Guitar Hero 3 Beta - "Through The Fire and Flames" Chart Comparison (Expert Guitar)

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @acai28
    @acai28 11 месяцев назад +219

    Beta solo is so much tougher than final. I still can’t believe we got this chart

  • @cosmicjenny4508
    @cosmicjenny4508 11 месяцев назад +97

    I'm losing my mind specifically at the orange wall at 4:59, Chris Vance was out for BLOOD when he charted this version.
    We are eating goooood this week.

  • @BenAck912
    @BenAck912 11 месяцев назад +94

    "Through The Fire And Flames but it was made in a time before the light."

    • @Mickelraven
      @Mickelraven 11 месяцев назад +9

      I think it was made on a cold winter morning.

  • @Norami4U
    @Norami4U 11 месяцев назад +58

    That one strum note here. 0:41

    • @Norami4U
      @Norami4U 11 месяцев назад +5

      Also would you say beta is harder than Smash Hits?

    • @DACARBOSS.
      @DACARBOSS. 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Norami4Uyes

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah I think so@@Norami4U

    • @Ultimalocked
      @Ultimalocked 11 месяцев назад +1

      I wonder if that note is an accident or something. Looks like something in Moonscraper where if you place the note a little too far it won’t automatically assign itself as a HOPO like the rest. Do we know if the official charting software was similar in this regard?

    • @dvon1097
      @dvon1097 Месяц назад

      ​@@Norami4U SH is by far the easiest of the 3 charts. Then 3, then the Beta.

  • @truesmashfan127
    @truesmashfan127 11 месяцев назад +15

    That beta chart was interesting. Several parts in that chart were all over the place and some were just evil. I was also not expecting that part in the Climactic Build-Up section or the part in the Rampaging Dragons section, either. Wow.

  • @cicabeot1
    @cicabeot1 11 месяцев назад +43

    4:59 has gotta be the opposite of what happened with Ballroom Blitz in 80s. Instead of some jackass deciding to overchart it for the final release, they actually showed some mercy and charted this more sensibly. I bet Chris would’ve taken at least…two more days to FC this back in the day if the beta chart was the final version.

  • @Birbusyt
    @Birbusyt 11 месяцев назад +17

    This is GH history right here. So happy to see a beta build. Here's hoping for more!

  • @michel.fssouza
    @michel.fssouza 11 месяцев назад +4

    Good to see people making vídeos of the great and old guitar hero

  • @connorleake2472
    @connorleake2472 11 месяцев назад +11

    The ending for the beta was nasty. I'd lose my mind.

  • @blakespinelli6969
    @blakespinelli6969 11 месяцев назад +10

    what a huge fucking month for these series

  • @predeterminedmeat5024
    @predeterminedmeat5024 11 месяцев назад +19

    4:59 That would've taken a while to get down. TTFAF FC might've taken a lot longer. 7:02 as well

  • @swinelias
    @swinelias 11 месяцев назад +3

    And to think the beta chart was going to be much more difficult. That's wild. In fact, it looks like this month was wild for both RB and GH in terms of beta versions of their games. Nice.

    • @Grandtarkus
      @Grandtarkus 11 месяцев назад

      What happened with RB? Was there a beta leak?

    • @swinelias
      @swinelias 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Grandtarkus more or less, yeah. Specifically an early build of the Wii version of RB3, which among all had some charts for songs that never made it to the main RB3 song list. Although not all of them were 100% finished, but still.

  • @Leyuhm
    @Leyuhm 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for the comparison upload to save me time lmao

  • @sirkjohno0129
    @sirkjohno0129 11 месяцев назад +2

    Waiting for the day certainly came sooner than I expected 😂

  • @robinmist
    @robinmist Месяц назад

    surprising how the same song can have such different versions

  • @TnZay
    @TnZay 11 месяцев назад +19

    That beta chart is definitely a chart lol

  • @josh_uz1520
    @josh_uz1520 11 месяцев назад +24

    Its clear the person that hoarded this wanted to steer attention away from Fortnite Festival

    • @deathmeowtal1503
      @deathmeowtal1503 11 месяцев назад +3

      They knew about fortnite festival 10 years ago?

