We couldn't believe Pokimane was this GOOD...
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024
- Poki has been playing chess for less than 2 weeks before this lesson. We decided to test her in a practice game, and she exceeded all our expectations! Drop a like and tell us in the comments, if you are excited to see her compete in PogChamps 3!
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“Whoever trained you is really good.”
Hikaru is Yoda at this point.
more like Kenji from Mortal Kombat
Nah, Hikaru is not a good teacher. He teaches advanced stuff, long lines and openings that are overwhelming for a beginners. Beginners need to be taught how to not blunder first. Basic, simple stuff. Simple tips and tricks
@@milannesic5718 Completely agree. Hikaru is a great player, but imho not the best teacher. Daniel Naroditzky for example is a waaay better teacher imo.
@@milannesic5718 I think you're right but didn't poki get everything she displayed here from Hikaru's lesson ? I'm not sure but if it's the case then it's still remarquable how fast she learned and maybe Hikaru's lesson worked pretty good with her.
@@BlacksterVFX i watch hikaru to be impressed, i watch danya to improve
Pokimane's inner Hikaru: "true true true...yeah yeah true"
Logical logical...
when she said,"decent" i instantly thought of Hikaru.
The iffy hits me hard
"Ah, now it's just winning. Let's take a juicer"
she literally doesn't care
How love of genuine how the Botez sisters actually explain how the gambit and openings and endgames work. They explain it well and they ask Poki questions and give her the option to explain how her brain is working around the challenges of a game.
Great coaching ! Poki is getting fed such amazing coaching from Hikaru Nakamura and the Botez Sisters
@@Neverrrrr311 Don't forget Anna
ruclips.net/video/3EdU0YqkGYk/видео.html
Don't be so nice, it's cringe Emma.
@@monkmonk2133 yea man, grabahan
besides my crush on alex and poki and ok andrea tooo ;) well said. because this is exactly what i like about there vids.. alex is really smart and would be the awesome fun teacher that you wish class didnt end ;)
Never has there been a more friendly/entertaining chess stream. “We’ll pull up your stream to look at your arrows” lol
Lol I mean they are her coaching her
when did we have tea???? u spiked my drink didnt you ;)
But pokimane is noob
the voices of them made me smile. I am hearing alexandra sounds like a news anchor, while pokimane sounds like a online game streamer then andrea sounds like field news reporter.
Simp
@@bs-rz2hf how? I just said that it made me smile but not like a creepy one. hahaha
@@acebishbi Don't worry about it. Only trolls and incels call people "simp."
@@bs-rz2hf do you even know what simp is?
Alex voices so strong characteristic,smart brain,gentle heart.perfom like a queen.
I need you guys to make a playlist of videos like this where you instruct low-level players. It is super interesting to watch fans very very helpful for me.
The best one is Andrea's 10 tips for beginners, but perhaps that's TOO low-level for you!
The one where Alex plays Andrea and explains every move she makes is also helpful. I think it's called "I play my sister but explain every move.
I have2 learn 2
Italians: Fianchetto
The rest of the world: feeankedoh
The "doh" part would be US only though.
I forgot what Boxbox called it. I think it was about a coffee or some dessert
@@markb4613 frappucinho or something close to that
most non English speakers get it pretty right because English orthography is messed up
Since when was the whole world the USA?
Really, really impressive, instructive and entertaining video. Poki is a natural, Team Botez know how to nurture talent, and the whole thing was fun. This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship. I am kinda surprised that good players can even remember the challenges that beginners face.
I think i have played for like 3 weeks and im 800, is that good or no?
@@SETH-fg5jn yeah man just keep at it, as you play more and get more experience of things to look out for your rating will go up more
A natural? I hear she's just hired grandmasters to train her. Money bought skill.
