37240 Very Cold Start
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Class 37 No 37240 is started on a very cold Sunday at Llangollen River Sidings. The English Electric Type 3, owned and operated by the Llangollen Diesel Group, has just had the rings on her B3 piston changed. The impressive amounts of smoke are typical of cold EE engines. The lack of white smoke when the engine has warmed up and is put under load shows that the new piston rings have done the trick. Enjoy!
August 2010 UPDATE: The loco has been overhauled in 2010 and is now resplendent in 1960's-style BR blue livery and original body condition with headcode windows and buffer beam skirts.
Fancy driving this beast? Well you can! Find out more at www.llangollen-diesels.org.uk or send me a message.
love class 37s and this is fantastic footage - amazing engine sound with the bonus of the steam train passing by in the smoke! also with a sense of humour mixed in - well done!
One of my favorite vids ever, that engine sounds beautiful!!
Hi. EE engines always hunt when cold. The oil is also cold and I understand this effects the ability of the governor to work effectively. Many also idle slightly off-balance, ours certianly does due to having a couple of Class 31 pistons fitted. These are theoretically identical, but even slight differences cause the power unit to idle unevenly. Doesn't do any harm though. Cheers, Tez
Just thought I would point out that the 'Disgruntled Motorist' was the then Chairman of the Llangollen Railway driving past, giving a friendly wave !
from a time when we made stuff , real stuff that lasted in the UK
How right you are, Tom. Over 50 years old, and still in use. Wonderful. British - and the best!
LOL at the camerman choking! Nice work!
Great Video, I had to laugh when the camera man started to choke on the smoke. I guess there is a price to rail fanning at times.
At 1:45 did anyone else notice a glitch in the matrix? i'm sure that white MR2 passed by twice.
They're not actually the same car. If you look closely at the first one it has some kind of writing on the side, whereas the second one doesnt. Probably some kind of motor show on
Engine started by batteries that use the generator effectively as a starter motor . Engine is an English Electric 12CSVT - V12, turbo-charged and intercooled delivering 1,750hp. She's a beast!
“Very cold”
Sees flowers blooming in the background
Gotta love the stream train cameo, making sure it can still compete with the CLAGMONSTER
oooohhhhhh the sweet idling sound just imagine what you can do with all that power! >:)
does more mpg than a vw diesel , euro 5 compliant , no recalls on this engine, no electronic cheating going on here
Thanks! The A1 is pretty impressive and I believe there's a 'next generation' Standard 5 on a drawing board or CAD tube somewhere.
240 is started in the vid - it pulses when the oil is cold in the governor.
Man, that Class 37 made more smoke than the Black 5 did!
0.34 - 0.42
"wake up, lazy bones! Why don't you work hard like me?" XD
How could anyone dislike this video?
At 1:42 two identical white mk1 toyota MR2's drive by, what a rare and unusual sight!
Thee Adjudicator A glitch in the Matrix?
Buffy lol
super dual team on the motorist!!!! lol 37 and black 5 what a tag team!!!!
im 17 man i love these sounds
Oh just listen to that mighty roar & they are something to behold!
Being in charge of a locomotive in run 8 even for a few minutes is high on my bucket list. I wish you weren't across the pond.
Oh what a great piece of kit, English Electric rule. Drove her last March.....will be back again this year!
Like, so vivid & realistic, your audience in video-land is nearly gagging & puking from the smoke. Way to go, babe!
Love these sounds . The Steam Train sounds great too. I love the idle of this train
@autoboybv No, the loco is a diesel electric, so to start you actually apply battery current to the main generator which turns the power unit over to start it.
Clagg overload - fantastic! I remember these from being a little girl. I miss them a lot.
The engine size works out at 185.5 litres.
The 16 cylinder version comes out at 245.3 litres.
Hiya. Thanks for the comment.
She's a diesel electric, glad the video stirred some good memories for you. Happily, there'll be 37's running on both preserved and main lines in the UK for many years to come! Best wishes, Tez
Yes, very true. Many seem to forget that the alternative energy has been acquired using traditional fuels somewhere along the line!