  • @TheBassSinger
    @TheBassSinger 11 месяцев назад +5

    As jankier as the old chart is, I kind of wanted them to keep it just because judging from the default score, 1 Mil for this song might be possible.

  • @maddogupc
    @maddogupc 11 месяцев назад +13

    I think it's possible to get 1000k score with optimized star power

    • @BlissBee
      @BlissBee 11 месяцев назад

      No duh its been done on the official chart

    • @zacharycollins4958
      @zacharycollins4958 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@BlissBee It's not possible in GH3 though as I believe it requires overlapping star powers which wasn't a feature back then. Beta chart might have enough extra notes to make it possible.

    • @BlissBee
      @BlissBee 11 месяцев назад

      @@zacharycollins4958 ohhhhh

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@BlissBee not on gh3 it has not.

    • @jshooa4840
      @jshooa4840 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@BlissBeeon clone hero, yes. On original guitar hero 3, no.

  • @ducksnsg2793
    @ducksnsg2793 11 месяцев назад +2

    Should’ve used your own FC! I would never live a TTFAF FC down ever. So damn impressive❤

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  11 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you! I used a high hyperspeed setting in my video, and I typically don't like using hyperspeed in videos like this so it's easier to glance between both charts without the notes flying at you real quick.

  • @DACARBOSS.
    @DACARBOSS. 11 месяцев назад +3

    holy shit soulless through the fire and flames 4

  • @raydog_97
    @raydog_97 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Rock Meter and Score Meter were both raised up just little bit in the final, if you look at the strikeline on beta the rock meter and score meter are a little lower
    Edit: The Beta strikeline is fucking sick man

  • @Lightally16
    @Lightally16 10 месяцев назад

    At first, I noticed chords in places where the commercial release didn't have them, leading to an early score differential. Then the interspersed strum notes among the HOPO sections. As many others have said: evil

  • @Erberberberi69
    @Erberberberi69 11 месяцев назад

    Its so awsome we got acces to this chart!

  • @OBSmustang
    @OBSmustang 11 месяцев назад +6

    1:48 That part should of made the cut. It's not much harder and it sounds correct.

  • @marchellokocakgaming5616
    @marchellokocakgaming5616 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks, Darkly

  • @froloffanton
    @froloffanton 11 месяцев назад +4

    Funny how Solo Fill II remains un-nerfed in the co-op rhythm chart.

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  11 месяцев назад +3

      Wow I didn't even realize that! It's slightly different, but much closer to the prototype chart than the final lead chart.

    • @froloffanton
      @froloffanton 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@aWiseMoose as most of us probably already know, Mother in GHII also had an un-nerfed outro solo in Co-Op. I wonder if it’s just a simple oversight, a leftover from Beta they didn’t remember to balance out the way the lead chart was.

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  11 месяцев назад +3

      @@froloffanton I think you might be on to something with that theory

  • @icekyng219
    @icekyng219 8 месяцев назад +1

    if we had the beta version with the right squeeze for points, u could get a mil on gh3

  • @MetalMoshin
    @MetalMoshin 11 месяцев назад +2

    0:32 can anyone explain to me how the score is slightly different even though the same number of notes were hit including sustains?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  11 месяцев назад +4

      The prototype calculates points gained from sustains differently than the final version.

    • @MetalMoshin
      @MetalMoshin 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@aWiseMoose ah, thanks for the clarification.

  • @fluxie31_old
    @fluxie31_old 11 месяцев назад +4

    It'd be cool to see ExileLord's squeeze bot to squeeze this, see if 1mil is possible

    • @froloffanton
      @froloffanton 11 месяцев назад +1

      I bet it would’ve been. Adding the base score difference of 5048 into the optimal score of 991934 brings it to 996982. You’d only need to score more 3018 points under a revamped SP path. That’s getting just ~15 more single notes under 8x multiplier. It’s not this simple of course, considering the non-overlapping SP of GH3, but seeing as there release chart is more or less just a nerfed version, I believe 1mil would’ve been, and I heavily put this in parentheses, ”easily” possible.

