I feel like Quinn was such an underrated character. She was a great friend and character and had a wonderful story, but the directors didn't put that much importance to her in the later seasons...
If look closely you'll see that Quinn is trying to protect Rachel but is trying to be mean. I always thought that they had this unique relationship. Almost like mother and daughter or big sis and little sis.
@@jayxfrost8987 she is arrogant and self-centred but she always realises when she's wrong and makes up for it, she was a lot kinder than Quinn in the earlier seasons
yasmin Well even though I don’t like Lea Michelle anymore, the actress and character are two different people and Rachel doesn’t have anything to do with Lea being called out.
Rachel was being honest and blunt not insulting quinn tho? and rachel only retaliated to what quinn said before her! from the words of Rachel : don't try to rewrite history
He’s the sweet boy next door that has the potential of being the most faithful husband and dad that a lot of women have difficulty finding in this world. He’s a teen and makes mistakes because he is influenced easily, but when he learns his lesson, he is absolutely loyal to those morals.
Chloe1210 you can’t complain that someone is whiney and selfish and then talk about how much you love faberry like whiney and selfish isn’t basically the subtitle for rachel’s character lol this is glee. everyone sucks
@gabi. No, she was honest. Quinn is admittedly depressed right now because she doesn't see a future for herself, hence why no longer being with Finn is a GOOD thing for Quinn since it means she is no longer trapped in Lima, but she basically predicted the problem Rachel and Finn had a as a couple when Rachel was all set for NYC. Finn WANTS to stay in Lima, he wants to take over Burt's shop and have a "normal" life there. Which is great, no shame in that, but it's an incompatible lifestyle with anyone who wants to get out of Lima. Rachel wants to be a Broadway star and make a living out of it (which, yes, it's an issue given how even Broadway stars need to supplement their income with other jobs), which means she needs to go to NYC to make it and hope to make at least a living out of it. Quinn really wants out but is depressed and has RESIGNED herself to being stuck in Lima as a miserable wife to someone as her lot in life, so she is wrong about that bit since it would result in divorce in the long term (but, again, I'd say it's the depression talking), but she is right that this problem would bite Rachel and Finn in the ass. And she was right, remember all the passive-aggressive tricks Finn was pulling to get Rachel to STAY in Lima when she was going to NYC? Even though going to NYC and make it big as a Broadway star is ALL Rachel talked about? Even when Finn "learned his lesson" and they compromised by having Finn stay to help Shuester and Rachel went to NYC, that's really more of a bandaid than a long-term solution. Had Finn not died, ONE of them would have to give up a lifestyle/dream job for the sake of the relationship (and so lead to resentment) OR they would have split up. Quinn might be at the bottom of her own hole of despair and resignation to realize that she COULD get out of Lima and dumping Finn was the first step to stop feeling trapped. But she wasn't wrong about the inherent problems in the Rachel/Finn pairing and how that was going to be a major point of contention the second they graduated.
@gabi. how is SHE the jealous one when she had finn and rachel didn't? rachel was all "he chose me over you" just to make herself feel better about finn dumping her so no, rachel was the one being a jealous bitch
The only reason they’re writing a song together is literally so Quinn can get Rachel close to her because “keep your enemies close” so. Leave Rachel alone
I may be overthinking this, but I think this scene was meant to show how Quinn actually cares about Rachel. Quinn knew that Rachel was destined to get out of Lima and become a star and she knew that Finn wasn't. She even said in this scene that "You can't hate me for sending you on your way." She was actually trying to tell Rachel that Finn would only drag her down in her road to fame. She was just being mean to Rachel to get her point across and hopefully get it through Rachel's head that she doesn't need Finn. Either that or Quinn's in love with her and is desperately clinging to Finn and being mean to fight off her feelings. (Sorry I read a lot of Faberry fanfiction)
I agree with that partly, but her motives were not quite selfless in my opinion. I think she was trying to send Rachel where she belonged but she also wanted Finn to herself because popularity and winning matters to her, but I guess she can't be blamed. Quinn is a very complex character lol
I think quinn always wanted everything right, perfect popularity, perfect boyfriend, perfect married and family, i think she care more about this than Finn, but i didn't really watch the show, is more fanfic and fandom based hahaha
Not much. She liked Puck better she just didn't admit it to herself yet. She didn't care much about Rachel, but I think what she said was true. She was helping Rachel move on.
true enough, but If i were in Quinn's position, i'd be feeling rather upset if somebody basically said that my boyfriend was going to leave me for them.
True, boyfriends/girlfriends can’t be stolen. But she is still at fault, for actively going after him, while he was with Quinn. Finn didn’t initially want her.
Finn chose Rachel.Quinn lost Finn all by herself when she got pregnant by puck. Then when she got back with Finn she was a rebound to him. Stealing? Yeah right
Rachel said that because she was hurted by the fact her boyfriend is stolen not because she was mean. Then Quinn answered with that and it made her even more hurted.
@@irene_trsa boyfriends can't be stolen. He chose to go back to quinn that was on him. It was his choice. He could've chosen to get back with rachel but he didn't. That's on him. If he realized he loved her enough at that point he would've forgiven her but he still had pent up feelings for quinn that he had to get out of his system before realizing he loved rachel more. He convinced quinn to cheat on sam because of it. Now i admit finn's not my favorite character and i'm not trying to defend him or be mean to you (sorry if it seems like that. I or nobody else should be mean to you) it's just the way it is.
Am I the only one who thinks Finn was actually the ass here? I mean, I love him, but he did this more than once, dumping Quinn for Rachel and dumping Rachel for Quinn.. The girls didn't really have control over what was happening, seeing as Quinn TRIED to move on with Sam but got kissed by Finn anyway, her feelings for him not really working in that aspect. Rachel was naive with relationships, an invisible geek overwhelmed by the fact the most popular guy in school chose HER, and Quinn, although she was doing it for her own gain, was also in this moment trying to help Rachel because she knew Rachel was going places and Finn would drag her down. "You can't blame me for helping you on your way." And although I know Finn wasn't doing this maliciously at all, he was still a big idiot when it came to his relationships.
Honestly, the thing where Finn responded to Quinn's "I love Sam" with "No you don't!" (and I'm going to keep at it until you get back with me) was a dick move. He was a terrible boyfriend and clingy as hell and the fact that he never respected Quinn's "no, I don't want to be with you anymore" just makes him shady and or selfish. Like, no dude, you can't keep playing this asshole ping pong game (Quinn really should've stuck to her guns and stayed with Sam who was best boyfriend I swear)
Caitlin Sloan omg yes! Quinn wants nothing but to get out of Lima, but she knows if she stays with Finn, she's not gonna leave, never. And she has kind of accepted that, that there is no 'big future' for her. But she knows Rachel has clear dreams that she can acomplish, and Finn will only drag her down. This is prestage fpr their conversation when Quinn gets into Yale
Rachel didn’t cheat on him? He’d broken up with her when she dated Brodie, they weren’t together. And Rachel tried to be as loyal to Brodie as she could before she found out who he was and broke up with him. Quinn cheated on Finn, but she paid for it dearly. And Finn still dated her again and again after that.
LOL my bad, that was my assumption when you said "yay faberry!". A lot of people don't SOLELY like them as a friendship. Regardless, my point still stands. No healthy friendship or any type of relationship should inspire a song about not feeling good enough.
