Well, same, except I would also realize that this is armchair knowledge. Meaning if I saw an NTSB person, or an experienced airmen, I would realize they know *vastly* better than me.
Given that this was a known and ongoing issue for up to a year in advance on this particular aircraft, I hold that it's the fault of the airline for not fixing the issue, not the pilots, who were only able to reset the unit as their single in-flight remedial action.
Recreating these scenarios must be difficult at best. The deep dive into the accuracy of how these incidents playout along with the actors and actresses give the viewer a very full picture to dissect the incidents. I'm very grateful for these epic.recreations. The highly produced series is a credit to all in the aviation industry.
I'm kind of mad at the maintenance crew for continuing to just reset the malfunctioning part instead of FIXING it. I mean, isn't that their job? Then that engineer who tells the pilot "Yeah, go ahead and do that" but doesn't add "but NEVER while flying!" Just completely irresposible and negligent.
Exactly! Another one I watched, the crew would "Glue" around one of the wings to keep it on - instead of repairing it with a brand new one! Of course it broke off on take-off and the plane crashed! Very Sad and Scary! Thank you Lord..🙏🏼
As much as I don’t commend the pilot’s actions, I understand them. You have an annoying problem that refuses to be fixed, so you try something the engineer showed you. He likely had no idea what the consequences were, and either wasn’t told not to, or didn’t understand what the person said properly. He made a terrible mistake that someone showed him, someone who in theory is trustworthy and knows what they’re doing.
Reset a circuit breaker in the air vs on the ground is totally different story. Reset a circuit breaker in the air is like you driving a 200 mph car cruising speed and all the sudden you pull out the car key. Reset the same circuit breaker on the ground is like you are at a parking lot parked position then removed your car key. A machanic pull circuit breakers on the ground does not mean the pilot can do the same in the air. All pilots have manuals that tells them what they can do what they cannot. You don't try to be a smart ass and think this would work if it's not on the manual.
@@Real_Moon-Moon loud and clear the fact you assume pilots have no idea the consequences for pulling a circuit breaker is ridiculous. He should have known. It’s very basic concept and it’s a joke if he doesn’t know
@@dlphotovideos I ain’t arguing. I’m just saying. But, he most likely didn’t know what each circuit breaker did, there were lots. So, he just replicated what an engineer taught him. Did he know? Maybe? Maybe not. Based on his reaction, no. He didn’t know the true extent of what would happen.
@@dlphotovideos There have been pilots who crashed their planes by knowingly pulling a circuit breaker to deactivate something. You also clearly didn’t read anything I said.
i love how this gets posted and im already watching. once again airbus being airbus, they put to much focus on automated flying then once something craps the bed the pilot has little to no room for correction or to save anyone. like i get it was a rudder issue but anything that throws off the airbus a320 flight pc always leads to issues maybe even catastrophic ones. anyone can say anything about boeing and the 737 but id still rather have my pilot have full control and manuvarebility to possibly save us all.
I don't know what you mean by "no room for correction." The pilots could have saved the plane just by pitching down and the controls would have responded. In normal law an airbus will moderate inputs and refuse inputs that would stall a plane. However in alternate law, a single pilot (if the other isn't interfering) will be able to control the plane like a 737. It will do exactly as the pilot ordered.
@@alex_zetsu true they had all the time but like the vid explained, the FO's focus was lost due to vertigo imbalance and if there werent like 6-8 warnings the FO could have saved it. the point im making is if airbus didnt make all the airbuses reliant on a flight pc to keep things stable at all times maybe there wont be a million warnings. but when u say they had a chance they certainly did i agree, just being overwhelmed like that is a pilots nightmare.
@@marybdrake1472 This incident had absolutely nothing to do with over reliance on automation. The First Officer DID return the plane to level flight however his spatial disorientation led him to over-correct in the opposite direction - this is a biological reaction. The fault of the crash was the Captain resetting the computer system while in flight -- with unintended consequences, and then became a spectator as much of the incident unfolded. The Captain did not try to take take the controls until near the every end. RIP to the poor souls that deserved a better Captain that night.
@@TheLeader171 not really, 39:06 "The pilot, who could have helped by communicating more clearly or taking over the plane, did neither. Investigators can never be certain why."
