If he had a smaller waist. It be one of the 3 best physiques of all time. But it's the one thing he didnt have. Jay was a guy with no weak spots. May not be the best anything but had no weak spot. If that waist was a inch or two smaller he would have won atleast 3 to 5 more Os
Cutler persevered more than any mr.Olympia ever... to be stuck behind ronnie all them years and stay at it says more to me than his titles...he also lost and then reclaimed the title !!!
For me 2009 and 2001 are equal (but 09 is probably a bit superior). With 2001 having a slightly better upper body and back but 2009 being bigger and better legs. I would say the order of his best shapes would be * 2001/2009 Olympia (slight edge to 09) Then I would say 2003 night of champions would be next.
Lol “crear” but yeah absolutely, might not have had the best abs especially his less than stellar serratus and obliques giving him a much wider and often spilled over look but I’ve never seen him with the bubble bubble bubble gut. Such a huge, wide mass monster and almost always had a tight stomach.
@70mMyWi53 True but that was because he had to deal with the mass monsters. Otherwise, we would have gotten a 240 jay cutler that would have been more tapered.
2009 the no pose pose with the quad stomp was just epic. When he walked out, he looked like 4-5 inches wider then everyone else. Plus the conditioning was very good, Just insane.
Jay was actually smaller in 09 than in 01. He was 254 in 09 according to himself. He was 260-270 on stage in most previous years. The illusion made him look bigger. His left quad was and has always been bigger than his left. Obviously that 09 stamp was the freakiest quad picture ever taken. His rectus femoris head was more defined than almost any other bodybuilders. He had crazy detail there also because of the seperations, which he lacked in his back and arms. His shoulders were good, but actually got significantly smaller after 09. That could be due to a combination of less testosterone intake/levels, less emphasis on shoulder training, age and that his humeral heads continued to migrate down and anterior in the glenoid cavity, which most often is a result of tight/short lats, pecs and partial or complete biceps tendon ruptures. Notice that on Jay's left shoulder after his proximal biceps tendon tear on 2011. His shoulder never looked the same again.
Yeah I saw that video. Surprised me because he def added tons of mass esp to his back by 2006 when he dethroned Ronnie but I guess he downsized a fair bit to come in super dry in 09
Yeah i heard him say that recently on his channel. Hard to believe he weighed more in 01 but it's probably because he was drier in 09. Either way I'm sure most his measurements would've been the same or slightly up after 8 years
I've seen some comparison videos or photos of Jay 09 vs 01, 08, 10, etc. I really don't know why 09 is the best, because the difference is not _that_ huge. Like, he is on but he was on on quite a few shows as well. Maybe it's a lighting but there's something magical about 09. I tend to say that it's the undisputed alpha-male "I'm here to win and it lights out for you guys" attitude what makes 2009 Jay special. Like he is absolutely sure that no one is a match against him that year, he is so confident. You rarely see that happen. And also it's funny to see how Branch was so let down with his second place when it was announced...like WTF have you been thinking man?! :D Jay is on another level.
It's the lighting but also Jay's conditioning from the back was uncharacteristically good since up until then we'd never rly seen him dialled in from the rear.
I was at this show and Branch even though I do not like his physique at all I gotta admit I was in aw when I seen Branch come out, he looked insane, but Jay was heads and shoulders above everybody
Jay struggle with asymmetry in his legs and arms and even his lats was well documented. What was noteworthy about Jay was that he was one of the few guys to actually fix it and his art massage sessions with Derek Farnsworth were pretty well documented back then.
I recently saw video footage of Jay Cutler from Mr.O 1999 for the first time. And i have to say: WOW - what a waistline! What a difference this made! A comparison between 1999 and one of his more famous versions would be interesting.
Only flaw Jay had was his blocky waist like Arnold, Jay just didnt do twists and turns in order to make his waist look smallet,..he had wide thick lats, nice round biceps, thick ass chest, great wheels , had a nice side tri shot, always shredded.
