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Thank you I wish you lived in my area, but I have pretty calm horses so I'm good and it helps watching your videos. Thank you again. I love how you taught her how to speak, he really drives me crazy and people go out. Try to do it I said are you gonna try you're gonna do it?! Thank you, Ryan
Are u sure he's human or alien remember they don't know if human really do exist but humans on earth they said were brought here by aliens just saying from their guessing game of no knowledge of this world them and lieing expert scientists and exploring experts don't even know anything bout this world they live in
Great perspective. Like others have noted, her leadership of Dante on the ground is poor. But, she knows this and has requested help. Her opening herself up to scrutiny reflects enormous confidence. She's got this!
I couldn’t agree more. So many self righteous & negative Nellie’s out there. I prefer to be more supportive. We are all on a journey with our horses. She’s doing the best she can with what she knows. Kudos for seeking the help.
Prime example of someone trying to do the right thing but compounding the problem…I think we have ALL been there, I am actually working on a similar issue there myself. I have learned so much from Ryan and Warwick. I love their styles of training. Good for her to reach out for help. You’re doing great girl! Keep it up! He’s a beautiful horse and the work is going to be so worth it. And THANK YOU for putting yourself out there for all of us to learn from. I hope you don’t pay attention to any negative responses. I know your methods and techniques are meant with safety in mind but hopefully these sessions will help you move past them to something greater. Much love and respect to you both!
Totally agree!! Just ignore the meanies. I’m sure they wouldn’t ever put themselves out there in asking for help. You are brave & are helping many people by being open to sharing this problem & solution on the internet. I’ve found ground work is a way to really bond with my horse as well as help with both of our levels of confidence when the space bubble has been established 😊 Your horse is gorgeous!
Good on her for calling in someone with more skill! That's smart!! It's a challenge to try new techniques and get it correct when you're not knowing what/how you're supposed to be doing it. Part of being wimpy is uncertainty. Part of confidence is knowing how to execute these techniques. And having learned some fear of this horse definitely adds to the mix. I appreciate Ryan's ability to communicate and it's always fun to see the horse recognize in Ryan someone who knows how to act around horses. Horses are always like, yay! Ryan's here! 🤠
But a confident person with this horse- he needs a confident and strong leader. This horse does not respect this woman. She needs to be a leader. Seems to need self-confidence and show him leadership not the other way around. This is not the right horse for the his person at all.
I think sometimes we underestimate how important our energy is when working with animals. Horses, with their sensitive natures, are very adept at reading our energy and respond accordingly. Warmbloods are intelligent and quite willing to learn, which is why they are such versatile sport horses. I hope she keeps up her confidence so that their relationship improves.
After having Arabs and easily training them I got a 1/2 arab/warmblood and she was exactly like him but much worse. She tried to totally take over all the time. This training helped me so much to get her to behave
1000%, they can always sense ur nerves which can elevate their enegry depending how u act. Not necessarily a bad thing as long as u can still stay focused on what ur doing, but if u fumble they recognize that. They also watch how u react to sudden stressors and if u panic or keep it cool. Basically even if nerves r high, if u keep it cool they will automatically follow your lead
Remember people if you don't have the confidence and respect from your horse on the ground first, you won't get it under saddle. Hopefully she will continue this what you shown her Ryan.
People need to understand that it doesn't matter how "good" a horse is under saddle, if he doesn't respect you on the ground he won't respect you in the saddle either. Maybe you can ride him in ideal conditions in a familiar environment, but when it comes to any kind of stressful or emergency situation, he will just do his own thing, which will likely mean running off, bucking or rearing. It always surprises me that people get on horses who can't be lead safely, can't be lunged, bite and kick at you. It's just incredibly naive and dangerous
Like you have said you spend 50% teaching them what you want them to know, and 50% teaching what you do not want them to know. It is all about changing the ratio to the positive side. Thank you Ryan. Awesome lesson taught today.
One of the best videos I've seen yet from Mr. Ryan Rose. I love the way in which he teaches, educates, and supports the horse owner. He instantly gave her confidence, which she really needed as well.
Thank you to JoEllen for putting yourself out there. You improved a great deal in one session. I learned a lot from this, I can clearly see when her energy is too low, she is not protecting her space, ropes too short, then it's too long. A lot of this is just inexperience but it's also a fantastic reminder what to check next time one of my own groundwork exercises don't work.
Oh my goodness. With your help on Patreon, I have been able to help my OTTB who had some very similar habits as this Warmblood. I am so amazed at the progress we have made. Thank you, Ryan. This video brought back so many memories. Stu is an awesome horse. Stu had been biting his previous owner so hard I heard his chest skin pop. He had been striking out with his front feet, and had been labeled as a "bad horse." He had struck out at the farrier and hurt the helper and broken out of crossties. With Ryan's patience and understanding, I have a wonderful horse that can can now be handled by basically anyone.
I give this lady loads of credit. I would be intimidated as well as he is large and a thinker and because he’s tested her before makes it that much harder but kudos for figuring it out…Ryan makes it look easy
I think you're right, but I think she will gain confidence and be fine. A lot of her tentativeness towards the end of the video is due to being uncertain of technique. She will gain confidence in her technique, rope and stick handling skills and be great at ground work. She will definitely be fine with this horse and then other, easier horses will just be smooth sailing for her.
@Lagolop I suspect there's a bit of "stage fright" self-consciousness going on when you know you're being filmed and it'll be on RUclips for people to pick apart. I'd bet many of you big talkers would choke on camera and lose your bravado and confidence too.
@@melanies.6030 Her confidence was lost LOOOOOONNNGGGG before she was being recorded. This is why she hired an expert to help her. I'm not dissing her, I was merely pointing out a fact.
This used to be me. I had an ancient quarter horse that stepped all over me. Good on you for stepping in front of the camera for the rest of our sakes! And as always, thank you Mr Rose for sharing your horse training with the world.
Loved her awareness of his moving forward a step at the end, and her insistence that he step back again. Especially while listening and talking. Good job!
