Breaking Down The Original Halloween "Trilogy"
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2023
- In 1978, the cinematic landscape was forever altered when John Carpenter and Debra Hill crafted a highly impactful slasher film Halloween. Today we will explore the original timeline encompassing the first three entries of Halloween.
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Halloween 1981 will forever be my fav direct sequel. I also love the revelation of Michael & Laurie being siblings.
Facts!!!! 💯🔪🎃🔪🎃🔪🎃
Making them siblings was the dumbest thing ever.
@@aSkeletonAtThefeast it made the franchise more interesting! and the connection between Michael & Laurie make sense as to why he kept coming after her. while he also murdered random ppl not connected to him. Since ppl like to argue that he was turned into a family murderer.
@@ifericonlyknewexactly. It made a whole lot of sense that he kept stalking her and her friends
Halloween II (1981) is my favorite Halloween sequel!
Halloween III: Season of The Witch was fun and very unique ^_^
Same
Glad people have come around on Season of the Witch in the past 20 years or so. I first saw it on a 2 pack DVD with Halloween II in 2007 and loved it. I avoided it for over a decade because it was "the one without Michael Myers". I now watch it every Halloween along with H1,H2,H4, and H2018.
People haven't 'come around'.....it's just an easy way to be perceived as having more discerning taste than all the rubes out in the Heartland who rejected the film...People love to champion high profile failures...
I have it on VHS and love it 🎃 unfortunately I no longer have a DVD player 😂
@@tgriffin3059 So in other words... People have come around.
@@teeveestudios8594 If I demand somebody hand over their money, and they refuse....and the second time I ask the question, but draw a gun and aim it at them while making the request...and then they go ahead and give me the money...does that mean they 'came around?' 'Coming around' usually refers to someone changing their mind, of their own accord...That's not what happened...it's just become more trendy to say you like Halloween 3 over the last decade or so...that's all...
@@tgriffin3059 Are you liking your own comments bud? Very cool
“two more days til halloween halloween halloween…silver shamrock!”
The Halloween anthology ideas actually sounds great, too bad people just wanted Michael Myers
People? What 'people' do you mean? You mean the 'people' who actually PURCHASE THE TICKETS?
Myers is such a strong iconic villain its hard to getaway from him.
Man... there is SUCH artistry in the team of Carpenter/Dean Cundey - the way everything is so deliberately lit, framed blocked... that's not at ALL amateurish or "low budget". That's art. That's another element lacking in some sequels. There's no atmosphere or precision like that. It's not often that a horror film of that era holds up as far as cinematrography - sure, future slashers had more gore and effects and action... but they are typically not shot or directed very well! And for all the polarizing opinions of HALLOWEEN II, I think it is the best of all the sequels that really feels like it belongs in the series, and is closest in look and feel to the first.
Halloween II has the best looking Michael imo. I love that the mask looks degraded and withered. The jumpsuit even looks better too.
I was a kid when I first saw III on cable tv back in the 80s. I've always loved it. He's not lying about the Silver Shamrock song! It's been stuck in my head for decades. 😂
I believe that the reason why Halloween 3 flopped like it did when it came out, is solely because of the movie title itself.
If they would have presented the movie title differently as; Halloween 3, A New Chapter: Season Of The Witch, it would have been received without the controversy.
And it still would have done nothing at the box office...the film is anemic...
eh calling it halloween is what doomed it. I think it would've done better w/o the name association.
@@thecunninlynguist Agreed!!
No, it woulda got the same reaction with that title doofus. The way to go woulda been not to call it Halloween at all. If they just called the movie “Season of the Witch” or something like that it woulda done great. Cause it’s a good movie. But when you call it Halloween 3 anything, you’re going to confuse and upset people. The title example you gave woulda actually been worse because it woulda been just as disappointing, but now with a title that’s too long and sloppy looking. You can’t try to shove 3 titles in it 😂. Less is more. “Season of the Witch” woulda worked perfect cause it doesn’t have the Halloween name so you’re not expecting Michael Myers, but you also know Halloween is the season of the witch, so its a clever way to make a spin-off in another universe
Yo I liked Halloween 3. I saw it as a kid and I had no reason to think it was related to the previous movies. Just based my liking it on the film itself. Was much better than most Halloween films.
