absolutely loved that. I just got the 90degree lightburn camera and mounting. I have been worrying over placement of the camera, and your video has absolutely clarified things for me new to the world of lasers, so really glad I found your channel. your style of video is clear and easy to understand..cheers...Terry
Great video. Have just started looking into lasers and want one with the camera. Have looked at things like the Dremmel and Glowforge but wow, that's a lot of cash. You've just given me some more options. Thanks
As a cheap method for better nesting without a camera you can just make a square or rectangle that's the same size as your wood stock, make sure it's on a layer set not to output, then just place all your cuts and engraves within the square, and boom your scrap will come out just like how you lay it out within the square. And if you don't do jobs often you can save the lightburn file for that piece of wood, which works best if you have a square reference so you always line up the same 😉
Very cool! I might have to give more thought to switching over from RD Works. I’ve just been labeling the corner of my sheets with a serial number, and creating a corresponding file that has current and past cuts for that particular sheet.
Lightburn has totally changed my use of my laser, small leatherwork stuff is so much easier for me now and cutting out wooden trinket boxes are a dream
I just switched from RD Works to Lightburn about two days ago, I so wish that I had done it months ago. What a difference. I highly recommend the change. I'm still considering the camera. I guess I'm a little slower than the average bear when it comes to making change.
So I have the Lightburn Camera, 8mp 140 degree fisheye camera. I calibrated the camera but when I burned the image, for the four corners, I tried to capture the image but it will not capture. I have a OMTECH 60w (700mm x 500mm). Any suggestions in getting past this point would be greatly appreciated. Does this have anything to do with the lighting in the room? - Reggie
Following the Lightburn examples was not working and now I know why. I did exactly what you did. I mounted the camera so it was centered in my cut area and parallel to the bed. Lightburn did not like that. Will try what you did today including having someone to help. After yesterday I can say that would have made it a lot easier for me. Thanks for sharing.
Just bought a camera and installing it. Just wondering before I mount.. do you calibrate with the door open? Also, each time you use the camera, does the door remain open? (sorry if these are stupid questions) :)
Do you need to recalibrate every time you open the door for a new project or is it accurate enough? Asking because I'm got the same machine coming in and will most likely order a camera.
Great video. I think I must be missing something though with these cameras, I can appreciate what you've demonstrated but I can't get past the fact that the camera connects to the computer via a USB cable. Does this not mean that you're sitting next to your laser in any case and could just manually position your workpiece?
Hey, You really do a great job explaining things, thanks. One question, how do you determine exactly where the camera mounts on the under side of the lid? Thanks again, Tim
I have ordered my camera from Lightburn. Should be here next week. I was wondering where did you go to print the pattern that you are holding under the camera and taking the pictures? I was wanting to go ahead and print that out.
Amazing video. Love how precise you can get it! I just got a Neje Master 2 Max and I'm setting up an old cell phone for the camera. I wonder, is there a way to do this camera setup on a CNC? I have some live edge slabs that I would like to bowl out precisely. Currently I'm tracing the cut area on the wood with chalk, then using a couple framing squares to box in the area and taking a good photo on my phone. Then I'll take it into Illustrator and resize the image based on the framing squares. Next is tracing the chalk line to make a shape, then save as SVG and import into VCarve. Having a live camera preview in VCarve would be amazing.
In the corners you tilt the calibration patern so that it faces the camera at right angle - is this prescribed by the Lightburn manual? If not, then it bits the idea of using the chessboard pattern for camera calibration, as this idea is to offset distortions of a wide-angle fisheye camera view of a flat plane
@@MyersWoodshop The first time you said that it was a 140° camera. Now I'm seeing 160° camera. If your camera to bed is 660 mm. Would a 120° camera be better. 700÷120=466 mm above the bed, minimum, to see the whole thing. I have the same yellow 60 watt and just want to get the right camera the first time. Thanks Ben
This may be a dumb question, but when measuring for which camera to choose, where do I position my bed, since it can be raised or lowered. Should I measure from the lowest bed height, highest bed height or somewhere in the middle, as it will change depending on what I am engraving?