Valerie Karina I may not ship them, but I like them. I'm more of an Achele shipper and it may affect me on how I see the two characters. Even so, life is not that black and white, Valerie. We can actually be hurt by close friends or learn something from your enemies (if you want to see Faberry as enemies). Your way of seeing things are too simple and Glee is not Disney. You can have your opinion of course, but if you actually hold on to this way of thinking in your own real life, you are going to lose a lot of good friends just because of a little bit mistakes here and there. We are not saints, are we not? (this is rhetoric btw). Either way, it already says a lot what kind of person you are. Going to a comment about a relationship of two fictional characters you disapprove and you just have to make a comment. I guess you have a lot of free time in your hand?
You've made a lot of assumptions about me based off what I've commented, so I'm just gonna defend myself. I believe in redemption and forgiveness, I just don't believe in friendships where you are made to feel less than or unworthy. Your implication would suggest you believe bullying in a friendship is okay as long as the person says they're sorry eventually and I just don't agree with that, and I hope that isn't the case for you. Quinn often made Rachel feel inadequate and like she wasn't good enough, that's just a fact. I actually like the friendship they eventually were able to have, I just don't like people trying to rewrite history and act as though they've been best friends who have always been lovely to each other. Quinn has been vindictive and cruel, and Rachel obviously has done bad things like make out with her boyfriend. It's a complicated relationship to say the least. And also, considering you responded wouldn't that also suggest you have a lot of time on your hands? It's a RUclips comment, it takes less than a minute and it's incredibly insignificant.
I never saw this scene as Quinn being mean lmao. She really seemed like she was genuinely trying to help Rachel here, and I always got the feeling that when she was talking about her and Finn’s future, it seemed more like a sacrifice than a “haha I won” moment.
I never thought Quinn had any real feelings for Finn. I think she fought for him so much because she wanted the perfect "quartback-cheerleader" happy ending. I think she wanted to love Finn but couldn't deny the chemistry between he and Rachel and finally backed off.
I think Finn wanted to love Finn as he was safe but I think she always loved Puck but was to afraid of getting her heartbroken as Puck before he cleaned his act up wasn't somebody she could trust not to break her heart
Rachel: *reminds Quinn she stole her boyfriend* *tells Quinn she plans to keep going after Finn even though he’s in a relationship with Quinn again* Also Rachel: why are you being so mean?
Aziza Hussein Finn Rachel just kissed. Quinn let another man inside her and pushed a whole other mans baby out. Both bad but very different levels of cheating.
This is one of the best scenes ever in Glee. Maybe the best scene ever. Quinn thought she was telling it like it really is, but she underestimates Rachel and Finn's feelings.
To be fair to Quinn, she read Finn's fear for the future and fear of being alone right at that time. Remember how Finn proposed to Rachel when she was about to leave in an attempt to make her stay because HE was scared of leaving or of being alone? Quinn read him correctly as a guy whose comfort zone was limited to Lima and who wouldn't want to leave, so when you combine that with Rachel's determination and dream of going to New York and becoming a Broadway star.... Well, Finn and Rachel's dreams and desires look incompatible as hell. Sure, Rachel and Finn work it out when Finn pulls that move (depending on how you interpret the relationship, that is), but if I was a disinterested observer (and Finn is unattractive to me, so no bias on my count), I'd also think that Rachel and Finn wouldn't last precisely because of the dreams/desires being so incompatible. So, at the time when Quinn made her assessment and pre-character development for Finn? She was right.
I don't think Finn and Rachel are compatible at all. They're two characters thrown together because they don't fit. thats like their whole relationship. I guess because it's supposed to be good for the comedy and drama...idk i preferred Jesse.
I find it odd that Quinn was on the edge of crying and her voice cracked when she said “you don’t belong here Rachel and you can’t hate me for sending you on your way.” Usually when someone mentions that they once stole your boyfriend, wouldn’t you yell and get mad? The last thing you would do is get emotional and cry. I honestly think Quinn did love Rachel.
I think Quinn admired Rachel just as much as Rachel admired her. But they also brought out insecurity in each other. Quinn was the girl Rachel always compared herself to and came up lacking. She had Finn. She was beautiful. She was popular. In Rachel’s eyes, Quinn had everything. But the way Quinn talks here reveals her own insecurity- the fear (or as she poses it in this scene inevitability) of being the girl who peaked in high school. Rachel has talent. Something that’s going to get her out of that town and make her special. All her glory days are ahead of her not behind. And Quinn doesn’t feel like she has that. She doesn’t see herself clearly. Just like she doesn’t see Finn clearly. Not everyone is meant to be famous. But fame is not the only measure of success. Finn learned that. Quinn was still battling that mentality, even after she got into an Ivy League institution.
“Why you being so mean” Rachel after she asked Quinn to be honest and Quinn only said that she and Finn are together there is a reason why Rachel is my least favourite character
Rachel wanted to hear ether praise and sugar coated version of the truth and she didn't get it from Quinn and don't why she expected and acted all why are you being mean I mean Quinn and her weren't friends then and Quinn didn't have time for Rachel People might think Quinn didn't need to be a bitch but Rachel was a bitch to others and I think Quinn toke her down a peg or two and at the same time helped Rachel in a away let go of her emotions and write an song that loads of meaning Now if Quinn had brought up Rachel's looks and knocked her talent I would call that mean
@@beryla4979 always acting like the victim?? That’s literally Quinn Fabray?? Lol I love Quinn she was always in denial, and Rachel is actually a victim
Y'all are mad at Quinn but she kinda get a point here. However if she really loved Finn or not Finn was the one coming back to her after breaking up with Rachel.
PerriesKiwi Exactly! Yes Quinn made a mistake in season 1 by cheating on Finn but that was her boyfriend first. I didn't understand why Rachel was so pissed at Quinn. Yes ultimate Finn was gonna be with Rachel but Rachel should have known Quinn and Finn had history. Everyone is attacking Quinn but Quinn had to deal with Rachel flirting with her bf throughout season 1 she even told her to back off him. Now Rachel is mad because Finn is with Quinn again. I can recall Rachel pushing the ideal to Finn about him and her being an item in episode 1 or 2 in the first season. He even told her he had a GF (who happens to be Quinn) I just never like Rachel because she continue to flirt with Finn in season 2 when he's in a relationship.
They have such an interesting dynamic, shame we sort of forgot about it. I always thought that Rachel and Finn actually didn't belong together. He was a small town boy with small dreams, but she was destined to be a star, it would have been nice to show how people have to grow out of school dreams and teen love to trully grow up
+XFabuMazX okay so quinn is in love with rachel. quinn is pretty much dating finn not only to be prom queen, but so she can keep him away from rachel. there's so many examples. example one: season one quinn says something along the lines of "guys may cheat *yada yada yada* just don't do it with HER". example two: season three she says to rachel "i don't want you to ruin your life by marrying FINN HUDSON" like who cares about the fact that she's getting married it just matters that it's finn. if this isn't enough idk what is
+Abegail Bautista Okay, it's cute that FaBerry shippers have this thing for them, but the fact people think Quinn actually has feelings for her is concerning. Quinn does NOT have feelings for Rachel, or vice versa. They're just friends. Being supportive, giving advice, or complimenting someone doesn't automatically mean "Crush." FaBerry never had a chance of ever, ever happening because Rachel is straight, the only sapphic thing Quinn ever did was just an experiment. They both love boys, and neither of them ever had any feelings for each other besides friendship. Honestly, even when Quinn breathes all the insane FaBerry fans are like "OH MY GOD, SHE BREATHED FOR RACHEL! THEY WILL TOTALLY BE TOGETHER, OH EM GEEE!" It'll never be more than a crack ship, and the only time Quinn ever had feelings for Rachel is in the million Faberry fanfictions on the internet. You want Faberry sexual tension? Well you aren't going to find it on this hsow...
