Many have questioned the Made in USA comment due to the Chinese Writing all over the stove, but my stove is clearly marked and stamped Made in USA, Wichita Kansas. My understanding is all 533s made (now discontinued) were made in Kansas. We actually do make some products to see in China as well LOL
With a full fuel tank, you need to pump 25 times before lighting, then light it, then after the yellow flame goes down, pump another 30 full pumps. Works like a charm every time. This stove is also 100% repairable, making it a lifetime purchase. 👍👍
Re: Carry Case. An empty Folgers coffee container fits Perfect! The 29oz size plastic container with the finger grooves in the side is the one you are looking for. The container lid also makes a perfect sized stove base to prevent the paint from scratching off the bottom of the stove and causing rust.
I think it's a good tip to paint the fuel cap a more visible color. It has no retention mechanism, is heavy and round and gray/green and if lost it leaves the stove useless.
I have used these types of stoves for years, favorite is feather 442, not feather weight, hehe. 2 things, 1st when closing the valve you don't need to "keep pressure" just remove your thumb and close, you want to release any risidual pressure in the pump, easier on the threads that way. Also, there is a check valve at the bottom of the pump, so you are not releasing pressure from the tank anyway. 2nd, and maybe this is just me but when lighting these it seems to work better,"less dramatic", if you put lighter on burner first , then open the valve, much less fireball that way. Anyway, I like when you do these older tech stoves.
Bought mine (Peak One!) in 1982. Expensive for me then. Best choice ever. I’ve used since then. While other people’s small stoves were trouble, mine always worked. Fire paste was good for preheat. A few years ago it couldn’t keep pressure. My heart was broken. With research I found it was the check valve that failed after decades. So I bought new valve and the tool to replace it. A lot of liquid wrench and grunting later, my Baby was back and making popcorn in the backyard.
This brings back good memories while making me chuckle at the "good- enough" philosopy of many American manufacturers. This stove performs exactly like the main burner in my Dad's old Coleman 2-burner white gas stove that he bought in the 60s. I see that same 2-burner stove sold new here in Japan and not thing with it has changed. I understand the time-tested "if it's not broke don't fix it" philosopy; however, not making a single improvement in 60 years should raise a few eyebrows. Just sayin.
Ernie, just a heads up. White gas is Unleaded gas that doesn't have the other additives that are combined in auto fuel gasoline. Back in the day, lead was one of those additives and the fuel from the pump couldn't be used in the stove. Now that all gasoline is unleaded, all the older stoves can burn it as well as white gas. Because white gas doesn't have alcohol or injector cleaning solvents added to it, it will burn a little cleaner in a Coleman stove and that will reduce some routine maintenance requirements, but make no mistake, it is gasoline in every other sense of the word and is absolutely as volatile as unleaded auto fuel. Treat it exactly with the care and caution that you do fuel for your car. I got the impression that you felt more comfortable with white gas because it is somehow safer, but it isn't and I don't want you or your channel going up in smoke. Stay safe and healthy.
@@frustratedmajority851 Afaik practically indefinitely. I've got a bottle that got to be at least 20 years old and then some and it's still regular white gas.
We had one of these per two man team in the Marine Corps. I made 4 trips to Greenland and we skied out on the Ice cap for weeks at a time and this stove stood up and did everything we needed it to do! You can bet your life on it!😊
I've been using the 533 for about 15 years on every off-road trip I make. Has never failed me. I prefer the dual fuel one over the butane stoves any day, especially in colder situations. Mine came with a plastic cover which is very sturdy. I only have used unleaded fuel with it so far as it is always nearby when I 4x4.
We just bought a couple of those burners last year for our Venturer Scouts. I have used one of the other style Colemans since I was 10years old, 72 now.
You can boil 48 oz of water (1.5 quarts) in 11 minutes using a #10 can hobo stove burning yellow pine (clean pallet wood) at 800 feet elevation with 69F starting temperature.
I’ve had one for 20+ years and its been along for every truck, canoe, atv, and equestrian camping trip. Never a single issue with it. Pairs very well with the mantle lanterns (same fuel). Fuel is cheap for the burn time, readily available everywhere, and doesn’t seem to go bad with age like gasoline does. The only drawback is all of it requires a little funnel for refilling and they’re easy to overflow. One of the cool things is how the fuel turns into a vapor as it passes through the hot copper, but you have to give it a minute until the copper is hot, then it’ll burn clean blue vs the huge yellow fireball you get at first. Be wary though, white gas volatility isn’t much different than gasoline, don’t mistake it for having kerosene/diesel slow burn qualities and think you can jumpstart a big ol campfire with it… it’ll blow up in an instant like gasoline, same for its fumes. Treat it like gasoline.
That's a good reminder. I treat gasoline with the utmost respect and sometimes more casual with white fuel. Vapor explosions are real and must be respected.
Ernie- thank you for reviewing this stove. There are many reasons to appreciate this Coleman Stove however one of my favorite reasons is the following: less waste going into the landfill. The conveniences are high for canister stoves but the amount of waste due to tossing the canisters hurts my heart. I am a truck camper. I realize the weight of this Coleman stove would be an issue for backpackers. I have found this stove to be a real winner. I have found the carrying case to be a real plus in order to keep it clean and undamaged. I also keep a lighter tucked in the carrying case with it. Many thanks to you for your continued exploration on our behalf and the support you get from your family in these pursuits. -Carl
Thought I had one of these in a red plastic Folgers coffee can. Sure enough, haven’t used it in 5 years. Still had white gas under pressure, fired right up. Amaze ballz!
My all-time favorite of this type is the 508. This was the last of the two valve designs of this type. The two valves (one for liquid, one for vapor) gave excellent flame control. The 508a went to the single red handle valve control. Good 508s are available on eBay, but have gone up over the last couple of years. By the way, if you buy on eBay be VERY carefully to properly identify the stove. Some sellers will label a 508a as a 508.
Greetings from Norway. Nice on! This is the stove I used over here in the winter for years. It's a tank, you can really trust it. If anyone follow J. Baird, you can see him and his brother use a Coleman similar to this on their latest adventure.
My 1st stove was a Coleman Multifuel. Which weighs a little less than that one. I bought it about 30+ years ago. I store my stove in a OR padded cube that fits it perfectly. One thing you never talk about in your videos is that some stoves are designed to hold larger pots. I'd like to see you do a 2 quart boil test and see how some stoves do with that. As a guy who has been backpacking for years one thing that has changed is that backpacking used to be more group oriented and all the gear you would buy would be for stuff that could work for a group. Now it's more solo based. That Coleman stove is really designed for a large pot that can cook food for 2-3 people at one time.
Excellent review thanks. I just bought one today. I have been traveling the US in my camper van for a little over a year now and with winter coming again, I wanted to have one of these. In the 1960s my family and I went across the US in a tent trailer and My Dad had one of these stoves. It never let us down. I always enjoy your videos, thanks.
