that looks painful for the streetcar!
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From the thumbnail I was going to guess someone had rammed their car into the tram...
Not exactly haha
@@RMTransit but almost
Yes i thought they rammed the Tesla into the tram!🤣
Not sure if Tram would even hurt too much if the car rammed into it. Lol
Same, this happens too much and then the tram gets blamed with suggestive titles for literally being there
That dude with the white car backing up like the streetcar's gonna offtrack into him...
The white car knows it is in the presence of an apex predator. As such, it must retreat. Slowly.
habit, you gotta do that for a truck hauling a trailer
Well as you can see, the streetcar is larger than the tracks
Better safe than sorry
Good practice to get used to backing up incase you come across a truck or bus, then it will be instinct and there'll be no scratches on your car to fix
its a tram. no?
Cyclist be like "whatever streetcar, wheeeee!"
maybe they are local and know how long it takes the streetcar to make that turn 😆
@@Snowshowslow and this is the logic that makes any professional driver pissed at bikers.
@@bigniks23 And then presumably also angry at drivers, where there are also enough entitled assholes? Or are all cyclists responsible for all cyclists and are all drivers individuals?
@@SnowshowslowAll people can be entitled in general but the level of disregard cyclists have for the law is ridiculous. The streetcar had the right away all incoming traffic has to yield. Now if that cyclist misjudged the timing the worst part would he get hurt but he's also put in that train conductor job and jeopardy because He's not getting judge as a regular driver but as a professional (hints on why professional drivers would be pissed because you're playing with their job for being selfish) even though it would be clearly the bicyclist fault. I seen a bicyclist keep blasting through the bike lane while a car was patiently waiting to make its right hand turn. And try to act like it's The driver's fault for hitting him. Whoever makes it to the light first is supposed to yield. I seen numerous cyclists run stagnant red lights, blow stop signs. I even have one roll up on the left of me and cut across in front of me. Cyclists for the most part, do not understand law, communication and etiquette.
@@bigniks23 a car clearly did the same as him right after
Ouch. Poor tram
It looks like that tilt caused a TRAIN reaction!
😂 indeed it may have
Wow! 100 likes!
Trams r slow speed so its not difficult for them to bend it like Beckham. 🤷♂️🤣🤭
@@surojeetchatterjeedo you know how slow the ttc streetcars are? and yes I'm late
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have to say that I enjoy watching the inside of the Bombardier streetcars bend as they negotiate a turn. The extreme one on the 504 from Cherry Street onto King is particularly satisfying.
I agree it can be very satisfying!
Watching articulation from the inside is always fun, especially when you can look down the entire length of a car and see it wiggle and bend as you go.
What city is that in? Probably a stupid question but i want to see it on google maps haha
@@TheGovernanceNavigator neville park loop, Toronto
If this was BART, everyone's eardrums would be shredded by now.
gf lives in Castro Valley, i live in Seattle. spend like $100 on stupid bart every time i visit for a week because i stay by dublin/pleasanton. bart is too expensive for what its worth
@@seatripreports Beats paying for a rental car though. BART is a suburb connector though hence the higher cost, unlike the Muni Metro subway in San Francisco that's only $2.50 for 2 hours on the network.
😂😂 omg yes!! I feel like the loudest section on Bart is definitely the the Oakland wye.
There quite in Toronto
@@anthonysnyder1152 Yep, BART is not a subway way but more like a commuter.
Well the Ottawa LRT can't go around a much wider turn without an insane amount of steel noise and vibration. So this was positively lovely to watch.
The basic architecture of the Ottawa LRT trains are actually much better suited to curves like this. The noise and vibration around bends is from the funny flexible frame bogie Alstom keeps on trying to make happen.
@@cityjetproductions That's above my knowledge base, I hadn't heard about this flexible frame bogie. All I heard, and it's just hearsay, is that the bogies don't actually swivel at all or very little. Based on my limited understanding of train bogies, that seems really strange to me, especially with these trains having to make frequent tight turns. The Cyrville-Lees portion of the line is infuriatingly slow. But I digress.
@@danc1513 there are dampers mounted between the bogies and the body which are not usually found on this type of vehicle but seem to have been fitted here for high speed stability.
Or the howling sound of a BART train going around any curve at all.
So, it's turning. Respect the tracks!
If you listen closely, you can hear the accordion noises as it goes round the corner.
Ah hell naw look at the between of the third and fourth car, it’s kinda lifted up
That’s Because it only has three bogeys for 5 sections
Cool
Bruh i was expecting Something extraordinary but i only got a normal Tram in a normal turn
There is one tight bend on the Ion route in Kitchener that doesn't quite tilt like this. It does slow the train to a crawl though.
