I think a lot of the critique of the bag seems to be from those who want to use it more as an EDC and/or travel. This line, though, *is* primarily marketed for the outdoors, hiking, rock climbing, and such. So for those activities, I can see how the plethora of cords would be helpful in lugging around bulky outdoor items. Thank you for the review! I'm exercising a little more patience for the next launch - hopefully an EDC backpack geared more towards non-photographers, but can still cater to broad use cases.
@@mrmonday42Agreed but as someone who backpacks a lot all of my bags with cinch cords have the cord running circumferentially around the opening with the “brain” of the bag then clipping on top. Alternatively my roll-top bags all use clips to secure the roll. I absolutely love how this bag looks and I think there is still plenty of potential so don’t get me wrong but I’m curious to see how the closure works in person if I get the opportunity.
@@MitchKirkham It looks like the rolltop will be secured by the cord unless you fill it to the top. My primary concern is that the kangaroo pocket has no weather protection at all. It will act like a bucket in the rain, so hopefully it has drainage.
The color is perfect. I thought I was decided on what bag I was going to buy as a full size carry on but I think I may wait for the bigger version of this bag instead! Great review
Hi, Thank you for the review. I have question about the back panel. How good is the air venting, coz I'm afraid that I would sweat a lot with this backpack during a summer
Thanks for the review! I am planning on backing the project but torn a bit on the colour. I like the look of the white most but am worried about how dirty it is likely to get. Any thoughts on how easy it will be to clean?
Was also coming to the comments with the exact same thoughts. Love the white color but wondering how easily it picks up dirt or is able to be cleaned off.
As an outdoor hiker who uses Zpack and Hyperlite packs I was thrilled to see a Peak Design roll top, after watching your video I feel the same as you, I don’t like how it unravels when closing. Maybe they can add Velcro or a magnet to hold it in place
All those loops are indeed confusing, slow to use, often with both hands. But I do love the dual option to either use the rolltop (albeit more labor-intensive than normal rolltops) and the clamshell (angels: Ah! ~Ahhh!) to get access the whole internal bag space.
11:33 Hey Christine, just wanted to say thanks for the awesome video! I've got a couple of questions about the Peak Design Outdoor Backpack 25L. Does it have side access to the Camera Cube without needing to open the entire bag? If it does, is it on one side or both sides? Also, is this the older or the latest Peak Design Camera Cube, and what is the size? Thanks!
neither have side access and the side access cubes don't fit the 25 in a way to access them sideways anyway. recommendation on my part would be to strap in a small cube to the top for access through the rolltop and use back access for other things. PD kind of missed the mark with the rolltop imho, wish it had one of their zippers instead of the flimsy magnet solution
@@OdiumTV So, this bag doesn't have side access, and we need to pay for camera cubes separately. Also, the rolltop is closed using magnets instead of proper zippers. Honestly, if it's just an empty shell bag, there are much cheaper options available from other brands.
@@chrisbale11 yep, it's more of a camera cube compatible hiking pack with some cool features than a camera bag. I haven't been this disappointed in PD since the micro clutch... the missing side access makes limited sense for waterproofing I like all the features but not at retail price, the kickstarter price is "ok" for a lifetime guarantee outdoor pack but considering you can pick up a used deuter bag for 10 to 30 bucks that will last you a lifetime regardless it's just a bad sell... personally I might pick up the 2L sling just for the discounted cubes I can snag along with it😅
Translucent white for a hiking bag? I got a headache trying to figure out where Peak Design got a deal on all those bungee cords and how to manage them. Even Kristyne seemed like she was overwhelmed.
I don't know what they were smoking at PD to offer an outdoor backpack in white? It will only look dirty after a very short time. Or is this version only intended for winter use in the snow? Otherwise a bit overengineered as usual with Peak Design and Shimoda.
PD is an outstanding brand but this bag seems way too complex, too packed with overwhelming features and just not handy. If i go out i want something easy to manage and safe
Some cool ideas and decent form factor but WAY too much going on with this bag, the amount of cord dangledge would drive me nuts. Then again, I don't plan on spelunking anytime soon, so this is definitely not a use-case that I need to prepare for.
I do like that you can put the sternum strap away in a pocket, most just dangle and slap against you when not engaged. Seems very ... busy, what with all the bungeee, various pockets, etc.
It looks like the simplest PD bag yet. One main compartment with a rolltop for expansion. One full length kangaroo pocket. Two quick access zipper pockets. and two side water bottle pockets.
