@@MusicandDancing4Ever yet, she believed it was wrong. Two things can be sad at the same time. She was more abolitionist than her husband. Mary todd Lincoln lived a devastating life and it’s okay to acknowledge it.
I like how Ulysses Grant won over his future wife by making a little yellow coffin for her dead canary and convinced some soldiers to help him perform a funeral for it. Rather morbid yet...still very sweet. Nice touch, Mr. President 😏
I know, it's weird, but kinda sweet. And he showed her that he cared deeply for her feelings, even if it was just for the dead bird. I would probably marry him too after that.
@@Nikki-tx6kh The fact that he also loved her enough that he didn't care about her crossed eyes, and discouraged her from doing a (surely risky) eye surgery to attempt to correct them, was also very sweet.
I understand completely. When I was a kid we had a yellow parakeet we loved. When she died, we buried her in a special place on our property. Many decades later we still remember this bird fondly.
Did you know that Lucy Hayes was also a big supporter of prohibition. She would not serve alcohol at the White House and instead would serve lemonade. That's how she earned her nickname. "Lemonade Lucy."
Lucy Hayes was one of my favorites from this list. Loved all the causes she was passionate about (although prohibition was always doomed), and I particularly like how very present (looking directly at the viewer with a very engaged and amused expression) she looks in her portraits. It's a shame she died so young and that she lost all her children young as well.
And of course his indoctrinated young wife grew up to become a far right who opposed women's suffrage and saying women aren't intelligent enough 🤢 cringe and more cringe
That’s what I was thinking! At least all of the other presidents who married younger women married them when they were in their 20s and when they met them when they were older!
Hearing how Grant had his future wife wear his class ring as a symbol of their engagement made me remember that my cousin's husband also went to west point and graduated and when my cousin graduated high school he gave her a replica of his west point class ring as her engagement ring and it's really pretty. Now I see where this idea came from of the class ring turning into the engagement ring. Very sentimental 😊
I cried for Mary. All that grief? The fact she was even able to function at all is a testament to her strength cause I would’ve just curled into a ball & gave up
I think actress, Mary Tyler Moore, performed the role of Mary Todd Lincoln in a TV miniseries in 1970s or early 80s. She was marvelous especially at capturing Mary Todd's volatile mood swings.
I feel so bad for Mary Todd Lincoln. Her life was full of grief and hardship a few of her children, parents, and spouse all died which she had to take in. I hope she is resting in peace.
The death of President Garfield in 1881 moved the Queen, who never ceased mourning the loss of her own husband. On September 25, 1881, the day before President Garfield’s massive funeral in Cleveland, Queen Victoria wrote a letter to Lucretia Garfield. “I have anxiously watched,” she wrote, “the long, and fear at times, painful sufferings of your valiant husband and shared in the fluctuations between hope and fear, the former of which decreased about two months ago, and greatly to preponderate over the latter- and above all I fell in deeply for you!” As a gesture of her deep sorrow for Mrs. Garfield and the people of the United States, the Queen sent a large wreath of white tuberose to the funeral. The wreath was placed on the President’s casket as his body lay in state in Washington, D.C. and during his funeral in Cleveland.
I can't believe someone told Mary she was lucky she was with her son when he died (comparing her to mothers whose sons were killed in the war); sure, real lucky, to lose her 11-year-old son, who had nothing to do with the war. People can be so crummy.
Better than what Queen Victoria told her daughter when she lost a child. That it didn't compare to losing a husband since the child wasn't alive as long or something to that effect.
MYKONIIC HISTORY CHANNEL Yeah she said losing a child isnt as tragic as losing a husband and that her daughter should get over her grief as if she didnt spend 40 years mourning Albert
.... I don't think that Grover marrying Frank was what her father had in mind, on his death bed, when he asked Grover to take of his little girl... Ugh, ick...
@@lilymarinovic1644 thanks for the correction and correct me if i'm wrong here but Lindsay may have also used a photo of queen Liliuokalani although the photo was shown only briefly. thank for letting me know i seem to be needing a refresh on Hawaiian history, something i will be ratifying right away.
@@novemBURRbby I had to say it & I'm cringing. Then her Mom wanted Grover Cleveland but Cleveland wanted his goddaughter. YUCK!!!! And she wanted his old butt too... Smh...
Just imagine the conversations people might have had "They look so happy I wonder what the first gift between them was?" "He gave the bride her first baby carrige. No not for their own children for...her". Just ugh
@@Chshirecat13 Lmbo... He gave her piggyback rides when she was a kid. He helped her with her homework & took her on field trips to the zoo. He signed her permission slips when she was a kid.