I've never given chess a second thought in life... Somehow I came across the Botez Sisters and have fallen love with the game. Because of them it has opened up and new chapter in life. I have followed other chess players and watched Hikaru on his streams and seen him on Coffee Chess(seams like a guy's guy, so genuine) Hearing you talk about the tactics and nuances of the game using words like Files etc makes simply come alive in me. This new wave of chess in the air is so interesting and awesome... I don't know why I feel like this being I do not play. Such a wonderful stream. Wonderful ladies... all three of you.. Keep it up. (I'm open for a trainer) lol
Shes definetlly better than wilbur...
Now I just want her to say" bang bang bang" each time she moves
@Lo Fell wait, she did?
@@xEEEa7iu231 that doesnt sound like poki, if u dont hear it come from her dont believe it lol
@@xEEEa7iu231 dont believe random youtube comments lol
@@Parenegade aint nobody trustin shit thats why i was askin for more details 😐 calm tf down
Another dimension to the beauty of chess
Haha! Favorite 😅
That was a good one, nice chemistry between you and Poki
37:15 blunders knight lmao
Pro tip for Andrea: French words seldom end in "o". 😀
Not phonetically. It can be spelled as "eau"
Literally water is O in French.
@@Turalcar eu doesn't sounds O
@@Mrnoelig22 ok then
@@Mrnoelig22 it does lmao
So nice, friendly and soft, no trashtalk this time 😂
Nobody dares to trashtalk Queen Poki and her army of simps. If I saw any negative comment about her I would report your comment from all my 28 alt accounts and report you to the cyber police then order s*x toys to your house every day. Watch out, kids, we Poki fans are tough. 💪💪💪
@@wooshbait36 still simping?
This is my favorite chess content creators because they are so funny and enjoyable to watch. Keep up the good work!!
i agree
People forget that Poki was studying to be an engineer at one point.
"forget" more like didn't know
@@jomatejko I thought it was common knowledge myself. But yeah she was studying to be an engineer, can confirm.
She's actually a smart person maybe that's why some people hates her so much
@@Boorosan For me it's the ear piercing laugh and her victimhood mentality when anyone criticizes her on anything.
@@landonburns5208 she actually takes criticism pretty well. especially considering there’s so many people who hate/criticize her! :)
37:17 --> The sisters blundering the knight but poki not even noticing.
Better luck next time :)
dude when i saw that she moved the bishop to c2 i was actually so mad cuz it was a easy to see non-defended knight that could have been taken easily
Sorry. I don't understand how you would get the knight(?) Couldn't an attack be defended with the bishop?
@@nickloader3184 no the bishop that black had only went on the black squares and couldn't defend
@@blinkbruh1513 Sorry. Still not quite getting it. The knight is also on black.
@@blinkbruh1513 So we're on the same page: ... Nf7. Ra7 Bc8 (I assume avoiding potential pin is better) ... then what?
they're all so charming and better than me at chess, 40 minutes later i watched the whole thang, take my attention RUclips algorithm take it
Down bad
@@commonlogic3646 some say he never got back up
@@willbaskin700 a hell of ballad to be sang by future folk singers!
Awwww this is so wholesome and adorable
Love the blockchamps
She’ll be amazing. Imane is pretty smart and a knowledge sponge. Her analysis with basically minimal training is pretty solid overall.
she is 400 rated she won't do amazing
@@jebbush3130 she's only been playing for 2 weeks when this was streamed
@@hodotoi her rating has been pretty stagnant over the last 12 days, looking at her profile
and pogchamps is in 3 weeks already, so her rating won't be that much higher
so she won't do amazing
She's gonna get absolutely bodied in PogChamps, just doesn't play enough
@@hodotoi It's been almost 1 month that I keep hearing 'She's been only playing for 2 weeks'
Poki isn't on a tireless grind, but does manage to put in a game of two a day which is probably healthy when supplemented with puzzles. It's fun to watch her improvement. She has won her last 3 games , two of them with 75% and 95% accuracy. In between was 20% but mostly because it lasted for 70 moves and she dirty flagged her opponent.
People have her as contester for winning Pogchamps. I wouldn't go that far, but I hope she goes for the champions bracket.
I actually have some money on pokimane. Who do you think is the favorite?