Years ago, I had a funny A-HA moment that completely changed my way of working with my horses; I realized that it's very likely I will get hurt by a pushy horse whether I'm brave or timid, BUT I'm MORE LIKELY to get hurt if I'm timid. (Duh, I know.) I realized also that my "braveness" comes, in part, from KNOWING MY GOALS/INTENTIONS and being sure of what I'm asking from my horse so HE knows what I'm asking from him. Videotaping MYSELF training has helped me to find MY bad habits and poor cueing. (Embarrassing, but only I see it!) I hope this young lady builds on what she's learned from Ryan here. Nice job! ~Holly
Timing is so important for us humans. Horses are so perceptive and aware of our micro movements and they pick up on it when we may not have paid attention to them. Coordinating the long rope and the whip/rope- it's an art in itself! ha ha. But practice and it'll become more coordinated and natural/less awkward.
Another example of why it is so important to work with a trainer with your horse. Because 90% of the training is actually training the owner and not the horse.
She did excellent at the very end, noticing he was stepping up behind her and she backed him up. He listened! Great job Ryan, and student! It's going to take a while but this horse can definitely be retrained to respect her bubble.
Wow, lots of negative comments about the owner. She rides the horse without issues, so there's that. She's unsure of Ryan's techniques and learning those, so at least some of her lack of confidence comes from that. It's easy to criticize, but people who listen and are willing to learn are far more intelligent (and, frankly, better with horses in the long run) in my experience than people who know everything and judge harshly.
Great exercise, particularly with your explaining about your levels of energy. This is about the person & not the horse. Good that she asked for some help.
I seriously appreciate how this horse shows all the raw things that can happen or needs improvement on and how Ryan gives the antidote to fixing them! Great video.
I struggled with being my horse's leader when I first got him. No experience caring for a horse and understanding his language / way of seeing the world. He was a gray who got tumors late in life, and I had to put him down six years ago, after a long happy relationship thanks to a local Amish horse whisperer who taught me what you're teaching us now. Thanks!
I had a loose yearling filly approach me with a bit of steam today and I remembered the advice to own my space. I just put my palm forward and said; “stop". Like I meant it and she toned right down. I gave her a pat and went on my way. She had been pretty enthusiastic the first time we met in the field a few weeks back. After watching these videos, I feel even more confident. Thank you SO much!!!!
Ryan, it is so refreshing to see/hear your skills with both horse & handler. Your use of understandable analogies/examples really seems to translate and convey concepts so well, it’s really an exceptional skill that sets you apart from other talented horse trainers. At 72, there is plenty for me to learn. Planning to sign up for your Patreon as soon as I can get set up to focus with my 4 horses. Thank you.
I recently discovered Ryan and the value of groundwork, similar to this lady, didn’t do it much at all. Luckily I never had big issues, but realised I could be doing better for the horse. OMG, what a revelation and believe me, you’re never too old, wish I had discovered sooner. I do have my daughter as well on to it now and she has realised the value too. Loved the teaching, walking with the student, politely challenging her mindset at the end. Awesome!
FB has been doing weird stuff lately and I've been missing your videos 😢.. so happy I got to finally see one again! I absolutely love how you work with horses Ryan! You're so calm and connected to their needs and kind and patient with the owner/rider. I always learn so much. Much love and respect from Adelaide Australia 😊❤🐴
Sometimes I wish people could go live in a wild horse herd to get the feel of how horses treat each other and how the subtlest motion means something. Body language means everything to the horse. A lot of the time the human does not have a clue how the horse is reading their body language.
Many do not know Warmbloods are one of the hardest horses. They need a strong leader and do not suffer fools. They can escalate in negative behaviours quickly without strong leadership and clear consistant direction.
So what makes warmbloods so difficult compared to other horses? We have a few at the barn where I board my horses. I always thought they were just horses but, the owners ideas of groundwork are lunging or chasing them around on a long rope, slapping on side reins and little else.
He's a very smart horse with a big personality! Commend his guardian for realizing she needed help from the best person that could give them that much needed guidance! Hopefully she gains leadership from here out & he realizes he doesn't have to be the leader to feel safe ❤
Our brood mare was very food aggressive from her previous owners, and the fact that she is pretty docile and was runoff of her food from other horses. We always pull her into her stall, which has an indoor and outdoor area. We put her in the outdoor area in the corner and take her halter off and have a stick, where I just wave it behind my back as I am walking in. I don’t make eye contact with her. I just gently wave the stick horizontally back-and-forth but a whole half circle behind my back. She is a completely different horse now that she knows she doesn’t have to fight for food and also knows her boundaries.
I love that this young lady is wanting to learn. I meet too many horse people who know it all and then get hurt. Thank you for asking for help, so we can all learn from Ryan!
It really strikes me how totally essential it is for us to really stop and OBSERVE what’s going on with our animals - in this case to SEE how Ryan's actions and body language are affecting the horse's behavior AND the horse's state of mind. As he yields the space, he's becoming softer, calmer, with less head tossing, tail swishing, etc. When I was working with horses 15 hours a day many years ago, there were SO many things we were not taught (and there has been a lot of development in horsemanship over the past 3-4 decades, too) that would have transformed our daily life and relationship with our animals. It really came home to me when I began to train my last dog, including some service behaviors for myself, and I learned how important observation was (there was a really good Facebook group focused on Observation Skills) and also HOW dogs communicate (totally different from horses) so that I could communicate effectively in turn. I was able to teach Juno SO many neat things; the more she learned, the faster she learned, and taught me so much as well. Many thanks to Ryan and all the others who have the skill to share their knowledge and experience effectively; it adds so much to the lives of horses and their owners.
We so many sport riders that are “experienced “ in the competition circuit but haven’t a clue about good horsemanship. When kids are getting riding lessons they should also be taught horsemanship.
My gosh, say that louder for those in the back of the balcony! I've seen this sooo many times by competition barns. And, if you bring it up, they do not believe ground training is important. But, I've also seen it happen with a young "cowboy" who saw me working my Mustang mare in a round-pen, doing liberty work. He walked up and said, "Is that the stuff that you do?" 🙄You cannot teach someone who has a closed mind.
