What if ture died protecting the miraidon because he knew that it was the miraidon he saw, and so he knew that he had to protect it to protect the timeline from collapsing.
I was waiting for ttar's reaction to this What he didn't realize was that we gave the professor the info they needed to make the time machine. WE made them succeed. WE realized their dream. ...we essentially also killed them.
wrong, the player also took the purple book, meaning no more book in the past, meaning no information of the paradoxes, meaning no key to the time machine, meaning no book for arven to read, meaning no herba mystica for mabosstiff, meaning no miraidon upgrades, meaning not flying to area zero, meaning nothing happening this is one of the worst and biggest plotholes in all of pokemon
@@gatex33d74 still, that doesn't change anything. There are several copies of the book out there. Who said Arven's book was actually the original Scarlet/Violet book?
This one cutscene is one of the best parts of this entire game. They set up an entire timeloop. We give him the Briar book which may have helped him find Terapagos. But we only went down there because of what Sada/Turo found. They met us before they even made the time machine. And they give us the Scarlet and Violet books, but those are the keys they used for the time machine which they have yet to build. The time loop paradox set up is insane
That's the one part that doesn't seem to make sense. Everything else we do ENABLES the events of (our) past to occur, but we also take the book, which would PREVENT them from occurring. It's pretty clear it's not just another copy the professor gives us, it's signed and even described as precious… So shouldn't there be another cutscene in which the book somehow travels back to the past before the time machine activates? Also, Arven's reaction to us talking to him after this cutscene is just noticing the book and saying "oh, did you take it from the library?" and that's pathetic. I know getting him involved might be opening old wounds and he's essentially learned to move on now, but still…
The thing is: he had already met Terapagos in this cutscene. Remember his report of this very encounter, that we found on the Underdepths? He said that it happened when he was inspecting the Treasure's power (or similar words). So both the Terapagos that was with Turo and our Terapagos did the time breaking stuff at the same time, making this conversation happen. This is all insane and I love it.
@@ewormXD Or he got a new "copy" after this. Wait, *why would give HIMSELF an autograph?* I mean, was his signing it suppose to prove it was one-of-a-kind?
Yea so for anyone wondering about how the Cutscene works: Terapagos and Sada/Turo’s time Machine somehow warped Space Time. This transported the REAL Professor to our time. But then our encounter inspires them to create the AI, the Time Machine, and all of the events of the rest of the story. This occurrence is a phenomenon known as a Bootstrap Predestination Paradox. U travel to the past, inspire future events to occur, and certain inventions and events (the Time Machine, the AI, etc) were ALWAYS destined to happen, or certain items were always meant to exist, and essentially were created ex nihilo, as u bring it to the past, which inspires its creation later in history, so u can bring it to the past and then the cycle continues. A better example of this is in Pokemon The Movie 4-Ever, with Celebi and Professor Oak. Ash shows Oak a Modern Day Pokeball and the Electronic Pokedex, which inspired him to create his own versions, which Ash then got, and showed young Oak, repeating the loop. These paradoxes bend the fabric of reality, and make quantum physicists and time travel theorists question if past events can be altered and if a Multiverse exists.
but how does it work if we now hold the key that sada/turo use in their "time machine"? how could it exist in the past when it was sent directly into the future?
@@maxxus2_ he likely can make a second, based on the info on the briar book. Thats my guess. With going into the past the paradox is easy to explain. When going to the future, thats where it gets tricky.
@@maxxus2_there are multiple copies of the book that exist. The original one is held by briar, an then raven has a copy but the school also has a copy too.
I think one of my favorite details is the fact Keiran will have a unique reaction if you throw out Ogrepon during your first battle with him. I had the thought he would, and was so happy to see it for myself during our battle.
Whole game is a Paradox and based on event at the crystal pool we r the indirect cause of Sada/Turo passing away. We say to Sada/Turo that Koraidon/Miraidon is Precious partner to us.Professors saw Koraidon/Miraidons nature so when in thier timeline 2 same species get hostile it went between them maybe remembering what she/he saw, she/he recognised our Koraidon/Miraidon so he/she tries to protect it.That's why AI couldn't find logic in this action and maybe AI didn't have all memories of Sada/Turo.
40:50 I've got scarlet, and Sada says "From your perspective, I must have come from the past?" She says OUR perspective, while Turo speaks from his own. Also, when the original professor turns around to face you and the music swells? Chills, goosebumps!
I love that they actually play the themes for the Legendaries in their best remixed versions, at least I think so, I don't know about the Kanto Birds, but the Johto Beasts have their HGSS themes as well as Ho-Oh and Lugia's remixes as well, even the ORAS remixes for Weather Trio
That interaction with the professor was hard to watch knowing what it would cause. I hope we get more answers to the mysteries. And of course, GameFreak would give us the options that would tell the professors what they need to know.
They hyped me up to the sky making me feel mad disappointed at the dlc due to lack of content😭😭 I really loved the theories! But ngl the dlc was the great
This is so true. And it's not like Ttar made his theory videos just for YT content, but he's very hyped and passionate about the game and its mysteries and lore. Extremely deeply emotionally invested with it. It got me extremely into it too.
I think what a lot of people miss about the ending cutscene is that the Time Machine doesn't exist yet by the time the Professor converses with you. He says that he's still working on the drafts, likely not even having built anything yet. Therefore, the Violet Book that he gives you at the end of the conversation wouldn't have anything to do with it and wouldn't have an impact on what the machine can do or how it's shut down later on. So once he disappears back to his own time, he can simply get another book and connect THAT one to his new time machine once it has been completed, and it's therefore still be "the professor's copy" that's spoken of as being the key connected to it. He just probably wouldn't talk much about needing anew copy due to giving his old one away in the future because who would honestly believe him at that point? Therefore, him giving you the Violet Book is harmless and wouldn't arouse any suspicion for the average person while you giving him Briar's Book helps to set the story in motion. Hence, the timeline doesn't change and simply makes a loop where everything happens the same way each time.
Another likely scenario is that another event is, or at least was, planned to cause another encounter, where you trade the books back. That way, the professor can still use that Violet book and there's no possibility of Briar finding her own book in the Zero Lab before she even wrote it.
It seems like Turo / Sada giving you the Violet / Scarlet books is what closes the paradox of the timeline. That's probably why Terrapagos made you see him. Everything fit just right to close off the paradox from perhaps another sort of threat- my thoughts Dialga and Palkia cause Terrapagos seems like its not supposed to have this much power
My thought is that Terapagos connects people across time through dreams. It would then be both a time travel and dream pokemon. Also, notice Terapagos disappears while you talk to the professor.