@@LeoStaley Hard to put your odds on a single person, but It's easy to go by rating. Ludwig and Charlie for example are simply way ahead of Poki in terms of experience. There's no guarantee she can catch up to them. Haven't thoroughly examined all the contestants though. The lineup seems mildly easier this time around but I haven't had the time to see someone like Negreanu. I also believe that more people might get announced. I could see someone like Bjergsen go crazy in this tournament.
She was bad though. Very bad. In the game she won on time, instead of capturing the rook with her king, she ran away. Ok, might have missed that rook was not protected. In the next few moves she gave check with her bishop, and she had a choice to take two rooks. One rook was pinned, and one is not. If she takes the pinned rook, opponent will recapture the bishop. Other rook was completely free to take, and the other rook would still be pinned after. But she took the pinned rook. A huge mistake. In the next few moves, instead of pushing the pawn that was obviously protected by her rook, she ran with her king to protect the pawn first, that was already protected by the rook. That was the game vs Zidde2248
She already has an advantage by taking the game seriously
@@milannesic5718 The Zidde game was awful, but some times opponents take you down to their level. I do remember the situation with the pinned rook where I thought she spotted a nice fork on the rook and king when she made the move 38.Be6+, but she either missed it or forgot about it when Zidde blocked with another rook (this one protected by the king) and she simply saw a winning exchange and took it. She also missed some hanging queens and rooks despite being good on time but, when you're new, you can be prone to miss when the big scary queen right next to your king actually isn't defended. Espcially when your oppenent already has two queens and you game plan is simply take advantage of the opponent getting low on time and hiding behind your pawns. Some times you don't wanna give your opponent the chance to think on your turn and it actually paid off for her here.
Again, these are the sort of things she needs to improve on to win pogchamps, but that game was one of her worst and an outlier in so many ways. I'm more focused on her two other games vs pablo and botboy...
In the mean time I've discovered a new game vs serhuns... To be kind to poki, I won't look on that one for too long ^^;
The beat chess stream I've ever seen! Enjoyed it a lot!
Play with neil degrass tyson
Haven’t heard breadth first vs depth first in the context of chess before. Good mental model 💡
they talk about defending through pieces
29:51 - instead of doing the same, moving the rook to e7, they defend c7 the other way :)
If rook e7, then bishop d5 wins the knight.
@@Joncwcxxx well, it is not an obvious move. And there is still Rxd7. So, if pawn takes exd7 then Nd8 and GOOD LUCK kicking the knight out of there. Or you can instead of exd7 take knight with bishop, Bxc6, and black replies with Re7, and again good luck defending this advanced pawn, yes, you move bishop back, but white is down a rook now. Well, I'm not that good player, only around 1600-1700, maybe there is another line which I'm missing.
This was super entertaining to watch! I'm also learning openings and end game moves, so this was very helpful on top of this video being really funny to watch. Y'all seem so natural together like Y'all known eachother for years!
I notice that Poki somehow has a subconscious vision on the control of squares. After Qd2, correct me if I'm wrong but I would say she has a dominant space control. I would assume that a Grandmaster seeing this should be amazed in her choice of moves.
pawn should have promoted at 35:30 instead of rook takes. Nothing except Kh6 could have been prevented Queen takes h5 checkm8 the next turn. and there would not have been knight plunder.
Except it’s not a checkmate because blocks with bishop. I played it through its a little bit of a process but it is still winning either way but I think promoting would be better too tbh
The Botez sisters are SO GREAT OMG. So smart, clever, articulate, amazing coaches. Great work ladies, can't wait for more 🥰
Thank you for bringing Poki here :D
the outros are kinda fire, every video is different. As a viewer, I appreciate the variety.
16:55 another good move would be to pin the knight with the bishop by moving it to a4 and they can't block with the pawn because it would just be hanging
16:24 DUDESSSSSS CHECK POKI'S EYESSS👀
You need jesus
touch some grass man
go outside
18:05 - 18:55 nana girl, we brother ain't telling you that bishop b3 check move
Knowing how to do something and being able to teach it are two different things. Here, the Botez sisters nail them both. What great teaching. I’m guessing they got that from Papa Botez but left out the trash talk.
