Why the world's biggest song caused Gotye to quit
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Somebody That I Used to Know was a global phenomenon for Gotye. For many musicians this incredible success would be a dream come true and a springboard for making even further music, but Gotye hasn't released any new music since. What happen to Gotye?
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Bit misleading saying it's completely free to use, you only get a sample, you have to pay at least $18 for an actual track.
It works very well, I tried it last year or so to hear individual instruments from a song and was flashed by the result.
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congrats to more and more "copy and paste" ... dont you people have ORIGINAL ideas? Disgusting ... why do you become an artist, if you have nothing to say on your own ...
I knew Wally when I was a teenager. We were in the same small town in Victoria. I've got to say, it looks like fame hasn't changed him - he was always putting music first, helping other bands and just being a generally nice and approachable guy. Unlike the rest of us ratbags he always conducted himself well. A good example of his kindness is he once spent a whole day teaching me about Ableton and helping me cut samples for my band...I had no idea and he turned me on to digital audio - it set up a whole career for me. I'll always be grateful for that. Believe me when I say he's just a pretty normal guy, with above average intelligence and a pretty kind heart. Really proud of a lot of musicians from our little town, and Wally is one of the greats.
Now he's just someb--🤐
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777So, if I want to cover my walls with wallpaper, you'll insist on me learning to print wallpaper first?
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 I'm sure the person you're responding to appreciates your unsolicited opinion.
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 I was already an accomplished musician, I didn't need advice on that front - but I wasn't familiar with computer recording. I'd only used tape...don't forget it was the late 90s/early 2000s, so not everyone had a laptop with the latest digital audio software - especially in less wealthy areas. Please post some of your music so I can check it out - always glad to see someone who is so passionate about instruments.
@@lawrencegreenwood4002 I'm in a similar boat, but now. My instrument(s) come natural to me, but music software drives me nuts. Since I can't play drums I would've benefited from being able to use digital tracks (beyond multi-tracking my instruments and basic effects). I know a few people who are the opposite, but getting them to collaborate is like pulling teeth.
If he's still doing what he likes, and he's not poor, I'm happy for him.
he could bedoing what he like.....and be in a better place.......not really a smart move lol
its kinda sad tbh thats like the dreamjob for musician to have that massive recognition
Was that Prince? I thought it was a symbol rather?
You can be addicted to a certain kind of sadness
Indeed the fact that Prince said he loves this song is an award in of itself.
Prince casually saying he liked a song, not knowing that it is actually a pretty significant thing for a musician to achieve.
I had to watch this part again. Imagine how he felt hearing this. Sounds like a great guy.
Yeah nah that's the real award holy shit
@@azrael6280 I wouldn't say was casual about it. He said he loved it, not liked it and to plug that on the middle of the announcement says is special. Prince is not the kinda guy that talks without intent.
That would've been a particularly surreal moment for Kimbra since Prince was a big influence on her. She used to do a cover of his song "I Wanna Be Your Lover" in her live shows in early 2011, before "Somebody That I Used To Know" was released.
Let's not shortchange his voice. It's amazing, especially on the choruses. Cuts through like a knife.
Sting 2.0
@@r3furbish3dbrain12 First thought I had when I heard the song's chorus for the first time.
The range is incredible. I bet he would crush Take On Me
He became somebody that We used to know.
lol
@@heitor5998don't encourage him
Have you ever produced an original thought in your entire life?
As I was scrolling through the comments, this comment literally made me lol. Clever :)
@@jackshittle No. It is not clever. The comment is trite at best. How are you all so easily amused?
To everyone not willing to watch the whole thing: he is still making music, just with his old band that has a different name obviously. Thats all.
The basics.
His decision to make it a story duet, AND Kimbra's perfect fitness for that role, made this song memorable for me.
It's the kind of song that makes you stop what you're doing, and just listen.
I still get chills when it reaches her vocal crescendo.
Absolutely agree!
Hello fellow 444er
Tbh her part is what makes it for me
I have so much respect and love for Wally. A new album from him would be amazing, but only on his terms. A friend and I create a bootleg remix of Hearts A Mess. We sent it to Wally. Surprisingly, he replied, liked it, and it ended up on the Mixed Blood album (Wally’s first album to win an ARIA award).
Wow, you made a remix just as a fan project and it ended up on the remix album? That's awesome.
@@k-leb4671 Yep! He ended up sending us the stems, which we tried incorporating, but we ended up mostly keeping things how they were - samples from the full original track. I think we only dropped in a few parts from the new stems.
@@MarcEdwards damn I'd kill for the stems to Heart's a Mess. Good on ya
Awesome.. Surely youve been overthe moon for it.. Truly kind guy as it seems
@@k-leb4671 I should see if I can find them. Hopefully I kept them!