Alot of people are getting it wrong. We saved Turo/Sada creating a branch timeline in this Turo/Sada's future. Briars book surely details his death. Even if its just a line similar to: "Within the lab the late professor left behind." By giving Sada and Turo the Briar books. They decide to go home to Arvin to finish reading the dang book. The games timeline does not change. But this is the end of the story. You save everyone in a timeline we will never get to see. Because the game needs to leave you at the post game point. However, in another timeline one this scene sets up. You saved him by giving him the Briar book. Hence it never shows up until the DLC.
I don't think so, because Briar's book is probably the reason Turo created the indigo disk and donated it to the league staff anonymously. He knew he needed to do that so Briar could get down there and write the book, also to awaken Terapagos.
That doesn't really work...? Briar isn't told everything about your first trip to Area Zero, hence why she doesn't know about the time machine, so she may not know how the professor died, and besides, I'm not sure if she would include that in her book lol
Well she says she obfuscated all names of people involved from the Briar book. So he would not know he was specifically the one responsible for the time machine or anything that happens otherwise.
Yeah, so the scarlet mons are from a timeline with dino mons and the violet mons are from a timeline with robotic mons!! Really cool concept, tbh. IDK why ty keeps thinking its the same timeline, theyre different buddy
@@freezy8092I like it way better this way, so the paradoxes are not descendants or ancestors but alternate timeline counterparts themed around time. So there is a whole alternate Timeline where only the robotic Pokémon exist and an alternate timeline where only Dino pokemon exist.
@@stefanchristian8268 That would be cool. It kinda makes me want to have a legends game set in a paradox timeline. Maybe that is the game that Khu is referring to for next year since khu said “Paradox Unova”. So it could work, and we would get new pokemon and stuff but they would just be alternate versions of our timeline Pokémon.
@@octokraken6359that could be true because gen 5 where a soft reboot for only new mons in b/w and if it’s paradox Unova, they can have more paradox show up in the remakes the gen 10 will reset the timeline by the revealing arceus god form
I actually discovered something regarding the violet book in the inventory. It’s not much but if you bring it to Arven in his dorm room he says a couple lines of dialogue about it.
There’s something exciting about Ttar experiencing the cutscene at the Crystal Pool without any prior knowledge. There’s also something sad about you being the professors’ influence for creating an AI and Time Machine but also the catalyst for their eventual death
Man this has been quite the journey I’ve loved watching your reactions to everything but you have one more important thing Ttar You NEED to do the Perrin side mission!
The professor meeting you gives me so much vindication about the paradox Pokémon. The Time Machine wasn’t just relying on the crystals, it only could exist because of them. It was an attempt at controlled application of a natural phenomenon, time travel.
I feel like the final interaction somehow created a new timeline, because if you look at the Violet Book's description now, it is the same as the one you got in the main story, with the clumsy signature of Child Turo. There is no way he would have had a second one? He called this book very precious to him, that hurts him to part ways for the trade, Which implies he doesn't have a backup copy of it. Let's not forget that we haven't found the white book anywhere in the game besides the one we gave Turo. Either a plot hole or it's proof that wherever it ended up, it's not in our present. But then again that would not explain why we have a journal entry detailing said event, unless it only exists as an in game clue to get the secret ending...
Also apparently we can no longer go to the “Time Machine” after the dlc so who knows what would’ve happened if we went down there with the SV book. Arven also has a new line of dialogue if you speak to him after getting Turo’s version of the Violet book.
I was so fuckin gagged to see the Turo from the past to be summoned by Terapagos (which confirmed it has time warping powers) and literally this is the event the journal entry in the deeper lab of area zero states that the professor was teleported to a height with a lake smelled of sulfur and a child gave him a white volume being us the player. Like I was so gagged this moment came full circle in a timeline sense. The confirmation that paradox Pokémon are Pokémon from alternate timelines makes sm sense but we still don’t know how they ended up in area zero when Heath saw them. So the “future Pokémon” are Pokémon that come from a timeline where the Pokémon are mechanical and the “past pokemon” are in a timeline where Pokémon are beastly. Imagine how Miraidon felt seeing Turo again after we know he gave his life to protect Miraidon. The “Time Machine” sent the AI professor to a different timeline instead of going into the future.
@@XParasiteOctoling but for future games let’s say gen 9 we will have to catch paradox Pokémon somehow so who knows how they will be brought in. Maybe I’ll be treated like how the crown tundra did have a portal open up where the paradox pokemon jump through like how the ultra wormholes opened up for the ultra beasts would be very cool to see the timelines they come from tho.
You have a few things left to do 1: go back to the academy and find team star 2: the Perrin quest 3: teacher Dripplin the dragon cheer tm and level it up
@TyranitarTube you have kept the scene alive for last few months in the run up with the randomizer and the paradoxes we wished we had big up. Have a nice Christmas
The funniest thing is IF you start the final Terapagos battle with any pokemon other than Ogerpon but switch her in later, Keiran actually gets pissed and says "so you choose to bring the oger out at a time like this??". I was just blown away by that lol
@@MrSkullMerchantbeat the dlc after the credits go back to the academy at Paldea talk to the two major team star members in the main entrance area inside
The snacks seem to be random, but I had been given treats for Entei, Suicune, and Ho-Oh all in a row. So that was a little funny, especially cuz at the time, I was like, "But what about Raikou?"
Could the white fog Terapagos used while summoning the professor be the same white fog that covers Area Zero? Could that be how Heath saw future/past Paradox Donphan before the creation of the time machine? Terapagos may have pulled some of the paradox Pokemon through time, and Sada/Turo used the machine to pull even more into the present.
I just went back down to AZ and was reading through the notes of Turo. He mentioned he met a kid that gave him a white book in a location that perfectly described the crystal pool in kitakami. Terapagos appeared and brought the real professor into the future. How cool is that.
The final screenshot: the one where you end up in "your dorm room" is weird. Why? When you save your game and open it again you always load back into the same area you saved. You saved in the Savana area? You load back into the Savana area. You don't load back into another area, you load back into the same area you saved! I personally saved in the Crystal Pool area, so there's no reason for me to be back at the dorm when I load the game. What does that mean? Well my theory is: it's as if the meeting never happened and created a paradox!
@@deadlydingus1138 I don't mean an actual possibility of everything being a dream, more like an initial in-universe confusion for the player character.
In a way, I want the Crystal Pool scene to be the setup for another timeline, where Sada and Turo didn't die and got to go back to Arven. Kinda like how USUM wasn't really a sequel but a separate timeline. As much as I want that I know its just not gonna happen
Isn't there also the Mega timeline where there are mega Pokemon and then a normal timeline where there aren't? Idk I heard about that long ago, maybe to do with the gen 3 remakes
@@mariotheundying Yeah, basically the idea being that the activation of AZ’s ultimate weapon and use of it, split the timelines in two. One timeline, with the gens 1-5 having no mega evolution, and another, with gens 6-9 (along with Let’s go and ORAS) having mega evolution or being in a world where it exists. It’s the official (or borderline official) explanation for the big difference plot wise and game mechanics wise between RS and ORAS. I believe the delta episode covered this but I could be wrong.