@@zombslayer4707 yes hard to say honestly his physique was probably about the same 2010 had the better lighting though, his ab and thigh pose looked scary with this lighting
My Top 5 favorite Bodybuilders in no specific order 1. Dorian Yates 2. Arnold Schwarzenegger 3. Ronnie Coleman 4. Lee Priest 5. Jay Cutler and a very special consideration to Serge the BLACK PANTHER Nubret. Commentors send me your top 5 list and lets compare and contrast!
He deserves it as wel for a change I keep feeling you never give him enough credit! It's a fact this man was the best or 2de best bodybuilder of all time 😉
@@Tomn8er could you imagine if his waist was a inch or two smaller. making him have a insane V taper. He be one of the all time best. Especially with those shoulders.
I think 2005 was also a remarkable showing from jay He had better back, good quads, also good conditioning and many believed that he should have won that show including me
when i seen him step on stage my mouth dropped. never been a fan of Jays physique but this year he blew me away. STILL NOT super pleasing to look at,still has the horrible melting abs,still not very vascular,still blocky..BUT..over all nobody was touching that..
In my opinion jay was the only bodybuilder that could go head on with Ronnie in his prime in terms of mass and conditioning he brought in 2001 and 2009. Other bodybuilders would just get smoked by Ronnie
To me the best indication of high vs low lats is the BDB. A lot of guys look like they have low insertions in the RLS but when they raise their arms you can see the lats don't start until half way up their back (Roelly Winklaar is a prime example of this)
John Romano, former muscular development magazine employee said on rxmuscle that Jay Cutler's left quad is the most photoshopped body part in bodybuilding magazine history. Look back at some 2009/2010 covers and you'll see what he means. It got a little crazy.
2009 was his best condition. His lower back had deteriorated. He was in the 240's or 250's in 2009. The rear double biceps comparison from both years show how much higher his mid back got. I think there was some beeve damage.
Dexter Jackson said that 2001 was better than 2009 in his opinion. It would be awesome for you to do a video comparing 2001 and 2009 Jay Cutler pose by pose!
Jay was the 2nd best condition of all time behind Ronnie, Phil comes close to Ronnie also. Give Dorian some credit in the 96 Grand prix season also! 03 Ronnie GOAT vs 09 Jay vs 13 Heath vs 96 Dorian!
He wasn’t bigger. He was bigger against Ronnie in 2001. He even said so himself. It’s about who you’re standing next to. Lastly 2001 is the better shape. His lats inserted lower back then and his brachioradialis wasn’t melted like in 2009. His waist was smaller in 2001. Sorry but you’re flat out wrong on this one
Jay even defeated dexter jackson in 2004 in the abs and thighs pose Abs and thighs is a pretty strong pose for jay When nobody was able to defeat Ronnie in the abs and thighs in 2004 due to his massive quads, jay defeated ronnie with his mind blowing quads and pretty hard abs(but not symmetrical)
jay has a fridge sized waist and oddly shaped asymmetrical abs, but i will never let that stray my attention from the fact that he had a certified 8pack
Can someone explain to me why jay is considered so great? I love the guy, and he was massive but I felt like he never looked as good as a lot of other guys. Can someone tell me what I’m not seeing?
Thanks for the reply, pal! I’ve learned that it’s more about the qualities of the muscle and structure while maintaining/holding poses. Density, roundness, insertions, dryness, etc. thanks though!
Thanks for the reply, pal! I’ve learned that it’s more about the qualities of the muscle and structure while maintaining/holding poses. Density, roundness, insertions, dryness, etc. thanks though!
no ones been that full that hard that feathered that detailed and that big as jay overall 09.... beats ronnie 98 99 03 that said ronnie was more consitant
That intro is so grating. Don't do it every time, man. Also consider at end of video and/or ditch that loud "ROUR" shit you're basically yelling. Good points otherwise as usual.
His right bicep is so much smaller than his left....or looks that way at least. The front lat spread is a bad shot for him....even when he's dialed in... look at Dennis Wolf or Dorian just to compare how good they look in that pose vs Jay. Jay's best shots are side triceps, ab/thigh and front relaxed
He came in thick, used a different tan I suppose, light brown. Looked different and stood out no doubt but in traditional sense, he lacks asthetics. Top heavy, proprtions of arms to chest not so great. Bigger arms smaller chest always look great.
