@@mishkap5219 You can and should applaud the work even if one of the people behind it is a scumbag. If you can't separate the two things then stop watching movies and tv and sports, and stop listening to music. They're full of people who are filth and scumbags.
My sister was 12 and had never as much as kissed anyone when she was lured into an empty home and raped by five older teens. She was too scared to tell our parents fearing their wrath so she didn’t. For two weeks the boys bragged about it and spoke of it as if my sister had been willing. The entire community was gossiping about it and convicted my sister of being a slut in their minds. Parents, teachers and all the kids treated my sister so horribly. The mothers of all the girls on the pep squad voted my sister couldn’t join them on their trip to Disneyland due to her being of “bad character”. It was 1982. It destroyed my sister. She never recovered and ended up getting severely addicted to drugs. She’s homeless now and I don’t know where she is. It’s heartbreaking.
I hope you can at least know where she is as soon as possible. I'm so sorry for your family's suffering, & the continuing traumatic situation your sister's in is so sad. What does "getting justice" ever mean if we can't even give people support they need to heal, or prevent new victimizations, let alone when predators are rewarded for their aggressions? I'm so sorry. I wish you & your sister the best.
I live in up state NY in the city of Rochester. If there is anything I can do to assist you in finding your sister let me know. I to believe it is never to late to heal.
I know that this is like the bare minimum, but I really appreciate how often you refer to the 13 year old as a child. Nothing boils my blood more than when people refer to children as a “young women/ man” because it almost pins the blame of these abusers on these “provocative children” rather than their twisted desires.
I’ve never heard anyone refer to a 13 year old as a young woman or young man in cases such as these. The most common term used for anyone from 13-17 years of age is a “teen” or “teenager”. However, the word “child” is also fitting…as anyone under the age of 18 is not considered a legal adult - and the opposite of an adult would be a child. The word “child” also evokes much more emotion intuitively, which I think is a better fit for cases like these.
@@amberjulia123some of the adults/authority figures do in schools, they say "young man/lady" which doesn't always mean they're pedos but some of them are and no one would know until they get caught with a student or outside. one of the gym teachers at one of the schools i went to got caught molesting kids in the gymnasium and while they never assigned me a gym class, one of my classes was on the way towards his section and I seen him before and knew what he looked like, poor kids i hope they can recover from the horror they went through.
She very well may be a provocative sexually active minor, they exist. You know what a proper adult does with one? Calls their fuckin parents and tells on them.
So kidnapping, repeatedly raping and holding a child hostage only gets you 40 days suspended jail time but DISRESPECTING A JUDGE will get you 50 years??? WHAT?!?! What is wrong with these people?! Change the laws and oust crappy judges already!
Another detail that I found extremely disturbing was after the child testified that she was drugged and said no several times, all charges dropped except for statutory r**e…meaning the absence of consent was not a mitigating circumstance…but I’m no attorney. Wonder how that judge would have reacted if it were HIS daughter… This case reinforces how many see the justice system…
That's one thing that has always frustrated me about Sharon's life. Like you said, it's ALWAYS overshadowed by her death and Roman's crimes. I'm glad you dedicated a portion to her.
If she wasn't murdered honestly she probably would have been forgotten about. That marriage would never lasted. He was cheating on her.That horrific murder gave her notoriety. She wasn't that great if actress. She was beautiful though....which also led to her being remembered. If she were average or ugly you would never hear her name.
@@merricat3025 Sharon was not meant to be caught up in those murders, though...I understand we don't know the full story...but the Tate house was hit first and her car was in the shop...but she was home. I'm sure she was not meant to be killed, she was not 'supposed' to be home. She had a red convertible that was conspicuously NOT in the driveway, I'm pretty sure if her car had been there, the killings wouldn't have happened that night, likely another night...but also, I could be wrong... but put it this way, those murders were only so notable...because Sharon was also killed...the Labianca house had far less media and police attention paid to it, by comparison and even though EVERYONE 'knew' the two killings were related...police did not even connect the two sets of murders for 4 months...right before they 'solved' them out of the blue. There is way more to that story...but it's my opinion she was not expected to be at the house, the murders would have garnered way less attention had she not been involved. The coverup was immediate due to a high profile pregnant starlet being involved...it is a bigger story than we have been fed to believe.
@@hugostiglitz5186 Yeah I didn't wanna come off as a know-it-all, but as best as I could skirt the subject...yeah I've listened to the audiobook way more times than I will ever read it...while mowing lawns or driving, on Spotify...I still can't remember all the details...but yeah her car not being there and Roman saying "which if my friends will go next..."? And the ph rings and not just his friends...his wife too...so yeah as Tom says, there have been more gruesome murders since...but if Sharon's car had been in the driveway, these murders would likely not been the sensationalist case they were and because all the files have been destroyed, 'lost' or downright hidden and quashed...arguably they are right up there with 'what aren't we being told' lore. There are just too many things that don't add up...I'm prob preaching to the choir here, but that guy who spoke to his lawyer on tape and that tape was hidden and now being withheld altogether...right after the murders but before he spoke to the cops he laid it all out for his lawyer, fuck I can't remember names...Terry Melcher was it? Even if we could hear that tape...
I’ve never heard this case discussed with this amount of dignity, respect, & empathy (for the victim). And the portion about Sharon was so refreshing, as she is often overshadowed. Thank you for the work you do, it truly does make an impact.
@@newsnowbc1934 I will say, most coverage of this case has been appallingly pervasive (hence my comment). But pretending it didn’t happen or sweeping it under the rug when it is relevant (i.e. Oscar’s backlash) helps no one. It’s not a perfect situation by any means, but being aware of what creatures like Polanski have been able to get away with is an issue of public safety.
Why do child molesters get off so easy? Why? Why aren’t any lawmakers thinking, this is a lifetime sentence of trauma for a living victim for fleeting pleasure, it’s horrifically objectively wrong. Murder is sometimes justified, this NEVER is. The justice system is so easy on sexual predators it makes me sick
It really is. Our newest member of the supreme court, the USAs highest court, has a well documented history of giving very lenient sentences to s** offenders. It's terrifying to realize how many people in high positions all over the world are predators themselves or they look the other way making them just as sick.
@@EYE_GOTCHA you said it best. Those entrusted with protecting us on the street (police), adjudicate cases once pedos have been caught (DAs and judges primarily), or even report on these disgusting crimes (media in many forms) tend to have many predators in their ranks. Makes it kinda hard to act as though they care about our children when they’re often the ones preying on our (or in lots of cases, their own) children. For the record I know that’s a broad statement and by no means are all LEOs/DAs/Judges/journalists scum. Not even close. It’s just a combo of people hiding disgusting behavior until it comes to light, and then a wall of silence and/or protection that takes place within the department/court/company. They do not want to embarrass themselves so they either handle things quietly which has no deterrent effect typically, or they sweep it entirely under the rug while pretending outwardly that there’s no tolerance for certain behavior….
Because the system is set up to protect sexual abusers. It's so common and such a huge problem that it's easier for them to just brush it off and keep moving..Also there are many people that have Come forward about being trafficked to the world's elite. Especially Hollywood. Look into Anneke lukas story. Look at how Jeffrey Epstein was able to get out of charges because of his ties to the high government Mostl of the Hollywood and political leaders are constantly blackmailing each other so they are able To get what they want
Thank you for repeatedly pointing out that this man is a scumbag and she was a victim. For those of us who have been assaulted and then blamed, it's healing to see others' situations treated the right way.
Polanski sure does like calling children “young women” and “young girls”. It’s almost like he knows that saying “I like sleeping with *children*” would sound a little different and a little less defendable or something
I agree. He makes it sound very natural to be attracted to, what I would consider, a child. Deep down, he may actually know better but his pervy beliefs have been condoned by his friends in Hollywood because Hollywood is full of pedophiles. He would never want his own kids to be subjected to anything like this. Not if he loved and cared about them.
,,what he did wasn't really rape" he forced himself on a 13 year old girl, who told him MULTIPLE times to stop. this is a textbook example of what rape is.
as long as people are saying that he forced himself on a 13 year old even if she said stop.. instead of saying that you dont touch a 13 year old even if she begs you to.. since its a child and doesnt know better.. there will be problems like this
@@darkodarko9 both are right. She said no and even if she hadn't, still no. Some parents also sold their kids. Look at prince's wife and priscilla with elvis. Disgusting people, hideous people all of them
She could have demanded him to have sex with her and he'd still be a rapist. It is on the adult to say no to a child's advances, and it's on them if they give into them.
This man disgusts me. I don’t care if the girl threw herself at him. She was a child. It’s up to the adult to know better in this situation and never allow something sexual to happen. In this case, it was obvious he was the aggressor. But either way, the adult is at fault in this situation.
Jeffrey Epstein was considered a small God in the financial industry, as well. This is what allowed him to get away with his crimes now and it enabled Polanski then.
@simon petrikov are you fucking serious? A child doesn't have the physical capacity to force themselves on an adult. If the adult is disabled we're obviously talking about a different type of case, which is also far less common, and of course we'd have to take disability into consideration, but still. Unless the minor was like, an older teen, I doubt the likelihood of something like that happening.
@simon petrikov if the adult was disabled, or physically unable to stop the child, then it'd be different. but if the adult is awake and able to stop it, then no. a child cannot rape
@simon petrikov an adult should never be in the position to be sexually taken advantage of by a child/minor. An adult should be in full control of a situation and never allow something like this to occur. In the case of say a strong teenage boy sexually attacking a smaller woman I would say is a justifiable reference for the point you’re attempting to make but to say that involving Roman Polanski is deflective and outright sick.
Having been a teenager in the 70’s I can tell you that Polanski is representative of the prevailing attitude of adults at that time. It didn’t matter how young you were, if you had been through puberty you were considered by the most adults to be able to consent regardless of the law. You were fair game. Men weren’t shamed for being with teenage girls, teenage girls were shamed for still being virgins at 14. I’m so glad that the culture has changed. I saw many of my friends suffer and blame themselves for being abused by adults. Brilliant commentary as always. Thank you
@@RosaleeSmith unfortunately MeToo isn't better, anyone can lie or exaggerate or tell decades later, telling comfortably in social media, who cares if they're guilty or not, many sever ties with the presumed culprit for respect of the presumed victims, while other crimes have real evidence and are simply ignored
His family went through all that this in the holocaust and had a wife murdered with his unborn child and instead of feeling like coming out a more honorable man to make their sacrifices worth it, he shames their memories with his disgusting crimes.
Yes, unfortunately people are complex and someone who suffered injustice can become an abuser. I grew up being taught that Holocaust survivors or people otherwise harmed by the Nazis are beyond reproach but it's simply not that easy.
It's refreshing to hear a man be so clear about sexual assault. There is no glimmer of excuse from you. I've heard so many men say things like, "you can't always tell a 13 year old is under age though" or "she was flirting, she knew what she was doing" or any other ridiculous claim. So many countries in the world still have such a low age of consent, it's horrendous
A low age of consent isn't a bad thing, imagine a 16 year old going to jail for sleeping with a 14 year old. the problem are men (mostly) who are so ignorant of the feelings of others and so focused on satisfying their sick desires that they take advantage of young girls or boys by abusing their lack of experience or the social hierarchy, along with other mechanisms. This actually extends to adults, too: they also can be taken advantage of by being in a difficult stage.
@@timecode37 The age of consent isnt that strict most of the times. In most cases the age of consent is only valid after youre a legal adult. At least in Holland and surrounding countries.
That's great. A judge is fine with a grown man forcing himself on a tween after photographing child porn, encouraging her to drink and take drugs, but God forbid you hurt his feelings.. That's where the line is drawn
Finding Angelica Huston’s role in this very disturbing! I would not let a man give a teen alcohol in front of me - and DEF not leave them alone together?! What was she thinking ???
Well, screwing a fourteen year old has never seemed to hurt David Bowie's long term 'legacy'. Anybody that doesn't know the early seventies was a VERY different time, in fact anytime before social media was a very different time. A documentary on sexual abuse in the NINETIES was done here, and the reporter couldnt get ANY teachers to comment on a case from the nineties.
She grew up with it, it was normal for her. Not an excuse. My cousin's and I got together for a few days and as we were strolling down memory lane we realized how much shady stuff was going on. We kept having to say, "Well, it was the 70s."
It’s so infuriating to me that the judge only decided to give Polanski a more serious sentence after his ego was hurt and disrespected. But when it was just the child getting hurt, it was okay for Polanski to get almost insignificant punishment.
@@tinochica I agree. It kinda makes you wonder exactly what kind of narcissism propels men into these positions of extreme power. Positions that enable them to carry out obscenities.
19:25 "She, being a 13 year old f-cking child, stated that she didn't know". Yes, absolutely. Appreciate the directness coupled with the intonation here. Well said!
Literally came down here to look for this comment- absolutely! Like, all these topics are so thoroughly researched and professionally presented, so when he finally breaks and just SAYS IT WITH HIS WHOLE CHEST what all of us were thinking it’s fantastic! I felt the same way when he let an “oh my God” slip reading the Papini self-insert fanfic post on that video, like YES EXACTLY
I praise the maker of the video for this too. However, I couldn't watch much further than this as I was starting to feel uncomfortable with the subject matter. This video appeared in my feed with a title about separating artists from their art. I had watched The Tenant for the first time in over 30 years and felt some guilt in doing so. I stopped listening to Bowie and Led Zep.for a number of years after seeing the Lori Matrix stories through the eyes of a father to girls etc.
@@BellsCuriosityShop That's probably for the best - later in the video is an interview with Roman where he tries to justify the rape to another guy, whilst joking about it and acting quite smug about it. Definitely boils your blood to hear.
@@BellsCuriosityShop The Tenant was a great, albeit creepy movie. I like almost all his movies but can’t stand him personally. I couldn’t watch his films for a long time because it makes me feel guilty for enjoying his work.
The sexualizing of young girls is part of the most abhorrent and disgusting aspects of the film/media industry and society on a whole. I had men cat call me at 13. I was SA at the age of 16 by a group of older young men (18 to mid 20s). When I speak to women I’m astounded at how many of us have had some sort of sexual violence enacted upon us. It’s heartbreaking and globally it’s even worse.
Hollywood's sexualization of young girls is just the tip of the iceberg and it's not just about girls. The whole Hollywood shebang is a pedofile ring and worse. So many adults are so incredibly naive.
(This is out of context now that all the comments got deleted). Another problem is women's attraction to the "bad boy". They get themselves into bad situations with the wrong types of guy then end up getting too much bad from the bad boy. The woman is the victim of the bad boy in that situation, but the woman is also a victim of her own poor judgment. We have all probably seen it happen in our own lives...
