Never quit previous job before a written contract with the next job. If you get the contract, that company finna pay you regardless if you work there frfr
Im currently in that spot. They told me i lack confidence and need more experince in stressful situations. Like never had that problem and my job is just stress on top of stress but ok. Still see it posted online months later haha
Just happened to me! I applied to be a purchasing manager at a different location but same company. I'm currently a purchasing specialist, but feel like I'm ready for the managerial part of it all. Went through 3 interviews, talked to a bunch of people, and the GM seemed to really like me. Never heard back from them, job listing went away on the internal job site so obviously I didn't get the job. No big deal. Fast forward 2 months later and guess what job just became available again?? Lmao.
I think an undercover audit will solve loads of these problems if they be able to do this and get tax benifits it's literally fraud... Seen my fare share of these tactics in Europe and I'm just a chef 😅
I am in Canada they also do it not just for tax breaks but for the ability to say the job is not being fulfilled can you import more labor. This creates other types of scams
Someone please help me understand how they work this. Is this US tax breaks? Also for Canada if you have more workers saying I don't have a job but companies ask for more workers, how are they getting away with it?
@@eryndelosreyes8224they pretend that these people don't want to work 😂 Foreign labor is cheaper because in some countries the government even helps the companies pay the salary up to a degree or give them a reduction in their taxes... Or both. So they make extra sure that their positions get filled with the minimum possible of natives. I already heard someone in the construction industry talk about it, I was quite shocked and disgusted.
So yeah, no, if you see a field filled to the brim with foreigners it might not be this particular field has a hard time rectruiting... They probably fake it to hell.
@@gmork1090 in other words the incentivations without actual results should disapear. don't offer money for companies say they're hiring .. offer money for companies who ACTUALLY employ more people. and make compensation payments to employees who pick up the slag for long durations of time an expensive mandatory thing
this should be a crime. A lot of people are losing their sanity in search for a job. They work hard to the interviews and tests. My brother had to do UX researches, interviewed a lot of people, gave all the information and analysis up for the recruiters. He did an amazing work for free, just for the recruiters to not give the position for him. It breaks his mental health. These companies are fucking with us. This SHOULD BE A CRIME.
The moment a company asks you to do actual work for free to prove you are capable of doing the work, you got to walk away because that is a huge red flag.
I had an interview where they basically asked me to solve their project. If you can get someone to implement stuff for you and then reject them, why not? 😂 Of course, I left that part empty - but, it's because I genuinely didn't know. Looking back, probably I'd have done the same even if I did know.
This is why it's important to ask pertinent questions during the phone screen and first round interview. People often focus too much on convincing the employer they're right for the role, instead of treating it as a mutual interview. You need to vet them before you even speak. Look at reviews, financials, salary info and really analyze the job description and learn what key phrases mean i.e. "fast paced" = under staffed, "able to meet tight deadlines" = Overworked and usually unreasonable expectations. No salary listed = Underpaid and not a transparent environment. Always ask why the role is open and what average tenure is. All new people? They can't retain good talent. Everyone there for 20+ yrs? Good culture but may be resistant to modern processes. Learn what's not being said too. And don't be afraid to say no and turn down a role that doesn't seem like a good fit. If it gives you a bad feeling during the interview, how do you think it's going to be once you're on the inside? Any questions lol
Job application checklist: Apply for job - Easy enough, obvious enough. Resume - Fair enough. Cover letter - Umm... What? Why? You know what, fine, never mind. Fine. "Sign up to our website" - THEN WHY ARE YOU ADVERTISING ON SEEK/INDEE--- no, no, never mind. Fine. FINE. ... "Fill out this questionnaire that is basically just a repeat of your resume" "Do this test and that test" "Research the company" "Audit the company" "Be available all day every day hoping for a phone call." "Maybe get lucky, get an interview. Spend time and money getting to interview. Do unpaid work for interview. Answer questions that are either stupid and/or have the expectation of some bullshit answer, "why do you want to work here?" "Never hear back about the interview." Now do that 1000s of times. Yup, totally reasonable advice to add more effort to the part of the individual applying, rather than the organization.
Oh and by the way all those questions we asked in the interviews were real because we needed your expertise for free. Same goes for the assessment center tasks which was just stuff which needed to get done but for which we never intended to hire someone. And yeah those clients you called weren't staged either but real clients which were unsatisfied with our performance and so we thought it would be funny to see how you handle them in the application process. So considering how qualified you are please reapply when we repost that job as we got a few more to dos...
@@benjaminallen6469happened to my sister. They said it was between her and another candidate, made her design an entire section of their website, and after she finished and handed it over, she never heard back from them.
@@AdriansArt thanks. Yeah it sucked. The job and pay were too good to be true. I suspected it going in but they were paying 6 figures. I learned my lesson though that's for sure
Yup! That's exactly the reason why the government will never investigate the frauds. It makes their metrics look too dang good. It's a shame that they care more about a fake number on a report than they do about the actual citizens they're supposed to be protecting. It's malpractice of the highest order. Maybe that's what happens when all education is centered around GPAs and test results and not actual reasoning ability. When those kids grow up and get jobs, they just manipulate information to get the results they need to look successful according to a report instead of being willing and able to problem-solve. (But that's a whole other can of worms...)
Covid - millions of jobs End of covid + millions of jobs Democrats: look we fixed the economy :D Meanwhile americans look like 90s african commericals for a dollar a day could save a life
"Our company is highly competitive where hundreds of thousands of people applied and only a few get employed!" Sure is easy to say that when you have ghost jobs opening for years, and the few people who were accepted is through nepotism.
Next time I’m resigning after I start the next job. Pto is pto, maybe I’m in Hawaii, and maybe I’ve already been working somewhere else for a week and a half.
Also happens when you apply to a job, never hear a word, but get hired elsewhere. A year passes and they call you and I'm thinking to myself "you didn't called back then when I was close to starve and lose my house".