That’s because they’re too busy wanting to get to the competitions, etc. They go see their horse three times a week at the boarding facility. They don’t have a real relationship with their horses.
@@lauralauren6432 stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. Enough people fall into the category that it starts becoming a pattern. And people notice that pattern. I’m glad you had a good background and experience. But a lot of people don’t.
Loved this video!! In my experience in the English disciplines and while watching my 2 girls go through Pony Club, we were always taught to hold the horse at the snap while leading, and to never let the lead rope drag on the ground. It was such a change learning level one Parelli and discovering I had better control with distance not closeness. Watching Ryan being such a master with handling the rope and stick while keeping his feet still, motivates me to keep practicing! Such a great horseman and teacher!!
It's crazy how simple ground work is and how effective it can be. And even crazier how people struggle to grasp the simple concepts! Ryan does a wonderful job working through problems with people and their horses!
"I want him to respect your back" YES. That's the missing piece for me and my very extroverted gypsy gelding who would like to use me as his personal chew toy. I've been owning space, he'll get out of my space, but if I turn my back he walks right up, I'll flinch to the side and send him out on a circle. I need to just walk a line like Ryan, instead of automatically lunging him, and practice him leading nicely at a distance. He knows all the basic ground work, and I've been plenty assertive with him, but it feels like I still can't trust him near me and i think I've been unconsciously giving ground to him in certain situations. I need to focus on owning space even when I'm opening the gate and leading him in, I've definitely let that slide in favor of my rush to teach him other skills. Back to basics for us for awhile! Thanks Ryan!
I've been wondering why I'm watching this when I no longer have horses. And then I watched this person continually backing away from a dominating horse and I realised - I do this with people! Except with horses it's very physical while with people it's more in the way we communicate. Thanks for the excellent videos!
Ryan,bI'm glad you told her what the viewers are thinking...even in her speech she is not confident... This horse was a pleasure to watch...he seemed to just want a higher level of activity ! I think that, with the type of training you do,and suggest, this horse is going to be fantastic !
I’ve watched & learned a lot about my favorite animal through your videos. But this video in particular really touched my heart. With how you helped this lady gain confidence with her horse on the ground. Really looked like her horse was waiting for her to be confident so she could lead him. Really beautiful.
Seeing this more and more with horse owners. Limited amount of time which they want to spend riding, not doing ground work. She's young enough that she probably took lessons where horse was caught and tacked up already or had good lesson horses without bad habits. Bitd, instructors spent time on horse care, ground manners and some of the lesson horses would try you. These days it's instant gratification and sue happy people, so instructors rush students into saddle and showing without them gaining them basic knowledge we oldsters took for granted. Good for this gal reaching out for help and opening herself up to all the keyboard warriors. ❤
It's very validating to see yay my approach and technique I've developed to help people with these very issues with their horses are what professionals (that I respect) are teaching as well. I love your approach to horsemanship Ryan! 🎉❤
Cool that everytime she's saying that the horse is really dangerous Ryan always answers excited with an "Alright 👍🏼". Ryan you can't hide how excited you get from working with difficult horses 😉
I have always said that the training is all done in the stable. It doesn’t take a lot, consistency being the main factor. If I wanted to go in the stable the horse had to move back to give me room, I taught them to 'stand up' so they would stand with their side to the back wall. When I opened the door they were not allowed to go to the door unless I invited them. Non of this was hard to teach, it earned their respect.
Same situation as dogs no such thing as bad dogs or bad horses it's experienced or not good owners but once they learn, that's the key boundaries! Thank you, Ryan for saving all the horses that you do. We need a lot more people like you thank you thank you.
I had to deal with 3 horses that were "trained" just like this by the owner and her daughter stepping back and generally quailing when the horses came into their space. It was a pain to fix and especially dangerous at feeding time. I sure would have benefited from this information back then, but I managed, in the end. The most important part was retraining the owner and her daughter.
Glad the horse was not a 10/10 level bad. She needs some support still but if she's willing to do it he stans to teach her a lot. I would consider him mild - potential to be dangerous sure, but he seems to listen if you set the expectation Good on her addressing the issue
Watching instruction like this reminds me of self defense courses I have taken. You learn how to walk and carry yourself with confidence. A more powerful air about one’s space.
I used to board some horses (all well mannered when purchased) and I would see this all the time with the new owners on the ground, in the saddle or both. Within a month or two, they'd want me to deal with their horse, but the horses never tried me like they did their owners. I used to tell them that sometimes "you get what you expect to get" from your horse. I expect them to respect me and behave and they did. The owners were more nervous, timid or even afraid that their horse was going to behave badly and they did. Horses can read a person's intentions and fears better than many people think and some will take advantage. You have to set the ground rules and correct the little infringements so they don't grow into bigger problems. I don't get on any horse that I can't trust on the ground--that's just asking for something bad to happen.
bless her she needs time to learn how to properly lunge, handle on the ground and interact etc with other horses perhaps before she can feel confident working with this gorgeous boy. Hope this helped with her knowledge and set them off on a lovely path together~ As always, educational and great horsemanship Ryan!
He da boss! Her energy is so low, even in talking about his terrible behavior. She’s just been avoiding dealing with it and just doing what he will let her do, so I hope Ryan’s tips really help her leadership. As soon as Ryan took the rope, Dante went I “uh, the boss-hoss just arrived.” Anyone a fan of Lonesome Dove? If one of my geldings gets this kind of snarky, I try to channel Captain Call’s Hell B**ch mare, and it helps me find that “not kidding” energy. lol
So many equestrians do not understand the simple rule of " control the feet, control the horse." In horse language, the more dominant horse moves the feet of the subordinate horse. It is why we should never give ground to the horse if we have a more dominant personality in our horse.