@@tyrlant2189 lol maybe because we are brainwashed to like the "bad boy type"? Since childhood we are told that if a boy hits us or behaves badly towards us in any way ,he likes us. Thats the way men shows love,no matter if we like it or not. Of course thats bullshit and it's not true but we were told that. So it takes time to unlearn
@@chrissy138 lmao no. Families do all they can to stop their daughters dating that kinda guy. Society teaches women to avoid criminal men btw idk what you are talking about. We practically beg women to leave or turn in their abusive men and they won't do it most times. We build special shelters and set up hotlines, we make laws to make it illegal, we make reporting abuse easy as possible-- nobody outside africa and the middle east is encouraging men to beat women or women to accept abuse, it is universally hated in the west.
@Jade Demby lmao good point Demby. I am proud you got this coherent sentence prepared and written. Maybe your problem is that so many of the men in your community are abusive or absent that you literally have no other choice? In that case I don't blame women, if all their options are bad they gotta just pick the least dangerous option and hope it works out...
I have to agree jay was the one for her and he was always there incase and quinten made specific cuts to the dvd release of his latest film only really showing jay and Sharon and Abigail and voytech.
@@matthewdeckerofficial Could we get that as a congruent statement, maybe with a smidgen of punctuation? I'm interested in what you're saying but..."She was a bit surprised as there’s possibly a chance had Sharon survived which i so badly wish she had I adore her we also lost rights to have jays original hair care line continue I would fight that." Huh?!?
Polanski forced Sharon to have sex with 2 men against her will while he filmed it…. The film was discovered the day after the Manson murders in the house by the police hidden in the loft during the police search. They watched it and returned it to the loft before Polanski returned from Europe . When he did get back, the first thing Polanski did at the house was go into the loft ! 🤮
It's insane honestly. The slap was cringe but it is completely insignificant compared to what Polanski did. Just mind boggling the difference in treatment
Unfortunately in Hollywood, men like Polanski are not an Endangered Species. Yet they get Protected status. As much as I enjoy Quintin Tarantino films, it's Tarantino's continued devotion to defending this monster that has soured my taste for his movies. It's no wonder anything related to Polanski gets flagged, old Hollywood types still consider him as a god.
Not even close to "just Hollywood".....men like Polanski are not at all rare, and world-wide men are raised to prefer the "younger ones" and that the "younger ones" are more desirable, like the whole, 'trading the wife in on a younger model, ' shtick or wealthy men feeling the need to have their trophy wives who are younger than their children. He just has the money to be more blatant and to be able to flee to where he can be "protected. "
Tarantino abused and almost got Uma Thurman killed during filming of Kill Bill 2, out of spite for her not being as pliant as he wanted her to be. There's articles where she opens up about it.
The fact that Roman Polanski got a standing ovation in absentia at the Oscars when he won Best Director in 2003 is forever a stain on anyone who stood up that night.
@@abrahamlupis9354 Well, when those people want that person to not pay for violently drugging and raping a 13-year-old girl, I don't care if that person "shows humanity through movies," that person, and those who defend him, are slime.
@@wvu05 all enjoy Qatar 2022 and all are slime because of that, check all the controversies behind it and see why we should stop focusing on stoning Roman Polanski
its so sad how shes given up on getting her own justice, i went and watched interviews with the victim and ive never seen such defeat, i cant imagine spending your whole life being punished for being molested
@@paultorgerson8776 I know it. I am one, and the only thing I got was being called a liar, a slut and people saying I enjoyed it. I was 3 when it happened.
@B s What are you talking about? NO! The “ whole world “ has not failed children. There are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people who spend every day working to help children. There’s obviously people that hurt children but your claim is absurd. Maybe YOU do nothing to help children in need, but the entire world isn’t like YOU.
It's not just him. It was prevalent in France at the time. It was almost all director and film maker. Many artist, photograph, actors, and influent people did the same as he did. I lived in France in the 70s and 80s. I've seen it in person.
The very idea that anyone would believe a thirteen year old girl would be "sexually aggressive" to a 40+ year old man is absolutely absurd. Unbelievable. Thirteen year olds are not "young women." They are girls. Children. Calling her a young woman is purposeful. It obfuscates her age to imply agency and maturity that she does not have. We need to use clear language. A young woman is a female between 18 and 30. A teenage girl is 14 to 17. And a girl child is 0 to 13. And how classic of a pedophile to claim that most men are also pedophiles. No, they aren't. Most men see a child when they look at a 13 year old. Not a sex object.
Boy your first sentence shows you haven't been around in the world much. But it doesn't matter if there ARE any 13 year old girls that would throw themselves at 40 year old men. The man MUST REJECT the advances. Or go to prison for long, long time. Of course there are very few 13 year old girls who would do such a thing. But to say none is to lie. They are taught by mom or dad or warped by what they see in life that this kind of thing is normal. And that's a terrible thing
@@markmike7933 at 13 a girl can be sexuall agressive ONLY if she was taught to be a sex object....As in beeing sexually abused so often as she thinks it is normal . If you see one of those girsl , call social services ... What you probably have seen is a 13 yo girl who discovers her sexuality and trys it out to see what it does . She actually does NOT KNOW what it is , and DOES NOT WANT to have sex ,as she DOES NOT UNDERSTAND it. That is why you say NO to her " go and play with your friends "....
Thank you! Looking at Sam’s pictures I see nothing other than a girl. Unreal how this slimy creep tries to justify his actions and people support him. It’s this sort of flippant attitude that has allowed predators to absolutely flourish in the film industry, what a cesspit Hollywood is, I wouldn’t recommend anyone allow their children anywhere near it.
I always heard the name "Roman Polanski" and heard bits and pieces about him being a sicko, but I never saw a full breakdown like this before, and all I gotta say is wtf man.
I saw The Pianist in the theater when it came out and thought it was brilliant. Somehow, I was completely ignorant of Polanski's history, and it was not discussed in the media at the time; my then-husband told me about it. At this stage in my life, I cannot separate a heinous person from his or her products.
I will be honest, I didn't know anything about this. But I sure have heard his name touted to the heavens for his movies. How shameful people in Hollywood and the media are. And how shallow the public is for believing the lives of manipulative charismatic individuals who prey on others. We can all be so easily deceived , it makes me want to do my homework on anyone I respect in the public domain.
When I glanced at your comment, I thought, (due to your screen name and my bad vision) that it said, "I always had a puppy with the name Roman Polanski and heard bits and pieces about him being a sicko" and I was gonna respond with, "damn. Get him fixed so he won't hump everything". Then when my eyes focused I realized that top line got mixed with your username lol maybe my kids are right. I need to start wearing my glasses more 🤓
@@linphillips8331 he’s no doubt a monster but Rosemary’s Baby is still one of my favorite films. I guess I can separate him from the art because film is a collaborative art form.
"Other men in her life" You mean the ONE KID who was also her age and whom she was actively dating? How tf could anyone say that he's NOT a pedophile? Guy assaults minors, admits to it, admits to being attracted to them, and is somehow NOT one? Wtf?
It’s nice to see a true crime channel take care in how it handles the subject. This was very respectful and I appreciate that. I also appreciate that you didn’t attempt to conceal your bias and simply called Roman what he is, a pedophile and rapist. I learned a lot watching this video, particularly how much the media has minimized Polanski’s crimes. I knew about this case but I didn’t realize how much I didn’t know, and how much of a monster he truly is.
“Two weeks short of fourteen”, he can say whatever he want about the age being “normal” but him trying to age her up with this seemingly innocent sentence shows that he knows, deep down, its wrong. He is trying to con the world so deep he convinced himself that what he does is normal. What a vicious sentence, i am disgusted
I caught that too! I expected dreading to point it out but it's pretty damning to let Polanski talk, & dreading pointed out many instances of RP eliding or minimizing the ages throughout the video, so I feel like they primed us properly to notice when he does it there.
Unfortunately not much has changed. There’s still so many predators out there who are protected so strongly from so many. I truly hope things may change someday and people can be held accountable rather than continuing their abuse.
I find there was a lot of overlap with that pig Weinstein. He abuses and rapes countless girls and women and it all goes completely unchecked. Hollywood is a cesspit.
@@adaswedentr Where does Depp defend him? I'm even deluded by Angelica Houston now, she really watched a 13 year old drink alcohol and leaves her alone with a grown up man :( I suppose it was already known what he was capable of?!
I think this is the first time I've heard the story in detail. I am surprised to hear how much she actually stood up for herself. Good for her!!! Unfortunately, this didn't stop him, but she was strong. Had she not stood up for herself, it would be no less reprehensible. If this is anywhere near true, Roman is both a predator and a coward.
@@Tavera12 I had no idea they'd done that and went to check for more info, and the article I found says that Harvey Weinstein wanted to start a similar petition in the US 🤢🤢🤢
If predators can't stop being predators, then that would mean that it isn't a choice for them. Which would mean that you can't hold them morally responsible for what they do, or that they're in control of their own actions. We all have free will. By saying people like him don't have the ability to stop, you also abdicate them of agency in their crimes.
@@autastic1 I said "don't" not "can't". Huge difference. And the ones that do stop generally do because they've tired of consequences. Rarely do they internalize that some actions are simply wrong, or they do but still don't care because said action is enjoyable for them.
@@suegeew9727 So, yes, some predators do stop. But now, you're saying they have little agency in how they feel. If they are so drastically easy to predetermine, what agency do they have to make the right choices?
Having read Lolita by Nabokov and the Real Lolita(Sally Horner) by Sarah Weinman( which IMO helps to clarify a lot of what Nabokov was trying to convey to his readers, which by the sounds of it 99.9% of readers missed it, Lolita was Dolores who was called Lolita by her kidnapper and abuser, she was not a precocious teen, she was abducted and abused like Sally Horner who Nabokov even references in his book Lolita). So it makes me really annoyed when people use this name "Lolita" to describe a little girl without realising what they are actually quoting, both teens, factual and fictional died before they were 18 and had their childhoods taken away from them by predatory men. Nabokov I believe never intended to portray Delores or Lolita as any other than an innocent who was taken advantage of and paid the price for another person's crime.
I’m stunned and disappointed to learn that Anjelica Houston allegedly left this 13 year old girl alone with a grown man (Roman) who was practically a stranger to the child.
Exactly my thoughts. If it was an "open secret" that he liked children, why else would he be giving her alcohol? She knew, and she did nothing. So disappointed.
Shame on Angelica Houston. This kind of predatory behavior from high level men would usually never work unless there were also high level women aiding in keeping the secret.
What's unambiguously evil is praising Roman Polanski like all those degenerate monsters in Hollywood who know what he did and still give him their applause.
Those monsters live everywhere even your own towns and pulpits. They're celebrated everywhere. But when the monster is someone you know, suddenly the victims are framed as vindictive lolitas.
@@inyrui the moment I was thinking of was the jaw dropping standing ovation he was given when Harrison Ford announced he'd won an award. It wasn't even that long ago. All those people knew what he did. Regardless of the quality of his movies. He doesn't deserve any accolades for them.
Roman claiming that Sharon’s brutal death changed him is utter BS and a case of ego-stroking. Enduring tragedy is no excuse to inflict it upon others. He didn’t grieve Sharon but rather regretted he no longer had a compliant partner by his side
One point: in that interview, Clive James, a brilliant Australian man, was expertly leading Polanski into the hole he’d dug for himself. He gave Polanski the rope, and the hole was right there…and Polanski fell right in it. Respect for Clive, he was a masterful revealer.
@@papl20 yeah I think dreading didn't realize if he condemned him super hard he wouldve just ended the interview. He had to give him said rope & plied him with food & drink just like he did to young girls
@@evancoker194 Jay stilled loved Sharon. He was her rock as she was close to giving birth. Sharon had deservedly been upset that Roman made lame excuses for not being by her side. POS! 2
Polanski was horrible to Sharon. Cheated on her, and emotionally and verbally abused her. I hate it when people champion that marriage. She deserved better in life and in love. Jay Sebring was the one who was there for her and died protecting her.
Truly refreshing to hear you state so emphatically that it doesn’t matter if the girls flirted with him, even, that his age and their age make it a crime.
@Englishteacher666 exactly, a normal adult being hit on/flirted with by a minor would immediately shut that and/or remove themself from the situation. Kids crush on adults, it’s totally normal, it’s not normal or okay for an adult to reciprocate those feelings and it’s disgusting that he tried to use that defence
i’d like to encourage everyone to look up the list of celebrities who signed the Polanski petition. there were some that really hurt my heart but im glad i know now
@@sebastianwapniarski2077 are you misunderstanding what the polanksi petition is or are you somehow so depraved and stupid that you’re praising those who signed a document defending an admitted child rapist (who was blacklisted for RAPING CHILDREN HOLY FUCK) and asking that he be allowed to go back to work subliminally influencing the minds of those all across the world with his horrible child rapey ways? bc if it’s the last one i’d like to know the names and dates of the children you raped and possibly murdered so i can inform the police. thx
@@sebastianwapniarski2077 are you misunderstanding what the polanksi petition is or are you somehow so depraved and stupid that you’re praising those who signed a document defending an admitted child rapist (who was blacklisted for RAPING CHILDREN HOLY FUCK) and asking that he be allowed to go back to work subliminally influencing the minds of those all across the world with his horrible child rapey ways? bc if it’s the last one i’d like to know the names and dates of the children you raped and possibly murdered so i can inform the police. thx
@@sebastianwapniarski2077 are you misunderstanding what the polanksi petition is or are you somehow so depraved and stupid that you’re praising those who signed a document defending an admitted child rapist (who was blacklisted for RAPING CHILDREN HOLY FUCK) and asking that he be allowed to go back to work subliminally influencing the minds of those all across the world with his horrible child rapey ways? bc if it’s the last one i’d like to know the names and dates of the children you raped and possibly murdered so i can inform the police. thx
Poor Sam! Imagine being so battered by the press that she, decades later as an adult, is now downplaying what happened to her. Polanski, the press and the judge who got his ego bruised should all be ashamed of themselves!!
@@clivebaxter6354 her life has been destroyed. Not only by the assault and the character assassination of a child, but by the media and others who have been constantly hounding her since it happened. Why shouldn't she make some money out of it? The actual perpetrator of the crime has completely gotten away with it and has continued making money and being feted by Hollywood, I really don't blame her for wanting to extract some form of compensation for everything she has gone through.