Is there an easy way inside of Lightburn to save the video of a cutting job? I'm thinking of uploading a how-to video and it would be nice to have some footage from inside of the machine as it was running.
Grazie per il tuo video: per cortesia sai dirmi con che software hai creato la tua sigla? grazie - Thanks for your video: can you please tell me with which software you created your theme? thank you
Great video Ben. Thanks for posting it. I know in a previous video you found out your laser was really a 50 watt instead of the advertised 60 watt; will this laser cut cleanly through 1/4” Lexan (plexiglass) and 1/4” plywood in one pass?
Lexan and plexiglas are not the same! Poly-carbonate (Lexan) is often found as flat, sheet material. The window of the laser cutter is made of Poly-carbonate because poly-carbonate strongly absorbs infrared radiation! This is the frequency of light the laser cutter uses to cut materials, so it is very ineffective at cutting poly-carbonate. Poly-carbonate is a poor choice for laser cutting. It creates long stringy clouds of soot that float up, ruin the optics and mess up the machine. Cuts very poorly, discolors, and catches fire. Per ATX Hackerspace Acrylic/Lucite/Plexiglas/PMMA are good to go! They cut extremely well leaving a beautifully polished edge.
Hi Ben, I just got an Ortur 15 based on you review of it and was wondering if you have info on using a camera on an open frame mini engraver like the Ortur. If so do you have a recommendation for the camera and do you make a mount? Thanks for the videos. BTW I also got LightBurn and am learning it. Thanks again. Cheers, Tom
I am curious why you chose the 140 d camera? I have the same laser (partly thanks to your videos, you should get a cut from Orion motor Works) and based on your placement and lightburns website a better match would have been the 90 d or 120 d camera (less fisheye as well). So was there a particular reason you went with the 140??
Hello Ben, I am about to purchase a Chinese laser and have a question on the camera install. Every video that I have watched shows how to mount the camera on the lid but they never show where it is connected to the machine. Does this camera hook directly up to the laser control board or do you need a computer attached to the laser all the time?
Hello I recently just brought this camera but i'm trying to figure how to connect it. OD i connect the USB to the computer or the exterior USB port that says " U-disk"?
@@MyersWoodshop Ok great. Thanks thats the part that I wasnt understanding. I kept closing the lid and it was getting very frustrating why it wasnt working....lol
I have had ZERO luck setting up my lightburn camera its been over a month of back and forth and very little help from Lightburn, the camera changes my bed size to much smaller and that's not a option for me.
Did you or someone here tried other USB camera ? like a Logitech one used for streaming ? Their camera is too expensive compared to others better usb cameras for under $40 I dont want to use the Trial version yet to try this until i get a mini Gerbil or C3D Thanks
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Cheers, I've clicked your link for camera but it's not available no more. How is this one www.aliexpress.com/i/33004186577.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.5d924d20mrhPlK
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@@MyersWoodshop great video Myers. I have managed to get my camera connected and focused. When I try to do the camera alighnment test the engaving and outline circle doesnt match. Any ideas why?
Great video, buying the camera from then after trying your tutorial one more time. Any chance you can upload your settings in lightburn and your vendor settings. Have issues with printing on center and not mirrored...
For when you did your scale, how did you get 252? I thought because you were going from 200 to 500 you would need it increased by 40% and so would set the scale to 280?
absolutely loved that. I just got the 90degree lightburn camera and mounting. I have been worrying over placement of the camera, and your video has absolutely clarified things for me
new to the world of lasers, so really glad I found your channel. your style of video is clear and easy to understand..cheers...Terry
Great video. Have just started looking into lasers and want one with the camera. Have looked at things like the Dremmel and Glowforge but wow, that's a lot of cash. You've just given me some more options. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
As a cheap method for better nesting without a camera you can just make a square or rectangle that's the same size as your wood stock, make sure it's on a layer set not to output, then just place all your cuts and engraves within the square, and boom your scrap will come out just like how you lay it out within the square. And if you don't do jobs often you can save the lightburn file for that piece of wood, which works best if you have a square reference so you always line up the same 😉
Very cool! I might have to give more thought to switching over from RD Works. I’ve just been labeling the corner of my sheets with a serial number, and creating a corresponding file that has current and past cuts for that particular sheet.