The idea of a 'dominant' horse within the herd is being displaced as more and more studies of wild herds are being done, especially by people like Lucy Rees. The herd co-operates, and strives for synchronicity. One will decide to go for a drink, another will follow, and then suddenly they are all heading to the water. No-one is 'herding' them to the water. The next day it will be another horse that decides its time to move to some fresh grass, etc. Horse do not want us to dominate them; that is a human construct. They DO want us to consistently show them that we can make good choices for them that will keep them safe. You do that for long enough, to prove that you can be trusted, they will follow you anywhere. We cannot truly control the horse, but you can create a strong enough connection with them emotionally, they become willing partners. It is possible to protect your own space, and not be run over by a pushy horse by being assertive when needed, but never aggressive. In my opinion, Ryan is too aggressive, especially to the horses face and head. It isn't necessary. If you can send the shoulder away, the neck and head go with it. Assertive 'pushing' to the face is a bullying tactic as far as the horse is concerned.
I wish Ryan had been around for that horse in the Buck Brannaman documentary. That horse was put down. Edit to add, if I recall correctly, that horse had been a 'bottle baby'. I've only been around two 'bottle babies' in my lifetime. One tried to kill me (I've got a heck of a story about that) and other one was only a few degrees less dangerous.
Horses will feed off of your fear. They need an alpha leader, and if you aren't it, then they will be. Ryan is so good at showing how to own your space and be the alpha!!
i'm always learning more and more about horses, and most recently am off work with a broken wrist. Not sure where i came across the information, but it seems that the jumpers/other sport horses are not worked with on the ground very much! sorry to blabber on LOL
@10mileroadie It's a real shame for both Horse and rider that sport horses aren't given basic ground work experiences. Especially since they're so hot-blooded, as it makes them much safer!
I agree with everyone her courage is encouraging, and lacking in experience is learned somehow rite?! Buuuuut this isn’t even her horse, I don’t feel or see a connection between her and that particular horse so how is she going to be able to pass this exercise with this horse on? He’s not seeming like he’s not interested in participating maybe a better suited owner for the horse and maybe a lesser or pre trained horse would work out better for them all. Once again Cuttos Ryan. I know your all about fixing the issue did you at any point feel any type of connection between her and that horse and did you meet the owner of the horse? Curious thank you
I like this exercise, i think a good one for me, its hard not to do that step back, especially when you have had to do it in the past to protect yourself.
I really like his methods. That said, I am wondering what happened between him approaching to change the halter and when the video comes back with the horse re-haltered and having clearly been worked with already using the long whip. Did he have to firm up right away and isn't comfortable showing that here? That's one of the things that I prefer about Steve Young Horsemanship videos. He shows everything and when it's too long and uneventful he just speeds it up. Occasionally he will skip but he always acknowledges doing so and offers an explanation.
A big pet peeve of mine is a disrespectful horse! You’ll gain confidence owning space each and every time you’re around any horse. Great job reaching out for help with this beautiful boy.
We had boarders who had great big draft crosses. No ground manners on them at all. The biggest one used to run you and the owners over. Took a few minutes to establish that I am the boss, my space is my space and not his. The boarders didn’t like the fact that I trained their horses to lead into the barn nicely.l
Glad he stepped! I'm not trying to hurt any feelings here but this girl really needed a trainer, not the horse. It just feels like she's not so much a horsy person but just a person who works with horses. If you know what I mean, you know what I mean. She seems to be a person who just thought it would be cool to work with horses but it's not what she imagined it to be. Especially with this confident, cocky boy, lol.
I sure wish commenters who feel free to benefit from watching these real life case studies would be more kind and tactful about criticizing the clients who have been willing to share their situations. I’m sure these clients know they aren’t perfect. This channel is a great place to learn, but if it gets too mean in the audience, it won’t be.
And YES. Lip chains CAN be cruel or dangerous in the wrong hands !! They should never be jerked on or too much pressure put on them. I personally also had to work with 2 horses about ruined by lip chain in the wrong hands. Thought about this AFTER I had already posted about using a lip chain to lead a fractious horse. Only enough pressure should be on lead to keep it in place & keep the horses attention.
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U r magic👍🏼❌
Thank you I wish you lived in my area, but I have pretty calm horses so I'm good and it helps watching your videos. Thank you again.
I love how you taught her how to speak, he really drives me crazy and people go out. Try to do it I said are you gonna try you're gonna do it?!
Thank you, Ryan
How do we get you be a live coach not a virtual coach?
Man, this horse could not have found a better human to help him & the humans in his life, than RR!
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Are u sure he's human or alien remember they don't know if human really do exist but humans on earth they said were brought here by aliens just saying from their guessing game of no knowledge of this world them and lieing expert scientists and exploring experts don't even know anything bout this world they live in
I apreiciate her confidence to be filmed while learning-that takes some courage, and she has it. She and Dante are going places👏
Great perspective. Like others have noted, her leadership of Dante on the ground is poor. But, she knows this and has requested help. Her opening herself up to scrutiny reflects enormous confidence. She's got this!
I couldn’t agree more. So many self righteous & negative Nellie’s out there. I prefer to be more supportive. We are all on a journey with our horses. She’s doing the best she can with what she knows. Kudos for seeking the help.
SO much this!! I was nervous for her! The Internet is a vicious place 😑
Ryan is more than just a horse trainer, he’s a gosh darn therapist! 😂❤
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Prime example of someone trying to do the right thing but compounding the problem…I think we have ALL been there, I am actually working on a similar issue there myself. I have learned so much from Ryan and Warwick. I love their styles of training. Good for her to reach out for help. You’re doing great girl! Keep it up! He’s a beautiful horse and the work is going to be so worth it. And THANK YOU for putting yourself out there for all of us to learn from. I hope you don’t pay attention to any negative responses. I know your methods and techniques are meant with safety in mind but hopefully these sessions will help you move past them to something greater. Much love and respect to you both!
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Totally agree!! Just ignore the meanies. I’m sure they wouldn’t ever put themselves out there in asking for help. You are brave & are helping many people by being open to sharing this problem & solution on the internet. I’ve found ground work is a way to really bond with my horse as well as help with both of our levels of confidence when the space bubble has been established 😊
Your horse is gorgeous!
Ryan is simply undoing all the wrong behavior he’s been taught by humans. He’s not a bad horse, he just needs some help ❤
Actually she is very inexperienced and lacks confidence. If she’s not going to be the leader, he thinks I’ll take over. He is a beautiful horse.
