Troubled History of Zimbabwe's Coloureds 'Mixed Race' People

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @bingetheater6804
    @bingetheater6804 Год назад +8

    Interesting... As a Coloured S.African I met 3 coloureds from Zim... but at the end of the day I was born here in Africa.

  • @Naniso
    @Naniso 3 года назад +9

    I thank my people for liking and commenting on these videos because it landed on my recommendations. Can’t wait to binge watch all your work!

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  3 года назад

      Thank you, much appreciated

  • @carolabrahams698
    @carolabrahams698 3 года назад +55

    Thanks. Very good attempt at the coloured history but there are some statements that are just not true and need to be explained. The Cape Coloureds who came through were skilled artisans and teachers and nurses who taught in schools and hospitals for coloured people. Alot of coloured people also went for training to Cape Town for teaching training and nursing school and universities. There are stories, if you would interview some of these families, that speaks of coloured children from black mother's and white fathers who were taken away by the government and sent to institutions/ orphanages run by the Catholic nuns, in Bulawayo i.e. Bushtik for babies and young children under apalling conditions. The infamous Embakwe, a boarding school in Plumtree. My own grandfather was a carpenter from the Cape working for a South African company called E.W. Tarry. He picked up his wife in Kimberley and settled in Shabani. They had 3 young children aged 7, 4 and 2. His wife died, so he married another lady with 2 children from Kimberley purely because he wanted someone who would continue to grow his children in the cultural and traditions and customs of our family.. They had a child together. My grandfather fell over and died of the Great Influenza Pandemic in 1914. He stopped outside his front door after work with his donkey drawn cart and just slumped over and died in the drivers seat. My Father who was 4 years old witnessed this and related this story to me... he remembers seeing loads of bodies piled up on the back of donkey carts, they had died from the influenza pandemic.
    Because his second wife could not afford to raise 6 children on her own the 3 step children were handed over to the government who found homes who were willing to take them in, the term he used is they were each "indentured" to separate people which is a bond servant where you have shelter and food as long as you work for them for no wages. He was separated from his siblings ~ and he worked in the kitchen in the home of a judge. He was a kitchen boy assisting the black cook who used to beat him up until at the age of 7 he ran away.
    Every one has a story about their ancestors and how they came to be Zimbabwean ~ I would not see things as Blacks, Whites, Coloureds and Indians. Everything has cohesion and we all needed each other at some point in our lives. There's a sense that privilege was a given but let me tell you many people had to fight for things like being recognised as worthy subjects of the land with as much guts and intelligence to be able to get the job done. All our lives we've strived to be all we were able to aspire to so I don't agree with the notion that we were all entitled and privileged as a people group. Our community integrated with all people groups very well and were not a bunch of "drunken, dagga smoking fighters" as is often projected by uninformed biased judgemental people - stereotyping! You have to know our history and understand how we pulled together inspite of our varied differences and how we've overcome the visible and invisible barriers set up by regimes both old and new. We are true passionate patriots who love our country and it's time you accepted us and embraced our people who are just as much a part of the land as your early settlers from the North and South. No country is of one kind, type or colour of people... there should be NO divisions as the colonialists established ... it's time those racial tags are abolished and re-educate people to see and understand and see us as one people who hold true to the same dreams and desires for our lives, for the future of our families. No one is going to make it happen unless we hold hands across the divisions and reunite as one people.
    ✊ A luta Continua ✊
    Together WE Are Stronger !!!

    • @MsREDDEVIL2
      @MsREDDEVIL2 3 года назад +3

      Well said. Thank you for your story. It is 100% as I've heard the story of kids going to Embakwe etc. Was it Mr Plant who went about collecting all the coloured children from the villages?

    • @tombimashri8149
      @tombimashri8149 3 года назад +10

      @@MsREDDEVIL2 and also a scottish lady who visited zimbabwe as holiday nd took pity on the coloured children who were scattered all over some not attending school etc this lady took pity she was a wealthy scots she herself had one son. This lady was cald Mrs Hele Mcghie she than built a school nd an orphanage in Masvingo(which was Fort Victoria at the time) sge went around collecting these coloured children keeping them in this orphanage nd school, fought with the than government to give social assistance to these children to at least get an education(which wasn t up to intellectual level beleive that was white ruling in them days, lster missionarys were also sent to build schools teach the coloureds but not up to intellectual level, just teach them to level where they can mingle in society that is why majority male were artisans, mechanics, plumber,elect etc the women typists switchboard operators, shop assistants etc, majority raised in homes or orphanages with no family unit. The Black suffered too yes but at least they had nd were raised by their parents had family unit nd parents love, which majority coloureds never had, they were brought up under dictstorship in these homes etc). Going back to Ms Helen Mcghie, she took good care of the coloured children whom she took pity of their predicament, these were innocent children who were brought in2 this world in wars, some cases rape, lust in business deals etc etc. That school nd orphanafe is still functional in Masvingo to this day. GOD BLESS HER SOUL MS HELEN Mcghie.
      Coloured people have faced mental torture nd pain all their lives, they v never had a voice they v alwYs had to do whatever they r told by the rulers this goes on to this day
      Voloureds need to tell their own story

    • @AllHope23
      @AllHope23 3 года назад +3

      You guys have been through a lot. The history of abuse explains why certain people turn out to match the stereotypes. Your society seriously needs to breathe, I guess i have to be kinder to my coloured friends.

    • @drewgirard4887
      @drewgirard4887 3 года назад +8

      Thank you all for sharing your stories. I had the fortune of going to school with several Coloured students at Saint John's High in Harare, many of whom became friends of mine. The coloured community was discriminated against by the Rhodesian government and has been woefully neglected by Zanu pf since 1980.
      Their history is not taught, so most Zimbabweans do not know their struggle. As black Zimbabweans we should recognize that coloureds are both African and part of the country whether they are the products of mixed relationships or came from the Cape. The only sad thing is that many do not know Shona or Ndebele because they were never taught as children. I only came to this realization after moving to America and seeing how united the black people are here. Here there is no division between black and 'mixed' people because everyone knows they are one because the history of racism and segregation. We Zimbabweans must work to do better.

    • @ferwallace1903
      @ferwallace1903 2 года назад +2

      Well said!!!!

