You hit the Motherlode with this find, Shawn. This piece of history is in good hands as far as getting the attention it will take to bring it back to life. I hope you are going to take us on its journey of restoration.
"I wasn't negotiating with somebody who's fighting cancer" Your not just a good drummer, but a good human being, Shawn. Cool drums, cooler story. Thanks for sharing it with us. ❤️✌️
A great drum set to clean and restore . I have a 1920 all aluminun Slingerland Geisler ( 14 X 4 ) snare drum that I cleaned and restored so that I could play it . Sounds great . Bless you and have a wonderful day !!! 😊😊😊
Thanks! I actually have a 20's Eugene Geisler snare, pre slingerland, all original though. Honestly afraid to play it as it has the original calf skins as well. I actually prefer players as you don't have to worry about stuff like that haha and you as well!
So awesome! I have a 40’s Duplex kit like this RK kit. It’s the kit that got me into refurbishing vintage drums! The story…so awesome! They will sound amazing! My Duplex kit uses RK shells. Wonderful story! The WMP will clean up nicely so will the lugs! Again….awesome!!!
That's killer! I don't know to much about Duplex but have seen and heard about them. Sounds like an awesome kit! I'm a nerd about drum history and specific history to kits. Like "If these drums could talk" type stuff. I get a lot of kits I have no idea where they've been and who owned them. It's cool when I get some of the back story/history with them. Thanks for watching!
Buddy Rich would have loved this set. He was using a fully restored set of these very drums before he passed. All the greats played these back in the day.
I used strictly Radio Kings for a bit over 15 years, live and in the studio. Tell ya what, when you mount the toms using non-altering modern methods, Air Ride feet on the FT legs, and mount modern heads on them, they’re absolute weapons! I take 6 snares to every recording session and the wooden ones are 5.5”, 7”, and 8.25” Radio Kings. No acoustic environment has ever defeated them. Congrats, brutha, those are treasures.
Bless you, enjoy them drums, great picture and story ! Wear a good mask when you take the heads off ! Sometimes asbestos containing muffling materials were unknowingly used used back in the old days ..
All I can say is wow! What a historic set. Very fair price, I bet the seller sees more value in the buyers restoration intensions than the cash. That Radio King set is finally at home. Think something is moving in that kick Shawn, it moved on 4, so be careful. lol
Great find Shawn!!! I also paid $1200 on a natural wood Radio King set from the 40’s. Aluminum badge era. Came with a 28” bass drum, 9x13”, and 12x14 toms. No cymbals or stands, but original calfskin heads. The thing was clean with very little scratches. No deep gouges of any kind. Had to fork over the cash 💰. Engraved hoops and everything. Couldn’t be more pleased. 😎
Thanks man! I am for sure! I know people even in other parts of the states that can't find anything local anyways. Think it's something to do with New England is one of the oldest parts of the country and millions of people in this area. Old-lots of people = lots of old drums lol thanks for consistently watching my ramblings! I really appreciate it!
Oh for sure! These just have such little tension on them right now, I did end up giving the 13 a couple small turns as it was way lower than the 16, lugs were pretty much finger right maybe and the bass drum is filled half way up with that stuff lol thanks man!
Wow what a great score. I saw these listed last week and was wondering if you were going to grab them. Those cymbals sound amazing. I would be half tempted to try a whitening trick on these yellowed shells. Can't wait to see how the resto goes. Congrats!
thanks Kurt! yeah, i messaged him not long after he listed them but never heard back until Saturday morning 🤣sometimes you just have to be patient and hope you hear back haha i may end up trying to whiten them a little, see if i can get them closer to the floor tom, as much as i want to tare into them right now it's going to be a bit, i'm knee deep in my silver sparkle gretsch and haven't had time to finish it yet. lol
A lot of drummers in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s would sometimes put shredded newspapers inside the bass drum to cut down on some of the ring of the those larger bass drums. Krupa use to our crumpled newspaper in his bass drum.
that's what i suspected it was at first but from what i could see through the vent hole i'm pretty sure it's not! i'll probably be taking the head off this weekend so we'll find out haha thanks for watching Philip!