@grahamgreene779 the data shows the captain did attempt to take control by pressing the take control button and he did press it but didn't press it long enough. He was also confusing the pilot by confusing the copilot by saying pull down. It was a combination of multiple thing. Watch like 5minutes before your timestamp
@@TheLeader171 i watched the entire episode. They are not sure why the captain didn't take control, which is why 39:06 "The pilot, who could have helped by communicating more clearly or taking over the plane, did neither. Investigators can never be certain why." They don't know exactly why he didn't just say "my plane,' or use the button on the stick to take control. If you'd like explain why the captain didn't take control, I'd love to hear it.
This is the second crash I have seen that was caused by (or had a significant factor with) the way that Airbus allows BOTH pilots to control the aircraft at the same time. (The other was the Air France crash in the Atlantic.)
I would never get on a plane. Everyone says how much safer air travel is than ground travel, they’ll never convince me. If you go on your trip, I wish you the safest and easiest flights ever.
Same, AF 447,,,,,,, co pilot was pulling back first officer was pushing down! NO CRM! all do to pitot tubes being frozen! The computer read the co pilots imput because he did it first! Now they do have the override switch/button, If you use is properly! SMH
its funny the more redundant they try to make planes with multiple computers for every little function the more often they have failures, and when the hopelessly over complicated electronics confuse the pilots its always the pilots fault, and they left out the point the pilot asked the maintenance technician if he could pull the circuit breakers in flight and he was told yes. These system they build into planes are supposed to make them easier and safer to fly but sounds to me like they just add andless points of failures and confusion. This is far from the first time flawed avionics caused problems and confused pilots ending in tragedy Pilots can make mistakes, but all this overcomplication just seems to add to the problem in some cases..all it takes is one bad solder joint or weak/failed component and the plane can become uncontrollable no matter how good the pilot is - bad enough we will always have possible mechanical failures but now theyve added endless points of computer control and software failure as well. Heres an idea, how about letting the pilot fly the plane instead of a fault prone computer.
I'll add this, the tech said you could pull it in context that they were on the ground, not flying. He didn't say don't do it while flying, but the pilot assumed he could.
Tragically, the holes in the Swiss cheese all lined up prior to and during this flight. If the rudder module had been correctly repaired, if the captain hadn't tried a ground reset "trick" in flight, or if the first officer had properly monitored and trusted his instruments rather than flying by feel-if, if, if.
I watched this same episode like a week ago on this channel. What’s with uploading previous videos as new? Or are they just redoing old videos for views. This Is actually the second time I’ve noticed this.
Can’t the pilots switch off the computer which is glitching and just fly the plane? It must be strictly situational. Human's place so much trust in tech, sometimes to our detriment.
I doubt very much you want to go back to drum.brakes (didn't work well, especially in rain or when you really need them) or points and plugs to drive a car...
These Airbus accidents are more interesting for me since most of the time pilots deal or fight with computer ( important because we are heading to 100% automation era) . And since pilots don't know how the electronics work they lose the "battle ". Airlines have to hire pilots who studied "every small details" of planes not the ones who gets CPL in a 15 month in some Florida school, which they only care about student money. Or maybe schools have to make mandatory to watch these "Mayday" series 😁. Sometimes it feels flying is miracle my friends knowing these facts😊
The trailing swept wing will have reduced lift relative to the advancing wing. Also, the dihedral (slight upward angle of wings) also contributes to a rolling tendency while yawing.
having watched so many of these recently the first thing i noticed: how well the pilot and co-pilot were working together. seen so many where the talking heads mention CRM and this crew had it in spades.
Pilots have to be ready for anything anytime. The A320 is one of the safest planes in the skies. I’ve flown on it many times as a passenger with Scandinavian Airlines and Lufthansa.
Oh nice, caught it only 31 mins after release! This is why I don't prefer Airbus. They're pretty much flying computers, and the more we rely on computers, the more this is going to happen.
Not sure where my dad got this quote, but it's a favorite of his. "Computers are designed to come to correct conclusions based on huge amounts of data, all of which must be completely accurate. Humans are designed to come to correct conclusions based on very little data, most of which is wrong."
