Indo-Pacific: AUKUS alliance causes anger in France and EU | DW News
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- Paris has expressed a feeling of betrayal after Australia went back on a deal to buy French submarines. Canberra says the decision was necessary for Australia to meet its strategic needs.
Australia's decision to accept the US submarine deal was announced alongside the unveiling of the Indo-Pacific security agreement with the US and Britain.
The pact allows Australia to develop a nuclear-powered fleet - an option that was not open to Canberra when it struck a deal with France in 2016.
The European Union announced its own strategy to boost political and defense ties in the Indo-Pacific on Thursday.
EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said Thursday that Brussels had not been consulted on the pact, which has been dubbed "AUKUS."
"We regret not having been informed, not having been part of these talks," Borrell said as he presented the strategy.
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Funny DW interviewed an American on the topic of how EU views China.
They are second tier in western MSM. Follow the order of NY Times ,BBC , Washington Post , Fox news etc. Easy to speak " The second grade shouting men of the MSM. Some how, one thing they can proud of is they are one level upper to the Al Jaqirra( Press from non democrazy middel east who are also counted in western media brothel MSM.
lol…yeah, keep wagging.
lol, exactly
They know who controls the foreign policy of EU
@@arminius6506 And trying to control EU economy , German gas pipeline , Breaking French contract.
British left EU. You knew this was on the agenda.
Nothing in this would have been legally prevented by the EU. The UK had the Five Eyes security deal whilst in the EU.
An this will lead to an EU Army
@@julianshepherd2038 you’re not getting an EU army any time soon. There isn’t the budget and EU nations wont give up defence or tie themselves to wars their home parliaments haven’t voted for. There will be a nominal rapid reaction force at most.
@@julianshepherd2038 Good luck with that, sounds like a complete failure to me.
@@supersuit5790 how can a wealthy place build a "failure" army? If Europe would militarise today America as the biggest world power would be a funny old memory, the deal is like this usa guarantees safety in Europe and europe allow USA as the biggest military power in order to lower the chances of a ww3, America without Europe is nothing, without EU, USA can't even issue any sanctions, America without nato is just a remote place with no actual possibility of invading any somewhat developed country, Only deserts and countries that dont mount any kind of opposition.
Middle East is cliché now, Indo Pacific region is cool.
Agree.
Middle East is still like Middle Ages, everybody killing each other. No clear winner, more often than not it's the guy in charge killing his own people than a foreign enemy. Indo-Pacific is Cold War 2.0
@@songcramp66 lol a European saying this is too rich when you consider their history from Roman times till 70 years ago lol
TWO WORLD WARS started in Europe, nuff said
@@maryam4680 I would agree with you on that point but the difference is Europeans stopped fighting each other after WWII.
@@songcramp66 because they became us puppet and the soviet union
After the fall of the soviets
The nato become tool
They got Messi, they can't have it all!
Yeah nr. 1 at fraud with his father great idols lmao
UK, US , Australia are not part of EU they are free to do business without consulting EU ..
Ok Bob
Thanks Bob
France can use those submarines for the European Army
The EU is useless as a military alliance and France is a junior partner to the US. Britain has been a junior partner to the US since the 1960s and knows it. Until now France had delusions of being a global power
India will buy few
@@keshavpandat5083 India is France's new girlfriend
@@Marvin-dg8vj France is more powerful than what you think my friend. First, regarding the hard power, France is the 3rd largest global exporter for military equipments and has 300 nuclear warheads including the bomb H. France is the only country with US and Russia to be fully autonomous military speaking. Its industries such as Dassault, Safran, Thales, MBDA, Nexter, Arianespace + Airbus (held in majority by the French) are among the best in the world in many strategic technologies. France has the largest exclusive economic zone and can apply its sovereignty everywhere in the world. Its army is fully trained and still very active everywhere in the world (africa, middle east…). Today, France has the most powerful army in Europe and is still the country with most military victories.
Then regarding soft power, France is a permanent member of the UN security council, its language is spoken in 56 countries and is official to global institutions such as EU, UN, UNESCO, Olympics committee… France has the 2nd largest network of embassies and consulates in the world (ex aequo with China). It’s economy is the 2nd in Europe and top7 in the world. 4th country globally in terms of gold reserves. Its universities and engineering schools are among the best in the world. Finally it’s culture and art de vivre are recognized everywhere on this planet cuisine, arts, sciences, cinema, wine, cheese, monuments… and it is the worldwide most visited country. What is your definition of being a global power?
@@labechamel75 France is nowhere near as powerful as the USA and China .People in the UK are astonished to hear this stuff from the French as though the last 120 years didn't happen. France has a smaller economy and population than Germany.
Australia be like that customer to France : I'll buy these, keep these products a side..I'll be back soon. But never comes back to shop 🤣
France be like wasted years and $ millions not getting started..They also killed people in NZ objecting to their radiation and destruction of Pacific Islands bomb testing, last Colonial power repressing Islanders~ They have a big debt to ANZACS from WW1 and WW2 !
France be like that goods supplier to Australia : After repeatedly coming back to the shop the shop owner keeps saying the item isn't ready and the price keeps going up despite being assured otherwise.
@@forgivemenot1 exactly 💯
@@charlesdare2046 Alsace debts got it
It's worse, they actually signed the purchase agreement, and now after France has already started the design of the item, the Aussies back out.
France has snubbed and made Britain's position very difficult over the last 10 years with Brexit negotiations and immigration. And they're surprised that Britain decided to bite back... The British always bite back.
@m n France doesn't even care about China and is will not take a stance when SE asia is becoming a new front for global supremacy as eastern europe used to be.
Also France doesn't want people asking what happened to the deal that was signed 5 years ago. Cost overruns, delays and lack of progress. Bad for buisness and France reputation on military arms.
@m n again, the Aukus pact is aimed at china. You think France has the incentive to take a side when they can play both side as they have been doing for decades.
@m n Exactly, France will pick France at the cost of UK, US, Australia's interest in the SEA just because of money and trade from a dictatorial, autocratic state as oposed to it's Democratic "alies". It's clear when a new cold war begins, France will be neutral at best while reelinng in trades from both side. Again France have no stake in SEA comparred to Aukus.
@m nminions? Lol, but you forget that the UK is probably the only country that the US can trust fully to share its military technology and hardware, hence the UK is the only country until now that the US has shared its nuclear submarine technology with. Same with the Trident nuclear missiles(only the UK is trusted enough to have the US's main nuclear deterrence!), although the nuclear warhead is British designed and built. Also, the UK is the only tier 1 partner in the F35 fighter consortium, meaning the UK besides being the second largest contributor to the project in terms of technology input also share with the US the very top technology secrets not open to the other partners in the the consortium like Italy, Spain, Norway,etc. Lastly, British defense companies like BAE systems and Rolls-Royce are probably the only companies apart from US ones allowed to bid in America's most sensitive defense contracts, like Rolls-Royce's latest success in winning the bid to upgrade the US's B52 bombers engines.