Thanks man! It's some kind of felt, like one of those old moving blanks but looks like it's shredded haha I'll be sure to document it when I take it out haha
What a beautiful kit. It just brings you back to another time. If I had it, I would just look at it all day. Its second home could be no better. Looking forward to its restoration. Can anything be done to its faded color or will it require all new wrap. Shame if that vintage pearl has to go. By the way, watched your Bonham Green Sparkle Vids. Who do you get your wrap from? Can’t believe the Drum Center of Portsmouth didn’t snap those up for their drum museum.
Thanks! I was surprised they didn't grab it also! The WMP wrap is staying for sure even if yellowed! Too much history with this kit to alter anything from original. I get delmar wrap, usually from precision drum in NY but I found another guy to sell me the green, he doesn't typically sell it though. Thanks for watching 🙏 and happy thanksgiving 🦃
Great drums! Gene Krupa deluxe model # 1N. Floor tom could be newer as a basket was used on Cloud Badge era. The floor tom can be dated. Lug position was changed on later models. I have both versions. We could check that.
good info thanks! i was thinking that but i was told the picture of his dad was when the set was new and it has the floor tom in the pic, that may not be accurate though.
@@shawnsdrumcave My identical kit is Large Oval Badge. '48/'49. My second floor is 16" 1953. The lugs were moved closer to the bearing edge and shorter tuning rods were used. Otherwise identical. These drums are so cool. Feel free to reply with any questions. Good luck!
Floor tom legs and mounts came out in 1947 so they are probably correct to this kit....as the beavertail lugs with the added "ledge" came out by 1948. So more than likely a '47/'48 cloud badge kit. And the large oval badge on the canister thrown was used from '48 to '50. @@shawnsdrumcave
I have one very much like it. Unfortunately it was my main gigging kit back in the 70s, and 80s during my punk rock days and I beat the shit out of it. Radio King snare is still in good shape, bass drum had a consolette and spurs added to it in the 60s or 50s. My dad bought it used in 1952.
What alot of people overlook with the vintage sets and their desired sound is that the rims are heavy diecast, just like this one. These rims, not cheap lightweight knockoff metal rims like most nowadays, play a more important role of the great sound of these drums than the drum shell, and the rims are equally imperative as the drumhead. Try to make these drums at least closely match visually like they were intended, clean up the hardware and prevent further corrosion, throw some vintage new heads on this kit and play it as any drumset was intended instead of locking it away or just display to serve no purpose.
100%! Rims, heads and shell construction! That's the plan! I'm going to do a resto video, I'll be putting new vintage style heads on it so I can play it without worrying about damage to the original heads but I'll keep those with it. I play everything I own, if it's too much of a collector piece I find a new home for it. Thanks for watching!
Such a cool find!!! What do you think of the 70's Slingerland kits? I have an offer for a black (😴) 20/12/16 kit for a guitar I have that I value at about $650. I initially declined but am reconsidering it. I play mostly rock and have been looking for my first "vintage" kit.
thanks! i love 70's slingerland kits, that's an odd size combo, less desirable than others like 13,16,22 or 12,14,20. just a generic black 12,16,20 i'd value around $500 imo i'd keep looking.
not crazy at all, there's a restored one listed right now for that but what people ask and what it sells for who knows haha regardless it's worth some good $ thanks for watching!
Please! When you have them restored, PLEASE record a video with a GOOD jazz drummer playing them. It would be nice to hear them sounding and being played as they should be, NOT like a rock & roll clod sounds like playing them...
You hit the Motherlode with this find, Shawn. This piece of history is in good hands as far as getting the attention it will take to bring it back to life. I hope you are going to take us on its journey of restoration.
I definitely will! Thanks man!