I never knew that for bio-diesel!
Must say, love the black five going by! Wasn't expecting that treat. Wish we would see that here in the US! I would love to go back to my birth country of England! Mariah Rich
Awesome sound!!! Deltic power!!!
This isn't a Deltic though :P
You are right! I searched the wrong "class"! :)
long live EE diesel power, and long live the class 37s
Live next to a coal line for a couple of years, and you soon become familiar with all the different sounds of these beasts - when they're cruising along, when they're really pulling a load, or when they're in trouble. I've heard some very sick 37s in my time, and this reminds me of some of them.
What's the problem with the motorists, though? Don't they like the wonderful smell of clag? ;) Mmm... takes me back. :)
The smoke covering the road lol probably thinks electrics and hybrids are the future not aware this is a hybrid it's a diesel electric lol
Absolutely hellfire
And it even outclagged the kettle
February 2008. BR hasn't existed for over 10 years, but several privatised operators still have a few in traffic.
Used to love watching these coming through Prestatyn.
Amazing diesel locomotive and cool smoke. Thumbs up! :)
Best of luck with the Greenpeace sponsorship....
+TheSupercollier best way to piss them off start up a locomotive in front of them.
Gorgeous, what a fabulous machine. Takes me back to the Lickey incline.
I used to work on a boat in Bideford that had a pair of old Gardner 6xlct engines, they done the same thing on very cold starts. One morning the fire brigade showed up on the quay after someone though we had a fire. But good as gold once they warmed up a little.
love the sound of these machines cannot stop looking at it
Thanks, a beast isn't she?
It's deffo oil - 2 chrome rings had been fitted on B3 piston before we got the loco and this was causing oil to pass by into the cylinder and burn.
The Llangollen is a preserved line and mostly uses steam. Google "Llangollen Railway" to find out more.
this is far more worth watching than worrying about the ozone thingy!! :) Especially when the black 5 passed by!!
It's almost making more smoke than the black five!
You are correct! Without sufficient air generated to operate the Governor or loco air brake, we were using the little YEC 0-4-0 shunter to move her away from the road.
That black five must have been pretty proud of himself....
Nah, it smells lovely. Especially when mixed with drinking real ale!
According to J. Harrison Fuel, they're very hard coke (no, not the drink!) used in room heaters and cookers. They seem to resemble charcoal briquettes that are used to fuel barbecues.
37s are definitely the best of the British diesels. Up until my employers constructively dismissed me, I was going to be driving one of the Gloucestershire & Warwickshire Railways's 37s this November. Sadly I won't get my hands on the throttle of one now. Wish I'd visited the Llangollen when this beast has been running! Frankly a 12CSVT giving it the beans beats my puny 1.3 litre Fiesta!
Now that would have been something to see, but best not smell! I visited Victoria and NSW back in 1997 and I distinctly remember it being quite chilly!
Love the sound !
Hi there. Wow, amazing that someone in Brazil is watching our 37 smoking away. Thanks for the comments!
Ta V Much like.
The power unit is an English Electric 12 cylinder. It's intercooled and turbo'd, knocking out 1,750HP.
Thanks for watching!
A class 37 with a cloaking device......Well now i've seen everything
@PumbaRuben yeah, seconded. You can look down the exhaust stacks on these and see the turbine wheel of the turbo's! In my opinion thats the only silencing these get is the 2 turbo's!
Looking forward to another hot summer next year.
Polar bears? What ever!
You're looking at around 10-20 minutes - the loco needs to generate sufficient air to release the brakes and control the engine governor before you can take power and move anyway.
I'm a train lover, but to be fair, that's a very good point you make.
I know there is some debate/question if car/diesel/petrol etc emissions are as much to blame as some claim by some (including myself I hasten to add!), but cars ARE blamed for pollution no end. Why are trains not under the spotlight too?
If a car smoked as much as this, it would be ordered off the road!
As a dyed in the wool steam man, I would say that is clag to die for.