@m nAgain why? The french deal was too good to be true anyway, should have choosed the Japanese contract instead as they have a stake in the SEA region. Again, France has no stake in antagonizing China and is indifferent in the new front of a cold war for global supremacy. Choosing a dictatorial regime over it's similarly democratic "alies" with the same values.
So why bother? Again why?
News flash, there is already an arms race
@Super Bad They are nuclear powered submarines, that doesn't mean they are armed with nuclear weapons.
Super Bad so it wasn’t an arms race until australia gets 8 nuclear powered subs with conventional weapons?
Australia will use these submarines to force the Chinese to buy their wine. Because the Chinese bought more French wines, Australia is dissatisfied with France...🤣
@Super Bad China, India and Pakistan already have nuclear warheads so it has been a nuclear arms race for years. Australia isn’t interested in nuclear weapons. In fact we weren’t interested in nuclear powered subs until China has decided it wants to annex the whole of the South China Sea. I’m pretty sure it was china that gave Pakistan the technology so what is the difference?
@Covert Puppy Two you mean the pictures your medias took from a windfarm and lied to yall? 😂😂 wake up sheeple
France can sell submarines to Taiwan if Macron has the balls
France can sell submarines to the China if Macron has the big balls
Taiwan is gonna legally integrated china in 2049, as china gave them 100years of so called independance. Better to deal directly with china lol
@@amirmohammadsadraie9545 China builds it's own subs
France wouldn't hesitate to screw the UK or Australia over if it was the other way round. Also labelling the UK opportunistic is a bit rich considering their attempts to take market share from The City's banking industry post brexit. This was opportunistic.
But it's there anything wrong with being opportunistic? I don't think so, it's a free market.
The way Teri laughs when explaining France's humiliation says it all
A nasty woman
Accept it EU. EU has been very soft on China, specially during covid. . No body wants a spineless friend. Beings too much politically cirrect has cost France this deal.
The EU is mad because one of its members got its contract cut, it's not about anything more than that...
EU should ally with China and Russia. Continental powers vs sea powers
@@thegreypenguin5097 EU actually is not mad. Last year they signed a major deal with China what pissed off Americans big time. EU is sitting on the fence on this they know China is future world's most powerful power and strongest economy
@SP you are right.
Yep EU are too woke and fence sitter.
France and the EU should be happy. Once China invaded Taiwan Australia UK USA are automatically at war and the land to be nukes is Australia. The EU should foster ties with Russia and not be involved in wars.
Haha Australia has the most uranium in the world. We can nuke every cm^2 of soil of any nation including Russia if we want to. 🤣
@@MrWhitmen1981 Afghanistan has tons of Silicon in the ground. Does that make them a gobal microchip player?
Takes a lot of technical focus and financial commitment to turn dirt into 21st century technoweapons.
@@NullHand Don't worry about that ,AUKUS will deal with the technology transfer.
@@MrWhitmen1981 but you need a brain not juste a gift of nature
@@MrWhitmen1981 and you are buying nuke power from other countries.haha.
"we are even closer today" *literally all 3 seperated by oceans*
On one globe though, and within easy reach of all parts of planet Earth.
but brittania rules the waves dard
Kinda remind me when I visit museum in Canberra
Australia then have a threat from Japanese fleet, so Australia ask for support from UK
In the meantime UK got her hand full with Japanese fleet herself
So UK reply to AU
"You're on your own"
@@whateveri hello whatever you are. That was then. Nuclear kit is totally different to what the U.K. and USA (and OZ) had in the 1930’s. Time OZ had a decent military, and it’s happening.
One of which is bigger than all land on earth combined
Australia couldn't cope with the escalating costs, poor technology and ridiculous timescale. I guess the EUs fingers were also in this as well, just to complicate matters.
Australia has, belatedly, bitten the bullet and walked away.
Now France is buying natural gas to Russia like Germany did 😂
😂
Because it's affordable.
France is a net exporter of energy
I support closer EU Russia ties. Hopefully we can bring eastern Europe back together and see more democracy in Russia.
The anglosphere and China can smash each others' heads for all I care.
Lol
Sure they are pissed … they can’t sell their boats and weapons
You realise that they in fact do sell all that to those ciuntries right?
As I understand it France wanted to sell Australia nuclear submarines to begin with but Australia was like, "no, no, we couldn't possibly, make them diesel", now after five years dicking around trying to make their nuclear submarines diesel for Australia they pull this and complain that it's taking too long. I mean, I can see why they're upset.
@@mikicerise6250 Well specially from the fact that a contract was signed and now they signed a contract to build nuclear submarines with Americans.
i just heard on the news that the USA is increasing there troops stationed in Australia.. ummm how many French troops are down under? even if there were some they would give up to keep Paris from getting any damage as it is such a beautiful city
@@mikicerise6250 No no no You got this wrong. You see French use the wine barrels to make submarines. Chinese figured it out and stopped buying winne from France. So the barrels are waiting full of wine.
00:22 France is fuming over this alliance.🤔 I'm sure AUKUS has good reason to keep France away. maybe because FAUKUS will not sound good. 😜😂🤣
FRAUKUS
The fact that China is so outraged and concerned now that those subs will be comeing from the US/UK rather than France should tell you all you need to know about they threat they felt those French subs posed
The CCP gets jammers, great firewall equipment and weapons from the French. They're more outraged that they can't control aus like a puppet when they bought the election.
China plays victim card for everything. They use this as a excuse to do more things.
Australia can't even have chance if China decides to attack them.
The “many” referenced are clearly not too bright. The arms race in the Pacific has been raging for years now. The sub deal doesn’t change that fact.
@Super Bad
The More bad moves by China the greater push back by those with vested interest in the Indo - Pacific region.
Dumb comment from you, super bad.
@Super Bad • China is only as powerful as the USA allows China to become since the USA built that 3rd World Country into what it is today via our own investments
What is China w/o the USA?
What is the USA w/o China?
Exactly
i personallly don't like where it s heading ; better to use sanctions and economics than weapons
China adding to its Nuclear arsenal. Nobody claimed such was an invitation to an Arms Race yet I guess that’s OK if China does it but not OK for Australia to upgrade its Navy……… Meanwhile pacifist Japan is no longer pacifist due to the Arms Race that China has alrdy started.
Anyone suggesting otherwise is clearly out to lunch
@Super Bad
I think the boot is on the other foot mate.