The action in this movie is insane. Should be in any top 5 of best chase scenes with Scream 1996 and Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003
20:00 Laurie Strode did NOT abandon her daughter. This is because Halloween 4 and H20 are not part of the same timeline. She has a son in H20, not a daughter.
Shows how lazy they are with their research. They can correctly pronounce "Samhain" but they don't know specific details like timeline continuity and narrative involved events. You can definitely separate Fly by Night fans from TRUE fans (you and I) of the franchise based off their knowledge and mistakes they misconstrued.
She did abandon her daughter she asked her death!!!!!!! And if you do your research reward the original script
@@vampirascoffin870 "She asked her death?" What does that even mean? English please.
@@mikehunt4986I think he mean she faked her death. She said it in H20
@@Reese_Pantera Again, H20 has nothing to do with Halloween 4. They're not part of the same timeline. So in Halloween 4, 5, and 6 she really is dead.
This is my favorite Halloween trilogy.
Halloween 2 has always been my favorite and this hit piece does not change my mind.
Yes, I consider these 3 films the best and only real Halloween trilogy.
i loved the cast of Halloween 3
LOVE this channel! Never been so early to a video I feel part of the family 😂
At 38 I've never seen this franchise but man now I want to! Thanks for the upload ☺️
love your vids man
Saw parts of Halloween 1 as a kid and it frightens me. Saw Halloween 3 afterward and that haunted me to this day with the near ending of the walking dead. Still gives me chills and I don't think I would watch 3 again.
They should have stuck with the new story for each movie idea they had with 3. Unfortunately people's want of more Michael got in the way of that. 3 is a damn good movie.
I kind of wish Halloween stayed as an anthology franchise after Season of the Witch.
No
Heck no
Truth, nothing could be any worse than 4,5, and 6. Could’ve had a ghost/ haunted house story, a werewolf story, a zombie story, etc.
@@infamousprime694 4 and 5 were both outstanding.
@@tgriffin3059 Halloween 4 was decent at best, 5 was garbage.
"The brother thing was awful" THANK YOU JOHN even he freaking said it was
Halloween (1978), Halloween 2 (1981) Are My Still All Time Favorites Along With Halloween (2018) And Halloween Kills (2021).
Its worth mentioning Smith's Grove, which had a mental hospital, was 1 town north on I-65 Bowling Green KY
You know it's funny at 34:00 it shows Dean Jones and not Fred MacMurray, but I never realized how much they resemble each other.
Hey guys, Any chance of you reviewing / talking about 'Dark Harvest'? It just came out this month and it's a really fun horror movie that everyone is sleeping on. Great visuals with some really striking shots (wardrobe department killed it too), nice practical monster make up and some gory kills. 👍
I hope you guys have an awesome Halloween everyone is intitled to one good scare
entitled*
Part 3 is a very good storie almost felt like a episode of twin peaks
"Halloween Ends" too
100% believe if they had dropped the Halloween part and just called it Season of the Witch, EVERYONE would've loved it.
My Halloween series canon is as follows.
Halloween
Halloween 2
Halloween H20
It makes for a nice neat trilogy. Takes care of the family thing and has a satisfying ending for Laurie and Michael.
The first two Halloween movies were great and gave a perfect ending to Michael Myers. Halloween 3 was great as a standalone film imo I watch it every year man..what could have been if they just kept the anthology series going every year.