@@It-Will-All-Be-Okay-I-Promise ohh okay, I imagine BDSP is part of the Mega timeline prob, so gen 2 and gen 5 don't have a mega timeline counterpart yet (maybe another let's go and a remake), but yeah thanks for reminding me
Crazy how at the start of the cutscene ttar said Turo knows the secrets of the universe as a joke, then proceeded to inform Turo of said secrets of the universe
I know this is probably the last of the S/V DLC, but I hope we get a part 3 since we don't have Dokutaro yet. Also, the trailer showed some things that looked like they took place in Paldea.
For the Violet Book it can make sense in one case.. Imagine our character return to the time machine, use it and in some point go back in the past and let the Violet Book behind him for Arven..
Actually there always has been multiple copies of the violet book. Even the school had one of those copies. So it's most likely that he got himself another copy
But it has to be the Professor's copy exactly, the same one Arven used to learn about Herba Mystica and the same one that was used to shut down the time machine and end up with the AI Professor
thing is, i would imagine that instead of the scarlet/violet book ending up as the key for the time machine, sada/turo end up using the secrets of area zero book instead, so if we used the scarlet/violet book to unlock it, it wouldnt work because it would be the wrong book. given turo brings up alternate timelines though, and given arven's reaction to you having the book after this cutscene, i don't think we altered our existing timeline. i think that by giving sada and turo the white book, it creates an alternative timeline that we dont get to see. and in this timeline, everything for the most part plays out the same, except for a few key differences, which end up leading to that timeline's sada/turo giving an alternate version of us the white book, and the alternate version of us giving altsada/turo the s/vbook, which leads back into our own timeline.
If Violet is ultraviolet and Scarlet is Infrared than Briar's white take on the book makes sense because it's the collection of visible light also Green is the light mirrors reflect so maybe this is why Cyclizar is green and maybe we'll get something addressing that in a third DLC
They had something like this in Boruto where the aliens the Otsutsukis have a time traveling turtle they use to go the past. Both that and Terapagos are based on Urashima Tarō
If this is a time loop, then we are indirectly the reason Arven's dad/mom died. However, I do find it weird that after that cut scene, we wake up in a completely different region than Kitakami. It could just be a flash forward, but could you imagine it was just a dream and it manifested a copy of the violet/scarlet book because of us having Terapagos. Us owning the book makes no sense at all for the timeline because it exists still in the past as well.
Nothing left to say, great job man. For carrying the hype season all this time, for displaying wonderful reactions, for working your ass off to put as much effort into your videos as possible, and for also being as genuine as possible, with not only your fans, but to even gamefreak 😭. Keep up the great work. I know that you’re gonna retire soon, and it’s gonna hit like a truck, but you deserve your rest. Take care man.
I am glad we finally got answers on the origin of Paradox Pokemon not only it keep Ho-Oh's resurrection of The Legendary Dogs in tact & not recon it but it continues to expand The Pokemon Multiverse which has been established since USUM also we cause a Time Loop with Sada/Turo at The Crystal Pool.
@@walaceandrade4046I don't we got solid evidence which lines up with what Khu said, something about just small details but never confirming anything lol.
@@walaceandrade4046The Paradox Pokémon are probably from different timelines where they appear robotic/fossil-like in nature, similarly to the Ultra Beasts in their respective worlds.
@@XParasiteOctoling Right. But so many people refused to take what the game said at face value lol. Like the game says it's Time travel and time machines and Paradoxes but everybody just ignored it said "Nah, must all be dreams" lol.
@@lucifermorningstar8562 Personally I didn’t like the time travel idea because of the ancient Pokémon. They felt too similar to each other with their stat totals, abilities, and they don’t even have a gender. And if ancient Pokémon were like this why weren’t the fossil Pokémon like this? Fossil Pokémon felt more natural than the past paradoxes So I assumed the paradoxes were artificially made somehow I’ll take the alternate timeline theory though, means I don’t have to worry about all that if they’re not from our timeline.
@@XParasiteOctoling Yeah, they're Paradoxes. By definition they don't follow the conventional rules. The past, lore and future we know never actually mattered because they're paradoxical. That's what I like about the concept. They found an excuse to make absolutely any Pokémon they want be completely different. They could even make a Paradox Mewtwo if they wanted and it'd follow the Paradoxical logic. Lol.
@@lucifermorningstar8562 I mean all they have to do is say the Mewtwo’s from a different timeline and it would make sense now. Their origins don’t seem that paradoxical now unless you count the paradox in the video (or maybe I’m missing something)
Gamefreak TPCi whomstever really dropped the ball with the performance issues and some other elements of the game, but the story and the lore with Area Zero is some of the best stuff they've done. I'm going to miss the fascination and discovery of this place.
Technically Koraidon/Miraidon's name has always existed, because of a loop paradox. You know it's called that because the professor wrote it, while the professor knows its name because you told him.
@@mariotheundying That's the paradox, there's no origin of the name. You learn the name from the professor's book, the professors learn it from you and write in on their book.
@@elegant_lilligant still, it must've had an origin, not just some string of non-existent letters somewhere in the universe prior to those events, and even prior to the pokemon world's formation
@@mariotheundying Yes but because of how paradoxes are we can never 100% know the truth. The name _should_ have an origin point, but since it technically has two origins that both cause one another it forms a circle with no start or end points. We can only observe the existence of said circle and know it exists, but can never conclusively say where it begins or ends.
I'm experiencing the DLC with Ttar so this broke me too omg congrats for getting your theory confirmed, in a way!! Gamefreak really went all out I am so happy!!!
TTar the new prevailing theory is that it is cross-time travel, pulling things from one universes time-line and bringing it to out in this universes present time-line.
here's some more theories i wrote about: We create a time paradox. My personal opinion is an alternate timeline has been created. Firstly, the moment you meet the professor you are locked into it. You cannot turn back. I tested this (by accident actually xD) because [spoilers] when the professor asks you for the book and I wanted to read it before giving it (back?) to her, and realize the only way for me was to restart to my previous save. You are given a small pause between meeting the professor and actually talking to them; where you can walk around them a bit. The game is locked in that moment: you cannot open your menu, or do anything "game related". (kinda meta right, I love it!) That's the first point. Now lets move on the title screen itself. I've kept playing the game (to grind the Terrarium) and the title screen is now this image (show above): sunset, different atmospheric music. And it will stay that way now, once you've done the Sada / Turo event. (another meta moment!)
What if Heath didn’t write the Violet or Scarlet Book. What if when you visit Area Zero the same thing happens where Terapagos summons Heath. Since you’re holding onto the Violet Book you give it to him and he claims it as his own when he returns to the surface. As the player, you’ve just created a closed time loop.
