That young lady gave a good explanation about coloured people. I am colored in my late sixtys and remember the apartheid system like it was yesterday we still have a long way to go. I regard my family as the United Nations of South Africa. My ancestary is black, white, colored and Indian. But having such articulate young people gives me hope.
@@helenevice6920 that description has more to do with ancestry and nothing else , and that is not your identity Your identity is tied to your father's lineage, where he's forefathers came from and who they are It's a shame people do not know the difference And you're not colored The system has messed with you guy's , No one in Africa, goes around saying , am black But you can say you're indian , Caucasian, Arab etc Because they're not indigenous to Africa We indigenous people, do not term ourselves any other than our tribe
The brother from Ghana still has much to learn and truly grasp the profound impact of systemic injustices and how their legacy continues to shape and affect future generations.
Beautiful topic and well done to the panel. I however wanted to ask when one of the ladies explained that some of them can't identify with being black because they don't relate with black people as some are a generation of mixed race to mixed race. So if that is true, how or why is it so easy for the same people (again I mean some and not all) to identify with being Khoi/San/Nama/Khoekhoe/etc. and not Black? That is where I truly find myself confused with this topic. I am happy though that we are educating our people on this topic
I think the culture has perhaps been maintained through the generations. Some coloured people speak Zulu or Xhosa at home too. It just depends on your family. But others have absolutely no African heritage. Mixed with Indian and Arab or white and Malaysian… those are the ones who don’t have any premise for identifying as black
@@RastaAfricanGentleman My personal opinion is this, as a black you have your culture e.g Zulu, Xhosa etc. As a coloured person, some of us only started our historical heritage journey recently. That include DNA, archives from one province to the other to gather that information. It took us 5 years as a family to get records dated back to 1901. Some records stated that from my maternal side we are Hottentot and Bantu. My dad side creole from Madagascar. However final analysis or result concluded that we are predominantly Khoi. The Khoi and San people has been through the most. Rape, genocide committed against them, hunted down like animals and ostrised. Events that is not even in our History books. My ancestors are a forgotten people. I made it a point to educate my children, nephews and nieces. My ancestors needs to be honoured because they have paved the way for us. I will not let them be ignorant, when it comes to the family history ever again. Our parents were quite about the past injustices and I will not be silent. I would like to emulate that pride of my heritage like the black folks. We are all African ultimately and need to embrace our differences. Apartheid was meant to break us, but it fostered a whole new culture that I will embrace as a coloured
It's a cultural thing. Black South Africans still have all their ancestral languages, customs and social structures intact. Within the Khoisan groups it's essentially only the Nama and San people who's cultures "survived". The rest were all assimilated.
Last night the algorithm on TT showed me Polynesian people. The first video was of a guy who was singing beautifully, what's being sung in the coloured community - i.e, golden oldies. Upon reading the comments, it lead me to realise that the guy and the group he was with are in fact NOT coloured people! They LOOKED coloured in every aspect! I couldn't believe my eyes that they in fact weren't! It was a different experience to the "Brazil" and other experiences I've come across previously.
Coloured people are mixed race, if we're going by the English definition of race, which is defined as physical charasterics such as skin colour. But, in SA, you kind of blend race and ethnicity/nationality into one. So, coloured is a mixed person with a blend of European white and black African, or other.
@@justicetshovhota3940 buddy, I know how genetic works, just cuz daddy is white and mummy is black doesn't mean the kid will come out mix. So let me ask you, what part of my statement is "not really" the answer?
@@Lovelee95There are numerous fully black and Indian people who reclassified as coloured during apartheid. Similarly numerous "undesirable whites" got classified as coloured. Literally became an issue that was discussed in parliament in 1986.