China had doubled it’s naval assets in the last ten years, and had fortified stolen islands across the region.
Australia is responding not initiating.
"believed to be aimed at China." No, actually it's aimed at Bangladesh, the brash new up and coming superpower in the Indo-Pacific region...not. [sarcasm here]
No bro
Did Bangladesh did something bad to you?Did we invaded someone's country?
@@sadimohammad3842 chill he said sarcasm
@@sadimohammad3842 sarcasm samajh uncle
@@rage120 🤣
If France delivered on time, on budget, without trying to rip Australia off they would still have the deal. Now their upset?
Jan, deals a deal , buddy.
Those kinds of projects ALWAYS gets delays and issue as we talk about massive fleets for decades to develop, look at the US with the F-35 and their aircraft carriers it's even worse in terms of budget management and delays.
France is so upset . They were going to sell subs at 8 billion dollars each to Australia. Close to double the price originally.
Australia has always been close to Great Britain. And they are proud of that .
As a Australian. France was behind the 8 ball, France doesn't mind screwing over other countries. And we have long memories France, You stuffed us around in the 60's when we built the Dassault Mirage III in Australia and the technology you promised us was not available.
If that was so important why did you sign the contract in the first place…. Or did you just remember right now?
When the French Government paid the Equivalent of $2Billion Australian for each nuclear powered Barracuda and then DCNS asked Australia to pay $7.5Billion for each of the conventionally powered Barracuda - WHAT DID THEY EXPECT?
They have stuffed us around for many months this time around too
Even the after Brexit, France and UK made it clear that negotiation between the "fish" between UK and France wasn't a simple process. In and Out, regardless of that, it seems they know how each other responded.
As an Australian living in a Asian neighborhood maybe a white-boy alliance is not a good idea. Notice the US isn't giving the Japanese or Koreans nuclear sub tech.
You dragged your feet on this deal so much France, you’re not a player anymore in the pacific.
The French are too busy making sauce 🤌
@@greyghost2557 😂😂😂😂😂
@Loading Opinions really? Lapdogs? That's ever so funny froggy, jump a bit higher for your German masters and get a bit more mad.
Less riots more work.
All I know is that this deal can’t be much of a threat to China if France is more pissed off about it than they are.
French just crying into their baguettes 🥖
@@YouPube_X LOL
@@YouPube_X omg😂😂😂
@Loading Opinions No they don't. Britain builds its own nuclear subs and always did. They also build their own nuclear warheads and share development costs with the US on the Trident missile.
@JJ France maybe, but China was already building up their nuclear weaponry before this was announced. I don’t see them doing anything new. Plus by the looks of it were only leasing them subs, so in reality the number of nuke subs going against China is not increasing. Australia won’t get their own until the 2040s which in my mind the winner in this rivalry between China vs US would already be decided by the time they get them.
“France considers itself a player” 😂 well the U.K. USA and Australia don’t clearly lol
That player saved America and help in war of independence
What is common among these three countries? They are all English speaking countries which carries lots of meaning for people to understand.
One is the Ancestor, and other two are the descendants.
The word ur looking for is settlers colonial imperialist countries (who always stood for freedom, human rights...)
Axis of evil 😈
All degenerate and vile
im Australian and the trolls under this comment are all very rude what is the big deal. its not a new alliance or any thing, we just want some new boats. we could get them from the USA or France we picked USA so what? it doesn't not mean we dont like France we get lots of stuff from them as well
Mate, please explain? Your comment makes no sense. Tschüss aus Australien
Can the EU rely on the US?! I mean really, how about can the US rely on the EU. Like Germany signing gas pipeline deal with Russia!
You do realize that the only reason Germany doesn't have to worry about military spending is because of the US right? Their military is weak as heck.
The USA does not recognise the EU in any political sense, it was thought this was due to Trump but, if anything, Trump gave it more respect than the Dems and Biden.
@@piotrtrebisz6602 Germany could deal Russia a huge blow by sanctioning Gazprom and banning supply
@@piotrtrebisz6602 Germany is not what it was tho, we would support Germany more if they built up the defense they promised
@@piotrtrebisz6602 because money?
Someone needs to realize who’s the one destabilizing the region. :’)
Chyna
@@rasul407 Expanding its Living Space
@@rasul407 how China? They did not fire a shot on the other hand USA made lots of war and killed million of people ?
@@sujancomilla same with China...they killed millions of their own people.
@@youareajackass2005 now where have I heard that term before…
The EU: “Well maybe we’ll start spending our own money to facilitate our domestic defense without the US”
The US: “We’ve literally been asking you to do that for half a century…”
This is just the voice of 'EU' fanatics. We European countries spend resources on its own defense. Nothing else. And rightly so
Dude is the US seriously still wanna convince us that they wanna ensure "peace and stability"???? Lmao
Bahahahaha right? what a joke
If China had not caused instability in the Indo pacific Australia would not have even thought to buy nuclear subs
@@garyhankinson5695 If the Americans did not cause instability in the Indo-Pacific they would not have been able to sell nuclear subs to Australia you mean. Sweet.
"If you want peace, prepare for war"..... which is why nuclear weapons have granted us "the long peace", if you haven't heard of that, then look it up.
@@blazednlovinit what long peace?? The US literally just got out of a 20year war killing millions of innocents.
YOU should look up how many wars, invasions, coups and assassinations the US/UK and australia have orchestrated, including the indonesia massacre of 1965 and chilean coup against allende etc
Peace? What peace?
Pisses off the French and Chinese? Brings us closer to the UK and Aussie’s? More please.
we lost in Afghanistan and you think China won't destroy us?!
Brexshit nationalism is suicidal
Such as a childish comment, if the world politics is as simple as you understand, then there is no point of having politicians and statesmen in the world.
@@fuckfannyfiddlefart You really are a thickle person aren't you? This has nothing to do with Brexit but you love catch phrases as you parrot the things you hear in your little echo chamber.
@@Cactus_hug WHAT!!!! you say Aussies hate Americans well for a start we call them yanks so i doubt you are from down under are you a Russian bot or a china bot ?
@@Cactus_hug Rubbish
France has little real rights to get upset with 'allies' over cancelled commercial contracts within the bounds of the law. Pacific nations do not forget so quickly how France treats its 'allies'.
@@BearsRights For the same logic N Korea should have their fair share of Nukes.
@@mrIknowwhatyoudid "fair share"? What is this nonsense? We are perfectly entitled to help our closest allies to strengthen themselves. Sorry if that pisses you off but we don't care about your feelings
@@MrKbonez The feeling is mutual.
@@mrIknowwhatyoudid Its not us that are crying about everything. We left the EU, we are reforging our colonial ties.... CANZUK on the way....