  • @Cruise465
    @Cruise465 3 года назад +11

    Cool video. I’m based in the USA and your video was recommended to me. subscribed

  • @RafaelDeGoncalves
    @RafaelDeGoncalves Год назад +20

    in Angola we are called "mestiço" (mestizo) and I'm friends with coloureds from Zambia and Namibia.

    • @headhonchotheone9041
      @headhonchotheone9041 Год назад

      Interesting I'm assuming you from luanda

    • @joe_lubinda
      @joe_lubinda Год назад +2

      Rafa what are you doing here 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 Год назад

      I knew a few white Angolans in Cape Town but they were pretty brown. I don’t know if they were white or mestizo.

    • @gideonmoseri4850
      @gideonmoseri4850 Год назад +4

      @@chesterdonnelly1212 the Portuguese mixed a lot with Native people in Angola and Mozambique so most "White" Angolans who were in Angola for generations is possible they have blood from those countries

    • @MaceSharpley
      @MaceSharpley 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@joe_lubinda wasn't expecting to find you guys here 😂😂

  • @andro7862
    @andro7862 3 года назад +23

    I love your videos, you're like the African version of Asianometry. Look forward to seeing more videos of colonial Zimbabwe/Rhodesia.

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  3 года назад +2

      Thank you, much appreciated, will definitely do more

    • @vm5954
      @vm5954 Год назад

      Emmerson may not be wrong

  • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
    @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 3 года назад +29

    Very enlightening. Although I think "coloured" is considered an appropriate term here in Zimbabwe.
    Nice to hear about the history.

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  3 года назад +2

      Thanks

    • @karlrensburg3472
      @karlrensburg3472 2 года назад +8

      I am a third generation coloured Zimbabwean. And we are proud of our race. We are not offended by the name. As the white man called it colour- red. Because of our skin colour at a certain time of the day looked red. Brown man is another term less commonly used. The worst case was not being included in Zimbabwe agendas. Good informative video however. 👍

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 2 года назад

      @Sean Emzeey whatever it's routes are it doesn't have the same meaning as it originally did. Zimbabwean coloureds embrace their colouredness and wouldn't want to be called anything else. Meaning change through history. That's why black Americans call themselves n*gger and even women call themselves b*itches. They've taken those horrible names out of their original meanings and changed them and embraced them. So if what you're saying about coloureds is true, then the meaning has clearly changed too

    • @cjkftable
      @cjkftable 2 года назад

      I think coloured is not appropriate no matter how hard certain communities try their best to embrace the term. Here in UK, I often find my fellow people who associated themselves with the term struggling with this. I think at times, when in Zim, there is an assumption that this is closer to being white. Here if your blood has black in it, you are black. I think as a people, it is a high time we see each other as equal rather that some communities assuming that being a % white gives them that leverage. It is only when one travels abroad that they realise that they gotta embrace their dual heritage. Me included.

    • @RafaelDeGoncalves
      @RafaelDeGoncalves Год назад

      @@cjkftable no one cares about the UK, Zimbos are okay with it this is about ZIMBABWE not the UK.

  • @juelvanhaekruder8274
    @juelvanhaekruder8274 3 года назад +10

    Love your videos, bro.
    I'm from Angola. 🇦🇴

  • @nilavansinnathamby9150
    @nilavansinnathamby9150 2 года назад +9

    Thank you so much about this history of coloureds 🙏🏽 its very intresting on how they came along and the history and origin. And I enjoy your videos keep up the hard work.

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  2 года назад +2

      Glad you liked the video

  • @bernardhacking7462
    @bernardhacking7462 Год назад +8

    I had a few coloured mates and loved them for their carefree attitude and sense of humour with an amazibg ability to laugh at themselves. Lovely people 😊😊

    • @ursulapechey1706
      @ursulapechey1706 Год назад

      Thank you 🙏

    • @NKiani
      @NKiani Год назад +1

      Gosh. So you admire their coping mechanisms. Have you no empathy? Actually don’t answer. I already know the answer

  • @MetaphysicalExplorations
    @MetaphysicalExplorations 2 года назад +21

    Coloureds (Afrikaans: Kleurlinge or Bruinmense, lit. 'Brown people') are a multiracial ethnic group native to Southern Africa who have ancestry from more than one of the various populations inhabiting the region, including Khoisan, Bantu, European, Austronesian, South Asian, or East Asian. Because of the combination of ethnicities, different families and individuals within a family may have a variety of different physical features.

    • @rojamillerover
      @rojamillerover 2 года назад +6

      We are talking about Zimbabwean coloureds not South African coloureds

    • @imaafrikaaner4669
      @imaafrikaaner4669 2 года назад +4

      @@rojamillerover nvm it's says southern africa not south africa 🇿🇦 so the definition goes to all coloured southern africans

    • @rojamillerover
      @rojamillerover 2 года назад +3

      @@imaafrikaaner4669 well that's certainly not true for Zimbabwean coloureds

    • @techmansa
      @techmansa 3 месяца назад

      literally the best of all worlds.

    • @techmansa
      @techmansa 3 месяца назад

      ​@@rojamilleroverits still the same, unless you were there and saw who was shagging?

  • @etinashmoyo
    @etinashmoyo Год назад +7

    thank you brother i am coloured and still tracing my roots,my grandfather was a missionary in Rhodesia and my dad was born in 1960 in a place called Mwanezi under chief Mazetese,,,,,my DNA results says 33% of it is Italian

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  Год назад

      Nice to know, I surely hope you find your family

    • @MosesNdlovu-rg5bb
      @MosesNdlovu-rg5bb Год назад

      I know that place

    • @soniaandrews4311
      @soniaandrews4311 Год назад

      ​@ZimTechGuy hi, I just wondered where the photo at 4.12 was obtained from? My reason for asking is, that photo is of children in Zambia in probably around 1965 and wondered if you had the permission of the owner of the photo to use it? The children in that photo were ALL from settled, second generation mixed-race families in Zambia. I'm not in anyway disputing any of your other information or sources, it's just that including this photo, which is of children from a different generation in a different country may call into question the credibility of the information and your sources.
      May I make the humble suggestion that you consider removing it.....