This has been so great. I’m glad they confirmed this, honestly they should hire you to keep the Pokemon Hype going strong and heck I can’t wait to see what happens after this.
How would they hire him lol. He does theories and stuff about what could happen, you think they're gonna go "hey all of a sudden we wanna give you money to make theories"? Okay lol.
-briar went down and discover hidden treasure and terapagos things from books -she wrote the book about anything that has happened -she gives the book to protag -cutscene -exchange book with turo -loop btw he says "MY copy of violet book" meaning it probably the different book from school
@TyranitarTube Keiran MAY be at his house in Kitakami. also, you should go back to the Zero Lab since you have the Violet Book and see if you can re-activate the time machine. also you need to register 200 Blueberry Academy mons in your dex and then talk to the photographer lady. she will show you some pics and then you can find the new Paradox Swords/Beasts in Aera Zero. Dipplin evolves into Hydrapple if it levels up knowing Dragon Cheer (the movie Drayton gave you the TM for)
It seems like I was right! It was never past or future forms. But alternative timelines/parallel universes in which these pokemon came. At least hinted. I've been saying this for so long. And it is all because the Crystal Flower in Kalos which is very similar to the Area Zero Crystals, as well as the Mirror Cave which is right next to where the flower was and was said to be windows to alternative universes, timelines.
Oh my god I figured out paradox pokemon. It's in DIFFERENT TIMELINES, so no matter how far back you go or how far forward you go, you will never find any of the paradox mons, but if you were to transfer yourself to a completely different timeline, they would be replacing the normal mons. So in an alternate universe (aka timeline) instead of finding a donphan tou would find an iron treads or a great tusk
51:04 No, no, that is HIS book, his copy of the book that he used himself, there are other copies of the book, like the one Briar has, and probably some others that are also edited
It’s a bootstrap paradox and the proof is on the diary entry deep down in secret lab in the new area below. Briar didn’t read that diary. It’s says he got ideas from a young kid.
In german Turo says that he probably end up in a different timeLINE. So I don’t know what is being said in the Japanese version but his could also imply the turo we see is not the one from our timeline. I don’t know if it makes sense… or just a paradox 😅
I think people just think in only one way, everyone thinks that Turo takes Pokémon from other future/past basedtimelines, but i think that he takes those Pokémon from timelines where every other dimensional versions of him ALREADY took them, and that's how those where created, the all story is a Paradox, and maybe he even encountered Terapagos himself and made a time loop to encounter heath and gave him the schematrixes to create the time machine, even the way you go to meet the professor is a paradox, you know where to go because of a note in the area below but in truth is beacuse of the player who got him to time travel
Regarding the “book exchange,” there is also the possibility that we are in an infinite regression from one timeline to another. As they say, *it’s turtles all the way down.*
Okay. So they pretty much went with the ‘Marvel Theory of the multiverse’, where you can get stuff from the past to the present, and in doing so, it won’t change *your* past, but it changes the future for the *original* timeline. Basically, you created *your own timeline*… No matter what you say about Game Freak, they cared deeply about this game to the point where the events in this game could alter every single game in the future.
THE FINAL EPISODES MY DUDES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING WITH ME YALL!!! I"M MAD HAPPY
It was super fun watching your reactions to all the events!! Thank you for making these videos so fast!
I think Greta’s the girl because of khu tweet with geeta
Love it
Can confirm that doing this in Scarlet has Sada asking if she traveled to the past.
@@Tony2-Dirtyno, she says "from YOUR perspective, I AM from the past?"
What if ture died protecting the miraidon because he knew that it was the miraidon he saw, and so he knew that he had to protect it to protect the timeline from collapsing.
That’s a fun theory. I’m going to choose to believe this from now on.
That is actually quite possible
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Really good theory bc Sada/Turo are smart enough to think about things like that
That would definitely tie it into the time loop. I like the way you think 😎
I was waiting for ttar's reaction to this
What he didn't realize was that we gave the professor the info they needed to make the time machine. WE made them succeed. WE realized their dream.
...we essentially also killed them.
wrong, the player also took the purple book, meaning no more book in the past, meaning no information of the paradoxes, meaning no key to the time machine, meaning no book for arven to read, meaning no herba mystica for mabosstiff, meaning no miraidon upgrades, meaning not flying to area zero, meaning nothing happening
this is one of the worst and biggest plotholes in all of pokemon
@@gatex33d74 The professor after having read the book a billion times and memorizing it:
Edit: i misread horribly. Forget this reply.
@@gatex33d74 still, that doesn't change anything. There are several copies of the book out there. Who said Arven's book was actually the original Scarlet/Violet book?
It could also end up being some alternate reality stuff
@@sebastianramirez9090 yeah, that too.
This one cutscene is one of the best parts of this entire game. They set up an entire timeloop. We give him the Briar book which may have helped him find Terapagos. But we only went down there because of what Sada/Turo found. They met us before they even made the time machine. And they give us the Scarlet and Violet books, but those are the keys they used for the time machine which they have yet to build. The time loop paradox set up is insane
That's the one part that doesn't seem to make sense. Everything else we do ENABLES the events of (our) past to occur, but we also take the book, which would PREVENT them from occurring. It's pretty clear it's not just another copy the professor gives us, it's signed and even described as precious… So shouldn't there be another cutscene in which the book somehow travels back to the past before the time machine activates?
Also, Arven's reaction to us talking to him after this cutscene is just noticing the book and saying "oh, did you take it from the library?" and that's pathetic. I know getting him involved might be opening old wounds and he's essentially learned to move on now, but still…
@@ewormXD There's a chance we might end up bringing the professors once again and give them the book back after the event with Dokutaro
The thing is: he had already met Terapagos in this cutscene. Remember his report of this very encounter, that we found on the Underdepths? He said that it happened when he was inspecting the Treasure's power (or similar words). So both the Terapagos that was with Turo and our Terapagos did the time breaking stuff at the same time, making this conversation happen.
This is all insane and I love it.
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Or he got a new "copy" after this.
Wait, *why would give HIMSELF an autograph?* I mean, was his signing it suppose to prove it was one-of-a-kind?
@@Bezaliel13 I thought it was more he signed his name so it could be identified as his personal copy.
Yea so for anyone wondering about how the Cutscene works:
Terapagos and Sada/Turo’s time Machine somehow warped Space Time. This transported the REAL Professor to our time. But then our encounter inspires them to create the AI, the Time Machine, and all of the events of the rest of the story.
This occurrence is a phenomenon known as a Bootstrap Predestination Paradox. U travel to the past, inspire future events to occur, and certain inventions and events (the Time Machine, the AI, etc) were ALWAYS destined to happen, or certain items were always meant to exist, and essentially were created ex nihilo, as u bring it to the past, which inspires its creation later in history, so u can bring it to the past and then the cycle continues.