Must suck to be an Anglophobe right now 🤣 🤣 🇬🇧 🏴
Stichwort " Rainbow Warrior"...
I wonder how many people here know that the French only have 1 submarine delivered into service out of the 18 Suffren/Barracuda-class submarines ordered (6 by the French Navy and 12 by Australia)? That Suffren submarine came into service 3 years later than originally expected. Whoever leads the French military-industrial complex either has issues meeting deadlines or likes to rip buyers off by ballooning costs on purpose while doing nothing.
For the record, France hijacked a prospective deal between Japan and Australia to get a deal signed for the Barracudas, cutting the grass under the Japanese's feet. Meanwhile, Japan has put 12 Soryu-class submarines in service since 2005; the Soryu was the class of submarines that the pre-2016 Australian government had eyes on. For all the theatrics that French diplomats are showing, they better remember how they stole the original prospective deal from the Japanese. What happened a few days ago is only France having a taste of their own medicine.
The whole world knows it's because the French couldn't deliver on time, cost, and quality. They are using drama to cover their failures.
Well said
I wonder how many people know that that the first US sub will be delivered ~ 2040
@@fredriksvensson6030 yes but the uk has been putting subs out and the uk subs are perfect for Australia
France is right to be angry..I am, and I am not even French.
@Michael Kubik The french changed the product? Are we on the same timeline here?
I'm pretty sure the Australians ASKED for diesel subs when France wanted to give them nuclear ones. And guess what, re-design subs isn't cheap!
I will admit tho' that insisting on building the subs in France was perhaps not the best move, but had the Australians made the decision to buy nuclear subs from the get go, this shitshow would have been much simpler and smoother
So the EU can have an alliance. But no-one else can.
Aftershocks of earthquake, otherwise known as, “Afghanistan Surrender”. This is hugely symbolic, exactly after 1 month of fall of Kabul,
NATO is dead (unofficially). New alliances being formed.
@@Adilrajasoldierspeaks9702 what new alliance,the uk and its empire for hundreds of years has fought the oppressers of free people’s
If said alliance comes out of nowhere and damages previous deals (as it did with the Aus -Fr submarine deal), then yes, affected countries (France) have all right to view this with discomfort.
@@Adilrajasoldierspeaks9702 being "undermined" definitely...HMS Queen Elizabeth 2.. roaming around Far East...18 F35's...8 UK 10 US marine...the UK can't protect their carrier on their own... without using half the available frigates and destroyers...alliances take time, plenty of it.
@@CB0408 Depends on the "compo" doesn't it ?? 400 million is mooted,new figure for the "red bus" and global "great" Britain 😂
Don´t trust Jenks, Brits, Aussies !
So... this means the pirates are joining together once more? Anglos never had honor, why would they start having it now? Meh
Really? Guess that's why the Anglos were the only ones fighting a German Europe for a year before the Soviets got invaded.... Right? Right precious? Or did you forget that?
Meanwhile where were the honourable french?
The thing that scares me is that our leaders can’t even talk to us openly about what’s going on. You can see how carefully they’re reading from scripts.
That's diplomacy. It's not hard to figure if you research a bit.
Not so on diplomacy, but the potential public backlash, especially so with those in business circle. That will generate ‘unnecessary’ red tape for the politicians to push through the deal.
Sometimes the best way is not necessary taking on public opinion, but leaders to decide for their people. On hindsight, somehow hypocritical to the freedom to express having the public opinion taken into consideration, which the democratic ideology is based upon.
In diplomacy you can’t be brash or emotional you have to plot every decision and every word.
This has been on the cards since the French kept jacking up the price of these Barracuda converted boats and kept reducing the Australian work-share.Australia was absolutely right to exercise its exit clause from this one-sided contract. AUKUS is a rational response and no real surprise coming out of the decision to switch to nuclear powered boats.
@@edmundbell-king4538 yeah rational response.. now you stirred the entire freaking SEA to arms races. We all need to guard against you in fact.
This is a typical one-sided decision-making without the consideration of your neighbours. If there’s a real threat to our region, we will be more than concern and resolve our way. Instead, a country at the corner of the world is more than concern, and armed herself with the very thing that can spur the start of the new World War.
“Causes anger in France and the EU”. Really? What did they expect? Wake up and smell the roses, please.
The french can't smell the roses because they are overpowered by the _flavour fromage._
you are pitting the morality of France and the EU against the morality of Australia. im not laying any bets there, too close to call. never forget, there are 2-3% of the Australian population that has legitimacy, thats quite a hurdle for anything europe
Agree, EU reacts too slowly with China
Hey mate do you mind explaining this to me, from the french and EU standpoint
It's ok. The EU can sit around and do what it does best: nothing.
2:11 ... so the spirit of cooperation is about defense sales, not security.
The two are the same thing.
Well to be fair they literally go hand In hand, can’t be secure without yo defensive capabilities
Seems like an arms convention. Gotta fill in the void from withdrawing from Afghanistan.
Oh yea...because we got to do something with all these subs we used in Afghanistan
@@Ameriguy99 lmao, I think they’re referring to the US military industrial complex as a whole
@@Stack4Freedom Oh I'm sure, but I couldn't miss the opportunity tonmake the joke.
The point is mute anyways. The US military still spends 700 Billion a year on weapons and equipment regardless of we are at war or not, and we also sell to the majority of the world's militaries as well so there is no real drop in the war market because of the exit from Afghanistan. Now Afghanistans neighbors may be more interested in purchases lol
France or any arm dealer should learn a lesson from this. Everything should delever in "fast motion" otherwise competition will beat all slow motion in 21st century.
u have the point,
but aus/fra signed contract, where are the contract spirit and the compensatory damages from aus?
@@ken-ch1rp Aus will pay compensation in whatever clause is in the contract. But it sure won't be the ridiculous 90 billion that the french company was asking for.
The difference in effectiveness between nuclear powered subs and conventional is like comparing a modern battle tank to horse drawn artillery.
France has that technology (in spades) but wasn’t really willing to pass it on to the Australians.
Australia is probably getting bad flashbacks to the beginning of the last century, when another raw materials hungry east asian rising power started arming up and sabre rattling. I really can't blame them for jumping on the quickest available credible deterrent.
France of all nations should understand.
@@ken-ch1rp they’re coming….don’t you worry about that. Tax payer always pays 😁. This is more about loss of French pride than anything else. They could have sub-contracted it to the Koreans or Chinese 🤣…would have got the job done on time, half the price and ‘sub’ quality! 😂
They don't think of France as their own family at all, they are Anglo-Saxon.The French are Gauls.
China is not invading/sending troops to other countries, but some countries are treating it as a threat. What an ironic world.
Which world do you live in (you Chinese bot)?