This is the only time he looked kinda good.jay doesn't have a pleasing physique at all.not close to being one of the best Mr O winners and definitely not deserving half the O titles he won.only bodybuilder i know who is shaped like a refrigerator.bigger isnt always better.he was huge but his arms weren't great,midsection sucked,shoulders didn't pop like others.like he didnt match or something.legs is really only his best part.
@@IvefoundthetruthonMay I'm not being racist here but it's just most African Americans always have those high calves which make it look small. It's just a genetic thing. It's why they are faster and jump higher if I remember correctly. The structure is built for explosive speed and power for jumping. Phil's are okay at best. But I dont see the judges putting too much on the calves for anybody. I never saw a guy and was like wow his calves are why he won out over the other guy.
"Blacks", ie: people of Sub-Saharan origin, are the most genetically diverse group of people on the planet. You simply can't make blankets about them as a group. For instance, Sub-Saharan Africa is home to both the tallest ethnic group in the world and the shortest.
@@mikebird5148 aesthetics should be mandatory. Pleasing to the eye should be the number one factor. Not size or mass but how the lines flow. It's why bodybuilding has fallen as a sport. Mainstream doesn't like just seeing over massed out freaks lumbering around, looking pregnant and getting gassed just from trying to pose. There should be a natural beauty to the body. Sure you can have size but it needs to compliment your lines. I would guys like Flex wheeler, shawn ray, dexter jackson, Kevin levorne Cedric mcmillian are what the sport is supposed to be. Not ronnie Coleman and DorianYates. Yeah they have great backs no doubt but it's just not as pleasing to the eye. Maybe Yates 1993 and Coleman 1998 would be what I think there best was. Besides that it's just size for size sake. No thought put into the flow of the lines of there body. I think Ronnie is the most overrated champion ever and for me ruined the sport. I like jay cause he never had the gut so I thought he should have won every time over ronnie. But I liked a guy like Chris Cormier over jay. Just more appealing to the eye overall and not just size and mass for winning mandatory poses one at a time for a scorecard.
jesus that left quad in the first pic is insane .....shame he had such an ugly waist ,not even blocky just downright not nice to look at ,for me it ruined his physique ...i get the same feeling from roelly its just not right and nothing to do with bubble guts
like if you measure it from side on its a joke twice phils un full detailed back especially since his lats join high that lower back is thicker than most bi ceps.
I know Jay has won a handful of Olympias, and he is in fact one of the great ones, but I don't think he should ever have one the Mr Olympia title. There were always on or two body builders in the show who were just a little bit better.
Despite how well he placed in any particular show, there's no arguing that Jay is one of the greatest.
He finished in the top 2 I think 14 times lol that's insane
Or maybe 10 times . Idk more than a decade which is just insane and will never be repeated
270 lbs with flat stomach !
If he had a smaller waist. It be one of the 3 best physiques of all time. But it's the one thing he didnt have. Jay was a guy with no weak spots. May not be the best anything but had no weak spot. If that waist was a inch or two smaller he would have won atleast 3 to 5 more Os
+Thomas C. yeah he didn't had a waist like Coleman had.. that was the reason why he lost especially in 2001
Cutler persevered more than any mr.Olympia ever... to be stuck behind ronnie all them years and stay at it says more to me than his titles...he also lost and then reclaimed the title !!!
@@thomasc.5219 if you have a smaller waist it will be easier to have a bubble gut.
He was 254 in 2009. But true, he was around 270 or more in earlier years and still kept his stomach in check.
11:17 the best photo of bodybuilding history ... epic
le Art yeah because that’s what’s he said.
Definitely!
A work of art.
For me 2009 and 2001 are equal (but 09 is probably a bit superior). With 2001 having a slightly better upper body and back but 2009 being bigger and better legs.
I would say the order of his best shapes would be
* 2001/2009 Olympia (slight edge to 09)
Then I would say 2003 night of champions would be next.
Absolutely agree! Man, that 2009 product was just amazing. I remember watching just going WTF???? Great shape.