One of the biggest examples of Wife Husbandry out there in real life. There were rumors that he would marry Frances' mother, but nope, he married Frances herself. Apparently he once said to a reporter who asked him why he wasn't married yet, "I'm just waiting for my wife to grow up." which is the page quote for Wife Husbandry on TV Tropes. We don't know for sure if he actually said that or not, but seeing as Frances was a generation younger than him, we can say that later events eventually proved that quote.
Most literature on Mary Todd Lincoln completely maligns her, so it was nice to hear a more balanced view. Also, never heard the story about their exchange in the theater, and probably Lincoln's last words to his wife. Wow. Very tiny correction: Hiram is pronounced HIGH-rim. Loving this series!
@@bitch8205 The general view in some books is that she was totally crazy and did nothing but make Abraham's life miserable. This attitude seems to be changing to a more balanced one. As Lindsay said in the video, some historians now think she had bipolar disorder. Imagine having three of your children die and witnessing your husband's murder.
QUEE VICTORIA’S LETTER TO MRS LINCOLN: Thought a stranger to you, cannot remain silent w[?] so terrible a calamity has fallen upon you and your country; and must personally express my deep and heartfelt sympathy wi[?] you under shocking circumstances of your present- dreadful misfortune. No one can better appreciate, than I can, who am myself utterly broken hearted by the loss of my own beloved husband, who was the light of my life, my stay, my all, -what your own sufferings must be, and I earnestly pray that you may be supported by Him, to whom alone the sorely stricken can look for comfort in their hour of heavy afflication. With the renewed expression of true sympathy, I remain, dear Madam, Your sincere friend, Victoria
@@thunderbird1921 really? I thought letter's are advising you to pay your bills on time or face enforcement/warrants.... thats all the letters i get lol
Mary Lincoln gets such a bad rep, but she was really trying her best to stay strong through all the tragedies she went through. Losing her son and being treated coldly for it, losing her husband, it was all too much for any person.
@@bitch8205 She had some mental health issues and was unfortunately the victim of fake news and some bad financial advice. She was given an allowance to redecorate the White House and while she did overspend a bit, most of the money that went missing was the fault of someone on Mr.Lincoln's cabinet. He was the one who blew through the money like he had a coke problem and he blamed her for her it. People at the time thought she was a southern sympathizer and she wasn't. Most people now only remember Mary for 'being crazy'. She was a very sweet lady who didn't get the help she needed, and who was given too much of a medicine dose by a doctor which is part of what caused her to go off the rails in her later years. Nobody ever talks about Mary's good qualities or how she'd sincerely apologize after her outbursts.
@@bitch8205 It was more so back then than now. So many young people died in battle so the outpouring of grief for their lost son was seen as out of touch and crude. Of course, this was misguided.
@@bitch8205late comment but she often got a bad rep due to her mental health. She was viewed as crazy and at the time some even said she was a spy because she grew up in the south.
Just one correction the Baby Ruth candy bar really had nothing to do with Ruth Cleveland. It was first marketed in 1920 and it was named after Babe Ruth and when Ruth threatened to sue the Curtiss Candy Company they pretended it was named for Ruth Cleveland and somehow got away with it. Thank you for your videos I ALWAYS enjoy them.
The Bellevue Hospital gate sign in Mrs. Lincoln’s segment is actually from Bellevue Hospital in New York City. It’s a completely unrelated institution. This sign is still visible on the oldest part of the gate.
Between this video and the last one, you’d think half the population in the 1800s died of tuberculosis. It must’ve been scary and tragic. We think we worry for our kids’ safety now; I can’t imagine how worried they felt. How little control they must’ve felt they had over their lives.
As tragic as it sounds most parents expected to lose one or two children, especially if they were sickly so they likely saw it coming for the weaker kids
There was no vaccinations for it then.That is why we were all given TB shots at school. Imagine if it was now?? Only 46% of Americans allowed Covid vaccinations? We would have TB STILL killing people .? Thank God we had more sense back . Otherwise Polio, TB and all the other diseases we were all vaccinated against would be running rampant.
While you're on the subject of America, consider doing a video on the history of abortion. Women have been ending their pregnancies since the dawn of time and laws have evolved a lot in this country, from it being not criminalized to criminalized to constitutionally protected to not constitutionally protected.
That was back when there was barely any efficient birth control or none at all. Nowadays there’s really no excuse other than cases where it may be necessary.
That’s a great idea! I would love it! As I find it sad today. One comment regarding that abortion isn’t necessary in this day and age reminds me of the numerous cases of rape and incest that go unreported to the authorities. In addition, birth control was at one time considered a criminal act so it sounds like that is where the Americans are headed with their archaic thoughts and beliefs regarding women and their bodies. Such an interesting topic to be portrayed!