They want you to follow-up with them to see if you might potentially get or have already gotten the job. It ranges by industry, but call back roughly once a week after an in-person interview to speak directly with the interviewer or human resources or someone with a board chair. This "demonstrates your persistence" to them, but really inflates their tiny little egos, reminds them of your name, and maybe gains a bit of pity.
That's the real ticker. They want a collection of potential candidates for when they actually need someone. Which shoots them in the foot, because by the time they come calling you already hate the company and moved waaaaay on
@@aria5614 why is job searching so eerily similar to dating? "demonstrate persistence" "collection of potential candidates". I swear if I didn't know any better I would think you guys are talking about some red pill short video.
Got through all the interviews, had an offer in hand, was going to start that Monday, and then they pulled the job (probably not actually a ghost job, but might as well have been). Like, how are we not holding employers responsible for any of this?
For that, file a department of labor complaint. There are circumstances where that's actually illegal. Also make sure to file for unemployment against them. depending on how close they pulled it, you might count as an employee and their insurance cost will go up.
@Cybermaul sure, but the company would have to fight about it. Many don't if they have you in their systems. Also they'd have to explain why the person shouldn't get unemployment and that would enhance the department of labor claim about the contract violation.
@@CybermaulNO! Stop spreading lies. Unemployment is insurance you paid from your past paychecks. As long as you've been working for the past year, 18 months, you have the eligibility to get it regardless of the employer.. just have proof of your acceptance letter and date start and prove you were jibbed. Have no job to go back to. This new employer could be reported as scammer/scam company.
When they have you taking a personality test and questionairre that lasts one hour for an entry level position in a retail store. If they are making it that difficult, there is no job on the other end.
Personal favorite is when they make you spend an hour applying just to send an automated rejection notice one minute later. Or better yet, the application website is broken and your query didn't even go through.
I was about to get upset when I recognized the original creator of the audio, but then noticed that you credited him. Glad to see that. I hate when other "content creators" blatantly steal others' content and pass it off as their own. So thank you for giving him credit. He is awesome and makes great content.
There is that problem on the flip side too. The few real jobs out there will get filled by someone who is just using it for a couple weeks so they can keep getting unemployment.
@@Arbidarb That sounds like a load of BS. If that's your experience, have a deep look in the mirror and a long, hard think WHY none of your new hires stay beyond 2 weeks. (Hint: "so they could collect unemployment" is unlikely to be the correct answer.)
This is me since April. Companies keep putting ads on sites, saying they either don't need anyone anymore, or that I got rejected, then the next week a new copy of the exact same ad is put online. I find it highly improbable that nobody is qualified for entry level min-wage jobs, so either this is, as stated, a scam, or their employees just keep on quiting cause the work conditions are terrible. I'm so tired of it all at this point. When I had a job, it ran my health into the ground, and now that I don't have a job, the lack of it is running my health into the ground...
It's times like this, when I think Earth might be The 0th Circle of Hell and demons study us for inspiration on how to punish us further down the line.
@@gregbasore2108check out Kult. Earth is a prison and Hell is Death-Row for bodhivissim. The good news is, "earth" is dissolving, we are escaping, and God bailed; cuz he don't wanna deal with it.
_We_ didn't do shit. _Rich assholes_ have made a conscious decision, over and over again, to trample anyone and everyone to squeeze out just a little bit more money. The common man is not responsible for the moral degeneracy of the rich.
Reminds me of the time I got interviewed for a position, was told I was a "shoe-in for the position", given a full tour of the facility wherein I was told which locker would be mine, where to clock-in, and a bunch of details about the breakroom that would only be relevant if I worked there, all of which further insinuated I'd be getting the job, then was shown to the door and told to look forward to an email with details about starting date and paperwork that needed to be done to complete the hiring process, only to go home thinking I was hired and then NEVER HEAR BACK from them again. I tried calling them after 2 weeks thinking they must be tied up in some red tape BS or perhaps there was something more I needed to do, only to be put on hold and then told to call back later. I tried a few more days later and got nothing. Finally, after 3 months (and long after I had already realized that they OBVIOUSLY weren't hiring me), I got a generic email with a copy-pasted message about how they had "chosen to go with another candidate." I was stunned.
Tried to find a job for over a year & encountered SO much of this I was beginning to wonder if there weRE ANY real job listings. I applied to everything from office managers to claims processing to dishwasher at a steakhouse. I finally managed to get a job recently and it’s part-time but it’s with a great group of people at a smaller employer. Every large scale employer I applied to wasted my time endlessly submitting things and interviewing.
Glass Door should have a 'look who's running fake ghost job ads, avoid these companies like the plague' department, that is if they don't already have one. These businesses need to be exposed, shamed, and boycotted.
Madonna singing her famous hit Ghostjob in the background: "You're none that I can trust Facing the darkest days Economy ran away And we're not gonna hire, we're not gonna hire Ahhhhhh, ahhhhh I know you're scared tonight Ahhhhhh, ahhhhh You'll never find a job"
Idaho 25-2108 (1868). "Stallions not permitted to run at large. The owner of any stallion over the age of eighteen (18) months must not allow the same to run at large, 𝘂𝗻𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗸𝗲𝘁 𝗰𝗮𝘀𝗵 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲 𝗼𝗳 $𝟮𝟱𝟬, 𝗼𝗿 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲, and is at such value assessed." Laws for thee, not for me.
Literally been my experience job hunting. I keep making it to final interviews to either get denied because: hiring freeze, not enough experience/too young. I had one company that tracked to interview me and had said they loved me pull the hiring freeze thing. I had another have multiple people at the canopy say they love me and I’m perfect only for the big boss to immediately cut the final interview short because I was too young - and that one I had to get FIVE people take a long reference survey and took lots of time off work interviewing. :(
Too young? I'm pretty sure that's an illegal reason not to hire you unless you're under the legal working age. You may need to look deeper into that. Who knows? You may be able to get paid from them without working for them at all. Good luck!