He also looked really good at the 2002 Arnold and probably would have one if he brought that shape to the 2002 Olympia
My favorite shape of jay was 2003 ironman, where he nailed everything, from body to posing
He also looked great there!
Best package of the entire era there
Exactly.... fullness was crazy
My personal fav are 2001, 03 iron man the most and 09 bcoz of quad stomp only
Jay never had bubble gut in his crear.
DANA SAEED very true, interesting
Lol “crear” but yeah absolutely, might not have had the best abs especially his less than stellar serratus and obliques giving him a much wider and often spilled over look but I’ve never seen him with the bubble bubble bubble gut.
Such a huge, wide mass monster and almost always had a tight stomach.
yh he did lol, he just hid it better than most.
@70mMyWi53 there was a picture from the side while doing a back dubble bicep... it was huge
@70mMyWi53 True but that was because he had to deal with the mass monsters. Otherwise, we would have gotten a 240 jay cutler that would have been more tapered.
2009 the no pose pose with the quad stomp was just epic. When he walked out, he looked like 4-5 inches wider then everyone else. Plus the conditioning was very good, Just insane.
Jay was actually smaller in 09 than in 01. He was 254 in 09 according to himself. He was 260-270 on stage in most previous years. The illusion made him look bigger. His left quad was and has always been bigger than his left. Obviously that 09 stamp was the freakiest quad picture ever taken. His rectus femoris head was more defined than almost any other bodybuilders. He had crazy detail there also because of the seperations, which he lacked in his back and arms. His shoulders were good, but actually got significantly smaller after 09. That could be due to a combination of less testosterone intake/levels, less emphasis on shoulder training, age and that his humeral heads continued to migrate down and anterior in the glenoid cavity, which most often is a result of tight/short lats, pecs and partial or complete biceps tendon ruptures. Notice that on Jay's left shoulder after his proximal biceps tendon tear on 2011. His shoulder never looked the same again.
I always thought Jay looked a little soft upstairs compared to others, like you mentioned as well. That's pretty much it though..
2009, with 2001 right behind it. He was robbed that show.
im liking this channel. good content and he clearly knows his shit
Jay was actually big in 2001. He recently said that in one of his videos on jay cutler tv. I believe he said he was around 265 in 2001 and 255 in 2009
Yeah I saw that video. Surprised me because he def added tons of mass esp to his back by 2006 when he dethroned Ronnie but I guess he downsized a fair bit to come in super dry in 09
2003 Ironman Jay Cutler was epic too
Jay's best ever showning, the 2009 Mr. Olympia, was just jaw-dropping. Take whatever he says and run with it. You simply can't go wrong.
Best physique ever in my opinion
Tomb8er your brilliant, I love your intro. Keep doing what your doing.
qauds were feathers as fuck!
yeah that's the phrase I was looking for! ;)
his stomp pose is the best bodybuilder pic i have ever seen
Jays best shape was in 01. Uncrowned Mr Olympia that year.
After going back and re-examining he looked a bit soft from the back that year. 2009 he was bigger and better IMO
Tomn8er exactly 2009 is such a crazy physique. with this shape he will easily crack the top3.
No way, 2009 he is rounder and fuller, that was def his best year, and I was there! Lol
2009 without question.
Jay was bigger in 01 at 261 and in 09 was down to 254. Condition was better in 01 but muscle maturity is what makes his 09 look superior imo
Yeah i heard him say that recently on his channel. Hard to believe he weighed more in 01 but it's probably because he was drier in 09. Either way I'm sure most his measurements would've been the same or slightly up after 8 years
Jay Cutler from 2001 vs 2009 would be very interesting!
I've seen some comparison videos or photos of Jay 09 vs 01, 08, 10, etc. I really don't know why 09 is the best, because the difference is not _that_ huge. Like, he is on but he was on on quite a few shows as well. Maybe it's a lighting but there's something magical about 09. I tend to say that it's the undisputed alpha-male "I'm here to win and it lights out for you guys" attitude what makes 2009 Jay special. Like he is absolutely sure that no one is a match against him that year, he is so confident. You rarely see that happen. And also it's funny to see how Branch was so let down with his second place when it was announced...like WTF have you been thinking man?! :D Jay is on another level.