I was going to say the same thing; both are excellent instructors, very clear, very articulate......all the sister goofing around goes out the window when they start talking chess. I'm picking up stuff I never could get my mind around when others tried to show me, or when I flipped through a chess book.
Its funny how one of the major disagreements was about putting the rooks in the semiopen files. This is a typical high level strategy issue to solve and there's no straightforward rule. Most common semiopen files in normal openings are d-e-f and c-d-e, so often we have 3 files and only 2 rooks. Only high positional understanding and experience can make this stuff easy, otherwise is really painful and more often than not one regrets, like "I should've put the *other* rook here".
I used to be afraid to use my queen when I 1st started playing. I'd leave her in the back row doing virtually nothing , and only bring her out when I had to or for end game. Then I got more confidence and I use the Botez Gambit atleast once a day lol
Poki is definitely a natural
@Alex & Andrea
17:44 You talked about white moving Pawn A4 Or moving the queen, but all I see is Bishop A4 to pin the black queen. You didn't talk about this possibility so I suppose its a really bad move. I just want some tips about why its not a good move. The white bishop is not protecting anything, so why not using it to attack? If black move Pawn B5 as answer, its a free pawn...
Other spots should try out the PogChamps format. I'd watch the hell out of a show that's about Federer and Nadal couching a middle-aged accountant and chubby plumber to play against each other in a high-stakes tennis tournament.
Imagine if Andrea becomes a 2800 and her signature move is mating after Queen sacks, called the Botez mate. That would be BOSS
Has anyone wondered how 15x2 mins chess stretched to 45 mins gameplay?
A grand master with a rating over 400
lol
aren't they all?
@@mustafaabdeltawwab1712 That's a really good point. xD
I don't think any real grandmaster only has 400 elo under their belt. xD
400 and above is accurate in a sense.
@@dsdsspp7130 It's a Joke, QTCinderella asked chess dot com to give her the title.
As a new player that try to get familiar with the London opening i learned a lot here, thank you. :)
Two bishop pairs is definitely better than a bishop and a knight. Once you trade a bishop, you got 3 bishops vs one knight! :P
The fact that Alex thinks she's old at 25...
😂
The distance between 25 and 32 has been astounding
Not gonna lie, when I was learning chess I came up with an opening for myself and was very proud of it. Later I got to know that it's called London system
I think she could have pushed the pawn rather than taking the rook, then takenh5 with queen to check, force the bishop to defend, check again on f7 take f5 check, and then capture the rook with the queen
Yes. I am with you too. Push to e8 and get a Queen. Even if Black RxR, then QxN on c6 and you are left with a Queen rather than a Rook to continue.
Say if NxR after the pawn promotion to Queen on e8, then Qg8 protected by Bishop, forcing the king to go to either h6 or g6 and then Qe6 forcing Kh7 return. Then take QxR on c8 before smashing the before mentioned pawn structure. Hence taking both Knight and Rook and the before mentioned pawn structure. Another line is after g8 P=Q NxRd8, Qxh5+ Bh6 (only can block), Qe8 and then whatever Black does either move the knight anywhere at Nf7 or Ne6 or Nc6 or Nb7 then QxRc8, if Knight is on f7 or e6, then BxNf7 or BxNe6, then to prolong the eventual Checkmate black does some Black Bishop movements and so long as King does not get away via h5 to a pawn and king trap and that your queen is not on a black square, then checkmate is eventual. Best to move your bishop away from f7 to either e8 or e6 and your queen rotates between the white squares, avoiding three repetition sequence, take the black bishop if it is away from king to free up more squares to checkmate.
To those wondering why white didn’t to Rc7 at 39:28, it’s because Bd4+ gets her out of the pin/skewer.
You can get a GM Title in your name just by having connections. Those are some nice perks. 😉
So its pay to win, basically? Or is it just like the site can grant you custom title permissions, and you can put whatever you want there?