Mixed race(bi-racial) = White parent + Black parent. Coloured = Multiracial parents ,grandparents,great grand parents,great great grand parents etc = Multigenerational. Every coloured genetics is different from the other , for that reason its been determined its the most diverse in the world. All races in one person. In my case 16 ethnicities. Most coloureds does not know that fact. Your looks will detemined your heritage,indian,chinese , khoi /San etc. Coloured can look like any race in the world. Coloureds come into existence in 1652 when the settlers brought the slaves to SA from Madagascar,St.Helena,Maurituis, China, India , Indonesia and North Africa, All these intermingle with each other and the settlers and indigenuis Khoi and San = COLOURED
Why not we have just one. Mixed or Colored. It appears colored identity is just more than one generation of a mixed race. Essentially, a colored person is mixed but not vice versa. Isn’t that just making it complex? And how do you identify a mixed race from a colored race visually? Not much difference I suppose
It is something only coloured can be able to do. I have encountered many mixed race people and from the first look I could see they are rather mixed with different race parents.There is just something amiss. Any coloured can testify to that.@@Abebeeeeeee
@@AbebeeeeeeeYes Coloured people can be 3-5 generations are mixed race lineage but you must not have listened to this video, this woman at time 6:00 explained everything accurately about what Coloured people are. One cannot come centuries later and try to reclassify a whole ethnic group to suit your narrative with layers of historic lineage, she emphasized it has nothing about skin tone shade and all about a unique South African Coloured culture. Mixed race sometimes can be loosely used for both biracial and Coloured people but to simplify things, mixed race is biracial as explained above. Again you'll be disrespecting a whole community of Coloured people and their culture by forcing your own beliefs onto them. Please avoid doing that.
@@berengsello5645 Rhodesia/Zimbabwe had integral colonial ties with white South Africa…. Rhodesia was literally an extension of South Africa - a rainbow 🌈 nation on a smaller scale than SA - in 1923 Rhodesia was given the option of either being a Provence of SA or becoming a self governed British colony , meaning , Rhodesia would govern itself without interference from Britain - Rhodesia chose to govern itself … Afrikaans was not an official language in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe - that being the difference with the two countries .
The Zimbabwean lady is not Coloured she is black of mixed ancestry and that is why she couldnt understand the question asked and she couldnt articulate it. Being Coloured is not about ticking boxes. Its an ethnicity which comes with culture. It only exists in South Africa and Namibia. Botswana, Zimbabwe, Lesotho and Swaziland dont have Coloureds they just have mixed people who are tswana, Sotho, Swati or Zim. There's a difference. The lady in the Cargo is Coloured and that is why she could easily articulate her explanation.
3:52 WRONG!!! Ethiopia or as it known before WWII Abyssinia was colonized heavily. Its actually one of the most colonized regions of the world. Dont believe the none sense "Ethiopians" say they were never colonized in every breath. Because lies are repeated so often it doesn't magically turn it to be the truth.
😮 Thanks for that! I didn't know Ethiopia was colonised. I know they were occupied by Italy under Mussolini's rule but had no idea they were colonised. Who colonised Ethiopia?
In 1936, Ethiopia was occupied by Fascist Italy and annexed with Italian-possessed Eritrea and Somaliland, later forming Italian East Africa. In 1941, during World War II, it was occupied by the British Army, and its full sovereignty was restored in 1944 after a period of military administration. So it was never colonized. They stayed for few years and were pushed out of the country
Is there coloured in Zimbabwe. I don't think this lady from Zimbabwe understand what coloured mean. The South African explain it right nit Zimbabwean one
@@W2024-d6e There are Coloureds in most if not all Southern African countries but i think only SA and Namibia have actual coloured communities due to apartheid. In Namibia they mostly call themselves 'Basters.'
@@beeew-z5t Ask yourself, where does this idea of classifying African people as black comes from? Who were the South Africans before they were known as 'black people'?
That young lady gave a good explanation about coloured people. I am colored in my late sixtys and remember the apartheid system like it was yesterday we still have a long way to go. I regard my family as the United Nations of South Africa. My ancestary is black, white, colored and Indian. But having such articulate young people gives me hope.
@@helenevice6920 that description has more to do with ancestry and nothing else , and that is not your identity
Your identity is tied to your father's lineage, where he's forefathers came from and who they are
It's a shame people do not know the difference
And you're not colored
The system has messed with you guy's ,
No one in Africa, goes around saying , am black
But you can say you're indian , Caucasian, Arab etc
Because they're not indigenous to Africa
We indigenous people, do not term ourselves any other than our tribe
This lady explained being coloured very well kudos to her❤. People fail to explain this most times
Bernice explained "Coloured" eloquently. 👌🏾💯
The beautiful brown lady with cargo denim she nailed it
Very informative discussion, I am coloured and this will definitely help with this misconception of our race.