The problem isn't the computers. The computers have saved more lives than it's cost. (in fact, you can see briefly in the re-enactment of the...re-enactment of the flight, when the investigator pulls the breakers, "Alternate Law" appears on the screen, showing that there's now limited protections.) The problem is all too often pilots ignoring or misunderstanding computer warnings, or using them incorrectly. Autopilot and other control systems are often referred to as "the third pilot", which isn't inaccurate, but it has to be treated like one. In this case, maintenance personnel allowed a plane with a fault to fly; you wouldn't drive on a car that had a fault in a critical system after all. After that, it was somagravic illusion and a PIC whose situational awareness was shot.
Kinda shows this extremely complicated machinery that you can’t go cheap on maintenance and everything mechanical’ and electrical,and structural needs to be 1000% functional ..it’s not like a ship,a large truck,or a train that if something go wrong, you still the surface it’s on to hold you..
Yet another “he didn’t know how to fly on instruments”… it’s like these “professional” pilots are rookie VFR private pilots… the incompetence of this entire crew is breathtaking.
Airline pilots are trained on what to do during a stall. A trained FO should not have been continuing to pull the stick back while the plane is pitching up, and beginning to stall. A trained captain should not even have "pull down" in his vocabulary. If Airbus pilots are so automation-dependent that they cannot sufficiently fly manually in emergency situations, they either need more rigorous training flying manual without computers, or stricter discipline to not rely on the highest level of automation all the time.
Assumptions cause confusion and misunderstandings. Assumptions cause innocent people to be put in jail. Assumptions killed people, like on this plane. That is why God says there had to be 2 or more witnesses. Ground crewman should have explained you can't do this; it can not be done in the air. This is truly a sad ending, but shows people that appearances can be deceiving and he thought it would be okay in flight and solve the problems with this distracting alarm.
Damn! Why are well trained instrument rated pilots forgetting to Aviate, look at the instruments and fly the airplane. Every instrument rated pilot was taught to BELIEVE THE INSTRUMENTS, not the seat of your pants. I see this as a major factor in too many of these stories.
Happened with the 737 issue. At a time where you can't think straight, many pilots will start to overthink things. Happens a lot when it comes to these types of accidents.
Normally it operates like a 'black box', i.e, the crew doesn't have to know anything about its inner workings. The device operates on its own to record data or cockpit noises. In some cases, though, the crew may need to save a recording before it's overwritten. They're painted orange to make them easier to spot after a crash.
If this video is accurate, it points out a major flaw in side stick controls where both pilots cannot see the inputs by his opposite. A major problem with fly by wire is solder joints that fracture due to vibration. Also, any computer driven device that ever needs a reset, points to a fault basic design, and almost all large scale integrations are grown with internal faults. They multi layer these integrations to provide redundancy, but these layers do not always work. That is why there are micro processors that have performance ratings even though the chip was grown in the same environment. Just think how often you home PC needs a restart to return to proper operation. That tells you the reliability of the device. Does your cell phone ever mistake your swipe inputs? Think about it.
This is a bad analogy. Computers on aircrafts are considerably more reliable than any consumer silicon, and those redundancies are nothing to be scoffed at. For an aircrafts internal computers to have multiple failures is almost virtually unheard of. Even in this case we see the computer was working like it should have been. The pilots should have NEVER disabled the computer, and they should have IMMEDIATELY recognized the auto pilot disengaging. This should've snapped them to attention, but it didn't. They were looking for a way to ignore the problem, not deal with it. Also, my home computer never needs rebooted and maintains proper operation for months lol. I don't know what computer you're using, or how you're using it, but if you have to keep restarting your computer to make it work right, you're doing something wrong and NOT the computer.
No you’re just a bigot. Affirmative action. Right. How do YOU sound right now? 🤡 it’s called spatial disorientation and it happens to pilots of all races and backgrounds bigot. Try to keep up.
Even if a pilot gets disorientated, he should be looking at the gauges and make sure the plane is in the right bank and height configuration. If not, make the adjustments!
The verb is "disoriented", not "disorientated [sic]". Unless you wantate to addate superfluous and frivolously pseudo-sophisticated suffixes all over the place. Don't you readate dictionaries?