China cannot see an area it does not want to grab.
Or a technology it does not want to steal!
It is expanding its borders illegitimately by creating artificial islands. It has sent paramilitary forces to Hongkong to crack down on the democratic movement there. How could one not descripe China as expansionist?
@@toothlessseer3153 calling someone bot arrogantly doesn’t make you look smarter
@@MZ-hx1ie but working for Mr Pooh makes you look smarter?
I watched the movie ' A Fish Called Wanda ' a few days ago ... I'm not sure if any one of those jewelry thieves were trustworthy right from the start !
US lost their wars against vietnam, irak and afghanistan... how many lessons they need to get before undertanding that they must stay on their side of the ocean?
Anything that keeps the fighting away from our land is fine with us.
@@ScottyShaw Watch Out! All the mess that you created will bite you back one day. Mark my words you monsters!
@@gigguksson Worry about your own defenses first.
Oh dear, the eu not informed? Last time I checked, none of the countries involved were eu members.....as for the French, tough......given the pro Chinese stance taken by the eu......
Exactly they are irrelevant in this situation
Totally agree!.. nothing to do with the EU
France pro China stance? Is not barking when US tells you to bark a pro China stance? Do not forget the fight for freedom and liberty started from France and that spirit won't knee to US as well.
"Pro China stance taken by the EU"
Said by an American who's presidents talk about a "pivot to Asia", signed a more comprehensive trade deal with China than the EU did (ironically forcing the EU to do the same but then berating them) and even calling the Uyghur treatment in Xingjiang the "right thing to do" (Trump)..
Yeah, sorry but I'm not taking anything coming from an American serious about China. Ever.
What country's spending suggest it values death more than life?
After 15 years, the Pentagon not only scrapped its $500 million Electromagnetic project
it also stopped Future combat system, Boeing Comanche helicopter and the Next Generation Cruiser project.
Billions of dollars spent and paid for by the US taxpayers
on projects that are dead in the water.
Haven’t American been screaming for the government to fix
education and healthcare system, bridges, tunnels, schools
but when the Pentagon screwed up their made-up projects and wasted taxpayers’ money
there’s no question asked and no one is called to the principal’s office.
Hey France, next time be fast on your deliveries. Otherwise, others will pick your slack for being too slow.
You know that it takes 30 years to put in place a nuclear submarine fleet ？By that time, China would have already have hundreds of nuclear subs. Congrats Australia for making the US happy, but now you are screwed...
@@will7816 France always coward and slow like 🦥. How about contract with Russia Mistral? Same issues right
@@dirwanedy8919 France is not a puppet of the US... is that a problem to you ? Anyway France will get 260 millions dollars of fee from the wallabies without building a single Sub, and the breach made the EU stronger xD what a win for France really...
@@will7816 hahaha France always coward to USA and UK see migration issues with UK
@@dirwanedy8919 You are from inonesia XD xD xD
At the end of the day it's Australian money and they be looking for a better deal. But that's gotta hurt for France, my sympathy.
I agree. However, all the French Minister's insults have actually hurt France. When issues seem bad, it's a good time to stay silent. Trying to defend with insults and criticism only makes a gov't look weak.
Yup, it's the money of Australia but they kept on the trial with France after signing the deal....
So sudden cancellation of the deal when you still taking trials of the product will hurt not only France but would hurt anyone who has common sense..... 👍
@@shubhamsarkar9680 true
@@shubhamsarkar9680 it’s a shame India isn’t included in the deal, would really like to see the western world include India as a superpower ❤️
@@Chris-uo5fz
Well, we are not that advance ( technology may be there but defence manufacturing infra is less here) in defence manufacturing. We are still in progress. ( Almost 10 - 15 years to get there unless Modi gets defeated in 2024 election which is highly unlikely unless some drastical incident happens .)
Yes it's good if usa stops ignoring India.
Specially under democrats usa is critical of India. Same goes with the labour party on uk ( which is not currently in power).
Mr. Suga is also not so active as Mr. Abe.
Aus and uk almost follow the usa ( even if left and right are in defferent countries ) along with Canada.
But Eu is different from these 4 countries ( US, UK, Canada, Australia). If Germany and France can make their priorities same and in favour of India then we all can benefit but as of now Germany is more aligned with China ( along with Greece and Italy I think .)
Also we have a good relationship with Russia ( though it's declining)
So it's a complicated situation.
But it's for sure that in this AUKUS deal, France will lose the most. India and France will get more closer and Quad will go to cold storage untill 2024 - 25 ( at least as a military alliance).
This is the most French reaction 😂😂 expect riots too
They will stop exporting snails to Australia! :-)
Payback for the way the EU treated Australia over supply of the AstraZeneca vaccines?
That’s plain wrong! Only Italy threatened to suspend exports from a subcontractor plant, but it was later waived off. Australians are not keen on taking AZ shot anyway. They want mRNA vaccines, even Poland sent some to Australia in a good gesture.
@@digantdalal im Australian and you are 100% right and i would like to thank Poland for there kindness, also im sorry what jim scott said he is wrong
@@johney3734 I tought that was Scott Morrison who commented. That guy is giving you Aussies a bad name believe me.
The only one to blame for Australia's vaccine rollout is Slow-Mo who said it 2020 that he would wait for a vaccine, then went to sleep.
@@johney3734 I agree with you Jim and I'm not an Austruckingfalian but I am _forced_ by non judicial circumstances to live here and my Australian wife and I both had AZ jabs and a big *THANK YOU* to the Polish people for their Pfizer. It allowed my young daughter to get vaccinated a lot earlier. It is much appreciated.
French Diesel subs won't cut it. Enough with France getting their feelings hurt. The big picture is dealing with China. The EU also benefits from a stable international order and China respecting/following the rules-based global economy. There will be plenty of room for France and EU at the table, it's important to deal with the problem as quickly as possible.
Actually the French submarines are supposed to be pretty quiet underwater!
Actually, the french have way better weapons than that former naval power... Better planes, tanks, ships, subs, nukes and assault weapons and they have their own external agenda.
Diesel subs? Better get Dutch, they have already proven their worth in war games, just ask the US.
Actually it is Australia that wanted diesel first, France wanted to sell nuclear as this is something they are really good at.
A very worrying and complicated situation.
I guess Australia decided it didn't want to get ripped off by France's overpriced diesel subs.
Does he really call the UK faithful 🤣🤣🤣
That man just reads the script, ha ha. It was funnier how he didn't know the name of the Australian leader, a detail too unimportant to be mentioned in this piece!
Like a dog.
If we wait on your lot making a decision we'd never get anywhere.
Anyway your heading for your own army.
Nothing but PET 🤪
To faithful if you ask me, look at Iraq and Afghanistan.