ᴠᴇʀɪᴛʏ ᴊᴜᴅᴇ :D I mean it wasn’t a wake up call. Leah didn’t change in her apology she basically said she was sorry they felt that way she got exposed, yeah but she didn’t learn from it
They tried to portray Quinn as mean in this episode, but she is only doing this to protect Rachel. She knew that Rachel was a star that was going to leave Lima. She also knew that Finn wasn’t. You can blame Quinn for wanting to protecting Rachel.
+Deb Cox No, Quinn was right. In the end, if Finn didn't let her go she would've had a year delay in NYADA. Quinn was the logical one here, while Rachel was just being awful and obnoxious
Breakaway there's nothing wrong with taking a year off between highschool and college. Either way she still would've gone to NYCU and they would be together. Quinn was wrong
Okay, this honestly shows how much Quinn cared about Rachel, yes, but besides that point, this was the saddest scene ever in my opinion, I think I cried all night while watching. I personally related to Rachel so much. I was always that kid that loved to sing, and loved the arts, and I believed I could one day get to be a star, and no matter what I did, how I performed on stage, people still say I'm unrealistic, and that I'll never get there. But I believe in hope, and glee gave this to me. I will get there one day. It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but one day, my dream will come true. And I won't thank any of those people in my award speech. Sorry, just had to rant
rachel writing that get it right song finally makes her realize and feels what true famous performers and professionals like her idol barbra straisand feels when they take their real life pain and emotions and turns it into beautiful powerful art and rachel has quinn to thank for that
am i the only one thats noticed that dianna (quinn) was kinda holding her tears im this scene? i mean, this was meant to be a bad scene, were quinn should be angry at rachel or wtv, its kinda weird, her expression
I really hated Quinn for what she said, yeah I understand Rachel was not letting it go but I honestly get Rachel. Finn was her first boyfriend, the first guy that made her feel special and loved. She never thought a guy like him would choose her. When you have been in someones shoes its easier for you to get why Rachel was acting that way. She's in high school and with never having experience with relationships she didn't know how to quite grasp the idea of letting go. She wanted to hold on to that because to her what she thought impossible happened, I get that Quinn wanted to make her open her eyes to finally let go, and perhaps maybe protect her from getting even more hut in the process. But because it came from Quinn, the girl who Finn broke up with to be with her, instead of making Rachel understand it hurt her and it made her think that she's not good enough.
+MsSoffsG Still, Rachel had no right to say it wasn't over between them. Quinn was in a really sensitive place at that time, and her life was finally getting back together. The fact Rachel would say that as she was recovering from her drama from last year was completely impolite. Quinn was right to give her a wake up call, Rachel should've butted out of Quinn's personal life from the start and let her be happy at least once.
Quinn didn’t mean that Rachel will become a toilet cleaner in Ohio. What she meant was, while Rachel will be accomplishing her dreams elsewhere Quinn and Finn will stay. Ofcourse she didn’t say it in the best way but they’re teens at the moment too.
Quinn is smarter and wiser than she was, bc she got pregnant in S1. That’s how she changed. And she and Finn both know they don’t like each other, at least she did but Finns the one being the joker
I'm surprised that so many people appear to be misinterpreting this scene IMO. This scene is really about Quinn projecting her own issues on to Rachel. In reality, it's Quinn who is the one who is living in this schoolgirl fantasy. Quinn wants to be prom queen and wants to be with Finn again to help bury the pain/humiliation of what she went through the year before by putting them back on the path that they were on before Quinn cheated on him with Puck. She wants her happy ending with Finn only because she thinks it will fulfill her dream of being powerful, popular, loved, accepted, and looked up to for life. Rachel is the only obstacle to that so Quinn wants to get rid of her.
Exactly! When Quinn says "You don't belong here," she's not talking about Lima Heights and saying Rachel is meant for greater things. She's talking about the fairytale of her and Finn and saying there is no happy ending for Rachel if she keeps trying to win back Finn. Of course, Quinn won't find that happy ending with Finn either, certainly not as she describes it (her dream to be a "successful... real estate agent" could be comedic in a different setting but she says it like she'll have to learn to be content with it rather than with any enthusiasm/passion) but she's never really been shown another way to be happy. Even her relationship with Sam was fairly shallow and had certain expectations. She's convinced that her cliché will overcome Rachel's.
Everybody hates Rachel but honestly she is my favorite character. I admire how brave and confident she is. And I love her singing voice. She is really talented. I feel bad that she is never taken seriously.
Brandon Hagan The reason she was the star was because she tried the hardest rather than having the best voice. Rachel was the sole character who FELT her performances. Let me remind you that Mercedes constantly said she worked just as hard as Rachel when there were two instances where she was shown as lazy. The first time was during the rehearsal for their first mash-up; Rachel was insisting everyone work hard to be ready for the boys but even Mercedes was telling her to relax and kick back. She even said ‘wing it’. Rachel refused. The next instance was where they had dance boot camp and every other character was working hard but Mercedes wasn’t. She kept coming in late and stopped in the middle of every dance number due to ‘exhaustion’. And instead of accepting the criticism Mr. Shuester gave, she decided to insult Rachel for whatever reason despite Rachel working hard to be the leader and the star she was. Why is she the star exactly? She was the only one who pulled her weight the ENTIRE series.
PrettyLittle Harmony She literally made several excuses in one sentence. Even Santana of all people told her off for it. When Shuester insisted he was fine, she switched her excuse to being hungry. It didn’t make any sense. While, yes, Shuester pushed her a tad harder than the others, it’s not as if it came out of nowhere. Mercedes was coming in late and hardly tried. Even Finn progressed and it was shown that he was the worst dancer. Mercedes is a great, talented character, but she can’t insist she deserved the solos when she did nothing to earn them.
Quinn never believed she could get out of Lima. She thought she was destined to be stuck there forever. But she knew Rachel could get out and even though she did it in a mean way, she was secretly pushing her towards choosing dreams over Finn. I’m glad they were both able to get out and that neither had to give up their dreams.
I never understood why they were fighting over Finn all the time. He was a man child, everytime he broke up with them suddenly when someone else had them he wanted them back, like a child with a toy. He could never made up his mind and constantly was blaming them because the relationship didn't work out.
What quinn said was true though.... she didnt belong in ohio, she was born to live in the big city on stag and finn was preventing her from reaching her full potential like we saw in season 4
Watching the love shitfest between Finn, Rachel, and Quinn was exhausting. All three of them were guilty. Quinn cheated on Finn and forever severed the possibility of Finn being loyal to her ever again. Finn cheated on Quinn with Rachel when he should have just broken up with her. Rachel should have never received Finn's affections while still with Quinn, a shit move on her part. And Rachel isn't innocent as she would sow seeds of mistrust and affection between Finn and Quinn while maintaining a good-girl act.
I think that the real reason why Quinn is crying while saying all those things about their future is because she doesn’t actually want all that, but still she thinks that it is the only future that she can have. She is the one living in the schoolgirl fantasy, not Rachel and she’s well aware of it, even though she doesn’t really want that life. Being the head cheerleader, being prom queen, having the popular boy... she never actually wanted that, she’s just doing what others aspect her to do.
I never really understood why Quinn was getting so emotional towards Rachel? Was it because she knew her and Finn would stay in Lima and Rachel gets to leave and be something? or was it Quinn letting Rachel go to pursue her dreams? I'm just confused lol
petrinajc At the point of season 2 I thought it was because Quinn wanted Rachel to leave town so she can be happy with Finn. But then on season 3 Quinn again tells Rachel to dump Finn and follow her dreams (Quinn was going to Yale and Finn was staying in Lima with Puck) so I think she actually cared for Rachel.