  • @danremenyi1179
    @danremenyi1179 3 года назад +13

    You deserve a lot more views than you are getting......................... Thanks I found that informative.

  • @ursulapechey1706
    @ursulapechey1706 Год назад +7

    I love this video. Me being coloured is happy to hear that people are actually acknowledging that we exist. It wasnt even discussed before. 🙏👏👏

  • @saysaym1221
    @saysaym1221 2 года назад +6

    whilst the children were left with their black mothers, it was illegal for their black mothers to have their coloured children. The children ended up in orphanages or living with other coloured families. segregation was reinforced time and time again

    • @michaelmashayahanya6281
      @michaelmashayahanya6281 2 года назад

      Yet your people sided with the racist whites then. And still do till today. Did your people not fight alongside the Rhodesian army against he freedom fighters back then? When did a coloured speak out against Ian Smith's racist govt? Yet you want the full privileges our ancestors fought and died for today. That's what I fucking hate about you people. You only want to be black when you get abused or ill treated by the whites. But you detest and hate your African heritage. Funny thing is the whites hate you just as much as they hate us. Stay with them, we don't need or want you.

  • @kana75
    @kana75 2 года назад +10

    Very interesting! As a Congolese woman, we also have descendants of "mixed couple" from the colonization times, who are lighter than most black people here. However it is not as the same extent of Zimbabwe. It also makes one think about african american being united despite the shade of their blackness and their mixed origins. I really wonder how come it is still not quite the same in Southern Africa. Because whether you are coloured or "full black", all I see is black people...

    • @richlisola1
      @richlisola1 Год назад +3

      Because the reality is Coloured people have their own culture-And the reality is this, whenever you’re mixed race-However, you define your identity is in a sense a fiction. So pick your fiction. Black solidarity, begging for whiteness, or a “Coloured culture.”

    • @shuggasmaxxmufasa108
      @shuggasmaxxmufasa108 Год назад

      Thank you I really wish they saw it that way here in Southern Africa please if you can please be clear enough to the ones in Zimbabwe in the city of Harare in the neighbourhood of Arcadia please explain how it isn’t something to be proud of to be classified “ coloured” when we are all just one please🙏🏾

    • @MaceSharpley
      @MaceSharpley 9 месяцев назад +3

      It's about culture too. We don't live the same lives as black people and many black people here in Zambia (I'm a Zambian coloured) don't and would never consider us black, not out of hatred but because we just aren't the same.

    • @kana75
      @kana75 9 месяцев назад

      @@MaceSharpley thank you for explaining!

  • @severtone263
    @severtone263 3 года назад +7

    Great research buddy! You just earned my sub. Now heading to your patreon.

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  3 года назад

      Thank you so much, I appreciate that

  • @GraceRuffy
    @GraceRuffy 2 месяца назад

    I love Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 always
    Thank you so much for these History lessons

  • @Torres158
    @Torres158 2 года назад +3

    Very informative video. Thanks

  • @Monomukundu
    @Monomukundu 3 года назад +4

    Great job,& well researched

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  3 года назад

      Thank you, much appreciated

  • @awakeningEmpath
    @awakeningEmpath 3 года назад +9

    same racist wickedness in every colony, interesting documentary for me as a Mixed race Brit, one of my closest friends is Mixed race from Zim, I’m sure he’ll have a lot to say about this

    • @dreamdiction
      @dreamdiction 2 года назад +1

      So where are the comments from your mixed friend from Zim?

    • @AnthonyD-yy2in
      @AnthonyD-yy2in 2 года назад +2

      I'm half English and half Zimbabwean. I was born and raised in England. I would like to see all the mixed race people who left Zimbabwe over the last 30 years or so, to return to Zimbabwe and form a stronger community than ever before. God willing.

  • @drewgirard4887
    @drewgirard4887 3 года назад +9

    Thank you all for who have shared their stories. I had the fortune of going to school with several Coloured students at Saint John's High in Harare, many of whom became friends of mine. The coloured community was discriminated against by the Rhodesian government and has been woefully neglected by Zanu pf since 1980.
    Their history is not taught in schools and few Coloureds are in the media (Andy Brown is all I can remember), so most Zimbabweans do not know their struggle and see them as a privileged minority, because they mostly live in town and are English-speaking.
    This could not be further from the truth. As black Zimbabweans, we should recognize that coloureds are both African and part of the country whether they are the products of mixed relationships or came from the Cape. The only sad thing is that many do not know Shona or Ndebele because they were never taught as children. I only came to this realization after moving to America and seeing how united the black people are here. Here there is no division between black and 'mixed' people because everyone knows they are one because the history of racism and segregation. We Zimbabweans must work to do better.

    • @shanewalkingdead8258
      @shanewalkingdead8258 2 года назад +3

      Don't use the term black there are people who take offense to that word like calling asian people yellow. I remember when i was in grade 2 by tynwald i got slapped by the heard master mr munjere for calling another student black. So leave me out of your biracial/ black issues not my problem.

    • @cc35506
      @cc35506 2 года назад +1

      Andy Brown was a muzukuru not a coloured per say. Half black half white who grew up in Masvingo rural areas. Thats why he was a pure Shona speaker. Different from the Zim or South African coloureds who only have children within their coloured community for generations and cannot pin point who their white or black ancestors were.

    • @shanewalkingdead8258
      @shanewalkingdead8258 2 года назад +2

      @@cc35506 No . He looks coloured , sounds coloured so he is coloured. Not my problem. Please donot use the term black a good amount of people in Zimbabwe take offense to that word just like how asians hate the word yellow use terms like shona or ndebele or tswana.

    • @imaafrikaaner4669
      @imaafrikaaner4669 2 года назад

      @@cc35506 speaking as coloured south africans we marry outside our races as well. That's we the world most mixed raced people 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @tombimashri8149
      @tombimashri8149 2 года назад

      ​@@imaafrikaaner4669 It shouldn t matter who u marry, every race has choice who they marry why should coloureds be shunned who they marry. whether coloured Marty's black or white they still are coloured ND their children will be mixed. Andy Brown was coloured who loved his coloured ND Blacks who both were his family. The whole united nations should stop shunning mixed race people ND instead accept them after all they were brought to this planet by all united nations, coloureds did not ask to be born but it happened. Embrace coloured many will be an asset get to know them instead of shunning them. coloureds did not go to white schools or white hospitals, they went to coloured schools ND coloured hospitals until Rhodesia became Zimbabwe

  • @muchineripichirenje4328
    @muchineripichirenje4328 3 года назад +6

    Hello I have enjoyed to watch some of your clips. Can you please turn English subtitle on? I can’t hear so I rely on English subtitle. Thank you very much mate

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  3 года назад

      Will do, thanks for the feedback!