Lightburn has been a godsend. 30 day free trial, worth it.
Lightburn has totally changed my use of my laser, small leatherwork stuff is so much easier for me now and cutting out wooden trinket boxes are a dream
I just switched from RD Works to Lightburn about two days ago, I so wish that I had done it months ago. What a difference. I highly recommend the change. I'm still considering the camera. I guess I'm a little slower than the average bear when it comes to making change.
So I have the Lightburn Camera, 8mp 140 degree fisheye camera. I calibrated the camera but when I burned the image, for the four corners, I tried to capture the image but it will not capture. I have a OMTECH 60w (700mm x 500mm). Any suggestions in getting past this point would be greatly appreciated. Does this have anything to do with the lighting in the room?
- Reggie
With the bed having the ability to move vertically, where do you position the bed when measuring distance of bed to lid?
Following the Lightburn examples was not working and now I know why. I did exactly what you did. I mounted the camera so it was centered in my cut area and parallel to the bed. Lightburn did not like that. Will try what you did today including having someone to help. After yesterday I can say that would have made it a lot easier for me. Thanks for sharing.
you welcome!
Great Job, thank you for clearing up the camera questions for me.
Glad it helped!
Very good presentation. You are so easy to listen to. No BS just facts! Thanks!
Thanks michael! Glad it helped!
Just bought a camera and installing it. Just wondering before I mount.. do you calibrate with the door open? Also, each time you use the camera, does the door remain open? (sorry if these are stupid questions) :)
Door open for both!
Do you need to recalibrate every time you open the door for a new project or is it accurate enough? Asking because I'm got the same machine coming in and will most likely order a camera.
No, as long as your easy with the lid.
Great video. I think I must be missing something though with these cameras, I can appreciate what you've demonstrated but I can't get past the fact that the camera connects to the computer via a USB cable. Does this not mean that you're sitting next to your laser in any case and could just manually position your workpiece?
Just ordered your mount, Thanks
Hey, You really do a great job explaining things, thanks.
One question, how do you determine exactly where the camera mounts on the under side of the lid?
Thanks again,
Tim
i tried to get as 90 degree as i could. really trial and error.
I have ordered my camera from Lightburn. Should be here next week. I was wondering where did you go to print the pattern that you are holding under the camera and taking the pictures? I was wanting to go ahead and print that out.
in lightburn.
@@MyersWoodshop I know that but I could not see where it said to print it
Amazing video. Love how precise you can get it! I just got a Neje Master 2 Max and I'm setting up an old cell phone for the camera.
I wonder, is there a way to do this camera setup on a CNC? I have some live edge slabs that I would like to bowl out precisely. Currently I'm tracing the cut area on the wood with chalk, then using a couple framing squares to box in the area and taking a good photo on my phone. Then I'll take it into Illustrator and resize the image based on the framing squares. Next is tracing the chalk line to make a shape, then save as SVG and import into VCarve.
Having a live camera preview in VCarve would be amazing.
yep, check out www.rowdyroman.com
Very intersting thankyou for showing
thank you!
Thanks for another great video! Can you touch on the thickness setting for autofocus? (OMTech 60w Red/Black with autofocus)
Hi thanks for the video but you didn't talk about where to connect the camera
Great tutorial for camera setup!!
thanks, glad it helped!
Best helpful video yet!
Glad you think so!
You are so very helpful to me!
I'm so glad!
Awesome Video! Is it possible to create time lapses with this camera?
Unfortunately not yet. I've requested that feature though!
In the corners you tilt the calibration patern so that it faces the camera at right angle - is this prescribed by the Lightburn manual? If not, then it bits the idea of using the chessboard pattern for camera calibration, as this idea is to offset distortions of a wide-angle fisheye camera view of a flat plane
yep.