I know exactly the turn you're talking about
@@_framedlife There are like, multiple on the Kitchener section of the line. Which one are they talking about 🗿
You should see what line 12E in Lisbon is doing! It’s a roller coaster disguised as a tram/streetcar :P
Safe enough 😂
I live in Victoria so when I go to Melbourne I film trains and trams there but I haven’t seen a tram tilt like that here
Also that lift of the drivers cabin, the distance between the front and the first bogie ist incredible 😂
It's literally not that bad lol
Yes it is lol to tram standards. Its not a motorcyle little buddy
@@yassinvnoord if it was then how come they didn't renovate the track/area to allow for a wider turn since it is "painful for the streetcar" 💀
TTC isn't blind to this stuff and if it was genuinely causing component damage they would have made needed modifications to this turn-around point 🤦♂️
@@theepicgamer84 the same reason why there are 50.000 american veterans sleeping on the street right now. You guys really live in a 3rd world run down country with a gucci belt🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 believe me this would NOT be okay in europe
@@yassinvnoord Oh, you're one of those people. Great.
@@moho472 "one of those people" meaning higher safety standards?
Any car dependency is uglier than any imperfect train situation
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Car dependency is depressing and become a nightmare. Too much traffic, too much air and noise pollution, and cars themselves are expensive and smelly! This is why people don't like to drive.
@@durece100there’s also a lot do people that prefer their privacy to haul their families on wheels. Also the working class who has vans, cars, and trucks for their own business or a company vehicle. Why can’t we have both?
@@C1K450 That won't work. Too much car space to parking 🅿. Families need to move mixed use urban areas instead of stay in suburban areas.
Should i sell 1 of my 3 cars or 2 motorcycles? Lol
Wow!
That's kinda like watching a city bus back up!
just look of any eastern europe trams and how they bounce on old terrible tracks and this curve would be nothing for you
looks cool to me.
That does not look very stable. Can literally see the bottom of the tram.
I got nervous thinking, “oh no, here comes a bike!” - it’s clear I work in public transit outreach 🤣😂
That tilt is wild!
Am I missing something? Just looks like a streetcar making a sharp left turn.
Amazing the flange never climbes the rail with such sharp curves!
Ever lost a loved one? I guarantee you it's worse than a u-turn in a street car.
Ours in Melbourne, Australia just have driver carriages at both ends so an outbound tram just changes onto the inbound track at the very end and walks to the (now) front
Do all trams in the world not have a driver cab at both ends? I though that was tram/train design 101.
@@closeben Older systems that were built in the 19th or early 20th century are often single-ended, as is the case in Toronto. This is also true for most systems in Poland, Slovakia, Czechia and the Balkans.
That's normal, I live in Zagreb and 5-section trams here have the only vertical kink exactly in the same place, between sections 3 and 4
Probably using the same rolling stock.
the old trams were better
❤ Toronto, no place like home 💙
The underground section of the Exhibition street car line has a turn with an even smaller radius. You can see the train articulating around it from the inside and it looks wild.
"you have not felt true pain until you've seen a street car turn around in Toronto's east end."
That could only have been said by somebody who has never had gout.
At Caledonia and St Clair, arch flash everytime one passes... probably plenty of other spots to.
💥
The CLRVs definitely didn't have this problem but the Flexity have more capacity and are better for people with disabilities.
i've never been in the ttc but i've seen the whole fleet at least 100 times lol
God damn Toronto is rough driving when im in a big rig going to a job down road where even cars have trouble
Just go to Ottawa and witness the speed that the LRT crawls at you could walk faster the it moves.....
Canadian transit is stuck in the 1800's
End
love how the car yielded to the streetcar, meanwhile a cyclist didn't give a f and just went straight through (i know they had the right of way but still, I have been to this loop, streetcars sometimes have to wait so long, they get impatient)
Sign says: "Starbucks drinkers, keep your caps on!"
Same thing as trams tho right!? I'm from Melbourne Australia and we have a whole fleet of them and a fair few daily routes running every 5-15 mins!
We have that but worse in Helsinki. Helsinki trams are designed for tracks of helsinki there is so many sharp curves
Reminds me of Boston B line trains going out of or into service.
Wasn't there a curve right near Symphony that screeched really loudly?
@@ak5659 - Your probably thinking of Boylston.
cyclist really said "streetcar my ass bro" 💀
And they say Double bus cannot go in Dorval yet I have seen them at Rosemount station , they can
That’s worse than the donut van in cities skylines
That’s one good looking train though
Reminds me of a freight line curve in Powell Yard (Manassas, Va) that was so tight that comfort cab trains were screeching louder than the engine itself. It was taken out in 2001 and a wider one was built to take its place.
What pain? That streetcar is more articulate than my spine.
IT IS SO SCARY I totally agree
Cities skylines trams
That's nothing. In my home town there was a turning loop so tight that only the older trams from like the 1960s could traverse through it. Literally every newer tram wasn't even allowed on that route, until they eventually widened its radius, which meant that it now crosses half way into the road beyond its original grass boundary.