@shawnsdrumcave I'm looking forward to it. Just what an amazing drum set.
@@pigphatnick thank you! it's going to be a little while as projects are starting to get backed up but i can't wait to dig into it!
"I wasn't negotiating with somebody who's fighting cancer"
Your not just a good drummer, but a good human being, Shawn.
Cool drums, cooler story. Thanks for sharing it with us. ❤️✌️
thanks ken! i try! and thanks for watching!
Man,that is fantastic score.a good cleaning,new heads,save the old one,s.let,s go.that drum wrap has some serious mojo.
Thank you 🙏
Bless you, enjoy them drums, great picture and story
@@snarecat3441 thank you!
Beautiful find! Love seeing ppl acquire old kits.
thank you!
Another amazing find my man!! Can’t wait to see her finished!
thanks bud!
A great drum set to clean and restore . I have a 1920 all aluminun Slingerland Geisler ( 14 X 4 ) snare drum that I cleaned and restored so that I could play it . Sounds great . Bless you and have a wonderful day !!! 😊😊😊
Thanks! I actually have a 20's Eugene Geisler snare, pre slingerland, all original though. Honestly afraid to play it as it has the original calf skins as well. I actually prefer players as you don't have to worry about stuff like that haha and you as well!
Unreal find. So cool, can’t wait to see it restored.
thanks brother! i'm stoked to say the least!
So awesome! I have a 40’s Duplex kit like this RK kit. It’s the kit that got me into refurbishing vintage drums! The story…so awesome! They will sound amazing! My Duplex kit uses RK shells. Wonderful story! The WMP will clean up nicely so will the lugs! Again….awesome!!!
That's killer! I don't know to much about Duplex but have seen and heard about them. Sounds like an awesome kit! I'm a nerd about drum history and specific history to kits. Like "If these drums could talk" type stuff. I get a lot of kits I have no idea where they've been and who owned them. It's cool when I get some of the back story/history with them. Thanks for watching!
Excellent all around, the drums, the story... can't wait for the refurbishing video
Thanks! I'm itching to tare into it but have another kit all apart right now haha
Buddy Rich would have loved this set. He was using a fully restored set of these very drums before he passed. All the greats played these back in the day.
For sure! Thanks for watching 🙏
I used strictly Radio Kings for a bit over 15 years, live and in the studio.
Tell ya what, when you mount the toms using non-altering modern methods, Air Ride feet on the FT legs, and mount modern heads on them, they’re absolute weapons!
I take 6 snares to every recording session and the wooden ones are 5.5”, 7”, and 8.25” Radio Kings. No acoustic environment has ever defeated them.
Congrats, brutha, those are treasures.
Right on man! I do plan on putting modern heads on it but saving the originals. Thanks for watching!
My favorite Brand and time, Radio King is the best vintage. I can just imagine the great ones pushing the Swing. Thanks for showing them off.
Thanks for watching!
Great find Shawn! Beautiful drums man and those cymbals are are cool too! Can’t wait to see the restoration my friend! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🥁🥁🥁
thanks earl!
Beautiful.
Thank you!
Bless you, enjoy them drums, great picture and story ! Wear a good mask when you take the heads off ! Sometimes asbestos containing muffling materials were unknowingly used used back in the old days ..
@@snarecat3441 good idea, thank you!
please post a vid once all tuned up. That kit has so much potential. Im sure you will make sounds great.
will do! thanks man!
Very cool! 😍 It even has my initials on the bass drum! 😊
Thanks 🙏
Nice set. Glad it's in good hands!
Thank you 🙏
Good man. Great story.
@@a.p.5906 thank you 🙏
Subbed. Can't wait to hear what's next! Great find with a great story, that's the best! Cheers!
thank you!