Which fisheye lens did you finally go with based on your measurements?
160
@@MyersWoodshop The first time you said that it was a 140° camera. Now I'm seeing 160° camera. If your camera to bed is 660 mm. Would a 120° camera be better. 700÷120=466 mm above the bed, minimum, to see the whole thing. I have the same yellow 60 watt and just want to get the right camera the first time. Thanks Ben
This may be a dumb question, but when measuring for which camera to choose, where do I position my bed, since it can be raised or lowered. Should I measure from the lowest bed height, highest bed height or somewhere in the middle, as it will change depending on what I am engraving?
Was this the initial setup? Do you have to do this every time you want to use the camera?
sorry I missed where you said what lens degree of camera you got for your bed size.
140
Why did you buy the 140 lens instead of the 90 lens?? Your numbers of 660 above bed suggest you should have gone 90 degrees instead
lightburn suggested it.
Is there an easy way inside of Lightburn to save the video of a cutting job? I'm thinking of uploading a how-to video and it would be nice to have some footage from inside of the machine as it was running.
no possible as of now.
do i have to use Absolute Coordinates for the laser to start at the position shown in the camera?
Can you plug the camera in to the Lightbridge RP? and have it work wireless to the PC?
Nice video 👍 amazing camara
it works REALLY well!
Grazie per il tuo video: per cortesia sai dirmi con che software hai creato la tua sigla? grazie - Thanks for your video: can you please tell me with which software you created your theme? thank you
fiverr.
@@MyersWoodshop ???
Which orientation does your camera face? Facing right side up or flip upside down? Or can you change it in the software after it’s mounted?
with the 5mp, the wires come out the right side.
Great video Ben. Thanks for posting it. I know in a previous video you found out your laser was really a 50 watt instead of the advertised 60 watt; will this laser cut cleanly through 1/4” Lexan (plexiglass) and 1/4” plywood in one pass?
Yep
Lexan and plexiglas are not the same!
Poly-carbonate (Lexan) is often found as flat, sheet material. The window of the laser cutter is made of Poly-carbonate because poly-carbonate strongly absorbs infrared radiation! This is the frequency of light the laser cutter uses to cut materials, so it is very ineffective at cutting poly-carbonate. Poly-carbonate is a poor choice for laser cutting. It creates long stringy clouds of soot that float up, ruin the optics and mess up the machine. Cuts very poorly, discolors, and catches fire. Per ATX Hackerspace
Acrylic/Lucite/Plexiglas/PMMA are good to go! They cut extremely well leaving a beautifully polished edge.
Freddy Akins WOW!
9:00. Circle - or an oval??
I have a laguna Mx 100w laser. What degree camera should I get?
Hi Ben, I just got an Ortur 15 based on you review of it and was wondering if you have info on using a camera on an open frame mini engraver like the Ortur. If so do you have a recommendation for the camera and do you make a mount? Thanks for the videos. BTW I also got LightBurn and am learning it. Thanks again. Cheers, Tom
The lightburn camera is the way to go. still working on a mount.
Do you have a vid on changing the controller to work with the light burn software?
changing the controller? I'm using the same ruida it came with.
@@MyersWoodshop I'm using a full spectrum laser and I heard i need to swap controllers to run lightburn.
Would any camera work?
which camera did you buy?
I adjusted the camera with the hood up. when you put the hood down does it still work as it should?
it will work when up. that's how it's calibrated. It will work after you close the lid then return it to the up position.
I am curious why you chose the 140 d camera? I have the same laser (partly thanks to your videos, you should get a cut from Orion motor Works) and based on your placement and lightburns website a better match would have been the 90 d or 120 d camera (less fisheye as well). So was there a particular reason you went with the 140??
thats what lightburn recommended to me.
Just curiosity got me ...do you think is it possible to add a wireless cam on this project or any other laser cutter or engraver
no. It wouldn't work with lightburn.
hi, awesome videos, do you know if you can cut acrylic to 3/4 inch, 19mm , i guess you need more power like 100 or 130w Thank you if you can help.
i can!