HI ERNIE…A few months ago I got lucky and found the Military version of this stove brand new from an Army surplus store located in Chicago since about 1948 and they also have an internet store.The reason I like the Military version better is because it comes with an extra fuel jet that allows you to use Diesel or Kerosene instead of gasoline type of fuels…much safer because of that option. I have yet to fire it up but after seeing your wonderful video I think that I will light her up soon! Always enjoy your reviews and in the field tests! I just saw one of the other comments about using a plastic Folgers coffee container for a carry case…A great idea and I like Folgers coffee to boot!👍
I have a very similar model I've had since the early 90s. With mine you pressurize the tank and light the stove as you show in this video, but then you're supposed to pump the pressure up another 20 pumps. You certainly can't blow out the flame like you do in the video, and you have better flame control. I'm curious when/why they changed the instructions. Thanks for the review.
I had a Peak One stove back in the early 1980s. I sold it when MSR came out with the XGK, and sold that when they came out with the Whisperlite. The Whisperlite was a little over 12 oz. minus the remote tank. I bought both the 22 fl.oz. and the 11 fl.oz. tanks. I hardly ever used the 22, as my trips in winter were usually just weekend trips, and the stove, like all burners, was much more efficient in warmer weather. I still have the Whisperlite, but have learned to use alcohol somewhat efficiently in colder weather. I replaced the pump in my Whisperlite a couple of years ago, and it worked like new. I would suggest the new version for you to test. P.s. The International version also uses Kerosene, which may be of interest to prospective users in other countries. There is an expanded kit version which can also use pressurized propane/butane canisters.
Great videos Ernie. You have continued where Hiram Cook left off. I've had a 533 for over 25 years also. I love it for winter time in western NY. I carry mine in an empty plastic Folgers coffee container with a snap lid. It's not meant to be carried loose in a bag, as it does not play well with others inside a pack...many sharp edges and a valve that's easy to accidentally turn on. The plastic Folgers "can" fits the bill to keep things squared away and safe. I have had Coleman fuel in mine for years. It doesn't seem to go bad.
way late here, but been using one of these for decades, below zero and above 5K in elevation and they are truly bomb-proof. Takes a bit for them to stabilize when it's cold, but it works. It helps if you have a way to heat the generator, (the gold tube on top running through the flame) prior to lighting, it's not necessary. As many have said, you can carry it in a Folgers can, the 25.9 oz one fits well, but the bigger ones will allow you to store a small pot or pan in there as well for a "cook kit". Love this thing for power outages and car camping. The only true draw back to them is the fiddly nature of the "simmer" mode :)
I’ve had mine for 16, years since Hurricane Katrina. I live in Louisiana too. I love my Coleman 533 Sportster II. I paid $25 for it at Walmart back in ‘05. It wasn’t my first gasoline stove my any measure, but it was my first single burner. Mine doesn’t look as good as you new one but it still works as well. I used it during Hurricane Laura and Delta aftermath last year and the ice storm of February 2021. Sometimes I use it for making coffee in back yard or for making sauces when I barbecue or grill. Nice review. Liquid fuel stoves, (white gas / unleaded) are environmentally friendly because there are no canisters to throw away especially when using gasoline. It will burn gasoline just fine. In hurricane aftermath gasoline will be easier to come by than white gas, propane, butane etc. So it does have its uses her in Louisiana, a state ravished by six hurricanes in 12 months time last year, in addition to floods and a record freeze. Good review.
I have 2 of these, one from Amazon, one from EBay that came with the case, one stays in my trailer in Baja, when it gets hot I do all my cooking outside as to not heat up the place thus I use it constantly, the second one is for camping. Great dependable stoves, I don’t have any issues simmering, the valve works perfectly. I use only white gas, Walmart has another brand much cheaper than Coleman gas and is the same. In a pinch is nice to know I can siphon gas from my car although that’ll be only in an emergency. The Coleman gas lantern is great as well, gives more light than propane, cheaper and lasts a long time on one tank. I love my stoves but then I have a stove problem just like you. Lol
White gas is great for winter time. I still have a Peak One from 1993 and an Ebay Exponent stove from a few years back (basically all the same...just different paint colors and different feet). I've found some cool cases on eBay through UK vendors who make different soft side zipper cases for various fishing gear. It works great. Only maintenance/repair I had to do to my old 1993 stove last year was to adjust the pump innards to get it to seal up again for building/maintaining tank pressure and to adjust the brass valve mechanism with some JB weld to seal up any air pressure leaks (although mostly it was the pump causing the issues, I did it anyway.). Overall, not a bad stove. Not the lightest, but doable. I like my MSR whisper lite for winter use probably the most, and my old Svea as well for a compact all-in-one unit. But Coleman can still rock it with the big boys sometimes. ;)
Very similar to my 30 year old Peak 1 Feather 442, minus the "lunar lander" fold out feet. I've always used unleaded gasoline instead of white gas. Great little stoves!
@@blacksheep6821 I have only used unleaded gas. Hardly ever cleaned it but I did replace the generator this year. Maybe I would not have needed to if I used white gas? Who knows?
The Coleman 533 is my emergency stove for power outages. It's simple, compact, and will work with larger pots and pans. My complaint is the same as yours: it doesn't come with a case, but it definitely should! I think this stove was originally made for the WW2 effort.
Its box type case is 4 litre. Twice than needed. I have military Coleman peak 1 and its round type case size is 2 litre. Some small bucket with lid, works.
I’ve used mine at 15 below zero F., I use fire ribbon to preheat the burner and a full windscreen around it but it works fine once it’s lit and adjusted. Great stoves.
I bought mine about 25 years ago..it came with a small case that contains the stove and fuel filter. I use it almost every week while camping, usually one tank of fuel, and it is still going strong, only ever used unleaded in it.
I have a 25 year old Peak1 stove that still works like new. Smaller than the 533 so more compact for backpacking but weighty. Love the channel keep an coming!
I got both... the peak one needs new rings as it leaks alot. But bought the peak 1 with a military one and a old 502 i think for a few dollars each the 233 i bought for 20... best money spent.
@@semperfi-1918 I just changed the rings in mine, it was fast and easy. You will find all the ones you need in the Viton kit (67525) from Harbor Freight.
I wasn't in the market for one of these but was aware of just how awesome they are. My goto backpacking stove was a Soto Muka. This baby doesn't require priming but you're going to get a workout pumping this thing to get it going. But once it's going. I swear it's burning hotter than any other stove I've ever used. With my standard sized jetboil mug full of iced water i got it boiling in 2 mins 11secs. One day. I was at Ross and saw a brand new 533 sitting on a clearance shelf for $25. Sure, the 533 doesn't burn as hot but it works beautifully. Its wider flame, works much better with a pot. I got some 50-60 degree water to boil in a great 3:25. I still will use the Muka as my goto backpacking stove but may carry this 533 in its place for a few car camping trips to mainly boil water.
I have several Coleman stoves, heaters, and lanterns, and I have the 533. I use the 533 for my coffee pot mainly, or to boil a large amount of water at one time. I have cooked on it, and it did a great job. In cold weather, it is a nice heat source to enjoy while making coffee outside, and an aluminum wind screen, either fabricated from aluminum foil, or a store bought with aluminum panels, just increases the heating factor, and radiation of heat. I love it.