Umm are we just going to gloss over Libby Cleveland being “too smart” and U-Hauling with her lady to Europe? Lindsay please bless us with more details of her story in one of your LGBTQ+ historical figure videos because I don’t ever remember hearing her story.
I have the tea ladies!!! It's a Washington Post article titled, A gay first lady? Yes, we’ve already had one, and here are her love letters. The hyperlink kept getting axed by RUclips. Lindsay ought to create a bonus feature of Rose Cleveland in honor of PRIDE month. Even Eleanor Roosevelt was bi & had a female lover too with a journalist. The letters are juicy & steamy to say the least! 🥵 I once picked Rose Cleveland for a First Ladies extra credit history assignment & I was delightfully surprised when reading about her bio. Saw a lot of myself in this badass First Lady! Her Wikipedia page is just 👌 Personality-wise, we're soul sisters, Esp. 21:14---21:18 😂💅💯. Ps: Her brother was nicknamed Grover the Good, but more like Grover the Groomer 😳🤢🤮 Nice, they even rhyme 😈
I have enjoyed so very much each part of this series. It’s enlightening to hear about the “other halves” of the presidencies when we all know they have always played such a silent but pillar part in history. I didn’t know more than half of the things you mentioned and I appreciate your time and quality you so apparently put into this series.
I’m a woman and at times I think it seemed like a mistake. Women are very emotional and soft. Looking at the way they are acting now and in the recent past I think it’s safe to say a lot of them are bat shit crazy. Most of them in my family and my husbands, I don’t trust them to peel potatoes.
@@darlalove So the smart, well thought women should have their voter rights taken away then? Ridiculous. A woman being emotional and soft doesn’t automatically stop her for using her head either. If you’re talking about overly emotional (all emotions and zero logic) then that’s a different story but there’s many soft feminine women who are intelligent and smart.
I really wish that you was my history teacher I enjoy your videos and I look forward to them each and every day I can’t wait for the next part in the series
So thankful you produce such quality history programming. You are one of the best!!!! I wish you only continued luck. Also, I feel bad that Mary Lincoln lived before medication. No doubt many of us would be like her without medical aid.
I got to learn a new tibit about fellow Wells College Alumna Frank Folsom Cleveland today. So thanks I have am obsessed with her since I attended Wells. There is a building on campus named for her.
I'm always amazed at how much like Lincoln my distantly related husband seems, gawky and tall as well as personality. Mary Todd was very much maligned, even if she didn't have the emotional stability to take on the Upper Crust of Washington. I never heard about the 'wide grin' at Abe's death. I've been a neuro icu nurse for 30 years and see that at the moment of brain herniation in some patients. So that's an interesting detail I learned.
I'm really enjoying this series. Also - whoa! Had no idea of how progressive Lucy Hayes was! I'm a bit mad that the stuff I've only ever heard of her diminished the other justice efforts she was part of
The only thing I'll point out is that Ulysses Grant didn't buy a slave, he was essentially a weeding gift from his father in law. And to be fair, emancipating him was a big deal, since the slave trade was made illegal, slaves were very valuable, selling him would have gotten Ulysses about 1000 dollars back then which would have been more than enough to support his wife and family
I spent a few years in Fremont Ohio and I frequently visited Rutherford's Speigle Grove. It was a beautiful area. They have Victorian Era events throughout the year for halloween and Christmas. It is truly beautiful and underrated.
This is wonderful. I only know of one other RUclips video about the presidents' wives, and yours is more extensive. Thank you so much for bringing these women to their deserved attention.
Yeah, it does sound very much like TBI. Such a shame that her last surviving son didn't show more sympathy. Good for her that she set her lawyer and public opinion against him in order to gain back her freedom from the asylum.
The Hardscrabble cabin still stands! Grant’s Farm is a local gem for those who love history, animals, and beer. Nothing in St. Louis happens without beer 😆
Fun fact and Mary Todd Lincoln was a respected sister to Queen Victoria and Mrs. Lincoln seemed to love her adopted sister very much even though Mary seemed erratic
LoL the woman who said women aren't intelligent enough to vote? And her husband was a groomer who married her as his god daughter. It's one of the most cringy part of history I've heard n a while.
I must say, I felt icky hearing about these old men arrying women that could have been their DAUGHTERS. I wonder how the women truly felt about it.. At least the Harrison family made it clear that it was not a good look...
Wow I actually feel bad for Mary Lincoln imagine having a sweet moment with your husband and he gets shot in the head 5 minutes later 😭😭😭
Surely they had lots of sweet moments - and much better that than a blazing row or something.
