2/15/24 Literally experienced everything explained at the beginning😂. This made me so happy watching the brilliance displayed with an easy way to reinstall a stupid design. Thank you for making this! And for an appropriate camera angle too! I’d say it wasn’t your first time 😁
I've used Browning BPS shotguns for over 40 years and after trying your technique just now, I can say it's by far the slickest method to re-install the trigger group that I've come across. I've tried about every commercial tool to do this task, and your method beats them all. Thanks...
Well heckers, I do not need my ball peen hammer any more for this installation.Instead of the tape (which is a great idea)I cut the magazine limiter to length and angled in in between the bars tight so it held them in place that way I can use it again if I can ever find it in it;s hiding spot.Sir, good video I am sure it took some time to get it figured out. thank you for your time and great video.Saved me two packs of smokes and little to no stress.
Just bought one and heard about the trigger group war story through pre- purchase research but could not pass up the price. THANK YOU for this video and your ingenuity!
THANKS SO MUCH for making this video. You just saved the day here! This secret really works and it's basically foolproof. Shame on those other disassembly/assembly videos for editing out any mention of how frustrating and difficult this step of reassembly is. Thank you again! 👍👍
FINALLY GOT IT BACK TOGETHER! Thanks to your description of the proper orientation of the stops, and of course how the trigger assembly is supposed to drop in and engage the slots.
I recently decided it was time to clean the BPS 10 gauge after using it a few times while duck hunting this year. Spent 4 hours trying to reassemble the trigger and eventually bent the stop bars (yeah that was a great idea) thinking it might help... Had to order a new pair which were 10 bucks each. Today I once again began trying to keep the bars in place without success. Finally followed your video using tape and the cut up soda can. When I lined everything up I could not believe that it popped in... I was overjoyed to see it actually slid in! Thank you so much for making this video. You saved me a trip to the gunsmith to reassemble the ole shotgun! Cheers!!!
Interesting video. I struggled with my BPS for four hours, then watched this several times. Struggled for another four hours, gave up and went to bed. Got up this morning and wasted another hour. Then took it to my gunsmith. It took him fifteen minutes but he got the cartridge stops and trigger housing in. He said the key to getting the trigger housing in is to slightly move the slide back and forth until the housing slips in. It worked for him.
Oh, my, goodness. save 4 hours eh? lol after disassembly, I had what I read about afterwards happen, I've read literally that "Satan resides within the trigger assembly, waiting for those foolish enough to disassemble it, upon which time the gun will be cursed". Took mine apart, boom, magically the right cartridge stop vanished. No joke. I looked for 2 days. Everywhere. I ordered a new one. struggled for 5.5 hours, understood the stops were the issue. tried all kinds of baloney to get them to sit correctly, to no avail. took a day and a half break. found your video... Ha! so simple, oh jeez. well, I'm gunna go do this and be so darn happy to be done with it. THANK You Sir! fine jib on the video BTW.
unfortunately this method or "trick", did not work for me. I tried more times than I will admit checking and rechecked anything and everything. My BPS is clean and properly lubed, not too much not too little, and yes parts are in the correct order and location. cartridge stops have now both been replaced with new.
I personally never disassembled my bps to that point, but I can see why it earned the reputation of a complicated shotgun, even if there are firearms far more complicated than this one. I'll be sure to remember this trick once I clean it, thanks for your simple and straight to the point video! Also thank you on the behalf of all the people who were struggling with that, im sure they appreciate it. For a first video, you knocked it out of the park!
Excellent video. I ran into the same issue a few days ago. Thanks for taking the time to explain - I figured I was just dumb. Glad to see I'n not the only one.
Brilliant! Thanks for making this video, I haven't detail stripped mine yet but now I'm not worried about having BPS guts strewn across the workbench for a month while I screw around with reassembly. 👍
This video certainly helped Did not need the tricks you showed, brownells video said to bring the action in at 90 degrees which I was not doing and I noticed the front of the assembly had a taper which spreads out bars. Hope this helps everyone
Watched this Video before I disassembled my "new to me" Browning BPS 12Ga and was very thankful for it. The Brownells Video, while good, skips this vital step in reassembly. Instead of an Aluminum Can, I cut two strips of Plastic from a small Soda Bottle and it worked the same. Thanks!