I just read that Wally, his real name, in French is "Gautier". Mind blown
makes more sense if you use the unabbreviated “walter”
One of the many things this video skipped over. Gotye wasn't a stage name. His mother called him that as a child because it was a diminutive of the French version of his real name, which was important because he was actually born in Belgium, not Australia.
I'm French and... What ? Walter is not an abbreviation of Gauthier, neither is Wally. Abbreviations for Gauthier would be... Got ? Maybe ? We don't abbreviate names as much as English speakers.
Then to think that 'Find Wally' is worold famous game. Where's Wally??
@@donjoe2661 it's Waldo, who the hell is Wally
What else is there to do after Prince says he loves your song? That's the roof. There's nowhere to go from there.
7:31 They did Louis Armstrong dirty with that AI voice replacement.
He's already dirty
Yeah that one was way off
@@stupidburp All of them were.
The reality of fame isn't for everyone. Not being able to go anywhere in anonymity, being talked about, insulted, derided, being asked to fly all over the world and see people constantly...
,yes.....being rich and not have to worry about money ever again......its not for everyone
@@sebg2086 The monetary aspect is certainly nice, but you essentially give up your privacy. Jason Russell became famous and had a complete breakdown less than a month later. Paparazzi and the media are merciless.
George Harrison said it best.
Give me the money. You can keep the fame.
So not explained at all for the first 11 minutes and when explained it isnt weird and he didnt disappear ?
Pretty much.
clickbait but most likely they didn't even realise they did it. this is where we're at now
@@aperinich I'm sure they realize it.
With so many average joes trying to make money off RUclips this will naturally be the kind of crap they pump out since they're competing for eyeballs.
@@aperinich agreed
@@aperinich Nah. This is the average RUclips content. Just pick an interesting headline and blabber on for 10 minutes on some looped edit. E.g "Did Elvis REALLY die?" and then start talking about when he was born, talk about the history of his whole family tree and every associate's background and childhood, and then end with "So did Elvis REALLY die? Comment below on your thoughts. Click subscribe if you want to see more videos on Elvis' disappearance."
It's not really surprising at all actually. It's quite common for artists to be turned off completely by the commercial aspects of music. I certainly don't want to compare myself to any successful musician, but back in the day my dream was to just make a comfortable living and NOT be mega famous. In the circles I run in this is not that uncommon. In the end I didn't even quite get to that level, but I can take solace in the certainty that you have never heard of me.
A bit cheeky at the end there, but I am certain these are common sentiments.
Ok can we all just also see that Kimbra also has some releases and albums that needs some attention
Says on her Spotify page that she's ranked #486 in the world out of all artists, with 16mil monthly listeners. She's pretty popular I guess but I feel like I haven't heard about her much before, so it is kind of surprising to see she's so popular on streaming. Good for her
Primal Heart is a top tier pop record for sure
If you haven't explored her collection, you should. I'm fond of Vows, but it's a thing with me and my kids. I met her before a show last year. She is as kind and genuine as Wally seems.
Yes! An excellent musician and a great catalog of interesting albums.
She is fucking awesome!
The world would have so much more creativity if we could figure out how to give everyone permanent housing.
there are so many Aussie artists who make amazing music, that could make all the money in the world, if we play the USA pop game... but sometimes "no" is the choice of sanity
Great video. Being an "unknown" songwriter gives you total freedom over your music, writing only for oneself, no pressure. It also gives you no money.
True I have so much of no money, I don't know how to manage it
@@lucboellinger7733 lolllz
I'm a sound engineer and I met Wally at the last AES conference. Great guy. Myself, a sound engineer friend of mine together with the panel he was on (preserving the electronic music of Louis and Bebe Barron) walked through New York for a while and we landed at a Thai restaurant. I sat next to him and he gave me a piece of his duck, which tasted a lot like chicken. I had never had duck before. My friend and I had a conversation with him that lasted over 2 hours. Can confirm he's very down to earth, knowledgeable and just a kind person.
It really 'starts' at 11:32. ...you are welcome.
And the answer is that he is still making music just not as Gotye.
Thank you. The first 11 minutes of that video was insufferable. I saw Gotye several years ago live and I still think about that show all the time. Several incredible stand-out songs, amazing visuals, and percussion that was out of this world.
Thank you, was looking for this. The claims made in the title and early minutes of this video are even shown to be false within the later part of the video. It's a promo for an AI tool stealing 11 minutes of viewers' lives on the basis of a lie - how depressingly consistent with the whole AI phenomenon.
He didn't want the fame, so we went back to... The Basics.
But, he was writing music and sending it to radio stations. If he didn't want the fame why not just keep it in his bedroom?
@@merfishsandwich691 There's a big difference between being a successful musician and having the level of attention this brought. It's all about how bright that spotlight is, sometimes it's blinding...
fame and having your artwork experienced are two different things.