It's the lighting but also Jay's conditioning from the back was uncharacteristically good since up until then we'd never rly seen him dialled in from the rear.
I was at this show and Branch even though I do not like his physique at all I gotta admit I was in aw when I seen Branch come out, he looked insane, but Jay was heads and shoulders above everybody
Jay struggle with asymmetry in his legs and arms and even his lats was well documented. What was noteworthy about Jay was that he was one of the few guys to actually fix it and his art massage sessions with Derek Farnsworth were pretty well documented back then.
2001 Olympia, 2003 Ironman, and 2009 Olympia are definitely his top 3 for me, hard to pick a winner though.
He was the man in 2009 undisputed.
I recently saw video footage of Jay Cutler from Mr.O 1999 for the first time. And i have to say: WOW - what a waistline! What a difference this made! A comparison between 1999 and one of his more famous versions would be interesting.
Only flaw Jay had was his blocky waist like Arnold, Jay just didnt do twists and turns in order to make his waist look smallet,..he had wide thick lats, nice round biceps, thick ass chest, great wheels , had a nice side tri shot, always shredded.
Man, Phil Heath has a terrible attitude.
Ain’t have to do Ramy and Wolf like that 😂
One of the best physiques ever on a bodybuilding stage
Jay was just such an unbelievable bodybuilder. The man is a true great.
I thought his 2010 physique was freakier than 09 but maybe it was just the lighting was better
I agree! 2010 Jay was Much More Viscious!!! I personally Think 2010 was his Best!
@@zombslayer4707 yes hard to say honestly his physique was probably about the same 2010 had the better lighting though, his ab and thigh pose looked scary with this lighting
My Top 5 favorite Bodybuilders in no specific order
1. Dorian Yates
2. Arnold Schwarzenegger
3. Ronnie Coleman
4. Lee Priest
5. Jay Cutler
and a very special consideration to Serge the BLACK PANTHER Nubret. Commentors send me your top 5 list and lets compare and contrast!
1. Phil Heath
2. Shawn Ray
3. Charles Clairemont
4. Flex Wheeler
5. Kevin Levrone
where is Jason Blaha?
Not really a critique, but why put them in order if you're gonna say no specific order?
SOLACE214 nah your list is perf in all honestly I tried making my own but it was the same as yours😂
iiFreddy11 fuck, flex a fix it synthol boy
He deserves it as wel for a change I keep feeling you never give him enough credit! It's a fact this man was the best or 2de best bodybuilder of all time 😉
Your video starting is so good 😂😂😂😂
Jay one of few Mr Olympia winners to not have a standout freaky body part.
Quads or shoulders may qualify but I get what you're saying
Mike Bird because he’s balanced
@@Tomn8er could you imagine if his waist was a inch or two smaller. making him have a insane V taper. He be one of the all time best. Especially with those shoulders.
Chris Dickerson? Even '81 Columbu had a standout bodypart.....his gyno!
I think 2005 was also a remarkable showing from jay
He had better back, good quads, also good conditioning and many believed that he should have won that show including me
when i seen him step on stage my mouth dropped. never been a fan of Jays physique but this year he blew me away. STILL NOT super pleasing to look at,still has the horrible melting abs,still not very vascular,still blocky..BUT..over all nobody was touching that..
In my opinion jay was the only bodybuilder that could go head on with Ronnie in his prime in terms of mass and conditioning he brought in 2001 and 2009. Other bodybuilders would just get smoked by Ronnie
Man you nailed Arnolds voice
Jay has high lats?!?!? Outrageous! look at the back lat spread you can see where they insert...
To me the best indication of high vs low lats is the BDB. A lot of guys look like they have low insertions in the RLS but when they raise their arms you can see the lats don't start until half way up their back (Roelly Winklaar is a prime example of this)
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John Romano, former muscular development magazine employee said on rxmuscle that Jay Cutler's left quad is the most photoshopped body part in bodybuilding magazine history. Look back at some 2009/2010 covers and you'll see what he means. It got a little crazy.