A better example of this is in Pokemon The Movie 4-Ever, with Celebi and Professor Oak. Ash shows Oak a Modern Day Pokeball and the Electronic Pokedex, which inspired him to create his own versions, which Ash then got, and showed young Oak, repeating the loop. These paradoxes bend the fabric of reality, and make quantum physicists and time travel theorists question if past events can be altered and if a Multiverse exists.
but how does it work if we now hold the key that sada/turo use in their "time machine"? how could it exist in the past when it was sent directly into the future?
@@maxxus2_ he likely can make a second, based on the info on the briar book. Thats my guess. With going into the past the paradox is easy to explain. When going to the future, thats where it gets tricky.
@@maxxus2_ Part 3 DLC? Never say never.
@@maxxus2_there are multiple copies of the book that exist. The original one is held by briar, an then raven has a copy but the school also has a copy too.
It's a Time Loop, Kinda Like the Grandfather Paradox's
I think one of my favorite details is the fact Keiran will have a unique reaction if you throw out Ogrepon during your first battle with him. I had the thought he would, and was so happy to see it for myself during our battle.
Karmine as well
Whole game is a Paradox and based on event at the crystal pool we r the indirect cause of Sada/Turo passing away.
We say to Sada/Turo that Koraidon/Miraidon is Precious partner to us.Professors saw Koraidon/Miraidons nature so when in thier timeline 2 same species get hostile it went between them maybe remembering what she/he saw, she/he recognised our Koraidon/Miraidon so he/she tries to protect it.That's why AI couldn't find logic in this action and maybe AI didn't have all memories of Sada/Turo.
40:50 I've got scarlet, and Sada says "From your perspective, I must have come from the past?" She says OUR perspective, while Turo speaks from his own.
Also, when the original professor turns around to face you and the music swells? Chills, goosebumps!
Discovering this secret on my own was one of the best things this gen I can’t describe how hype it was to witness it
Ttar, with the fly ability on miraidon you can fly up the top of the terrarium core and there's really good rewards up there.
Even the opening screen is in a time paradox too. We started with the Scarlet and Violet books and then we ended with them
That not really a paradox, that's a loop.
@@ZimVerseit’s a paradox because he shouldn’t have the book when we get to that point
@@ZimVerseI literally said this to myself when I read it and opened the comments to see yours😂
Ttar has just accidentally taught him the secrets of the universe
I love that they actually play the themes for the Legendaries in their best remixed versions, at least I think so, I don't know about the Kanto Birds, but the Johto Beasts have their HGSS themes as well as Ho-Oh and Lugia's remixes as well, even the ORAS remixes for Weather Trio
Kanto and aloha have them
That interaction with the professor was hard to watch knowing what it would cause. I hope we get more answers to the mysteries.
And of course, GameFreak would give us the options that would tell the professors what they need to know.
Gotta thank Ttar for making all them theory videos, made the experience much better 🔥
They hyped me up to the sky making me feel mad disappointed at the dlc due to lack of content😭😭 I really loved the theories! But ngl the dlc was the great
exactly, i feel like all of us who watched all his vids had the most fun with this dlc
Went from completely not caring about the dlc to fully interested after watching some of his theory videos. He definitely made this a joy to watch.
This is so true. And it's not like Ttar made his theory videos just for YT content, but he's very hyped and passionate about the game and its mysteries and lore. Extremely deeply emotionally invested with it. It got me extremely into it too.
I think what a lot of people miss about the ending cutscene is that the Time Machine doesn't exist yet by the time the Professor converses with you. He says that he's still working on the drafts, likely not even having built anything yet. Therefore, the Violet Book that he gives you at the end of the conversation wouldn't have anything to do with it and wouldn't have an impact on what the machine can do or how it's shut down later on. So once he disappears back to his own time, he can simply get another book and connect THAT one to his new time machine once it has been completed, and it's therefore still be "the professor's copy" that's spoken of as being the key connected to it. He just probably wouldn't talk much about needing anew copy due to giving his old one away in the future because who would honestly believe him at that point?
Therefore, him giving you the Violet Book is harmless and wouldn't arouse any suspicion for the average person while you giving him Briar's Book helps to set the story in motion. Hence, the timeline doesn't change and simply makes a loop where everything happens the same way each time.
Another likely scenario is that another event is, or at least was, planned to cause another encounter, where you trade the books back.
That way, the professor can still use that Violet book and there's no possibility of Briar finding her own book in the Zero Lab before she even wrote it.
It seems like Turo / Sada giving you the Violet / Scarlet books is what closes the paradox of the timeline. That's probably why Terrapagos made you see him. Everything fit just right to close off the paradox from perhaps another sort of threat- my thoughts Dialga and Palkia cause Terrapagos seems like its not supposed to have this much power
It’s always so fun to see you’re reaction through this dlc
My thought is that Terapagos connects people across time through dreams. It would then be both a time travel and dream pokemon. Also, notice Terapagos disappears while you talk to the professor.
It just retruned to its ball. You can even hear the sound prompt for it.
Alot of people are getting it wrong. We saved Turo/Sada creating a branch timeline in this Turo/Sada's future. Briars book surely details his death. Even if its just a line similar to: "Within the lab the late professor left behind." By giving Sada and Turo the Briar books. They decide to go home to Arvin to finish reading the dang book. The games timeline does not change. But this is the end of the story. You save everyone in a timeline we will never get to see. Because the game needs to leave you at the post game point. However, in another timeline one this scene sets up. You saved him by giving him the Briar book. Hence it never shows up until the DLC.
I don't think so, because Briar's book is probably the reason Turo created the indigo disk and donated it to the league staff anonymously. He knew he needed to do that so Briar could get down there and write the book, also to awaken Terapagos.
@@komi___so we essentially furthered Sada/Turo down the path that got them killed?…
That doesn't really work...? Briar isn't told everything about your first trip to Area Zero, hence why she doesn't know about the time machine, so she may not know how the professor died, and besides, I'm not sure if she would include that in her book lol
Sounds like your own headcanon
Well she says she obfuscated all names of people involved from the Briar book. So he would not know he was specifically the one responsible for the time machine or anything that happens otherwise.
Ao the paradoxes are form alternative timelines.... The palkia/dialga raids made sense!
Yeah, so the scarlet mons are from a timeline with dino mons and the violet mons are from a timeline with robotic mons!! Really cool concept, tbh. IDK why ty keeps thinking its the same timeline, theyre different buddy
@@freezy8092I like it way better this way, so the paradoxes are not descendants or ancestors but alternate timeline counterparts themed around time. So there is a whole alternate Timeline where only the robotic Pokémon exist and an alternate timeline where only Dino pokemon exist.
@@octokraken6359 and turo did say timelineS, maybe each paradox mon is from its own timeline
@@stefanchristian8268 That would be cool. It kinda makes me want to have a legends game set in a paradox timeline. Maybe that is the game that Khu is referring to for next year since khu said “Paradox Unova”. So it could work, and we would get new pokemon and stuff but they would just be alternate versions of our timeline Pokémon.