Yes the color of the luxrul is beautiful and it is a great decision, maybe one day they will add feet and straps. It would be nice to have a bigger bag during the colder months when we have to store gloves, beanies, scarves, etc ...
Good review! White though seems like an odd color choice for an "adventure" backpack. The bungee cord doesn't seem like it would be durable long term, but. hopefully PD has done some significant stress testing. I think a GoRuck 21 or 26 liter would be a better choice for the targeted market of this bag.
Oh boy. I have the full travel line & multiple other stamps & sling etc but have been frustrated by the pivot to phone cases which seemed to cause them to loose focus. & now this just seems far too Fussy & Flimsy.
This is not refined enough a design and is a surprise from this brand, who is normally really good about, well, design. I absolutely hate the dangling cords off the front; which look perfect to get snagged on some trees while hiking.
That long cord is something that’ll get tangled and knotted up within a week. You’ll end up cutting it off after it gets knotted up or stuck on branches on a trail. Really poor design element imo - you’d think a company like peak design would come up with a better solution to securing that little panel than 2 foot dangling cord.
All I can think of is rain running down into and filling up that front compartment. Damn. And then it'll probably seep into the main compartment via a seam at the bottom. Really weird design choice. They should've put a drain at the bottom of the front compartment at the very least. Or had it attach above and over the top of the bag/rolltop rather than in front. Love the wider shoulder straps, but PD being PD they have to have something narrow and uncomfortable so they chose the grab handle this time. WHY? Initially liked it, not much anymore.
It looks very nice. However, that ponytail on the bag is a dealbreaker for me. Even if it is somewhat magnetic, with the nature of strings, I do not want to get caught going in and out of doors, trains, buses, etc especially when traveling.
This is an outdoor bag, only in the sense that one takes it "outdoors." Calling a bright white bag an "outdoor" bag is clearly just a gimmick. How many bright white Osprey bags does one see? Zero. Or close to it.
@@mikej243outdoor vitals as well. Very popular for the lightweight/ultra lightweight crowd. I just bought a white fast pack that I think looks incredible.
Surprisingly, this is trendy in outdoor products at the moment (see hyperlite, outdoor vitals, etc). People almost take it as a point of pride that the fabric is thin (think lightweight) enough to be seen through but still very water resistant. I just got a new fast pack with that type of fabric and I’m hyped - it’s so ultralight.
look at those manicured hands. an Outdoor bag reviewed by someone who obviously doesn't do what the bag is designed for. I am sorry, it's not reviewed. It's just describing features.
so happy you guys published these videos. Going for the 25
Thanks for watching! 😃
I think a lot of the critique of the bag seems to be from those who want to use it more as an EDC and/or travel. This line, though, *is* primarily marketed for the outdoors, hiking, rock climbing, and such. So for those activities, I can see how the plethora of cords would be helpful in lugging around bulky outdoor items.
Thank you for the review! I'm exercising a little more patience for the next launch - hopefully an EDC backpack geared more towards non-photographers, but can still cater to broad use cases.
Thanks for sharing your insights! 🤙
I like the exterior look of the bag. The Bungie cords and access looks like a hassle to deal with
Most backpacking backpacks use a similar cinch cord system for the main compartment.
@@mrmonday42Agreed but as someone who backpacks a lot all of my bags with cinch cords have the cord running circumferentially around the opening with the “brain” of the bag then clipping on top. Alternatively my roll-top bags all use clips to secure the roll. I absolutely love how this bag looks and I think there is still plenty of potential so don’t get me wrong but I’m curious to see how the closure works in person if I get the opportunity.
@@MitchKirkham It looks like the rolltop will be secured by the cord unless you fill it to the top. My primary concern is that the kangaroo pocket has no weather protection at all. It will act like a bucket in the rain, so hopefully it has drainage.
@@mrmonday42 Very very good point! Hopefully a more outdoor-focused person/company can do a nice review of details like that before release.
The color is perfect. I thought I was decided on what bag I was going to buy as a full size carry on but I think I may wait for the bigger version of this bag instead! Great review
Thanks for watching! 😃
Hi,
Thank you for the review. I have question about the back panel. How good is the air venting, coz I'm afraid that I would sweat a lot with this backpack during a summer
I wouldn’t get white, but man it’s the most visible color for reviews 👍🏻 Super helpful info here, thank you 🙏🏻
Yes! I’m so glad this channel uses lighter colored bags to show off features.
Thanks for the review! I am planning on backing the project but torn a bit on the colour. I like the look of the white most but am worried about how dirty it is likely to get. Any thoughts on how easy it will be to clean?
