So subtle but so important. Now I have to go back and re edit all of my photos. I love fiddling on PS and LR, my wife doesn't understand though. Ha ha
Haha, good onya mate!
Hey Mate, thanks a ton… one of the best editing tutorials I’ve seen so far. Are you NZ based, and do you host any workshops?
Thanks you so much mate. Yeah NZ based and currently in the middle of a workshop right now, haha. Please email me if you’d like some details. I’ve had two openings come up for this year, otherwise the rest is 2024. Cheers!
@@WilliamPatinoPhotography absolutely! I was able to find your website and checked out workshops. Im in Montana most of this year but I’ll inquire about a private workshop sometime beginning of next year if you’re available then! Cheers!
Thank you for the excellent video that explains the manipulation of space in the landscape with regards to image sharpness and tonality.
I'm quite curious about your thoughts on the use of widely popular modern multiple-exposure techniques such as focus stacking for maximizing sharpness throughout the image and exposure bracketing for creating HDR images, both especially in landscape photography.
No need to HDR exposure blends now, as out sensors are good enough. I focus stack often and have a tutorial on the channel :)
A great video, thanks. I use Capture One as my preferred RAW editor but the techniques you suggest are just as relevant.
Thank you. It’s not so much the tools used or the ‘how to’ … but it’s about the ‘why’. Thanks for the support.
Really a nice vid William! I learned some new stuff although I would consider myself as advanced Lr user. Thanks for that! 😁
Great, thanks mate!