@@lilymarinovic1644 Their letters to each other are really cute lmao
Shortly before the assassination, they talked about traveling, or so some of the stories say. He wanted to to see Israel.
It must be incredibly painful to lose your husband to a murderer. Public figure or private citizen.
@@PrincessQ-fj9ly Annnnddd they just had a similar situation over in Japan. RIP to former PM Shinzo Abe and my sympathies to his family.
Mary Lincoln lived a sad life. So much grief and then her only living son not talking to her. She was a strong lady to have gone through all that
Sad life in luxury. 🙄 The real sad lives were the slaves her family owned.
@@MusicandDancing4Ever yet, she believed it was wrong. Two things can be sad at the same time. She was more abolitionist than her husband. Mary todd Lincoln lived a devastating life and it’s okay to acknowledge it.
@@MusicandDancing4Ever Thank God it's not a competition of who has it worse
@@MusicandDancing4Ever Whataboutism
She had a mental illness, I believe she suffered from depression and schizophrenia.
I like how Ulysses Grant won over his future wife by making a little yellow coffin for her dead canary and convinced some soldiers to help him perform a funeral for it. Rather morbid yet...still very sweet. Nice touch, Mr. President 😏
I know, it's weird, but kinda sweet. And he showed her that he cared deeply for her feelings, even if it was just for the dead bird. I would probably marry him too after that.
@@Nikki-tx6kh The fact that he also loved her enough that he didn't care about her crossed eyes, and discouraged her from doing a (surely risky) eye surgery to attempt to correct them, was also very sweet.
I agree with both of you ❤️
Poor 🦜🥺
I understand completely. When I was a kid we had a yellow parakeet we loved. When she died, we buried her in a special place on our property. Many decades later we still remember this bird fondly.
Lucy Hayes sounds great. Grover Cleveland was throwing up flags of every shade of red!
I really like Lucy Hayes, too!
I've noticed that many of the best First Ladies tend to have a very feisty personality (Abigail Adams, Mary Lincoln, Julia Grant, Lucy Hayes, etc.).
Did you know that Lucy Hayes was also a big supporter of prohibition. She would not serve alcohol at the White House and instead would serve lemonade. That's how she earned her nickname. "Lemonade Lucy."
Lucy Hayes was one of my favorites from this list. Loved all the causes she was passionate about (although prohibition was always doomed), and I particularly like how very present (looking directly at the viewer with a very engaged and amused expression) she looks in her portraits. It's a shame she died so young and that she lost all her children young as well.
I knew that one. She would have been mad at me then... I need my 🍹& mimosas..
I did!
Though that nickname was not used while she was alive, rather it became a thing after her death.
So is no one going to talk about the grooming from Grover Cleveland?
I had to pause right there and check the comments... big yikes???? 🤢
Right!
And of course his indoctrinated young wife grew up to become a far right who opposed women's suffrage and saying women aren't intelligent enough 🤢 cringe and more cringe
It sets of so many red flags, I swear.
That’s what I was thinking! At least all of the other presidents who married younger women married them when they were in their 20s and when they met them when they were older!
Hearing how Grant had his future wife wear his class ring as a symbol of their engagement made me remember that my cousin's husband also went to west point and graduated and when my cousin graduated high school he gave her a replica of his west point class ring as her engagement ring and it's really pretty. Now I see where this idea came from of the class ring turning into the engagement ring. Very sentimental 😊
Mary Todd Lincoln definitely is one of the most tragic examples of US First Ladies.
She, Ida McKinley and Jane Pierce experienced so much loss with just their children alone, and Ida and Mary losing their husbands tragically too.
I cried for Mary. All that grief? The fact she was even able to function at all is a testament to her strength cause I would’ve just curled into a ball & gave up
I think actress, Mary Tyler Moore, performed the role of Mary Todd Lincoln in a TV miniseries in 1970s or early 80s. She was marvelous especially at capturing Mary Todd's volatile mood swings.
@@paulhunter6742 Sally Fields did an amazing job at portraying her in the Lincoln movie as well!
I feel so bad for Mary Todd Lincoln. Her life was full of grief and hardship a few of her children, parents, and spouse all died which she had to take in. I hope she is resting in peace.
The one who married his Dad's friend who bought her a carriage as a baby- Eww, Jesus, gross.
I always wondered which First Lady queen Victoria had a conversation with and something in common with the most. Mary Todd Lincoln makes sense.