I was stuck big time, 1st BPS and it’s brand new. Shot a few rounds of 3 different loads today.. After the maker tip I was re-assembled. Watched the rest of the video anyway…. as I already had 1 thing to learn today. The shims were not necessary in my case. Thanks a million for the tip. Great first video , Fella.
Good for you and thanks so much. Such great detail and camera work for your first video. Nice that most people would have and be able to make the tools needed themselves.
I was struggling with this problem for a couple of days. You solved both my issues. The bars and the carrier. I was trying everything to get that carrier to open up.
Genius! Your video production is also excellent. Lighting, sound, camera position, shot order; you done good. Looking forward to more from your channel.
Good job. That top retainer pin with the sleeve is a real bear to get back together. Thank goodness for the Brownell’s video. I was ready to throw the gun out the window.
I've owned four different BPS pump guns. For years, I used only BPS guns for skeet tournaments and thus put them to heavy use in all weather and thus oftern pulled the triggers. And I've tried lots of methods and systems for reinstalling those triggers, including the infamous toothpick trick. This week, I tried Ggawgs' approach to the task. My set up did not look as steady and locked in as his, but it still worked on the first try. I like it.
This video worked great for me. After an hour or more of frustration I had it together in minutes with your guidance! But I did cut my thumb on the aluminum can guides when I pulled them out of the receiver. Lol!
Great explanation and fix. I’ve struggled putting mine back together every time I clean it. Thank God that’s only once a year after the season is over, more if I get caught in the rain.
This is a great explanation of a very difficult problem. I will note that on a 28 gauge the pin for the trigger group on mine is reversed so that the flat is on top. it set too low until I changed that. BLUF: if you take the trigger our at the range you will never get back in until you work on this for hours. The tolerances are very close on the 28.
And John M. Browning invented this design? Holy Cow....I wonder how HE would have put it back together? Great explanation and thanks....was thinking of buying a BPS, so this may prove useful to me in the future....thanks again.
They are great shotguns, so don't let this cleaning issue scare you from getting one. You can get used ones for great prices. I'm often tempted to pick them up when I see a good deal, but I really don't need any more.
@@ggawgs1420 Thank you sir, yes, I was thinking of trying to standardize my "fleet" as it were and get a BPS 10 gauge as I do a lot of waterfowl hunting and a BPS 20 for everything else....
Nice explanation, when I took it apart and started struggling with the reassembly I was hoping someone had a good video on how to reassemble it, you definitely fit that need. Thanks!
I’ve had bps since I was 16 I learned from my brother to reassemble it because he had one as well by the years goes by quickly learned how to reassemble my trigger fast and easy way now that I’m 28 still love the bps and I recently just bought 20 gauge Weatherby element max 5
@@ggawgs1420 I’m still struggling with it, I used a coke can an it goes 90% of the way and I can’t pull out the 2 tabs without pulling the assembly back off
Although this hasn't yet worked for me, I did learn that I can see the interaction between parts pretty well by removing the buttstock, I just need to find a way to get better lighting in there to get rid of any guessing on whats happening. from what I can see, these aluminum can strips are not strong enough to guide the new or old stops out of the way. With buttstock off, I may try a large set of tweezers, like very large(18" long) and see if those or maybe scissors might work if this is indeed the problem I'm having.
By coincidence I stripped mine today to re-blue it all, after I had it apart I put it back together just to make sure I could, it's definitely fiddly, but I did it, this would have made it easier....I've booked marked this ready for the rebuild after it's blued...
Muy buen video amigo nomas te falto mencionar algo que a mi me paso, la guia qué entra con la pieza grande esa se gira y si no te das cuenta entra en otra posición y jamás vas a poder meter tu pieza 😂 a mi me paso
What happens if you put the gun back together and pull the bolt back and the shell stoppers don't come down? I've had this problem not sure if they are bent or if I've put the points in the wrong spot
This is easy peasy if the hammer pin is in the correct position. Make sure the flat faces the correct way and fits like a glove, if the pin is 180 degrees, the trigger group will not go back in. Period. Easy gun to disassemble and reassemble if you look at the hammer pin after the trigger group is removed.