Great find, and love those old Zildjians!!!!! 👍🥁👍
Thank you 🙏
All I can say is wow! What a historic set. Very fair price, I bet the seller sees more value in the buyers restoration intensions than the cash. That Radio King set is finally at home. Think something is moving in that kick Shawn, it moved on 4, so be careful. lol
Thanks man! And yeah haha I'll get suited up before opening it haha
Another great find, my friend. Cool backstory. Can’t wait to see her cleaned up. Be well!
Thanks brother 🙏 you too!
What a score!!!
Thanks 🙏
This video gave me some flash backs, can’t wait to see how it comes out.
Thanks man 🙏
Hi Shawn, what a great find! Please let everyone know what you are able to do to clean up the yellowed finish. Congratulations and God bless. Mike.
Will do! Thank you 🙏
Great find Shawn!!! I also paid $1200 on a natural wood Radio King set from the 40’s. Aluminum badge era. Came with a 28” bass drum, 9x13”, and 12x14 toms. No cymbals or stands, but original calfskin heads. The thing was clean with very little scratches. No deep gouges of any kind. Had to fork over the cash 💰. Engraved hoops and everything. Couldn’t be more pleased. 😎
Thanks man! And congrats, sounds like a great set!
Awesome vid man!
@@seanhamilton5449 thank you!
Cool find man.
thank you!
Again another great find as I've said previously nothing in the UK ever.......your very lucky !!
Thanks man! I am for sure! I know people even in other parts of the states that can't find anything local anyways. Think it's something to do with New England is one of the oldest parts of the country and millions of people in this area. Old-lots of people = lots of old drums lol thanks for consistently watching my ramblings! I really appreciate it!
Looking forward to seeing you clean this up! Excellent find! ❤
Thanks!
Great story. Love this. Killer set too.
Thanks dude!
Shawn, that is the calfskin sound. I dig that sound. Don't compare them to plastic heads or it will do your head in. They sound great! Good find bro
Oh for sure! These just have such little tension on them right now, I did end up giving the 13 a couple small turns as it was way lower than the 16, lugs were pretty much finger right maybe and the bass drum is filled half way up with that stuff lol thanks man!
Wow Shawn, that's a beauty.
Thanks!
Shawn. Man, oh man.
Maaaaan...
yup! haha
You're a good human my man ❤
Thanks brother, I try 🙏
Great find! Should be a fun project.
Thank you 🙏 it definitely will be!
Love your channel. Great find. Sounds good already
Thanks man 🙏
So cool!!!
Sounds good!!
thank you!
Wow what a great score. I saw these listed last week and was wondering if you were going to grab them. Those cymbals sound amazing. I would be half tempted to try a whitening trick on these yellowed shells. Can't wait to see how the resto goes. Congrats!
thanks Kurt! yeah, i messaged him not long after he listed them but never heard back until Saturday morning 🤣sometimes you just have to be patient and hope you hear back haha i may end up trying to whiten them a little, see if i can get them closer to the floor tom, as much as i want to tare into them right now it's going to be a bit, i'm knee deep in my silver sparkle gretsch and haven't had time to finish it yet. lol
those are sick bro!
Thanks!
A lot of drummers in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s would sometimes put shredded newspapers inside the bass drum to cut down on some of the ring of the those larger bass drums. Krupa use to our crumpled newspaper in his bass drum.
that's what i suspected it was at first but from what i could see through the vent hole i'm pretty sure it's not! i'll probably be taking the head off this weekend so we'll find out haha thanks for watching Philip!
I just get this feeling, this one’s gonna look really great, when you’re done restoring it. Can’t help wondering what’s in that kick drum.🤔
Thanks man! It's some kind of felt, like one of those old moving blanks but looks like it's shredded haha I'll be sure to document it when I take it out haha
What a beautiful kit. It just brings you back to another time. If I had it, I would just look at it all day. Its second home could be no better. Looking forward to its restoration. Can anything be done to its faded color or will it require all new wrap. Shame if that vintage pearl has to go.
By the way, watched your Bonham Green Sparkle Vids. Who do you get your wrap from?