@@octokraken6359that could be true because gen 5 where a soft reboot for only new mons in b/w and if it’s paradox Unova, they can have more paradox show up in the remakes the gen 10 will reset the timeline by the revealing arceus god form
I actually discovered something regarding the violet book in the inventory. It’s not much but if you bring it to Arven in his dorm room he says a couple lines of dialogue about it.
There’s something exciting about Ttar experiencing the cutscene at the Crystal Pool without any prior knowledge. There’s also something sad about you being the professors’ influence for creating an AI and Time Machine but also the catalyst for their eventual death
Man this has been quite the journey I’ve loved watching your reactions to everything but you have one more important thing Ttar You NEED to do the Perrin side mission!
The professor meeting you gives me so much vindication about the paradox Pokémon.
The Time Machine wasn’t just relying on the crystals, it only could exist because of them. It was an attempt at controlled application of a natural phenomenon, time travel.
I feel like the final interaction somehow created a new timeline, because if you look at the Violet Book's description now, it is the same as the one you got in the main story, with the clumsy signature of Child Turo. There is no way he would have had a second one? He called this book very precious to him, that hurts him to part ways for the trade, Which implies he doesn't have a backup copy of it.
Let's not forget that we haven't found the white book anywhere in the game besides the one we gave Turo. Either a plot hole or it's proof that wherever it ended up, it's not in our present. But then again that would not explain why we have a journal entry detailing said event, unless it only exists as an in game clue to get the secret ending...
But yet there are mentions of the white book in our timeline
When he said what about that white book wile I knew what was going to happen and laughed so much
Also apparently we can no longer go to the “Time Machine” after the dlc so who knows what would’ve happened if we went down there with the SV book. Arven also has a new line of dialogue if you speak to him after getting Turo’s version of the Violet book.
You can actually, just remove the indigo disk
@@mobious01does the time machine doing anything ?
@@mobious01huh?!! how??
wait what?@@mobious01
@@mobious01 wait can you actually do that?because i go outside zero lab and the maching does not interact with me!!
I was so fuckin gagged to see the Turo from the past to be summoned by Terapagos (which confirmed it has time warping powers) and literally this is the event the journal entry in the deeper lab of area zero states that the professor was teleported to a height with a lake smelled of sulfur and a child gave him a white volume being us the player. Like I was so gagged this moment came full circle in a timeline sense. The confirmation that paradox Pokémon are Pokémon from alternate timelines makes sm sense but we still don’t know how they ended up in area zero when Heath saw them. So the “future Pokémon” are Pokémon that come from a timeline where the Pokémon are mechanical and the “past pokemon” are in a timeline where Pokémon are beastly. Imagine how Miraidon felt seeing Turo again after we know he gave his life to protect Miraidon. The “Time Machine” sent the AI professor to a different timeline instead of going into the future.
Terapagos probably pulled the paradoxes here
most prb when heath blacked out he prb got pulled to when turo pulled the paradoxes out himself so tht there is another paradox in of itself
@@XParasiteOctoling but for future games let’s say gen 9 we will have to catch paradox Pokémon somehow so who knows how they will be brought in. Maybe I’ll be treated like how the crown tundra did have a portal open up where the paradox pokemon jump through like how the ultra wormholes opened up for the ultra beasts would be very cool to see the timelines they come from tho.
You have a few things left to do
1: go back to the academy and find team star
2: the Perrin quest
3: teacher Dripplin the dragon cheer tm and level it up
@TyranitarTube you have kept the scene alive for last few months in the run up with the randomizer and the paradoxes we wished we had big up. Have a nice Christmas
The funniest thing is IF you start the final Terapagos battle with any pokemon other than Ogerpon but switch her in later, Keiran actually gets pissed and says "so you choose to bring the oger out at a time like this??". I was just blown away by that lol
uh, you mixed stuff up
that happens if you bring Ogerpon against Kieran as in BB League Champion Kieran, not against Terapagos lol
I always brought Ogerpon in all battles after Kieran and only in the champion battle he comments
Hopefully you check out the secret quest with Team Star back at Paldea
How does one start that quest?
@@MrSkullMerchantbeat the dlc after the credits go back to the academy at Paldea talk to the two major team star members in the main entrance area inside
After u get sent back to paldea After that scene I noticed they were there to talk to
@@Eyun33thankyou i appreciate it 👍
I beat the dlc and saw the credits, but they were not at the academy for me....
The snacks seem to be random, but I had been given treats for Entei, Suicune, and Ho-Oh all in a row. So that was a little funny, especially cuz at the time, I was like, "But what about Raikou?"
Sada says "from your perspective, I must come from the past"
Could the white fog Terapagos used while summoning the professor be the same white fog that covers Area Zero? Could that be how Heath saw future/past Paradox Donphan before the creation of the time machine? Terapagos may have pulled some of the paradox Pokemon through time, and Sada/Turo used the machine to pull even more into the present.
I just went back down to AZ and was reading through the notes of Turo. He mentioned he met a kid that gave him a white book in a location that perfectly described the crystal pool in kitakami. Terapagos appeared and brought the real professor into the future. How cool is that.
In the astral realm some say that you can time travel and see things in the past and future sometimes not in your control
The final screenshot: the one where you end up in "your dorm room" is weird.
Why?
When you save your game and open it again you always load back into the same area you saved. You saved in the Savana area? You load back into the Savana area. You don't load back into another area, you load back into the same area you saved! I personally saved in the Crystal Pool area, so there's no reason for me to be back at the dorm when I load the game.
What does that mean? Well my theory is: it's as if the meeting never happened and created a paradox!
We're not just starting the game in out dorm - we're starting it next to our bed. Pretty sure the implication is "was it a dream…?"
@@ewormXD I’d agree with you, but you still have the Scarlet/Violet book he gives you.
@@deadlydingus1138 I don't mean an actual possibility of everything being a dream, more like an initial in-universe confusion for the player character.
In a way, I want the Crystal Pool scene to be the setup for another timeline, where Sada and Turo didn't die and got to go back to Arven. Kinda like how USUM wasn't really a sequel but a separate timeline. As much as I want that I know its just not gonna happen
Isn't there also the Mega timeline where there are mega Pokemon and then a normal timeline where there aren't? Idk I heard about that long ago, maybe to do with the gen 3 remakes
@@mariotheundying Yeah, basically the idea being that the activation of AZ’s ultimate weapon and use of it, split the timelines in two. One timeline, with the gens 1-5 having no mega evolution, and another, with gens 6-9 (along with Let’s go and ORAS) having mega evolution or being in a world where it exists.
It’s the official (or borderline official) explanation for the big difference plot wise and game mechanics wise between RS and ORAS. I believe the delta episode covered this but I could be wrong.