@@clivebaxter6354 She’s been “milking it” ever since being molested? What a disgusting thing to say, are you for real? What’s the time limit on how long she’s allowed to tell her story about being r*ped as a child? I’m just curious since she’s apparently “milking it” 😒
I read a bit more about the SA itself - Sam was crying and begging Polanski in between the nonconsensual acts to stop and he ignored her. What hits me about hearing someone begging Polanski not to hurt her is that Sharon Tate spent the tragic final part of her life begging the Manson murderer not to kill her and then trying to bargain for her to stay captive instead of killing her, just until her baby was born and then they could kill Sharon but just let her son or daughter have a chance of life. How can someone hear of their own spouse pleading and begging not to be hurt at the end of their life yet being shown no mercy and then abuse another human and show no mercy if they begged for it?!
Yeah , Polanski was a real true predator ... he wanted what he wanted and didn't care if it hurt others . Cold hearted . Oddly enough he has daughters now from his 3rd marriage and I wonder if he ever thinks about how he would feel if somebody did to his own girls what he had done to others' daughters ?
I think that the fact that Roman Polanski's eight month pregnant wife was brutally murdered, along with some friends and associates, played a crucial role in having an awful lot of prominate people in the entertainment industry feeling sorry for him mitigating his sexual crime in the late 1970s. I remember when his wife was killed and it sent shock waves through North America.
Polanski forced her to return to the United States ALONE because she wanted to have the baby delivered by her doctor in the States. He was laying the groundwork for an alibi, and Manson was the patsy.
Why is no one mentioning that Angelica Houston left Polanski alone in her home with a child when I am certain she would have known his reputation? Doesn't that make her somewhat complicit in the crime. Of course, Roman is the one who committed this terrible crime and still needs to pay.
I was thinking the same thing. All these people in those circles are fucking pieces of shit and no very well EXACTLY what is happening with these predators. They simply don't give a shit. Angelica Houston should be fucking ashamed. She should be charged with endangerment of a minor.
What is so sad is that Samantha is so adamant about "not being a victim" and suffering "no lasting affects" but it's clear from the way that she speaks, that she has internalized the normalization of what happened to her. She Trauma bonded to her abuser. It is incredibly clear that there was a lasting impact on her psyche.
@@tonyca6943 this is a woman who was raped as a child, then was attacked by the media and grew up listening to the child rapist be defended, who now defends and expresses a feeling of connection/solidarity with the man who raped her as a child... It's pretty clear signs of having developed a trauma bond.
In the movie HARD CANDY, Elliot Page has a line that i didnt understand until my mom gasped. They say something like "& Roman Polanski just won an oscar" after the guy pleads that he isnt a child predator.
@@ultimatepleb9143 yeah but elliot page isn’t a great person she pretends to be a boy while she’s actually a girl bro that’s downright weird in a bad way
@@donnieraczynski572 I don’t like Elliot but is he hurting anyone? NO! Don’t compare him to rapists/abusers/ pedos. He is actually helping others who feel the same way but are afraid of being judged by people like u!! Just because you find something weird doesn’t make it bad. By the way your comment comes off you sound young so I hope you can change your views and learn to be accepting of all people who are doing no harm to others. If you are actually an adult please stop taking the Bible literally. Nothing is wrong with wanting to live your best life without the judgement of the imaginary man in the sky. Santa is used to make children behave better one month out of the year. Guess what all those rules I’m the Bible r for! I’m all for religion but not for using it to condemn people who don’t follow your rules. Be a good person that’s it
He's a classic example of how being a victim doesn't always mean you're innocent. He was subjected to things that no person should face, but he also did things to people that should never be done.
@simonerea6681 A seriously disturbing amount of stories told about Jewish persecution in WWII have been fabricated whole cloth. See Eli Weizel. Total bullshit story that everyone had to read in high school. Only in the past decade has it been exposed as a work of FICTION.
I was molested as a child, by a family member. Then raped as a young teen by a older neighbor. I cringe at these people defending their behavior. It scars you for life. PTSD
My ex laughed at me and said the kid seduced him and defended him wholeheartedly. Now he's an ex, and he fkn KNEW I was assaulted at that age too. I hope he fkn burns in hell and the rest of them who defend these monsters.
My dad hates him too. I never truly understood it, but I get it now. If u ever want to know if a person in history is a piece of shit, ask my dad. He'll tell u lol
If you're wondering why he was so welcome in France, do look up the attempts to abolish age of consent spearheaded by intellectuals like Foucault at around the same time. Thought he'd be among fellow travelers, I imagine.
@@blacktigerpaw1 leftism is not just one thing, the same as being right wing. He's an anarcho-primitivist, they reject science. If you put him in a room with, say, an intersectional anarcho-communist, while they would both be leftists they would agree on nothing except "capitalism bad". His takes are bad, and he's a bad person. So is Foucault. There are many kinds of bad people and bad people often dislike other bad people. Also two things are often true at once.
@@blacktigerpaw1 I think most people would just think criticism of queer theory is outdated and wrong and not really consider it a political thing at all
His victim Sam Gailey: “I didn’t even know it was illegal, that someone could be arrested for it. I was fine, I’m still fine. The fact that we’ve made this [a big deal] weighs on me terribly. To have to constantly repeat that it wasn’t a big deal, it’s a terrible burden.” Crazy.
She sentenced many girls in the future to lives of hell with her moronic statement. But I am sure the media hounding her for decades has affected her mental health.
Dreading, you are slowly but surely becoming my new favorite true crime channel. Thank you for the time you spend on making these videos and your consistent posting of accurate content.
I feel really sick about this pedo. How is it possible that this pedo still can do what he wants. Every other guy would be put in prison. When he is death than years later people will say O this was soooo wrong. Now they shut their mouths for what reason they find. They all are part of the abuse. If their kids are violated than the war breaks out. The kids are not theirs so what. Thats the mentallity many people have in a mix of situations. The hypocricy in this world is startling. Netherlands Just look the other way of it suits.
The fact there are people in the comments on the original Polanski interview saying he was "charming" and "had a point" both horrifies and disgusts me. And also makes me wonder about their own sexual "proclivities"...
What tf do people see in him that's charming? Dude isn't particularly well spoken or kind or even interesting. He's a boring child molester and it's frankly repulsive how comfortable everyone is with him.
When you're 16 or 17 you're a minor. When you're 13, you're a freaking CHILD!!! Children don't like to behave like children around adult celebrities who promise them the future that they - naive as most children are - believe that they want. You can't sexually abuse a child that says that she's had sex before?! Give me a break!
Being a child means you are pre-puberty, that is approximatelly 10-14 years in girls and 12-16 years in boys. After your puberty you are not a child anymore. If she had sexual relationship before she is more than likely post-puberty. She wasn't a child. You trying to change facts. Why? Don't you see SA is a crime itself? What kind of person you are? If you doing SA it means you breaking the law and you should serve time. And if you doing SA against a child you should spend your whole life in prison.
@@Zodroo_Tint That's wrong, though. Before puberty BEGINS you're PRE-pubescent. If by your own definition you define a child by being in puberty, then 14 for girls is still a child because you're still in puberty. Puberty isn't something that happens in a day or even a year, it happens throughout adolescence.
“Cuddliness” God that is sad. So blatantly innocent and young. I did a lot of research on the Manson murders and I really wish he were home and Tate was away on business.
Did you ever look into the idea that Sharon was a blood sacrifice that Roman had set up? It's eerily similar to his movie Rosemary's Baby where the actor husband sacrifices his wife to deliver the anti-christ for his s@anic neighbours
They give a mass murderer "Bibi Netanyahu " multiple standing ovations in Congress, so why not give this vile child rapist a standing ovation in Hollywood ! When Jews commit crimes against us gentile people, they do not consider it to be criminal, just following the Torah !
@@evancoker194 and wno controls Hollywood ! The same group who feature in all of these vile disgusting child rape cases. Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Gizell Maxwell etc.
Something is so frustrating about his story. How does one reconcile his actions with the horrors he witnessed and experienced in his life? I feel terribly for his childhood and for the loss of his wife. Nobody should experience that. But his monstrous actions, the lack of justice for those crimes, his cowardly retreat and his continued success are sickening.
you can feel sympathy and still not root for the person. look at him as a coward and asshole who went thru a lot but also caused harm to so many. you dont have to feel frustrated just because a criminal had a hard life.
this is one of the comments I come across a lot on videos of criminals who had a hard life and/or became unhinged because of said hard times. trigger warning for sa my grandmother molested me, my cousin also molested me when we were around 10yos. I personally know that both of them have had terrible childhoods and my cousin still suffers from substance abuse and abuse from parental figures. but Ive learned to remind myself of all of these truths without letting it turn into me possible thinking of of they deserved the hard times or if this is causation or karma. you can do better. this is very imp and necessary for people to understand that just because a criminal/ abuser had a bad life and even if that caused them to hurt others, its still not an excuse or reason to hold back on their punishment/ backlash they should face.
You can feel bad for the child Roman, innocent and victimized worse than most of us can imagine, while simultaneously holding the adult Polanski in absolute contempt for his actions. Hell breeds monsters.
@@Dancingonthesun by your logic, everyone who suffered thru massive attrocities like holocaust would have become a monster. yes, a lot of abused/ victims of huge tragedies end up doing fucked up shit but a lot of those are not going out of the way to hurt others and are trying and/or succeeding in living a relatively normal life. his childhood is fucked up but its not a causation for what he did and he shouldnt be given any kind of excuse.
“Everyone should know by now that Roman has served his sentence,” Samatha Geimer said. “From my side, nobody wanted him to go to jail, but he did and it was enough. He paid his debt to society.” she said. “Anyone who thinks that he deserves to be in prison is wrong.” “Let me be very clear: what happened with Polanski was never a big problem for me,” Geimer told Seigner of the March 1 attack, which happened during a photo shoot at Jack Nicholson’s house. “I didn’t even know it was illegal, that someone could be arrested for it. I was fine, I’m still fine,” she maintained, despite previously suing him for intentional infliction of emotional distress for the assault. “The fact that we’ve made this [a big deal] weighs on me terribly,” she said, according to a translation by IndieWire. “To have to constantly repeat that it wasn’t a big deal, it’s a terrible burden.”
The fact that this man has won an award as recent as 2002 and still making movies as recent as 2019 is absolutely repulsive. Him and pretty much anyone willing to work with him since this case became public shouldve been black balled ages ago. Before watching this video I knew the name and vaguely what he did but didnt really know his works. Im a huge horror buff and have yet to see rosemary's baby. It's been on my list forever but I don't think I can ever watch it now
And yet Will Smith gets 10 year ban and blackballed in Hollywood. He shouldn't have done what he did, but when they're out here awarding child predators who flee from justice, they don't have ground to stand on and judge.
Rosemary’s Baby is still an amazing film, and Chinatown is a masterpiece. These films are not self-indulgent, nor do they directly reflect on the values of Roman Polanski. But then again, I refuse to watch The Pianist or any of the movies he made after being convicted because I cannot comprehend anyone wanting to work with him KNOWING what the fuck he did.
I remembered renting MacBeth from Blockbuster as a kid (I was probably about 13 or 14 myself) in the late 80s, because for some reason I was on a foreign movie kick and that was in the foreign/no rating section. I did recognize the name, but of course I didn't know anything about him other than he was a famous director. I also watched Rosemary's Baby with my mother. I don't think she knew about what he did because I can't imagine she would have wanted to watch anything by him, let alone with me who was a teen at the time. I learned about what he did when I was older, felt repulsed and since then won't watch any of his movies.
What you said about Sharon was spot on and I absolutely applaud you for what you said about her. You have to wonder if she had lived what she would have blossomed into. That's what makes her case so absolutely haunting and extremely hard to accept. One has to wonder How could someone so beautiful inside and out suffer from such a horrific fate? How could someone take that life away from her?
“After a year of tremendous struggle and hardship”…. He’s pure filth. What about the lifelong damage he caused his young victims?!! He is so obviously, thinks he is, or should be, above the law. Freaks like him feel entitled to say the least. He is a narcissist.
I was always bothered that Polanski and Allen didn't get as much coverage as other predators. That's why I'm thankful that you covered Polanski here. I made the mistake and read the transcript of his victim's statement. This stuff haunted me for a long time and still can't believe that he got awards and praise afterwards. It's not like he would have done some time behind bars and you could say:"Look, he is a changed man now! He is rehabilitated and deserves a second chance." Yes, he is a brilliant artist who made astounding movies but he shouldn't have gotten away with this disturbing crime.
It’s ironic that Mia Farrow starred in Rosemary’s Baby. Great film cinematically, but creepy story. Ronan Farrow, her son, reported on sexual predators in Hollywood. Wild
I like him more than jcs people praise them but you can only go so far with interrogation footage. This is well researched well narrated content and it’s always quality.
If we are always to believe the victims, then three of the last four presidents are rapists: Clinton, Trump, and Biden were all accused of rape. Do we believe their accusers? Biden was accused of a heinous rape, though most of the press has ignored this. So, why do we hate Polanski but not Biden? Neither has been convicted of a crime. What criteria do we use to judge accused predators who haven't been convicted of anything?
When I was a young girl, I had many experiences of men trying to "take advantage". I was tall and was always mistaken for being much much older than I really was. But this was not always the case, and is definitely not an excuse for predatory behavior. I was not always successful at escaping them, but as a child I didn't have the skills or the understanding of what was really happening. As a teenager, I remember one time a friend of a friend was wanting, or expecting to have sex with me at the end of the night. I said no, and he proceeded to try to "work out" why I didn't want to have sex with him, why I was saying no. He asked me if I was gay, if I had my period and each time I would again state that I just didn't want to have sex. Then, after a break in this conversation he asked triumphantly "Ooooooh, do you have an STD/STI?". I will never forget that night, he could not believe that someone just didn't want to have sex - especially with him, so OBVIOUSLY there had to be another reason. An STD ffs, yeah, that's what it was man, Jesus Christ. No, I did not have an sti. Years later I thought that that might have been a good thing to say in an uncomfortable situation with any older man trying to get what he wanted. I think that almost every woman would have a story/s about being preyed upon, especially when they were younger. I don't know if things have changed since I was young, I hope so, but sadly I doubt it.
@secretsquirrel My best friend’s boyfriend cornered me in a bathroom when I was 14 to tell me how he only went out with her to get to me, as if I’d want his ugly ass and then *especially* after saying such a disrespectful thing about my friend. When I was nonplussed, he told me, “I could rape you right here and now,” and I just pushed my way past him, surprising him, I think. Turned out he had just SA’d her a week before while a group of us were in the next room, not knowing it was happening, and she didn’t say anything because she wanted to have a boyfriend. I was so angry when she told me later what he actually did to her, and I felt so helpless. In this case, the boy was only a year older, but that was far from the only time someone threatened to SA me or actually did it to one of my friends. I had two stalkers at that time in my life, one in his late 20’s and one in his 40’s. I guess I was supposed to feel complimented, but instead I was afraid and angry.
