Jim Cornette on Crockett Cup '86 Being In New Orleans
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I was at crockett cup in New Orleans,had the time of my life!
I’m from New Orleans and I went to this event. In 1986, NOLA had a recession with the oil bust. That’s why it was so slow
Crockett should have had the event in Greensboro, Charlotte, or Atlanta.
Steve Smith My Dad took us to the Jim Crockett Sr. Memorial Cup in 1987 in our hometown of Baltimore! We couldn't afford to go to both dayscouldn't, so we went the second day to see the champions crowned. The Baltimore Arena was packed to capacity and my little brother cried when the Road Warriors were eliminated! LOL
@@HoustonIsImmortal 87 was the best Crockett Cup in my opinion.
...or Baltimore.
For those curious, Superdome Attendance for Mid South in August of 1985 saw 15,800 for a show headlined by Ric Flair vs. Butch Reed and Kamala & Kareem Muhammad vs. Bill Watts & Jim Duggan in a Loser Leaves Town match. November of 1985 saw 16,000 for the Starrcade closed circuit showing with three live matches (Jake Roberts vs. Humongous headlining). After the Crockett Cup drew 3,500 and 13,000 for the two shows on April 19th, 1986, the next Mid-South Superdome show was June 1986 bringing in 11,000 for Watts, Rhodes & Steve Williams vs Ivan & Nikita Koloff and Kortshia Korchenko. November 1986 drew 13,000 for a double match main event (both happening simultaneously) in two rings: Steve Williams vs. Michael Hayes in a cage and Terry Taylor vs. Buddy Roberts in a barbed wire cage. After that, none of the Mid South Superdome shows came close to 4,000.
I graduated high school in 1985(Mid-South was my home territory) and believe me, jobs were hard to come by & if you got one, you held onto it no matter how shitty it was. I remember going down the street and literally going from one business to next filling out job applications, didn't matter what the business was, you fill one out, go next door, fill out one, go to the next... I ended up going into the military just so I knew I would have a paycheck for the next 4 years.
tony93666 Wow. That's crazy. Hey thanks for sharing that. It's different coming from someone who lived through it. #Salute
I grew up on the Gulf Coast and am two yrs older than you tony93666. I have to ask what area did you live in specifically. Jobs were plentiful to my recollection back then.
NWA/JCP & Mid South/UWF merger done the right way (instead of the UWF being bought out) it would have created WCW the right way.
Went to and watched both shows. Many of the afternoon show matches were lackluster at best but getting to see so many wrestlers from all over the world that I had only read about was pretty exciting. The evening show was pretty damned good with my fave being the Fantastics vs Sheepherders.
diggitydave3000 I couldn't have put it better myself. I hated that they ended up as the "Bushwhackers" during WWF's cartoon clown days. First time I saw the Sheepherders live was in Biloxi, MS when they and their opponents, the Bruise Brothers first hit Mid-South. There was no match, the Sheepherders just came out, kicked the crap out of the Bruise Brothers and nearly incited a riot with the fans, lol. I have been to dozens and dozens of live shows but never ever did I see someone get the fans and police into that much of a lather....
diggitydave3000 Luckily, where I lived, (MS Gulf Coast) TV brought us of course Mid-South, Continental out of Alabama, WCCW from Dallas, Georgia Championship Wrestling/later Mid-Atlantic Jim Crockett on TBS, so I got to see about 5 hours per week. I didn't start watching pro wrestling until I had just turned 15 and moved to the Gulf Coast in 1980 and found Mid-South late one night on TV. I was hooked from the get go, lol. Pretty awesome that you actually lived in the Crockett's area and got to see the stars you did! You mentioned that you saw the Freebirds Garvin/Hayes, well I was able to see the first incarnation of Hayes/Gordy and then I believe it was the summer of 1980 that they included Buddy Roberts. Both of those versions always brought the house down. They were the first true heels that fans actually loved sort of like today's era. Once I started driving, I never missed any shows in Biloxi and hit most of the big shows at the Superdome in New Orleans. I accidentally found out where all of the wrestlers would stop to fuel up (gas, beer and food) at a 7-11 near the MS Gulf Coast Coliseum one night after the show and I had stopped to get a soda. I always went there after the shows and the wrestlers would all start drifting in. They always kept kayfabe where the faces would all come first and then the heels a bit later. It was pretty awesome shooting the sh*t with them for a while because they weren't in a hurry to get on the road. The only ones I never met were the Freebirds because as I found out later, they hit the clubs on the coast instead of going to the store, lol but I pretty much met quite a few times over every other wrestler that passed through the territory between 1980 and 1986. Most of them remembered me from being at the matches and 7-11 every time. The way I had so much success was that I didn't act like a fan, just let them approach me...