@@vengefulbeautythere is no law to discriminate against young people. Only old people. As long as they don't say you're too old, it's perfectly legal. Sadly
@vengefulbeauty you can look it up. It's not illegal to discriminate against someone for being young. Otherwise companies couldn't have requirements that specified years of experience. That discriminates against the young. They'd have to specify the actual skills you needed instead.
people keep commenting “this should be illegal” “this should be illegal” dearies it IS illegal it’s called FRAUD the government just isn’t punishing it the irs already knows whether or not a company’s workforce has actually grown and is retraining workers but for some reason the irs is offering incentives based on “good behavior” rather than it being based on actual RESULTS based on numbers, like on the number of actual employees on the company payrolls
Yep I notice this every time the fiscal year approaches the end. All the positions we got approved to start hiring for, but could not get approved to send offers to any candidates for, get closed. Then about 3 months later they get reposted, about 4-6 months after that we’re told to start hiring, and then when we find people the ability to send an offer gets put on delay again. This tends to turn into what we call finding a warm body hire…the moment we get approved to hire we get 4-5 resumes and within a week we pick one; even if they are horrible, because if any time passes they tend to start the cycle again.
This even happens at the retail level, though less hoops. As long as they have that stack of resumes in the office, it doesn't matter how many of our hopes they crush. -_-
Best part is not being hired for such a long time makes the interviewers question that aspect as well. The longer you search for a job, the less your chances are of getting one.
This is exactly why I started doing the bare minimum with online applications. If you are serious, and want to see if I'll be a good fit, then invite me into the office, shake my hand, look me in the eye, and have ma conversation with me.
Go provide value until you're no longer a liability or a deficit, until thats the case you can negociate claim to your mothers milk. Think about repaying dividences to your mother 🎉@@FerociousSniper
It's completely impractical and unworkable as an actual idea, but I am 100% with you in spirit! I'd settle for them getting charged every time they do this!
I've heard some companies will assign "mock" projects as part of an interview process, which basically requires several candidates perform free work for the chance at the job. Then the job offer mysteriously evaoprates.
Mushroom: I mean, I not even sure payroll exists or HR. We just give our janitor a sandwich to put on a suit and act like he knows what he's doing. The only English phase we taught him is, "I'll look into it."
Finally the fish got talkin part 😂 Its really hard to find a job these days.. I feel you birdie (bro can't buy tv, house, now bro even dont have a job)
Furthermore, as this is one of the positions which we actually do need to fill eventually. We will be using this process to show that we are "unable" to find a domestic hire and will instead hire a foreign worker for well below market rate into what is basically indentured servitude.
Literally what happened to me. I was told I was the ONLY person who had the license they required and I never heard back from them. They said they went on personality base rather than education and background… despite me being the only qualified one who was trained before the job 😅
A full time job applying for jobs to get a job is so fucking relatable… I hate wasting my time for two weeks of interviews just to get told they decided to go with someone else… only to post the same damn job a day later
@mrgreen Check your state laws, in a lot of them this is legal and you don't have to tell them! Texas is a one-party recording state, which let me record and figure out my old boss was gaslighting me about work she was giving me. I thought I was losing my mind.
They do this in order to justify their HR budgets and prove to the government they're looking to meet certain diversity quotas (for the tax incentives). At my old job we interviewed for a year for a position we filled internally and KEPT interviewing for almost a year after the position was filled. 2 years of interviewing knowing none of them were getting hired. HR needed to look busy.
America really needs to design its regulations and laws around the idea that jackass corporations will take advantage of it. We write things like the corps are daddy's perfect angel who would never be deceitful never.
@priscillajimenez27 Back in the 80s he spearheaded on giving more tax incentives and going back on regulations because of his "trickle down economics", where money would go down from incentives owners and therefore workers. A stupid concept.
@@JimmyJojoshabadooYep, exactly this. Furthermore, we have Jerry Falwell and Paul Weyrich to thank for that. They formed the Moral Majority-a movement that created the Religious Right and set us back 40 years just so they could _get tax breaks on their churches._ Getting Reagan in office was their plan as well. Literally, two people responsible for the entire state of the world today. Before they came along, we actually had progressive Republicans. But yeah, think about everything the GOP has done and you can trace it back to those two. I highly recommend the book _The Power Worshippers,_ by Katherine Stewart. It talks all about this stuff.
This. Every regulation needs an economist to step in and tell them how it's going to go. Instead the economists are working for the lobbyists who draft the legislation and then the politicians are paid on how to vote on it.
Never quit before you start a new job. Don't bother giving your old job two weeks. Take a day or two off and work the first couple days for the other company to prove it's real, and then resign. If your old job cries about it, just tell them to blame their fellow companies for the millions of scam jobs that are indistinguishable from real ones.
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One of my professors was an interviewer and one of her jobs was to make interviews difficult enough for nobody to pass them specifically to keep those positions open and never lose those sweet tax benefits
Yeah, companies oftentimes resort to bending the law quite a lot. My country has very strong workers protection laws, and one of them is that if a company wants to fire you (without you having done anything wrong) they need to give you a whopping _three months_ notice. In other words, as long as they can't prove you aren't doing your job, they need to keep you for three months before they can end your job contract. Of course many companies don't like this. So how do they get around this annoying limitation? By making 1-month job contracts that they renew every month. Which happens to be legal; there's nothing stopping them from doing that. What this allows is that if they want to fire you, they don't have to: They just stop renewing the contracts. And they can do that at any time, for any reason. Thus the mandatory 3-month notice is reduced to being at most 1 month. At worst they could tell you that they aren't renewing the contract on the very last day of the previous contract, giving you essentially less than one day notice. And it's completely legal.
The worst part is that companies don't tell you "you aren't hired." they just don't call you back. At least in Europe T_T. Pretty annoying P.D. Love how the fish just casually support the mushroom
I have been unemployed for A YEAR constantly putting in applications and after getting an interview and things look promising I get ghosted.. if I even get an interview, 90% of the time I get ghosted anyway.
I have had that for the last 6 months. Had a few of the 12+ interviews where it seemed really promising due to experience, availability, and transportation. Then I see them post 2 weeks later and decline me on other postings.