@@merfishsandwich691 you can see wally himself in an interview shown in this video that the fame became too much, to the point where he can't communicate more personally
@merfishsandwich691
Oh my goodness . You want to share your music with other people, as a musician. Why would you keep music it in a room like you suggest? Fame comes is you are good, and sharing music is vital for a musician.
You share your music , but your mind set of you seek fame or money as your motive, is crap for most artists.
You need to hone your emotional intelligence and understanding of other people/ artists, tis rather shallow 🙌.
You write music to share or live for creating, fame comes sometimes , which can lead to megga fame and riches and why so many crash and burn
The reason it caught fire is because it's the best song Sting never wrote.
i burst out laughing, thank you.
There's a joke in here that I didn't get. Now I want to know.
@@hellopauleit sounds like sting maybe ?
@@hellopaule I think it was more an observation - the song is just very evocative of Sting both in the chorus vocals (people often mistook it for him at the time if hearing it on the radio) and by being catchy mid-tempo pop for grown-ups, with lyrics anatomising a failed relationship. It's not that it sounds similar to any of his tunes, but it's got his sensibility for composition and arranging.
Where else is there to go when Prince says he loves your song before announcing your award win?
Disney World
He has become a collector of old electronic instruments. Some of collection is available at MESS ltd in Melbourne.
Like most middle class musicians.
@@sophiepooks2174 Yes. I believe there is an entire genre of middle class electronic music.
I remember when I first heard the song... I was like, "Did Sting finally made a new album?!"
I thought it was Peter Gabriel
So you're saying that after finding pop success he
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Went back to The Basics.
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wasn't exactly weird now was it
I think it's actually admirable that he didn't want to go out and try to make more music, if he doesn't feel like it. He wasn't bought by big companies and pressured to do things ttheir way and go on world tours etc. He made a lot of money and can live a comfortable life with what he's doing.
Skip to 11:38 if you want to know about the disappearance of Gotye
I love this song. Now that I know the backstory of Gotye, it makes me value and appreciate his songs even more. Thank you for staying true to yourself.
Thanks for making this video. I knew there hadn't been more "Gotye", but didn't realize he was involved in other projects. I'm definitely going to look into The Basics.
Great video. I loved Somebody That I Used to Know and more importantly, it introduced me to Kimbra! But I never knew anything about how the song was constructed or what the artist was up to nowadays.
He made his mark on the music world which is what any artist wants to do. Even if only a one hit wonder he still achieved cultural immortality. Something as simple as a catchy song can become part of someone’s internal life.
Immortality?? Is that a joke? No it won't. It will die and be forgotten. This music sucks ass. Typical shitty catchy tune.
He's hog tied in my shed
Kinky 😉🖤
what kinda shed tho?
you in Greensborough or Montmorency? I'm coming to set him free! 🤣
@@coldacre
Nah mate, I'm in outback Western Australia
@@g6ter1
A Titan
On Wikipedia it says that he did have plans for a 4th album, but then says that Gotye most recently discussed it in 2018.
0:31 still my favorite of his from further back. "hearts a mess" from _like drawing blood_
Thank you for the vid, I had been idly wondering. Your coverage was informative and the visuals were well done 👍
7:47 "Somebody That I Used To Know" literally has the melody of "Baa Baa Black Sheep" in the beginning and I'll never get over how genius that is! 😂❤
That's all I've ever been able to hear!
Not the melody, just the phrasing. The ending of the melody does have descending notes that are similar but it is not "literally" the same melody at all. However, the phrasing is identical.
"literally has the melody", it literally doesn't
Well done... I've been wondering about this guy for so long.
"Somebody That I Used To Know" is one of the best mainstream pop songs that I’ve heard in a long time, and at first I couldn’t figure out where it came from, it’s influences and precursors. Only that there was something familiar about its feel and instrumentation. Then it occurred to me that it’s very similar in some respects to "Cloudbusting" by Kate Bush. Looked it up, and sure enough, Gotye’s heavily influenced by Kate Bush.
Hes just somebody that we used to know now.
Where did you get the clip of his aria acceptance at 6:08? I'd like to watch the full thing
The hook is the intro .The xylophone melody that is ba ba black sheep, this evokes childhood memories . yes he is P Gabriel influenced and this song reeks of PG style , well done him
Second video of yours I've watched and really enjoy your commentary. This is a great story.
I have heard snippets of this piece and always thought it was a Peter Gabriel song, thanks for this insight!
Really well done! Thanks for posting!!
Now he is just somebody that we used to know
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So...what's weird about it?
Luiz Bonfá is Brazilian Portuguese, not French. The z is a hard s sound, and the accent over the a means something.
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I loved the song and did a deep dive on all of his music and his process. It was in constant rotation in my play list. I scored tickets when he came to town, but had to sell them. I sold them to a friend who only knew the one song and liked the venue, ao they figured it would be a good time.