I'm pretty sure in s2 it was just a current girlfriend being annoyed that an ex who she felt threatened by wouldn't give up on the idea of being a couple. Cause let's be real, Quinn knew that Finn was always gonna love Rachel, she just didn't want to admit it to herself. As far as s3, Quinn held the mentality that high school relationships couldn't go beyond high school realistically (which obviously isn't true) but she probably felt like she was doing Rachel a favour by giving her that advice.
PJ Reactions I feel that Quinn even though she was Captain of the Cheerios, Beautiful, Popular Finn would always choose Rachel I feel that Quinn felt less than Rachel even though it’s hard to believe and she thought if she got what Rachel wanted it would make her better, specially winning prom queen. Rachel’s confidence is outstanding but she also has those moments were you just can’t do it anymore people try and break her but guess what she actually wrote a killer song and was on broadway as the lead character went to Nyada University went to NY and was engaged to Finn got a Tony award so I guess it worked out for her Except the part were she loses her soulmate after she tried so hard in high school to keep him and he passed away.... Quinn got accepted to Yale university but only because she was Preggers!!!
Thing is, Quinn is good at reading people and can be very pragmatic at times (sometimes to the point that she could come off as cold). At this point, Quinn sees no way for her to leave Lima due to lack of opportunities (mostly because she's honestly going through post-partum depression right now and can't see it so) she's resigned to remaining and making the best of it, meanwhile Rachel wants to leave and thanks to her fathers and Broadway actress mom has the means to leave. Finn, on the other hand, will stay in Lima because he's parochial at heart and doesn't want to leave. He LIKES the familiarity of Lima and staying to work at Burt's tire shop or working as a teacher with Shuester remains within his comfort zone. He HATES moving out of his comfort zone and will only budge when pushed to (such as Shuester blackmailing him to get to the Glee club otherwise he'd NEVER have joined). You have to admit, looking at it like that, Finn and Rachel are incompatible as all fuck. I mean, am I the only one that remembers how Finn proposed to Rachel as a manipulative tactic so she would STAY IN LIMA? This is a guy who HATES change and hates being alone and HATES the thought of leaving his comfort zone (which is Lima). Seriously, don't ask this guy to leave Lima for anything longer than a competition or a vacation because he WILL be miserable (at least, that's how he was since the show's conception until he died, maybe he would've grown out of it, but I doubt it, it's such an intrinsic part of him just like wanting to work as a Broadway singer was such an intrinsic part of Rachel). Generally speaking, two people with THAT huge incompatibility would not work out as a couple without A LOT of compromises and long-distance relationship moments and constant communication between them... which neither did much. Yes, they were dumb teens, but when you have a lifestyle incompatibility like the above, then the couple either doesn't work out or needs to commicate and compromise a hell of a lot more than the average couple happy. (I'm not even going to get into a rage rant about early marriages damn near straight out of high school or thereabouts... which they did with Kurt and Blaine and Brittany and Santana anyway, but that's another issue) Now, mind you, Quinn and Finn are also incompatible because Quinn also wants out, it's just that Quinn is in the middle of a depression right now and THINKS she can't get out of Lima as she lamented in S1. This is her thinking of making the best of it while self-sabotaging her chances of real happiness (i.e. not sticking to her guns about loving Sam, who was the best boyfriend ever, I swear, WHY did she have to be in a self-destructive hit then, depression sucks!). But truthfully, she does have a point in that, whoever Finn winds up with (or doesn't wind up with), the end result is the same: Rachel leaves for NYC since that's an unchangeable plan for her and she has the opportunity thanks to the parents, while Finn stays because he WON'T leave his home and if he does he will be miserable. She was right. This is an incompatible couple. Even Finn agreed to it by "letting her go"
Ok I know lea Michelle isn't a good person and Rachel is self centered but why is the comment section acting like Quinn is so nice. She's just as mean as Rachel here. People will jump through hoops to describe Quinn as nice but ignore every nice thing Rachel does and only note the mean things. Quinn is a bully, tried to frame one man as a father to her child who wasn't and frequently put down the actual father of her child and constantly tried to remind Rachel of how she was better than her simply because she wanted her perfect prom queen life. She's just the same as Rachel only quieter about it. What about when Rachel tried to protect Quinn from people finding out she was pregnant? What about when she and Finn purposely threw the duet competition so Quinn and Sam would feel more confident? She's not all evil. She's just very driven
You can't just say "It isn't over between us" to the guys girlfriend. It's as good as saying that she's hoping that they'll break up or that she'll try to steal him back from her.
Quinn: *"How many times do you have to make the same mistake* to realize *it's not going to works out"* Me: BUT HOW MANY TIMES WILL IT TAAAAAKE? OOH HOW MANY TIMES WILL IT TAKE FOR MEEEEE TO GET IT RIIIIIIIGHT
How I wanna justify Quinn's "meaness": she already has something planned out for both her and Finn while also stating how Rachel doesn't belong in Ohio because she deserves to be in New York as a Broadway star.
Out of context it def looks like Rachel’s in the wrong here but earlier in the episode Quinn was literally plotting against her, like I see where she’s coming from
I think one of the reasons Quinn was so obsessed with being high school royalty is because she believed high school was going to be her peak. She didn't really believe she could make a life truly worth having afterwards.
I know you guys think Rachel was being just as mean as Quinn in this scene or that Rachel had no right to cry over this. But please remember, Rachel Berry is one of the most hated people in her school. All she had going for her was her talent. Nobody thought she was pretty and nobody liked her, but they had to sit down and listen when she sung because she was spectacular. This is what caused her to be so cocky because if she didn't make her singing her personality, she would go unnoticed by everyone. But it just ended up making her irritable and hard to be around. When Rachel says "why are you being so mean?" after reminding Quinn that she took Finn wasn't because she was trying to be mean at all. Neither of them was trying to be mean to one another in this scene. All Rachel has when she isn't with Finn is her voice. But when she's with Finn, she has someone who loves her and who thinks she's beautiful. Not to mention who's the star Quarterback and get her a rise in popularity. That's why Rachel tells Quinn she won't stop going after Finn. Because she is desperately chasing after that validation that she is more than just her voice. Thank you for coming yo my TED Talk.
Re-watching this scene I think Quinn’s actions were being misunderstood. I think Quinn believes in Rachel’s potential as a singer and songwriter but is blinded by love, which Quinn sees as a set back. She wants Rachel to realize that Finn has a chance to stop her from reaching her dreams and leaving Lima. She wants Rachel to realize that in order to grow, you need to cut some things that are weighing her down. It shows when Quinn was talking about her future with Finn and how she emphasizes that Finn will take over kurts dads shop. Either that or I’m just overthinking as always
Come to think of it, she always knew rachel will be out from ohio. She said this thing twice.. The second was when she's not even interest in finn. She tell her to let go someone to holding out for her dream. It really does a wakeup call. She wants Rachel to reaching out for her dream, the most clear one. Not like her who gradually wondering where she will be ended up after being pregnant, even after the baby was adopted i see quinn sometimes still confused on what will she do in the future.
*OKAY BUT WAIT* this could be an amazing Faberry plot. I mean just LOOK. Quinn is literally tying herself down to these things: Lima, Finn, and a small life as a real estate agent while Rachel goes on to broadway. She was right. Rachel doesn't belong there, she belongs in New York.. Broadway. Quinn wasn't doing these solely due to her own selfish intentions. Think about it y'all.