Good on her for calling in someone with more skill! That's smart!! It's a challenge to try new techniques and get it correct when you're not knowing what/how you're supposed to be doing it. Part of being wimpy is uncertainty. Part of confidence is knowing how to execute these techniques. And having learned some fear of this horse definitely adds to the mix.
I appreciate Ryan's ability to communicate and it's always fun to see the horse recognize in Ryan someone who knows how to act around horses. Horses are always like, yay! Ryan's here! 🤠
Ryan, I think a key element of your success is that you know exactly what the goal is when you begin,
Thank you 🙏
Watching the owners learn to recognize and work through issues is very informative-you are a thoughtful and adept instructor. 😊
She needs to learn/experience ground work with a trained horse and a coach. He's more confident than she is, and takes advantage of her.
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He is coaching her. She doesn't need anyone else.
But a confident person with this horse- he needs a confident and strong leader. This horse does not respect this woman. She needs to be a leader. Seems to need self-confidence and show him leadership not the other way around. This is not the right horse for the his person at all.
@@GeminiGemini-tr9wf I disagree. She has been handling him. Just needs Ryan's help.
There has to come a point, however, when she takes over the training on her own. Or she'll always need someone to intervene.
I think sometimes we underestimate how important our energy is when working with animals. Horses, with their sensitive natures, are very adept at reading our energy and respond accordingly. Warmbloods are intelligent and quite willing to learn, which is why they are such versatile sport horses. I hope she keeps up her confidence so that their relationship improves.
After having Arabs and easily training them I got a 1/2 arab/warmblood and she was exactly like him but much worse. She tried to totally take over all the time. This training helped me so much to get her to behave
1000%, they can always sense ur nerves which can elevate their enegry depending how u act. Not necessarily a bad thing as long as u can still stay focused on what ur doing, but if u fumble they recognize that. They also watch how u react to sudden stressors and if u panic or keep it cool. Basically even if nerves r high, if u keep it cool they will automatically follow your lead
Remember people if you don't have the confidence and respect from your horse on the ground first, you won't get it under saddle. Hopefully she will continue this what you shown her Ryan.
Yes, I was wondering if she is as confident as she says she is when she's riding the horse. He's a big fella. I'll stick with my 15 hands and under!
I CANNOT GET RESPECT FROM MY JACK RUSSELL TERRIER!
People need to understand that it doesn't matter how "good" a horse is under saddle, if he doesn't respect you on the ground he won't respect you in the saddle either. Maybe you can ride him in ideal conditions in a familiar environment, but when it comes to any kind of stressful or emergency situation, he will just do his own thing, which will likely mean running off, bucking or rearing. It always surprises me that people get on horses who can't be lead safely, can't be lunged, bite and kick at you. It's just incredibly naive and dangerous
EXACTLY! And then these horses end up at auctions, or passed from one owner to another....always blaming the horse and not the humans who owned it.
Like you have said you spend 50% teaching them what you want them to know, and 50% teaching what you do not want them to know. It is all about changing the ratio to the positive side. Thank you Ryan. Awesome lesson taught today.
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One of the best videos I've seen yet from Mr. Ryan Rose. I love the way in which he teaches, educates, and supports the horse owner. He instantly gave her confidence, which she really needed as well.
Thank you
Thank you to JoEllen for putting yourself out there. You improved a great deal in one session. I learned a lot from this, I can clearly see when her energy is too low, she is not protecting her space, ropes too short, then it's too long. A lot of this is just inexperience but it's also a fantastic reminder what to check next time one of my own groundwork exercises don't work.
Oh my goodness. With your help on Patreon, I have been able to help my OTTB who had some very similar habits as this Warmblood. I am so amazed at the progress we have made. Thank you, Ryan. This video brought back so many memories. Stu is an awesome horse.
Stu had been biting his previous owner so hard I heard his chest skin pop. He had been striking out with his front feet, and had been labeled as a "bad horse." He had struck out at the farrier and hurt the helper and broken out of crossties. With Ryan's patience and understanding, I have a wonderful horse that can can now be handled by basically anyone.
I am proud of you to understand what you both needed to have a successful partnership! Awesome job!
I give this lady loads of credit. I would be intimidated as well as he is large and a thinker and because he’s tested her before makes it that much harder but kudos for figuring it out…Ryan makes it look easy
She's way too tentative for this horse. That's how this got started.
I think you're right, but I think she will gain confidence and be fine. A lot of her tentativeness towards the end of the video is due to being uncertain of technique. She will gain confidence in her technique, rope and stick handling skills and be great at ground work. She will definitely be fine with this horse and then other, easier horses will just be smooth sailing for her.
Yep,, She needs more training then the Horse.
100%, way to passive.
@Lagolop I suspect there's a bit of "stage fright" self-consciousness going on when you know you're being filmed and it'll be on RUclips for people to pick apart. I'd bet many of you big talkers would choke on camera and lose your bravado and confidence too.
@@melanies.6030 Her confidence was lost LOOOOOONNNGGGG before she was being recorded. This is why she hired an expert to help her. I'm not dissing her, I was merely pointing out a fact.
This used to be me. I had an ancient quarter horse that stepped all over me.
Good on you for stepping in front of the camera for the rest of our sakes!
And as always, thank you Mr Rose for sharing your horse training with the world.
Loved her awareness of his moving forward a step at the end, and her insistence that he step back again. Especially while listening and talking. Good job!
Years ago, I had a funny A-HA moment that completely changed my way of working with my horses; I realized that it's very likely I will get hurt by a pushy horse whether I'm brave or timid, BUT I'm MORE LIKELY to get hurt if I'm timid. (Duh, I know.) I realized also that my "braveness" comes, in part, from KNOWING MY GOALS/INTENTIONS and being sure of what I'm asking from my horse so HE knows what I'm asking from him. Videotaping MYSELF training has helped me to find MY bad habits and poor cueing. (Embarrassing, but only I see it!) I hope this young lady builds on what she's learned from Ryan here. Nice job! ~Holly
Timing is so important for us humans.