She ended up describing it as one of the best shows she'd ever been to (and she'd been to some incredible shows). I'm still jealous to this day.
I'm glad to hear he's still making music, even if it's not Gotye. I'm glad it didn't totally ruin him, which i was kind of afraid to hear.
Great stuff - thank you for putting this together - new subscriber!
Huh, I didn't know Gotye took up carpentry as a side hobby after recording his smash hit. I mean, these are some nice planks at 0:15! You got lucky to have Gotye do your floors, what a guy!
Didn't quit, he went straight back to The Basics and he'll be back one day
Summary: He didn't quit, he moved back to his other band (The Basics). Minute 11.
Nice documentation. Thank you. 🙏
Fabulous story well told, I knew nothing about the background to this tune.
I swore I wasn't going to sub to any more channels for a while, but, I'm now subscribed.
He didn't have to cut us off...
Great channel! The insight is amazing, I had no idea ❤
He definitely didn't realise how much of a chunk gets taken when you need to sign off on samples on a sample heavy hit, and this was a monster hit. Monster hit means a monster proportion of the money you receive being divvied up to other people, even if it's just a snippet of sound. If it's identifiable it needs to be paid for. He likely didn't care when it was chump change but when it's almost half of what a track brings in it stings. Probably the reason he's switched off adds and returned to a band with instruments.
Not saying he's tight, probably more to do with all the bullshit paperwork and lawyer headaches as much as cash.
Turning off monetization just so that regulations don't take financial advantage of you is slaaay
I feel that so many people strive to be the next big thing, rather than being artists. Like they think once they get to that point, they will levitate from the earth and not have any problems. It is a life long commitment. It's a part of who you are. Not everybody can handle getting huge like that either. Some people just want to jam and make something they love. He didn't care about being a famous person. He just wanted to rock.
Thanks David! I was always curious about Gotye and that specific song.
Despite Somebody that I used to know being his obvious standout single, I think Heart's a Mess is a much better song.
love videos like this! always awesome to learn more about a defining song from my past
Great video, gives me a lot of insight.
i just wanted to say your use of Gotye's music for ambience was excellent. got goosebumps on multiple occasions
The sampling part reminds me a lot of how AI produces art.
Loved this video! Do you think you could do a breakdown on the band Fun.?
Wally / Gotye bought a Ginsman drum machine from me at the time (after Somebody I Used to Know though) 😎
Great video. Well done.
A "rare bird," this Wally.
A song my friend used to like.
Awesome video. Big tip: down mix your dialogue audio to mono! I also heard a couple “plosives”. Your voice is louder in my left ear with earbuds on.
Thanks for talking about this man. Respect to Wally and long live The Basics.
The one thing that immediately got my attention the first time I heard STIUTK was the sound. So incredibly crisp, clear and dynamic! Nothing in the over-produced mainstream music world sounds like that these days.
Mr. Hartley you are so good at this stuff! Thanks for your excellence!
Shit man, this was such a good video. You have a good take on this part of his career, put it succinctly and had meaningful edits throughout the talk, bravo! Also, Prince saying he likes this song in front of everyone was so classy!
Nice documentary, man
The Avalanches
and his other song Hearts a mess...its amazing...he has an amazing voice
Wanna know why music sucks so much these days? Because we haven't gotten anything from GOAT-ye.
Wally is so inspiring! not to mention the videoclips for his songs! which is another layer, amazing! He is such a great sensitive musician! Bronte, Thanks for your time and so on, such great songs!
Great video, thank you for that!
Making Mirrors is superb. I love it so much. I found it in 2024. I'm obsessed.
Bloody good content !!!
Actual answer to "what happened to him" starts at 11:20
I remember playing this song on repeat for hours while doing housework - I used to do that a lot with certain songs I really loved.
As an animator, I loved how Gotye gave animators jobs on his music videos.
thanks for posting and sharing this thumbs
Great vid again
smart man. I'm Australian and did not know about The Basics. Thanks David!
Excellent Video, Thanks
I need him.
Heyy thanks for making this video!! It gives great insights into what inspired this musician to write these kind of songs. I also think he's a very genuine person.
Great story, in the end the question is: Is he happier because of this approach? My guess is that the answer is a big YES!!!!
Great video!
Well Mr Hartley, you’ve gotten my attention. Great video, deserves a sub.
“Baa Black Sheep have you any wool” played on xylophone, as the introduction to the song, shows the genius of Gotye.
He'll be back. Still have Wal's number in my phone. Just a genuinely nice guy
I like the song, even bought the album, which is good. But the best thing it brought me was Kimbra. Two way street, settle down, top of the world, replay, what a musician and what a voice. Never repeating an old trick, always surprising. Art in the true sense of the word.