I bought a Coleman 2 burner dual fuel stove and lantern back in the early 1990s for home emergency use. I am not afraid to use unleaded gasoline, I use a .5 gallon container to fill them and 2 gallon can for storage. After each winter and hurricane season, the unused gas goes in my truck.
i have this stove and I go car camping with my wife and bring dirt bikes with us. I have only used gasoline in this stove with unleaded gasoline since I always have a gas can for the dirt bikes. Never had a problem with gasoline. I also use gasoline in the fuel fuel lantern ln by Coleman and still never had any issues. I trust the gasoline in it.
Thumbs up video! I have the same stove but have not used it yet. Using an alcohol stove presently. Cool that you showed the 'night shot' of the flames. 🔥
Back in the '60s, my grandparents gave me their old single-burner Coleman stove. I used that thing for years. About a month ago, I put some white gas into it and lit it up. It still works perfectly! All the parts are the originals. Nothing leaks, nothing's stuck. The only thing I ever did to it was to add a small sheet metal wind screen around 3 sides of the burner. This one's a lot bigger and heavier than the new model. I wouldn't hesitate to take it out on the deck and use it, if the power went out. It will work well with the old folding oven.
Absolutely great review. I watched 6 or 7 other reviews on this stove, looking for the weight. And you are the ONLY one to give the dimensions and weight of the stove!! I had one of the old green white gas model 508 back in the 80's. Sold it, and I kick myself in the butt every time I think about it!! Great stove and one tank of fuel will easily last a weekend trip!! I am going to have to get me another one. Currently use the iso-butane pocket rocket. But I am looking at grabbing another one of these because they are rock solid and easily repaired!
The Coleman 4 person camp pot is a great carry case. The 533 fits right into the pot with the lid on. I put the stove in that pot when I need to get going and don't want a hot stove to worry about.
I used one of those Colemans decades ago on trail and used white gas. if i were to use another one like it today it would be the MSR multi fuel so i could also burn kerosene. Cool vid!
I’ve used one for many years and never had a problem. For base camping, if you can find an old Sigg Tourist cookset (now an antique) the stoves fit perfectly for carry. Some Sigg models were actually made specifically to store the Coleman stoves and include a windscreen.I always seal up the stove with a ziploc or plastic before storing it in the cookware.
Naphtha does have a higher flash point temperature, but realistically at room temp it is actually more volatile with a lower, lower explosive limit of 1.2% by volume to air, than gasoline with a lower explosive limit of 1.4% and a much lower vapour pressure, your fear of gasoline is unwarranted based on any explosive effect. and gasoline is about 1/8th the price and is even more widely available.
You didnt mention one of the biggest strengths and that is you can always fill it up to full before you leave and unlike other stoves you rarely need to bring a fuel canister.
Yes. Two night/three day backpacking? Top it off and that’s it. Usually a good amount still left. Longer trips or more people cooking with it, Id bring a very small amount of white gas separate as well.
I have used the Coleman Peak 1 Feather dual fuel for years and absolutely love it. Very reliable and fool proof. And I’ve also successfully managed to use kerosene in it. Love, love this stove
I had a Coleman 505B for many years, and it was great. But on The Long Trail, developed a fuel leak, so I traded for a Svea 123 at The Mountain Goat. Both were awesome stoves.
I got the dual fuel lantern and stove. I only run 87 octane gasoline in them. It's cool cause I run a little Honda 2.3hp 4 stroke outboard on my ten foot john boat and I can camp, hunt, fish for a week on one gallon of gas.
Thank you for how simple you kept this information and also shared both the pros and cons of this stove. I just bought mine and because of you, I am going to give this it's first run tomorrow. You have a real knack for this and even though I knew nothing about you prior to this, I look forward in watching your other unbiased but factual reviews of products. Thanks again!!
My first backpacking stove from way back is the Coleman Feather 400 Peak 1 . Had to replace the seal for the pump last year . Bombproof stove even of a bit heavy for backpacking . My stove for choice when the temps plummet . Mine has the small base for fuel therefore was sold as a backpacking unit . It came with a sack and the only issue I ever had was once the valve was bumped and the fuel was sprayed out a little and the sack was damp from the fuel . Amazing stove to be still useable after 30 ish years ? Mine is the white gas version . The 442 is multi fuel I believe . Thanks for the review .
Wow I got the same stove and I got it about 20 years ago for around $24 on clearance at Walmart. I have a Peak 1 that I picked up at a pawn shop for $45 and it came with the square pots case. GOD Bless you and your families
Have a 533 and when I bought it, it came with a square plastic case. Works great and super reliable. Use it often but not suitable for backpacking, too heavy.
I have one and also the two burner dual fuel box stove they are great. Unleaded gas is dirty and you may have to clean the stove up don’t leave it in the tank for long term storage. They work and are safe with gasoline we won WWII with a version of it and regular gasoline. Have fun on your travels and stay safe.
Thanks Ernie. I'm not big into white gas stoves either. We used to carry one in our tracked personal carrier in the Army... they got the job done with the canned C-rations, for sure. We were constantly having to repair ours... and it would seem to break just before you would go to heat up the old meat and potato slices!
I just bought the SVEA 123R after watching your video, so I have to save up for this one now. That SVEA sure is expensive! I would have given this stove a try first because it is less expensive.
Pretty much the only difference is the size pot you can use and fuel capacity. You already have the small version for camping, and you can get one of the suitcase double burner liquid fuel stoves for the house. This stove is more of an in between if you ask me. Not as good at either job, but it CAN do both.
Yes, the SVEA is more expensive. It is however of a simpler design with less moving parts and thus less to go wrong with it and also has a pedigree going way back. Its half the weight of the Coleman and with the little pot, is its own container. I have it's cousin, the Optimus 8R Hunter (which has the same burner) and in over 40 years have only replaced the Graphite Seal in the Burner Control Stuffing Box and the Gasket in the Fuel Tank Cap / Pressure Release Valve. You have made a very good buy with the SVEA 123R.
I like the older Peak One, with the separate flame adjustment lever--it simmers really well! My camping buddy (this is a few years ago) bought the newer multi fuel stove--and it doesn't simmer well at all. With an aluminum simmer plate, it works a bit better. I do proper cooking when I'm camping--I don't just boil water for coffee or dehydrated food--so simmering ability is key! I analyse wood burning stoves by the same criteria--so some small wood gasifier stoves don't make the cut for the same reason.
I have my 1942 Coleman from WW2. Same basic design and works the same way. What is cool is the WW2 stove has folding feet as it's more narrow and taller than my Peak1 from the early 80s and both came with a carry case/pots.