I hope the woman in denim is an activist.I love that she has no fear & speaks the truth of what is happening in SA
It’s steal interesting to hear other peoples opinions and experiences 😊
The brother from Ghana still has much to learn and truly grasp the profound impact of systemic injustices and how their legacy continues to shape and affect future generations.
Beautiful content. I love the diversity of viewpoints and voices. Eye opening!
Glad you enjoyed it! More to come
The denim lady is so smart❤
There are people of african decent like the griekwa,kiruna,whom call coloured
Yes… a lot are mixed with other races. A lot of black South Africans also have this heritage…
Beautiful topic and well done to the panel. I however wanted to ask when one of the ladies explained that some of them can't identify with being black because they don't relate with black people as some are a generation of mixed race to mixed race. So if that is true, how or why is it so easy for the same people (again I mean some and not all) to identify with being Khoi/San/Nama/Khoekhoe/etc. and not Black? That is where I truly find myself confused with this topic. I am happy though that we are educating our people on this topic
I think the culture has perhaps been maintained through the generations. Some coloured people speak Zulu or Xhosa at home too. It just depends on your family. But others have absolutely no African heritage. Mixed with Indian and Arab or white and Malaysian… those are the ones who don’t have any premise for identifying as black
@@RastaAfricanGentleman My personal opinion is this, as a black you have your culture e.g Zulu, Xhosa etc. As a coloured person, some of us only started our historical heritage journey recently. That include DNA, archives from one province to the other to gather that information. It took us 5 years as a family to get records dated back to 1901. Some records stated that from my maternal side we are Hottentot and Bantu. My dad side creole from Madagascar. However final analysis or result concluded that we are predominantly Khoi. The Khoi and San people has been through the most. Rape, genocide committed against them, hunted down like animals and ostrised. Events that is not even in our History books. My ancestors are a forgotten people. I made it a point to educate my children, nephews and nieces. My ancestors needs to be honoured because they have paved the way for us. I will not let them be ignorant, when it comes to the family history ever again. Our parents were quite about the past injustices and I will not be silent. I would like to emulate that pride of my heritage like the black folks. We are all African ultimately and need to embrace our differences. Apartheid was meant to break us, but it fostered a whole new culture that I will embrace as a coloured
It's a cultural thing. Black South Africans still have all their ancestral languages, customs and social structures intact. Within the Khoisan groups it's essentially only the Nama and San people who's cultures "survived". The rest were all assimilated.
@@claudettegroep7690 agreed 💯 children need to know the history in full so it does not repeat
Not all coloured people are mixed the same.
Where else is this available on? Possibly on TikTok? I would like to share this!
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Last night the algorithm on TT showed me Polynesian people. The first video was of a guy who was singing beautifully, what's being sung in the coloured community - i.e, golden oldies. Upon reading the comments, it lead me to realise that the guy and the group he was with are in fact NOT coloured people! They LOOKED coloured in every aspect! I couldn't believe my eyes that they in fact weren't!
It was a different experience to the "Brazil" and other experiences I've come across previously.
It will take time to move forward , why we as SA people still stay separated . We meet at work at school , that's it .
Coloured people are mixed race, if we're going by the English definition of race, which is defined as physical charasterics such as skin colour. But, in SA, you kind of blend race and ethnicity/nationality into one. So, coloured is a mixed person with a blend of European white and black African, or other.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Not really. There are coloureds who are not mixed. Like Bennie McCarthy, black as hell, but he is coloured.
@@justicetshovhota3940 buddy, I know how genetic works, just cuz daddy is white and mummy is black doesn't mean the kid will come out mix. So let me ask you, what part of my statement is "not really" the answer?
@@Lovelee95There are numerous fully black and Indian people who reclassified as coloured during apartheid. Similarly numerous "undesirable whites" got classified as coloured. Literally became an issue that was discussed in parliament in 1986.
@@justicetshovhota3940I think his parents settled in the coloured community but they're black.