I think Quinn was looking out for Rachel because she everyone knows she needs to go to New York and Finn isn’t really suited to that as well, but also she was trying to protect her future, she wanted to settle for Finn because after Beth she didn’t feel she had anything going for her. The end of season 2 and beginning of season 3 supports this, so she wanted some sense of stability in Finn even though she did love him I think she knows that it’s not a forever love but she’s fine with that to have an ok kind of future. Neither of them should stay in Lima anyway! Quinn’s really smart and Rachel’s really talented, they don’t need a guy to dictate their lives at 18
Quin, Sam and Santana and Kirk had the best and most useful storylines ever. They dealt with real life issues while everyone else was just in highshool and Rachel was a big baby
1:36 I know that Quinn's intentions were entirely selfish 79% of the show but this is part of the 21%.she knew Rachel was meant to be a star and leave Lima but Finn wasn't. She probably wants Finn all to herself but at the same time she cares about Rachel and knows that the heartbreak Rachel will feel in the future if she continued having a relationship with Finn while they're apart is gonna be a lot worse compared to the heartbreak she feels now
she IS trying to help her. It's very clear that she thinks Rachel is destined for bigger and better things than staying in Lima with Finn. She's dishing out the truth but Rachel's too invested in her feelings to accept what she's saying. I don't blame Rachel for that, Finn was her first boyfriend after all, but I really wouldn't call what Quinn did in this scene "bullying".
Right ? The worst thing is There are people Who say Rachel was wrong and Quinn right in This scene like wtf ? Quinn was just trying to make Rachel cry but ok
Ok, I love Quinn but this is an epic low for her. I think she only said it because she was a afraid that Finn was going leave her for Rachel (which he eventually did) so in her head she could try to scare her off. She knew how it was going to end (Finn and Rachel getting back together) she didn’t want to admit it.
I side with Quinn in this scene for many reasons. For one, Rachel and Finn were over but Rachel wouldn’t stop being a home wrecker. For two, Quinn knew that Rachel was going to become a star and Finn wouldn’t be able to follow up. She was protecting Rachel.
@@about_alessia0514 I think Quinn loved him at one point, even if Rachel loved him more, but it didn't mater, Rachel was going after someone else's man, and that's wrong.
Damn I know Lea is supposed to be the "star" but Diana stole this scene from her and I'm loving it. I feel like it would have been more interesting if Finn ended up with Quinn and Rachel moved on with her life.
Leave the "Caring for Rachel to help her realize she doesn't need Finn" comments aside..... Am I the only one who thinks that Quinn was a total bitch in this scene? I'll explain To me, Quinn just wants Finn to herself, even though he eventually leaves her for Rachel (again) and it leaves me thinking that she doesn't love HIM, only the IDEA of the perfect boyfriend, perfect popularity status, perfect life as she describes here etc.. Quinn hates the idea of Finn being with anyone that is not her. She knows that Finn loves Rachel but she doesn't care so she acts like that to scare Rachel off so she can have Finn for herself. She wants Rachel to back off at all cost. AND she also knows that Rachel doesn't know any better!! Rachel is naive and she is heartbroken over Finn, who was her first boyfriend, first guy ever to show intrest in her so it's super relatable to me. What does Rachel even know about relationships at this point? Nothing. And Quinn *knows* that. She uses Rachel's naivety for her own gain. She wasn't being "nice" or "caring" here. It doesn't seem to me that she cares about Racel at all. What Quinn does here is NOT a wake up call. It's rubbing her relationship with Finn in Rachel's face, showing her how naive and stupid she's been for thinking Finn will choose her over "The Perfect Girl" which is her, in her eyes of course. Bottom line- This is the bitchiest that I've seen from Quinn. I hate her behavior here, breaking Rachel's heart (in the name of her getting back together with Finn) and stepping on the pieces in the process.
to late(?) they always put that piano background when its a discussion/words fight or a mean character thinking a plan to ruin something, and other scenes that usually involves problematic characters haha (if my english is not very good sorry x_x )
Tbh even though Quinn was wrong about who Finn would be with in the end, Rachel was way out of line here. She's ridiculous, she reminds Quinn than Finn chose her over her, and then once Quinn stands up for herself, Rachel is like "wHy aRe yOu bEiNg sO mEaN" even though Rachel was being cruel first.
You gotta be insane of you think Quinn actually meant that she wanted to help Rachel, she just wanted Rachel out of her damn relationship and told her something she wanted to hear
Such a powerful moment. She gave up on Finn and expressed that pain into an amazing song. People can make wonderful things if they are strong enough to move on, despite the tragedies of life. Thanks Glee...
![GLEE- Rachel asks Quinn if she should marry Finn | Michael [Subtitled] HD](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DLFh09PIR60/mqdefault.jpg)
I forgot that Dianna was such a good actress, she's so good
Yep
she was 😎
@@amyclarke41 She IS
I hate Quinn
BRi iS A WHORE Heck yeah but you have to agree that Dianna is a great actor.
I feel like Quinn was such an underrated character. She was a great friend and character and had a wonderful story, but the directors didn't put that much importance to her in the later seasons...
Read Naya's book. It details a certain actress getting rid of ppl she was threatened by.
Paul O'Brien I doubt that
It was because she was filming movies etc
Paul O'Brien aka Murpys pet
She wasn't a great friend she was a rude and selfish person
If look closely you'll see that Quinn is trying to protect Rachel but is trying to be mean. I always thought that they had this unique relationship. Almost like mother and daughter or big sis and little sis.
I agree or could be more.
more like gay for each other relationship :D
Well, Quinn is a mother :D
jayxfrost yeah after becoming a mom, it changes the personality. Dianna is such a good actress!
Rionet Yeah... even though she’s not raising Beth, biologically she’s still a mom. Nothing can change that.
Quinn could be mean, but Rachel wasn't all that innocent either.
Quinn was sometimes mean, but Rachel was arrogant, spoiled and self-centered brat 24/7.
@@jayxfrost8987 she is arrogant and self-centred but she always realises when she's wrong and makes up for it, she was a lot kinder than Quinn in the earlier seasons
True. Rachel was moving in on Finn while everybody still thought Quinn was pregnant with Finn’s baby. Wtf.
But also lea Michelle who played Rachel, has been called out for being a racist.
yasmin Well even though I don’t like Lea Michelle anymore, the actress and character are two different people and Rachel doesn’t have anything to do with Lea being called out.
"Why are you being so mean?" asks Rachel after insulting Quinn with "He chose me over you."
rachel said "he chose me over you" because Quinn said their relationship was fake and was being unnecessarily mean
She wasn’t being mean she was stating a fact.
q 11 d g😎
ArtByNathan TV Quinn also in that moment
Rachel was being honest and blunt not insulting quinn tho? and rachel only retaliated to what quinn said before her! from the words of Rachel : don't try to rewrite history
Honestly? Can someone explain to me why Finn was such a "prize" to begin with?
Sydney Colquitt quarterback and handsome i suppose
IKR! They would say he was cute, and I’d be like “bitch where?”
i dont know he could sing a bit but was kind of too nice at times i thought puck was more assertive sadly both actors of these left us😣
He’s the sweet boy next door that has the potential of being the most faithful husband and dad that a lot of women have difficulty finding in this world. He’s a teen and makes mistakes because he is influenced easily, but when he learns his lesson, he is absolutely loyal to those morals.
Chloe1210 you can’t complain that someone is whiney and selfish and then talk about how much you love faberry like whiney and selfish isn’t basically the subtitle for rachel’s character lol this is glee. everyone sucks
Quinn's theme song is so creepy, it's always that classical theme that plays when she's about to say something
do you know what it's called???
Chetan Moghe omg ikr, it freaks me out
Chetan Moghe "theme song" 😂
It’s because she’s very complex, and the only thing that can explain her is eerie-sounding music
I love how Quinn mentions Kurt because I love Kurt!😍❤❤❤
Rachel: Be honest with me
Quinn: *Is honest*
Rachel: Why are you being so mean? I’m gonna do this by myself.