When the original Halloween came out I remember everyone talking about it but I was too young to see the movie by myself. By the time I was old enough I went to see Halloween III season of the witch. I sat in the theater growing more and more angry as I realized Michael wasn’t going to be in it. I walked out about 3/4 of the way through and haven’t watched it since. Happy Halloween everyone 🎃
It sucks Halloween didnt become an anthology series of movies. I would have absolutely been into that.
I’m from haddenfield nj too beautiful place to live
Because I read Fangoria Magazine, I understood the the third Halloween movie wouldn't have Michael Meyers, and so I did enjoy it. I was hoping we would have gotten different Halloween films after that, but it would be years until we got "Trick R Treat", which was the kind of film I would have hoped we would have gotten after "Season of the Witch".
I’m not the biggest fan of the sibling dynamic, but other than that I think Halloween 2 is a solid sequel, and I enjoy it a lot more than a lot of the other sequels, including Kills and Ends.
Never thought of the theory of H2 being a dream of Laurie's. That would explain the "Mr. Sandman" song in the beginning and end of the movie.
Halloween is a cult classic. It is not without its flaws, but the atmosphere is absolutely stunning and you can feel the evil lurking in the dark.
Halloween 2 started a trend which Halloween was doomed to follow for each of the next installments, except for 3. Friday the 13th cemented the rules and Halloween 2 had to follow the rules and what other slashers established. So it was more brutal, had more scars and more thrills. I don’t like the movie. After the first this just feels too far apart from the style of the original.
Halloween 3 was the failed attempt to make Halloween in an annual horror anthology series. Thank god the movie got so much love the last years and people appreciate the movie for what it is. It is a good movie and the story will hook you.
Halloween 3 is underrated
I have an idea for a reboot...
In 2002, Laurie Strode was attacked by Michael in a mental hospital. Even though she had a plan, she was still traumatized. Her injuries and fall cause her to fall into a coma. She's been dreaming of all these bizarre scenerios of the same story, different victims and children, except for that strange "mask-bug".
Ends with an 80 year old Laurie, killing her nurse with a knitting needle, getting ready to kill the other tenants. Don't forget her doctor, Dr. Samuels.
Should've been literally halloween 3: the night no one comes home lol
Halloween 3 and Halloween ends will forever be in like and hate. I who lives and breathes Halloween movies are 2 of my favorites.
Halloween should have been an anthology series, different Halloween stories told in each movie.
Halloween should have been EXCLUSIVELY Michael Myers...but they should have actually made quality films, instead of merely begging Jamie Lee to come back every decade or so...
@@tgriffin3059 no
@@Mxyz They never intended to even make ONE Halloween movie. It was originally a story about miscellaneous baby sitter murders on any old generic night....The whole Halloween thing was added on later...
@@tgriffin3059 John Carpenter wanted it to be a anthology series, he didn't want to have Myers return because his story was told. Who cares what it was first drafted as.
@@Mxyz Who cares? Oh, so all of a sudden, the original intent doesn't matter? The anthology folks always clamor about remaining true to the original intent of the filmmakers...as if that's so sacred...well, the original intent was to have a bunch of babysitters killed....on ANY old night of the year....so your anthology might as well have been a series of July 4th tales, or Labor Day stories...or, hell, sagas centering on May 15...
Johnny Carson as Cochran?? ....wow, I'm not sure what to think of that...
I need to give halloween 3 another shot.
The last time I tried to watch it was when I was around 12 years old and that was about 27-28 years ago 😂 I did not appreciate it at all because I was on a Halloween binge watching them back to back to back and rented all 5 films at blockbuster. I popped in part 3 in the VCR and about 30 minutes in I was questioning what the hell I was watching because Michael myers was not making an appearance 😂😂😂
i have to agree on this one about laurie's dream theory. if you remember how Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 started it was all taking place in the hospital just like in the original michael shows up and starts to kill everyone and then, comes after laurie and just when you think he's about to get her, it turns out to be all in Laurie's head as it was nothing but a nightmare and that it never happened. so, what if, and i mean hear me out on this one, what if halloween 2 the original never happened and it was just all in a traumitized laurie strode's mind. hence why we get Halloween 2018 and why Laurie is a complete wreck. see it makes sense when you really want to get down to it.