I think he actually was just trying to make you feel like you were being a weirdo for saying no. He wasn't surprised you were saying "no." He didn't think you were a lesbian or that you had an STD. He was just trying to give a young person a head trip and get you to do it to prove you were "normal".
After listening to her account of what he did my rage kept building up knowing that Hollywood kept protecting him after he fled prosecution and even gave him a standing ovation when they gave him an Oscar for the Pianist. Vile.
Unfortunately, many young women pursue disgusting men like Polanski to advance in their careers. She didn't love Polanski, so his affairs are irrelevant in this case. What happened to her and Jay is horrific but I'm not for a second believe that she wasn't romantically involved with Jay.
The Manson Family always needed money. Polanski liked having the freedom of fooling around with many young girls. He doesn't seem the type that would want to be tied down to an adult woman who was pregnant with his child. Then he happens to be out of town when Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson Family. Then he is fully unburdened. Why wasn't this explored? Why did so many turn a blind eye to everything? Hollyweird is a satanic swamp that needs to drop into the Pacific. What a piece of shit as well as all the people that supported him.
Thank u for calling this what it is. Women around the world appreciate and recognize the support you have brought to this subject. Keep up the wonderful work. ❤
Even if you don't like the film, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Margo Robbie's portrayal of Sharon Tate was one of the best portrayals I've seen. The whole movie highlights how beautiful she was on the inside. How much love she had to share, how she just couldn't help but care for people. The alternate ending to the story of her death made me cry because we all wish that happened, and not the reality. Sharon Tate was a kind, sweet soul and never deserved to be married to such a horrible person, or to come to an end the way she did. Fuck Roman Polanski
I didn’t know anything about his past at that point. In hindsight, I recall Harrison Ford’s reaction to the cheers as he stood on the stage, making the announcement.
What Ive often questioned,is how does Debra Tate continue to uphold this pedophile? Ive also wondered what exactly Sharon Tate saw in this person because from things that Ive read,he didnt exactly treat her with much respect.
The past,the Holocaust, poverty, nothing is an excuse for a monster. My grandparents,my father, my aunt and their families lived horrors of war,famen,comunist prison. They were the most beautiful souls I ve ever met. Genes, education, character make the difference.
This video took a long time for me to get through - as the father of a young girl, I had to shut it off several times. There's no doubt Polanski is a talented filmmaker who's suffered his own tragedies, but there's no excuse; the man deserves to be behind bars.
I'm reminded of what Monica Lewinsky went through in hearing how this 13 year was portrayed by the media as a sexual predator. I know the 70s was a different time - I experienced them as a child - but these horrific fantasies of "consent" propagated by Polanski and his pals is batsh!t insane.
It was never "the private lives of adults are protected under the constitution as our right to privacy" It was never "Such gossip is irrelevant to matters of state" it was "i did not have sex with that woman". When you drill into that, the scandal gets WORSE. Instead of defending privacy, something that would be removed less than a decade later by the Patriot Act, he lied. He threw an intern and a subordinate under the bus to protect himself. Yet he still get's praise for being such a "good" president, despite making the honor act that created the student loan crisis, terrible middle east policy that created the war on terror, gutting taxes and shrinking the government.
@@naughtyhieroglyph669 And as outlined in "13th", continuing the 'war' on drugs which saw millions of black men imprisoned to satisfy the prison-industrial complex. A truly terrible president, a truly terrible man.
I'd generally avoided the specifics of his case before now. Knowing that he victimised such young people was enough for me. I definitely feel like I did a disservice to the victims by not learning more. The Quaaludes, the alcohol, the enabling. It makes me sick.
What I find interesting is that Harvey sent out a petition for a pardon for Polanski, he had nothing but support. but as soon as it became fashionable and okay to shit on Weinstein, everyone did so. So why is Polanski still respected? Why does he not have the same reaction?
Right? Like, you just saw this man give a 13 year old *child* alcohol and you just... take off? Then come back hours later and the kid's still there and you're just like 'oh, okay.'?
@Jack yes, that is possible in cases where the female is not in direct correlation to the crime that was committed. Like let’s say the a young mom leaves her child with her boyfriend of 9 months, and the baby is severely injured by the boyfriend. You will have people who jump right to blaming the mom and saying that she “should’ve known better” though she had NO indications he would do it. That would be a scenario where “female culpability” was used to diminish the man’s actions. Here we have the case of another ADULT, regardless of gender, who failed to protect a child. It could’ve easily been Jack Nicholson, and if it had been, we would be saying the same thing about him. I honestly don’t think a single person wouldn’t be in the comment section saying the exact same thing about the responsibility factor. Angelica saw a person who was known in social circles to be inappropriate with young girls, and saw him give a child alcohol. Then was just like “bye ✌️”. Seriously? Don’t waste your energy here. Go to the comments of the videos where women are ACTUALLY being criticized over men who have committed heinous crimes.
It felt good to listen to someone just bluntly call Roman Polanski exactly what he is for 55 minutes. Refreshing. Thank you
Yes! I was disgusted the way meryl streep and hollywood applauded him a few years ago. My stomache turned
@@mishkap5219 You can and should applaud the work even if one of the people behind it is a scumbag. If you can't separate the two things then stop watching movies and tv and sports, and stop listening to music. They're full of people who are filth and scumbags.
So he liked to see people suffer? Just like G. Soros.
He is! But ; Unfortunately he was not the first and he won’t be the last!
@@mishkap5219
Johnny Depp is on RUclips defending him too.
That really shocked me.
My sister was 12 and had never as much as kissed anyone when she was lured into an empty home and raped by five older teens. She was too scared to tell our parents fearing their wrath so she didn’t. For two weeks the boys bragged about it and spoke of it as if my sister had been willing. The entire community was gossiping about it and convicted my sister of being a slut in their minds. Parents, teachers and all the kids treated my sister so horribly. The mothers of all the girls on the pep squad voted my sister couldn’t join them on their trip to Disneyland due to her being of “bad character”. It was 1982. It destroyed my sister. She never recovered and ended up getting severely addicted to drugs. She’s homeless now and I don’t know where she is. It’s heartbreaking.
What an awful story.....so very sorry
I'm very sorry for you. Please look for her, its never too late for all of you to heal.
I hope you can at least know where she is as soon as possible. I'm so sorry for your family's suffering, & the continuing traumatic situation your sister's in is so sad. What does "getting justice" ever mean if we can't even give people support they need to heal, or prevent new victimizations, let alone when predators are rewarded for their aggressions? I'm so sorry. I wish you & your sister the best.
I'm so sorry for the torment your sister went through.
I live in up state NY in the city of Rochester. If there is anything I can do to assist you in finding your sister let me know. I to believe it is never to late to heal.
I know that this is like the bare minimum, but I really appreciate how often you refer to the 13 year old as a child. Nothing boils my blood more than when people refer to children as a “young women/ man” because it almost pins the blame of these abusers on these “provocative children” rather than their twisted desires.
THAT THEY FORCE ON OTHER'S AGAINST THEIR WILL AND TO SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD!
I’ve never heard anyone refer to a 13 year old as a young woman or young man in cases such as these. The most common term used for anyone from 13-17 years of age is a “teen” or “teenager”.
However, the word “child” is also fitting…as anyone under the age of 18 is not considered a legal adult - and the opposite of an adult would be a child.
The word “child” also evokes much more emotion intuitively, which I think is a better fit for cases like these.
@@amberjulia123some of the adults/authority figures do in schools, they say "young man/lady" which doesn't always mean they're pedos but some of them are and no one would know until they get caught with a student or outside. one of the gym teachers at one of the schools i went to got caught molesting kids in the gymnasium and while they never assigned me a gym class, one of my classes was on the way towards his section and I seen him before and knew what he looked like, poor kids i hope they can recover from the horror they went through.
She very well may be a provocative sexually active minor, they exist. You know what a proper adult does with one? Calls their fuckin parents and tells on them.
@@TheBigMclargehuge TF did you deleted where that double space in your comment is. Seems you wanted to say something else.
So kidnapping, repeatedly raping and holding a child hostage only gets you 40 days suspended jail time but DISRESPECTING A JUDGE will get you 50 years??? WHAT?!?! What is wrong with these people?! Change the laws and oust crappy judges already!
There is no different between a Judge & a Politician. 1 is controlled because he is elected. The other is controlled because he is selected.
40 days was just cause hes of the tribe. None of this would ever have been tolerated in a regular person.
It ain’t called the JEW-dicial system for nothin!
Logic and Power are unrelated.
Another detail that I found extremely disturbing was after the child testified that she was drugged and said no several times, all charges dropped except for statutory r**e…meaning the absence of consent was not a mitigating circumstance…but I’m no attorney. Wonder how that judge would have reacted if it were HIS daughter…
This case reinforces how many see the justice system…
That's one thing that has always frustrated me about Sharon's life. Like you said, it's ALWAYS overshadowed by her death and Roman's crimes. I'm glad you dedicated a portion to her.
She and others were killed because of what he did, Polanski and “elite”was doing…
If she wasn't murdered honestly she probably would have been forgotten about. That marriage would never lasted. He was cheating on her.That horrific murder gave her notoriety. She wasn't that great if actress. She was beautiful though....which also led to her being remembered. If she were average or ugly you would never hear her name.
@@merricat3025 Sharon was not meant to be caught up in those murders, though...I understand we don't know the full story...but the Tate house was hit first and her car was in the shop...but she was home. I'm sure she was not meant to be killed, she was not 'supposed' to be home. She had a red convertible that was conspicuously NOT in the driveway, I'm pretty sure if her car had been there, the killings wouldn't have happened that night, likely another night...but also, I could be wrong... but put it this way, those murders were only so notable...because Sharon was also killed...the Labianca house had far less media and police attention paid to it, by comparison and even though EVERYONE 'knew' the two killings were related...police did not even connect the two sets of murders for 4 months...right before they 'solved' them out of the blue. There is way more to that story...but it's my opinion she was not expected to be at the house, the murders would have garnered way less attention had she not been involved. The coverup was immediate due to a high profile pregnant starlet being involved...it is a bigger story than we have been fed to believe.
@@jeremybartlett1706 Are you familiar with Tom O'Neill? Search him on here.
@@hugostiglitz5186 Yeah I didn't wanna come off as a know-it-all, but as best as I could skirt the subject...yeah I've listened to the audiobook way more times than I will ever read it...while mowing lawns or driving, on Spotify...I still can't remember all the details...but yeah her car not being there and Roman saying "which if my friends will go next..."? And the ph rings and not just his friends...his wife too...so yeah as Tom says, there have been more gruesome murders since...but if Sharon's car had been in the driveway, these murders would likely not been the sensationalist case they were and because all the files have been destroyed, 'lost' or downright hidden and quashed...arguably they are right up there with 'what aren't we being told' lore. There are just too many things that don't add up...I'm prob preaching to the choir here, but that guy who spoke to his lawyer on tape and that tape was hidden and now being withheld altogether...right after the murders but before he spoke to the cops he laid it all out for his lawyer, fuck I can't remember names...Terry Melcher was it? Even if we could hear that tape...
I’ve never heard this case discussed with this amount of dignity, respect, & empathy (for the victim). And the portion about Sharon was so refreshing, as she is often overshadowed. Thank you for the work you do, it truly does make an impact.
Well said
Respect and empathy for the victim would include honouring her wishes and not continuing on about it.
She deserved a whole lot better than what she got.
@@newsnowbc1934 I will say, most coverage of this case has been appallingly pervasive (hence my comment). But pretending it didn’t happen or sweeping it under the rug when it is relevant (i.e. Oscar’s backlash) helps no one. It’s not a perfect situation by any means, but being aware of what creatures like Polanski have been able to get away with is an issue of public safety.
Exactly, I thought the same thing and you expressed it in better words than I could.
Why do child molesters get off so easy? Why? Why aren’t any lawmakers thinking, this is a lifetime sentence of trauma for a living victim for fleeting pleasure, it’s horrifically objectively wrong. Murder is sometimes justified, this NEVER is. The justice system is so easy on sexual predators it makes me sick
It really is. Our newest member of the supreme court, the USAs highest court, has a well documented history of giving very lenient sentences to s** offenders. It's terrifying to realize how many people in high positions all over the world are predators themselves or they look the other way making them just as sick.
Because so so so many people in said justice system ARE sexual predators unfortunately 🥲
Many get off easy because those in power are often just as sick - imo, of course.
@@EYE_GOTCHA you said it best. Those entrusted with protecting us on the street (police), adjudicate cases once pedos have been caught (DAs and judges primarily), or even report on these disgusting crimes (media in many forms) tend to have many predators in their ranks. Makes it kinda hard to act as though they care about our children when they’re often the ones preying on our (or in lots of cases, their own) children.
For the record I know that’s a broad statement and by no means are all LEOs/DAs/Judges/journalists scum. Not even close. It’s just a combo of people hiding disgusting behavior until it comes to light, and then a wall of silence and/or protection that takes place within the department/court/company. They do not want to embarrass themselves so they either handle things quietly which has no deterrent effect typically, or they sweep it entirely under the rug while pretending outwardly that there’s no tolerance for certain behavior….
Because the system is set up to protect sexual abusers. It's so common and such a huge problem that it's easier for them to just brush it off and keep moving..Also there are many people that have Come forward about being trafficked to the world's elite. Especially Hollywood. Look into Anneke lukas story. Look at how Jeffrey Epstein was able to get out of charges because of his ties to the high government Mostl of the Hollywood and political leaders are constantly blackmailing each other so they are able To get what they want
Thank you for repeatedly pointing out that this man is a scumbag and she was a victim.
For those of us who have been assaulted and then blamed, it's healing to see others' situations treated the right way.
Polanski sure does like calling children “young women” and “young girls”. It’s almost like he knows that saying “I like sleeping with *children*” would sound a little different and a little less defendable or something
I agree. He makes it sound very natural to be attracted to, what I would consider, a child. Deep down, he may actually know better but his pervy beliefs have been condoned by his friends in Hollywood because Hollywood is full of pedophiles. He would never want his own kids to be subjected to anything like this. Not if he loved and cared about them.
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Ugh, yes! I hate it when someone call’s a girl “young woman”, fucking creep’s
I don't want to defend him, but he's probably a hebephile, not a pedophile and honestly, I think there's a big difference.
R. Kelly used the same defense when asked about his attraction to teen girls.
,,what he did wasn't really rape" he forced himself on a 13 year old girl, who told him MULTIPLE times to stop. this is a textbook example of what rape is.