@@It-Will-All-Be-Okay-I-Promise ohh okay, I imagine BDSP is part of the Mega timeline prob, so gen 2 and gen 5 don't have a mega timeline counterpart yet (maybe another let's go and a remake), but yeah thanks for reminding me
So like this proves that its gotta be time then. Instead of imagination/dreams
SV was amazing, legit had me feeling emotional in so many scenes. What a beautiful journey
I just love his reaction to this dlc it was fun watching his playthrough
Crazy how at the start of the cutscene ttar said Turo knows the secrets of the universe as a joke, then proceeded to inform Turo of said secrets of the universe
I know this is probably the last of the S/V DLC, but I hope we get a part 3 since we don't have Dokutaro yet. Also, the trailer showed some things that looked like they took place in Paldea.
There is an event in the files called mochi mayhem that’ll probably begin around pokemon day next February
6:22 I thought they were gonna bring back Blue Man😂😂
For the Violet Book it can make sense in one case.. Imagine our character return to the time machine, use it and in some point go back in the past and let the Violet Book behind him for Arven..
Actually there always has been multiple copies of the violet book. Even the school had one of those copies. So it's most likely that he got himself another copy
But it has to be the Professor's copy exactly, the same one Arven used to learn about Herba Mystica and the same one that was used to shut down the time machine and end up with the AI Professor
@@gabrieljacobbermejo3876 yeah its thé samedi Book
thing is, i would imagine that instead of the scarlet/violet book ending up as the key for the time machine, sada/turo end up using the secrets of area zero book instead, so if we used the scarlet/violet book to unlock it, it wouldnt work because it would be the wrong book.
given turo brings up alternate timelines though, and given arven's reaction to you having the book after this cutscene, i don't think we altered our existing timeline. i think that by giving sada and turo the white book, it creates an alternative timeline that we dont get to see. and in this timeline, everything for the most part plays out the same, except for a few key differences, which end up leading to that timeline's sada/turo giving an alternate version of us the white book, and the alternate version of us giving altsada/turo the s/vbook, which leads back into our own timeline.
If Violet is ultraviolet and Scarlet is Infrared than Briar's white take on the book makes sense because it's the collection of visible light
also Green is the light mirrors reflect so maybe this is why Cyclizar is green and maybe we'll get something addressing that in a third DLC
If we get a 3rd dlc I think we should have in exchange Gamefreak to delay gen 10, even if it's from 3 years from gen to gen to 4 years
Light bulb moment! Dokutaro latched on to this Sarah/torto and that's why the other one went insane!
I haven't slept ever since you uploaded episode 1 cuz i wanted to catch the uploads as soon as they're uploaded so glad it finally ended
They had something like this in Boruto where the aliens the Otsutsukis have a time traveling turtle they use to go the past. Both that and Terapagos are based on Urashima Tarō
t... TARO?? DOKU TARO??
Basically, this paradox is just like between Ouroboros and Victor Timely in Loki Season 2.
If this is a time loop, then we are indirectly the reason Arven's dad/mom died. However, I do find it weird that after that cut scene, we wake up in a completely different region than Kitakami. It could just be a flash forward, but could you imagine it was just a dream and it manifested a copy of the violet/scarlet book because of us having Terapagos. Us owning the book makes no sense at all for the timeline because it exists still in the past as well.
That ending just cutting out, hahaha
Nothing left to say, great job man. For carrying the hype season all this time, for displaying wonderful reactions, for working your ass off to put as much effort into your videos as possible, and for also being as genuine as possible, with not only your fans, but to even gamefreak 😭. Keep up the great work. I know that you’re gonna retire soon, and it’s gonna hit like a truck, but you deserve your rest. Take care man.
I am glad we finally got answers on the origin of Paradox Pokemon not only it keep Ho-Oh's resurrection of The Legendary Dogs in tact & not recon it but it continues to expand The Pokemon Multiverse which has been established since USUM also we cause a Time Loop with Sada/Turo at The Crystal Pool.
Anf after all, what are their origins?
@@walaceandrade4046I don't we got solid evidence which lines up with what Khu said, something about just small details but never confirming anything lol.
@@walaceandrade4046The Paradox Pokémon are probably from different timelines where they appear robotic/fossil-like in nature, similarly to the Ultra Beasts in their respective worlds.
Hope gen 10 has a story as good as the dlc.
The 3,000 BP things are for the starters to spawn in the Terarium.
Yep. All the trainers you can invite are either from Paldea or Blueberry.
@@Magma-Idiot-2001ok now thats a spoiler. Delete it or put a spoiler warning pls
@@what.are.you.doing.stepbro Alright, I changed my statement.
Bootstrap and grandfather paradoxes, this game is amazing
50:15 Turo didn’t have the book in base game. He needed you and Arven to bring it.
Time loop/Paradox confirmed. No more dream theories. Finally.
The alternate timeline theory was the correct one
@@XParasiteOctoling Right. But so many people refused to take what the game said at face value lol. Like the game says it's Time travel and time machines and Paradoxes but everybody just ignored it said "Nah, must all be dreams" lol.
@@lucifermorningstar8562 Personally I didn’t like the time travel idea because of the ancient Pokémon. They felt too similar to each other with their stat totals, abilities, and they don’t even have a gender. And if ancient Pokémon were like this why weren’t the fossil Pokémon like this? Fossil Pokémon felt more natural than the past paradoxes So I assumed the paradoxes were artificially made somehow
I’ll take the alternate timeline theory though, means I don’t have to worry about all that if they’re not from our timeline.
@@XParasiteOctoling Yeah, they're Paradoxes. By definition they don't follow the conventional rules. The past, lore and future we know never actually mattered because they're paradoxical. That's what I like about the concept. They found an excuse to make absolutely any Pokémon they want be completely different. They could even make a Paradox Mewtwo if they wanted and it'd follow the Paradoxical logic. Lol.
@@lucifermorningstar8562 I mean all they have to do is say the Mewtwo’s from a different timeline and it would make sense now. Their origins don’t seem that paradoxical now unless you count the paradox in the video (or maybe I’m missing something)
Gamefreak TPCi whomstever really dropped the ball with the performance issues and some other elements of the game, but the story and the lore with Area Zero is some of the best stuff they've done. I'm going to miss the fascination and discovery of this place.
Technically Koraidon/Miraidon's name has always existed, because of a loop paradox. You know it's called that because the professor wrote it, while the professor knows its name because you told him.
yup, thats what he said in the video.
I wonder who came up with that name, because before he brought koraidon or miraidon to the present, he always already met you
@@mariotheundying That's the paradox, there's no origin of the name. You learn the name from the professor's book, the professors learn it from you and write in on their book.