Can't help but think that Mary Lincoln would have been the one as well. They had a fair bit in common
The death of President Garfield in 1881 moved the Queen, who never ceased mourning the loss of her own husband. On September 25, 1881, the day before President Garfield’s massive funeral in Cleveland, Queen Victoria wrote a letter to Lucretia Garfield. “I have anxiously watched,” she wrote, “the long, and fear at times, painful sufferings of your valiant husband and shared in the fluctuations between hope and fear, the former of which decreased about two months ago, and greatly to preponderate over the latter- and above all I fell in deeply for you!” As a gesture of her deep sorrow for Mrs. Garfield and the people of the United States, the Queen sent a large wreath of white tuberose to the funeral. The wreath was placed on the President’s casket as his body lay in state in Washington, D.C. and during his funeral in Cleveland.
It seems Victoria spoke to more than one, well sent condolences and used the occasion to have self pity over her own loss.
I can't believe someone told Mary she was lucky she was with her son when he died (comparing her to mothers whose sons were killed in the war); sure, real lucky, to lose her 11-year-old son, who had nothing to do with the war. People can be so crummy.
I mean to an extent she was because most mothers never got to see their sons again from the war but yes that was still very cold
Better than what Queen Victoria told her daughter when she lost a child. That it didn't compare to losing a husband since the child wasn't alive as long or something to that effect.
MYKONIIC HISTORY CHANNEL Yeah she said losing a child isnt as tragic as losing a husband and that her daughter should get over her grief as if she didnt spend 40 years mourning Albert
And most of those sons volunteered to fight
@@vampiregamingyt8754 No a lot didn't but keep thinking they did.
I’m sorry the bird funeral was so wholesome 😭
.... I don't think that Grover marrying Frank was what her father had in mind, on his death bed, when he asked Grover to take of his little girl... Ugh, ick...
That story creeped me out, like "I bought your cradle, now would you marry me?" 🤮
You’re doing a great thing for women by making these
Id say the best portrayal of a first lady on film was by Sally Field who played Mary Todd Lincoln in the film, Lincoln (2012)
The fact you called Abraham Lincoln Franklin Pierce got me, haha.
Queen Emma preferred to go as Queen Liliuokalani of Hawaii as it was her Hawaiian name. She also wrote Aloha Oe!
Queen Emma of Hawaii (wife of King Kamehameha IV) is not the same person as Queen Lilio'ukalani (who was Queen in her own right)
@@lilymarinovic1644 thanks for the correction and correct me if i'm wrong here but Lindsay may have also used a photo of queen Liliuokalani although the photo was shown only briefly. thank for letting me know i seem to be needing a refresh on Hawaiian history, something i will be ratifying right away.
Grover Cleveland married his ward (possibly goddaughter)... That's very creepy...
I was looking for this exact comment.
@@novemBURRbby I had to say it & I'm cringing. Then her Mom wanted Grover Cleveland but Cleveland wanted his goddaughter. YUCK!!!! And she wanted his old butt too... Smh...
Just imagine the conversations people might have had
"They look so happy I wonder what the first gift between them was?"
"He gave the bride her first baby carrige. No not for their own children for...her". Just ugh
@@Chshirecat13 Lmbo... He gave her piggyback rides when she was a kid. He helped her with her homework & took her on field trips to the zoo. He signed her permission slips when she was a kid.
One of the biggest examples of Wife Husbandry out there in real life. There were rumors that he would marry Frances' mother, but nope, he married Frances herself. Apparently he once said to a reporter who asked him why he wasn't married yet, "I'm just waiting for my wife to grow up." which is the page quote for Wife Husbandry on TV Tropes. We don't know for sure if he actually said that or not, but seeing as Frances was a generation younger than him, we can say that later events eventually proved that quote.
What a mganificent content we nearly don't know anything about these important ladies.
Most literature on Mary Todd Lincoln completely maligns her, so it was nice to hear a more balanced view. Also, never heard the story about their exchange in the theater, and probably Lincoln's last words to his wife. Wow. Very tiny correction: Hiram is pronounced HIGH-rim. Loving this series!
Another small correction, on April 9th Robert E Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia. There were other armies that kept fighting until June.
I've never read any literature that includes her, how is she usually maligned? If you don't mind me asking
@@bitch8205 Usually, they make Mary Todd Lincoln sound like a loon, without any empathy for her personal history and subsequent mental health issues.
I saw a comment which said that she ate a lot of pears in one sitting and threw up and the staff were mad that they had to clean it up everytime
@@bitch8205 The general view in some books is that she was totally crazy and did nothing but make Abraham's life miserable. This attitude seems to be changing to a more balanced one. As Lindsay said in the video, some historians now think she had bipolar disorder. Imagine having three of your children die and witnessing your husband's murder.
As a non-American this series has been very interesting for me, so thank you for making it.