What kind of fool sign a security deal with America after their humiliating lost in Afganistan.🙃
Lol they didn't "lost" in Afghan. They had overstayed already and didn't need to stay anymore in the region. So they pulled out their troops from the region.
@@kb9880 thats a lost, the same as viet war
@@kb9880 Oh i did not knew someone who can't make a right decision in the right time is more trust worthy like you say. That's mean they can't even analyze correctly and make a decision confidently. We call someone like with those characteristics a looser.🙃
Bc they still have the most Powerfull Military, you cant compare Taliban with china
@@giftzwerg7345 Powerful military with bad reputation and history.🙃
Of the 313,814 soldiers who embarked from Australia during WW1, 46,000 died in France and Belgium. About 18,000 have no known grave. there were 152,171 Australians wounded-many soldiers being wounded more than once. I reckon we are owed big time by France. They need to get over it.
In return France tried to rip us off in a dodgy submarine deal.
And at the time, Australia had been a country for 14 years, and had a population of just under 5 million people. That was a pretty high percentage of the population as caualties from a new country.
France, Germany, I highly recommend you take the EU relationship with China as well as Russia closer. Eurasia is where the past, present, and future is. Let the periphery nations do as they please, as long as they keep away from the Eurasian Landmass. It is obvious that their goal is to cause conflicts EVERY WHERE they go.
as history has well told with the Anglo Saxons.
@@kubes8388 If Eurasia is united, the Anglos' are DONE.
Biden was so relieved the deal was over, he forgot the Australian PM's name -" fellow from Down Under"
The fellow from down under has a name ?
😳
All country leaders forget names ...happened many times before and will again.
Biden doesn’t know where he is. 👀
@@jamesgleeson6538 but he didn't forget Boris though.🤣
Morrison should have started singing Men at work - down under.
The English world needs to remain United
They left out New ZEALAND, they has become gong fei of the down under.
I don't see Nigeria or Guyana anywhere on this
Yes, and Europe really need to leave it by itself and make our own defense pact.
Anglo world you mean? Still missing 2.
Which english world?
Does anybody actually know what the UK has anything to do with this deal? I'm not sure why they're there.
Intelligence expertise
Nuclear reactors
5th biggest defence budget in the world
One of only 7 countries with nuclear subs.
Strong Australian ties ( historic and present ) commonwealth member.
Jobs in the UK
@@kevt3318 Yep... old GenAfterNextTactics above might as well have asked "what have the Romans ever done of us".
English speaking country with close military co operation.Second largest population in Europe after Germany with nuclear technology at civil and military level including long range missiles.First trade deal post Brexit was with Australia.
Expertise in colonisation of Indo-Pacific, divide and rule then gain benefits etc 😂😂
@@kevt3318 You're full of s***t.
Those are lies lmao.
India is above you btw.
Does it really surprise France that the US would want to help out the UK and Australia... when the UK is not part of the EU?
Why should the EU be angry at not being a part of the talks? The EU is not a military entity and the US and UK have cooperated on nuclear subs for over 60 years and the only way for Australia to get nuclear powered subs is to join that alliance.
Couldn't have put it better
Yes agreed...it's got nothing to do with the EUROPEAN Union... they are only a trade club... nothing to do with defence?...they keep their noses out of our business
Correction "US and UK have cooperated on nuclear subs" is not quire true. The US gifted their technology to the UK so they could build the subs. Anyone in the UK who believes the USA is an ally needs to re-check history. The USA has always acted in it's own self interest and will continue to do so.
The EU should leave NATO... Let the Anglos fight alone against China...
@@guruxara7994 So you want to fight alone in Europe.
what the EU is complaining about? l
not beeing informed as an ally that this was beeing talked about.
And France well they lost a big deal...
EU... allied to whom?
The EU is NOT a country!....it's a trading club
NOT defence matters...?
@@richardlyd7450
Oh boy.
Where to start with this?
The EU is no country, yes. It's a union. More precisely a politcal and economical union.
The thing you believe the EU is was the European Economic Community, that no longer exists (this was soly based on economics).
The EU is far more then that, ever hear of the Common Foreign and Security Policy? European External Action Service ? And the proposed European Defence Union?
Guess not can't blame you too much, this goes far beyond basic school knowledge of an average EU citizen.
Not being consulted or warned.
france is no right to feel betrayed, as they were never a true ally of the anglo countries... they sold weapons to Argentina and sent scientists to help Iran with their nuclear program.
I think it was Iraq. The Israelis bombed the site and there were some french casualties. After the bombing, the French government went quiet and did not say a word about their involvement with the project.
In this case, the Anglo-Saxons should not use France and Germany.even
The European Union,When w fighting against China,You are really hypocritical.
@@user-dl4wx6wf3y
Why shouldn't they ??
They will use anything and everything, including Xi Jing Ping's mother and you can do nothing about it ...
Argentina? Ah yes so every country should just keel over for you and not defend them self or their rights. As you see people here is what anglo guys think about people that are not like them. Keep trusting them.
@@King_Cola lol. defend themselves? I don't think Argentina's actions regarding the Falkland wars counts as self defense. Also if the European countries want more influence in their alliances, they should start paying more for their own defense instead of relying on the US.
Meanwhile I'm sitting here in the Middle East watching and eating pop corn :D
what's the weather? another rocket?
@Persephone kajira No its not safer, but with the rise of China, America can't go around invading countries for "Democracy."
@Persephone kajira much more than you think 🤔
Genuine questions - why would the AUKUS three consult with the foreign minister of the EU?
why wouldnt they consult with actual Australians? very few go along with the pentecostal ratsack.
I think it meant to say, to rub his nose in it not consult.
Because they are NATO countrys? If they Start war again, Europe will be asked to help again. Same Like Afghanistan. I'm sick and tired of Americans.
@@dr.livesey7595 the EU is not part of Nato, nor are 5 EU members
@@dr.livesey7595 So you're only interested in American military help when you need it? Call me crazy, but i'm pretty sure thats why you aren't invited to this alliance.
Frankly , it's an ANGLO-SAXON ALLIANCE
This term is so idiotic since the biggest white ethnic group in America are Germans. English people are acctualy a minority.
@@dr.livesey7595 US and Australia are descendants of the UK!
Òooooooioiiioiili
@@Thelivingliv British people are historicly germanic too btw. Windsor family is germanic
@@dr.livesey7595 Prince Philip was. QE is British
EU and France 🇫🇷 want to engage commercial relation with China 🇨🇳 and want to be strategic partner in Indo Pacific. That’s not fair.
They are backstabbers.
4:54
"...the U.S. doesn't want to carry the weight of every operation that NATO undertakes..."