@@joshuadalton6063 no it's not pay to win. Site just grants custom titles to some people.
Thanks! Y’all played your parts 👌 Fun and deliberate exhibition. 😄 😂
It's insane how good Pokimane is.
it's also entertaining for them to argue and agree on things
Hmm... Honestly, Poki is getting stronger. She can probably adopt me in a chess game 10 to 1. xD
But I don't think she has a shot against a lot of the contenders in Pogchamps 3, mainly due to her lack of seeing hanging pieces of her opponents (under time pressure in this case) and having trouble visualizing number of attackers and defenders.
Most of her opponents are rated 1000 and above.
I really do hope I'm wrong on this one. I like cheering for underdogs.
I mean, she's got a month. Hafu shows you could do it with enough hard work
@@Mentaljedi True... But the thing is, I think it's realistic to not expect "a Hafu in Poki". It's one of the life lessons I had to learn the hard way.
Don't expect to find myself from someone else. Same applies to everyone. It's either Poki isn't determined enough, or maybe Poki is way more determined than Hafu ever was. That's on her.
Also, I think Hafu already started a 1000 when she had a month to prepare for Pogchamps.
And yes, Poki has a month, but so do others. Charlie (PenguinZ/Moistcr1tikal) for example is possibly an 1100 or 1200 elo at this point, currently being trained by GM Daniel Naroditsky, "The Prophet". He already knows more advanced tactics and is currently practicing the Accelerated Dragon variation of the Sicilian Defense and the Vienna Gambit for the white pieces.
XQC is about 1000 rated and other participants as well.
I just hope she at least manages to beat XQC in at least a single game, and I'll take that as a win.
Hafu played thousands of games and trained hard. After that, I was not impressed by her play. In one of her games in pogchamps, she was scared to take the pawn with her rook, but there was nothing scary there. She also could have check the king in some games and pick up some pawns, by maintaining pressure, but she decided against those moves. Made no sense to me. I am not impressed by the Poki either, but I am impressed by MichelleKhare, after watching her lesson with Anna Rudolf. She is still completely new at chess, and she is seeing things more than Poki. But sadly, it is just a chess challenge for her channel and nothing else
@@milannesic5718 As much as I do agree with your sentiment, at the very least it yielded results.
She's the Grand Champion of Pogchamps 2
@@milannesic5718 Hafu definitely played things safe most of the time but there is nothing inherently wrong with that. You can reasonably decide against winning material if you think it will expose your pieces/affect your overall defensive structure in a negative way. I also think people like Pakman and Forsen were still more experienced chess players overall regardless of how hard she trained for that one month
This is good, training on the spot, love it
29:38 rook e7 isn't a high elo move i'd say
35:22 Pokimane should have gone 8E with the pawn to get her queen and put pressure on the wall of black pawns.
Pokimanes audio is so nice in comparison
It's gonna sound so cliche but it's really nice to see all the support that chess streamers always give to the streamer learning, specially woman-woman
Low key Poki is a secret master though
Instant analysis makes chess more fun
Its strange to watch young and beautiful girls who analyze complex chess problems.
My only question is when did Pokimane become woman Grandmaster?
So its pay to win, basically? Or is it just like the site can grant you custom title permissions, and you can put whatever you want there?
@@joshuadalton6063 the 2nd one
Do a pokimane vs sykkuno
please consider adding london system to the title or the description
Yes the Fianchetto is Italian.
Other alternate names for the Fianchetto instead of "sniper's house" might be an Eagle's Nest (slang for a sniper's perch) or a Bell Tower (think: the snipers in Saving Private Ryan or Inglourious Basterds)
_Fianchetto_ just means "little flank" (as in, the word "flank" with a diminutive - if you'd copy the mechanism in english it would be flanklet, but that's an awkward word), so Sniper's Nest or Bell Tower (which also jives with the bishop being clergy and all...) really do sound cooler :D
I kinda think every time i play the london opening i think some onpther guy say im a simp because pokimane and the botez sisters have played the london
Pretty girls playing chess. Perfection.