  • @samtenban
    @samtenban 3 года назад +6

    Thanks for putting this together, good job

  • @stanleygambiza9096
    @stanleygambiza9096 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Mukoma for the history

  • @angusyates828
    @angusyates828 Год назад +2

    Interesting, history not dissimilar to Australia during colonial times.

  • @龍天-y4k
    @龍天-y4k 2 года назад +2

    Yes, 'Coloured' was true in Rhodesia. In Salisbury, Arcadia was 'Coloured' and so was Morgan High. I don't know about any other settlements.
    Edit: I played sports against Morgan and I was directly connected to Morgan through one of their teachers. So I think I know how "Coloureds" in Rhodesia felt.

  • @BukalangaTv
    @BukalangaTv 2 года назад +2

    Why mentioning Shona and Ndebele? And excluding Bakalanga who long occupied that land before shona and Ndebele and british

    • @NKiani
      @NKiani Год назад

      I think they include vaKaranga in the Shona tribes as well as it is a dialect within Shona 😊

    • @IB_info
      @IB_info Год назад

      Shona is not a tribe, it's combination of several tribes just like Ngoni

  • @surendersingal2192
    @surendersingal2192 2 года назад

    Very good story with deeper peek into I maritalvrelatilnships.

  • @ChecXYkitout
    @ChecXYkitout 3 года назад +2

    Interesting video.

    • @carolabrahams698
      @carolabrahams698 3 года назад

      Thanks. Very good attempt at the coloured history but there are some statements that are just not true and need to be explained. The Cape Coloureds who came through were skilled artisans and teachers and nurses who taught in schools and hospitals for coloured people. Alot of coloured people also went for training to Cape Town for teaching training and nursing school and universities. There are stories, if you would interview some of these families, that speaks of coloured children from black mother's and white fathers who were taken away by the government and sent to institutions/ orphanages run by the Catholic nuns, in Bulawayo i.e. Bushtik for babies and young children under apalling conditions. The infamous Embakwe, a boarding school in Plumtree. My own grandfather was a carpenter from the Cape working for a South African company called E.W. Tarry. He picked up his wife in Kimberley and settled in Shabani. They had 3 young children aged 7, 4 and 2. His wife died, so he married another lady with 2 children from Kimberley purely because he wanted someone who would continue to grow his children in the cultural and traditions and customs of our family.. They had a child together. My grandfather fell over and died of the Great Influenza Pandemic in 1914. He stopped outside his front door after work with his donkey drawn cart and just slumped over and died in the drivers seat. My Father who was 4 years old witnessed this and related this story to me... he remembers seeing loads of bodies piled up on the back of donkey carts, they had died from the influenza pandemic.
      Because his second wife could not afford to raise 6 children on her own the 3 step children were handed over to the government who found homes who were willing to take them in, the term he used is they were each "indentured" to separate people which is a bond servant where you have shelter and food as long as you work for them for no wages. He was separated from his siblings ~ and he worked in the kitchen in the home of a judge. He was a kitchen boy assisting the black cook who used to beat him up until at the age of 7 he ran away.
      Every one has a story about their ancestors and how they came to be Zimbabwean ~ I would not see things as Blacks, Whites, Coloureds and Indians. Everything has cohesion and we all needed each other at some point in our lives. There's a sense that privilege was a given but let me tell you many people had to fight for things like being recognised as worthy subjects of the land with as much guts and intelligence to be able to get the job done. All our lives we've strived to be all we were able to aspire to so I don't agree with the notion that we were all entitled and privileged as a people group. Our community integrated with all people groups very well and were not a bunch of "drunken, dagga smoking fighters" as is often projected by uninformed biased judgemental people - stereotyping! You have to know our history and understand how we pulled together inspite of our varied differences and how we've overcome the visible and invisible barriers set up by regimes both old and new. We are true passionate patriots who love our country and it's time you accepted us and embraced our people who are just as much a part of the land as your early settlers from the North and South. No country is of one kind, type or colour of people... there should be NO divisions as the colonialists established ... it's time those racial tags are abolished and re-educate people to see and understand and see us as one people who hold true to the same dreams and desires for our lives, for the future of our families. No one is going to make it happen unless we hold hands across the divisions and reunite as one people.
      ✊ A luta Continua ✊
      Together WE Are Stronger !!!

  • @gcgc3651
    @gcgc3651 3 года назад +5

    We need more videos like this

  • @ethanbaboon4535
    @ethanbaboon4535 Год назад

    if you don't mind me asking where did you get the information for this video? (when researching the coloured community in Zim I have been struggling to find legitimate and proper sources.)

  • @cyler01
    @cyler01 Год назад

    wild. one of ny ancestors was a baron from germany, another a lieutenant for britain. and apparently, my aboriginal ancestors got special treatment because of it. the baron married her, he even wanted to take her and their kids to germany, but her family refused.
    so he left her. we still have a letter in the family that legitimizes our line

  • @AnthonyD-yy2in
    @AnthonyD-yy2in 21 день назад

    I simply prefer to call myself a light skinned black person.. or just simply black British.
    I'm half English and half Zimbabwean.. 👍

  • @feyfey5678
    @feyfey5678 2 года назад +4

    But I still don't understand how they became a community and disatached from their African side am sure tthe Africa women didn't abandoned their kids

    • @SthandwaM
      @SthandwaM Год назад +1

      Yes! This is what I was hoping to learn more about... How they developed into their own community (separate from their black mothers) with their own culture, accent and colloquialisms or coloured slang.