I'm here so fucking early and I like it!
Season of the Witch i think is the 2nd best Halloween film after Carpenter's original. Then Halloween II .
Halloween 3 is the best Halloween sequel.
Though it has its flaws, Halloween 2 is a great and underrated film. There is nothing wrong with the family angle. It’s just been executed terribly in many of the other movies.
Love season of the witch
I’m actually okay with the sister plot twist. The 2018 reboot wasn’t believable to me. If Laurie thought Michael would come back to kill her she would have had more than just a few legal guns and a jury rigged oven.
No bullshit that damn jingle was Aggie as fk 🤣
Halloween 2 😈👍
Its a shame halloween 3 didnt do as well as it should have. Imo its an awesome film. I think if they had taken the Halloween title from it just called it Season of the Witch it would have done much better.
There is only 1 Halloween film: John Carpenter's Halloween
Got Christopher lee and walken mixed up and omg now I want to see walked do Donald’s lines 😂😂
How TF could you remotely get them mixed up when they LITERALLY showed Christopher Lee on screen in this video THRICE?? Young and Old pics of Christopher Lee were shown. 🙄🤦🏽♂️
Wow some of you people are scatterbrained and don't pay attention.
@@wadewilson8011 maybe because I listened to the video? Some people work and don’t sit at home all day watching 30 full minutes of a RUclips video breaking it down? Jesus Christ get a fuggin grip
I find ot funny the Peter Cushing didn't take it, Star Wars.was not a studio prpduced film,.it was an Indie film 20th Century Fox distributed.
Third part was not a bad movie, but should had have another name. With that III people expected Michael Myers again.
Don't care about the haters, I've always loved Halloween 3 ☘️
Halloween 3 was the best in the franchise
I agree, you got to love the tagline; 'the night no one comes home'...
Halloween Part 14 show be Leatherface vs. Michael Myers.
I had always heard that Carpenter was initially inspired by disturbing encounters Carpenter had had sitting in bars when random white men, thinking he would commiserate, would reveal tales of horrible racial violence they had committed as if it weren't anything. Taking that basic premise, he just changed it to random rather than targeted killings
I have never heard that. Source please.
The Halloween 2 fever dream is a theory I've always ran with, but leading into my own canon, not the awful 2018 trilogy. Yuck.
I like how John doesn't care about whatever studio does with Michael either it be a reboot, cult, supernatural, kung fu
No care just as long as a paycheck comes in the mail 😂
So youre saying we can blame budweiser and star wars for the crappy sister thing
Dick Warlock....now thats a MANS name...😆
Spliff it up?
They shoulda just called H3 “Season of the Witch” without the Halloween title. That woulda been a good title on its own in another universe. And I get carpenter was trying to do an anthology series originally, but if that was the case the story should change every movie, not every 2 movies. I mean they did slightly change the story in H2 but it was same setting. That makes no sense to do anthology style after the first 2 movies are in the same setting. Every 2 movies a different story? That’s weird and never been done. Anthony movies are a different story every movie. I honestly think that’s a bullshit explanation and they just used the Halloween name for marketing purposes to generate more sales. “Season of the Witch” woulda been fine with no Halloween title because Halloween already is the season of the witch. It’s a different way of saying “Halloween”. So it’s another movie based on the Halloween holiday in a new universe
Here's the deal. As a die hard TRUE fan of Halloween and Michael Myers. It's literally my favorite MOVIE (Not just horror) of all time. That said...
Halloween II is canon and the best sequel of any produced after the original. "H3 Season of the Witch" should've NEVER been related to the first two films. It was a boneheaded decision made by a horror movie genius.