2:11 def realxed
Hi Tomn8er, can you do a Vid on why Munzer was never able to pull off a big win?
gotta admit i love your intros
thx dude
Well I don't.
Branch Warren ushered in the modern era of crisp conditioning. He was the Andreas Munzer of his time.
2009 was his best condition. His lower back had deteriorated. He was in the 240's or 250's in 2009. The rear double biceps comparison from both years show how much higher his mid back got. I think there was some beeve damage.
Best quads of the 21st century!!! Period
JC in 2009 was best shape in bodybuilding ever!
Most complete Mr o ever
Dexter Jackson said that 2001 was better than 2009 in his opinion. It would be awesome for you to do a video comparing 2001 and 2009 Jay Cutler pose by pose!
Tomn8er your a funny man with the Arnold mimic's! Sounds a lot like him
Dennis wolf brought a great physique at the 2009 mr Olympia
Maybe you're thinking 2007. Wolf was like 16th in 09 and way off
I personally don't think this is the best version of Culter.
DUDE..jays rear doublebi is SICK this year. Look at the size. The legs. The shoulders. even the glutes..He looks amazing in that shot..
Jay is the GOAT.
Jay was the 2nd best condition of all time behind Ronnie, Phil comes close to Ronnie also. Give Dorian some credit in the 96 Grand prix season also! 03 Ronnie GOAT vs 09 Jay vs 13 Heath vs 96 Dorian!
He wasn’t bigger. He was bigger against Ronnie in 2001. He even said so himself. It’s about who you’re standing next to. Lastly 2001 is the better shape. His lats inserted lower back then and his brachioradialis wasn’t melted like in 2009. His waist was smaller in 2001. Sorry but you’re flat out wrong on this one
2003 iron man was just so inspiring
Jay the best
Jay Cutler my best bodybuilder
Jay even defeated dexter jackson in 2004 in the abs and thighs pose
Abs and thighs is a pretty strong pose for jay
When nobody was able to defeat Ronnie in the abs and thighs in 2004 due to his massive quads, jay defeated ronnie with his mind blowing quads and pretty hard abs(but not symmetrical)
jay has a fridge sized waist and oddly shaped asymmetrical abs, but i will never let that stray my attention from the fact that he had a certified 8pack
2001 was the best jay
Guys today can’t compete with this!
Can someone explain to me why jay is considered so great? I love the guy, and he was massive but I felt like he never looked as good as a lot of other guys. Can someone tell me what I’m not seeing?
Bodybuilding isn’t about who you personally think looks ‘good’? Muscle mass and condition, it’s not that complicated dude
Thanks for the reply, pal! I’ve learned that it’s more about the qualities of the muscle and structure while maintaining/holding poses.
Thanks for the reply, pal! I’ve learned that it’s more about the qualities of the muscle and structure while maintaining/holding poses.
Thanks for the reply, pal! I’ve learned that it’s more about the qualities of the muscle and structure while maintaining/holding poses. Density, roundness, insertions, dryness, etc. thanks though!
Thanks for the reply, pal! I’ve learned that it’s more about the qualities of the muscle and structure while maintaining/holding poses. Density, roundness, insertions, dryness, etc. thanks though!
2001 was his best
no ones been that full that hard that feathered that detailed and that big as jay overall 09.... beats ronnie 98 99 03 that said ronnie was more consitant
01 by far
That intro is so grating. Don't do it every time, man. Also consider at end of video and/or ditch that loud "ROUR" shit you're basically yelling. Good points otherwise as usual.
Mike Rothwell don't like it don't watch
Why is this video on 60fps😶😶
I describe Cutler in 2009 as looking like a Bull on roids!