    • @frankwilson396
      @frankwilson396 Год назад +3

      For the generations that were born and raised during the Rhodesian times it's either because the coloureds were taken away from their parents and placed into these so called orphanages some people have come up with theories suggesting it was to brain wash them and place them in jobs and sectors that the whites did not want black people to be in but the whites did not want to carry out these jobs and to reduce the interaction between the coloureds and blacks they were then confined to certain areas. A lot of documentation was either destroyed or falsified if it was indeed carried out at all.
      Remember that one of the tactics of colonisation is divide to conquer. I grew up with a white father and black mother I remember having a coloured friend who's grandfather told us about how he grew up in orphanages and he did not know anything about his mother and father and all records of him got lost his birth certificate did not have a mother or father's name on it but it did have a date of birth on it

    • @fionasmith6868
      @fionasmith6868 Год назад +1

      ​@@frankwilson396 Rubbish .

    • @lucyjuicy2657
      @lucyjuicy2657 4 месяца назад

      Coloured kids were removed by the government from their parents in the whole southern african region and placed in orphanages or reserves. There are 14 reserves still in South Africa alone today. It was illegal to have a child of mixed origin.

    • @lucyjuicy2657
      @lucyjuicy2657 4 месяца назад

      Coloured kids were removed by the government from their parents in the whole southern african region and placed in orphanages or reserves. There are 14 reserves still in South Africa alone today. It was illegal to have a child of mixed origin.

  • @tseyazmutseyami1402
    @tseyazmutseyami1402 3 года назад +3

    Haaa mune nharo chibaba💥

  • @foxbat473
    @foxbat473 3 года назад +15

    Coloreds should be given the same opportunities

    • @tombimashri8149
      @tombimashri8149 3 года назад +4

      True, coloureds to this day are left out scholarships they barely given infact everything they are left out. I have many coloured relatives nd I sympathise with them, if God Blessed me with wealth I would surely help them nd even in further education etc.

    • @foxbat473
      @foxbat473 3 года назад +1

      @@tombimashri8149 they are a part of life and history of Zimbabwe

    • @elizabethcorven3599
      @elizabethcorven3599 3 года назад +2

      @@tombimashri8149The majority of Coloured people know how to look after themselves. They succeed in life and live well. They dont hide from who they are, why should they? And, they consider themselves a 4th (mixed) race, the "coloured people". I identify as Coloured. Just like in any race, those who complain are just covering up drug/alcohol dependence, laziness or other issues which they refuse to or are not yet ready to tackle and move on to prosperity. I must thank the British Government for providing for the Coloured people, for giving us a very good education in private schools, and more than a fair chance at success in life. I live aboard so I dont know what its like now, for Coloured people, under the Zim Government. Thank you Zim Tech Guy for your quality videos.

  • @dondolomhlaba8438
    @dondolomhlaba8438 Год назад

    Mike Abraham's Mabhulugwana used to play for Arcadia United

  • @GraceRuffy
    @GraceRuffy 2 месяца назад

    The colonialists had children locally
    I just wish everyone would appreciate their colour bcz sometimes we look down on black side of the genetics 😢🇿🇼

  • @louistaderera2433
    @louistaderera2433 7 месяцев назад

    correction: the appropriate name is Vazukuru.... as they are from the sisters. African relational labels are based on bloodlines.

  • @ashburn50
    @ashburn50 2 года назад +1

    I absolutely love listening to your content.

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  2 года назад

      Thanks you, I really appreciate that

  • @manfredmash8504
    @manfredmash8504 2 года назад +3

    Shona is not a tribe , when making reference to tribes do not use a collective term esp one that was used by colonizers

    • @rodneynyamutswa5267
      @rodneynyamutswa5267 2 года назад +1

      i suggest he does a video on the origins of the collective term Shona and another one on why the people of Manicaland are pigeonholed into being called Manyika yet the only Manyika people in province are Chief Mutasa's subjects

    • @manfredmash8504
      @manfredmash8504 2 года назад

      @@rodneynyamutswa5267 true and the word Shona is a derogatory term which means "to hide" or "to die" , the narrative needs to change

    • @bukkie5084
      @bukkie5084 Год назад

      ​@@manfredmash8504 As in shifty Shona.

    • @blackjewelszw
      @blackjewelszw 29 дней назад

      Lies​@@manfredmash8504

    • @blackjewelszw
      @blackjewelszw 29 дней назад

      Shona is a tribe with different dialects

  • @henrymapfumo5794
    @henrymapfumo5794 Год назад +1

    tell us about the origins of harare`s black townships names

  • @GraceRuffy
    @GraceRuffy 2 месяца назад

    Mugabe was pro Africa
    We went to school in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 with whites coloureds SA Malawi Zambia Angola Mocambique Ghana ❤etc
    But now everyone despises Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 l think it's jealousy from other neighbors who are fighting tooth and nail to derail Zimbabwe 😢

    • @feyfey5678
      @feyfey5678 2 месяца назад

      Mugabe was the worst thinh that happened to Zimbabwe

  • @muchmuleya9651
    @muchmuleya9651 3 года назад +2

    Pratjie Dankie

  • @sinikiwegarutsa-ex1kg
    @sinikiwegarutsa-ex1kg Год назад +1

    They think they are better than us.I àm from Barham Green

  • @ferwallace1903
    @ferwallace1903 2 года назад +5

    It's so sad my community has been marginalized for so long, by Rhodesians, by our African families as well. At the end of the day Zanu pf wants a one race country. But where will we go?

    • @ballinv2452
      @ballinv2452 2 года назад +2

      It is important to understand that there will always be obstacles in life. What you should not do is box them and name them and give life to them. For example I can never be president because I am coloured. This will only make you feel hopeless you can imagine since the block has been established. Rather take on life with a different approach. Know that there will always be obstacles but they do not prohibit flow they just delay. Obstacles can be overcome. With obstacles you also get advantages and rather use your advantage as a spring instead of your obstacles as a crutch. Only with determination can you push through in ever success story every person has had to face adversities and the success is just sweeter because of them. The saying goes haters are gonna hate regardless so do you.