Thanks for sharing that
no problem!
was that the regular camera or the 8MP version of there camera?
regular 5mp
Good day sir, are you using a windows based computer? Is it the same computer you use for your Shapeoko
Yes!
TY
You're welcome
Hello Ben, I am about to purchase a Chinese laser and have a question on the camera install. Every video that I have watched shows how to mount the camera on the lid but they never show where it is connected to the machine. Does this camera hook directly up to the laser control board or do you need a computer attached to the laser all the time?
it plugs into your computers USB port. it doesn't hook up to the laser.
Will this camera work on any Chinese laser? I have Ten High 50W 2-3 years old. Thank You
Yes it will
How big is the template to calibrate the camera?
i need help printing the calibration. Is it supposed to be letter format?
I don't remember. I used a regular piece of paper.
Hello I recently just brought this camera but i'm trying to figure how to connect it. OD i connect the USB to the computer or the exterior USB port that says " U-disk"?
it plugs into your computers usb
Did you use the 140 degree camera on your black and yellow laser?
Duh finally watched from begging....sorry
lol.
Will this camera also work within the rdworks program or just lightburn software?
nope.
Hi there my Co2 laser has an option of CCD camera will lightburn work with that ? Should I go for it ?
ccd? not sure what that is.
Can i buy this camera for my black and blue laser ?
absolutly!
do you center your projects with the lid in the "up" position?
Yes
@@MyersWoodshop Ok great. Thanks thats the part that I wasnt understanding. I kept closing the lid and it was getting very frustrating why it wasnt working....lol
does lightburn work with a chinese machine ? non RUIDA, 100w Reci tube
sure does.
Hi there ! The Chinese lasers come with a CCD camera option I wanted to know if the same can be used with the Lightburn software ? Thanks !
what is CCD?
@@MyersWoodshop its a pre installed camera option that comes along with the chinese lasers
hello all! can we connect GoPro somehow to the LightBurn ?
I don't think so.
I have had ZERO luck setting up my lightburn camera its been over a month of back and forth and very little help from Lightburn, the camera changes my bed size to much smaller and that's not a option for me.
I was just gonna order one I have the same laser as him. What size Lens did you get
What part is getting you stumped?
Did you or someone here tried other USB camera ? like a Logitech one used for streaming ?
Their camera is too expensive compared to others better usb cameras for under $40
I dont want to use the Trial version yet to try this until i get a mini Gerbil or C3D
Thanks
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hi
would this work with an eleksmaker laser cutter that i am using with lightburn? many thanks
yes!
Cheers, I've clicked your link for camera but it's not available no more. How is this one www.aliexpress.com/i/33004186577.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.5d924d20mrhPlK
■ Lightburn Camera : bit.ly/lightburncamera
■ 3D Printed Mount For Camera : bit.ly/lbcameramount
■ Orion Motor Tech 60w Chinese Black and Yellow Laser Cutter Engraver : amzn.to/2Ko95RQ
model #? because ebay link doesnt work. i did fine one but different lens. number:193191985659
I have the same laser...what lense did you use?
Hey, thought I'd let you know the link to the chiller on amazon is incorrect. It seems to go to a fog machine
thanks for the heads up!
@@MyersWoodshop great video Myers. I have managed to get my camera connected and focused. When I try to do the camera alighnment test the engaving and outline circle doesnt match. Any ideas why?
If anything good comes of out these Chinese laser machines it is that it forces AMERICANS to speaks the metric units LOL
I'd happily give up imperial units! I hate them!
Great video, buying the camera from then after trying your tutorial one more time. Any chance you can upload your settings in lightburn and your vendor settings. Have issues with printing on center and not mirrored...
setting for what? everything is defult.
For when you did your scale, how did you get 252? I thought because you were going from 200 to 500 you would need it increased by 40% and so would set the scale to 280?
they have a link on measuring in the help section of the software.