  • @coldzero8584
    @coldzero8584 11 месяцев назад +1

    my jaw absolutely hit the floor when I saw 5:00 for the first time

  • @brandonjohnson260
    @brandonjohnson260 11 месяцев назад

    You know that the beta chart has 20 more notes than the final, so that's why some of the sections in the beta chart are very hard to do.

  • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
    @Rusli1659LPSoldier 11 месяцев назад

    the only difference between Beta and the final product version of Guitar Hero 3 is that the Final Product just left out 33 notes so thats why the final product chart was different to the beta version.

  • @trooperV2003
    @trooperV2003 11 месяцев назад +1

    Chris really looked at this and said: Yeah this fucking sucks, release it

  • @trooperV2003
    @trooperV2003 11 месяцев назад +6

    2:45 just two different ideas entirely

    • @paulsd9255
      @paulsd9255 11 месяцев назад +1

      It probably went in the ‘bass’ chart

  • @dvon1097
    @dvon1097 Месяц назад

    Can you possibly do a comparison between Smash hits and 3?

  • @snes9xv129
    @snes9xv129 11 месяцев назад

    1M POSSIBLE, I want to see it

  • @Fabeyon1027
    @Fabeyon1027 11 месяцев назад

    Would love the beta chart in Clone Hero

  • @venticated
    @venticated 11 месяцев назад +1

    i bet alot of records would not have happened if the beta version became the final version cause alot of the sections are way harder lol.

  • @TR1PLE_6
    @TR1PLE_6 11 месяцев назад +4

    5K points difference between them. Could 1M be possible in the beta chart? 👀

    • @she.luv.hexiii
      @she.luv.hexiii 11 месяцев назад

      It’s already possible lol

    • @Jarran2R
      @Jarran2R 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@she.luv.hexiiiit’s possible in clone hero with star power overlap, but not in gh3 which doesn’t have star power overlap

    • @sh4rpys
      @sh4rpys 11 месяцев назад

      @@she.luv.hexiii Not in guitar hero 3

  • @claudetheclaudeqc6600
    @claudetheclaudeqc6600 11 месяцев назад

    Now I wonder if you squezze everything, how much a bot could do whit the sp power?

  • @SaiyanCherry
    @SaiyanCherry Месяц назад

    Anyone uses the magic eye trick and can watch this in “3D”

  • @guitarherojay
    @guitarherojay 11 месяцев назад +7

    This chart is different

  • @paulsd9255
    @paulsd9255 11 месяцев назад +2

    Are y gonna do the rhythm chart too?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  11 месяцев назад +2

      Wasn't planning on it, but I could.

  • @MKNerdMusic
    @MKNerdMusic 11 месяцев назад +3

    Still a better chart than “Slither” by Velvet Revolver. 💀

  • @LordSnowman
    @LordSnowman 11 месяцев назад +1

    Did you really play the beta by hand?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  11 месяцев назад +2

      No, this is bot gameplay for both.

    • @LordSnowman
      @LordSnowman 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@aWiseMoose Oh, I felt like it was a struggle to FC them by hand.

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@LordSnowman its already been fc'd

  • @mennymanuel28
    @mennymanuel28 11 месяцев назад

    Final ver feels better, but beta is harder

  • @verbatimc3
    @verbatimc3 11 месяцев назад

    b e t a

  • @carloscarrillo9183
    @carloscarrillo9183 11 месяцев назад

    Easy 😎👌🏻

  • @sBViC
    @sBViC 11 месяцев назад

    Hi

  • @AnnieH-c3f
    @AnnieH-c3f 5 месяцев назад

    Beta sucks I like the original version of gh3

  • @igorgarcez9242
    @igorgarcez9242 11 месяцев назад

    First