@@elegant_lilligant still, it must've had an origin, not just some string of non-existent letters somewhere in the universe prior to those events, and even prior to the pokemon world's formation
@@mariotheundying Yes but because of how paradoxes are we can never 100% know the truth. The name _should_ have an origin point, but since it technically has two origins that both cause one another it forms a circle with no start or end points. We can only observe the existence of said circle and know it exists, but can never conclusively say where it begins or ends.
I'm experiencing the DLC with Ttar so this broke me too omg congrats for getting your theory confirmed, in a way!! Gamefreak really went all out I am so happy!!!
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS! Thank you for your incredible hype and reactions TTAR!
Dude your playthrough was so entertaining🤣 your the best my man
Ttar being speechless is something we never see and it makes this so much better
TTar the new prevailing theory is that it is cross-time travel, pulling things from one universes time-line and bringing it to out in this universes present time-line.
White child is so funny to me every time. Its child with the white book.
here's some more theories i wrote about:
We create a time paradox. My personal opinion is an alternate timeline has been created.
Firstly, the moment you meet the professor you are locked into it. You cannot turn back. I tested this (by accident actually xD) because [spoilers] when the professor asks you for the book and I wanted to read it before giving it (back?) to her, and realize the only way for me was to restart to my previous save.
You are given a small pause between meeting the professor and actually talking to them; where you can walk around them a bit. The game is locked in that moment: you cannot open your menu, or do anything "game related". (kinda meta right, I love it!)
That's the first point. Now lets move on the title screen itself. I've kept playing the game (to grind the Terrarium) and the title screen is now this image (show above): sunset, different atmospheric music. And it will stay that way now, once you've done the Sada / Turo event. (another meta moment!)
What if Heath didn’t write the Violet or Scarlet Book. What if when you visit Area Zero the same thing happens where Terapagos summons Heath. Since you’re holding onto the Violet Book you give it to him and he claims it as his own when he returns to the surface.
As the player, you’ve just created a closed time loop.
Oh wait, so the player still needs to go back to the past, hand the scarlet book to Heath, and that book eventually is found by SadaTuro again
This has been so great. I’m glad they confirmed this, honestly they should hire you to keep the Pokemon Hype going strong and heck I can’t wait to see what happens after this.
How would they hire him lol. He does theories and stuff about what could happen, you think they're gonna go "hey all of a sudden we wanna give you money to make theories"? Okay lol.
I have goosebumps when i hear the cover in the menu screen
IS THIS WHY THE AI KNEW WHO YOU WERE, BECAUSE HE/SHE SHARES THE MEMORIES OF THE PROFESSOR AND WOULD KNOW TO FIND YOU IN PARTICULAR?
When Heith said he recalls talking to someone, said person used Terapagos to talk with Heith likr you used it to talk with Turo
I think at least
-briar went down and discover hidden treasure and terapagos things from books
-she wrote the book about anything that has happened
-she gives the book to protag
-cutscene
-exchange book with turo
-loop
btw he says "MY copy of violet book" meaning it probably the different book from school
@TyranitarTube Keiran MAY be at his house in Kitakami. also, you should go back to the Zero Lab since you have the Violet Book and see if you can re-activate the time machine. also you need to register 200 Blueberry Academy mons in your dex and then talk to the photographer lady. she will show you some pics and then you can find the new Paradox Swords/Beasts in Aera Zero. Dipplin evolves into Hydrapple if it levels up knowing Dragon Cheer (the movie Drayton gave you the TM for)
It seems like I was right! It was never past or future forms. But alternative timelines/parallel universes in which these pokemon came. At least hinted. I've been saying this for so long. And it is all because the Crystal Flower in Kalos which is very similar to the Area Zero Crystals, as well as the Mirror Cave which is right next to where the flower was and was said to be windows to alternative universes, timelines.
I knew it. I called it! I knew the Paradox Pokemon weren't dreams, they were just from another timeline!
LMAO that noise he made at the zekrom treat was gr8
Giving Turo the Violet Book creates an alternate future paradox timeline, spurring the events of a future game
Yo if the actual professor was still alive instead of the AI would they have recognized the player character.
Turo be pulling Pokemon not from our timeline's future, but Pokemon from a different timelines/realities. Arceus...
Are we in an alternate universe! Because we spawned back into Niranja (or the other) Instead of Blueberry!! Why tho?
Oh my god I figured out paradox pokemon. It's in DIFFERENT TIMELINES, so no matter how far back you go or how far forward you go, you will never find any of the paradox mons, but if you were to transfer yourself to a completely different timeline, they would be replacing the normal mons. So in an alternate universe (aka timeline) instead of finding a donphan tou would find an iron treads or a great tusk
For a bit more context if this is true, this may not be our turo. Like he said, even he might be from an alternate universe
He broke the Timeline so hard, he ended the video
51:04 No, no, that is HIS book, his copy of the book that he used himself, there are other copies of the book, like the one Briar has, and probably some others that are also edited
It’s a bootstrap paradox and the proof is on the diary entry deep down in secret lab in the new area below. Briar didn’t read that diary. It’s says he got ideas from a young kid.
The part you said about Telapagos being a time travel Pokemon was hilarious, LMAO. Well done Ttar, you exchanged books to create a different timeline.
i missed the journal entry in the depths but i figured out myself that this was a time loop... it blew my mind.
I like to think of Terapoagos being a multiverse Pokemon. The Paradox Pokemon being from alternate timelines and worlds
In german Turo says that he probably end up in a different timeLINE. So I don’t know what is being said in the Japanese version but his could also imply the turo we see is not the one from our timeline. I don’t know if it makes sense… or just a paradox 😅
He didnt even touch team star or like, the other half of the postgame quests my mans 😤
I think people just think in only one way, everyone thinks that Turo takes Pokémon from other future/past basedtimelines, but i think that he takes those Pokémon from timelines where every other dimensional versions of him ALREADY took them, and that's how those where created, the all story is a Paradox, and maybe he even encountered Terapagos himself and made a time loop to encounter heath and gave him the schematrixes to create the time machine, even the way you go to meet the professor is a paradox, you know where to go because of a note in the area below but in truth is beacuse of the player who got him to time travel
If you look at the computer screen after you beat arven befor going to area zero you see terapagos and tera orb info on the screen fun find!
Space and time you say? Newest raid mons? Palkia and Dialga. What do they specialize in? Space and time! Coincidence? I think not!
I like how no ones talking about that we essentially cause Arvens parents to die because we inspire them to pull miraidon/koraidon from the timeline
Regarding the “book exchange,” there is also the possibility that we are in an infinite regression from one timeline to another. As they say, *it’s turtles all the way down.*
Okay. So they pretty much went with the ‘Marvel Theory of the multiverse’, where you can get stuff from the past to the present, and in doing so, it won’t change *your* past, but it changes the future for the *original* timeline. Basically, you created *your own timeline*…
No matter what you say about Game Freak, they cared deeply about this game to the point where the events in this game could alter every single game in the future.
i froze for a second when i sneezed right at the part in which he says bless you