Horses are so perceptive and aware of our micro movements
and they pick up on it when we may not have paid attention to them.
Coordinating the long rope and the whip/rope- it's an art in itself! ha ha.
But practice and it'll become more coordinated and natural/less awkward.
Another example of why it is so important to work with a trainer with your horse. Because 90% of the training is actually training the owner and not the horse.
Ground work teaching respect is a huge safety measure.
Absolutely! Getting pinned to the gate is frightening as are many of his behaviors
Striking is also very dangerous
She did excellent at the very end, noticing he was stepping up behind her and she backed him up. He listened! Great job Ryan, and student! It's going to take a while but this horse can definitely be retrained to respect her bubble.
Wow, lots of negative comments about the owner. She rides the horse without issues, so there's that. She's unsure of Ryan's techniques and learning those, so at least some of her lack of confidence comes from that. It's easy to criticize, but people who listen and are willing to learn are far more intelligent (and, frankly, better with horses in the long run) in my experience than people who know everything and judge harshly.
Ryan was very patient w the owners weaknesses. Horsemanship is dynamic. Good job to all.
Great exercise, particularly with your explaining about your levels of energy. This is about the person & not the horse. Good that she asked for some help.
22:19 :: Dante steps in and even while talking with Ryan she was aware enough to send Dante back without moving her feet!
Good job 🥰
That moment made me SO HAPPY for her! She will do great
I love your patience in dealing w peeps.
I seriously appreciate how this horse shows all the raw things that can happen or needs improvement on and how Ryan gives the antidote to fixing them! Great video.
I struggled with being my horse's leader when I first got him. No experience caring for a horse and understanding his language / way of seeing the world. He was a gray who got tumors late in life, and I had to put him down six years ago, after a long happy relationship thanks to a local Amish horse whisperer who taught me what you're teaching us now. Thanks!
Always good to have a skilled wingman!!
I had a loose yearling filly approach me with a bit of steam today and I remembered the advice to own my space. I just put my palm forward and said; “stop". Like I meant it and she toned right down. I gave her a pat and went on my way. She had been pretty enthusiastic the first time we met in the field a few weeks back. After watching these videos, I feel even more confident. Thank you SO much!!!!
Your backup was so important👍
Ryan, it is so refreshing to see/hear your skills with both horse & handler. Your use of understandable analogies/examples really seems to translate and convey concepts so well, it’s really an exceptional skill that sets you apart from other talented horse trainers. At 72, there is plenty for me to learn. Planning to sign up for your Patreon as soon as I can get set up to focus with my 4 horses.
Thank you.
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks!
I recently discovered Ryan and the value of groundwork, similar to this lady, didn’t do it much at all. Luckily I never had big issues, but realised I could be doing better for the horse. OMG, what a revelation and believe me, you’re never too old, wish I had discovered sooner. I do have my daughter as well on to it now and she has realised the value too. Loved the teaching, walking with the student, politely challenging her mindset at the end. Awesome!
FB has been doing weird stuff lately and I've been missing your videos 😢.. so happy I got to finally see one again! I absolutely love how you work with horses Ryan! You're so calm and connected to their needs and kind and patient with the owner/rider. I always learn so much. Much love and respect from Adelaide Australia 😊❤🐴
Sometimes I wish people could go live in a wild horse herd to get the feel of how horses treat each other and how the subtlest motion means something. Body language means everything to the horse. A lot of the time the human does not have a clue how the horse is reading their body language.
Many do not know Warmbloods are one of the hardest horses. They need a strong leader and do not suffer fools. They can escalate in negative behaviours quickly without strong leadership and clear consistant direction.
So what makes warmbloods so difficult compared to other horses? We have a few at the barn where I board my horses. I always thought they were just horses but, the owners ideas of groundwork are lunging or chasing them around on a long rope, slapping on side reins and little else.
Great session for horse and handler! And for me the viewer as well.
He's a very smart horse with a big personality! Commend his guardian for realizing she needed help from the best person that could give them that much needed guidance! Hopefully she gains leadership from here out & he realizes he doesn't have to be the leader to feel safe ❤
Our brood mare was very food aggressive from her previous owners, and the fact that she is pretty docile and was runoff of her food from other horses. We always pull her into her stall, which has an indoor and outdoor area. We put her in the outdoor area in the corner and take her halter off and have a stick, where I just wave it behind my back as I am walking in. I don’t make eye contact with her. I just gently wave the stick horizontally back-and-forth but a whole half circle behind my back. She is a completely different horse now that she knows she doesn’t have to fight for food and also knows her boundaries.
I love that this young lady is wanting to learn. I meet too many horse people who know it all and then get hurt. Thank you for asking for help, so we can all learn from Ryan!
It really strikes me how totally essential it is for us to really stop and OBSERVE what’s going on with our animals - in this case to SEE how Ryan's actions and body language are affecting the horse's behavior AND the horse's state of mind. As he yields the space, he's becoming softer, calmer, with less head tossing, tail swishing, etc. When I was working with horses 15 hours a day many years ago, there were SO many things we were not taught (and there has been a lot of development in horsemanship over the past 3-4 decades, too) that would have transformed our daily life and relationship with our animals. It really came home to me when I began to train my last dog, including some service behaviors for myself, and I learned how important observation was (there was a really good Facebook group focused on Observation Skills) and also HOW dogs communicate (totally different from horses) so that I could communicate effectively in turn. I was able to teach Juno SO many neat things; the more she learned, the faster she learned, and taught me so much as well. Many thanks to Ryan and all the others who have the skill to share their knowledge and experience effectively; it adds so much to the lives of horses and their owners.
He knows she is not the leader, but good for her getting help.
Very intelligent horse! Great video 😊
We so many sport riders that are “experienced “ in the competition circuit but haven’t a clue about good horsemanship. When kids are getting riding lessons they should also be taught horsemanship.
100%
My gosh, say that louder for those in the back of the balcony! I've seen this sooo many times by competition barns. And, if you bring it up, they do not believe ground training is important. But, I've also seen it happen with a young "cowboy" who saw me working my Mustang mare in a round-pen, doing liberty work. He walked up and said, "Is that the stuff that you do?" 🙄You cannot teach someone who has a closed mind.