And drugged her first
as long as people are saying that he forced himself on a 13 year old even if she said stop.. instead of saying that you dont touch a 13 year old even if she begs you to.. since its a child and doesnt know better.. there will be problems like this
@@darkodarko9 An incredibly good point
@@darkodarko9 both are right. She said no and even if she hadn't, still no. Some parents also sold their kids. Look at prince's wife and priscilla with elvis. Disgusting people, hideous people all of them
She could have demanded him to have sex with her and he'd still be a rapist. It is on the adult to say no to a child's advances, and it's on them if they give into them.
This man disgusts me. I don’t care if the girl threw herself at him. She was a child. It’s up to the adult to know better in this situation and never allow something sexual to happen. In this case, it was obvious he was the aggressor. But either way, the adult is at fault in this situation.
HEAR! HEAR!
Jeffrey Epstein was considered a small God in the financial industry, as well. This is what allowed him to get away with his crimes now and it enabled Polanski then.
@simon petrikov are you fucking serious? A child doesn't have the physical capacity to force themselves on an adult.
If the adult is disabled we're obviously talking about a different type of case, which is also far less common, and of course we'd have to take disability into consideration, but still. Unless the minor was like, an older teen, I doubt the likelihood of something like that happening.
@simon petrikov if the adult was disabled, or physically unable to stop the child, then it'd be different. but if the adult is awake and able to stop it, then no. a child cannot rape
@simon petrikov an adult should never be in the position to be sexually taken advantage of by a child/minor. An adult should be in full control of a situation and never allow something like this to occur. In the case of say a strong teenage boy sexually attacking a smaller woman I would say is a justifiable reference for the point you’re attempting to make but to say that involving Roman Polanski is deflective and outright sick.
Having been a teenager in the 70’s I can tell you that Polanski is representative of the prevailing attitude of adults at that time. It didn’t matter how young you were, if you had been through puberty you were considered by the most adults to be able to consent regardless of the law. You were fair game. Men weren’t shamed for being with teenage girls, teenage girls were shamed for still being virgins at 14. I’m so glad that the culture has changed. I saw many of my friends suffer and blame themselves for being abused by adults. Brilliant commentary as always. Thank you
I was a teenager in the 70's too, and I have no idea where you grew up, but it sounds like another planet. My view is almost a polar opposite.
of course the culture has changed, now 14 year old teens are ashamed of their body or experience disphoria and modify their body immediately
That persisted until MeToo.
@@RosaleeSmith unfortunately MeToo isn't better, anyone can lie or exaggerate or tell decades later, telling comfortably in social media, who cares if they're guilty or not, many sever ties with the presumed culprit for respect of the presumed victims, while other crimes have real evidence and are simply ignored
In the Usa. In Europe that was not a case.
His family went through all that this in the holocaust and had a wife murdered with his unborn child and instead of feeling like coming out a more honorable man to make their sacrifices worth it, he shames their memories with his disgusting crimes.
Yes, unfortunately people are complex and someone who suffered injustice can become an abuser. I grew up being taught that Holocaust survivors or people otherwise harmed by the Nazis are beyond reproach but it's simply not that easy.
My thought exactly, people use this as an excuse for his behavior
He was never that great of person as an adult
Yea because as we all know trauma don't lead to untreated mental health. Especially in the old days. Crazy how he would be SOB.🤦🏿♂️
Not surprised considering that his kind are quite degenerate. Shame he didnt join with his mother into the bakery 🙄
It's refreshing to hear a man be so clear about sexual assault. There is no glimmer of excuse from you. I've heard so many men say things like, "you can't always tell a 13 year old is under age though" or "she was flirting, she knew what she was doing" or any other ridiculous claim. So many countries in the world still have such a low age of consent, it's horrendous
"I didn't know she was underage" is such bullshit. It's obvious when you're talking to a child
A low age of consent isn't a bad thing, imagine a 16 year old going to jail for sleeping with a 14 year old. the problem are men (mostly) who are so ignorant of the feelings of others and so focused on satisfying their sick desires that they take advantage of young girls or boys by abusing their lack of experience or the social hierarchy, along with other mechanisms. This actually extends to adults, too: they also can be taken advantage of by being in a difficult stage.
@@timecode37 The age of consent isnt that strict most of the times. In most cases the age of consent is only valid after youre a legal adult. At least in Holland and surrounding countries.
@@timecode37 That's insane. 14 year olds should NOT be having sex!!
@@Rdwrer yeah, but try to stop them and you'll see it won't work, so why make it illegal?
That's great. A judge is fine with a grown man forcing himself on a tween after photographing child porn, encouraging her to drink and take drugs, but God forbid you hurt his feelings.. That's where the line is drawn
Yeah it's pretty messed up that he didn't really care for justice until roman made him look stupid af
fucking weird and gross
It reminds me of the case of Dominique Dunne (who played the older daughter in Poltergeist). Such a sad, infuriating story. That judge was trash.
Male ego is deadly for so many
@@hangoutwithme346 the ego is deadly for many*
Finding Angelica Huston’s role in this very disturbing! I would not let a man give a teen alcohol in front of me - and DEF not leave them alone together?! What was she thinking ???
Read her memoir about her father’s behavior around her and you’ll see it in another light. He was another “famous” director.
Well, screwing a fourteen year old has never seemed to hurt David Bowie's long term 'legacy'. Anybody that doesn't know the early seventies was a VERY different time, in fact anytime before social media was a very different time. A documentary on sexual abuse in the NINETIES was done here, and the reporter couldnt get ANY teachers to comment on a case from the nineties.
Angelica Huston never has never had kids, so she had no idea what she was doing.
@@mikearchibald-u6gthe 60’s and 70’s were very different times, it’s exactly what I thought.
She grew up with it, it was normal for her. Not an excuse. My cousin's and I got together for a few days and as we were strolling down memory lane we realized how much shady stuff was going on. We kept having to say, "Well, it was the 70s."
It’s so infuriating to me that the judge only decided to give Polanski a more serious sentence after his ego was hurt and disrespected. But when it was just the child getting hurt, it was okay for Polanski to get almost insignificant punishment.
A lot of judges are predators. Some are protected until after death. Evil hypocrites
@@AS-wj1du I dont like being cynical but there’s really so much scum literally at the highest posts of our system across the world
Welcome to the real world
@@tinochica I agree. It kinda makes you wonder exactly what kind of narcissism propels men into these positions of extreme power. Positions that enable them to carry out obscenities.
@@tinochica Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely!
19:25 "She, being a 13 year old f-cking child, stated that she didn't know". Yes, absolutely. Appreciate the directness coupled with the intonation here. Well said!
Literally came down here to look for this comment- absolutely! Like, all these topics are so thoroughly researched and professionally presented, so when he finally breaks and just SAYS IT WITH HIS WHOLE CHEST what all of us were thinking it’s fantastic! I felt the same way when he let an “oh my God” slip reading the Papini self-insert fanfic post on that video, like YES EXACTLY
I praise the maker of the video for this too. However, I couldn't watch much further than this as I was starting to feel uncomfortable with the subject matter.
This video appeared in my feed with a title about separating artists from their art. I had watched The Tenant for the first time in over 30 years and felt some guilt in doing so. I stopped listening to Bowie and Led Zep.for a number of years after seeing the Lori Matrix stories through the eyes of a father to girls etc.
@@BellsCuriosityShop That's probably for the best - later in the video is an interview with Roman where he tries to justify the rape to another guy, whilst joking about it and acting quite smug about it. Definitely boils your blood to hear.
@@BellsCuriosityShop The Tenant was a great, albeit creepy movie. I like almost all his movies but can’t stand him personally. I couldn’t watch his films for a long time because it makes me feel guilty for enjoying his work.
@NaturalLawIsBroken Kids have been pimped out by shitty parents for years, maybe centuries. This isn't anything "new". It's always happened.
The sexualizing of young girls is part of the most abhorrent and disgusting aspects of the film/media industry and society on a whole. I had men cat call me at 13. I was SA at the age of 16 by a group of older young men (18 to mid 20s). When I speak to women I’m astounded at how many of us have had some sort of sexual violence enacted upon us. It’s heartbreaking and globally it’s even worse.
Hollywood's sexualization of young girls is just the tip of the iceberg and it's not just about girls. The whole Hollywood shebang is a pedofile ring and worse. So many adults are so incredibly naive.
(This is out of context now that all the comments got deleted). Another problem is women's attraction to the "bad boy". They get themselves into bad situations with the wrong types of guy then end up getting too much bad from the bad boy. The woman is the victim of the bad boy in that situation, but the woman is also a victim of her own poor judgment. We have all probably seen it happen in our own lives...
@@tyrlant2189 lol maybe because we are brainwashed to like the "bad boy type"? Since childhood we are told that if a boy hits us or behaves badly towards us in any way ,he likes us. Thats the way men shows love,no matter if we like it or not. Of course thats bullshit and it's not true but we were told that. So it takes time to unlearn
@@chrissy138 lmao no. Families do all they can to stop their daughters dating that kinda guy.
Society teaches women to avoid criminal men btw idk what you are talking about. We practically beg women to leave or turn in their abusive men and they won't do it most times. We build special shelters and set up hotlines, we make laws to make it illegal, we make reporting abuse easy as possible-- nobody outside africa and the middle east is encouraging men to beat women or women to accept abuse, it is universally hated in the west.
@Jade Demby lmao good point Demby. I am proud you got this coherent sentence prepared and written.
Maybe your problem is that so many of the men in your community are abusive or absent that you literally have no other choice? In that case I don't blame women, if all their options are bad they gotta just pick the least dangerous option and hope it works out...
Vile little man , how he could admit to this and still be revered by the film industry is amazing.
He should be in jail with Weinstein.
Hollywood has always been an evil place and still is.
It's not amazing at all it is white male privelege especially rich wm. And it has been happening for centuries.
Even before he committed his abhorrent acts, I detest the way he treated Sharon, he didn't deserve her.
Amen!
I have to agree jay was the one for her and he was always there incase and quinten made specific cuts to the dvd release of his latest film only really showing jay and Sharon and Abigail and voytech.
@@matthewdeckerofficial Jay died trying to protect Sharon. He's a hero.
@@matthewdeckerofficial Could we get that as a congruent statement, maybe with a smidgen of punctuation? I'm interested in what you're saying but..."She was a bit surprised as there’s possibly a chance had Sharon survived which i so badly wish she had I adore her we also lost rights to have jays original hair care line continue I would fight that."
Huh?!?
Polanski forced Sharon to have sex with 2 men against her will while he filmed it…. The film was discovered the day after the Manson murders in the house by the police hidden in the loft during the police search. They watched it and returned it to the loft before Polanski returned from Europe . When he did get back, the first thing Polanski did at the house was go into the loft !
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The Oscars banned Will for 10 years but awarded Polanski an award in his criminal exile.
Okay.
It's insane honestly. The slap was cringe but it is completely insignificant compared to what Polanski did. Just mind boggling the difference in treatment
That's how Pedowood rolls.
They also invited Harvey Weinstein AFTER THEY KNEW he was a client sex abuser rapist
And there was a standing ovation. Imagine how his victim felt 😞
What movie? I won’t watch it whatever it is.
Unfortunately in Hollywood, men like Polanski are not an Endangered Species. Yet they get Protected status. As much as I enjoy Quintin Tarantino films, it's Tarantino's continued devotion to defending this monster that has soured my taste for his movies. It's no wonder anything related to Polanski gets flagged, old Hollywood types still consider him as a god.
Not even close to "just Hollywood".....men like Polanski are not at all rare, and world-wide men are raised to prefer the "younger ones" and that the "younger ones" are more desirable, like the whole, 'trading the wife in on a younger model, ' shtick or wealthy men feeling the need to have their trophy wives who are younger than their children. He just has the money to be more blatant and to be able to flee to where he can be "protected. "
Yuck, Tarantino defends this monster?
Tarantino abused and almost got Uma Thurman killed during filming of Kill Bill 2, out of spite for her not being as pliant as he wanted her to be. There's articles where she opens up about it.
@J233 779 are ypu really surprised Mr foot fetish abuser supported a pedo?
I must have missed all of that, when has Tarantino continually defended Polanski?
Pulanski has yet to be cancelled. Hollywood continues to support him. No one speaks out against him.
Not no one exactly but far too few.
oy vey
Speaking out against him would be antisemitic
Exactly so! A fat and true fact too often ignored or even mentioned. @@Rumpleforeskin77
The more rich, famous, and well-connected they are, the worse it is. Another example is Tom Hanks.
The fact that Roman Polanski got a standing ovation in absentia at the Oscars when he won Best Director in 2003 is forever a stain on anyone who stood up that night.
nah
@@abrahamlupis9354 So, you like child rapists?
@@wvu05 no, talented directors that show humanity on their movies
People like corrupt World Cups anyways
@@abrahamlupis9354 Well, when those people want that person to not pay for violently drugging and raping a 13-year-old girl, I don't care if that person "shows humanity through movies," that person, and those who defend him, are slime.
@@wvu05 all enjoy Qatar 2022 and all are slime because of that, check all the controversies behind it and see why we should stop focusing on stoning Roman Polanski
its so sad how shes given up on getting her own justice, i went and watched interviews with the victim and ive never seen such defeat, i cant imagine spending your whole life being punished for being molested
So sad. Victims should never be punished.
We don't have to imagine. All victims of pedophiles feel like that.
@@paultorgerson8776 I know it. I am one, and the only thing I got was being called a liar, a slut and people saying I enjoyed it.
I was 3 when it happened.
@@paultorgerson8776 the world world failed the children
@B s
What are you talking about? NO! The “ whole world “ has not failed children. There are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people who spend every day working to help children. There’s obviously people that hurt children but your claim is absurd. Maybe YOU do nothing to help children in need, but the entire world isn’t like YOU.
I prefer younger women
13 year old is not a woman that's a child,
''she had other men in her life''
She had a BOYfriend, who was around her age.
I ask you for the last time, what was she doing there alone with a middle aged man?
He's gross, a criminal and a narcissist, so glad you are exposing him for what he truly is.
Picasso was a serial rapist and abuser. Nobody is throwing his paintings of those activities on the trash.
David Duke has entered the chat@@RabbiShmuelShecklestien
It's not just him. It was prevalent in France at the time. It was almost all director and film maker. Many artist, photograph, actors, and influent people did the same as he did. I lived in France in the 70s and 80s. I've seen it in person.
maybe you shouldn't admit to watching pedophilia in person in writing@@MarvinHartmann452
That's so sad to hear @@MarvinHartmann452
The very idea that anyone would believe a thirteen year old girl would be "sexually aggressive" to a 40+ year old man is absolutely absurd. Unbelievable.