@@davesmith5656 disorientated [disˈôrēənˌtādəd] adjective BRITISH ENGLISH having lost one's sense of direction; disoriented: "when he emerged into the street he was totally disorientated" confused and unable to think clearly:
Also what about the fact that a joystick that works backwards is counterintuitive to how standard yoke controllers are??? sounds like a step backwards to me
I feel like I could tell them exactly what’s wrong with the plane after binge watching all these air disasters. I’m so addicted
😂 right!?
Same!!
Well, same, except I would also realize that this is armchair knowledge. Meaning if I saw an NTSB person, or an experienced airmen, I would realize they know *vastly* better than me.
@@joelhemphill8005
Haha! True!!!
Same!!!!
It’s unhealthy as to how addicted I am to this show
guilty habit 😅
Don’t feel bad. ACI is the best show in the world!
Me too!😂
Nah fr
indeed...we've been in many crashes and never left the couch...
If the engineers had just fixed the Rudder system instead of just resetting it constantly, then this could have been avoided.
Oh, this is one of the jackscrew episodes? Because they wouldn't spring for some gear grease?
yes but pilots should know how to just level off and fly the plane
Or had competent pilots.
Keep resetting the rudder unit rather than fix the underlying problem. Like “curing” buggy software by rebooting your computer repeatedly
Given that this was a known and ongoing issue for up to a year in advance on this particular aircraft, I hold that it's the fault of the airline for not fixing the issue, not the pilots, who were only able to reset the unit as their single in-flight remedial action.
Recreating these scenarios must be difficult at best. The deep dive into the accuracy of how these incidents playout along with the actors and actresses give the viewer a very full picture to dissect the incidents.
I'm very grateful for these epic.recreations. The highly produced series is a credit to all in the aviation industry.
It amazes me how closely the recreation actors resemble the real people!
"I've got a better idea." - Famous last words
Unfortunately, his better idea did not include knowing how to fly.
Like "Hold my beer."
What is "Hold my beer" in Malaysian?
@SuperLordHawHaw “pegang bir saya” 🤝👉🍺
The pilot also issued contradictory commands. "Pull down" doesn't make sense. You "push down" and "pull up".
They said that.
The Captain should have said “MY AIRPLANE”.
yup, if sully was there none of this wouldve happened
they should have dove in more deeply on his background ,
Love it when a commercial comes up before the actual video starts
pre roll ad. then a post. its how you get all this for free. or you can pay for premium lol
I'm kind of mad at the maintenance crew for continuing to just reset the malfunctioning part instead of FIXING it. I mean, isn't that their job? Then that engineer who tells the pilot "Yeah, go ahead and do that" but doesn't add "but NEVER while flying!" Just completely irresposible and negligent.
Exactly! Another one I watched, the crew would "Glue" around one of the wings to keep it on - instead of repairing it with a brand new one! Of course it broke off on take-off and the plane crashed! Very Sad and Scary! Thank you Lord..🙏🏼
im mad the pilots didnt know how to fly the plane without the computer systems on
As much as I don’t commend the pilot’s actions, I understand them.
You have an annoying problem that refuses to be fixed, so you try something the engineer showed you. He likely had no idea what the consequences were, and either wasn’t told not to, or didn’t understand what the person said properly.
He made a terrible mistake that someone showed him, someone who in theory is trustworthy and knows what they’re doing.
Reset a circuit breaker in the air vs on the ground is totally different story. Reset a circuit breaker in the air is like you driving a 200 mph car cruising speed and all the sudden you pull out the car key. Reset the same circuit breaker on the ground is like you are at a parking lot parked position then removed your car key. A machanic pull circuit breakers on the ground does not mean the pilot can do the same in the air. All pilots have manuals that tells them what they can do what they cannot. You don't try to be a smart ass and think this would work if it's not on the manual.
@@dlphotovideos
Did you even read my post?
@@Real_Moon-Moon loud and clear the fact you assume pilots have no idea the consequences for pulling a circuit breaker is ridiculous. He should have known. It’s very basic concept and it’s a joke if he doesn’t know
@@dlphotovideos
I ain’t arguing. I’m just saying.