A talking mushroom is a hell of a way to find out why I haven’t been hearing back on applications where I’m overqualified and they’ve got dozens of postings that have been up for months. 😑
Although I agree with people saying that companies that practice this should be heavily fined and their upper management thrown in jail, really it's more a problem of proving that they are committing tax fraud so really what needs to happen is the tax code needs to be rewritten to exclude loopholes that let people cheat the system.
I work at that place. Bent over backwards to get my former colleague (who is absolutely BRILLIANT) to consider moving over to my employer. After all of that work, BOOM, job title changed to a manager instead of engineer. @!#$
Dang this has been one of the main reasons that I seen people reposting jobs even after say they job was filled like 2 weeks ago. But nothing beats the scammers jobs posts
Yeah... they need to make this illegal like yesterday
It’s only illegal if you can prove it.
Or, how about never incentivizing fraud? That is the real problem.
too bad never gonna happen. if you ever need to say they need to make this... yesterday, you already know in ur heart it aint gonna happen
@@williamwoolf8072 Yes I do know that, what else can I say tho? 🙃
@@mikebalentine it's too late for that, duh the stupid law already exists, so what's the next best thing? TO TAKE IT AWAY.
You know when politicians brag about creating jobs: These are the jobs
Fcking THIS ⬆️
This is exactly it.
Pretty sure they need to spend money on payrolls for it to count as jobs. This is just "hiring"
Good old government interference
No it's right lol@@harlequingnoll5
I know this girl that received a job offer, quit her job, only to be told the company’s not hiring 3 days before she’s supposed to start working
Never quit previous job before a written contract with the next job. If you get the contract, that company finna pay you regardless if you work there frfr
@@RoundShadesand what if they just fire you without reason shortly after? and ghosting when asked to give reasons
@@RoundShades They can still lay you off and not pay you. Corporate America is fucking Heartless
But they would have to pay you some sort of severance if it is in your employment contract.@@GundamGokuTV
@@GundamGokuTVhas any corporation ever had a heart lol they're only people IN LAW ONLY
It always warms your heart to be interviewed several times, get rejected and see that same position still open six months later.
Hahaha it definitely warms 😂
Im currently in that spot. They told me i lack confidence and need more experince in stressful situations. Like never had that problem and my job is just stress on top of stress but ok. Still see it posted online months later haha
Just happened to me! I applied to be a purchasing manager at a different location but same company. I'm currently a purchasing specialist, but feel like I'm ready for the managerial part of it all. Went through 3 interviews, talked to a bunch of people, and the GM seemed to really like me. Never heard back from them, job listing went away on the internal job site so obviously I didn't get the job. No big deal. Fast forward 2 months later and guess what job just became available again?? Lmao.
@Simple_City Yeah, this happens all the time.
IF ONLY six months...
"Also, it helps keep the current overworked staff in check if they think we're in the process of hiring help"
I think an undercover audit will solve loads of these problems if they be able to do this and get tax benifits it's literally fraud... Seen my fare share of these tactics in Europe and I'm just a chef 😅
I am in Canada they also do it not just for tax breaks but for the ability to say the job is not being fulfilled can you import more labor. This creates other types of scams
Someone please help me understand how they work this. Is this US tax breaks? Also for Canada if you have more workers saying I don't have a job but companies ask for more workers, how are they getting away with it?
@@eryndelosreyes8224they pretend that these people don't want to work 😂
Foreign labor is cheaper because in some countries the government even helps the companies pay the salary up to a degree or give them a reduction in their taxes... Or both.
So they make extra sure that their positions get filled with the minimum possible of natives.
I already heard someone in the construction industry talk about it, I was quite shocked and disgusted.
So yeah, no, if you see a field filled to the brim with foreigners it might not be this particular field has a hard time rectruiting... They probably fake it to hell.
In the US they get to keep PPP loan money for positions they intend to fill. That's likely why they don't hire. They pocketed the money.
"Mission Impossible" says it all.
James Bird 007
@@understudiohub Fly Another Day, The Bird Is Not Enough, Flyfall, Never Say Nester Again, EagleEye, Birdfinger, The Bird With The Golden Gun.
@@FerociousSniper I propose "Goldwinger" instead.
@@yoshi6421 that wins.
those ghost jobs should be so freakishly illegal .. it should end companies
Agreed ghost jobs SHOUD be illegal
It is illegal. It is also nearly impossible to prove before a judge.
@@gmork1090 in other words the incentivations without actual results should disapear. don't offer money for companies say they're hiring .. offer money for companies who ACTUALLY employ more people. and make compensation payments to employees who pick up the slag for long durations of time an expensive mandatory thing
@@gmork1090 ah, the Right to Work approach
@@KazzoKiller3890that has nothing to do with it.
this should be a crime. A lot of people are losing their sanity in search for a job. They work hard to the interviews and tests. My brother had to do UX researches, interviewed a lot of people, gave all the information and analysis up for the recruiters. He did an amazing work for free, just for the recruiters to not give the position for him. It breaks his mental health. These companies are fucking with us. This SHOULD BE A CRIME.
It is a crime, the trouble is proving that this is what they're doing.
Good luck convincing the people getting campaign donations from those same companies to push for legislation and/or enforcement of such laws.
I wonder if someday there would be a revolt against them 🤔
The moment a company asks you to do actual work for free to prove you are capable of doing the work, you got to walk away because that is a huge red flag.
I had an interview where they basically asked me to solve their project. If you can get someone to implement stuff for you and then reject them, why not? 😂 Of course, I left that part empty - but, it's because I genuinely didn't know. Looking back, probably I'd have done the same even if I did know.
This is why it's important to ask pertinent questions during the phone screen and first round interview. People often focus too much on convincing the employer they're right for the role, instead of treating it as a mutual interview. You need to vet them before you even speak. Look at reviews, financials, salary info and really analyze the job description and learn what key phrases mean i.e. "fast paced" = under staffed, "able to meet tight deadlines" = Overworked and usually unreasonable expectations. No salary listed = Underpaid and not a transparent environment.