@Vladimir42kem Many thanks for the comments from all the way over there in Siberia! I can imagine that running engines in those kind of temperatures must be rather challenging!
you gota love the class 37 clag
i love this vid you can just hear the turbo whistling
Old English Electric engines all smoke when they are really cold - as you see elsewhere on RUclips. The design of this engine is 50 years old after all! If you look at the vid later, you can see the white smoke has cleared when the oil and coolant has warmed up a bit.
Hellfire!!
"cameramen in distress", lol. How did the motorists indicate they were disgruntled?
Aye, she's a beast. We look forward to welcoming you back in the Chair Sir!
Perfect video and sound even better
still cleaner than a vw golf tdi
Lol
Michael Jagger sounds like my old caviler first thing in the morning with that banging
Quite a bit. This is a diesel electric loco, a 156 is a mechanical/hydraulic transmission. Power controller and brakes are in similar places, but a 37 is a very different animal from a sprinter!
240 was awesome as usual today on the Llangollen ! :)
Love it. The diesel out-clagged the steamer!
Bollocks to the environmentalists! I like clag!
Love the clag mate that must have been the week we had fog for three days !1
Cold oil in the governor I believe, although she does tend to tick over slightly off-beat when warm.
Thanks ! Really enjoyed watching that.....
dammit guys... we NEED this atmosphere. :-) :-)
that the same feeling as getting up every single before a warm cup of coffee!!
Hmmm, not entirely sure about that. However, I love the smell of cold start clag in the morning!
Reminds me of starting a very cold GE locomotive back in the day before switching the mill. A GE doesn't even come close to having the character of a Class 37.
Now that's layin' down the clag.
Hi there,
37's generally tend to idle off balance like this, but I believe it's worse when they are first started due to the engine Governor hunting as the oil is cold.
Thanks for the comments. You've got some impressive locos over in Germany - and you still use them to pull proper trains with carriages. In Britain our railwyas are mostly run by units - or nasty plastic buses as we like to call them!
No probs. Agreed, Deltics are ace!
37's are in daily freight use with DRS and EWS/DB, although the latter are down to around 2 working examples now. West Coast Railways use them for their passenger charter trains, usually top and tailing a steam loco. Network Rail have also just had four heavily overhauled for use on the Cambrian ERTMS project, which will see them based at Shrewsbury and working on the mainline for around another 10 years! Not bad for locos well over 40 years old eh?
Brilliant capture...just love that sound and the smoke!! My Fairey Huntress powerboat with a Ford Sabre 275 in, could outsmoke that!! not a popular chap on the Hamble in winter!
Lovely catch of both diesel & Steam :)
she sure is! class 37 will always stay with me as i got in the cab with the driver and even had a little drive of one when i was a kid! you say before "we" got the loco... i take it your heavily involved in the Llangollen rail? thanks i'll have a look at that ;)
The Black 5 isnt a PATCH on the 37 clagg! Thats a few hundred local people suffocated!
That sounds amazing at the end.
37240 sounds great👍
Bit of a toss up who made the most smoke, black 5 or type 37!
Lovely old diesel plenty of smoke and grunt stuff the the modern trains these have charm.
Being hauled by a shunting loco, which you can just see. That's what toots before the loco moves
Not very environmentally friendly but I love the sound of 37s❤
I think these trains have a lot of character
Sounds like a 'royal endfield' ;o)
I used to have a 1965 singer that started up like that
Quality loco there as always :)
Is that a Deltic engine? Lovely sound!
No. English Electric V12 diesel
I can see why the Brtis love these things.. That engine was puffing out smoke like and old American GE/ALCo engine.. See we are not that different
+HoustonRailFan ™ we love rolling the coal.
Michael Jagger not every person loves rolling coal😒
We have a 1952 EE built loco on our railway - a bit like a 'baby class 20', 6 cyl
6KST 750hp engine, and it certainly hunts the same, smokes too, when cold, but quite not this much. A couple of video clips of it in my first videos here (NZR class 'De').
37 sounds much nicer once warmed up, with that extra 6 cylinders!
That sounds so cool
Take a deep breath, that good old smake will do you the world of good! lol