Looks like a fridge
FDB: "There's no weak point on him here." Bro look at the pathetic forearms 😂
2009 no doubt
What about 2001
no distension but blocky waist ...Robby Robinson pose
His right bicep is so much smaller than his left....or looks that way at least. The front lat spread is a bad shot for him....even when he's dialed in... look at Dennis Wolf or Dorian just to compare how good they look in that pose vs Jay. Jay's best shots are side triceps, ab/thigh and front relaxed
Frank Mogavero he had a bicep tear and surgery maybe the year after. Maybe he had some damage already
He came in thick, used a different tan I suppose, light brown. Looked different and stood out no doubt but in traditional sense, he lacks asthetics. Top heavy, proprtions of arms to chest not so great. Bigger arms smaller chest always look great.
I still prefer 2001.
Abs and traps were a little weak.
WHAT????
JAYS DELTS WERE REMARKABLY UNRVEN AND AFTER THE TEAR THEY WERE REALLY BAD.
LMAO......KNOWN FOR HIS DELTS....YEAH...his fucked up delts.
This is the only time he looked kinda good.jay doesn't have a pleasing physique at all.not close to being one of the best Mr O winners and definitely not deserving half the O titles he won.only bodybuilder i know who is shaped like a refrigerator.bigger isnt always better.he was huge but his arms weren't great,midsection sucked,shoulders didn't pop like others.like he didnt match or something.legs is really only his best part.
Tom platz best quads ever
his triceps dont look so good either
Best legs hands down most Blacks have small calves like Phil Heath
Phil has good calves, what's your point?
@@IvefoundthetruthonMay I'm not being racist here but it's just most African Americans always have those high calves which make it look small. It's just a genetic thing. It's why they are faster and jump higher if I remember correctly. The structure is built for explosive speed and power for jumping. Phil's are okay at best. But I dont see the judges putting too much on the calves for anybody. I never saw a guy and was like wow his calves are why he won out over the other guy.
@@thomasc.5219 I get what you mean, it's not racist. And there is 1 guy though, aka Dorian Yates.
"Blacks", ie: people of Sub-Saharan origin, are the most genetically diverse group of people on the planet. You simply can't make blankets about them as a group.
For instance, Sub-Saharan Africa is home to both the tallest ethnic group in the world and the shortest.
Aesthetics... not even once!
MinimalWave1982 it's all about mandatory poses, not aesthetics
@@mikebird5148 aesthetics should be mandatory. Pleasing to the eye should be the number one factor. Not size or mass but how the lines flow. It's why bodybuilding has fallen as a sport. Mainstream doesn't like just seeing over massed out freaks lumbering around, looking pregnant and getting gassed just from trying to pose. There should be a natural beauty to the body. Sure you can have size but it needs to compliment your lines. I would guys like Flex wheeler, shawn ray, dexter jackson, Kevin levorne Cedric mcmillian are what the sport is supposed to be. Not ronnie Coleman and DorianYates. Yeah they have great backs no doubt but it's just not as pleasing to the eye. Maybe Yates 1993 and Coleman 1998 would be what I think there best was. Besides that it's just size for size sake. No thought put into the flow of the lines of there body. I think Ronnie is the most overrated champion ever and for me ruined the sport. I like jay cause he never had the gut so I thought he should have won every time over ronnie. But I liked a guy like Chris Cormier over jay. Just more appealing to the eye overall and not just size and mass for winning mandatory poses one at a time for a scorecard.
Luimarco
jesus that left quad in the first pic is insane .....shame he had such an ugly waist ,not even blocky just downright not nice to look at ,for me it ruined his physique ...i get the same feeling from roelly its just not right and nothing to do with bubble guts
jay 09 easy the best overall physic ever so far
the thickness of the back compared to others just blows them out of the water totally its crazy
like if you measure it from side on its a joke twice phils un full detailed back especially since his lats join high that lower back is thicker than most bi ceps.
I know Jay has won a handful of Olympias, and he is in fact one of the great ones, but I don't think he should ever have one the Mr Olympia title. There were always on or two body builders in the show who were just a little bit better.
zENmONKEY60 who was better in 2009?
SkyWalk Phil and Dexter were nowhere near Jay in 09, Branch looked insane and couldn't touch Jay
Mike Bird lol he realized his mistake and deleted his comment 🌚
photoshopped small head
Your intro is the most annoying voice I could ever listen to , have to skip 10seconds of it every time