Mixed race(bi-racial) = White parent + Black parent. Coloured = Multiracial parents ,grandparents,great grand parents,great great grand parents etc = Multigenerational. Every coloured genetics is different from the other , for that reason its been determined its the most diverse in the world. All races in one person. In my case 16 ethnicities. Most coloureds does not know that fact. Your looks will detemined your heritage,indian,chinese , khoi /San etc. Coloured can look like any race in the world. Coloureds come into existence in 1652 when the settlers brought the slaves to SA from Madagascar,St.Helena,Maurituis, China, India , Indonesia and North Africa, All these intermingle with each other and the settlers and indigenuis Khoi and San = COLOURED
Why not we have just one. Mixed or Colored. It appears colored identity is just more than one generation of a mixed race. Essentially, a colored person is mixed but not vice versa. Isn’t that just making it complex? And how do you identify a mixed race from a colored race visually? Not much difference I suppose
It is something only coloured can be able to do. I have encountered many mixed race people and from the first look I could see they are rather mixed with different race parents.There is just something amiss. Any coloured can testify to that.@@Abebeeeeeee
@@AbebeeeeeeeYes Coloured people can be 3-5 generations are mixed race lineage but you must not have listened to this video, this woman at time 6:00 explained everything accurately about what Coloured people are. One cannot come centuries later and try to reclassify a whole ethnic group to suit your narrative with layers of historic lineage, she emphasized it has nothing about skin tone shade and all about a unique South African Coloured culture. Mixed race sometimes can be loosely used for both biracial and Coloured people but to simplify things, mixed race is biracial as explained above. Again you'll be disrespecting a whole community of Coloured people and their culture by forcing your own beliefs onto them. Please avoid doing that.
@@AbebeeeeeeeTo us it's not complicated. We existed before current bi-racials. We were bi-racials and mixed and ended up multi-generationally mixed.
Yhea I could tell the lady with the green top is not from here , but. Surprise in Zimbabwe and Botswana it's like south Africa
even the guy looks west african..not sure
She actually not South African. And for the first time I hear there is coloured in Zimbabwe
@@berengsello5645 Rhodesia/Zimbabwe had integral colonial ties with white South Africa…. Rhodesia was literally an extension of South Africa - a rainbow 🌈 nation on a smaller scale than SA - in 1923 Rhodesia was given the option of either being a Provence of SA or becoming a self governed British colony , meaning , Rhodesia would govern itself without interference from Britain - Rhodesia chose to govern itself … Afrikaans was not an official language in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe - that being the difference with the two countries .
When were the races demolished?We still forced to tick boxes
The Zimbabwean lady is not Coloured she is black of mixed ancestry and that is why she couldnt understand the question asked and she couldnt articulate it. Being Coloured is not about ticking boxes. Its an ethnicity which comes with culture. It only exists in South Africa and Namibia. Botswana, Zimbabwe, Lesotho and Swaziland dont have Coloureds they just have mixed people who are tswana, Sotho, Swati or Zim. There's a difference. The lady in the Cargo is Coloured and that is why she could easily articulate her explanation.
3:52 WRONG!!! Ethiopia or as it known before WWII Abyssinia was colonized heavily. Its actually one of the most colonized regions of the world.
Dont believe the none sense "Ethiopians" say they were never colonized in every breath. Because lies are repeated so often it doesn't magically turn it to be the truth.
😮 Thanks for that! I didn't know Ethiopia was colonised. I know they were occupied by Italy under Mussolini's rule but had no idea they were colonised. Who colonised Ethiopia?
In 1936, Ethiopia was occupied by Fascist Italy and annexed with Italian-possessed Eritrea and Somaliland, later forming Italian East Africa. In 1941, during World War II, it was occupied by the British Army, and its full sovereignty was restored in 1944 after a period of military administration. So it was never colonized. They stayed for few years and were pushed out of the country
Please let's read history with an intention of curiosity. 🙏
Is there coloured in Zimbabwe. I don't think this lady from Zimbabwe understand what coloured mean. The South African explain it right nit Zimbabwean one
There are coloured people in Zimbabwe. There are coloured people in many African countries, especially those that were colonised.
@berengsello5645 no we are colorless in Zimbabwe 🤡
@@W2024-d6e There are Coloureds in most if not all Southern African countries but i think only SA and Namibia have actual coloured communities due to apartheid. In Namibia they mostly call themselves 'Basters.'
9:15 Now you see what you just did!
You confused 'African' with 'Black'.
How so? It’s accurate in the SA context.
@@beeew-z5t Ask yourself, where does this idea of classifying African people as black comes from?
Who were the South Africans before they were known as 'black people'?