@gabi. No, she was honest. Quinn is admittedly depressed right now because she doesn't see a future for herself, hence why no longer being with Finn is a GOOD thing for Quinn since it means she is no longer trapped in Lima, but she basically predicted the problem Rachel and Finn had a as a couple when Rachel was all set for NYC.
Finn WANTS to stay in Lima, he wants to take over Burt's shop and have a "normal" life there. Which is great, no shame in that, but it's an incompatible lifestyle with anyone who wants to get out of Lima.
Rachel wants to be a Broadway star and make a living out of it (which, yes, it's an issue given how even Broadway stars need to supplement their income with other jobs), which means she needs to go to NYC to make it and hope to make at least a living out of it.
Quinn really wants out but is depressed and has RESIGNED herself to being stuck in Lima as a miserable wife to someone as her lot in life, so she is wrong about that bit since it would result in divorce in the long term (but, again, I'd say it's the depression talking), but she is right that this problem would bite Rachel and Finn in the ass.
And she was right, remember all the passive-aggressive tricks Finn was pulling to get Rachel to STAY in Lima when she was going to NYC? Even though going to NYC and make it big as a Broadway star is ALL Rachel talked about?
Even when Finn "learned his lesson" and they compromised by having Finn stay to help Shuester and Rachel went to NYC, that's really more of a bandaid than a long-term solution. Had Finn not died, ONE of them would have to give up a lifestyle/dream job for the sake of the relationship (and so lead to resentment) OR they would have split up.
Quinn might be at the bottom of her own hole of despair and resignation to realize that she COULD get out of Lima and dumping Finn was the first step to stop feeling trapped. But she wasn't wrong about the inherent problems in the Rachel/Finn pairing and how that was going to be a major point of contention the second they graduated.
@@irondragonmaiden periodt.
@gabi. how is SHE the jealous one when she had finn and rachel didn't? rachel was all "he chose me over you" just to make herself feel better about finn dumping her so no, rachel was the one being a jealous bitch
gabi. Shut up 🙄
The only reason they’re writing a song together is literally so Quinn can get Rachel close to her because “keep your enemies close” so. Leave Rachel alone
I may be overthinking this, but I think this scene was meant to show how Quinn actually cares about Rachel. Quinn knew that Rachel was destined to get out of Lima and become a star and she knew that Finn wasn't. She even said in this scene that "You can't hate me for sending you on your way." She was actually trying to tell Rachel that Finn would only drag her down in her road to fame. She was just being mean to Rachel to get her point across and hopefully get it through Rachel's head that she doesn't need Finn.
Either that or Quinn's in love with her and is desperately clinging to Finn and being mean to fight off her feelings. (Sorry I read a lot of Faberry fanfiction)
I agree with that 💯
I agree with that partly, but her motives were not quite selfless in my opinion. I think she was trying to send Rachel where she belonged but she also wanted Finn to herself because popularity and winning matters to her, but I guess she can't be blamed. Quinn is a very complex character lol
I think quinn always wanted everything right, perfect popularity, perfect boyfriend, perfect married and family, i think she care more about this than Finn, but i didn't really watch the show, is more fanfic and fandom based hahaha
You absolutely "Got it Right".
Not much. She liked Puck better she just didn't admit it to herself yet. She didn't care much about Rachel, but I think what she said was true. She was helping Rachel move on.
If Rachel wanted to be friends with Quinn, it was not the best way to start off a friendship by reminding her that she stole her boyfriend.
Boyfriends can't be stolen, that's a childish mentality. People leave of their own accord.
true enough, but If i were in Quinn's position, i'd be feeling rather upset if somebody basically said that my boyfriend was going to leave me for them.
True, boyfriends/girlfriends can’t be stolen. But she is still at fault, for actively going after him, while he was with Quinn. Finn didn’t initially want her.
Finn chose Rachel.Quinn lost Finn all by herself when she got pregnant by puck. Then when she got back with Finn she was a rebound to him. Stealing? Yeah right
I agree and I don't know why she was idolized for that. I thought that was nasty of her
Quinn's really pretty
LorenzYo Cubing not necessary
And also a self centered bitch. Kind of negates the whole pretty thing if you ask me.
Quinn/Diana Agron is beyond pretty. You need a better word. Her beauty stops my heart.
Not really. Beauty is on the inside
That that much
"He chose me over you!"
"And how long did that last?"
"Why are you being so mean?"
R U SERIOUS??!
Princess Phan HAHAHAHA
Don't Care I like both I do get emotional for rachel as a girl like rachel was bullied at my school it turned out she wasn't nice either !😶
Rachel IS nice!
Rachel said that because she was hurted by the fact her boyfriend is stolen not because she was mean. Then Quinn answered with that and it made her even more hurted.
@@irene_trsa boyfriends can't be stolen. He chose to go back to quinn that was on him. It was his choice. He could've chosen to get back with rachel but he didn't. That's on him. If he realized he loved her enough at that point he would've forgiven her but he still had pent up feelings for quinn that he had to get out of his system before realizing he loved rachel more. He convinced quinn to cheat on sam because of it. Now i admit finn's not my favorite character and i'm not trying to defend him or be mean to you (sorry if it seems like that. I or nobody else should be mean to you) it's just the way it is.
Am I the only one who thinks Finn was actually the ass here? I mean, I love him, but he did this more than once, dumping Quinn for Rachel and dumping Rachel for Quinn.. The girls didn't really have control over what was happening, seeing as Quinn TRIED to move on with Sam but got kissed by Finn anyway, her feelings for him not really working in that aspect. Rachel was naive with relationships, an invisible geek overwhelmed by the fact the most popular guy in school chose HER, and Quinn, although she was doing it for her own gain, was also in this moment trying to help Rachel because she knew Rachel was going places and Finn would drag her down. "You can't blame me for helping you on your way." And although I know Finn wasn't doing this maliciously at all, he was still a big idiot when it came to his relationships.
Honestly, the thing where Finn responded to Quinn's "I love Sam" with "No you don't!" (and I'm going to keep at it until you get back with me) was a dick move. He was a terrible boyfriend and clingy as hell and the fact that he never respected Quinn's "no, I don't want to be with you anymore" just makes him shady and or selfish.
Like, no dude, you can't keep playing this asshole ping pong game (Quinn really should've stuck to her guns and stayed with Sam who was best boyfriend I swear)
considering Rachel's cheating on him got them in this situation, I don't think he's being an ass. He's just really indecisive
Caitlin Sloan omg yes! Quinn wants nothing but to get out of Lima, but she knows if she stays with Finn, she's not gonna leave, never. And she has kind of accepted that, that there is no 'big future' for her. But she knows Rachel has clear dreams that she can acomplish, and Finn will only drag her down. This is prestage fpr their conversation when Quinn gets into Yale
Both Quinn and Rachel cheated on him 🤷♀️ sooooo there's that
Rachel didn’t cheat on him? He’d broken up with her when she dated Brodie, they weren’t together.
And Rachel tried to be as loyal to Brodie as she could before she found out who he was and broke up with him.
Quinn cheated on Finn, but she paid for it dearly. And Finn still dated her again and again after that.
The way Quinn's voice cracks😩❤️
I love being reminded that Rachel's amazing original song is inspired with what Quinn said to her. Yay Faberry!