But, he most likely didn’t know what each circuit breaker did, there were lots. So, he just replicated what an engineer taught him. Did he know? Maybe? Maybe not. Based on his reaction, no. He didn’t know the true extent of what would happen.
@@dlphotovideos
There have been pilots who crashed their planes by knowingly pulling a circuit breaker to deactivate something.
You also clearly didn’t read anything I said.
i love how this gets posted and im already watching. once again airbus being airbus, they put to much focus on automated flying then once something craps the bed the pilot has little to no room for correction or to save anyone. like i get it was a rudder issue but anything that throws off the airbus a320 flight pc always leads to issues maybe even catastrophic ones. anyone can say anything about boeing and the 737 but id still rather have my pilot have full control and manuvarebility to possibly save us all.
Yes, over reliance on automation is a very bad thing.
It's one of many problems aviation has these days.
I don't know what you mean by "no room for correction." The pilots could have saved the plane just by pitching down and the controls would have responded. In normal law an airbus will moderate inputs and refuse inputs that would stall a plane. However in alternate law, a single pilot (if the other isn't interfering) will be able to control the plane like a 737. It will do exactly as the pilot ordered.
@@alex_zetsu true they had all the time but like the vid explained, the FO's focus was lost due to vertigo imbalance and if there werent like 6-8 warnings the FO could have saved it. the point im making is if airbus didnt make all the airbuses reliant on a flight pc to keep things stable at all times maybe there wont be a million warnings. but when u say they had a chance they certainly did i agree, just being overwhelmed like that is a pilots nightmare.
@@marybdrake1472 This incident had absolutely nothing to do with over reliance on automation. The First Officer DID return the plane to level flight however his spatial disorientation led him to over-correct in the opposite direction - this is a biological reaction. The fault of the crash was the Captain resetting the computer system while in flight -- with unintended consequences, and then became a spectator as much of the incident unfolded. The Captain did not try to take take the controls until near the every end. RIP to the poor souls that deserved a better Captain that night.
Yet there's far more crashes with Boeing aircraft vs Airbus. I'd rather fly on any Airbus over any Boeing.
I was wondering why the captain didn’t take control of the plane
9:00 Why didn't the captain with more experience take control, instead of just saying 'Pull'?
Watch the entire episode and they explain why
Racisms n shiet
@@TheLeader171 not really,
39:06 "The pilot, who could have helped by communicating more clearly or taking over the plane, did neither. Investigators can never be certain why."
@grahamgreene779 the data shows the captain did attempt to take control by pressing the take control button and he did press it but didn't press it long enough. He was also confusing the pilot by confusing the copilot by saying pull down. It was a combination of multiple thing. Watch like 5minutes before your timestamp
@@TheLeader171 i watched the entire episode. They are not sure why the captain didn't take control, which is why
39:06 "The pilot, who could have helped by communicating more clearly or taking over the plane, did neither. Investigators can never be certain why."
They don't know exactly why he didn't just say "my plane,' or use the button on the stick to take control. If you'd like explain why the captain didn't take control, I'd love to hear it.
This is the second crash I have seen that was caused by (or had a significant factor with) the way that Airbus allows BOTH pilots to control the aircraft at the same time. (The other was the Air France crash in the Atlantic.)
Boeing should be held accountable for this!
Scary af
Dude, don't pull nothing while you're in the air😢😢
...especially not pull my finger............
The lack of due diligence to fix such a problem is unforgivable!
Another Airbus belly flop. I hadn't heard of this one before.
I hate how much I enjoy this series, but makes me question my trip to England 😩😅
💀☠️👹😵
I would never get on a plane. Everyone says how much safer air travel is than ground travel, they’ll never convince me.
If you go on your trip, I wish you the safest and easiest flights ever.
@@matthewalston1226
Sorry - I left out a word: safer
Thank you!
Doesn’t the crash animations looks like Air France 447
Same plane, same result. Just need to change the livery.
@@mikebronicki8264 not the same plane
@@muhammadfawzi1145 A320 vs A330. You are correct.
Yeah, that's why I'm always nervous when I fly on Airbus.
Same, AF 447,,,,,,, co pilot was pulling back first officer was pushing down! NO CRM! all do to pitot tubes being frozen! The computer read the co pilots imput because he did it first! Now they do have the override switch/button, If you use is properly! SMH
Please give it a REST w CONSTANT commercials!