H3 (note the disrespect III*) Should've never been attached to the franchise itself. It should have just been released as "Season of the Witch" or "Trick or Treat." (Both titles were available back in when the movie was made).
People are saying, "its about time folks came around to H3 because its not a bad movie." And technically it's not.
What those people dont't understand is the impact of expecting Michael Myers, and getting androids and melting masks with bugs crawling out.🙄🤦🏽♂️
GTFOH!
So yeah, I will never consider it canon to the Halloween universe and it's its own entity. It would've been way more popular. I still feel resentment towards it. But when I separate it from the rest, and the legendary Tom Atkins completely helps me forgive John Carpenter... I can THEN watch it.
Why the sudden switch to a different commentator? 🤦♂️
9:45 Bill Clinton was a cameraman?
LOL
Season Of The Witch is...meh. I like the idea of witchcraft meets the computer age, but I just don't think it was executed too well.
There's no Halloween trilogy. It's a duology. 1 and 2. Same night. Done and dusted.
2 and 3 are, to me, the only good entries in the franchise after the original
Doesn't Silver Shamrock remind you....just a little bit....
of a certain cartoon Mouse?
Just wondering.
Halloween 4 is extremely underated - would be nice if they retconned h6 and picked up 35 years after the events of H5 (Myers missing- man in black still at large) with Jamie Lloyd returning as the central character (a single mom lured back to haddonfield when she inherits the Carruthers family home).
Halloween 4 isn't that underrated, the majority of people hold it in a decently high regard. Halloween 5 on the other hand....
@@travzimmerman1340Nah you tweaking Jamie could never be 1/4 as annoying as Tina, and even if she was, it wouldn't be her fault. It's the fault of the idiots behind H5
Honestly a better idea would be to make a sequel after Halloween 4 that actually DOES something with its ending, since Hollywood is so adamant of having copycat killers (ofc the og Mike would still be in it)
@@travzimmerman1340but you got to give it credit, it had the laundry chute scene man
I love Tina though she's very earnest.
Its the same mask, Debra Hill stored it under her bed snd she was a chain smoker
Jaime Lee would have been a nightmare to work with
Your PING sound triggers my misophonia and causes me to want to rage
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As a true Michael Myers Halloween fan, I feel it is my duty to remind everyone that there are three, and only three, Halloween movies worth watching :
Halloween (1978)
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween H2O
All others are pure crap and do not exist in my reality.
You're not a fucking "true Michael Myers Halloween fan". "H20" - worst movie, pure crap inspired by "Scream". Nothing to do with "Halloween", should never have been done.
These movies will make you pee. 😮
At least Carpenter takes responsibility on thr bro/sis angle being awful, which it is.
Quartermass? No sir, it's Quatermass. The syllables are pronounced QuA-ter-mass.
There’s no such thing as an original Halloween trilogy. The original Halloween movie was its own movie with its own timeline. Laurie and Michael were not related. Halloween 2 was a decision made later where they changed the timeline (which is technically the second timeline) and made Laurie and Michael related. And Halloween 3 has nothing to do with any of it. You can’t just take 3 movies from any franchise and call it a trilogy 😂. The only trilogy ever done in the Halloween franchise is the blumhouse trilogy. Trilogies are uniform. Chris Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy is a trilogy. You should have just titled this “Halloween 1-3” or something, but not the original trilogy. Because the first 3 Halloween movies are NOT a trilogy.
Halloweens 1 thru 3 are the only ones I officially recognize. The rest are bad fan-fic.
This the only 3 that are good. JC had a hand in all 3. Not counting his soundtrack work with his son on the new trilogy not withstanding. All of the others are just trash.
This movie flat out SUCKED. Example: Halloween 4 The Return of Michael Myers (world wide #1 at the box office)…DONE!
There is no trilogy. It's just two Michael Myers films, and a third utterly anemic attempt to CASH IN on Michael Myers...
OH WOW YALL HAVE NEVER COVERED THESE MOVIES AT ALL