    • @shanewalkingdead8258
      @shanewalkingdead8258 2 года назад +1

      Not my problem you should have thought of that before you traumatised and killed young kids my parents who are gen x who lived in the concentration camps saw enough to come to a conclusion to want absolutely nothing to do with you. Why did you kill infants and toddlers by placing them alive in fire pits . Why where you killing pregnant women and raping young women pretending to fight as a gorilla for zanla and zapu for my biological race to do so. No one made you do it you where hoping for another USA but the Lord i worship and believe said no . You where practicing mass euthanasia. Well the Lancaster house agreement was done the verdict was given for everyone to stay in their biological respectibe race no race pirating and no race transgenders. If you have a problem go to Mugabe's grave or talk with garwe.

    • @ballinv2452
      @ballinv2452 2 года назад

      @@shanewalkingdead8258 why did you do that stuff? You are sick

    • @shanewalkingdead8258
      @shanewalkingdead8258 2 года назад +1

      @@ballinv2452 did you even read my comment at all?. What are you even trying to say I donot understand.

    • @ballinv2452
      @ballinv2452 2 года назад

      @@shanewalkingdead8258 I was trying to understand it

  • @jean-pierredejongh2366
    @jean-pierredejongh2366 Год назад +2

    Coloured is a Southern African term, not a South African term

  • @MaceSharpley
    @MaceSharpley 9 месяцев назад

    I'm a coloured Zambian and our history is similar to the coloured Zimbos cause we were once one colony. After Zambia got independence the government introduced programmes like free education and made sure to block all non black people from accessing them forcing minorities to be business people and today coloured Zambians and other minorities are mainly richer than most black Zambians.
    Another funny thing is the IDs of generational coloureds like me have Queen Elizabeth as our chief and village is london cause home affairs people say we aren't real Zambians 😂😂

  • @JaegerPy
    @JaegerPy 2 года назад

    And now you have me.

  • @arnoldbtful
    @arnoldbtful Год назад +1

    So you are saying coloured people are not locals and should not be given full local right as indigenous peoples

  • @bizz5397
    @bizz5397 2 года назад +3

    Most of the coloureds I know in Zimbabwe don't speak Shona. I don't know if they can't or won't. I've always found this strange. Why do they favour English over Shona yet they are a mixed race. Can someone explain why this is so.

    • @tombimashri8149
      @tombimashri8149 2 года назад +2

      Many mixed race speak Shona especially this from Masvingo, those frm Byo speak Ndebele. it's just like Black children living in the western worlds or younger generations Blacks from wealthy backgrounds many cannot speak African languages nor eat alot of African food they mostly speak only English etc so should they be questioned why they dnt speak African languages from where their parents came from. people need to stop judging coloureds ND accept them let them be. After all coloureds blacks are related ND many more will be born. We all cannot do things exactly the same.

    • @michaelmashayahanya6281
      @michaelmashayahanya6281 2 года назад

      @@tombimashri8149 Coloured lover! Not one of those people feel the same about you.

    • @sana-if7rb
      @sana-if7rb 2 года назад +1

      Depends on the mothers race....some coloured have african mothers, some have european mothers...

    • @RomeoFinance
      @RomeoFinance Год назад

      they're living a identity crisis

    • @IB_info
      @IB_info Год назад

      When a colored has an African mother they do speak Shona but when it's the other way round nope

  • @darianclery4455
    @darianclery4455 Год назад

    The coloured of Zimbabwe is great

  • @niconkola9314
    @niconkola9314 Год назад

    Shona and ndebele iwe unonyep Zimbabwe got different tribes

  • @tombimashri8149
    @tombimashri8149 3 года назад +6

    Coloureds were not allowed to vo to white schools coloureds had their own coloured schools nd whites school was white only until ZIMBABWE came, all nations were open to attend schools of their choice. Zimbabwe was like RSA where segregation was forced, Blacks coloureds, white arears even coloureds were not allowed into Hotels Restaurants etc, i hosputals there were seperste section for whites Blacks, coloureds. We all had to do as we were told by thexthan ruling government. Coloureds have never been given nor allowed choice than and Now if you ask me they are everyone s football.
    Same with housing, houses nd arears were build with same segregation arears for Coloureds, Blacks, whites. Many coloureds were smart nd intelligent but were never given grants or scholarships to study abroad why? Even sports acting, singing athletics but never allowed to excell further. Coloureds were really cheated in life to this day it continues. Coloureds going to the Army was forced they fid not choose to do it, As soon as they completed school they had to do 3year army service before finding a job. It was mandatory no army training no one was allowed to give you a job. X GOD FOR LATE MR NKOMO WHO UNDERSTOOD THEIR PLIGHT ND WOULD INSTRUCT HIS SOLDIERS NOT TO KILL COLOUREDS THEY ARE OUR VAZUKURUS ND they are in bush by force md not by choice. Infact I beleive if Mr Nkomo had become president Coloureds would v been treated better. He knew Coloureds are born victims. I never 4get that. God Rest his soul.

    • @carolabrahams698
      @carolabrahams698 2 года назад +1

      He should have been the President of Zimbabwe. A good man.

    • @michaelmashayahanya6281
      @michaelmashayahanya6281 2 года назад

      Victims? they literally hated blacks, just like their white ancestors. They lived in segregated suburbs in town. Blacks working for whites lived in ghettos without electricity. Is that fair?

  • @Rouks-Glizzy
    @Rouks-Glizzy Год назад +1

    Does those Zim coloureds also speak Afrikaans like us coloureds in 🇿🇦 n Namibia????? Coz guys from zim told me they speak shona..which makes them shonas

    • @fulcrumpith1184
      @fulcrumpith1184 Год назад

      English and a handful speak Afrikaans

    • @NKiani
      @NKiani Год назад

      I doubt it as Zimbabwe was colonised and pillaged by the British not Dutch

    • @IB_info
      @IB_info Год назад +2

      Most of them speak English only

    • @MaceSharpley
      @MaceSharpley 9 месяцев назад

      They speak English just like us coloured Zambians

    • @feyfey5678
      @feyfey5678 2 месяца назад

      English was the official language in rhodesia so they spoke english but some have Afrikaans surnames