This is my 2nd viewing,,, Stinky,,,,???? I’ve used a lot of white gas Stoves,, and stinky is something I have never experienced. Solid fuel,,esbit ,,etc.,,, That’s Stinky !!!!! Great Video Ernie
It reminds me of my MSR Whisperlite, both in flame pattern and performance. All stoves I've seen that has the regulator on the liquid side has troubles with fine control. It's difficult to make a valve for such small amounts as you'll need for liquid fuels, and that's it. I guess it helps avoid turbulence near the hole, at the very least. So that it doesn't flutter. You can carry a small stove like a Trangia on the side if you want to simmer, while this will take the snow melting. The burner head with many, slightly long channels out of a wide head, is also similar. It gives fuel and air space to mix properly at low speed, so that it doesn't have to "roar". So while it's not the best for small pots it's appreciated. And, I guess it's about as light it can be for what it is. Having the fuel tank on the side is weight as well. My biggest question is, how much snow can you melt on that tank?
I used to burn my 508a indoors a lot. I love that thing it has a wonderful simmer. Even after yrs of burning it barely ever needs any maintenance or cleaning. I've had that thing since about '88. It used to be my backpacking stove back in the day. There is currently a case like the one my 508 came in, on ebay for around 30 bucks though.
The white gas rates about 70 octane and unleaded gas at the pump is around 87 octane. Therefore it is more volatile at 70. Octane is the non-burnability of the gas. Your gasoline needs to be less volatile the more compression your engine has. That's why high compression engines need 92 octane (Like my Vespa).
I have had a Coleman #508 (very similar to this one)since the mid 1980s.It lived at base camp several miles back in a cave for a year or more. It was great to have warm food and drink after exploring a long cave, sometimes 24 hour trips away from base camp. It never let us down ,but it did start to rust where the paint had gotten scraped(around the bottom) These things are like you said bomb proof ,but heavy.
I have a similar Coleman (Peak Featherweight) from 1990, that still works really well. It was actually stored for about 10yrs with fuel in the tank and started right up. It sputtered for a couple minutes but then settled out. On week long backpacking trips, I would take a full stove plus extra and rarely needed to add any fuel to the stove..
In England I buy 'Panel-Wipe', which is white-gas. I have no need to use 'unleaded'. Given the amount of car-specific additives that are suspected to clog the generator faster that is my personal choice. I just bought a 533 in the carry-case. The far-older brother, the 502 has a smaller burner. Mine is that old the fount was marked for the 501. That was a 'train wreck'. It prompted a product recall due to serious design flaws. that may be better at doing 'simmer'. All silent-burner stoves have susceptibility to winds. A roarer burner deals with wind better, however as the name suggests they are anti-social. At 6:00 am on a busy camp-ground nobody will thank you for starting what seems like a small gas-turbine.
Ernie, I may have a solution to the simmering problem. Lots of RUclips videos say to pump the tank up again after the stove is lit. BUT, there a couple of videos that point out the Coleman's instructions say to add pressure ONLY when the flame shutters or turns yellow. If the tank pressure it too high, you won't get a decent simmer. [ I can't test this because the only two Coleman stoves I have at the moment are a 530 and a 425E. The 530 has two settings: all the way on or all the way off, and the 425 has several turns worth of adjustment on the valve...]
I have tried the same on the MSR Whisperlite, which has much the same burner. And it only works to a certain degree. Reason being, it only takes a slight wisp of a wind to blow it out at low heat. And with just a little breeze around you, you can’t keep that out even with a wind screen all around. I can turn my Whisperlite low enough to fry pancakes, but that’s about the limit.
I’ve owned the Coleman Apex II Multi-fuel stove for decades. Too heavy to hike with normally, but for car camping or for emergency use it is fantastic. Mine runs on: White Gas, Unleaded, Kerosene, Diesel, and even Jet Fuel (Jet A)
I've had a couple of these Colmans and really relied upon them. I always feared the pumps giving out, but after years of use never had a problem. I also like the SVEA as it has no pump to fail. All in all these stoves a great, but can be dangerous if not careful. Thanks for another great video and hope to see more of these stoves reviewed.
One advantage of these liquid fuel stoves is that the running costs can be cheaper for long camping/hiking trips, even with Coleman fuel/white gas/Crown fuel/naptha. Also, the fuel is easily available even in small towns & villages, from the hardware shop or gas station. Hard to find hiking gas canisters in small towns and if you do, they'll usually be expensive. I use the 533 and have tried the MSRs. Personally, I prefer the 533 although it's significantly heavier. The stove components are more robust. It comes as one unit, and so it doesn't need assembling & disassembling before/after use. And it doesn't need priming, except in very cold weather.
That’s one of the things I like about, Ernie. You’re such a selfless guy. Always thinking us, the subscriber, when purchasing and testing new equipment, and risking your marriage in the process. You should be recommended for sainthood.
Yeah I can attest to the Peak 1 version at 10,000 feet in the snow in February using white gas up at the base of Peak One in Summit County, Colorado. It also helps to light a bit of fire ribbon (gel paste) on the burner to pre-heat it.
No need preheating is best in that Coleman serie. It make it easy to use like gas stoves. Remember pointing that with them. Noise level is equal with gas stoves or better. The friction mat undet it, make more easy to pump its pressure, when it hot.
Yes, haha. Same here in Oregon. People come to hike mountain trails in June and are surprised to find the trails still covered in snow, or in August that water left in pots of frozen in the morning or an afternoon rain will suddenly turn to snowflakes.
Many have questioned the Made in USA comment due to the Chinese Writing all over the stove, but my stove is clearly marked and stamped Made in USA, Wichita Kansas. My understanding is all 533s made (now discontinued) were made in Kansas. We actually do make some products to see in China as well LOL
Yep, not available anymore.
@@XJarhead360 Coleman is currently selling new 533's if you go to their site
With a full fuel tank, you need to pump 25 times before lighting, then light it, then after the yellow flame goes down, pump another 30 full pumps. Works like a charm every time. This stove is also 100% repairable, making it a lifetime purchase. 👍👍
WHAT! ..........you like stoves Ernie ! 🔥👌
Re: Carry Case. An empty Folgers coffee container fits Perfect! The 29oz size plastic container with the finger grooves in the side is the one you are looking for. The container lid also makes a perfect sized stove base to prevent the paint from scratching off the bottom of the stove and causing rust.
Haha I literally came to comment this almost exactly as soon as he said he was looking for a case.
I think it's a good tip to paint the fuel cap a more visible color. It has no retention mechanism, is heavy and round and gray/green and if lost it leaves the stove useless.
Thank you for this suggestion. Should I lose the Coleman plastic case, I will try this Folgers coffee can approach in the future. -Carl
Thank you
Yep, did that also.
I have used these types of stoves for years, favorite is feather 442, not feather weight, hehe. 2 things, 1st when closing the valve you don't need to "keep pressure" just remove your thumb and close, you want to release any risidual pressure in the pump, easier on the threads that way. Also, there is a check valve at the bottom of the pump, so you are not releasing pressure from the tank anyway. 2nd, and maybe this is just me but when lighting these it seems to work better,"less dramatic", if you put lighter on burner first , then open the valve, much less fireball that way. Anyway, I like when you do these older tech stoves.
Love my 400!