Very creative, I took mine apart a few days ago, and the problem I had was removing the bolt and bolt slide. not totally sure why it wouldn't just fall out like it use to. Put some clp on it and it eventually came out after wresting for 5 minutes. Any idea as to why?
I got my BPS put back together but my forearm won’t slide back into place after I put the trigger in. Is it because I don’t have the trigger lined up properly, also that lever pops out externally easily on my BPS as well.
Hmm, hard to say for sure without seeing it. Is it a 12 gauge? My gut tells me it's probably not the trigger group causing the problem. Could be that one of the stop bars isn't seated correctly. Or the bolt assembly isn't in there correctly??? I would pull the trigger out again, take the stop bars out, put the trigger back in and try it. If it works then, it's the stop bars, if not you'll have to dig deeper. Also make sure the hammer is down. I've never tried putting one together with the hammer up(position after the trigger is pulled) but I've read that can mess things up. So that's a possibility.
You probably should watch and follow the Brownells videos on disassembly, cleaning, lubrication and reassembly. Once you get to the trigger group reassembly, watch this video. This video is the final step in the process.
I hate this. If you need to do all this for a shotgun, then it’s not worth. Absolutely absurd how hard it is to get a trigger group in a gun. Easily the hardest gun to reassemble in my life
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2/15/24 Literally experienced everything explained at the beginning😂. This made me so happy watching the brilliance displayed with an easy way to reinstall a stupid design. Thank you for making this! And for an appropriate camera angle too! I’d say it wasn’t your first time 😁
I've used Browning BPS shotguns for over 40 years and after trying your technique just now, I can say it's by far the slickest method to re-install the trigger group that I've come across. I've tried about every commercial tool to do this task, and your method beats them all. Thanks...
That's great to hear. Thanks Jon!
Grate idea. Thank you so much for this video. I gust purchased my first BPS it is definitely the best BPS trigger install on RUclips👍👍👍👍
Excellent content, lighting, and sound. A video less than 10 minutes to save one hours of frustration. Thank you.
You're welcome. Glad it helped.
Awesome! I've owned a BPS for 50yrs. You made that so Easy! Thank you for your ingenuity and sharing!
Well heckers, I do not need my ball peen hammer any more for this installation.Instead of the tape (which is a great idea)I cut the magazine limiter to length and angled in in between the bars tight so it held them in place that way I can use it again if I can ever find it in it;s hiding spot.Sir, good video I am sure it took some time to get it figured out. thank you for your time and great video.Saved me two packs of smokes and little to no stress.
Just bought one and heard about the trigger group war story through pre- purchase research but could not pass up the price. THANK YOU for this video and your ingenuity!
You are welcome. Enjoy your BPS!
The best BPS trigger install on RUclips, thanks you for this great advice.
You're welcome
Thank you Thank you. I have been messing with my bps trigger for about 4 hrs. I am going to use your trick. Thank you.
You're welcome!
THANKS SO MUCH for making this video. You just saved the day here! This secret really works and it's basically foolproof.
Shame on those other disassembly/assembly videos for editing out any mention of how frustrating and difficult this step of reassembly is.
Thank you again! 👍👍
You are welcome! Glad it helped
Absolutely works! I've battled the action bars on BPS's all my life. Take the time to do this fix and it works like a dream!!!!!
FINALLY GOT IT BACK TOGETHER! Thanks to your description of the proper orientation of the stops, and of course how the trigger assembly is supposed to drop in and engage the slots.
Good deal!
I recently decided it was time to clean the BPS 10 gauge after using it a few times while duck hunting this year. Spent 4 hours trying to reassemble the trigger and eventually bent the stop bars (yeah that was a great idea) thinking it might help... Had to order a new pair which were 10 bucks each. Today I once again began trying to keep the bars in place without success. Finally followed your video using tape and the cut up soda can. When I lined everything up I could not believe that it popped in... I was overjoyed to see it actually slid in! Thank you so much for making this video. You saved me a trip to the gunsmith to reassemble the ole shotgun! Cheers!!!
Bought a BPS last week. Thanks for this video, it made a huge difference in reassembly, super easy.
You're welcome. Glad it helped.
Thanks so much for this tip. I just struggled for 45 minutes then magically it fit in. Now I know why.