Watch using the Brave browser.
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Love this show!
No, your other pull down!
Its perplexing how the CO pilot made it to be a Pilot flying an aircraft.
He is barely qualified to work at McDonalds .
I love my mayday thank you❤
You are not alone, oh well, there are worse addictions out there. LOL🤣🤣🤣
That would be terrifying
its funny the more redundant they try to make planes with multiple computers for every little function the more often they have failures, and when the hopelessly over complicated electronics confuse the pilots its always the pilots fault, and they left out the point the pilot asked the maintenance technician if he could pull the circuit breakers in flight and he was told yes. These system they build into planes are supposed to make them easier and safer to fly but sounds to me like they just add andless points of failures and confusion. This is far from the first time flawed avionics caused problems and confused pilots ending in tragedy Pilots can make mistakes, but all this overcomplication just seems to add to the problem in some cases..all it takes is one bad solder joint or weak/failed component and the plane can become uncontrollable no matter how good the pilot is - bad enough we will always have possible mechanical failures but now theyve added endless points of computer control and software failure as well. Heres an idea, how about letting the pilot fly the plane instead of a fault prone computer.
I'll add this, the tech said you could pull it in context that they were on the ground, not flying. He didn't say don't do it while flying, but the pilot assumed he could.
Tragically, the holes in the Swiss cheese all lined up prior to and during this flight. If the rudder module had been correctly repaired, if the captain hadn't tried a ground reset "trick" in flight, or if the first officer had properly monitored and trusted his instruments rather than flying by feel-if, if, if.
The pilot from another crash survived and somehow became an investigator
I watched this same episode like a week ago on this channel.
What’s with uploading previous videos as new?
Or are they just redoing old videos for views.
This Is actually the second time I’ve noticed this.
Can’t the pilots switch off the computer which is glitching and just fly the plane? It must be strictly situational. Human's place so much trust in tech, sometimes to our detriment.
That’s the problem, they did disconnect the computer. They tried to fly the plane manually by hand, that’s what killed them.
I doubt very much you want to go back to drum.brakes (didn't work well, especially in rain or when you really need them) or points and plugs to drive a car...
What killed them was not handling it correctly. It could've been saved if the captain helped better @@getsmarter5412
Wow!
That was not a good idea!
They have to get those ruder things fixed!😮
Dude reset a main computer in mid air and did nothing to fix his ish
I know I have a problem when I see a new episode and I giggle like a little kid with a new toy.
This is not new. It's very old.
@@OGtruthserum the episode was posted on youtube 23 hours ago. to me its new.
It’s crazy how you can say something and someone understands something completely different! Nose down or nose up could of bin different outcome
These Airbus accidents are more interesting for me since most of the time pilots deal or fight with computer ( important because we are heading to 100% automation era) . And since pilots don't know how the electronics work they lose the "battle ". Airlines have to hire pilots who studied "every small details" of planes not the ones who gets CPL in a 15 month in some Florida school, which they only care about student money. Or maybe schools have to make mandatory to watch these "Mayday" series 😁. Sometimes it feels flying is miracle my friends knowing these facts😊
Why would rudder movement induce a bank? The rudder causes yaw
The trailing swept wing will have reduced lift relative to the advancing wing. Also, the dihedral (slight upward angle of wings) also contributes to a rolling tendency while yawing.
I must say, the alarms not being accurate has always irked me about this show.
having watched so many of these recently the first thing i noticed: how well the pilot and co-pilot were working together. seen so many where the talking heads mention CRM and this crew had it in spades.
Pilots have to be ready for anything anytime. The A320 is one of the safest planes in the skies. I’ve flown on it many times as a passenger with Scandinavian Airlines and Lufthansa.
That's like an open, shot door.
You were showing new ones. Now back to repeats again lol.
Like the 4th time ive seen this uploaded in the past 10 months 😂😂
Oh nice, caught it only 31 mins after release!
This is why I don't prefer Airbus. They're pretty much flying computers, and the more we rely on computers, the more this is going to happen.
Not sure where my dad got this quote, but it's a favorite of his. "Computers are designed to come to correct conclusions based on huge amounts of data, all of which must be completely accurate. Humans are designed to come to correct conclusions based on very little data, most of which is wrong."