  • @niropaxum958
    @niropaxum958 Год назад

    its sort of tragic that they are put in this akward spot

  • @rossitherhodie5659
    @rossitherhodie5659 3 года назад +5

    What happened in Rhodesia before independence cannot be blamed on whites only. Although I agree that mistakes were made, it was Englands laws and constitution that had a problem. I grew up with Africans in the 60's and never saw hatred. It was all about standards and ability to Govern. Before 1950 the whole world had this same problem of mixed races but this all changed. In 1965 the constitution changed to encompass all races. I fought with and were friends with blacks and coloured of all coloursed in fact there were more Africans in the police and army than whites and we were a proud mixed people : MUGABE turned race agaisnt race and look at the country today.
    Some facts:
    Rhodesian Democracy and the 1965 Independence Constitution
    Rhodesia has a written Constitution designed to uphold the democratic rights of all her peoples, and it ensures that the franchise shall be open to members of all races on equal terms.
    The 1961 Constitution, upon which the 1965 Independence Constitution was based, was accepted by a referendum after a conference where all races and all political parties were represented. The conference was convened by the Rhodesia Government, and the delegates met in Salisbury under the chairmanship of the then British Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs, Mr. Duncan Sandys.
    The primary object of the conference was to find a way of opening up genuine participation in the government of the country to all races while at the same time maintaining standards. To this end, the conference rejected universal suffrage, but recommended a system whereby anybody, regardless of race, who could conform to certain minimal standards, was entitled to a vote.*
    The voting qualifications laid down were standard for all people, regardless of race. This was the system in relation to the main common roll, designated as the “A” roll. For the benefit of those who might not yet be able to produce the necessary qualifications for the “A” roll (although there was and is nothing to stop anybody in his or her own time acquiring these qualifications by self-improvement) a further development was the creation of a “B” roll with somewhat easier qualifications.
    The position today is that people of any race may qualify for either roll. The “A” roll covers the country’s 50 normal constituencies. The “B” roll covers 15 specially created electoral districts (for all practical purposes, 15 very large constituencies into which the whole country has been geographically divided).
    Still further development in all this was a system of “cross influences” between the two voting rolls (either way, the results on one roll being influenced by the results on the other) intended to curb racialism in political contests.
    SAFEGUARD FOR ALL RHODESIANS
    Both the Declaration of Rights and the Constitutional Council are designed to safeguard the legitimate interests of all Rhodesians.
    The Declaration of Rights assures the fundamental rights and freedoms of every person in Rhodesia whatever his race, tribe, place of origin, political opinion, colour or creed, to:
    (a) life, liberty, security of person, the enjoyment of property, and the protection of the law;
    (b) freedom of conscience, of expression, and of assembly and association; and
    (c) respect for his private and family life.
    If any person alleges that any of the provisions of the Declaration are being contravened in relation to him, he may apply to the Appellate Division of the High Court for redress. If the case is regarded as a proper and suitable test case, the costs may be charged against revenue.
    In terms of the 1961 Constitution (overwhelmingly accepted by the electorate in a referendum in 1962) and also of the 1965 Independence Constitution:
    No one is barred from the vote by reason of race:
    Any registered voter, regardless of race, may stand for Parliament;
    Measures to thwart racially discriminatory legislation are part of the law.
    The Constitutional Council is headed by a Chairman who has long been a judge of specified Superior Courts, or is a retired advocate or attorney of the High Court of Rhodesia of not less than 15 years’ standing.
    The 11 elected members must include at least two Europeans, two Africans, one Asian, one person of the Coloured community and two persons who are either advocates or attorneys of the High Court of Rhodesia of not less than 10 years’ standing.
    The present Council has a minority of Europeans. Members are elected at three-yearly intervals by an electoral college composed of persons of high standing in the country, including the President of the Council of Chiefs.
    The Constitutional Council must consider every Bill presented to the Legislative Assembly, and if the Council considers that any provision of the Bill would be inconsistent with the Declaration of Rights, it submits to the Officer Administering the Government an adverse report.
    The Constitution may be amended by a two-thirds majority in Parliament. The Declaration of Rights is one of the specially entrenched sections, which requires a two-thirds affirmative vote and, at a subsequent sitting, a two-thirds affirmative vote for the address which must be presented to the Officer Administering the Government for assent.
    .

    Following a long tradition, at the Opening of Parliament the government and opposition members enter the chamber in pairs, led by the Prime Minister, The Hon ID Smith and the Leader of the Opposition, Mr JM Gondo.
    .
    THE FRANCHISE
    The franchise in Rhodesia confers “equality” upon all who acquire the necessary standards, regardless of their race.
    The standards for the franchise are closely correlated with standards in other spheres; and they are essential to the continuance of the civilization which prospers all Rhodesia’s inhabitants. Meanwhile the Government continues to strain its resources in raising the educational and economic levels of the Africans, to enable them to play a fuller part. Those who are excluded from the vote are excluded solely by virtue of fact that they have not demonstrated the necessary merit or ability. There is no special privilege reserved to the Europeans or any other section of the population.
    The franchise is for voters of all races registered on one of two rolls and extends to all citizens aged 21 years or over, resident in the country for more than two years, subject to certain property, income or educational qualifications.
    Of the Legislative Assembly of 65 members, 50 are elected to represent constituencies by the more highly qualified voters of the “A” roll, whilst 15, representing electoral districts, are elected by the voters with lower qualifications on the “B” roll.
    Both constituencies and electoral districts cover the entire country and the decision as to which roll a person qualifies for, or stands for Parliament on, is in no way dependent on race.
    The practical effect of the new franchise is to give a “B” roll vote to a large number of people, mainly Africans, who did not qualify at all under the old single-roll system. (Nothing prevents anyone with the necessary qualifications from enrolling as “A” roll voters.)
    Each member of the electorate can cast two votes, one for his choice of candidate in the constituency, and one for his choice in the overlapping electoral district in which he lives. By a system of cross-voting the “A” roll voters can influence the result of a “B” roll contest, and vice versa. This is designed to broaden the appeal of candidates to voters on both rolls.
    “A” Roll
    (a) Income of £792 or ownership of property of value of £1,650;
    or
    (b) Income of £528 or ownership of property of value of £1,100 and completion of a course ‘of primary education;
    or
    (c) Income of £330 or ownership of property of value of £550 and four years’ secondary education;
    or
    (d) Appointment to the office of Chief or Headman.
    “B” Roll
    (a) Income of £264 or ownership of property of the value of £495;
    or
    (b) Income of £132 or ownership of property of the value of £275 and two years’ secondary education;
    or
    (c) Over 30 years of age and income of £132 or ownership of property of value of £275 and primary education;
    or
    (d) Over 30 years of age and income of £198 or ownership of property of value of £385;
    or
    (e) Kraal heads with a following of 20 or more heads of families;
    or
    (f) Ministers of religion.
    Provision is made for a person paying for property by instalments to qualify for the “B” roll. A married woman is deemed to have the same means qualifications as her husband if she does not qualify in her own right. (This applies to one wife only - a necessary provision as polygamy is still practised by many Africans.) She has, of course, also to fulfil the other appropriate qualifications herself.
    An African newspaper has stated that had African nationalists taken advantage of the franchise opportunities available, they would today have been the official opposition party in Parliament.
    Under the Constitution, the Africans will attain “majority rule” just as soon as they demonstrate their fitness. by qualifying for the vote in sufficient numbers.
    There is no legal impediment to a Rhodesian of any race becoming Prime Minister, Member of Parliament, Judge of the High Court, Head of a Government Department or practising in any profession. Attainment of these positions is purely a question of merit and qualifications. Opportunities for advancement in all spheres are available to all races.