Thirteen year olds are not "young women." They are girls. Children. Calling her a young woman is purposeful. It obfuscates her age to imply agency and maturity that she does not have. We need to use clear language. A young woman is a female between 18 and 30. A teenage girl is 14 to 17. And a girl child is 0 to 13.
And how classic of a pedophile to claim that most men are also pedophiles. No, they aren't. Most men see a child when they look at a 13 year old. Not a sex object.
Boy your first sentence shows you haven't been around in the world much.
But it doesn't matter if there ARE any 13 year old girls that would throw themselves at 40 year old men. The man MUST REJECT the advances.
Or go to prison for long, long time.
Of course there are very few 13 year old girls who would do such a thing. But to say none is to lie.
They are taught by mom or dad or warped by what they see in life that this kind of thing is normal.
And that's a terrible thing
@@markmike7933 at 13 a girl can be sexuall agressive ONLY if she was taught to be a sex object....As in beeing sexually abused so often as she thinks it is normal .
If you see one of those girsl , call social services ...
What you probably have seen is a 13 yo girl who discovers her sexuality and trys it out to see what it does . She actually does NOT KNOW what it is , and DOES NOT WANT to have sex ,as she DOES NOT UNDERSTAND it.
That is why you say NO to her " go and play with your friends "....
Thank you! Looking at Sam’s pictures I see nothing other than a girl. Unreal how this slimy creep tries to justify his actions and people support him. It’s this sort of flippant attitude that has allowed predators to absolutely flourish in the film industry, what a cesspit Hollywood is, I wouldn’t recommend anyone allow their children anywhere near it.
@@speedy7040 excellently put 👏🏽👏🏽
@@markmike7933 how dumb can you be?
I always heard the name "Roman Polanski" and heard bits and pieces about him being a sicko, but I never saw a full breakdown like this before, and all I gotta say is wtf man.
I saw The Pianist in the theater when it came out and thought it was brilliant. Somehow, I was completely ignorant of Polanski's history, and it was not discussed in the media at the time; my then-husband told me about it. At this stage in my life, I cannot separate a heinous person from his or her products.
I will be honest, I didn't know anything about this. But I sure have heard his name touted to the heavens for his movies. How shameful people in Hollywood and the media are. And how shallow the public is for believing the lives of manipulative charismatic individuals who prey on others. We can all be so easily deceived , it makes me want to do my homework on anyone I respect in the public domain.
When I glanced at your comment, I thought, (due to your screen name and my bad vision) that it said, "I always had a puppy with the name Roman Polanski and heard bits and pieces about him being a sicko" and I was gonna respond with, "damn. Get him fixed so he won't hump everything". Then when my eyes focused I realized that top line got mixed with your username lol maybe my kids are right. I need to start wearing my glasses more 🤓
@@monicapyle Okay your comment made me laugh 😂😂😂😂
@@linphillips8331 he’s no doubt a monster but Rosemary’s Baby is still one of my favorite films. I guess I can separate him from the art because film is a collaborative art form.
"Other men in her life"
You mean the ONE KID who was also her age and whom she was actively dating?
How tf could anyone say that he's NOT a pedophile? Guy assaults minors, admits to it, admits to being attracted to them, and is somehow NOT one? Wtf?
Cause it's Pedowood.
She was having sex, why was the boyfriend not arrested for rape?
It was the 1970s. Today Polanksi's career would be over before it got off the ground.
@@squamish4244 I wish I could remotely believe that. This channel bears all too much evidence to the contrary.
@@squamish4244 I disagree there are so many monsters out there.
It’s nice to see a true crime channel take care in how it handles the subject. This was very respectful and I appreciate that. I also appreciate that you didn’t attempt to conceal your bias and simply called Roman what he is, a pedophile and rapist. I learned a lot watching this video, particularly how much the media has minimized Polanski’s crimes. I knew about this case but I didn’t realize how much I didn’t know, and how much of a monster he truly is.
"Her being a thirteen year old FUCKING child stated that she didn't know" love it keep up the good work.
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@@RaeZoladawn777 what is there to question, I would honestly love to know.
@@Leeous_ neither do I now that we know if you ain't exactly he is yuck
Is that why he moved to France where the age was lower? I do feel bad for his childhood. Was that what made him twisted?
@@AS-wj1du He moved to France because France has no extradition treaty with the United States for French citizens.
“Two weeks short of fourteen”, he can say whatever he want about the age being “normal” but him trying to age her up with this seemingly innocent sentence shows that he knows, deep down, its wrong. He is trying to con the world so deep he convinced himself that what he does is normal. What a vicious sentence, i am disgusted
He talked about the photo series of young girls he was taking like they were art, when in truth he was producing child pornography. What a pig.
I caught that too! I expected dreading to point it out but it's pretty damning to let Polanski talk, & dreading pointed out many instances of RP eliding or minimizing the ages throughout the video, so I feel like they primed us properly to notice when he does it there.
well if true she was pretty much 14 . 2 weeks before my birthday i dont say im 20 still. i say ill be 21 in a few weeks, not saying that ok
@@tankthearc9875 Thats weird
@@solemn2854 the guy is still a perv dont get me wrong .
A vile, monstrous man that should be behind bars. This is the kinda man that Hollywood stands behind, even gave a standing ovation. Disgusting
Yep and even Johnny Depp defends him. Why?
Unfortunately not much has changed. There’s still so many predators out there who are protected so strongly from so many. I truly hope things may change someday and people can be held accountable rather than continuing their abuse.
Hollywood is full of pedophiles. Many of the child stars have come forward about this.
I find there was a lot of overlap with that pig Weinstein. He abuses and rapes countless girls and women and it all goes completely unchecked. Hollywood is a cesspit.
@@adaswedentr Where does Depp defend him? I'm even deluded by Angelica Houston now, she really watched a 13 year old drink alcohol and leaves her alone with a grown up man :( I suppose it was already known what he was capable of?!
I think this is the first time I've heard the story in detail. I am surprised to hear how much she actually stood up for herself. Good for her!!! Unfortunately, this didn't stop him, but she was strong. Had she not stood up for herself, it would be no less reprehensible. If this is anywhere near true, Roman is both a predator and a coward.
what if it isn't?
Never ask:
-A woman her age
-A man his salary
-Your favourite film directors what petition they signed in 2008
Not Gulliermo del Toro and Gael Garcia Bernal, ugh so disappointing!
@@Tavera12 I had no idea they'd done that and went to check for more info, and the article I found says that Harvey Weinstein wanted to start a similar petition in the US 🤢🤢🤢
Shit, hadn't gotten to the part of the video where he explicitly said that when I wrote this ^^;
Glad to know my favorite director (Nolan) didn't sign that shit.
Wes Anderson, David Lynch, Wong Kar-wai :(
It's absolutely disgusting how many french politicians, intellectuals and artists took Polanski's defense.
Americans too, in Hollywood
Because most of them are guilty of the same thing. There's no innocence in Hollywood: none!🤬
@@topologyrobas well as some brits, Mexicans and Italians
@@jackhamilton9604 yep
Get over it
Things are done differently over there.
Predators don't stop being predators. He's a perfect example.
If predators can't stop being predators, then that would mean that it isn't a choice for them. Which would mean that you can't hold them morally responsible for what they do, or that they're in control of their own actions.
We all have free will. By saying people like him don't have the ability to stop, you also abdicate them of agency in their crimes.
@@autastic1 I said "don't" not "can't". Huge difference. And the ones that do stop generally do because they've tired of consequences. Rarely do they internalize that some actions are simply wrong, or they do but still don't care because said action is enjoyable for them.
@@suegeew9727 So, yes, some predators do stop. But now, you're saying they have little agency in how they feel. If they are so drastically easy to predetermine, what agency do they have to make the right choices?
@@autastic1 tell me how you conceptualize this. You clearly understand this better than I do. I'm curious and open to your insight.
@@suegeew9727facts he’s clearly a predator
Having read Lolita by Nabokov and the Real Lolita(Sally Horner) by Sarah Weinman( which IMO helps to clarify a lot of what Nabokov was trying to convey to his readers, which by the sounds of it 99.9% of readers missed it, Lolita was Dolores who was called Lolita by her kidnapper and abuser, she was not a precocious teen, she was abducted and abused like Sally Horner who Nabokov even references in his book Lolita). So it makes me really annoyed when people use this name "Lolita" to describe a little girl without realising what they are actually quoting, both teens, factual and fictional died before they were 18 and had their childhoods taken away from them by predatory men. Nabokov I believe never intended to portray Delores or Lolita as any other than an innocent who was taken advantage of and paid the price for another person's crime.
I’m stunned and disappointed to learn that Anjelica Houston allegedly left this 13 year old girl alone with a grown man (Roman) who was practically a stranger to the child.
Exactly my thoughts. If it was an "open secret" that he liked children, why else would he be giving her alcohol? She knew, and she did nothing. So disappointed.
It's Hollywood where everyone looks tje other way in exchange for fame. Sort of selling your soul to the devil in a way. Im not surprised at all
@@aliceinanderland Huston is a disgusting H-A-G Filthy witch.
Shame on Angelica Houston. This kind of predatory behavior from high level men would usually never work unless there were also high level women aiding in keeping the secret.
@@HealingMedicyn The way Oprah and Meryl Streep enabled Harvey W?
What's unambiguously evil is praising Roman Polanski like all those degenerate monsters in Hollywood who know what he did and still give him their applause.
I wouldn't praise him specifically, but some of his movies are still good
Because so many of the “Hollywood elites” are also pedophiles
Those monsters live everywhere even your own towns and pulpits. They're celebrated everywhere. But when the monster is someone you know, suddenly the victims are framed as vindictive lolitas.
Nothing has changed. Hashtag Johnny Depp. People are just mad Amber blew Hollywood's poorest kept secret.
@@inyrui the moment I was thinking of was the jaw dropping standing ovation he was given when Harrison Ford announced he'd won an award. It wasn't even that long ago. All those people knew what he did.
Regardless of the quality of his movies. He doesn't deserve any accolades for them.
Teenage girls: exist
Gross old men: oh you’re so flirty and deviant ~~~
@annie mk Truth!
he was not old
@@clivebaxter6354 13 and 44? Come on that's old af
@@clivebaxter6354 He was old, stop being a delusional dickrider.
Roman claiming that Sharon’s brutal death changed him is utter BS and a case of ego-stroking. Enduring tragedy is no excuse to inflict it upon others. He didn’t grieve Sharon but rather regretted he no longer had a compliant partner by his side
One point: in that interview, Clive James, a brilliant Australian man, was expertly leading Polanski into the hole he’d dug for himself. He gave Polanski the rope, and the hole was right there…and Polanski fell right in it. Respect for Clive, he was a masterful revealer.
I loved Clive James. His travel shows on TV were so entertaining. He was a cool guy and very witty.
Clive was a brilliant interviewer. His work is very missed.
I was thinking the same. It was clear how much disgust he had for the man
@@papl20 yeah I think dreading didn't realize if he condemned him super hard he wouldve just ended the interview. He had to give him said rope & plied him with food & drink just like he did to young girls
I loved the way you spoke about Sharon Tate...people forget she was a human being with feelings not a beautiful statue 💞
She just showed very poor taste and judgement when she broke an engagement with Jay Sebring to run off with Polanski.
@@evancoker194 Jay stilled loved Sharon. He was her rock as she was close to giving birth. Sharon had deservedly been upset that Roman made lame excuses for not being by her side. POS! 2
@@msw8839 Sharon deserved better in her life, that's for damned sure.
@@TaliaIGhul She really did! Such a terrible loss. I think Polansky probably used her death for sympathy f__s. What a POS!
Polanski was horrible to Sharon. Cheated on her, and emotionally and verbally abused her. I hate it when people champion that marriage. She deserved better in life and in love. Jay Sebring was the one who was there for her and died protecting her.
Truly refreshing to hear you state so emphatically that it doesn’t matter if the girls flirted with him, even, that his age and their age make it a crime.
@Englishteacher666 exactly, a normal adult being hit on/flirted with by a minor would immediately shut that and/or remove themself from the situation. Kids crush on adults, it’s totally normal, it’s not normal or okay for an adult to reciprocate those feelings and it’s disgusting that he tried to use that defence
@@19joey It is very disgusting. Unfortunately it worked.
i’d like to encourage everyone to look up the list of celebrities who signed the Polanski petition. there were some that really hurt my heart but im glad i know now
I admire the courage of everyone who signed it. Standing against that ocean of hatred and calumny is something you just have to admire.
@@sebastianwapniarski2077yeah defending child rapists is a real brave move 🙄 stfu and go away
@@sebastianwapniarski2077 are you misunderstanding what the polanksi petition is or are you somehow so depraved and stupid that you’re praising those who signed a document defending an admitted child rapist (who was blacklisted for RAPING CHILDREN HOLY FUCK) and asking that he be allowed to go back to work subliminally influencing the minds of those all across the world with his horrible child rapey ways? bc if it’s the last one i’d like to know the names and dates of the children you raped and possibly murdered so i can inform the police. thx
@@sebastianwapniarski2077 are you misunderstanding what the polanksi petition is or are you somehow so depraved and stupid that you’re praising those who signed a document defending an admitted child rapist (who was blacklisted for RAPING CHILDREN HOLY FUCK) and asking that he be allowed to go back to work subliminally influencing the minds of those all across the world with his horrible child rapey ways? bc if it’s the last one i’d like to know the names and dates of the children you raped and possibly murdered so i can inform the police. thx
@@sebastianwapniarski2077 are you misunderstanding what the polanksi petition is or are you somehow so depraved and stupid that you’re praising those who signed a document defending an admitted child rapist (who was blacklisted for RAPING CHILDREN HOLY FUCK) and asking that he be allowed to go back to work subliminally influencing the minds of those all across the world with his horrible child rapey ways? bc if it’s the last one i’d like to know the names and dates of the children you raped and possibly murdered so i can inform the police. thx
Poor Sam! Imagine being so battered by the press that she, decades later as an adult, is now downplaying what happened to her. Polanski, the press and the judge who got his ego bruised should all be ashamed of themselves!!
She's been milking it ever since
@@clivebaxter6354 her life has been destroyed. Not only by the assault and the character assassination of a child, but by the media and others who have been constantly hounding her since it happened. Why shouldn't she make some money out of it? The actual perpetrator of the crime has completely gotten away with it and has continued making money and being feted by Hollywood, I really don't blame her for wanting to extract some form of compensation for everything she has gone through.