Man I appreciate this!!!! Fought the BPS 12 for no joke 2 days at the exact trigger group install.
Thanks again
You are welcome!
Interesting video. I struggled with my BPS for four hours, then watched this several times. Struggled for another four hours, gave up and went to bed. Got up this morning and wasted another hour. Then took it to my gunsmith. It took him fifteen minutes but he got the cartridge stops and trigger housing in. He said the key to getting the trigger housing in is to slightly move the slide back and forth until the housing slips in. It worked for him.
WOW!!!! I ain't a dummy, but I sure needed your help getting my BPS back together. Your technique worked like a charm. Thanks a bunch!
Oh, my, goodness. save 4 hours eh? lol after disassembly, I had what I read about afterwards happen, I've read literally that "Satan resides within the trigger assembly, waiting for those foolish enough to disassemble it, upon which time the gun will be cursed". Took mine apart, boom, magically the right cartridge stop vanished. No joke. I looked for 2 days. Everywhere. I ordered a new one. struggled for 5.5 hours, understood the stops were the issue. tried all kinds of baloney to get them to sit correctly, to no avail.
took a day and a half break. found your video... Ha! so simple, oh jeez. well, I'm gunna go do this and be so darn happy to be done with it.
THANK You Sir! fine jib on the video BTW.
unfortunately this method or "trick", did not work for me. I tried more times than I will admit checking and rechecked anything and everything. My BPS is clean and properly lubed, not too much not too little, and yes parts are in the correct order and location. cartridge stops have now both been replaced with new.
Nice video ! Clear and to the point. I just spent 45 minutes and about 12 attempts to get mine in. Next time, I’m ready.
I personally never disassembled my bps to that point, but I can see why it earned the reputation of a complicated shotgun, even if there are firearms far more complicated than this one. I'll be sure to remember this trick once I clean it, thanks for your simple and straight to the point video! Also thank you on the behalf of all the people who were struggling with that, im sure they appreciate it. For a first video, you knocked it out of the park!
Thanks for this video.
I was wondering why I always took my BPS to the gunsmith... Great detailed video👍🏻
You're welcome
Excellent video. I ran into the same issue a few days ago. Thanks for taking the time to explain - I figured I was just dumb. Glad to see I'n not the only one.
Excellent video Sir glad I found it tomorrow I'm cleaning my bps for the first time Thank you
You are welcome. Good luck!
Brilliant! Thanks for making this video, I haven't detail stripped mine yet but now I'm not worried about having BPS guts strewn across the workbench for a month while I screw around with reassembly. 👍
Thanks, only spent 1 hour b4 finding your video. Lifesaver for sure
Glad it helped.
This video certainly helped
Did not need the tricks you showed, brownells video said to bring the action in at 90 degrees which I was not doing and I noticed the front of the assembly had a taper which spreads out bars. Hope this helps everyone
Watched this Video before I disassembled my "new to me" Browning BPS 12Ga and was very thankful for it. The Brownells Video, while good, skips this vital step in reassembly. Instead of an Aluminum Can, I cut two strips of Plastic from a small Soda Bottle and it worked the same. Thanks!
I was stuck big time, 1st BPS and it’s brand new. Shot a few rounds of 3 different loads today.. After the maker tip I was re-assembled. Watched the rest of the video anyway…. as I already had 1 thing to learn today. The shims were not necessary in my case. Thanks a million for the tip. Great first video , Fella.
Thank you so much. Brilliant! One key alignment detail you didn’t mention…make sure the flats on the trigger pins are facing down…toward the ground.
Good for you and thanks so much. Such great detail and camera work for your first video. Nice that most people would have and be able to make the tools needed themselves.
Saved me so much frustration-very clever, thank you!
You're welcome!
I was struggling with this problem for a couple of days. You solved both my issues. The bars and the carrier. I was trying everything to get that carrier to open up.
Glad it helped!
Genius!
Your video production is also excellent. Lighting, sound, camera position, shot order; you done good. Looking forward to more from your channel.
Thanks. Glad it was helpful.
You are really smart!!! Back together in a flash after an hour of cursing. Thank you for the video!!!