    • @ayodejiolowokere1076
      @ayodejiolowokere1076 2 года назад +3

      This is the 1961 constitution not the 1969. Furthermore Rhodesia was self ruling since 1923.

    • @ballinv2452
      @ballinv2452 2 года назад +1

      We blame white corrupt leaders that spread their disease to the white law abiding citizens. You followed the law blindly nit questioning it or standing up against it. Hence now you are paying for your sins. Your guilt is justified

    • @shanewalkingdead8258
      @shanewalkingdead8258 2 года назад +2

      So in short you are trying to say is you where part of the coloured during the chimurenga who where sabotaging the regime change by pretending to be fighting for the natives rights then down the line people of high IQ, the fight against communism, shift in social class, the failed introduction of a cast system by the Gujarati hindu indians, miraculous intervention by the Lord himself , has caused people like you to be in mass poverty without any hope of aid because the people you attacked and traumatised will not be be willing to land you a hand because that's like giving a hyena your hand to eat with it not being satisfied wanting more it does not help at all that the British, Irish and Scott's snitches about everything you did and where trying to do so your last plan is to try the Alexandra the great method aka the simp apocalypse to try and take your place in Zimbabwe which will take time but surely work well except for the fact literally everyone has access to education in Zimbabwe with a literacy rate of 95% and there plenty examples of unfortunate races of people who fell to this and give so many people like me ideas of how to get out of that pickle before your plan matures. All i have to say is you are wasting your time you will have great success doing that in South Africa not Zimbabwe if it was possible Mugabe was supposed to be your first victim instead everything went south when he married Grace for your plan come on she is a big rascist reminds me of Hitler wife.

    • @shanewalkingdead8258
      @shanewalkingdead8258 2 года назад +2

      Before I forget i wonder why the Anglo britians left their white passing offspring in our hands , it's true saxxons are cold hearted beast save yourself the irony and do your self a favour and flush all your hopes and dreams in the toilet . It's the year 2022 Mugabe achieving his goal just mad sure that there will be plenty of little Mugabe's all over Zimbabwe .

    • @NKiani
      @NKiani Год назад

      There’s always racism from the white side. It’s in your dna at this point

  • @invisibleray6987
    @invisibleray6987 Год назад

    sad story

  • @mattyallen3396
    @mattyallen3396 2 года назад +4

    Could have been worst bro. The Belgians could have conquered the place.

    • @STScott-qo4pw
      @STScott-qo4pw 2 года назад

      Oh. Gawd... 😶😨😳 I can hear king leopold's ghost cackling and rubbing its hands...

    • @clem5474
      @clem5474 Год назад

      @@STScott-qo4pw That's if you still had the hands.. 😟

    • @NKiani
      @NKiani Год назад +1

      Are you kidding? Comparing a wrong with another wrong is pure ignorance. How distasteful and inhumane to think in such a way

  • @CherylUithaler
    @CherylUithaler 7 месяцев назад

    Wrong hi story of coloured in Zimbabwe Rhodesia coloured s descendants of Khoisan they were there first before white and black settlers that how coloured s came there before it was Rhode bthankyou

  • @paulines581
    @paulines581 Год назад

    African and black African?

  • @jedidiahlindsaypikes4246
    @jedidiahlindsaypikes4246 Год назад

    You just told the story according to colonials. Do your research please

  • @malcommiddle2788
    @malcommiddle2788 2 года назад +1

    I love the videos, very informative but the way he keeps pronouncing Europeans is annoying

    • @ZimTechGuy
      @ZimTechGuy  2 года назад +2

      😁😁😁 Sorry about that how would you like me to say it?

    • @malcommiddle2788
      @malcommiddle2788 2 года назад

      @@ZimTechGuy Euro Peans

  • @lugwetunje3896
    @lugwetunje3896 2 года назад

    People should live free no rules can prevent the real situation on the ground white people like us black love has no baudaries

  • @ashleymukarali4852
    @ashleymukarali4852 3 месяца назад

    Thanks. Very good attempt at the history but there are some statements that are just not true and need to be explained Can you please find A Shona in Zimbabwe? Maybe Today. But. Here is the shocking truth! No Such tribe existed 200 years ago! Yes very very true. What is the real hidden history behind the Shona Tribe of Zimbabwe? Whose Language is Shona anyway? before we proceed here are Some Apologies - 2 apologies in fact. (i)The Berlin Conference borders are Un-African

  • @fionasmith6868
    @fionasmith6868 2 года назад

    Thier is a lot of propaganda.

  • @darianclery4455
    @darianclery4455 Год назад

    Zimbabwe colonial

  • @LoveMafae
    @LoveMafae 2 года назад

    Crack man

  • @sadzasnake1755
    @sadzasnake1755 Год назад +1

    Mmmmmm something just does not ring true with this.

  • @icetrip2417
    @icetrip2417 2 года назад +2

    Damm yt women 😶😶😶very dangerous