Always ask why the role is open and what average tenure is. All new people? They can't retain good talent. Everyone there for 20+ yrs? Good culture but may be resistant to modern processes. Learn what's not being said too.
And don't be afraid to say no and turn down a role that doesn't seem like a good fit. If it gives you a bad feeling during the interview, how do you think it's going to be once you're on the inside?
Any questions lol
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yea and ask about turnover rates for that position. It doesnt make sense when they cant hold their people
@@cobalius Yup! That's what I meant by tenure. Companies who can't retain talent are red flags and to be avoided.
Job application checklist:
Apply for job - Easy enough, obvious enough.
Resume - Fair enough.
Cover letter - Umm... What? Why? You know what, fine, never mind. Fine.
"Sign up to our website" - THEN WHY ARE YOU ADVERTISING ON SEEK/INDEE--- no, no, never mind. Fine. FINE.
...
"Fill out this questionnaire that is basically just a repeat of your resume"
"Do this test and that test"
"Research the company"
"Audit the company"
"Be available all day every day hoping for a phone call."
"Maybe get lucky, get an interview. Spend time and money getting to interview. Do unpaid work for interview. Answer questions that are either stupid and/or have the expectation of some bullshit answer, "why do you want to work here?"
"Never hear back about the interview."
Now do that 1000s of times. Yup, totally reasonable advice to add more effort to the part of the individual applying, rather than the organization.
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Oh and by the way all those questions we asked in the interviews were real because we needed your expertise for free. Same goes for the assessment center tasks which was just stuff which needed to get done but for which we never intended to hire someone. And yeah those clients you called weren't staged either but real clients which were unsatisfied with our performance and so we thought it would be funny to see how you handle them in the application process. So considering how qualified you are please reapply when we repost that job as we got a few more to dos...
@markuswunsch This happened verbatim to me. They had me run a mock audit on a "pretend client", took my sh*t and never called me again.
@@benjaminallen6469 Ugghh, I'm sorry
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@@benjaminallen6469happened to my sister. They said it was between her and another candidate, made her design an entire section of their website, and after she finished and handed it over, she never heard back from them.
@@AdriansArt thanks. Yeah it sucked. The job and pay were too good to be true. I suspected it going in but they were paying 6 figures. I learned my lesson though that's for sure
They also probably get to add those numbers to the " new jobs created this quarter!"
Yup! That's exactly the reason why the government will never investigate the frauds. It makes their metrics look too dang good. It's a shame that they care more about a fake number on a report than they do about the actual citizens they're supposed to be protecting. It's malpractice of the highest order.
Maybe that's what happens when all education is centered around GPAs and test results and not actual reasoning ability. When those kids grow up and get jobs, they just manipulate information to get the results they need to look successful according to a report instead of being willing and able to problem-solve. (But that's a whole other can of worms...)
Its added to payroll, so no this doesn't apply.😊
Covid - millions of jobs
End of covid + millions of jobs
Democrats: look we fixed the economy :D
Meanwhile americans look like 90s african commericals for a dollar a day could save a life
@@gamergodofjustice my guy, fucking Republicans do the same
"Our company is highly competitive where hundreds of thousands of people applied and only a few get employed!"
Sure is easy to say that when you have ghost jobs opening for years, and the few people who were accepted is through nepotism.
Never put in your resignation without a job offer in hand.
Not even then. Employers in at-will states can pull that offer at any point they like.
Next time I’m resigning after I start the next job. Pto is pto, maybe I’m in Hawaii, and maybe I’ve already been working somewhere else for a week and a half.
@Cybernaul Damn. Even before you start? There can’t be a legitimate reason to fire someone if their first day of work hasn’t happened yet.
we would just refuse to work at this point
*I got offered a job. I resigned my current job and showed up and was told they hired someone else for the position.*
Also happens when you apply to a job, never hear a word, but get hired elsewhere. A year passes and they call you and I'm thinking to myself "you didn't called back then when I was close to starve and lose my house".
They want you to follow-up with them to see if you might potentially get or have already gotten the job. It ranges by industry, but call back roughly once a week after an in-person interview to speak directly with the interviewer or human resources or someone with a board chair. This "demonstrates your persistence" to them, but really inflates their tiny little egos, reminds them of your name, and maybe gains a bit of pity.
That's the real ticker. They want a collection of potential candidates for when they actually need someone. Which shoots them in the foot, because by the time they come calling you already hate the company and moved waaaaay on
@@aria5614 why is job searching so eerily similar to dating? "demonstrate persistence" "collection of potential candidates".
I swear if I didn't know any better I would think you guys are talking about some red pill short video.
*THIS IS HIGHLY ACCURATE AND MORE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS.*
They do.
Got through all the interviews, had an offer in hand, was going to start that Monday, and then they pulled the job (probably not actually a ghost job, but might as well have been). Like, how are we not holding employers responsible for any of this?
For that, file a department of labor complaint. There are circumstances where that's actually illegal. Also make sure to file for unemployment against them. depending on how close they pulled it, you might count as an employee and their insurance cost will go up.
@@Iteria In terms of unemployment, one has to actually receive a paycheck from the company before you can claim unemployment from them.
@Cybermaul sure, but the company would have to fight about it. Many don't if they have you in their systems. Also they'd have to explain why the person shouldn't get unemployment and that would enhance the department of labor claim about the contract violation.
@@Cybermaul, or a labor contract. Make sure they sign that you're hired, before committing to it
@@CybermaulNO! Stop spreading lies. Unemployment is insurance you paid from your past paychecks. As long as you've been working for the past year, 18 months, you have the eligibility to get it regardless of the employer.. just have proof of your acceptance letter and date start and prove you were jibbed. Have no job to go back to. This new employer could be reported as scammer/scam company.
When they have you taking a personality test and questionairre that lasts one hour for an entry level position in a retail store. If they are making it that difficult, there is no job on the other end.
Learned this the hard way…
Personal favorite is when they make you spend an hour applying just to send an automated rejection notice one minute later. Or better yet, the application website is broken and your query didn't even go through.