Also, because the two sets of tracks running along that street were too close together and the new trams were too wide, that entire street could only be run by old trams too. The newer ones would scrape past each other during oncoming traffic lol. So they also had to rebuild all the tracks all along that street...
...which was sad because it meant once that work was completed, there was no reason to keep the old trams around anymore, who by that time had only served that one line number anyway. And so they all got scrapped after that
But yeah... in a way they were technically superior to all the new ones. They could turn like no other and in the winter they were really warm and cozy lol
That car: ooh protection ooh cozy😊😊😊😊😊
That thing was about to derail💀
From the thumbnail I thought the biker was gonna get hit by the train and explode into a red stain
Add some eurobeat, speed it up, and we'd be racing into the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
true pain for a train would be to ear the wheel screeching like hell. Tilting is merely due to the conflicting street orientation in order to evacuate rain water
this is a tram!
That's actually pretty wide compared to most turns for our Helsinki trams. But to be fair, our turns were so tight that Bombardier has to pay the city back because the tight turns made their tram chassis' crack and now we have new Škoda Artic trams specially designed for our tight turns.
bro the same happens in Normanhurst station (sydney trains) where I was there, and the trains tilt was just painful.
I was on this thing last time i was in Toronto. It's HUGE.
The tram thinks it’s one of those Italian Pendelino trains. 💀🤣
Ask the person on the bicycle what they think about that tilt (Why so little tilt?).😀
They really need to upgrade that traction. Edit: or at the very least try to straighten out that curve
I'd love to see what one of these doing the turn at Bingham looks like, particularly that left turn from Kingston Road onto Victoria Park.
I never thought it was painful. I have slid all the way over to the other side of the long seat, and had to tell a stranger, "Oh, sorry Excuse me." But they were pretty chill about getting slid into.
Re the tilt: Isn't it that the road below is tilted?
I cannot tell but maybe someone else can say
Yes, this specific loop is on a steep hill by Queen and Neville Park.
Ey man let’s go 30 mph *dies*
See a tram turning around the tightest curve in melbourne. That is more pain.
My body: eh
My anxiety:📈📈📈📈📈
That's not pain, that's lateral acceleration.
now imagine it's in revenue service and all the passengers are standing at the tilting side waiting to deboard
That’s just the streetcars suspension
True pain is having a miscarriage or watching the death of a parent. True pain is not watching a tram turn at its terminus.
I was waiting for the twisting metal sound 😅
This is what doesn't convince me about trams
That trains suspension was probably crying 😂
its a tram!
Thst turnaround track has been there long before articulating street cars. It was built for the red rockets.
Bud that has nothing on the old cars
I haven't been to Canada since 1974 🏴❤🇨🇦 Unfortunately we bypassed T'rono on our way to Niagra Falls stopping overnight in Hamilton where they still had trolleybuses at the time. I would love to go back & visit Toronto to see the trams especially the preserved ones on special running days.
Lol why do you call a tram a "street car" when that term better describes actual cars? 😅
Its cuz the tracks are raised from the road and these turns are designed to do that from toronto theres quite a few of these
This is why I love riding streetcars/trams
I've seen curves like this in the tram network of my city, but since the toronto streetcars have a wider track gauge it's as impressive if not more
is this near RC Harris Water Treatment Plant?
Come check out the o train in Ottawa
Cycle is on priority on this line.
Not a good time for trams.....the previous video I just watched was from a Hakodate streetcar in VERY heavy snow....apparently enough to make another one derail a few days ago...
I wish the bus that takes me to work took the turns like that streetcar.
Class 390 be like:
You have not felt true pain until you've been on a cercanías train that starts bouncing for 10 minutes straight
im literally Canadian and this track should be replace very soon or not soon yet because the curve here is really hard for the streetcar driver to steer.
Streetcar just tryna bust a U-ey casually
So you tilt a little. Just as long as you can prepare for it and hold something, it's fine 🤷🏾♂️
😂 this short entered Studio 54
Makes me want to avoid sitting in the front car
One of the reasons these vehicles were a bespoke order - the turn radius in Toronto is exceptionally tight, no off-the-shelf model would work.
They're running on tracks designed for Peter Witts.
Perfect lean
TIL streetcars have turn signals.
I can’t believe I felt pain for a tram. The way the poor thing looked so strained while turning…
its normal!
Have you ever had pancreatitis? Worst pain I ever felt and I was only 12 at the time
This reminds me of the turnaround on the *N-Judah* line on the western terminus on Judah Street in the Outer Sunset near Ocean Beach in San Francisco 🚊🚋
First time in my life i see a train signaling a turn 😂
All trams do that because there are some motorists who struggle to grasp the concept of how rails work