Bought mine (Peak One!) in 1982. Expensive for me then. Best choice ever. I’ve used since then. While other people’s small stoves were trouble, mine always worked. Fire paste was good for preheat. A few years ago it couldn’t keep pressure. My heart was broken. With research I found it was the check valve that failed after decades. So I bought new valve and the tool to replace it. A lot of liquid wrench and grunting later, my Baby was back and making popcorn in the backyard.
This brings back good memories while making me chuckle at the "good- enough" philosopy of many American manufacturers. This stove performs exactly like the main burner in my Dad's old Coleman 2-burner white gas stove that he bought in the 60s. I see that same 2-burner stove sold new here in Japan and not thing with it has changed. I understand the time-tested "if it's not broke don't fix it" philosopy; however, not making a single improvement in 60 years should raise a few eyebrows. Just sayin.
Wife .WHAT another stove!
Ernie, just a heads up. White gas is Unleaded gas that doesn't have the other additives that are combined in auto fuel gasoline. Back in the day, lead was one of those additives and the fuel from the pump couldn't be used in the stove. Now that all gasoline is unleaded, all the older stoves can burn it as well as white gas. Because white gas doesn't have alcohol or injector cleaning solvents added to it, it will burn a little cleaner in a Coleman stove and that will reduce some routine maintenance requirements, but make no mistake, it is gasoline in every other sense of the word and is absolutely as volatile as unleaded auto fuel. Treat it exactly with the care and caution that you do fuel for your car. I got the impression that you felt more comfortable with white gas because it is somehow safer, but it isn't and I don't want you or your channel going up in smoke. Stay safe and healthy.
Camp fuel is also interchangeable with lighter fluid for your Zippos.
How long will white gasoline store for?
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Afaik practically indefinitely.
I've got a bottle that got to be at least 20 years old and then some and it's still regular white gas.
We had one of these per two man team in the Marine Corps. I made 4 trips to Greenland and we skied out on the Ice cap for weeks at a time and this stove stood up and did everything we needed it to do! You can bet your life on it!😊
That’s a recommendation!
I've been using the 533 for about 15 years on every off-road trip I make. Has never failed me. I prefer the dual fuel one over the butane stoves any day, especially in colder situations. Mine came with a plastic cover which is very sturdy. I only have used unleaded fuel with it so far as it is always nearby when I 4x4.
We just bought a couple of those burners last year for our Venturer Scouts. I have used one of the other style Colemans since I was 10years old, 72 now.
I have had mine for a bit over 20 years, made my own cover and use it kayak camping. I luv this little guy.
My go to canoe camping stove for well over 30 years.👍
When I was a cub scout, we used #10 cans as stoves. We inverted them, punched holes in different places and used wood pieces.
You can boil 48 oz of water (1.5 quarts) in 11 minutes using a #10 can hobo stove burning yellow pine (clean pallet wood) at 800 feet elevation with 69F starting temperature.
I’ve had one for 20+ years and its been along for every truck, canoe, atv, and equestrian camping trip.
Never a single issue with it. Pairs very well with the mantle lanterns (same fuel). Fuel is cheap for the burn time, readily available everywhere, and doesn’t seem to go bad with age like gasoline does.
The only drawback is all of it requires a little funnel for refilling and they’re easy to overflow.
One of the cool things is how the fuel turns into a vapor as it passes through the hot copper, but you have to give it a minute until the copper is hot, then it’ll burn clean blue vs the huge yellow fireball you get at first.
Be wary though, white gas volatility isn’t much different than gasoline, don’t mistake it for having kerosene/diesel slow burn qualities and think you can jumpstart a big ol campfire with it… it’ll blow up in an instant like gasoline, same for its fumes.
Treat it like gasoline.
Can Kerosene or lamp oil be used in the Coleman dual fuel 533?
White gas actually is gasoline without all the additives the gasoline companies put in it for engines
That's a good reminder. I treat gasoline with the utmost respect and sometimes more casual with white fuel. Vapor explosions are real and must be respected.
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I bought 2 Coleman 533's due to your review. Thanks Ernie.
Ernie- thank you for reviewing this stove. There are many reasons to appreciate this Coleman Stove however one of my favorite reasons is the following: less waste going into the landfill. The conveniences are high for canister stoves but the amount of waste due to tossing the canisters hurts my heart. I am a truck camper. I realize the weight of this Coleman stove would be an issue for backpackers. I have found this stove to be a real winner. I have found the carrying case to be a real plus in order to keep it clean and undamaged. I also keep a lighter tucked in the carrying case with it. Many thanks to you for your continued exploration on our behalf and the support you get from your family in these pursuits. -Carl
Thought I had one of these in a red plastic Folgers coffee can. Sure enough, haven’t used it in 5 years. Still had white gas under pressure, fired right up. Amaze ballz!
Been using this stove for 10+ years. I with Colman hadn’t discontinued it.
My all-time favorite of this type is the 508. This was the last of the two valve designs of this type. The two valves (one for liquid, one for vapor) gave excellent flame control. The 508a went to the single red handle valve control. Good 508s are available on eBay, but have gone up over the last couple of years. By the way, if you buy on eBay be VERY carefully to properly identify the stove. Some sellers will label a 508a as a 508.
Totally agree about the 508
I picked a 508 on the fact of the excellent dual control you have. It's amazing and I cannot reccomend it enough.
Greetings from Norway. Nice on! This is the stove I used over here in the winter for years. It's a tank, you can really trust it. If anyone follow J. Baird, you can see him and his brother use a Coleman similar to this on their latest adventure.
My 1st stove was a Coleman Multifuel. Which weighs a little less than that one. I bought it about 30+ years ago. I store my stove in a OR padded cube that fits it perfectly. One thing you never talk about in your videos is that some stoves are designed to hold larger pots. I'd like to see you do a 2 quart boil test and see how some stoves do with that. As a guy who has been backpacking for years one thing that has changed is that backpacking used to be more group oriented and all the gear you would buy would be for stuff that could work for a group. Now it's more solo based. That Coleman stove is really designed for a large pot that can cook food for 2-3 people at one time.
Good to know !
New England guy here and I love to take my 90s version for short day hikes in the winter.
Excellent review thanks. I just bought one today. I have been traveling the US in my camper van for a little over a year now and with winter coming again, I wanted to have one of these. In the 1960s my family and I went across the US in a tent trailer and My Dad had one of these stoves. It never let us down. I always enjoy your videos, thanks.
HI ERNIE…A few months ago I got lucky and found the Military version of this stove brand new from an Army surplus store located in Chicago since about 1948 and they also have an internet store.The reason I like the Military version better is because it comes with an extra fuel jet that allows you to use Diesel or Kerosene instead of gasoline type of fuels…much safer because of that option. I have yet to fire it up but after seeing your wonderful video I think that I will light her up soon! Always enjoy your reviews and in the field tests! I just saw one of the other comments about using a plastic Folgers coffee container for a carry case…A great idea and I like Folgers coffee to boot!👍
Could you provide the internet address for the surplus store that you purchased your stove from? Thank you.
That's imperative.
I don't want to be tied to Coleman.