The "personality test" is to see if you will die for the company, or if you still respect yourself enough to not let them trample all over you.
Holy shit I did take one of these…felt so off putting and it was for a fucking Marshall’s?
@@nebulaecry Me too, but it was a warehouse job with some driving.
❌Dead internet theory ⭕Dead job listings theory
I was about to get upset when I recognized the original creator of the audio, but then noticed that you credited him. Glad to see that. I hate when other "content creators" blatantly steal others' content and pass it off as their own. So thank you for giving him credit. He is awesome and makes great content.
boo hoo.
Fine 👏 Companies 👏 Listing 👏Fake 👏 Jobs
A fine means it's only illegal if you're poor. Jail company executives that commit fraud.
@@zyeborm good point. Fine by percentage of company net worth then.
Jail is kind of the same problem with bail being so easy.
@@inuendo6365yep, make the fines large enough and suddenly companies start making moral decisions! Go figure… 😅
Or just get rid of the programs that incentivize this.
@@inuendo6365 bail happens before jail not once your sentenced.
"No one wants to work anymore." 🤷♂️
There is that problem on the flip side too. The few real jobs out there will get filled by someone who is just using it for a couple weeks so they can keep getting unemployment.
@@Arbidarb That sounds like a load of BS. If that's your experience, have a deep look in the mirror and a long, hard think WHY none of your new hires stay beyond 2 weeks.
(Hint: "so they could collect unemployment" is unlikely to be the correct answer.)
@@Arbidarb less of a problem tbqfh, if it even exists (which it probably doesn't)
There ARE people like that, but they're the minority. @@olmostgudinaf8100
@@ArbidarbYeah, that's not a real problem
"you crushed those btw" amazing
Yeah, that one doesn't happen, as it's a liability.
Whenever you hear these words gotta be cautious cause they lie out their ass
I waited two months after being offered a job, turned down 3 jobs just to be ghosted by the company
Now I'm looking to sue them ❤
Stalker Stan man 🎉
Phil the zip recruiter bot being the fish is hilarious
You either didn't get the job, or they pay you way less than what you're worth
Everyone is paid less than they’re worth. That’s literally the underlying principle of capitalism.
I adore the little autumn aesthetic details :3 So, SO cute!
No jury in the world would convict that bird.
This is me since April. Companies keep putting ads on sites, saying they either don't need anyone anymore, or that I got rejected, then the next week a new copy of the exact same ad is put online.
I find it highly improbable that nobody is qualified for entry level min-wage jobs, so either this is, as stated, a scam, or their employees just keep on quiting cause the work conditions are terrible.
I'm so tired of it all at this point. When I had a job, it ran my health into the ground, and now that I don't have a job, the lack of it is running my health into the ground...
We could live in paradise but we unpromptedly made a culture to treat each other like ass
Well it was prompted though by capitalism
@@Hirotoro4692 😂😂😂
It's times like this, when I think Earth might be The 0th Circle of Hell and demons study us for inspiration on how to punish us further down the line.
@@gregbasore2108check out Kult. Earth is a prison and Hell is Death-Row for bodhivissim.
The good news is, "earth" is dissolving, we are escaping, and God bailed; cuz he don't wanna deal with it.
_We_ didn't do shit. _Rich assholes_ have made a conscious decision, over and over again, to trample anyone and everyone to squeeze out just a little bit more money.
The common man is not responsible for the moral degeneracy of the rich.
And that's when I unalived him, Your Honor
... ... case dismissed.
I went through this 10 years ago and gave up. Glad to hear I’m not alone.
"Wow something must be seriously wrong with you then" absolutely wrekt me xD
There also needs to be a limit on how many interview rounds someone goes through.
There is. 1. Period. I refuse to do more than 1.
"Wow, something must be really wrong with you, then!"
" _IT'S LUIGI TIME!_ " 😂
Reminds me of the time I got interviewed for a position, was told I was a "shoe-in for the position", given a full tour of the facility wherein I was told which locker would be mine, where to clock-in, and a bunch of details about the breakroom that would only be relevant if I worked there, all of which further insinuated I'd be getting the job, then was shown to the door and told to look forward to an email with details about starting date and paperwork that needed to be done to complete the hiring process, only to go home thinking I was hired and then NEVER HEAR BACK from them again.
I tried calling them after 2 weeks thinking they must be tied up in some red tape BS or perhaps there was something more I needed to do, only to be put on hold and then told to call back later. I tried a few more days later and got nothing. Finally, after 3 months (and long after I had already realized that they OBVIOUSLY weren't hiring me), I got a generic email with a copy-pasted message about how they had "chosen to go with another candidate." I was stunned.
I fucking love your content. Take no prisoners tell it like it is, beautiful rich artwork, dry dark sarcastic humor…..hits like coffee n a cigarette
I appreciate that you actually linked to the original video. Good on ya bro 🤜
Tried to find a job for over a year & encountered SO much of this I was beginning to wonder if there weRE ANY real job listings. I applied to everything from office managers to claims processing to dishwasher at a steakhouse. I finally managed to get a job recently and it’s part-time but it’s with a great group of people at a smaller employer. Every large scale employer I applied to wasted my time endlessly submitting things and interviewing.
Glass Door should have a 'look who's running fake ghost job ads, avoid these companies like the plague' department, that is if they don't already have one. These businesses need to be exposed, shamed, and boycotted.
"Everyone who applied would be great for this role.... let's hire no one for it and rethink this whole thing!"
Had that situation last week 😭
Omgosh 😂😭... That's sad
Ghost job.
Woooooooo
Boo 👻
Madonna singing her famous hit Ghostjob in the background:
"You're none that I can trust
Facing the darkest days
Economy ran away
And we're not gonna hire, we're not gonna hire
Ahhhhhh, ahhhhh
I know you're scared tonight
Ahhhhhh, ahhhhh
You'll never find a job"
@@markuswunschdamn bro throwing diamonds in the comments of other comments
How is this not illegal?!