Can you do a series on real life gilded age ladies (not fictional characters from the series) like The Vanderbilts or the Astors
Go to Newport, RI and see their summer places if you want to learn about them.
@@chrismetafora6565 because it’s so easy for anyone to travel all the way to Newport and RI
I already know about them I just want to learn EVERYTHING
@@chrismetafora6565 Not all of the mansions are opened to the public. Also, except for Marble House, I knew more than the guides.
@@lauravalentine9488 So do I. :) I was dragged down there many, many times.
QUEE VICTORIA’S LETTER TO MRS LINCOLN:
Thought a stranger to you, cannot remain silent w[?] so terrible a calamity has fallen upon you and your country; and must personally express my deep and heartfelt sympathy wi[?] you under shocking circumstances of your present- dreadful misfortune. No one can better appreciate, than I can, who am myself utterly broken hearted by the loss of my own beloved husband, who was the light of my life, my stay, my all, -what your own sufferings must be, and I earnestly pray that you may be supported by Him, to whom alone the sorely stricken can look for comfort in their hour of heavy afflication.
With the renewed expression of true sympathy, I remain, dear Madam, Your sincere friend, Victoria
Queen Elizabeth II sent a similar letter of condolence to Jackie Kennedy. It was portrayed in The Crown
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And she had bells tolled in his honor.
That is a truly beautiful letter.
@@thunderbird1921 really? I thought letter's are advising you to pay your bills on time or face enforcement/warrants.... thats all the letters i get lol
Grover Cleveland? More like Groomer Cleveland. What a creep
Lucy and Rutherford Hayes were truly in love. Rutherford's last words were "I know that I'm going where Lucy is."
Mary Lincoln gets such a bad rep, but she was really trying her best to stay strong through all the tragedies she went through. Losing her son and being treated coldly for it, losing her husband, it was all too much for any person.
Why does she get a bad rep? I never learned about her prior to this video
@@bitch8205 She had some mental health issues and was unfortunately the victim of fake news and some bad financial advice. She was given an allowance to redecorate the White House and while she did overspend a bit, most of the money that went missing was the fault of someone on Mr.Lincoln's cabinet. He was the one who blew through the money like he had a coke problem and he blamed her for her it.
People at the time thought she was a southern sympathizer and she wasn't.
Most people now only remember Mary for 'being crazy'. She was a very sweet lady who didn't get the help she needed, and who was given too much of a medicine dose by a doctor which is part of what caused her to go off the rails in her later years. Nobody ever talks about Mary's good qualities or how she'd sincerely apologize after her outbursts.
@@bitch8205 It was more so back then than now. So many young people died in battle so the outpouring of grief for their lost son was seen as out of touch and crude. Of course, this was misguided.
@@bitch8205late comment but she often got a bad rep due to her mental health. She was viewed as crazy and at the time some even said she was a spy because she grew up in the south.
I'd love to watch a series about white house weddings! Nellie Grant had a particularly jaw-dropping event!
Just one correction the Baby Ruth candy bar really had nothing to do with Ruth Cleveland.
It was first marketed in 1920 and it was named after Babe Ruth and when Ruth threatened to sue the Curtiss Candy Company they pretended it was named for Ruth Cleveland and somehow got away with it.
Thank you for your videos I ALWAYS enjoy them.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Ruth
Lucy Hayes sounds like a pretty cool First Lady. And Rutherford sounds like an attentive husband. That's always nice to hear.
The Bellevue Hospital gate sign in Mrs. Lincoln’s segment is actually from Bellevue Hospital in New York City. It’s a completely unrelated institution. This sign is still visible on the oldest part of the gate.
Between this video and the last one, you’d think half the population in the 1800s died of tuberculosis.
It must’ve been scary and tragic. We think we worry for our kids’ safety now; I can’t imagine how worried they felt. How little control they must’ve felt they had over their lives.
In the middle ages was dysentery or plague. From the renaissance to the georgians was smallpox and for Georgians and Victorians was TB.
Yeah. TB seems to be the number 1 killer of the early first ladies and their children.
As tragic as it sounds most parents expected to lose one or two children, especially if they were sickly so they likely saw it coming for the weaker kids
@@emilybarclay8831 this is sad but true.
There was no vaccinations for it then.That is why we were all given TB shots at school. Imagine if it was now?? Only 46% of Americans allowed Covid vaccinations? We would have TB STILL killing people .? Thank God we had more sense back . Otherwise Polio, TB and all the other diseases we were all vaccinated against would be running rampant.