They’re preparing for all the DEI new hires.
The problem isn't the computers. The computers have saved more lives than it's cost. (in fact, you can see briefly in the re-enactment of the...re-enactment of the flight, when the investigator pulls the breakers, "Alternate Law" appears on the screen, showing that there's now limited protections.)
The problem is all too often pilots ignoring or misunderstanding computer warnings, or using them incorrectly. Autopilot and other control systems are often referred to as "the third pilot", which isn't inaccurate, but it has to be treated like one.
In this case, maintenance personnel allowed a plane with a fault to fly; you wouldn't drive on a car that had a fault in a critical system after all. After that, it was somagravic illusion and a PIC whose situational awareness was shot.
Replacing yoke with sidesticks removed the visual feedback of what the other pilot is doing
That master caution ⚠️ light the scariest of them all lls but fr
It’s not flying I am afraid of, nor is it really crashing. It’s the 2-4 minutes of pants-sh*tting horror in the interim.
Pull down? I would have been confused also by that command.
Kinda shows this extremely complicated machinery that you can’t go cheap on maintenance and everything mechanical’ and electrical,and structural needs to be 1000% functional ..it’s not like a ship,a large truck,or a train that if something go wrong, you still the surface it’s on to hold you..
Has a plane ever crashed while it was transporting a black box from another plane crash?
Mayday is uploading these as “new” content but they have been aired previously.
Not sure why
Maybe they are no longer making new episodes?
I understand the vertigo and loss of spatial orientation, but why not trust the instruments?
Just like Air France 447
Pilot error by Capt and cheap maintenance by airline reminds me of Alaska airlines flight 262
Yet another “he didn’t know how to fly on instruments”… it’s like these “professional” pilots are rookie VFR private pilots… the incompetence of this entire crew is breathtaking.
There’s a suspiciously high amount of Jakarta air controlled plane crashes 🧐
The captain created the whole mess
Don't fly over the Java Sea , more episodes on Java Sea than any other place on earth.
Why did Flight Asia 8501 crash and allowed to go to 18,000 feet above storm??
A320s are always getting into some 💩.
Sidesticks. Great for video games, bad for real life.
A pilot who can’t fly an airplane. Unbelievable.
When we go get some new episodes
33:42 this freaks me out. LOOK AT HIS EYES
I clicked the timestamp and snorted out my coffee at the screen thanks
Terrible acting
@@fourdoorglory5945 those are just his eyes
This isn't the fist time an Airbus went down because each pilot didn't know what the other was doing with the stick.
i feel bad for them
The co-pilot was simply unfit for the job and had no discipline in handling difficult situations.
Airline pilots are trained on what to do during a stall. A trained FO should not have been continuing to pull the stick back while the plane is pitching up, and beginning to stall. A trained captain should not even have "pull down" in his vocabulary.
If Airbus pilots are so automation-dependent that they cannot sufficiently fly manually in emergency situations, they either need more rigorous training flying manual without computers, or stricter discipline to not rely on the highest level of automation all the time.
Why would an experienced pilot not look at his attitude on the instrument panel like and avoid what his body is telling him
Assumptions cause confusion and misunderstandings. Assumptions cause innocent people to be put in jail. Assumptions killed people, like on this plane. That is why God says there had to be 2 or more witnesses. Ground crewman should have explained you can't do this; it can not be done in the air. This is truly a sad ending, but shows people that appearances can be deceiving and he thought it would be okay in flight and solve the problems with this distracting alarm.
my toxic trait is binge watching this show
Have you heard of Egypt Air 4413? :) it crashed yesterday
Engine failure, safe landing.
18:56 Why is he writing on the video screen? lol
He's not, its a projector.
This is a rerun. The pilot pulled a crucial breaker that essentially caused the plane to crash.
Scary when you trust Ford more than most people associated w airplanes. I'm also very uncomfortable that they're READING during problems!
What a misfortune!!
Damn! Why are well trained instrument rated pilots forgetting to Aviate, look at the instruments and fly the airplane. Every instrument rated pilot was taught to BELIEVE THE INSTRUMENTS, not the seat of your pants. I see this as a major factor in too many of these stories.