If you run out diesel then the world's finished anyway
I’ve had one of these since 1996. I have recently been running it on Alkalyte fuel. So much better,hotter,cleaner burn.👍🏾🇬🇧
I have a very similar model I've had since the early 90s. With mine you pressurize the tank and light the stove as you show in this video, but then you're supposed to pump the pressure up another 20 pumps. You certainly can't blow out the flame like you do in the video, and you have better flame control. I'm curious when/why they changed the instructions. Thanks for the review.
I had a Peak One stove back in the early 1980s. I sold it when MSR came out with the XGK, and sold that when they came out with the Whisperlite. The Whisperlite was a little over 12 oz. minus the remote tank. I bought both the 22 fl.oz. and the 11 fl.oz. tanks. I hardly ever used the 22, as my trips in winter were usually just weekend trips, and the stove, like all burners, was much more efficient in warmer weather.
I still have the Whisperlite, but have learned to use alcohol somewhat efficiently in colder weather. I replaced the pump in my Whisperlite a couple of years ago, and it worked like new.
I would suggest the new version for you to test.
P.s. The International version also uses Kerosene, which may be of interest to prospective users in other countries.
There is an expanded kit version which can also use pressurized propane/butane canisters.
Great videos Ernie. You have continued where Hiram Cook left off. I've had a 533 for over 25 years also. I love it for winter time in western NY. I carry mine in an empty plastic Folgers coffee container with a snap lid. It's not meant to be carried loose in a bag, as it does not play well with others inside a pack...many sharp edges and a valve that's easy to accidentally turn on. The plastic Folgers "can" fits the bill to keep things squared away and safe. I have had Coleman fuel in mine for years. It doesn't seem to go bad.
way late here, but been using one of these for decades, below zero and above 5K in elevation and they are truly bomb-proof. Takes a bit for them to stabilize when it's cold, but it works. It helps if you have a way to heat the generator, (the gold tube on top running through the flame) prior to lighting, it's not necessary. As many have said, you can carry it in a Folgers can, the 25.9 oz one fits well, but the bigger ones will allow you to store a small pot or pan in there as well for a "cook kit". Love this thing for power outages and car camping. The only true draw back to them is the fiddly nature of the "simmer" mode :)
I’ve had mine for 16, years since Hurricane Katrina. I live in Louisiana too. I love my Coleman 533 Sportster II. I paid $25 for it at Walmart back in ‘05. It wasn’t my first gasoline stove my any measure, but it was my first single burner. Mine doesn’t look as good as you new one but it still works as well. I used it during Hurricane Laura and Delta aftermath last year and the ice storm of February 2021. Sometimes I use it for making coffee in back yard or for making sauces when I barbecue or grill. Nice review. Liquid fuel stoves, (white gas / unleaded) are environmentally friendly because there are no canisters to throw away especially when using gasoline. It will burn gasoline just fine. In hurricane aftermath gasoline will be easier to come by than white gas, propane, butane etc.
So it does have its uses her in Louisiana, a state ravished by six hurricanes in 12 months time last year, in addition to floods and a record freeze.
Good review.
I have 2 of these, one from Amazon, one from EBay that came with the case, one stays in my trailer in Baja, when it gets hot I do all my cooking outside as to not heat up the place thus I use it constantly, the second one is for camping. Great dependable stoves, I don’t have any issues simmering, the valve works perfectly. I use only white gas, Walmart has another brand much cheaper than Coleman gas and is the same. In a pinch is nice to know I can siphon gas from my car although that’ll be only in an emergency. The Coleman gas lantern is great as well, gives more light than propane, cheaper and lasts a long time on one tank. I love my stoves but then I have a stove problem just like you. Lol
White gas is great for winter time. I still have a Peak One from 1993 and an Ebay Exponent stove from a few years back (basically all the same...just different paint colors and different feet). I've found some cool cases on eBay through UK vendors who make different soft side zipper cases for various fishing gear. It works great.
Only maintenance/repair I had to do to my old 1993 stove last year was to adjust the pump innards to get it to seal up again for building/maintaining tank pressure and to adjust the brass valve mechanism with some JB weld to seal up any air pressure leaks (although mostly it was the pump causing the issues, I did it anyway.).
Overall, not a bad stove. Not the lightest, but doable. I like my MSR whisper lite for winter use probably the most, and my old Svea as well for a compact all-in-one unit. But Coleman can still rock it with the big boys sometimes. ;)
Very similar to my 30 year old Peak 1 Feather 442, minus the "lunar lander" fold out feet. I've always used unleaded gasoline instead of white gas. Great little stoves!
Do you notice any difference between the two types of gas?
@@blacksheep6821 I have only used unleaded gas. Hardly ever cleaned it but I did replace the generator this year. Maybe I would not have needed to if I used white gas? Who knows?
The Coleman 533 is my emergency stove for power outages. It's simple, compact, and will work with larger pots and pans. My complaint is the same as yours: it doesn't come with a case, but it definitely should! I think this stove was originally made for the WW2 effort.
Its box type case is 4 litre. Twice than needed. I have military Coleman peak 1 and its round type case size is 2 litre. Some small bucket with lid, works.
Had one for years , most reliable cooker , been alround Scandinavia and Europe , only smokes with old fuel , padded fishing tackle bag perfect fit.
I’ve used mine at 15 below zero F., I use fire ribbon to preheat the burner and a full windscreen around it but it works fine once it’s lit and adjusted. Great stoves.
I bought mine about 25 years ago..it came with a small case that contains the stove and fuel filter. I use it almost every week while camping, usually one tank of fuel, and it is still going strong, only ever used unleaded in it.
I have a 25 year old Peak1 stove that still works like new. Smaller than the 533 so more compact for backpacking but weighty.
Love the channel keep an coming!
I got both... the peak one needs new rings as it leaks alot. But bought the peak 1 with a military one and a old 502 i think for a few dollars each the 233 i bought for 20... best money spent.
@@semperfi-1918 I just changed the rings in mine, it was fast and easy. You will find all the ones you need in the Viton kit (67525) from Harbor Freight.
I wasn't in the market for one of these but was aware of just how awesome they are. My goto backpacking stove was a Soto Muka. This baby doesn't require priming but you're going to get a workout pumping this thing to get it going. But once it's going. I swear it's burning hotter than any other stove I've ever used. With my standard sized jetboil mug full of iced water i got it boiling in 2 mins 11secs. One day. I was at Ross and saw a brand new 533 sitting on a clearance shelf for $25. Sure, the 533 doesn't burn as hot but it works beautifully. Its wider flame, works much better with a pot. I got some 50-60 degree water to boil in a great 3:25. I still will use the Muka as my goto backpacking stove but may carry this 533 in its place for a few car camping trips to mainly boil water.
I have several Coleman stoves, heaters, and lanterns, and I have the 533. I use the 533 for my coffee pot mainly, or to boil a large amount of water at one time. I have cooked on it, and it did a great job. In cold weather, it is a nice heat source to enjoy while making coffee outside, and an aluminum wind screen, either fabricated from aluminum foil, or a store bought with aluminum panels, just increases the heating factor, and radiation of heat. I love it.