While you're on the subject of America, consider doing a video on the history of abortion. Women have been ending their pregnancies since the dawn of time and laws have evolved a lot in this country, from it being not criminalized to criminalized to constitutionally protected to not constitutionally protected.
!!!! this
I agree, this would be an interesting watch
@@Trouble_Bubble36 boohoo
That was back when there was barely any efficient birth control or none at all. Nowadays there’s really no excuse other than cases where it may be necessary.
That’s a great idea! I would love it! As I find it sad today. One comment regarding that abortion isn’t necessary in this day and age reminds me of the numerous cases of rape and incest that go unreported to the authorities. In addition, birth control was at one time considered a criminal act so it sounds like that is where the Americans are headed with their archaic thoughts and beliefs regarding women and their bodies. Such an interesting topic to be portrayed!
27 ... And she was an infant?!
Why is no one else taking about this????
This feels wrong and concerning
Some of these stories are so sweet and romantic!
Umm are we just going to gloss over Libby Cleveland being “too smart” and U-Hauling with her lady to Europe? Lindsay please bless us with more details of her story in one of your LGBTQ+ historical figure videos because I don’t ever remember hearing her story.
Yeah... heard briefly of this before but how is the story not more widely known? Historians, get on it!
I have the tea ladies!!! It's a Washington Post article titled, A gay first lady? Yes, we’ve already had one, and here are her love letters. The hyperlink kept getting axed by RUclips. Lindsay ought to create a bonus feature of Rose Cleveland in honor of PRIDE month. Even Eleanor Roosevelt was bi & had a female lover too with a journalist. The letters are juicy & steamy to say the least! 🥵 I once picked Rose Cleveland for a First Ladies extra credit history assignment & I was delightfully surprised when reading about her bio. Saw a lot of myself in this badass First Lady! Her Wikipedia page is just 👌 Personality-wise, we're soul sisters, Esp. 21:14---21:18 😂💅💯.
Ps: Her brother was nicknamed Grover the Good, but more like Grover the Groomer 😳🤢🤮 Nice, they even rhyme 😈
Don't forget they had another "friend" that they lived with and were buried next to.
@Rach "oh my god, they were roommates"
I went to Ford's Theatre and appreciated the history thrumming through it, now even more so by Mary's story!
I have enjoyed so very much each part of this series. It’s enlightening to hear about the “other halves” of the presidencies when we all know they have always played such a silent but pillar part in history. I didn’t know more than half of the things you mentioned and I appreciate your time and quality you so apparently put into this series.
Thank you very much! I'm really enjoying this series!
This is really interesting and a lot that is never spoken about. I just can't get over the women who were opposed to the vote.
I’m a woman and at times I think it seemed like a mistake. Women are very emotional and soft. Looking at the way they are acting now and in the recent past I think it’s safe to say a lot of them are bat shit crazy. Most of them in my family and my husbands, I don’t trust them to peel potatoes.
@@darlalove I hope you heal from your internalized misogyny
@@darlalove As opposed to men, who are never emotional and thus have never started any wars or had emotional reactions to anything.
@@piratesswoop725 They also never, ever do things that are "batshit crazy."
@@darlalove So the smart, well thought women should have their voter rights taken away then? Ridiculous. A woman being emotional and soft doesn’t automatically stop her for using her head either. If you’re talking about overly emotional (all emotions and zero logic) then that’s a different story but there’s many soft feminine women who are intelligent and smart.
Lucy Hayes was quite an inspiration.
I really wish that you was my history teacher I enjoy your videos and I look forward to them each and every day I can’t wait for the next part in the series
I'm really enjoying these videos on the First Ladies of US. Well done! 👍👍👍
“Keeping it civil.”
I see what you did there!
So thankful you produce such quality history programming. You are one of the best!!!! I wish you only continued luck. Also, I feel bad that Mary Lincoln lived before medication. No doubt many of us would be like her without medical aid.
Love all these ladies and this series!!
I got to learn a new tibit about fellow Wells College Alumna Frank Folsom Cleveland today. So thanks
I have am obsessed with her since I attended Wells.
There is a building on campus named for her.
Mary Lincoln had such a tragic life. Poor lady.
I'm always amazed at how much like Lincoln my distantly related husband seems, gawky and tall as well as personality. Mary Todd was very much maligned, even if she didn't have the emotional stability to take on the Upper Crust of Washington. I never heard about the 'wide grin' at Abe's death. I've been a neuro icu nurse for 30 years and see that at the moment of brain herniation in some patients. So that's an interesting detail I learned.
I'm really enjoying this series. Also - whoa! Had no idea of how progressive Lucy Hayes was! I'm a bit mad that the stuff I've only ever heard of her diminished the other justice efforts she was part of
Thank you for doing videos on the First Ladies.