Laws that are written with the ruling class in mind, are best when they benefit the ruling class. These laws are written exactly as they're intended.
Idaho 25-2108 (1868). "Stallions not permitted to run at large. The owner of any stallion over the age of eighteen (18) months must not allow the same to run at large, 𝘂𝗻𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗸𝗲𝘁 𝗰𝗮𝘀𝗵 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲 𝗼𝗳 $𝟮𝟱𝟬, 𝗼𝗿 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲, and is at such value assessed."
Laws for thee, not for me.
Well, that explains a lot.
Literally been my experience job hunting. I keep making it to final interviews to either get denied because: hiring freeze, not enough experience/too young.
I had one company that tracked to interview me and had said they loved me pull the hiring freeze thing. I had another have multiple people at the canopy say they love me and I’m perfect only for the big boss to immediately cut the final interview short because I was too young - and that one I had to get FIVE people take a long reference survey and took lots of time off work interviewing. :(
Too young? I'm pretty sure that's an illegal reason not to hire you unless you're under the legal working age. You may need to look deeper into that. Who knows? You may be able to get paid from them without working for them at all. Good luck!
Yeah, get them on record or recording saying that and take it to a lawyer. They will have a field day
@@vengefulbeautythere is no law to discriminate against young people. Only old people. As long as they don't say you're too old, it's perfectly legal. Sadly
@@Iteria I'm no lawyer, but I'm preeetty sure age discrimination doesn't just go one way.
@vengefulbeauty you can look it up. It's not illegal to discriminate against someone for being young. Otherwise companies couldn't have requirements that specified years of experience. That discriminates against the young. They'd have to specify the actual skills you needed instead.
people keep commenting
“this should be illegal”
“this should be illegal”
dearies
it IS illegal
it’s called FRAUD
the government just isn’t punishing it
the irs already knows whether or not a company’s workforce has actually grown and is retraining workers
but for some reason
the irs is offering incentives based on “good behavior” rather than it being based on actual RESULTS based on numbers, like on the number of actual employees on the company payrolls
the only good policy for this is to rescind incentives for “good behavior”, and to strengthen incentives on actual workforce expansion
Yep I notice this every time the fiscal year approaches the end. All the positions we got approved to start hiring for, but could not get approved to send offers to any candidates for, get closed. Then about 3 months later they get reposted, about 4-6 months after that we’re told to start hiring, and then when we find people the ability to send an offer gets put on delay again. This tends to turn into what we call finding a warm body hire…the moment we get approved to hire we get 4-5 resumes and within a week we pick one; even if they are horrible, because if any time passes they tend to start the cycle again.
Why Glassdoor exists … always review the employer
They almost all do that though.
Glassdoor is known to remove negative reviews and no longer be trustworthy though.
Glassdoor is a data farming scam. They won’t allow truthful negative reviews mentioning specific people or positions within a company.
The company just leaves good reviews about themselves on those things.
This even happens at the retail level, though less hoops. As long as they have that stack of resumes in the office, it doesn't matter how many of our hopes they crush. -_-
15 mins after "Why can't we get good employees?" 😂
They force us to do the bare minimum or lose our sanity, it's the system they created.
Best part is not being hired for such a long time makes the interviewers question that aspect as well. The longer you search for a job, the less your chances are of getting one.
OMG the fish can talk? 😮
You never know 😏
This is exactly why I started doing the bare minimum with online applications. If you are serious, and want to see if I'll be a good fit, then invite me into the office, shake my hand, look me in the eye, and have ma conversation with me.
Youre crazy 😂
@Creditban true. But I fail to see what that has to do with the current discussiom at hand.
Go provide value until you're no longer a liability or a deficit, until thats the case you can negociate claim to your mothers milk. Think about repaying dividences to your mother 🎉@@FerociousSniper
you guys are doing gods work
Fishie is Phil! Omg, finally heard Fishie's voice!
Honestly there needs to be a union for job applicants, if the company doesn’t play well, the union crushes them
Lol OK bud.
@@Hypnotica420x you are a hiring manager with these bad habits I bet
It's completely impractical and unworkable as an actual idea, but I am 100% with you in spirit! I'd settle for them getting charged every time they do this!
@ very hard to do, but indeed company ratings are already shedding light on companies behaviors
your characters are so cute
Thank youuu 🥹🥹
I've been in that bird's shoes for FOUR YEARS.
I've heard some companies will assign "mock" projects as part of an interview process, which basically requires several candidates perform free work for the chance at the job. Then the job offer mysteriously evaoprates.
Mushroom: I mean, I not even sure payroll exists or HR. We just give our janitor a sandwich to put on a suit and act like he knows what he's doing. The only English phase we taught him is, "I'll look into it."
This is painfully accurate 😢
Finally the fish got talkin part 😂
Its really hard to find a job these days..
I feel you birdie (bro can't buy tv, house, now bro even dont have a job)
Phil the Fish cosigning the foolery is nasty work 😂😅
Furthermore, as this is one of the positions which we actually do need to fill eventually. We will be using this process to show that we are "unable" to find a domestic hire and will instead hire a foreign worker for well below market rate into what is basically indentured servitude.
Literally what happened to me. I was told I was the ONLY person who had the license they required and I never heard back from them. They said they went on personality base rather than education and background… despite me being the only qualified one who was trained before the job 😅
I'm liking the addition of the fish characters.
And people try to gaslight us further by saying we're lazy for not getting a job, or say, "Just get another job if this one doesn't pay well enough"
Meanwhile ive been begging management for a new front end dev to help me out and lessen the burden on my shoulders and they hired a 3rd backend dev
Just turn the new backend dev around. Easy.
Remember this short when the media says there's suddenly "250,000+ new jobs added in 2024" conveniently right before election time.
💯
- 500 years worth of job experience
- Entry level position
- Paid like an intern
These damn millenials are so ungrateful... /s
Good! Maybe millennials and zoomers should seek out those CEO's and give them a 'surprise' from behind. ;)
Looool wtf 🎉@@Helaw0lf
@@Helaw0lfLuigi style
Guys, gals, and non-binary pals, I give you the Tech Industry
The millennial job hunting experience.