Speak for your own experience. We were not allowed to handle horses without mentors.
That’s because they’re too busy wanting to get to the competitions, etc. They go see their horse three times a week at the boarding facility. They don’t have a real relationship with their horses.
@@lauralauren6432 stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. Enough people fall into the category that it starts becoming a pattern. And people notice that pattern. I’m glad you had a good background and experience. But a lot of people don’t.
This is more of a training the person video than the horse this time. Still very interesting
Loved this video!! In my experience in the English disciplines and while watching my 2 girls go through Pony Club, we were always taught to hold the horse at the snap while leading, and to never let the lead rope drag on the ground. It was such a change learning level one Parelli and discovering I had better control with distance not closeness. Watching Ryan being such a master with handling the rope and stick while keeping his feet still, motivates me to keep practicing! Such a great horseman and teacher!!
Brave owner for being willing to be filmed while learning something new ❤
It's crazy how simple ground work is and how effective it can be. And even crazier how people struggle to grasp the simple concepts! Ryan does a wonderful job working through problems with people and their horses!
"I want him to respect your back" YES. That's the missing piece for me and my very extroverted gypsy gelding who would like to use me as his personal chew toy. I've been owning space, he'll get out of my space, but if I turn my back he walks right up, I'll flinch to the side and send him out on a circle. I need to just walk a line like Ryan, instead of automatically lunging him, and practice him leading nicely at a distance. He knows all the basic ground work, and I've been plenty assertive with him, but it feels like I still can't trust him near me and i think I've been unconsciously giving ground to him in certain situations. I need to focus on owning space even when I'm opening the gate and leading him in, I've definitely let that slide in favor of my rush to teach him other skills. Back to basics for us for awhile! Thanks Ryan!
Great teaching! So patient!
Good work mate ,im always learning from you ,thank you for your videos,keep up the good work😊
I've been wondering why I'm watching this when I no longer have horses. And then I watched this person continually backing away from a dominating horse and I realised - I do this with people! Except with horses it's very physical while with people it's more in the way we communicate. Thanks for the excellent videos!
He knows he's not supposed to bite...that's a good one😮
Maybe the horse was testing to see if she was human
Ryan,bI'm glad you told her what the viewers are thinking...even in her speech she is not confident...
This horse was a pleasure to watch...he seemed to just want a higher level of activity ! I think that, with the type of training you do,and suggest, this horse is going to be fantastic !
I’ve watched & learned a lot about my favorite animal through your videos. But this video in particular really touched my heart. With how you helped this lady gain confidence with her horse on the ground. Really looked like her horse was waiting for her to be confident so she could lead him. Really beautiful.
I love this and how honest the feedback it. I also love how you don't just talk in your videos but give techniques that are very helpful.
Seeing this more and more with horse owners. Limited amount of time which they want to spend riding, not doing ground work.
She's young enough that she probably took lessons where horse was caught and tacked up already or had good lesson horses without bad habits.
Bitd, instructors spent time on horse care, ground manners and some of the lesson horses would try you. These days it's instant gratification and sue happy people, so instructors rush students into saddle and showing without them gaining them basic knowledge we oldsters took for granted.
Good for this gal reaching out for help and opening herself up to all the keyboard warriors. ❤
It's very validating to see yay my approach and technique I've developed to help people with these very issues with their horses are what professionals (that I respect) are teaching as well.
I love your approach to horsemanship Ryan! 🎉❤
Brilliant again Ryan! Beautiful horse and human instruction. Simple and super informative
Cool that everytime she's saying that the horse is really dangerous Ryan always answers excited with an "Alright 👍🏼".
Ryan you can't hide how excited you get from working with difficult horses 😉
I have always said that the training is all done in the stable. It doesn’t take a lot, consistency being the main factor.
If I wanted to go in the stable the horse had to move back to give me room, I taught them to 'stand up' so they would stand with their side to the back wall.
When I opened the door they were not allowed to go to the door unless I invited them.
Non of this was hard to teach, it earned their respect.
Same situation as dogs no such thing as bad dogs or bad horses it's experienced or not good owners but once they learn, that's the key boundaries!
Thank you, Ryan for saving all the horses that you do. We need a lot more people like you thank you thank you.
Ryan Rose you have the patience of anyone I know. Your amazing. Love your videos you have taught me many things about horse training. Thank you.
With me just watching, I can see where she is smart to get her horse with you for training. This horse does need more.
I had to deal with 3 horses that were "trained" just like this by the owner and her daughter stepping back and generally quailing when the horses came into their space. It was a pain to fix and especially dangerous at feeding time. I sure would have benefited from this information back then, but I managed, in the end. The most important part was retraining the owner and her daughter.
Glad the horse was not a 10/10 level bad. She needs some support still but if she's willing to do it he stans to teach her a lot.
I would consider him mild - potential to be dangerous sure, but he seems to listen if you set the expectation
Good on her addressing the issue
Watching instruction like this reminds me of self defense courses I have taken. You learn how to walk and carry yourself with confidence. A more powerful air about one’s space.
Ryan, you are amazing!
Horse gets intent fast, girl does not. She's too scared of him now.Ryan you have the patience of a saint.
I used to board some horses (all well mannered when purchased) and I would see this all the time with the new owners on the ground, in the saddle or both. Within a month or two, they'd want me to deal with their horse, but the horses never tried me like they did their owners. I used to tell them that sometimes "you get what you expect to get" from your horse. I expect them to respect me and behave and they did. The owners were more nervous, timid or even afraid that their horse was going to behave badly and they did. Horses can read a person's intentions and fears better than many people think and some will take advantage. You have to set the ground rules and correct the little infringements so they don't grow into bigger problems. I don't get on any horse that I can't trust on the ground--that's just asking for something bad to happen.
I love love this horse !
bless her she needs time to learn how to properly lunge, handle on the ground and interact etc with other horses perhaps before she can feel confident working with this gorgeous boy. Hope this helped with her knowledge and set them off on a lovely path together~ As always, educational and great horsemanship Ryan!
