Awesome review, detailed and spot on. The setting is fortuantely still alive amongst fans. I'm actually just starting a new campaign the coming week, using GURPS3 instead of RM2 (for lack of time).
Mr. Willy Muffin... Thank you sir, for covering ICE's Shadow World. I have for decades & still do advocate & maintain: SHADOW WORLD is THE BEST COMPREHENSIVE fantasy ttrpg setting: EVER.
Wellllll... it's up there - but I haven't reached Glorantha yet 😉 Shadow World is certainly objectively one of the best. Whether it's the best - that's subjective. If it's the best in your view - absolutely fab by me 🙂
@@WillyMuffinUK 👍...re Glorantha which does have its charms...between the two (for me) Shadow World Every Time. That said...LOTS of Species Goodness to mine in Glorantha Setting 👍👍👍
@@WillyMuffinUK Shadow World nuance between Evil & Unlife. The Many Factions, The care given to individuals spanning many millenia of history. Etc., etc., etc... Pertinent, Gameplay Lore, Lore, Lore. Just MAGNIFICENT.
@@Viglin123 It certainly deserves more love than it gets. When compiling my notes for this video, I came across far too many forum posts of a "does anyone remember Shadow World?" - dated when Terry was actively pushing works out for it. We have an odd industry here where quality of product means less than which particular logos you have stamped on a book. (No. 37 in a series of "no-one needs 5,000,000 new campaign settings per day on Kickstarter for 5E!)
Members of our game crew visited the HERO games table @ Origins 1985. We purchased the Fantasy Hero RPG book and met the author. This game is a delight. Highly recommended.
Fantastic stuff. I've got a couple of new players and have been dreading their introduction, how could I bring them up to speed without taking the whole session. Thank you for this detailed overview, the timing was perfect
One of the early ones - The Iron Wind, Vog Mur, or Cloudlords of Tanora. These presented their adventure areas in a standalone fashion, which, by accident more than design, means a newcomer can get into a capsulated, small portion of Shadow World without needing to worry too much about the wider Shadow World. More of the setting's concepts and lore can be built in from there. For all RPG campaigns, I very much fall into the "start small" camp. Trying to build a world (or get into the entirety of a published setting) all at once ahead of play I think is a route to insanity.
@@seop1721If you want to see some of the newer modules I would suggest Tales from the Green Gryphon Inn. All based around a large town, Gryphonburgh on a crossroads in the major kingdom of the continent of Jaiman.
My heart would say the 1st edition box, my head says 4th - it's just an easier reference work. 1st just "feels" nicer, but is missing a chunk of info that got folded in to later editions from various expansions.
Awesome review, detailed and spot on. The setting is fortuantely still alive amongst fans. I'm actually just starting a new campaign the coming week, using GURPS3 instead of RM2 (for lack of time).
Thank-you - and good luck with the new campaign!
SW has always been my favorite, and I've never gotten chance to play there. Thanks for rekindling an old flame! Great video!
Thank-you 🙂
Great work thank you. This is one of those settings I have on my shelf but never went deep on it. Thank you for this a very pleasant listen.
Thank-you :) I'm glad you liked it!
Mr. Willy Muffin...
Thank you sir, for covering ICE's Shadow World.
I have for decades & still do advocate & maintain: SHADOW WORLD is THE BEST COMPREHENSIVE fantasy ttrpg setting: EVER.
Wellllll... it's up there - but I haven't reached Glorantha yet 😉
Shadow World is certainly objectively one of the best. Whether it's the best - that's subjective. If it's the best in your view - absolutely fab by me 🙂
@@WillyMuffinUK 👍...re Glorantha which does have its charms...between the two (for me) Shadow World Every Time. That said...LOTS of Species Goodness to mine in Glorantha Setting 👍👍👍
@@WillyMuffinUK Shadow World nuance between Evil & Unlife. The Many Factions, The care given to individuals spanning many millenia of history. Etc., etc., etc...
Pertinent, Gameplay Lore, Lore, Lore. Just MAGNIFICENT.
Gets my vote, lve been living for for around 40 years.
@@Viglin123 It certainly deserves more love than it gets. When compiling my notes for this video, I came across far too many forum posts of a "does anyone remember Shadow World?" - dated when Terry was actively pushing works out for it.
We have an odd industry here where quality of product means less than which particular logos you have stamped on a book.
(No. 37 in a series of "no-one needs 5,000,000 new campaign settings per day on Kickstarter for 5E!)
Been loving the vids bro, especially the Top 30 adventure ones.
I may have to dig out another "top" list, in that case!
@@WillyMuffinUK hope so!
Fantastic video greatly appreciated. Just wish I would’ve had a chance to see it sooner.
Thank-you 🙂
Members of our game crew visited the HERO games table @ Origins 1985. We purchased the Fantasy Hero RPG book and met the author. This game is a delight. Highly recommended.
I am so mixed over HERO. Love Champions, enjoy Fantasy Hero. Find the full-on bulletproof HERO System completely confounding!
Fantastic stuff. I've got a couple of new players and have been dreading their introduction, how could I bring them up to speed without taking the whole session. Thank you for this detailed overview, the timing was perfect
Glad to be of accidentally-timed service! 🙂
Any tips on what might be the best introductory scenario for new players to the world?
One of the early ones - The Iron Wind, Vog Mur, or Cloudlords of Tanora. These presented their adventure areas in a standalone fashion, which, by accident more than design, means a newcomer can get into a capsulated, small portion of Shadow World without needing to worry too much about the wider Shadow World. More of the setting's concepts and lore can be built in from there.
For all RPG campaigns, I very much fall into the "start small" camp. Trying to build a world (or get into the entirety of a published setting) all at once ahead of play I think is a route to insanity.
@@WillyMuffinUK Thank you! Much appreciated!
@@seop1721If you want to see some of the newer modules I would suggest Tales from the Green Gryphon Inn. All based around a large town, Gryphonburgh on a crossroads in the major kingdom of the continent of Jaiman.
Hi!
Which edition of Master Atlas do you recommend, regardless of the RM system?
My heart would say the 1st edition box, my head says 4th - it's just an easier reference work. 1st just "feels" nicer, but is missing a chunk of info that got folded in to later editions from various expansions.
@@WillyMuffinUK Thanks for the quick reply!
@@agrorocker No problem - hope it helps!
Monte C(r)ook liked it so much that he based Numenera on it, haha.
No idea about that - I'm not familiar with Numenera. Given his involvement with ICE, it wouldn't be surprising if there wasn't some influence there.