Can’t believe the Drum Center of Portsmouth didn’t snap those up for their drum museum.
Thanks! I was surprised they didn't grab it also! The WMP wrap is staying for sure even if yellowed! Too much history with this kit to alter anything from original. I get delmar wrap, usually from precision drum in NY but I found another guy to sell me the green, he doesn't typically sell it though. Thanks for watching 🙏 and happy thanksgiving 🦃
Great drums! Gene Krupa deluxe model # 1N. Floor tom could be newer as a basket was used on Cloud Badge era. The floor tom can be dated. Lug position was changed on later models. I have both versions. We could check that.
good info thanks! i was thinking that but i was told the picture of his dad was when the set was new and it has the floor tom in the pic, that may not be accurate though.
@@shawnsdrumcave My identical kit is Large Oval Badge. '48/'49. My second floor is 16" 1953. The lugs were moved closer to the bearing edge and shorter tuning rods were used. Otherwise identical. These drums are so cool. Feel free to reply with any questions. Good luck!
Floor tom legs and mounts came out in 1947 so they are probably correct to this kit....as the beavertail lugs with the added "ledge" came out by 1948. So more than likely a '47/'48 cloud badge kit. And the large oval badge on the canister thrown was used from '48 to '50. @@shawnsdrumcave
My 1st Set Was a Blue Sparkle Set ...
I Miss it .. Mine Was a 60s Set ...
Nice! I definitely have sellers regret with some stuff! I have a video on my channels of a 60's silver sparkle set I own! Thanks for watching!
I have one very much like it. Unfortunately it was my main gigging kit back in the 70s, and 80s during my punk rock days and I beat the shit out of it. Radio King snare is still in good shape, bass drum had a consolette and spurs added to it in the 60s or 50s. My dad bought it used in 1952.
that's awesome though! just more vintage mojo lol even as a players set RK's are killer! thanks for watching!
@@shawnsdrumcave Love the Radio Kings!
What alot of people overlook with the vintage sets and their desired sound is that the rims are heavy diecast, just like this one. These rims, not cheap lightweight knockoff metal rims like most nowadays, play a more important role of the great sound of these drums than the drum shell, and the rims are equally imperative as the drumhead. Try to make these drums at least closely match visually like they were intended, clean up the hardware and prevent further corrosion, throw some vintage new heads on this kit and play it as any drumset was intended instead of locking it away or just display to serve no purpose.
100%! Rims, heads and shell construction! That's the plan! I'm going to do a resto video, I'll be putting new vintage style heads on it so I can play it without worrying about damage to the original heads but I'll keep those with it. I play everything I own, if it's too much of a collector piece I find a new home for it. Thanks for watching!
Now living in ALABAMA I know that accent from anywhere after living up north for 30yrs
Haha for sure! Thanks for watching!
Such a cool find!!! What do you think of the 70's Slingerland kits? I have an offer for a black (😴) 20/12/16 kit for a guitar I have that I value at about $650. I initially declined but am reconsidering it. I play mostly rock and have been looking for my first "vintage" kit.
thanks! i love 70's slingerland kits, that's an odd size combo, less desirable than others like 13,16,22 or 12,14,20. just a generic black 12,16,20 i'd value around $500 imo i'd keep looking.
Real calf skin heads?
Yes! Thanks for watching!
Those are Trans Stamps cymbals. Worth $$$$$
for sure! i've already had several people asking about them! but i think they need to stay with the set. thanks for watching!
Am I crazy or is just the snare worth 1000 or more?
not crazy at all, there's a restored one listed right now for that but what people ask and what it sells for who knows haha regardless it's worth some good $ thanks for watching!
Please! When you have them restored, PLEASE record a video with a GOOD jazz drummer playing them.
It would be nice to hear them sounding and being played as they should be, NOT like a rock & roll clod sounds like playing them...
A friend actually asked if he could, not sure what a clod is but thanks? 🤣