He da boss!
Her energy is so low, even in talking about his terrible behavior. She’s just been avoiding dealing with it and just doing what he will let her do, so I hope Ryan’s tips really help her leadership. As soon as Ryan took the rope, Dante went I “uh, the boss-hoss just arrived.”
Anyone a fan of Lonesome Dove? If one of my geldings gets this kind of snarky, I try to channel Captain Call’s Hell B**ch mare, and it helps me find that “not kidding” energy. lol
I would LOVE to see the full version of this on Patreon !!
Beautiful lesson . Hope the Rider and Horse has learned fundamentals.
Excellent video, very helpful.
So many equestrians do not understand the simple rule of " control the feet, control the horse."
In horse language, the more dominant horse moves the feet of the subordinate horse. It is why we should never give ground to the horse if we have a more dominant personality in our horse.
The idea of a 'dominant' horse within the herd is being displaced as more and more studies of wild herds are being done, especially by people like Lucy Rees. The herd co-operates, and strives for synchronicity. One will decide to go for a drink, another will follow, and then suddenly they are all heading to the water. No-one is 'herding' them to the water. The next day it will be another horse that decides its time to move to some fresh grass, etc. Horse do not want us to dominate them; that is a human construct. They DO want us to consistently show them that we can make good choices for them that will keep them safe. You do that for long enough, to prove that you can be trusted, they will follow you anywhere. We cannot truly control the horse, but you can create a strong enough connection with them emotionally, they become willing partners. It is possible to protect your own space, and not be run over by a pushy horse by being assertive when needed, but never aggressive. In my opinion, Ryan is too aggressive, especially to the horses face and head. It isn't necessary. If you can send the shoulder away, the neck and head go with it. Assertive 'pushing' to the face is a bullying tactic as far as the horse is concerned.
I wish Ryan had been around for that horse in the Buck Brannaman documentary. That horse was put down. Edit to add, if I recall correctly, that horse had been a 'bottle baby'. I've only been around two 'bottle babies' in my lifetime. One tried to kill me (I've got a heck of a story about that) and other one was only a few degrees less dangerous.
There are so many put down every day. That's why people need to be more educated and make sure they understand horses are not a "Little Ponies".
According to my sources, Julie never put that horse in the Buck film down. I know what she said in the film but, didn’t follow through.
@@rooirand100 That's great to hear, but I hope she got that poor troubled horse sorted out.
So Many have horses and maybe shouldn't. I apologize if I've offended you.
Horses will feed off of your fear. They need an alpha leader, and if you aren't it, then they will be. Ryan is so good at showing how to own your space and be the alpha!!
for an "experienced" horse person she acts hopeless and has no idea
i'm always learning more and more about horses, and most recently am off work with a broken wrist. Not sure where i came across the information, but it seems that the jumpers/other sport horses are not worked with on the ground very much! sorry to blabber on LOL
Some people consider themselves 'experienced' but actually know zilch
@10mileroadie It's a real shame for both Horse and rider that sport horses aren't given basic ground work experiences. Especially since they're so hot-blooded, as it makes them much safer!
I agree with everyone her courage is encouraging, and lacking in experience is learned somehow rite?! Buuuuut this isn’t even her horse, I don’t feel or see a connection between her and that particular horse so how is she going to be able to pass this exercise with this horse on? He’s not seeming like he’s not interested in participating maybe a better suited owner for the horse and maybe a lesser or pre trained horse would work out better for them all. Once again Cuttos Ryan. I know your all about fixing the issue did you at any point feel any type of connection between her and that horse and did you meet the owner of the horse? Curious thank you
Shes not experienced she just has a lot of money to appear to be experienced.
She can afford all the toys just doesnt know how to use em.
Just joined your Patreon. Looking forward to learning.
I like this exercise, i think a good one for me, its hard not to do that step back, especially when you have had to do it in the past to protect yourself.
I agree
Ryans also a human therapist.
Thtat was awesome Ryan!
I’d love a follow up video of some of the horses you have helped.
Ryan is very patient.
I really like his methods. That said, I am wondering what happened between him approaching to change the halter and when the video comes back with the horse re-haltered and having clearly been worked with already using the long whip. Did he have to firm up right away and isn't comfortable showing that here? That's one of the things that I prefer about Steve Young Horsemanship videos. He shows everything and when it's too long and uneventful he just speeds it up. Occasionally he will skip but he always acknowledges doing so and offers an explanation.
A big pet peeve of mine is a disrespectful horse! You’ll gain confidence owning space each and every time you’re around any horse. Great job reaching out for help with this beautiful boy.
We had boarders who had great big draft crosses. No ground manners on them at all. The biggest one used to run you and the owners over. Took a few minutes to establish that I am the boss, my space is my space and not his. The boarders didn’t like the fact that I trained their horses to lead into the barn nicely.l
Love this going to try it with my pushy mare this week
Groundwork always important for getting a bound with each other 😊
She doesn't have a clue.
Glad he stepped! I'm not trying to hurt any feelings here but this girl really needed a trainer, not the horse. It just feels like she's not so much a horsy person but just a person who works with horses. If you know what I mean, you know what I mean. She seems to be a person who just thought it would be cool to work with horses but it's not what she imagined it to be. Especially with this confident, cocky boy, lol.
Looks like the owner needs more training and confidence than the horse does.
I sure wish commenters who feel free to benefit from watching these real life case studies would be more kind and tactful about criticizing the clients who have been willing to share their situations. I’m sure these clients know they aren’t perfect. This channel is a great place to learn, but if it gets too mean in the audience, it won’t be.
Ryan Rose is a GOAT ❤
No boundaries...he doesn't like being told.
And YES. Lip chains CAN be cruel or dangerous in the wrong hands !! They should never be jerked on or too much pressure put on them.
I personally also had to work with 2 horses about ruined by lip chain in the wrong hands. Thought about this AFTER I had already posted about using a lip chain to lead a fractious horse. Only enough pressure should be on lead to keep it in place & keep the horses attention.
I have seen a few warmbloods that tend to have an aggressive streak. But interestingly, they were all great to ride.