Aren't they all U.S. operations?
Also, how long does "for a very long time" mean? Let's not forget that Germany in particular was kept weak and divided on purpose.
Who is this person speaking?
No, they are not. Don't make silly comments that can be easily shot down.
Lol they didn't get an invite to the party! Typical reaction. 🙄
AUKUS made it secretly what do you expect? 🤣
How dare one Capitalist steal another Capitalist's contact. It's unheard of!
Or reworded: How dare someone who's better equipped and better qualified do a better job!
Not sure you understand the details around the current contract. Unless you know the detail, you need to be careful what you type. The have failed on the contract on countless occasions. I believe not a single milestone was met on time and inside expectations.
They are colonists.
@@America_bombsTSMC if you study history or have even the slightest knowledge of geopolitics, every country at some stage has been a ‘colonist’. It was probably first recognised in the days of Alexander The Great. So what is your point?
Once hooked on crack you will steal your neighbour's money,your friend's, your family's ....you'll destroy yourself ,money is crack
Lockheed Martin : Next Indo- pacific
USA : Done
Lockheed Martin doesn't build submarines. But aircraft, missiles, radars.....
@@tylerdurden9161 Maybe that's why they want Indo- pacific . Marine weapons is their next avenue of profits.
They should includ Canada so it would sound cooler. CAUKUS
France better.. FAUKUS
Canada ald busy to take care Russia on artic ocean
Canada's navy is not that big....and we need to watch Russia up North...
The Eu should realize they can not already dependent on usa protection for everything. the Eu needs more sovereignty and military autonomy from usa just like china and russia do.
Yes. We should leave NATO and make our own defense pact.
There is already discussions to bring the motion to establish a full-time European Military now in late September/October.
I thought the EU was a trading block?...it's got nothing to do with defence??...it's down to individual countries to do that?....or was the WW2 for nothing?
@@richardlyd7450 So you don't support that EU should have the potential to evolve and also be able to handle it's own defense? Or should it just be reliant on NATO, USA or any other foreign power?
As the situation demands, I do think that it would be better for each 'individual member state' within the EU to also support and work closer together.
@Cato the Ancient Mate. I don't think you understand that intrests change, and that Germany today is no way close to the Germany that was.
Much like the humans in state as states are human inventions and thus both blessed with what humans are capable and cursed with our own fallibility, states change.
With the exodus with UK from the EU bloc, France and Germany is the ones poised to take leadership in Europe and it is necessity for us to take our own command and make ourselves self-reliant from other states who may have their own intrest in the European sphere of influence.
That does not mean that USA should be exluded as an ally, far from it, but it would benefit USA as well as Europe that we set in motions that Europe has the capacity to defend themselves.
EU needs to let the US/UK/AUS do their own thing. They don't like Europe. EU could easily build up their own submarine fleet, if needed.
Well I'm an American and I like Europe
If Germany builds a fleet we are in trouble, this is why Brexshit was such a bad idea.
@@ethansmedley3386 You are not the only one. I mean, militarily. Europe will be always just a pawn to the "five eyes"or AUKUS. There is nothing wrong with that. Birds of a feather etc. Europe should/could build up a similar alliance. NATO is just for the north atlantic region. No more Afghanistans or that kind of bull. Everybody has to plough his own field, i guess.
@UCYwISaitJH-kZYoBjEbaGfQ You are so ignorant I swear, each of your comments only confirm this. Germany barely even spends 2% on defence hence why NATO was annoyed with them. Keep spewing your delusions though
that is not true im Australian and i like the EU.... i feel they are part of the west and stand for freedom in a world of oppression. BUT the yanks saved our woman and children in WW2..... as such we sent large numbers of troops to every war that the USA has been in since.... mates stick up for mates
why they talk about countries like they are people ? france doesnt like this and China wants that ... ? thats a very narrow point of view, more context please
And a great way to stay in shape
'To assure peace and stability in the indo-pacific over the long term' 🤣🤣😂😂💀
really ? deliver more weapon, and peace will come !!!
Peace and stability for the countries evolved. The Indo Pacific is the most important region in the world right now for trade. If you don't hitch the ride on the bus now you'll be late to the wealth later
3:52 the way she said it was the biggest "cut the bs" I´ve ever seen on DW. hahaha Love it
Haha.. Nice of you to point that. I was thinking the same.
Whole sub deal with France was debacle from get go, there was almost no progress since signing and huge budget overruns even before anything tangible was on a horizon! It became laughing stock here in Australia, and has been criticized by virtually everyone. France was expecting it become huge milking cow for generations, surprised that AU govt actually got balls to cancel that deal.
@@AG-ig8uf
But that is because the Australians demanded France change the nuclear subs to diesel powered subs. And after that they kept changing what they needed, so plans had to be altered the entire time.
Its normal that its going to cost a lot of money and time.
Just to hear, that they are going to buy nuclear subs... Something they were offered in the first place lmao.
Australia is not a trustworthy nation.
@@HansLandaNaranja no the deal was that the subs were to be built on Australia. France would not allow that but did end up allowing Australia and Australian businesses 60% of the build to be done in Australia. That was never part of the deal. Australia was to have full sovereignty on the construction of the subs. France thought that if they held off Australia would cave. We didn't and we never were going to cave. France's arrogance is what cost them the contract
@@drewbarrett3338
Now you will pay more for subs that you could've ordered years ago.
If lucky they will arrive in 2040 and they will not be build in Australia.
You will not get any technology like France offered on top of that you will likely be hit by EU retaliatory trade sanctions.
And you now will have to follow US directions and prioritize them above your own interests. If China changes leadership and comes for a friendly approach you will have to follow the aggressive US approach against them. Because they are adversaries, no matter what.
But hey, you sure showed them right?
Now I know why they didn't allow France to join AUKUS than it would have become FAUKUS 😂😂😂😂
Incredible, Teri Shulzt is the voice of américa ! This is incredible. How dare do you mock France !
YOU have NEVER won a War yet you silly little man !
@@mrjamesyboi3960 you are very wrong. If you googled the country with most military victories, as much as it pains me France comfortably sits at the top of the list.
Sorry pal mocking the French is a favoured pastime of the English
@@tonycrayford3893 I think the Brits can top that - how else did they end up with the world's largest Empire - and then be big enough to give it all back.
As an Australian, afford me some leeway to rebrand this alliance as AUKWARDUS.
for the CCP also... LOL
Fair suck of the sav, that was excellent. You little beauty! 👏👏👏👏
Assukus.
Why not TAKETHATYAKIWIS
@@Ameriguy99 Wait, what did the Kiwis do to deserve that shot...?
Why are the hosts of this English language German news program almost always Canadian?
Probably French-Canadians.