Was also coming to the comments with the exact same thoughts. Love the white color but wondering how easily it picks up dirt or is able to be cleaned off.
Same here 👍
nice I just saw their kickstarter
Great review. I absolutely love this white/grey colour scheme.
Thanks for watching! 😃
As an outdoor hiker who uses Zpack and Hyperlite packs I was thrilled to see a Peak Design roll top, after watching your video I feel the same as you, I don’t like how it unravels when closing. Maybe they can add Velcro or a magnet to hold it in place
All those loops are indeed confusing, slow to use, often with both hands. But I do love the dual option to either use the rolltop (albeit more labor-intensive than normal rolltops) and the clamshell (angels: Ah! ~Ahhh!) to get access the whole internal bag space.
11:33 Hey Christine, just wanted to say thanks for the awesome video! I've got a couple of questions about the Peak Design Outdoor Backpack 25L. Does it have side access to the Camera Cube without needing to open the entire bag? If it does, is it on one side or both sides? Also, is this the older or the latest Peak Design Camera Cube, and what is the size? Thanks!
neither have side access and the side access cubes don't fit the 25 in a way to access them sideways anyway. recommendation on my part would be to strap in a small cube to the top for access through the rolltop and use back access for other things. PD kind of missed the mark with the rolltop imho, wish it had one of their zippers instead of the flimsy magnet solution
@@OdiumTV So, this bag doesn't have side access, and we need to pay for camera cubes separately. Also, the rolltop is closed using magnets instead of proper zippers. Honestly, if it's just an empty shell bag, there are much cheaper options available from other brands.
@@chrisbale11
yep, it's more of a camera cube compatible hiking pack with some cool features than a camera bag. I haven't been this disappointed in PD since the micro clutch...
the missing side access makes limited sense for waterproofing
I like all the features but not at retail price, the kickstarter price is "ok" for a lifetime guarantee outdoor pack but considering you can pick up a used deuter bag for 10 to 30 bucks that will last you a lifetime regardless it's just a bad sell...
personally I might pick up the 2L sling just for the discounted cubes I can snag along with it😅
Does anyone know if it has a luggage passthrough? I know it’s a hiking pack but I travel a lot with roller bags too. Hoping it can do both?
You can use the bungee to make one
Translucent white for a hiking bag? I got a headache trying to figure out where Peak Design got a deal on all those bungee cords and how to manage them. Even Kristyne seemed like she was overwhelmed.
Tons of outdoor bags from mystery ranch, osprey, arcteryx etc are all available in translucent white.
I don't know what they were smoking at PD to offer an outdoor backpack in white? It will only look dirty after a very short time. Or is this version only intended for winter use in the snow?
Otherwise a bit overengineered as usual with Peak Design and Shimoda.
Could side pouch fits 40oz water bottle?
PD is an outstanding brand but this bag seems way too complex, too packed with overwhelming features and just not handy. If i go out i want something easy to manage and safe
Then… this bag isn’t for you 😊
Some cool ideas and decent form factor but WAY too much going on with this bag, the amount of cord dangledge would drive me nuts. Then again, I don't plan on spelunking anytime soon, so this is definitely not a use-case that I need to prepare for.
glad to see you're around! your reviews are some of my favorites!
Thanks for sharing your insights! 🤙 Always appreciated.
I do like that you can put the sternum strap away in a pocket, most just dangle and slap against you when not engaged. Seems very ... busy, what with all the bungeee, various pockets, etc.
Thanks for sharing your insights! 🤙
It looks like the simplest PD bag yet. One main compartment with a rolltop for expansion. One full length kangaroo pocket. Two quick access zipper pockets. and two side water bottle pockets.
Can the 25L or the 45L fit beneath the airplane front seat?
Best shot is the 25 L for a personal item. It's a little on length but I'm going to use it as that
Did I hear you correctly that the hip belt can be tucked behind the back panel?
Yes 🤙
Yes the color of the luxrul is beautiful and it is a great decision, maybe one day they will add feet and straps. It would be nice to have a bigger bag during the colder months when we have to store gloves, beanies, scarves, etc ...
Rain... It may rain when outdoors... and then the top structure seems IMO to act like a bucket... 😞
What are the measure ?
Looks like a bit of a miss from Peak Design. Outdoor bags are shockingly different from travel and daily bags. Looking forward to V2!
This bag just looks like a lot of fuss. If you’re active or heading outdoors I’m sure most people will benefit more from a simpler design.