I bought a Coleman 2 burner dual fuel stove and lantern back in the early 1990s for home emergency use.
I am not afraid to use unleaded gasoline, I use a .5 gallon container to fill them and 2 gallon can for storage. After each winter and hurricane season, the unused gas goes in my truck.
Thanks, Walmart is selling these again. I just bought one I had one for over 20 years loved it almost as much as my MSR whisper light international.
i have this stove and I go car camping with my wife and bring dirt bikes with us. I have only used gasoline in this stove with unleaded gasoline since I always have a gas can for the dirt bikes. Never had a problem with gasoline. I also use gasoline in the fuel fuel lantern ln by Coleman and still never had any issues. I trust the gasoline in it.
Thumbs up video! I have the same stove but have not used it yet. Using an alcohol stove presently. Cool that you showed the 'night shot' of the flames. 🔥
Back in the '60s, my grandparents gave me their old single-burner Coleman stove. I used that thing for years. About a month ago, I put some white gas into it and lit it up. It still works perfectly! All the parts are the originals. Nothing leaks, nothing's stuck. The only thing I ever did to it was to add a small sheet metal wind screen around 3 sides of the burner. This one's a lot bigger and heavier than the new model. I wouldn't hesitate to take it out on the deck and use it, if the power went out. It will work well with the old folding oven.
I bought mine in 1999, and it has been my go to winter stove. I live in Michigan, so winter can be brutal, and the 533 never lets me down!
Best line of the review: 1:19 "Much to my wife's chagrin."
Coleman 502, that’s where it’s at.
I've got one, built in 1985, it my go to stove
I own two... great canoe, or sled, or base camp stove. It is the best for group (non hike) stove. Hello Ernie!
Grew up using Coleman stoves. Had two of these single burner stoves years ago, loved them.
Absolutely great review. I watched 6 or 7 other reviews on this stove, looking for the weight. And you are the ONLY one to give the dimensions and weight of the stove!! I had one of the old green white gas model 508 back in the 80's. Sold it, and I kick myself in the butt every time I think about it!! Great stove and one tank of fuel will easily last a weekend trip!! I am going to have to get me another one. Currently use the iso-butane pocket rocket. But I am looking at grabbing another one of these because they are rock solid and easily repaired!
I bought a Coleman 502, an older version of this stove at a garage sale for 5 bucks. Works just fine.
The Coleman 4 person camp pot is a great carry case. The 533 fits right into the pot with the lid on. I put the stove in that pot when I need to get going and don't want a hot stove to worry about.
I love my Coleman 425. I'd love to have one of these, but, I'm pretty sure my wife is going to kill me one of these days if I buy another stove.
I used one of those Colemans decades ago on trail and used white gas. if i were to use another one like it today it would be the MSR multi fuel so i could also burn kerosene. Cool vid!
I’ve used one for many years and never had a problem. For base camping, if you can find an old Sigg Tourist cookset (now an antique) the stoves fit perfectly for carry. Some Sigg models were actually made specifically to store the Coleman stoves and include a windscreen.I always seal up the stove with a ziploc or plastic before storing it in the cookware.
Naphtha does have a higher flash point temperature, but realistically at room temp it is actually more volatile with a lower, lower explosive limit of 1.2% by volume to air, than gasoline with a lower explosive limit of 1.4% and a much lower vapour pressure, your fear of gasoline is unwarranted based on any explosive effect. and gasoline is about 1/8th the price and is even more widely available.
Thank you for dragging the numbers out on that. I remembered advantages to unleaded gas, but couldn't remember why before reading your comment.
They do get the job done anywhere anytime .
My favorite all round camping stove. Heavy, but reliable and cooks great.
I used mine at 19 degrees 9,900 feet in Colorado this fall. Works great under all conditions. Coleman is amazing
You didnt mention one of the biggest strengths and that is you can always fill it up to full before you leave and unlike other stoves you rarely need to bring a fuel canister.
Yes. Two night/three day backpacking? Top it off and that’s it. Usually a good amount still left. Longer trips or more people cooking with it, Id bring a very small amount of white gas separate as well.
I have used the Coleman Peak 1 Feather dual fuel for years and absolutely love it. Very reliable and fool proof. And I’ve also successfully managed to use kerosene in it. Love, love this stove
I had a Coleman 505B for many years, and it was great. But on The Long Trail, developed a fuel leak, so I traded for a Svea 123 at The Mountain Goat. Both were awesome stoves.
I got the dual fuel lantern and stove. I only run 87 octane gasoline in them. It's cool cause I run a little Honda 2.3hp 4 stroke outboard on my ten foot john boat and I can camp, hunt, fish for a week on one gallon of gas.
This set up sounds absolutely wonderful! The stuff of dreams
I just used this stove on a on a 7 day campout... Great stove.
Thank you for how simple you kept this information and also shared both the pros and cons of this stove. I just bought mine and because of you, I am going to give this it's first run tomorrow. You have a real knack for this and even though I knew nothing about you prior to this, I look forward in watching your other unbiased but factual reviews of products. Thanks again!!
My first backpacking stove from way back is the Coleman Feather 400 Peak 1 . Had to replace the seal for the pump last year . Bombproof stove even of a bit heavy for backpacking . My stove for choice when the temps plummet . Mine has the small base for fuel therefore was sold as a backpacking unit . It came with a sack and the only issue I ever had was once the valve was bumped and the fuel was sprayed out a little and the sack was damp from the fuel . Amazing stove to be still useable after 30 ish years ? Mine is the white gas version . The 442 is multi fuel I believe . Thanks for the review .
Wow I got the same stove and I got it about 20 years ago for around $24 on clearance at Walmart. I have a Peak 1 that I picked up at a pawn shop for $45 and it came with the square pots case.
GOD Bless you and your families
Great video as much as I love all the new stoves and new ideas it's very nice to see something from my youth.
Have a 533 and when I bought it, it came with a square plastic case. Works great and super reliable. Use it often but not suitable for backpacking, too heavy.
I have one and also the two burner dual fuel box stove they are great. Unleaded gas is dirty and you may have to clean the stove up don’t leave it in the tank for long term storage. They work and are safe with gasoline we won WWII with a version of it and regular gasoline. Have fun on your travels and stay safe.
Thanks Ernie. I'm not big into white gas stoves either. We used to carry one in our tracked personal carrier in the Army... they got the job done with the canned C-rations, for sure. We were constantly having to repair ours... and it would seem to break just before you would go to heat up the old meat and potato slices!
I just bought the SVEA 123R after watching your video, so I have to save up for this one now. That SVEA sure is expensive!
I would have given this stove a try first because it is less expensive.
Pretty much the only difference is the size pot you can use and fuel capacity. You already have the small version for camping, and you can get one of the suitcase double burner liquid fuel stoves for the house. This stove is more of an in between if you ask me. Not as good at either job, but it CAN do both.
Yes, the SVEA is more expensive. It is however of a simpler design with less moving parts and thus less to go wrong with it and also has a pedigree going way back. Its half the weight of the Coleman and with the little pot, is its own container.