LOL you're happy about the fact that one half of your ship inspired the other half to write a song about not feeling good enough? Awesome 😂
Valerie Karina
No, I dont ship them LOL fail troll
LOL my bad, that was my assumption when you said "yay faberry!". A lot of people don't SOLELY like them as a friendship. Regardless, my point still stands. No healthy friendship or any type of relationship should inspire a song about not feeling good enough.
Valerie Karina
I may not ship them, but I like them. I'm more of an Achele shipper and it may affect me on how I see the two characters. Even so, life is not that black and white, Valerie. We can actually be hurt by close friends or learn something from your enemies (if you want to see Faberry as enemies). Your way of seeing things are too simple and Glee is not Disney. You can have your opinion of course, but if you actually hold on to this way of thinking in your own real life, you are going to lose a lot of good friends just because of a little bit mistakes here and there. We are not saints, are we not? (this is rhetoric btw). Either way, it already says a lot what kind of person you are. Going to a comment about a relationship of two fictional characters you disapprove and you just have to make a comment. I guess you have a lot of free time in your hand?
You've made a lot of assumptions about me based off what I've commented, so I'm just gonna defend myself. I believe in redemption and forgiveness, I just don't believe in friendships where you are made to feel less than or unworthy. Your implication would suggest you believe bullying in a friendship is okay as long as the person says they're sorry eventually and I just don't agree with that, and I hope that isn't the case for you. Quinn often made Rachel feel inadequate and like she wasn't good enough, that's just a fact. I actually like the friendship they eventually were able to have, I just don't like people trying to rewrite history and act as though they've been best friends who have always been lovely to each other. Quinn has been vindictive and cruel, and Rachel obviously has done bad things like make out with her boyfriend. It's a complicated relationship to say the least. And also, considering you responded wouldn't that also suggest you have a lot of time on your hands? It's a RUclips comment, it takes less than a minute and it's incredibly insignificant.
I never saw this scene as Quinn being mean lmao. She really seemed like she was genuinely trying to help Rachel here, and I always got the feeling that when she was talking about her and Finn’s future, it seemed more like a sacrifice than a “haha I won” moment.
Yeah honestly, like to me it sounds like she thinks that life is all she's worth
EXACTLY
Great comment Songbird.
She’s definitely being mean.
@@goldrush18x just my interpretation
Faberry feels, but when Quinn's voice cracked...damn, made me sad
That ain't faberry💀
"He chose me over you"
Yeah, well he also chose Brittany and Santana over you XD
Breakaway not for very long
Breakaway haha
Breakaway ok we get it
Breakaway TRU
Breakaway yeah and how long did that last..
I never thought Quinn had any real feelings for Finn. I think she fought for him so much because she wanted the perfect "quartback-cheerleader" happy ending. I think she wanted to love Finn but couldn't deny the chemistry between he and Rachel and finally backed off.
Agree
I think Finn wanted to love Finn as he was safe but I think she always loved Puck but was to afraid of getting her heartbroken as Puck before he cleaned his act up wasn't somebody she could trust not to break her heart
I agree with this
From day one Puck was always the one Quinn desired most.
@@ladybrandy91 You got it.
Quinns acting is awesome in this scene
I cant handle Dianna's beauty. Its too much.
their relationship is so complex but honestly, one of the best
Rachel: *reminds Quinn she stole her boyfriend* *tells Quinn she plans to keep going after Finn even though he’s in a relationship with Quinn again*
Also Rachel: why are you being so mean?
Stole? Quinn cheated on Finn and rightfully dumped her and moved on to Rachel
assyrianprincess finn cheated on quinn to and also rachel cheated on finn
Aziza Hussein Finn Rachel just kissed. Quinn let another man inside her and pushed a whole other mans baby out. Both bad but very different levels of cheating.
@@assyrianprincess3 it’s still cheating, are you stupid?
@@starrkive
true one is a much worse form of cheating though
This is one of the best scenes ever in Glee. Maybe the best scene ever. Quinn thought she was telling it like it really is, but she underestimates Rachel and Finn's feelings.
To be fair to Quinn, she read Finn's fear for the future and fear of being alone right at that time.
Remember how Finn proposed to Rachel when she was about to leave in an attempt to make her stay because HE was scared of leaving or of being alone?
Quinn read him correctly as a guy whose comfort zone was limited to Lima and who wouldn't want to leave, so when you combine that with Rachel's determination and dream of going to New York and becoming a Broadway star....
Well, Finn and Rachel's dreams and desires look incompatible as hell.
Sure, Rachel and Finn work it out when Finn pulls that move (depending on how you interpret the relationship, that is), but if I was a disinterested observer (and Finn is unattractive to me, so no bias on my count), I'd also think that Rachel and Finn wouldn't last precisely because of the dreams/desires being so incompatible.
So, at the time when Quinn made her assessment and pre-character development for Finn? She was right.
I don't think Finn and Rachel are compatible at all. They're two characters thrown together because they don't fit. thats like their whole relationship. I guess because it's supposed to be good for the comedy and drama...idk i preferred Jesse.
irondragonmaiden oh my God! You wrote everything I always say
I hate Quinn
No Quinn was right. Finn was holding Rachel back from her Dreams.
I find it odd that Quinn was on the edge of crying and her voice cracked when she said “you don’t belong here Rachel and you can’t hate me for sending you on your way.” Usually when someone mentions that they once stole your boyfriend, wouldn’t you yell and get mad? The last thing you would do is get emotional and cry. I honestly think Quinn did love Rachel.
I Agree if she didn't care for Rachel she wouldn't have bothered
I think Quinn admired Rachel just as much as Rachel admired her. But they also brought out insecurity in each other. Quinn was the girl Rachel always compared herself to and came up lacking. She had Finn. She was beautiful. She was popular. In Rachel’s eyes, Quinn had everything. But the way Quinn talks here reveals her own insecurity- the fear (or as she poses it in this scene inevitability) of being the girl who peaked in high school. Rachel has talent. Something that’s going to get her out of that town and make her special. All her glory days are ahead of her not behind. And Quinn doesn’t feel like she has that. She doesn’t see herself clearly. Just like she doesn’t see Finn clearly. Not everyone is meant to be famous. But fame is not the only measure of success. Finn learned that. Quinn was still battling that mentality, even after she got into an Ivy League institution.
That's a hell good scene
And Dianna's voice is incredible on this dialogue
“Why you being so mean” Rachel after she asked Quinn to be honest and Quinn only said that she and Finn are together there is a reason why Rachel is my least favourite character
She is so annoy but she do make a punching bag for Naya and Quinn 😂
I hate her sm always acting like the victim 🙄
Rachel wanted to hear ether praise and sugar coated version of the truth and she didn't get it from Quinn and don't why she expected and acted all why are you being mean I mean Quinn and her weren't friends then and Quinn didn't have time for Rachel
People might think Quinn didn't need to be a bitch but Rachel was a bitch to others and I think Quinn toke her down a peg or two and at the same time helped Rachel in a away let go of her emotions and write an song that loads of meaning
Now if Quinn had brought up Rachel's looks and knocked her talent I would call that mean
@@beryla4979 always acting like the victim?? That’s literally Quinn Fabray?? Lol I love Quinn she was always in denial, and Rachel is actually a victim
@@kerseyalejo3718 Nope disagree and I'm not discussing this anymore, I wrote this a year ago so I don't give a shit anymore. Have a nice day...
So much Faberry angst, I can't!
Is no one else talking about how Quinn is implying that Rachel deserves more than what Lima can offer?😳
imo that’s exactly what she’s saying. when she said “you don’t belong here”, she means rachel belongs in New York on Broadway, not stuck in lima
Rachel doesn't understand how much respect Quinn is giving her talent.
Y'all are mad at Quinn but she kinda get a point here. However if she really loved Finn or not Finn was the one coming back to her after breaking up with Rachel.