Happened with the 737 issue. At a time where you can't think straight, many pilots will start to overthink things. Happens a lot when it comes to these types of accidents.
If it’s a Boeing, then I’m not going! ..oh wait a minute. Never mind.
Why is it called a black box when they are all orange?
Normally it operates like a 'black box', i.e, the crew doesn't have to know anything about its inner workings. The device operates on its own to record data or cockpit noises. In some cases, though, the crew may need to save a recording before it's overwritten. They're painted orange to make them easier to spot after a crash.
Haven't you heard? Orange is the new black. 😂
@@CountYourblessings0They have GPS. so I dunno that the color is that important
How easy it is to crash a plane by experienced pilots.
FO was lost in space while the captain looked on as they fell from the sky.
Ridiculous amount of commercials....
Bad maintenance. They could have gone after root cause. I won’t even use the laptop reset button that many times.
A gyroscope is NEVER wrong (unless stuck!) And a computer is rarely wrong.
Omg
It's too bad these pilots didn't watch this show, 'cuz obviously everyone in the comments section could have saved the plane...
They knew what the problem was why not FIX IT instead of keep putting a bandaid on it?
If this video is accurate, it points out a major flaw in side stick controls where both pilots cannot see the inputs by his opposite. A major problem with fly by wire is solder joints that fracture due to vibration. Also, any computer driven device that ever needs a reset, points to a fault basic design, and almost all large scale integrations are grown with internal faults. They multi layer these integrations to provide redundancy, but these layers do not always work. That is why there are micro processors that have performance ratings even though the chip was grown in the same environment. Just think how often you home PC needs a restart to return to proper operation. That tells you the reliability of the device. Does your cell phone ever mistake your swipe inputs? Think about it.
Computers must always have a plug that can be pulled. And every pilot must know how to fly without a computer.
This is a bad analogy. Computers on aircrafts are considerably more reliable than any consumer silicon, and those redundancies are nothing to be scoffed at. For an aircrafts internal computers to have multiple failures is almost virtually unheard of. Even in this case we see the computer was working like it should have been. The pilots should have NEVER disabled the computer, and they should have IMMEDIATELY recognized the auto pilot disengaging. This should've snapped them to attention, but it didn't. They were looking for a way to ignore the problem, not deal with it.
Also, my home computer never needs rebooted and maintains proper operation for months lol. I don't know what computer you're using, or how you're using it, but if you have to keep restarting your computer to make it work right, you're doing something wrong and NOT the computer.
I remember this one... The guy yoinked a breaker and killed the plane...
Affirmative action at its best
No you’re just a bigot. Affirmative action. Right. How do YOU sound right now? 🤡 it’s called spatial disorientation and it happens to pilots of all races and backgrounds bigot. Try to keep up.
"So that we don't have another one.... "
Stupydity and laziness will strike again.
Not an excuse for having killed 160 customers.
Even if a pilot gets disorientated, he should be looking at the gauges and make sure the plane is in the right bank and height configuration. If not, make the adjustments!
The verb is "disoriented", not "disorientated [sic]". Unless you wantate to addate superfluous and frivolously pseudo-sophisticated suffixes all over the place. Don't you readate dictionaries?
@@davesmith5656 disorientated
[disˈôrēənˌtādəd]
adjective
BRITISH ENGLISH
having lost one's sense of direction; disoriented:
"when he emerged into the street he was totally disorientated"
confused and unable to think clearly:
@@jamesa.2880 ---- What does, "When he emerged into the street, he was totally disoriented" mean?
Why computers shouldn’t be flying airplanes.
Give me a yoke any day, joysticks are fir games, I don't want the plane doing what it wants too
That cockpit looks pretty bare as far as instruments go.
Four faults should have been enough!!
Better communication and avoid short cuts.
Lessons learned.
Hi
Two ex-geniuses and killers now dead like OJ
Didn’t
Also what about the fact that a joystick that works backwards is counterintuitive to how standard yoke controllers are??? sounds like a step backwards to me
Left goes left, right goes right, forward goes down, back goes up. Seems pretty 1:1 to me.
Sorry It was airbus that caused this to happen with their faulty systems.