A full time job applying for jobs to get a job is so fucking relatable… I hate wasting my time for two weeks of interviews just to get told they decided to go with someone else… only to post the same damn job a day later
Companies that are in "hiring status" get a tax cut. Thats why they do this.
The politicians are trying to get those job numbers up for the campaign trail.
"Just walk in there, ask to see the manager. Look them in the eye, and give a firm handshake. It worked for me."
You should do one covering companies that post external job listings meant for internal employees from a different department, or because of nepotism.
They did
This has happened around 4 times to me, I stopped even trying. Started going with startups because after 1 interview, I had the job.
Maybe we should start recording the interviews for justice occasion and then blackmailing them into hiring us
@mrgreen Check your state laws, in a lot of them this is legal and you don't have to tell them! Texas is a one-party recording state, which let me record and figure out my old boss was gaslighting me about work she was giving me. I thought I was losing my mind.
stop spying on me!!! this describes me too well
Been there, done that. 1.5 years of looking, 150+ interviews. This economy is sick and no government data cook can convince me otherwise.
Me applying to jobs in a certain segment of the entertainment industry.
My husband applying to editing jobs.
They do this in order to justify their HR budgets and prove to the government they're looking to meet certain diversity quotas (for the tax incentives). At my old job we interviewed for a year for a position we filled internally and KEPT interviewing for almost a year after the position was filled. 2 years of interviewing knowing none of them were getting hired.
HR needed to look busy.
Evil employers love this one secret.
LEGIT! Look for places that are always hiring! They're either pulling this ish, or They're toxic AF!!!
America really needs to design its regulations and laws around the idea that jackass corporations will take advantage of it. We write things like the corps are daddy's perfect angel who would never be deceitful never.
We technically did, but Ronald Regan ruined it for all of us.
@@JimmyJojoshabadoo ?
@priscillajimenez27 Back in the 80s he spearheaded on giving more tax incentives and going back on regulations because of his "trickle down economics", where money would go down from incentives owners and therefore workers. A stupid concept.
@@JimmyJojoshabadooYep, exactly this.
Furthermore, we have Jerry Falwell and Paul Weyrich to thank for that. They formed the Moral Majority-a movement that created the Religious Right and set us back 40 years just so they could _get tax breaks on their churches._ Getting Reagan in office was their plan as well.
Literally, two people responsible for the entire state of the world today. Before they came along, we actually had progressive Republicans.
But yeah, think about everything the GOP has done and you can trace it back to those two.
I highly recommend the book _The Power Worshippers,_ by Katherine Stewart. It talks all about this stuff.
This. Every regulation needs an economist to step in and tell them how it's going to go. Instead the economists are working for the lobbyists who draft the legislation and then the politicians are paid on how to vote on it.
this is frustratingly accurate
Never quit before you start a new job. Don't bother giving your old job two weeks. Take a day or two off and work the first couple days for the other company to prove it's real, and then resign. If your old job cries about it, just tell them to blame their fellow companies for the millions of scam jobs that are indistinguishable from real ones.
One of my professors was an interviewer and one of her jobs was to make interviews difficult enough for nobody to pass them specifically to keep those positions open and never lose those sweet tax benefits
What tax benefit specifically?
@Paul-A01 Idk the name, but don't worry, probably not same country as yours :)
Those tax benefits should apply to only positions filled, not positions open... Just so they can't be gamed.
Yeah, companies oftentimes resort to bending the law quite a lot. My country has very strong workers protection laws, and one of them is that if a company wants to fire you (without you having done anything wrong) they need to give you a whopping _three months_ notice. In other words, as long as they can't prove you aren't doing your job, they need to keep you for three months before they can end your job contract.
Of course many companies don't like this. So how do they get around this annoying limitation? By making 1-month job contracts that they renew every month. Which happens to be legal; there's nothing stopping them from doing that. What this allows is that if they want to fire you, they don't have to: They just stop renewing the contracts. And they can do that at any time, for any reason. Thus the mandatory 3-month notice is reduced to being at most 1 month. At worst they could tell you that they aren't renewing the contract on the very last day of the previous contract, giving you essentially less than one day notice.
And it's completely legal.
The worst part is that companies don't tell you "you aren't hired." they just don't call you back. At least in Europe T_T. Pretty annoying
P.D. Love how the fish just casually support the mushroom
That type of ghosting happens in the US too
Happens here in Asia and the Middle East too. I guess it’s a global phenomenon.
I swear, the gaslighting hits too close to home 😢
I have been unemployed for A YEAR constantly putting in applications and after getting an interview and things look promising I get ghosted.. if I even get an interview, 90% of the time I get ghosted anyway.
I have had that for the last 6 months. Had a few of the 12+ interviews where it seemed really promising due to experience, availability, and transportation. Then I see them post 2 weeks later and decline me on other postings.
Great for acquiring the intell on rival companies.Keep your best data fir when you start the Job.
And the very same companies talk about „family“ when referring to employees. It’s got to be the most toxic and dysfunctional form of family 😂
a few days later their power mysteriously went out, no coincidence.
A talking mushroom is a hell of a way to find out why I haven’t been hearing back on applications where I’m overqualified and they’ve got dozens of postings that have been up for months. 😑
He told them there wasn't mushroom left for the position
Although I agree with people saying that companies that practice this should be heavily fined and their upper management thrown in jail, really it's more a problem of proving that they are committing tax fraud so really what needs to happen is the tax code needs to be rewritten to exclude loopholes that let people cheat the system.
I work at that place. Bent over backwards to get my former colleague (who is absolutely BRILLIANT) to consider moving over to my employer. After all of that work, BOOM, job title changed to a manager instead of engineer. @!#$
I think Luigi needs a word with management...
Dang this has been one of the main reasons that I seen people reposting jobs even after say they job was filled like 2 weeks ago.
But nothing beats the scammers jobs posts
People nowadays have forgotten what it feels like. I think it’s time to start reminding them in situations like this.