diggitydog3000 No, I didn't see when Eddie Gilbert was in Alabama....I had quit watching a couple years before because it started getting outlandish with videos of Robert Fuller and Jimmy Golden. In that era it was on it's last legs. Gone were the likes of Bob Armstrong, Jos LeDuc etc. It does my heart good to know that you were so young at the time but totally appreciate the REAL territory days before McMahon sucked all the top performers away and brought them to his clown show. I'm just glad that people like us can enjoy the old territories via RUclips.....Take a look at this match, hopefully you'll enjoy it and haven't seen it yet. Watch this one first and then the next. ruclips.net/video/_f5oG6FaQBs/видео.html ruclips.net/video/PbeVqhnHKbU/видео.html
diggitydave3000 My GOD man, you are a virtual wrestling historian!! I bow and give you all of the deserved respect in the world! Honestly, you should somehow get together with Jim Cornett or Chris Jericho. Y'all could do an awesome weekly podcast together and I'd be your first subscriber. I have talked to my fair share of good wrestling fans but never anyone with as much knowledge base as yourself. From everything you've written, I now know that you and I are cut from the same cloth. Not only are we fans, but students of the business. I cut my teeth watching Mid-South matches very closely and studying them to figure out how they did this and that. I've even sat with my friends watching PPV's weekly TV etc. critiquing matches, wrestlers, booking and everything about the business. I am just as intrigued with what goes on behind the scenes and in the lives of the performers as I am with great matches. As for your long post, please, do NOT be sorry, I enjoyed the hell out of reading it!!
Robert D all matches were good I thought
The mid south territory economy was on it's ass, I wouldn't have touched watts territory with a ten foot pole, don't buy it, just let it die and get whatever talent you can.
Mid South started to decline in 1984 after JYD went to the WWF. R&R Express and Midnight Express went to the NWA in 1985. Mid South was loaded with talent in 1984.
Loaded with talent, but even if they had all that talent in 85 or 86 it still would have went down with the economy.
The economy really hurt Watts in late 86.
And dumb business decisions too (Trying to put fritz out of business, bringing in who knows how many bookers, etc.) - Edited for a mistake, have a migraine, sorry.
I got a Wendy's advertisement before this video lol.
From what i saw of mid south uwf they had good wrestling the freebirds ted dibiase steve williams terry taylor one man gang chris adams plus jim ross
please do a full episode on this show
I really really miss Sensational Sherri 💋
24 teams is a bit much for a tournament in one day.
Its fucking epic
It sounds good on paper but doesn’t work in execution. It’s like WCW WW3 and 60 man battle royal. It must have been a mess to watch live.
Should've held it over a weekend. 2 days. Sat/sun. Evening
Good old JR has forgotten more about mid south or just wrestling than you will ever know. And I mean nothing bad just speaking the truth
That's the problem. Hes forgotten
You mean Conrad?
I liked the 86 lineup, and the matchups better than the 87.
The fabs, williams/Taylor, koloffs, RnR, landel/dundee valiant/fernadnes, magnum/garvin ect.
The windham/flair match was the exception. That match would be the ultimate anywhere.
Is it just me or is Jim sound a little buzzed or under the weather in this one
Sounded like he was on the throne to put it mildly
Top 24 teams in wrestling? Many promotions not invited
Stop repeatedly asking questions from your favorites, Brian.
i can not believe he just knocked j r
Ask better questions then