12:44 you cant put it width wise? Thats weird….but it looks like u can?
Ohhhhhhhhh baby
🤙🤙🤙
Good review! White though seems like an odd color choice for an "adventure" backpack. The bungee cord doesn't seem like it would be durable long term, but. hopefully PD has done some significant stress testing. I think a GoRuck 21 or 26 liter would be a better choice for the targeted market of this bag.
Looks like a decent bag for rambling. Don’t think it would replace my Berghaus for the mtns tho.
I received their email too.
But this is a prototype or final version ?
Not unbranded zippers. Custom Zoom zippers, higher quality than YKK.
Oh boy. I have the full travel line & multiple other stamps & sling etc but have been frustrated by the pivot to phone cases which seemed to cause them to loose focus.
& now this just seems far too Fussy & Flimsy.
looks like the roll/cinch part can be easily open by someone else while carrying it, not that suitable for travel
This is not refined enough a design and is a surprise from this brand, who is normally really good about, well, design. I absolutely hate the dangling cords off the front; which look perfect to get snagged on some trees while hiking.
That long cord is something that’ll get tangled and knotted up within a week. You’ll end up cutting it off after it gets knotted up or stuck on branches on a trail. Really poor design element imo - you’d think a company like peak design would come up with a better solution to securing that little panel than 2 foot dangling cord.
White + Dangly things + Outdoor Hikes = Oooooo no no no... 🤪
I like the overall look of the bag, but It doesn't look as though Peak Design's R&D includes seeing if you can actually use it day to day.
All I can think of is rain running down into and filling up that front compartment. Damn. And then it'll probably seep into the main compartment via a seam at the bottom. Really weird design choice. They should've put a drain at the bottom of the front compartment at the very least. Or had it attach above and over the top of the bag/rolltop rather than in front. Love the wider shoulder straps, but PD being PD they have to have something narrow and uncomfortable so they chose the grab handle this time. WHY? Initially liked it, not much anymore.
It looks very nice. However, that ponytail on the bag is a dealbreaker for me. Even if it is somewhat magnetic, with the nature of strings, I do not want to get caught going in and out of doors, trains, buses, etc especially when traveling.
Thanks for sharing your insights! 🤙
This is an outdoor bag, only in the sense that one takes it "outdoors." Calling a bright white bag an "outdoor" bag is clearly just a gimmick. How many bright white Osprey bags does one see? Zero. Or close to it.
Idk, it's good if you want more visibility though.
Yeah I suppose. But that’s what lights are for 🤷♂️
Hyperlite and Mystery Ranch also do undyed translucent white hiking bags. This is common for ultra light gear.
@@mikej243outdoor vitals as well. Very popular for the lightweight/ultra lightweight crowd. I just bought a white fast pack that I think looks incredible.
Oh good, I was worried the color would make it too heavy.
Not just white, but translucent so you can see through it? LOL
👀👀👀
Surprisingly, this is trendy in outdoor products at the moment (see hyperlite, outdoor vitals, etc). People almost take it as a point of pride that the fabric is thin (think lightweight) enough to be seen through but still very water resistant. I just got a new fast pack with that type of fabric and I’m hyped - it’s so ultralight.
White and outdoor - should not exist in one sentence
SO many of the best ultralight hiking bags are white. It's totally normal.
@@jayeadsthis 100%. Just bought an all white bag from outdoor vitals and I love it. Very much in style these days.
@@MitchKirkham the 40 or the fastpack? We have the fastpack and it’s AMAZING
It's so fiddly and slow
Luggage Passthrough 😢
This bag just doesn't cut it for me!
Very ugly backpack
Such a fussy and ugly bag, doesn’t look it would stand up well in outdoor use.
PD got distracted
look at those manicured hands. an Outdoor bag reviewed by someone who obviously doesn't do what the bag is designed for. I am sorry, it's not reviewed. It's just describing features.
PD should stay out of outdoor gear.
Why
@@czaynej1051 If you used a lot of outdoor gear, it would be obvious.
@@ZacchaeusNifong I use a lot of outdoor gear and this looks like a great lightweight backpack design
@@mrmonday42 okie dokie
@@ZacchaeusNifong I do use a lot of outdoor gear, nothing about this is particularly offensive at all.
Does not look like rugged outdoor bag. It is advertised for climbing. 😀 Maybe, they might call it Bag ULTRA. 😂🤣😂
Too many cords. Tangled mess. No thanks on this bag - poor design.