The 70's was an exciting time for Railroading. As a teenager I would spend hours at Newark's Penn Station watching all the Long Distance and Commuter trains going in and out of the station.
I have this 5 or 6 DVD set by Green Frog Productions all filmed by Emory Gulash, I have to say that being a Penn Central fan and totally regardless of their misfortune, if it weren’t for Mr. Gulash we wouldn’t have the history of films such as these to look back on, to use as references or whatever the case. Thank You, to the memory of Mr. Gulash, his work was Excellent.
That PC coal train at 5:00 was a C636 C630 and a C628. All C 636s had Hi AD trucks under them. The second unit in this train had Trimount trucks so it had to be a C630.
I hired out on the PC New Jersey Div. Nov.24,1974 as a student engineer.I could not figure out why they were broke with all the freight we were running.After awhile I saw the problem.All the people on the trains were ridiculous, just along for the ride.Yard crews were screwing around all day and night not getting the cars in and out of the yards.We engineers got paid by weight on drivers of each of the engines in our consist.I worked with men who put numbers of the heaviest engines on their time slips, even though they never operated them, just an old ALCo S2!. When Conrail came in, brother that stopped.I won't say the engineer's name here, but the RFE called him in and said look, "this engine was in St.Louis,this one in Chicago,this one out West in pool service, this other one in Boston.I think you better correct this, and then turn it in, or this is the last one you do!"The unions got away with to much.Then it was the Central men against the Pennsy men, real stupid.One of my first posting trips on a GG! out Penn Station NY,the old head asked me and my friend if we were Pennsy men or Central men.It blew our minds.It's supposed to be one company!Everybody hated the New Haven guys!
Unions screwed up a lto of big industries, not just the railroads. They way overplayed their hands. After all the BS you mention here, they got Conrail. Maybe it was deserved.
@@rushijaradi810 Thank you for your reply. RFE is Road Foreman of Engines. He is an engineer who is promoted out of the ranks to supervise all the engineers on that particular division. He does check rides with engineers, efficiency tests and deals with the engineer's unions on matters.
That’s a really good way of putting it. It reminds me of the battles that took place after the Soo Line bought the Milwaukee Road. Ask people on either road who bought who and then get out of the way-you were either going to get hit or catch some spit. The Milwaukee may have been up for sale but you’d never have known it: there was a lot of pride there. Rightfully so after they had pulled themselves up to become a railroad worth fighting over.
@@gordonvincent731 Yes, Iv'e often wondered about that. I've heard ever since the merger that the two railroads were at odds with each other. So instead we got Conrail with thousands of jobs and miles of track lost anyway.
Its amazing how you can possibly still see these trains today. does not look much different than railroading now, you still see GP and old SD units pulling older rolling stock, In louisville KY i have seen 4 NW cabooses on a spur everytime they are in a different order.
We are moving toward more limited sound FX on our old film productions, (and cheaper prices too) this way we can get them out faster, we have quite a bit of film in our library we have been sitting on. (sound FX are very labor intensive)
Interesting that the freight cars have no graffiti on them. When did that nonsense begin in such earnest? Despite years of bankruptcy, they seem to still be handling a lot of tonnage.
I believe it all started with deindustrialization; the closing of factories that would offer decent paying jobs for those who are more limited cognitively. The results are obvious when you have an idle population that has little to do, and no money to live on. A disaster in the making, because of a huge population of individuals who have nothing to lose, because they are not able to obtain what those with more privileges can. Bring manufacturing jobs that require limited skills back, and that also pay a decent livable wage, and I am very sure there will be less property damage and graffiti.
I want the 'CENTRAL BAR' sign seen at the beginning. I wonder if the name was connected to location near NYC or named Central for some other reason. We had a 'Iron Horse Tavern' right by the railroads in my hometown.
It's no coincidence that railroads began to falter at the same time that America was involved in Vietnam... estimates range from $140 to $170 billion... over a trillion dollars in today's dollars.
Seems to me that although these videos are great, something is lacking without the sound. So what if the time and labor involved in bringing the sound takes longer. If it is available use it.
RedArrow73 Penn Central units were painted in the same dark green locomotive enamel that the Pennsy used for there units. NS PC heritage unit 1073 is dark green, just look at a picture of it when it was new, it's clearly green
The 70's was an exciting time for Railroading. As a teenager I would spend hours at Newark's Penn Station watching all the Long Distance and Commuter trains going in and out of the station.
I have this 5 or 6 DVD set by Green Frog Productions all filmed by Emory Gulash, I have to say that being a Penn Central fan and totally regardless of their misfortune, if it weren’t for Mr. Gulash we wouldn’t have the history of films such as these to look back on, to use as references or whatever the case. Thank You, to the memory of Mr. Gulash, his work was Excellent.
All of these are taken in my home town, it is cool to be able to see what ran through Ypsilanti 20+ years ago.
What is the Michigan Central that had the depot?
The lack of sound maybe disappointing, but I always like seeing the variety of railroads in this one. Let's not forget those iconic F40's.
That PC coal train at 5:00 was a C636 C630 and a C628. All C 636s had Hi AD trucks under them. The second unit in this train had Trimount trucks so it had to be a C630.
And the Ann Arbor looked weird not having Bloomberg style trucks
Beautifully shot piece of railroad history!
This is the most realistic HO train layout ever!! Great detail, almost looks real!! Good job!!
It’s not a layout. It’s real railroad videos.