Germans generally don't like Americans.
CIA funded
Canadian Intelligence Agency?
Probably because Canadian-English is easier to understand than "strain" (Australian), "cockney" or rural American English. (remember the confusion when Carter spoke about "the A, G, and C", meaning - what else - the Aegean Sea). Stay safe and healthy, y'all. Regards from Malaysia (where "Manglish - Malaysian English - is the norm - Whoseso?! Who said so.
@@MrAmhara "Germans generally don't like Americans""
WW2 flashbacks lool
The Australian military hasn't been used to defend our country since the second world war . So the strategic need is real that our current government is funneling tax payer money into their party and donors . Using the stock market for insider trading in various industries , the french were just not corrupt enough to do business with .
USA doesn’t recall marrying France, so how is this “betrayal”. I also don’t recall US screaming “betrayal” when France unilaterally agreed to supply Australia with submarines. I mean, how dare they not consult with the USA first!
You wanted Biden, you got him France
biden or trump, US would still backstab france,
trump would even backstab faster and more willingly
hooligan is hooligan
Biden is an other Trump or maybe it's that to be an American
@@ken-ch1rp What can be brought without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
@@blazednlovinit plenty of history trump would backstab france if he are president
he is a person backstabbing ppl who helped him if u study his profile/history
US dragged canada into US-china trade war, china stop buying canadian products, US then selling what china bought from canada and eating canadian share
decades ago he bankrupted and went to HK for financial help, the hk billionaire lend him money to prevent him from bankruptcy and give trump a very good deal, after he took the money he sued the billionaires for more money because he thought the deal was not good enough
he loves to backstab whoever helped him
@@ken-ch1rp "would" lmao
Again, brought without evidence, dismissed without evidence
Encore une fois prouvé, être un ennemi des États-Unis peut-être dangereux, mais être un ami est fatal
Les Etats-Unis sont pas un ami, ils sont "Le Patron".
The problem is that France can not build even a toilet in time.
Maybe the quality is good but the speed is way too slow, how many years of delays for this project?
@@adamyoussef2257 Le mafia satanique est le Patron
@@MrRedsjack pfff and you australia with American submarine gonna deliver in 2040 🙄🤣
Speak English.
Yeah! he needs to keep his hands in his pocket. He must be thinking German leader was delicious too.
Yeah no way they are going to put France instead of Australia and make it FUKUS 😂
I can’t believe they actually used the slogan “let them eat cake” when announcing this deal 😩Total troll job.
Another proof that be disgraceful at any occasuon towards french isn't racist in their mind.
Another proof that France needs to leave NATO and make new relations worldwide.
The 12, diesel-electric 🇫🇷 French submarines were originally priced at $50 billion when initially agreed upon but later rose to $90 billion, and the submarines wouldn't be delivered to the 🇦🇺 Royal Australian Navy at least until the 2030s.
The 🇺🇸🇬🇧 US-UK deal offered a $90+ billion package for 8 submarines, but they are nuclear powered, capable of launching cruise missiles and the US & UK agreed to the full disclosure of their secret nuclear submarine technology so 🇦🇺 Australia can develop and produce their own nuclear submarines in the future.
As a German - I hope we will focus on a european Army and throw the US Troops out of our country. Mr macron said once "NATO is braindead" can't agree more.
"throw the US Troops out of our country"
Totally agree
Let EU face Russian!! Ha Ha Ha!XD
You guys will get steamroller by Russia.
@@user-nv2fg9bx9l ue is 2nd largest economy and have more troups than Russia if there is a European army Russia gonna loose, nuclear weapon 2sides haves.. And France protect his European brothers, I can fight and died for germans peoples (I'm French)
Yeh no more war with us between France and Germany yes we have not sames ideas littls tentions between us but you are the est Francia and we are brother in fact maybe make just an military pact between us if Pologne or other doesn't want, maybe it's just a dream but dreaming a little time together if you want 😊
@@duffdingelmeyer7101 Germany if you remember destroy easily us in WW2 in 2 fronts, France destroy all Europe in 360° front so thanks but we don't need USA, goodby see you soon in your autarcie vision of the world, France have the most win in history of the world before roman empire or English so I think we know how fight our enemies
Australia joining an exclusive 6 nations only Nuclear Sub. Club may have accidently stepped on few tails, brought out some angry outburst and childlike retaliation in diplomacy front. 😂😂
Dude Australia had li a 20 bilion€ contract for submarines that where already being made so who is childlike ?not keeping up to its responsibilities and contracts surely seems like a child behavior
@@diogosousa6984 Australia had a $60+billion contract for submarines that after 5 years not a single piece of steel had been cut. Nothing has been supplied. The expected delivery was stretched out by a decade and at least a billion over budget so far. The French company in typical French arrogance and contempt for Pacific countries ignored Australia's complaints about lack of performance and work ethic. So Australia exercised its option under the contract and cancelled it.
Slow down Frenchie 😂 the instructions on the sub has to be in English 😂
Yet the only time you had the bollox fight the English was when they had to fight the vikings first still pussys a thousand years ago froggy
@Genghis Khan A defence report says otherwise the US was ranked the only superpower, The UK was ranked the only global power france was ranked a regional power with the rest of Europe.
Danke für das hochladen sehr interessant
French displeasure will result in strongly worded memos all around mark my words😘
Hey don't doubt the french's willingness to send in spec ops teams to sabotage civilian sailing boats.
A completely emotional but illogical reaction by the Paris Government.The French Government just reacted badly about the decision of a Australia to use the get out clauses and choose to buy a better product. Maybe the French should just forget about the 90 Billion dollar deal now and just worry about its Pacific Territories instead . The Indigenous people are very angry at Paris because of the COVID infections brought into those Pacific Islands by mainland French Citizens. This latest surge came on the heels of a trip to French Polynesia by French President Emmanuel Macron back in June. Motai Brotherson, a member of the French parliament who represents French Polynesia, squarely blames the deadly surge in cases on Macron’s visit.
And where do you think those strongly worded memos will end up ?
@@louiscypher4186 Those French spies that committed murder of NZ civilians in Auckland, were caught the next day. They were using a French boat and speaking French. Not all that bright really.
@@afpwebworks Amazingly those on the boat all managed to escape, the one's who were caught were were Alain Mafart and Dominique Prieur came in by plane posing as a Swiss couple.
Disgustingly enough The french negotiated they serve their sentence in French prisons only for them to be released a few years later where upon they were welcomed back with open arms and even promoted.
Don't worry France your still our friend, we just like Australia better.
And who are you supposed to be?
Don't we all?
no one likes france
Hey, leave France alone. Its not their fault they're backstabbing , two faced , slippery gits, its just how they roll.