Good job. That top retainer pin with the sleeve is a real bear to get back together. Thank goodness for the Brownell’s video. I was ready to throw the gun out the window.
Used the sharpie trick then used dental pick to pull those bars apart slightly. Thanks!
Thanks! I have a 2016 Trap model that I've been afraid to take apart to clean. Your video gave me the confidence to tackle the job.
I've owned four different BPS pump guns. For years, I used only BPS guns for skeet tournaments and thus put them to heavy use in all weather and thus oftern pulled the triggers. And I've tried lots of methods and systems for reinstalling those triggers, including the infamous toothpick trick. This week, I tried Ggawgs' approach to the task. My set up did not look as steady and locked in as his, but it still worked on the first try. I like it.
Glad it worked for you!
This video worked great for me. After an hour or more of frustration I had it together in minutes with your guidance! But I did cut my thumb on the aluminum can guides when I pulled them out of the receiver. Lol!
Glad it helped. Sorry about your thumb. :)
Great explanation and fix. I’ve struggled putting mine back together every time I clean it. Thank God that’s only once a year after the season is over, more if I get caught in the rain.
This is a great explanation of a very difficult problem. I will note that on a 28 gauge the pin for the trigger group on mine is reversed so that the flat is on top. it set too low until I changed that. BLUF: if you take the trigger our at the range you will never get back in until you work on this for hours. The tolerances are very close on the 28.
And John M. Browning invented this design? Holy Cow....I wonder how HE would have put it back together? Great explanation and thanks....was thinking of buying a BPS, so this may prove useful to me in the future....thanks again.
They are great shotguns, so don't let this cleaning issue scare you from getting one. You can get used ones for great prices. I'm often tempted to pick them up when I see a good deal, but I really don't need any more.
@@ggawgs1420 Thank you sir, yes, I was thinking of trying to standardize my "fleet" as it were and get a BPS 10 gauge as I do a lot of waterfowl hunting and a BPS 20 for everything else....
Nice explanation, when I took it apart and started struggling with the reassembly I was hoping someone had a good video on how to reassemble it, you definitely fit that need. Thanks!
Glad it was useful for you!
Yep, that worked perfectly! Great idea and video, thanks!
Great video, thanks for making it. Very creative solution to a nasty problem
Awesome first video sir. Much appreciated.
Thank you for putting this up. this is just what I needed!
You're welcome. Glad it helped.
Excellent problem solving! And thanks for being so helpful by sharing!!
You just saved my life. Thanks for explaining this well
Thank you so much 100 percent better than the browning video.
Glad it helped!
Dude! This is a service to humanity or at least to BPS owners like me 😂 Thanks !
Ha! You are welcome. Glad it helped!
Your video saved me, smart man, thanks.
Glad it helped!
I wish I had found this video last week. Thanks
Great job of explaining that
It did help. Thx. Great 1st video
I’ve had bps since I was 16 I learned from my brother to reassemble it because he had one as well by the years goes by quickly learned how to reassemble my trigger fast and easy way now that I’m 28 still love the bps and I recently just bought 20 gauge Weatherby element max 5
Good job brother!!! THANK YOU it helped alot.
Thank you God!! Someone please send this to Brownells to add to the video series.
Ha, glad you liked it!
It's been 2 weeks not being able to install the trigger guard. I tried the magnet trick. With no luck. Thank you for making this video 👍
Master Yoda level gun-jitsu here. Bravo
Excellent helpful video.
Thank you very much! It was a great help!!
What a lifesaver! Thank you!
You're welcome. Glad it helped
I’m going to give it a try now! Thanks!
Good luck. let me know if it works
@@ggawgs1420 I’m still struggling with it, I used a coke can an it goes 90% of the way and I can’t pull out the 2 tabs without pulling the assembly back off
I owe you a case of beer. Thanks a million
Glad it helped!
Many thanks for this. Are the band aids on your thumbs from beating on this Browning?
Yeah, something like that!
Although this hasn't yet worked for me, I did learn that I can see the interaction between parts pretty well by removing the buttstock, I just need to find a way to get better lighting in there to get rid of any guessing on whats happening. from what I can see, these aluminum can strips are not strong enough to guide the new or old stops out of the way. With buttstock off, I may try a large set of tweezers, like very large(18" long) and see if those or maybe scissors might work if this is indeed the problem I'm having.
big thanks from Russia!