I have it's cousin, the Optimus 8R Hunter (which has the same burner) and in over 40 years have only replaced the Graphite Seal in the Burner Control Stuffing Box and the Gasket in the Fuel Tank Cap / Pressure Release Valve.
You have made a very good buy with the SVEA 123R.
Great informational video I used mine during hurricane sandy to cook and heat
I like the older Peak One, with the separate flame adjustment lever--it simmers really well! My camping buddy (this is a few years ago) bought the newer multi fuel stove--and it doesn't simmer well at all. With an aluminum simmer plate, it works a bit better.
I do proper cooking when I'm camping--I don't just boil water for coffee or dehydrated food--so simmering ability is key! I analyse wood burning stoves by the same criteria--so some small wood gasifier stoves don't make the cut for the same reason.
I have my 1942 Coleman from WW2. Same basic design and works the same way. What is cool is the WW2 stove has folding feet as it's more narrow and taller than my Peak1 from the early 80s and both came with a carry case/pots.
Time tested design that still does the job.
Excellent stove
This is my 2nd viewing,,,
Stinky,,,,???? I’ve used a lot of white gas Stoves,, and stinky is something I have never experienced. Solid fuel,,esbit ,,etc.,,, That’s Stinky !!!!! Great Video Ernie
It reminds me of my MSR Whisperlite, both in flame pattern and performance.
All stoves I've seen that has the regulator on the liquid side has troubles with fine control. It's difficult to make a valve for such small amounts as you'll need for liquid fuels, and that's it. I guess it helps avoid turbulence near the hole, at the very least. So that it doesn't flutter. You can carry a small stove like a Trangia on the side if you want to simmer, while this will take the snow melting.
The burner head with many, slightly long channels out of a wide head, is also similar. It gives fuel and air space to mix properly at low speed, so that it doesn't have to "roar". So while it's not the best for small pots it's appreciated.
And, I guess it's about as light it can be for what it is. Having the fuel tank on the side is weight as well. My biggest question is, how much snow can you melt on that tank?
I used to burn my 508a indoors a lot. I love that thing it has a wonderful simmer. Even after yrs of burning it barely ever needs any maintenance or cleaning. I've had that thing since about '88. It used to be my backpacking stove back in the day. There is currently a case like the one my 508 came in, on ebay for around 30 bucks though.
Love it. Thanks dude.
The white gas rates about 70 octane and unleaded gas at the pump is around 87 octane. Therefore it is more volatile at 70. Octane is the non-burnability of the gas. Your gasoline needs to be less volatile the more compression your engine has. That's why high compression engines need 92 octane (Like my Vespa).
I have had a Coleman #508 (very similar to this one)since the mid 1980s.It lived at base camp several miles back in a cave for a year or more. It was great to have warm food and drink after exploring a long cave, sometimes 24 hour trips away from base camp. It never let us down ,but it did start to rust where the paint had gotten scraped(around the bottom) These things are like you said bomb proof ,but heavy.
I have a similar Coleman (Peak Featherweight) from 1990, that still works really well. It was actually stored for about 10yrs with fuel in the tank and started right up. It sputtered for a couple minutes but then settled out. On week long backpacking trips, I would take a full stove plus extra and rarely needed to add any fuel to the stove..
In England I buy 'Panel-Wipe', which is white-gas. I have no need to use 'unleaded'. Given the amount of car-specific additives that are suspected to clog the generator faster that is my personal choice.
I just bought a 533 in the carry-case.
The far-older brother, the 502 has a smaller burner. Mine is that old the fount was marked for the 501. That was a 'train wreck'. It prompted a product recall due to serious design flaws. that may be better at doing 'simmer'.
All silent-burner stoves have susceptibility to winds. A roarer burner deals with wind better, however as the name suggests they are anti-social. At 6:00 am on a busy camp-ground nobody will thank you for starting what seems like a small gas-turbine.
Ernie, I may have a solution to the simmering problem. Lots of RUclips videos say to pump the tank up again after the stove is lit. BUT, there a couple of videos that point out the Coleman's instructions say to add pressure ONLY when the flame shutters or turns yellow. If the tank pressure it too high, you won't get a decent simmer. [ I can't test this because the only two Coleman stoves I have at the moment are a 530 and a 425E. The 530 has two settings: all the way on or all the way off, and the 425 has several turns worth of adjustment on the valve...]
I have tried the same on the MSR Whisperlite, which has much the same burner. And it only works to a certain degree. Reason being, it only takes a slight wisp of a wind to blow it out at low heat. And with just a little breeze around you, you can’t keep that out even with a wind screen all around.
I can turn my Whisperlite low enough to fry pancakes, but that’s about the limit.
Mine is probably 30 years old and worked fine today. I carry a small fuel can rated for fuel and worry none.
I’ve owned the Coleman Apex II Multi-fuel stove for decades. Too heavy to hike with normally, but for car camping or for emergency use it is fantastic.
Mine runs on:
White Gas, Unleaded, Kerosene, Diesel, and even Jet Fuel (Jet A)
I carry mine in a plastic folgers coffee container (LG size). Works great for stove, funnel and lighter plus extras!
I've had a couple of these Colmans and really relied upon them. I always feared the pumps giving out, but after years of use never had a problem. I also like the SVEA as it has no pump to fail. All in all these stoves a great, but can be dangerous if not careful. Thanks for another great video and hope to see more of these stoves reviewed.
Oldie but goodie
Oh dear. Ernie is going to end up buying Soto Stormbreaker soon. :)
One advantage of these liquid fuel stoves is that the running costs can be cheaper for long camping/hiking trips, even with Coleman fuel/white gas/Crown fuel/naptha. Also, the fuel is easily available even in small towns & villages, from the hardware shop or gas station. Hard to find hiking gas canisters in small towns and if you do, they'll usually be expensive.
I use the 533 and have tried the MSRs. Personally, I prefer the 533 although it's significantly heavier. The stove components are more robust. It comes as one unit, and so it doesn't need assembling & disassembling before/after use. And it doesn't need priming, except in very cold weather.
That’s one of the things I like about, Ernie. You’re such a selfless guy. Always thinking us, the subscriber, when purchasing and testing new equipment, and risking your marriage in the process. You should be recommended for sainthood.
I still have the older version (442 model), it's still going strong. Great review!
Yeah I can attest to the Peak 1 version at 10,000 feet in the snow in February using white gas up at the base of Peak One in Summit County, Colorado. It also helps to light a bit of fire ribbon (gel paste) on the burner to pre-heat it.
No need preheating is best in that Coleman serie. It make it easy to use like gas stoves. Remember pointing that with them. Noise level is equal with gas stoves or better. The friction mat undet it, make more easy to pump its pressure, when it hot.
Come up to the Canadian rockies in alberta we hit 0 Celsius in mid summer often lol
Yes, haha. Same here in Oregon. People come to hike mountain trails in June and are surprised to find the trails still covered in snow, or in August that water left in pots of frozen in the morning or an afternoon rain will suddenly turn to snowflakes.