@@cezra833 ALL OF THIS!
@@clivebaxter6354 She’s been “milking it” ever since being molested? What a disgusting thing to say, are you for real?
What’s the time limit on how long she’s allowed to tell her story about being r*ped as a child? I’m just curious since she’s apparently “milking it” 😒
@@jayl0v3ly over 40 years ago time to move on I would think, many had worse
I read a bit more about the SA itself - Sam was crying and begging Polanski in between the nonconsensual acts to stop and he ignored her. What hits me about hearing someone begging Polanski not to hurt her is that Sharon Tate spent the tragic final part of her life begging the Manson murderer not to kill her and then trying to bargain for her to stay captive instead of killing her, just until her baby was born and then they could kill Sharon but just let her son or daughter have a chance of life.
How can someone hear of their own spouse pleading and begging not to be hurt at the end of their life yet being shown no mercy and then abuse another human and show no mercy if they begged for it?!
I take your point but Roman wasn't home when Tate was murdered.
He doesn't put himself in the same category. He is in denial.
His poor tortured to death beautiful wife garnered him initial sympathy when he was first reported.
@@jimbeans2466 no but he would have heard the details of what happened
Yeah , Polanski was a real true predator ... he wanted what he wanted and didn't care if it hurt others .
Cold hearted . Oddly enough he has daughters now from his 3rd marriage and I wonder if he ever thinks about how he would feel if somebody did to his own girls what he had done to others' daughters ?
I think that the fact that Roman Polanski's eight month pregnant wife was brutally murdered, along with some friends and associates, played a crucial role in having an awful lot of prominate people in the entertainment industry feeling sorry for him mitigating his sexual crime in the late 1970s. I remember when his wife was killed and it sent shock waves through North America.
Polanski forced her to return to the United States ALONE because she wanted to have the baby delivered by her doctor in the States. He was laying the groundwork for an alibi, and Manson was the patsy.
Why is no one mentioning that Angelica Houston left Polanski alone in her home with a child when I am certain she would have known his reputation? Doesn't that make her somewhat complicit in the crime. Of course, Roman is the one who committed this terrible crime and still needs to pay.
I was thinking the same thing. All these people in those circles are fucking pieces of shit and no very well EXACTLY what is happening with these predators. They simply don't give a shit. Angelica Houston should be fucking ashamed. She should be charged with endangerment of a minor.
I absolutely think she had knowledge of what was going on. She has made many suspicious comments over the years.
Agreed if you add Jack Nicholson too.
This was new info to me. I've always loved AH and I'm so grossed out now :-(
Yes, agree AH could be viewed as complicit, at least morally, if not legally. (JN too)
What is so sad is that Samantha is so adamant about "not being a victim" and suffering "no lasting affects" but it's clear from the way that she speaks, that she has internalized the normalization of what happened to her. She Trauma bonded to her abuser. It is incredibly clear that there was a lasting impact on her psyche.
Stop speaking for her she can think for herself and has...
@@tonyca6943 this is a woman who was raped as a child, then was attacked by the media and grew up listening to the child rapist be defended, who now defends and expresses a feeling of connection/solidarity with the man who raped her as a child... It's pretty clear signs of having developed a trauma bond.
@@tonyca6943 ew.
@@tonyca6943exactly
@@tonyca6943at least learn how to use elipses asshole
In the movie HARD CANDY, Elliot Page has a line that i didnt understand until my mom gasped.
They say something like "& Roman Polanski just won an oscar" after the guy pleads that he isnt a child predator.
That's a bloody good film.
love that movie
@@ultimatepleb9143
yeah but elliot page isn’t a great person
she pretends to be a boy while she’s actually a girl
bro that’s downright weird in a bad way
@@donnieraczynski572 I don’t like Elliot but is he hurting anyone? NO! Don’t compare him to rapists/abusers/ pedos. He is actually helping others who feel the same way but are afraid of being judged by people like u!! Just because you find something weird doesn’t make it bad. By the way your comment comes off you sound young so I hope you can change your views and learn to be accepting of all people who are doing no harm to others. If you are actually an adult please stop taking the Bible literally. Nothing is wrong with wanting to live your best life without the judgement of the imaginary man in the sky. Santa is used to make children behave better one month out of the year. Guess what all those rules I’m the Bible r for! I’m all for religion but not for using it to condemn people who don’t follow your rules. Be a good person that’s it
Bad for whom? How does it impact you or indeed anyone else?
Rest In Peace, Sharon Tate.
He's a classic example of how being a victim doesn't always mean you're innocent. He was subjected to things that no person should face, but he also did things to people that should never be done.
He was probably a pedophile from the beginning. The time chance or the Universe saved a person who'd everyone I think agreed, would rather be dead.
If you believe the stories of what happened during WW2.
@@haveagocommentator983 do you mean if we believe the stories ROMAN tells are true or in general?
@simonerea6681 A seriously disturbing amount of stories told about Jewish persecution in WWII have been fabricated whole cloth. See Eli Weizel. Total bullshit story that everyone had to read in high school. Only in the past decade has it been exposed as a work of FICTION.
He’s probably lying about that.
I was molested as a child, by a family member. Then raped as a young teen by a older neighbor. I cringe at these people defending their behavior. It scars you for life. PTSD
My ex laughed at me and said the kid seduced him and defended him wholeheartedly. Now he's an ex, and he fkn KNEW I was assaulted at that age too. I hope he fkn burns in hell and the rest of them who defend these monsters.
@@norbeaster420 what a degenerate piece of shit, I hope you're not dating such scum these days
Me too.
Got also screwed over by the gov't a couple of times over for some 4d chess reasons.
It was Clive JAMES that interviewed him in the eighties not JONES. He was a famous UK based Australian chat show host.
It was Clive JAMES that interviewed him in the eighties not JONES. He was a famous UK based Australian chat show host.
Thank you for giving Sharon Tate the respect she deserves! 👏🏻
Why did Sharron have to die? Its insane that the super good, kind hearted had to be killed horrifcally, instead of the horrifically sick man.
horrifically sick people protect each other...
I've never heard such a detailed account about Roman Polanski, and now I know why my dad hates him so much.
Speaks well to your dad's character.
Go dad🙌👌🏼
That speaks well of your Dad.
My dad hates him too. I never truly understood it, but I get it now. If u ever want to know if a person in history is a piece of shit, ask my dad. He'll tell u lol
@@leslieb8614 my dad was exactly the same, especially about my boyfriends and he was always right. Good old dads ! 🙌🙌🙌
If you're wondering why he was so welcome in France, do look up the attempts to abolish age of consent spearheaded by intellectuals like Foucault at around the same time. Thought he'd be among fellow travelers, I imagine.
france is kind of a shitty place. lots of racism and sexual deviancy
Also look up "Queer Theory Pedophilia" by Derrick Jensen. He's a hardcore leftist, btw
@@blacktigerpaw1 leftism is not just one thing, the same as being right wing. He's an anarcho-primitivist, they reject science. If you put him in a room with, say, an intersectional anarcho-communist, while they would both be leftists they would agree on nothing except "capitalism bad". His takes are bad, and he's a bad person. So is Foucault. There are many kinds of bad people and bad people often dislike other bad people. Also two things are often true at once.
@@rdarkstorm8414 I pointed it out because most people would assume criticism of queer theory is right wing.
@@blacktigerpaw1 I think most people would just think criticism of queer theory is outdated and wrong and not really consider it a political thing at all
"I like young women" ...no sir, its children...young women are 18-23
You are a children as long as your parents live. There are 60 years old childrens in the world. She was a teenager.
His victim Sam Gailey:
“I didn’t even know it was illegal, that someone could be arrested for it. I was fine, I’m still fine. The fact that we’ve made this [a big deal] weighs on me terribly. To have to constantly repeat that it wasn’t a big deal, it’s a terrible burden.”
Crazy.
Yeah, I had sympathy until I realized she was a brainless muppet. 🤷♂️
She sentenced many girls in the future to lives of hell with her moronic statement. But I am sure the media hounding her for decades has affected her mental health.
Who's 'she'?
@@intercommerceshe’s the victim in this story.
You can't force someone to feel like a victim. It's her way of dealing and how dare anyone say that it's not Ok.
Dreading, you are slowly but surely becoming my new favorite true crime channel. Thank you for the time you spend on making these videos and your consistent posting of accurate content.
Try Matt orchard (crime and society). You’ll like him!
Dreading, Matt Orchard and the recent EWU videos are taking this category to the next level
@@clenchedfistsyndrome1439 yeah, he's my favorite and I think he's surpassed JCS at this point, but he hasn't come out with a video in a bit.
I feel really sick about this pedo.
How is it possible that this pedo still can do what he wants.
Every other guy would be put in prison.
When he is death than years later people will say O this was soooo wrong. Now they shut their mouths for what reason they find.
They all are part of the abuse.
If their kids are violated than the war breaks out. The kids are not theirs so what. Thats the mentallity many people have in a mix of situations.
The hypocricy in this world is startling.
Netherlands
Just look the other way of it suits.
I agree OP Pink Aurianna!!!
The fact there are people in the comments on the original Polanski interview saying he was "charming" and "had a point" both horrifies and disgusts me. And also makes me wonder about their own sexual "proclivities"...
exactly
I hope the users that made those comments are on a watch list right now.
What tf do people see in him that's charming? Dude isn't particularly well spoken or kind or even interesting. He's a boring child molester and it's frankly repulsive how comfortable everyone is with him.
Uff, disgusting Evil rat..
yo, anyone who sides with delusional fucks like this are delusional fucks themselves
When you're 16 or 17 you're a minor. When you're 13, you're a freaking CHILD!!! Children don't like to behave like children around adult celebrities who promise them the future that they - naive as most children are - believe that they want. You can't sexually abuse a child that says that she's had sex before?! Give me a break!
Being a child means you are pre-puberty, that is approximatelly 10-14 years in girls and 12-16 years in boys. After your puberty you are not a child anymore. If she had sexual relationship before she is more than likely post-puberty. She wasn't a child.
You trying to change facts. Why? Don't you see SA is a crime itself? What kind of person you are? If you doing SA it means you breaking the law and you should serve time. And if you doing SA against a child you should spend your whole life in prison.
@@Zodroo_Tint your trying to tell us 10-14 isn’t a child? What’s wrong with you?
@@Zodroo_Tint That's wrong, though. Before puberty BEGINS you're PRE-pubescent. If by your own definition you define a child by being in puberty, then 14 for girls is still a child because you're still in puberty. Puberty isn't something that happens in a day or even a year, it happens throughout adolescence.
@@Zodroo_Tint bro you’re either a troll or a severely socially damaged individual. help yourself
@@Zodroo_Tint Hmm. That was one long way of saying I'm ok with sexual assault of minors lol.
I can’t separate the art from the artist.
Many thanks for this excellent intelligent work.
Definitely not in this case
“Cuddliness” God that is sad. So blatantly innocent and young.
I did a lot of research on the Manson murders and I really wish he were home and Tate was away on business.
I have exactly the same thoughts. It should have been him, not her.
Did you ever look into the idea that Sharon was a blood sacrifice that Roman had set up? It's eerily similar to his movie Rosemary's Baby where the actor husband sacrifices his wife to deliver the anti-christ for his s@anic neighbours
Of course while Sharon was getting murdered Polanski was in London having yet another affair.
@@riccali3519 If Manson was MK/ULTRA, as many claim, I'm sure Polansky was Told not to be there that day.....
Agreed. But it needs to be added that it’s a shame THEY were there. All those people. The worst part is that they were there and he wasn’t.
And Hollywood, at the Academy Awards, gave this man a standing ovation.
With all the corruption and other pedos in the business is it really a surprise ?
Of course. It's Hollywood. It figures.
All credit to Ricky Gervais who crucified Hollywood at very uncomfortable Golden Globes in 2020
They give a mass murderer "Bibi Netanyahu " multiple standing ovations in Congress, so why not give this vile child rapist a standing ovation in Hollywood ! When Jews commit crimes against us gentile people, they do not consider it to be criminal, just following the Torah !
@@evancoker194 and wno controls Hollywood ! The same group who feature in all of these vile disgusting child rape cases. Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Gizell Maxwell etc.
Something is so frustrating about his story. How does one reconcile his actions with the horrors he witnessed and experienced in his life? I feel terribly for his childhood and for the loss of his wife. Nobody should experience that. But his monstrous actions, the lack of justice for those crimes, his cowardly retreat and his continued success are sickening.
you can feel sympathy and still not root for the person. look at him as a coward and asshole who went thru a lot but also caused harm to so many. you dont have to feel frustrated just because a criminal had a hard life.
this is one of the comments I come across a lot on videos of criminals who had a hard life and/or became unhinged because of said hard times.
trigger warning for sa
my grandmother molested me, my cousin also molested me when we were around 10yos. I personally know that both of them have had terrible childhoods and my cousin still suffers from substance abuse and abuse from parental figures. but Ive learned to remind myself of all of these truths without letting it turn into me possible thinking of of they deserved the hard times or if this is causation or karma.
you can do better. this is very imp and necessary for people to understand that just because a criminal/ abuser had a bad life and even if that caused them to hurt others, its still not an excuse or reason to hold back on their punishment/ backlash they should face.
Im sorry, I understand what you mean but personally I just feel upset. Im sorry if I misunderstood smt and/or overreacted.
You can feel bad for the child Roman, innocent and victimized worse than most of us can imagine, while simultaneously holding the adult Polanski in absolute contempt for his actions. Hell breeds monsters.
@@Dancingonthesun by your logic, everyone who suffered thru massive attrocities like holocaust would have become a monster. yes, a lot of abused/ victims of huge tragedies end up doing fucked up shit but a lot of those are not going out of the way to hurt others and are trying and/or succeeding in living a relatively normal life. his childhood is fucked up but its not a causation for what he did and he shouldnt be given any kind of excuse.
Everything about Sharon Tate was beautiful. She was absolutely perfect. I wasn't even alive then but its obvious she was special.
I’m glad the interviewer let him speak his mind freely it gives us great insight into his depravity
“Everyone should know by now that Roman has served his sentence,” Samatha Geimer said. “From my side, nobody wanted him to go to jail, but he did and it was enough. He paid his debt to society.” she said. “Anyone who thinks that he deserves to be in prison is wrong.”
“Let me be very clear: what happened with Polanski was never a big problem for me,” Geimer told Seigner of the March 1 attack, which happened during a photo shoot at Jack Nicholson’s house.
“I didn’t even know it was illegal, that someone could be arrested for it. I was fine, I’m still fine,” she maintained, despite previously suing him for intentional infliction of emotional distress for the assault.