I hired out on the PC New Jersey Div. Nov.24,1974 as a student engineer.I could not figure out why they were broke with all the freight we were running.After awhile I saw the problem.All the people on the trains were ridiculous, just along for the ride.Yard crews were screwing around all day and night not getting the cars in and out of the yards.We engineers got paid by weight on drivers of each of the engines in our consist.I worked with men who put numbers of the heaviest engines on their time slips, even though they never operated them, just an old ALCo S2!. When Conrail came in, brother that stopped.I won't say the engineer's name here, but the RFE called him in and said look, "this engine was in St.Louis,this one in Chicago,this one out West in pool service, this other one in Boston.I think you better correct this, and then turn it in, or this is the last one you do!"The unions got away with to much.Then it was the Central men against the Pennsy men, real stupid.One of my first posting trips on a GG! out Penn Station NY,the old head asked me and my friend if we were Pennsy men or Central men.It blew our minds.It's supposed to be one company!Everybody hated the New Haven guys!
I worked for CONRAIL in the 90s. The New Haven guys were first class . Never talked down to you . Learned a lot from them.
@@chuckabbate5924 when I hired on with Conrail, the old heads would call each other....green team or the red team.
Unions screwed up a lto of big industries, not just the railroads. They way overplayed their hands. After all the BS you mention here, they got Conrail. Maybe it was deserved.
What's an RFE?
@@rushijaradi810 Thank you for your reply. RFE is Road Foreman of Engines. He is an engineer who is promoted out of the ranks to supervise all the engineers on that particular division. He does check rides with engineers, efficiency tests and deals with the engineer's unions on matters.
Despite their dire financial straights, it seems they were still moving a lot of tonnage.
You can move a lot of freight but it’s just as unprofitable if you don’t do it efficiently.
@@douglasskaalrud6865 They definitely had their share of problems. Much of it was internal bickering.
That’s a really good way of putting it. It reminds me of the battles that took place after the Soo Line bought the Milwaukee Road. Ask people on either road who bought who and then get out of the way-you were either going to get hit or catch some spit. The Milwaukee may have been up for sale but you’d never have known it: there was a lot of pride there. Rightfully so after they had pulled themselves up to become a railroad worth fighting over.
@@1940limited It was the red team versus the green team, it was stupid.
@@gordonvincent731 Yes, Iv'e often wondered about that. I've heard ever since the merger that the two railroads were at odds with each other. So instead we got Conrail with thousands of jobs and miles of track lost anyway.
nice video, reminds me of watching the PC run through Foxboro , MA about the same time, maybe a little earlier,
Its amazing how you can possibly still see these trains today. does not look much different than railroading now, you still see GP and old SD units pulling older rolling stock, In louisville KY i have seen 4 NW cabooses on a spur everytime they are in a different order.
Yes definitely The glory days
I love those old,alco s
We are moving toward more limited sound FX on our old film productions, (and cheaper prices too) this way we can get them out faster, we have quite a bit of film in our library we have been sitting on. (sound FX are very labor intensive)
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Is there or was there ever to do a series of early conrail with Emery Gulash films, like Penn central and the N YC
RTG Turboliner at 0:32. NICE catch!!!
This is awesome stuff😀
Thanks you, Videos very nice,
Looks like a Buick Riviera there going away from the camera at 4:10
Interesting that the freight cars have no graffiti on them. When did that nonsense begin in such earnest? Despite years of bankruptcy, they seem to still be handling a lot of tonnage.
graffiti started in the early 80s.
It sucks. I hate it. Decal manufacturers are offering graffiti now so you accurately detail modern trains if that's what your running on a layout.
g bridgman The graffiti on freight began in the late 80s and early 90s after the subways began becoming strict about graffiti on their trains.
I believe it all started with deindustrialization; the closing of factories that would offer decent paying jobs for those who are more limited cognitively. The results are obvious when you have an idle population that has little to do, and no money to live on. A disaster in the making, because of a huge population of individuals who have nothing to lose, because they are not able to obtain what those with more privileges can. Bring manufacturing jobs that require limited skills back, and that also pay a decent livable wage, and I am very sure there will be less property damage and graffiti.
@@cnnw3929 I think you're 100% correct.
Ken Mc Corry's layout really rocks he is a VIetmam vet from one Nam vet to another Welco!me home
1:13 wait what is that amtrak FP45??? I never seen this locomotive :D
An SDP40F
i wonder how many open auto racks still survive and how many Locomotive units still survived in penn central paint
None
5:35 did anyone realize thats thats a gp38 and NOT A GP35?
I want the 'CENTRAL BAR' sign seen at the beginning. I wonder if the name was connected to location near NYC or named Central for some other reason. We had a 'Iron Horse Tavern' right by the railroads in my hometown.
Yes, it's now the Sidetrack Bar and Grill.
More can be found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetrack_Bar_%26_Grill
Why do they never blow their horns at the crossings?
@4;14 Buick reviera boat tail XD
It's no coincidence that railroads began to falter at the same time that America was involved in Vietnam... estimates range from $140 to $170 billion... over a trillion dollars in today's dollars.
Seems to me that although these videos are great, something is lacking without the sound. So what if the time and labor involved in bringing the sound takes longer. If it is available use it.
The problem is the original 8 mm film sound. You wouldn’t be able to recognize the sound as belonging to a train it’s that bad.
Brunswick green? When were they EVER anything but Basic Black?
RedArrow73 Penn Central units were painted in the same dark green locomotive enamel that the Pennsy used for there units. NS PC heritage unit 1073 is dark green, just look at a picture of it when it was new, it's clearly green
Oh they were dark green alright. Problem was they so filthy you couldn't tell!
I heard the music I'd by Buddy Rich
And another at 0:54!!
Oops nevermind dont listen to me.
What a joke
Please change the music, that drumming sounds like 1930 big band stuff.