@@kimzee3812split is pretty much a 50/50. You can either fully lock down A site, and get a kill, or do one trip for ramp and one for deep site, but its more harder to get kills, usually just for info. B site is pretty much hard to control, as most of them will destroy the trip before you can spam, so the only thing you can do is pop a one-way and hope for good timing to spray into it.
@@DankSammy with the nerf u can't play viper anymore in low elo since she isn't viable as a solo,I know she was never a solo controller but in low elo she was played like that since no more molie can't stop sit push
She was able to stall longer than a sentinel like sage without even being seen + had amazing controller util. I’m p sure that helped low elo as long as they’re using their util. Sure she won’t feel crazy oppressive per se bc her util doesn’t directly give u kills most of the time like cypher. But she was a better sentinel than most sentinels while still being a top controller option so she just had too much impact and too little trade offs
“nAts washed” is a wild take, he hasn’t been peaking but he’s been consistent at the very least. he’s probably one of the biggest factors of liquid even staying afloat, if barely
Idk about that all because i see the game from a ranked player pov. For me the update showed how the dev started showing their laziness. Instead of buffing her counterparts so that they can compete against viper they nerf her to the ground more , this is like the 5th time in a row she get nerfed. Big audio nerf for cypher cam intended for "lower elo" players is some of the weakest reasoning for an unnecessary nerf. No map pool shuffle or even an update/adjustification atleast for Icebox/Breeze , two of the worst designed map in the pool right now that people have been begging to be fixed/updated/remove.
First riot cares more about pro play compare to ranked Second buffing other agents just gonna create powercreep Like come on dude jett got nerf to the ground and still really good in rank & proplay people yapping too early
@@nonsense0000 you misunderstood , I'm not saying Im mad because Viper would be bad. Never I said Viper would be bad. I'm saying I don't like their decision to nerf her (again) instead buffing other to give Viper a competition in the meta hence why the "laziness" comment. Cause I'm with you about Viper will still be good in ranked and after this nerf she still be your go to in Icebox/Breeze , but after the 5th time of nerf they should realize that maybe it's not Viper its the other agents that need some lift up on their kit to compete against her.
@@zakral1then leave the team. If he is really that good someone will pick him up. Guys probably staying for a reason. Either no other offers or thinks that other offers may not come his way. That’s a washed brand name.
So basically they nerfed FNS before his return to pro play huh
He already got nerfed with his aim bro, ript did fns so dirty 💀💀
It's PUCHAN.
@@ZorN79 can you explain why everyone is calling him like that
@@baizeval idk twitch chat is wierd and so am I.
@@baizevalit was a twitter thing between him and s0m
Honestly all the nerfs are livable with but they should have kept her 2 mollys
As a cypher main since release, he is probably very fair now. Sunset and Ascent meta is too annoying, even as a cypher player lol
Wbt split lmao
@@kimzee3812split is pretty much a 50/50. You can either fully lock down A site, and get a kill, or do one trip for ramp and one for deep site, but its more harder to get kills, usually just for info. B site is pretty much hard to control, as most of them will destroy the trip before you can spam, so the only thing you can do is pop a one-way and hope for good timing to spray into it.
Problem is the Map Pool and not Viper
Riot just sucks.
Devs are dumb
I don't know about high elo but viper is not oppressive in low elo especially since there will be only one controller
also low elo can't really utilize her properly so yea....
Then the nerf does nothing
On maps like breeze and icebox viper is a must even in low elo😊
@@DankSammy with the nerf u can't play viper anymore in low elo since she isn't viable as a solo,I know she was never a solo controller but in low elo she was played like that since no more molie can't stop sit push
She was able to stall longer than a sentinel like sage without even being seen + had amazing controller util. I’m p sure that helped low elo as long as they’re using their util. Sure she won’t feel crazy oppressive per se bc her util doesn’t directly give u kills most of the time like cypher. But she was a better sentinel than most sentinels while still being a top controller option so she just had too much impact and too little trade offs
“nAts washed” is a wild take, he hasn’t been peaking but he’s been consistent at the very least. he’s probably one of the biggest factors of liquid even staying afloat, if barely
I’m sad… I picked up cipher cuz he was ass and I never thought they’d touch him then they mega buffed him lol
You…thought cypher was bad!? How is bronze these days????
@@tylerrobblee8038 old cypher was ass
@@tylerrobblee8038well not ass, but not effective in most maps
So out of touch with casual play its insane
it just sucks t hey nerfed her when 2 of the current maps have her as necessary
Idk about that all because i see the game from a ranked player pov. For me the update showed how the dev started showing their laziness. Instead of buffing her counterparts so that they can compete against viper they nerf her to the ground more , this is like the 5th time in a row she get nerfed. Big audio nerf for cypher cam intended for "lower elo" players is some of the weakest reasoning for an unnecessary nerf. No map pool shuffle or even an update/adjustification atleast for Icebox/Breeze , two of the worst designed map in the pool right now that people have been begging to be fixed/updated/remove.
why buff them all? we don't want controllers to be an OP role. Just play other agents, it's boring if the meta doesn't change
First riot cares more about pro play compare to ranked
Second buffing other agents just gonna create powercreep
Like come on dude jett got nerf to the ground and still really good in rank & proplay people yapping too early
Bro does NOT know how to game design
I promise you, you don't want Astra to get buffed.
@@nonsense0000 you misunderstood , I'm not saying Im mad because Viper would be bad. Never I said Viper would be bad. I'm saying I don't like their decision to nerf her (again) instead buffing other to give Viper a competition in the meta hence why the "laziness" comment. Cause I'm with you about Viper will still be good in ranked and after this nerf she still be your go to in Icebox/Breeze , but after the 5th time of nerf they should realize that maybe it's not Viper its the other agents that need some lift up on their kit to compete against her.
not sad by cypher updates, viper is destroyed according to me
Viper in ranked is dead. That’s it.
nAts is not washed, its more like his TEAMmates that washed.
viper is dead but cypher is fiiine
nAts washed is kinda false no?
I wish
he just cant prove himself because his team is bad
@@zakral1 exactly,his mates aint the best ngl
literally nAts is the only BEST PLAYER on his team.. his teammates is sucks.
@@zakral1then leave the team. If he is really that good someone will pick him up. Guys probably staying for a reason. Either no other offers or thinks that other offers may not come his way. That’s a washed brand name.