“The fact that we’ve made this [a big deal] weighs on me terribly,” she said, according to a translation by IndieWire.
“To have to constantly repeat that it wasn’t a big deal, it’s a terrible burden.”
@@oppothumbs1 What's your point SA apologist?
@@crapversereturn5800 Just saying what his victim said. Not saying Roman shouldn't have served more time.
The fact that this man has won an award as recent as 2002 and still making movies as recent as 2019 is absolutely repulsive. Him and pretty much anyone willing to work with him since this case became public shouldve been black balled ages ago. Before watching this video I knew the name and vaguely what he did but didnt really know his works. Im a huge horror buff and have yet to see rosemary's baby. It's been on my list forever but I don't think I can ever watch it now
And yet Will Smith gets 10 year ban and blackballed in Hollywood. He shouldn't have done what he did, but when they're out here awarding child predators who flee from justice, they don't have ground to stand on and judge.
Rosemary's Baby is still a fantastic film - read the book first and I'm sure that will convince you - Ruth Gordon is fantastic in it.
Rosemary’s Baby is still an amazing film, and Chinatown is a masterpiece. These films are not self-indulgent, nor do they directly reflect on the values of Roman Polanski.
But then again, I refuse to watch The Pianist or any of the movies he made after being convicted because I cannot comprehend anyone wanting to work with him KNOWING what the fuck he did.
I remembered renting MacBeth from Blockbuster as a kid (I was probably about 13 or 14 myself) in the late 80s, because for some reason I was on a foreign movie kick and that was in the foreign/no rating section. I did recognize the name, but of course I didn't know anything about him other than he was a famous director. I also watched Rosemary's Baby with my mother. I don't think she knew about what he did because I can't imagine she would have wanted to watch anything by him, let alone with me who was a teen at the time. I learned about what he did when I was older, felt repulsed and since then won't watch any of his movies.
He is a genius,the greatest living director. His art ,and his movie meanings have nothing to do with is life.
It’s really too bad that Sharon was home instead of Roman that fateful night
Do you ever get the feeling he knew something was up and Sharon was a ritual sacrifice?
This is a nice thing to say. I agree, it's too bad that Polanski wasn't in the house
the night of the murders, instead of Sharon.
Roman was in Europe having sex with Michelle Phillips that night. Scum bag life style. All of them.
@@FFGG22E- Sacrifice for what exactly?
@FFGG22E definitely. Helter skelter was planned. Charles Manson was their fall guy. Roman's behavior after her death was suspicious
What you said about Sharon was spot on and I absolutely applaud you for what you said about her. You have to wonder if she had lived what she would have blossomed into. That's what makes her case so absolutely haunting and extremely hard to accept. One has to wonder How could someone so beautiful inside and out suffer from such a horrific fate? How could someone take that life away from her?
“After a year of tremendous struggle and hardship”…. He’s pure filth. What about the lifelong damage he caused his young victims?!! He is so obviously, thinks he is, or should be, above the law.
Freaks like him feel entitled to say the least. He is a narcissist.
He’s a typical Jew.
@@user-os6ch5pt7w U're a typical prick.
I was always bothered that Polanski and Allen didn't get as much coverage as other predators. That's why I'm thankful that you covered Polanski here. I made the mistake and read the transcript of his victim's statement. This stuff haunted me for a long time and still can't believe that he got awards and praise afterwards. It's not like he would have done some time behind bars and you could say:"Look, he is a changed man now! He is rehabilitated and deserves a second chance."
Yes, he is a brilliant artist who made astounding movies but he shouldn't have gotten away with this disturbing crime.
I hope dreading covers peddy allen too
how do you feel about how Sammantha has "forgiven" him and dosen't want him punished?
@@jackhamilton9604 it's her right to think so and I wouldn't judge that in any way.
Both Jews too
It’s ironic that Mia Farrow starred in Rosemary’s Baby. Great film cinematically, but creepy story. Ronan Farrow, her son, reported on sexual predators in Hollywood. Wild
THANK YOU for speaking on Sharon’s kindness first and foremost
Thank you for covering this. You did a great job.
nobody is putting out as consistent, high-quality content in the criminal psych field on YT as dreading right now
I like him more than jcs people praise them but you can only go so far with interrogation footage. This is well researched well narrated content and it’s always quality.
Dave’s lemonade is incredible 👌🏼
I was LITERALLY about to comment this- by far the best most thorough and unbiased true crime fact channel lately.
Period!
dr grande is good
This man got a standing ovation at the Oscars years later everyone in attendance were aware of what he had done
Harvey Weinstein also got plenty of praise at the Oscars.
Was this when Ricky Gervais called them all out? I highly commend him for that.
@@ciaraskeleton. I thought Gervais was great.
@Paul Voorhies his morals are steadfast, he stands by whatever he believes whether people are pissed or not. Admirable trait.
If we are always to believe the victims, then three of the last four presidents are rapists: Clinton, Trump, and Biden were all accused of rape. Do we believe their accusers? Biden was accused of a heinous rape, though most of the press has ignored this. So, why do we hate Polanski but not Biden? Neither has been convicted of a crime. What criteria do we use to judge accused predators who haven't been convicted of anything?
When I was a young girl, I had many experiences of men trying to "take advantage". I was tall and was always mistaken for being much much older than I really was.
But this was not always the case, and is definitely not an excuse for predatory behavior.
I was not always successful at escaping them, but as a child I didn't have the skills or the understanding of what was really happening.
As a teenager, I remember one time a friend of a friend was wanting, or expecting to have sex with me at the end of the night. I said no, and he proceeded to try to "work out" why I didn't want to have sex with him, why I was saying no. He asked me if I was gay, if I had my period and each time I would again state that I just didn't want to have sex. Then, after a break in this conversation he asked triumphantly "Ooooooh, do you have an STD/STI?".
I will never forget that night, he could not believe that someone just didn't want to have sex - especially with him, so OBVIOUSLY there had to be another reason.
An STD ffs, yeah, that's what it was man, Jesus Christ.
No, I did not have an sti.
Years later I thought that that might have been a good thing to say in an uncomfortable situation with any older man trying to get what he wanted.
I think that almost every woman would have a story/s about being preyed upon, especially when they were younger. I don't know if things have changed since I was young, I hope so, but sadly I doubt it.
@secretsquirrel My best friend’s boyfriend cornered me in a bathroom when I was 14 to tell me how he only went out with her to get to me, as if I’d want his ugly ass and then *especially* after saying such a disrespectful thing about my friend. When I was nonplussed, he told me, “I could rape you right here and now,” and I just pushed my way past him, surprising him, I think. Turned out he had just SA’d her a week before while a group of us were in the next room, not knowing it was happening, and she didn’t say anything because she wanted to have a boyfriend. I was so angry when she told me later what he actually did to her, and I felt so helpless. In this case, the boy was only a year older, but that was far from the only time someone threatened to SA me or actually did it to one of my friends. I had two stalkers at that time in my life, one in his late 20’s and one in his 40’s. I guess I was supposed to feel complimented, but instead I was afraid and angry.
It hasn't unfortunately
I think he actually was just trying to make you feel like you were being a weirdo for saying no. He wasn't surprised you were saying "no." He didn't think you were a lesbian or that you had an STD. He was just trying to give a young person a head trip and get you to do it to prove you were "normal".
Lol "a story," like it wouldn't take hours to fully catalogue.
Him saying that he ‘thinks most men like underage girls’ is disgusting.
After listening to her account of what he did my rage kept building up knowing that Hollywood kept protecting him after he fled prosecution and even gave him a standing ovation when they gave him an Oscar for the Pianist. Vile.
I don’t think he missed a beat or cared when Sharon died. I think he used it as a reason to be how he already was.
why would he? she was just an easy lay. her fault.
like his holocaust survival?
@chandllerburse737 i hate dogs
While Sharon was being murdered and Jay trying to save her, Polanski was in London in
yet another affair.
Unfortunately, many young women pursue disgusting men like Polanski to advance in their careers. She didn't love Polanski, so his affairs are irrelevant in this case. What happened to her and Jay is horrific but I'm not for a second believe that she wasn't romantically involved with Jay.
She paid the joooo toll.
& having his alibi ready.
The Manson Family always needed money. Polanski liked having the freedom of fooling around with many young girls. He doesn't seem
the type that would want to be tied down to an adult woman who was pregnant with his child. Then he happens to be out of town when Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson Family. Then he is fully unburdened. Why wasn't this explored? Why did so many turn a blind eye to everything? Hollyweird is a satanic swamp that needs to drop into the Pacific. What a piece of shit as well as all the people that supported him.
@@Ishbikesyes I agree this man belongs in jail. Money helps people.
Thank u for calling this what it is. Women around the world appreciate and recognize the support you have brought to this subject. Keep up the wonderful work. ❤
ugh, the way she refered to it as "cuddliness" broke my heart.
Even if you don't like the film, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Margo Robbie's portrayal of Sharon Tate was one of the best portrayals I've seen. The whole movie highlights how beautiful she was on the inside. How much love she had to share, how she just couldn't help but care for people. The alternate ending to the story of her death made me cry because we all wish that happened, and not the reality.
Sharon Tate was a kind, sweet soul and never deserved to be married to such a horrible person, or to come to an end the way she did.
Fuck Roman Polanski
Who the fuck cares in this conversation you Muppet
I didn't even know there was a alternative ending for once apon a time in Hollywood?
I believe they mean the ending of the movie being alternate to what truly happened to Sharon Tate in reality.
anyone who doesnt like oUATIH doesnt understand genius.
What a deranged person.
Was not the Holocaust who make him a monster he was born a monster.
Never forget Roman Polanski received a standing ovation in 2002 for the pianist.
Never forget the first 11 US Presidents owned Sex Slaves....lmmfao
I didn’t know anything about his past at that point. In hindsight, I recall Harrison Ford’s reaction to the cheers as he stood on the stage, making the announcement.
@@smoothALOE ignorance is bliss
@@IFearWork right.
The Pianist was a great movie, but Polanski is a monster
What Ive often questioned,is how does Debra Tate continue to uphold this pedophile? Ive also wondered what exactly Sharon Tate saw in this person because from things that Ive read,he didnt exactly treat her with much respect.
The fact that there are so many people who still defend him to this day makes my skin crawl, they need to be investigated too.
Nobody has survived a nazi dictator and a hippie cult like Roman Polanski
If you want to finish what Adolf Hitler and Charles Manson didn't go ahead
Yup.
So many "Jewish " people !
They are called enablers, flying monkeys, narcissists need them.
He’s indefensible. He’s made some great films though.
The past,the Holocaust, poverty, nothing is an excuse for a monster. My grandparents,my father, my aunt and their families lived horrors of war,famen,comunist prison. They were the most beautiful souls I ve ever met. Genes, education, character make the difference.
But Polanski’s mother died. Big problem.
Dead Mother is a credit card for rape? Preposterous.
if they ended up in a communist prison then that raises eyebrows
Thank you Dreading for this profile on Polanski. Never forget Myerl Streep gave this revolting monster a standing ovation.
And called that fat ugly imprisoned monster…..GOD. Makes me sick
meryl streep was also buddies with weinstein. hollywood cant be trusted .
Didn’t she call Weinstein, god?
@@atis9061
I'm not sure but I wouldn't doubt it if she did.
@@katedave2019 she said it in her acceptance speech, unbelievable!
This video took a long time for me to get through - as the father of a young girl, I had to shut it off several times. There's no doubt Polanski is a talented filmmaker who's suffered his own tragedies, but there's no excuse; the man deserves to be behind bars.
I'm reminded of what Monica Lewinsky went through in hearing how this 13 year was portrayed by the media as a sexual predator.
I know the 70s was a different time - I experienced them as a child - but these horrific fantasies of "consent" propagated by Polanski and his pals is batsh!t insane.
I mean Lewinsky was an adult. But yeah.
Her Ted Talk was the most enlightening insight…..changed my view completely. Huge respect for what she came through
It was never "the private lives of adults are protected under the constitution as our right to privacy" It was never "Such gossip is irrelevant to matters of state" it was "i did not have sex with that woman". When you drill into that, the scandal gets WORSE. Instead of defending privacy, something that would be removed less than a decade later by the Patriot Act, he lied. He threw an intern and a subordinate under the bus to protect himself. Yet he still get's praise for being such a "good" president, despite making the honor act that created the student loan crisis, terrible middle east policy that created the war on terror, gutting taxes and shrinking the government.
@@naughtyhieroglyph669 And as outlined in "13th", continuing the 'war' on drugs which saw millions of black men imprisoned to satisfy the prison-industrial complex. A truly terrible president, a truly terrible man.
@@DMR1010 She was literally bullied and gaslit by the entire world. Like you, I have nothing but respect for the incredible strength she has.
I'd generally avoided the specifics of his case before now. Knowing that he victimised such young people was enough for me. I definitely feel like I did a disservice to the victims by not learning more. The Quaaludes, the alcohol, the enabling. It makes me sick.
What I find interesting is that Harvey sent out a petition for a pardon for Polanski, he had nothing but support. but as soon as it became fashionable and okay to shit on Weinstein, everyone did so.
So why is Polanski still respected? Why does he not have the same reaction?
You don't think he pressured people, like he tended to do.
The Clive James interview is very interesting - never seen it before. Thanks for filling in the real reason why he fled.
Angelica Huston bears some responsibility here too; as does her mother for allowing them to be alone together.
Right? Like, you just saw this man give a 13 year old *child* alcohol and you just... take off? Then come back hours later and the kid's still there and you're just like 'oh, okay.'?
😫
Pretty sure she even signed that 2009 petition calling for his freedom. Interesting
@Jack yes, that is possible in cases where the female is not in direct correlation to the crime that was committed. Like let’s say the a young mom leaves her child with her boyfriend of 9 months, and the baby is severely injured by the boyfriend. You will have people who jump right to blaming the mom and saying that she “should’ve known better” though she had NO indications he would do it. That would be a scenario where “female culpability” was used to diminish the man’s actions. Here we have the case of another ADULT, regardless of gender, who failed to protect a child. It could’ve easily been Jack Nicholson, and if it had been, we would be saying the same thing about him. I honestly don’t think a single person wouldn’t be in the comment section saying the exact same thing about the responsibility factor. Angelica saw a person who was known in social circles to be inappropriate with young girls, and saw him give a child alcohol. Then was just like “bye ✌️”. Seriously? Don’t waste your energy here. Go to the comments of the videos where women are ACTUALLY being criticized over men who have committed heinous crimes.
@Jack your comment is stupid it’s laughable. 💀 the fact that someone has to EXPLAIN to you how stupid your comment is so funny.