Did Mrs Lincoln’s laudanum habit exacerbate her conditions, or was it her attempt to medicate them...?
The only thing I'll point out is that Ulysses Grant didn't buy a slave, he was essentially a weeding gift from his father in law. And to be fair, emancipating him was a big deal, since the slave trade was made illegal, slaves were very valuable, selling him would have gotten Ulysses about 1000 dollars back then which would have been more than enough to support his wife and family
To give some clarity, Lindsay, Abraham Lincoln was 56 when he died. And Ellen Herndon Arthur died in 1880 at age 42.
Great history video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon. Your history videos are always enjoyable and relaxing 😀😀
Loved the title 👌🏿
I spent a few years in Fremont Ohio and I frequently visited Rutherford's Speigle Grove. It was a beautiful area. They have Victorian Era events throughout the year for halloween and Christmas. It is truly beautiful and underrated.
The slide for Mary Todd Lincoln states she was married to “Franklin Pierce” whoops 🙃
Obligatory : NEW LINDSAY LET'S GOOOOO!!
I learn so much from these!!!
Please do videos on the descantants of the first ladies of the united states
Can't wait for the next batch of ladies 😍
Pls make video on Portugal queens and King
Grover Cleveland.... Woody Allen prototype 🤢
Harrison too! Marrying his dead wife's niece (who is younger than his own daughter)! Cleveland and Harrison both win the creep award. Blech!
“She almost committed suicide” As someone who’s friend committed I felt that. She’s alive thank goodness(Eli AKA my friend)
The KS for another video i really love your content
I am apparently very distantly related to Mary Dimick Harrison, didn't know that!
grover cleveland 🤨🤨
This is wonderful. I only know of one other RUclips video about the presidents' wives, and yours is more extensive. Thank you so much for bringing these women to their deserved attention.
Not all first ladies are president's wife
Love this video! Informative, it's good to know about the quiet power behind the throne. These women had greatly influenced their men.
It sounds to me like Marry had a TBI. If it was frontal lobe, her behavior would make more sense.
Yeah, it does sound very much like TBI. Such a shame that her last surviving son didn't show more sympathy. Good for her that she set her lawyer and public opinion against him in order to gain back her freedom from the asylum.
The Hardscrabble cabin still stands! Grant’s Farm is a local gem for those who love history, animals, and beer. Nothing in St. Louis happens without beer 😆
Damm, Lucy Hayes was the HBIC, 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mary Todd Lincoln deeply loved her husband....
Rutherford Hayes was hunky!
On 7:30, you can see the ghost of abraham lincon
Benjamin Harrison & his wife were a nice, intelligent couple.
Nice I enjoy your videos
Fun fact and Mary Todd Lincoln was a respected sister to Queen Victoria and Mrs. Lincoln seemed to love her adopted sister very much even though Mary seemed erratic
Ummmmm Grover……..
Love to see u do videos on australia & other parts of the world
Mary Lincoln seems like a tragic figure. I always had thought she was a rather unkind woman.
She was very kind and very generous. She once nursed a neighbor's baby and later started a fundraiser for an injured little boy.
Halfway through!
I love your voice sooo much.
I have sympathy for Mary todd lincoln and I love Frances Cleveland.
LoL the woman who said women aren't intelligent enough to vote? And her husband was a groomer who married her as his god daughter. It's one of the most cringy part of history I've heard n a while.
Poor Mary
Ummmmmmmm am I the only one who sees AB Lincoln in the 7.33 mark of the video of the picture of his wife 👀
No, that style of photograph was very common at the time.
Who is your favorite fist lady of this era?
Mary Lincoln
Lucy Heyes
Is part 4 not out yet ?
Rose Cleveland grew up not far from me too!
First time I heard about Lincolns hand holding. Thanks.
Is Lindsay going to do a presidents who were assassinated video.
Omg! A first lady has my name!!
My legal name is Eliza!
7:33 Did no one else notice abraham lincoln's ghost in that portrait? Was it just me? Am I seeing things?
Anyone else find that last picture of Mary Todd Lincoln a little creepy? No? Just me? Ok.
Vox has a video on those photos and how it was put there by the photographer making it look like a ghost even though it wasn't
So many of them were born in Ohio.
sorry cant listen when you extend every word clip them up
Sources?
I must say, I felt icky hearing about these old men arrying women that could have been their DAUGHTERS. I wonder how the women truly felt about it.. At least the Harrison family made it clear that it was not a good look...
14:40 was so sweet-- civing a sentimental ring to ur husband-- crying bc that's goals. 17:29 too!!!! Good, healthy relationships>>>>