Wow that is outstanding. Only trick is not to cut myself up with the aluminum strips 😂
Great job on the video!
Thanks!
By coincidence I stripped mine today to re-blue it all, after I had it apart I put it back together just to make sure I could, it's definitely fiddly, but I did it, this would have made it easier....I've booked marked this ready for the rebuild after it's blued...
Brilliant!!
Great video! Thanks for this tip it helped a lot.
Great, it’s helpful! Thx
Great job! Thanks!
Muy buen video amigo nomas te falto mencionar algo que a mi me paso, la guia qué entra con la pieza grande esa se gira y si no te das cuenta entra en otra posición y jamás vas a poder meter tu pieza 😂 a mi me paso
Thank you!!!
What happens if you put the gun back together and pull the bolt back and the shell stoppers don't come down? I've had this problem not sure if they are bent or if I've put the points in the wrong spot
Wish I would’ve found this video before I broke my trigger guard with a hammer 😅
Well done mate, been a pain
you sir are a fu***** legend.... you deserve a medal or a holiday named after you or at least a F cookie ... welll done I applaud you
Well, I don't know about all of that, but glad it was useful for you.
Sweet!
Wow, thank you so much....
Extent video thanks
BRAVO!!
Thank you!
THANK YOU SO MUCH 😮😅😊
This is easy peasy if the hammer pin is in the correct position. Make sure the flat faces the correct way and fits like a glove, if the pin is 180 degrees, the trigger group will not go back in. Period. Easy gun to disassemble and reassemble if you look at the hammer pin after the trigger group is removed.
Thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!👍
You are welcome.
Very creative, I took mine apart a few days ago, and the problem I had was removing the bolt and bolt slide. not totally sure why it wouldn't just fall out like it use to. Put some clp on it and it eventually came out after wresting for 5 minutes. Any idea as to why?
Sorry, not sure what's going on there. They have always come out easily for me.
I have been watching your informative video and highly enjoyed it. Now for some reason when i pull the trigger nothing happens. Any suggestions?
Hard to say without looking at it. You may have to take it apart again and check everything over.
@@ggawgs1420 I think I've resolved it the carriage bolt not going far enough in the forward position in order to release the spring for the trigger
@@ggawgs1420 just wanted you to know..... that was the problem. Carriage bolt. Thanks..
@@howardcissell6592 Glad you got it fixed!
thanks, the light went on for me...the brownells vieos just skipped over this
I love my BPS, but man an 870 sure is a heck of a lot easier to take down and reassemble
great video 😊
On my 870 i have to remove the mag spring. To remove the bar tension, off of the trigger group. Would that make it easier on the bps?
It wouldn't make a difference on the BPS. The magazine follower doesn't contact the cartridge stop bars.
@@ggawgs1420 it's a fun little pump, from the ones I have had a chance to try.
I got my BPS put back together but my forearm won’t slide back into place after I put the trigger in. Is it because I don’t have the trigger lined up properly, also that lever pops out externally easily on my BPS as well.
Hmm, hard to say for sure without seeing it. Is it a 12 gauge? My gut tells me it's probably not the trigger group causing the problem. Could be that one of the stop bars isn't seated correctly. Or the bolt assembly isn't in there correctly??? I would pull the trigger out again, take the stop bars out, put the trigger back in and try it. If it works then, it's the stop bars, if not you'll have to dig deeper. Also make sure the hammer is down. I've never tried putting one together with the hammer up(position after the trigger is pulled) but I've read that can mess things up. So that's a possibility.
@@ggawgs1420 sorry I just saw your comment, but thanks for the advice. It ending up being one of the stop bars like you said.
Used a Sharpie to mark then used a putty knife.
Oh lord I'm stuck on even getting the other stuff in 😒
You probably should watch and follow the Brownells videos on disassembly, cleaning, lubrication and reassembly. Once you get to the trigger group reassembly, watch this video. This video is the final step in the process.
I hate this. If you need to do all this for a shotgun, then it’s not worth. Absolutely absurd how hard it is to get a trigger group in a gun. Easily the hardest gun to reassemble in my life
Thank you!!!