In my opinion, the London system is a bit overrated in terms of beginner friendlyness. The positions tend to be more closed/positional, usually requiring some experience to tackle properly. Also, I’m not convinced that a system based opening is the optimal way of learning to understand the first couple of moves. Most players rated below 1200 will not play opening theory after the 3-4 move either. And so understanding general principles seem more practical at this point.
16:23 look at her eyes while she saying 'best' that was dangerous.
So that's what that annoying opening is, "The London System" where they jump their knights ahead to try to pick up a queen or a rook.
huh?
no thats chopped liver
Git gud
IDKGamer fried liver?
Think you mean the Fried Kidney Attack.
When I was a kid I was told bishop are the snipers but I get it now
She trained poki and and left lud crying
With all the constant compliments pokimane is constantly getting from the chess masters, she will never reach a level better than average. That truth goes for any sport.
she's not trying to be a GM lol it's not that deep
With the same attitude you should never do something. Wanna play computer games? There are people better than you. Wanna sing nope there are better people than you.
Hmm? Is it. Because she would get cocky because you’re not making much sense. Wouldn’t she be better than average if she’s complimented by all these good chess players?
poki played poker player daniel negreanu in a twitch match tournament and he did a recap video of their games. his rating is around 1800 i think and he doesn't really know much/anything about poki and how she has been training. he commented that she was definitely well coached and was making really good plays that surprised him. he won but she gave him a bit of trouble. he said he was nervous and misplaying a lot, which showed in the analysis. poki did pretty well for being rated much lower. she was around 860 for the match i think, up from 440-ish here. botez chess dojo is impressive....
Well, Hikaru trained pokimane
Lmao I was saying that too like they were saying who ever trained you is really good. 😂 teehee
Nah, Hikaru is not a good teacher. He teaches advanced stuff, long lines and openings that are overwhelming for a beginners. Beginners need to be taught how to not blunder first. Basic, simple stuff. Simple tips and tricks.
@@milannesic5718 what tips? He’s showing her the basics first she needs to know the openings and what to play and then to tricks and tactics 😕
@@milannesic5718 that’s why he showed her the openings to not blunder it’s ok to blunder a few times if u get back up and find a great move next...
@@AlaskanChick12 Yes, how to open, not specific opening. There are too many lines and branches for every opening. It is overwhelming even for me.
35:13 pon to e8= queen followed by queen to h5 checkmate
London opening is mentioned. *Andrea starts yelling. 😂
3 beautiful ladies playing chess, so intriguing!
Ah I see you are a man of culture as well 😁
@@RuanAntunes7 lmao, I think I had wine when I watched this video.
@@olegpopov300 Regardless. The wine didn't affect your sight in the least 😂
@@RuanAntunes7 No, but it gave me the Simp Boon
Great personalities too
Why does it seem like Pokemane's more laid back? I like it.
This is better than Tata Steel masters 😂
ridiculous
Everything's better with Pokimane in it!
Lol. Simp.
Simp
Y'all are *scary* smart 🤯
3 gorgeous streamers in one clip 🌹
bro she's a fucking genius compared to me lol, I hope she keeps playing
When we will see Dream playing chess with U.
Can't hack rng in chess
1200s do not miss free pawns like that
she is way better than xqc
Is it weird that I can't focus on the chessboard?
@ricks mouth drip lol
I'm not a fan of Poki, but I loved this video of her and the Botez sister. :)
I wonder what streamer drinks from the biggest bottle. Fierce competition.
Feels like a zodiac reading
Man I learned so much from this
Best is Boxbox's expression - bishop frappuchino
This is actually nothing.Back in our days we used to play chess,eat chess,sleep playin' chess.And i used to constantly ask my father to carve me a new chess board.
Are you a gm now?
@@idlamper0uge916 Nope.After minecraft came out i was really into minecraft...goin' for stuff like the Dream SMP and speedrunnin'.I am a good speedrunner tho.But after i saw fundy and wilbur practicin' chess....i also thought why not?
You know who trained her
Hikaruwu
Fianchetto means "from the smol side"