PerriesKiwi Exactly! Yes Quinn made a mistake in season 1 by cheating on Finn but that was her boyfriend first. I didn't understand why Rachel was so pissed at Quinn. Yes ultimate Finn was gonna be with Rachel but Rachel should have known Quinn and Finn had history. Everyone is attacking Quinn but Quinn had to deal with Rachel flirting with her bf throughout season 1 she even told her to back off him. Now Rachel is mad because Finn is with Quinn again. I can recall Rachel pushing the ideal to Finn about him and her being an item in episode 1 or 2 in the first season. He even told her he had a GF (who happens to be Quinn) I just never like Rachel because she continue to flirt with Finn in season 2 when he's in a relationship.
I’ve always wondered why both of them fight over Finn when they could’ve just dated each other instead
THIS THE ONE
Good one, but maybe they were straight. Yeah Quinn tried a little girl on girl once.
They have such an interesting dynamic, shame we sort of forgot about it. I always thought that Rachel and Finn actually didn't belong together. He was a small town boy with small dreams, but she was destined to be a star, it would have been nice to show how people have to grow out of school dreams and teen love to trully grow up
Quin obviously has a thing for her. "You don't belong here Rachel and you cannot hate me for sending you on your way"
i love Faberry
i don't see how that's proof of ' a thing' at all. That sounds like the closest to a polite 'get out of my life' I have ever heard.
+XFabuMazX You just cannot see the subtext that is why
+XFabuMazX okay so quinn is in love with rachel. quinn is pretty much dating finn not only to be prom queen, but so she can keep him away from rachel. there's so many examples. example one: season one quinn says something along the lines of "guys may cheat *yada yada yada* just don't do it with HER". example two: season three she says to rachel "i don't want you to ruin your life by marrying FINN HUDSON" like who cares about the fact that she's getting married it just matters that it's finn. if this isn't enough idk what is
+Abegail Bautista
Okay, it's cute that FaBerry shippers have this thing for them, but the fact people think Quinn actually has feelings for her is concerning.
Quinn does NOT have feelings for Rachel, or vice versa. They're just friends. Being supportive, giving advice, or complimenting someone doesn't automatically mean "Crush." FaBerry never had a chance of ever, ever happening because Rachel is straight, the only sapphic thing Quinn ever did was just an experiment. They both love boys, and neither of them ever had any feelings for each other besides friendship. Honestly, even when Quinn breathes all the insane FaBerry fans are like "OH MY GOD, SHE BREATHED FOR RACHEL! THEY WILL TOTALLY BE TOGETHER, OH EM GEEE!"
It'll never be more than a crack ship, and the only time Quinn ever had feelings for Rachel is in the million Faberry fanfictions on the internet. You want Faberry sexual tension? Well you aren't going to find it on this hsow...
6 years later: *Lea Michele has a wake up call from her co - stars*
😔😅
💀
No she doesn’t
Adele Aslan ???
ᴠᴇʀɪᴛʏ ᴊᴜᴅᴇ :D I mean it wasn’t a wake up call. Leah didn’t change in her apology she basically said she was sorry they felt that way she got exposed, yeah but she didn’t learn from it
They tried to portray Quinn as mean in this episode, but she is only doing this to protect Rachel. She knew that Rachel was a star that was going to leave Lima. She also knew that Finn wasn’t. You can blame Quinn for wanting to protecting Rachel.
Only for Quinn to find out later that she was the one in need of the wake up call.
+Deb Cox i'm sorry its been a long time since i watched the season, why did she need a wake up call?
+Kitty -sama (Belle) Finn broke up with her five episodes later and told her that he didn't want the life she had described in this scene with Rachel.
Ahh thank you~
+Deb Cox
No, Quinn was right. In the end, if Finn didn't let her go she would've had a year delay in NYADA. Quinn was the logical one here, while Rachel was just being awful and obnoxious
Breakaway there's nothing wrong with taking a year off between highschool and college. Either way she still would've gone to NYCU and they would be together. Quinn was wrong
Okay, this honestly shows how much Quinn cared about Rachel, yes, but besides that point, this was the saddest scene ever in my opinion, I think I cried all night while watching. I personally related to Rachel so much. I was always that kid that loved to sing, and loved the arts, and I believed I could one day get to be a star, and no matter what I did, how I performed on stage, people still say I'm unrealistic, and that I'll never get there. But I believe in hope, and glee gave this to me. I will get there one day. It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but one day, my dream will come true. And I won't thank any of those people in my award speech. Sorry, just had to rant
Same...same :(
Beautiful Speech. It was Incredible.
rachel writing that get it right song finally makes her realize and feels what true famous performers and professionals like her idol barbra straisand feels when they take their real life pain and emotions and turns it into beautiful powerful art and rachel has quinn to thank for that
am i the only one thats noticed that dianna (quinn) was kinda holding her tears im this scene? i mean, this was meant to be a bad scene, were quinn should be angry at rachel or wtv, its kinda weird, her expression
Nope she is holding back the tears. The writers need to explain this to us.
Abegail Bautista i still believe that in this time was some achele behind the scenes lmao, but meh this is just me dreaming
Rachel: Attacks Quinn’s relationship
Quinn: *Is mean*
Rachel: 👁👄👁
Rachel: He chose ME over you!
Quinn: And how long did that last?
Rachel: Why are you being so mean?
LOL I CANT-
I love Quinn soo much, she was so underrated, Quinn deserved a better story
I really hated Quinn for what she said, yeah I understand Rachel was not letting it go but I honestly get Rachel. Finn was her first boyfriend, the first guy that made her feel special and loved. She never thought a guy like him would choose her. When you have been in someones shoes its easier for you to get why Rachel was acting that way. She's in high school and with never having experience with relationships she didn't know how to quite grasp the idea of letting go. She wanted to hold on to that because to her what she thought impossible happened, I get that Quinn wanted to make her open her eyes to finally let go, and perhaps maybe protect her from getting even more hut in the process. But because it came from Quinn, the girl who Finn broke up with to be with her, instead of making Rachel understand it hurt her and it made her think that she's not good enough.
True, but there wasn't love between them, at least not like Finn and Rachel. It was different.
+MsSoffsG
Still, Rachel had no right to say it wasn't over between them. Quinn was in a really sensitive place at that time, and her life was finally getting back together. The fact Rachel would say that as she was recovering from her drama from last year was completely impolite. Quinn was right to give her a wake up call, Rachel should've butted out of Quinn's personal life from the start and let her be happy at least once.
Quinn didn’t mean that Rachel will become a toilet cleaner in Ohio. What she meant was, while Rachel will be accomplishing her dreams elsewhere Quinn and Finn will stay. Ofcourse she didn’t say it in the best way but they’re teens at the moment too.
Quinn is smarter and wiser than she was, bc she got pregnant in S1. That’s how she changed. And she and Finn both know they don’t like each other, at least she did but Finns the one being the joker
That is no excuse you don’t continue going after somebody’s boyfriend and then tell them you won’t give up it’s disrespectful
I cannot believe I dreamt about this scene and now that I got to rewatch it, they finally came true.
I'm surprised that so many people appear to be misinterpreting this scene IMO. This scene is really about Quinn projecting her own issues on to Rachel. In reality, it's Quinn who is the one who is living in this schoolgirl fantasy. Quinn wants to be prom queen and wants to be with Finn again to help bury the pain/humiliation of what she went through the year before by putting them back on the path that they were on before Quinn cheated on him with Puck. She wants her happy ending with Finn only because she thinks it will fulfill her dream of being powerful, popular, loved, accepted, and looked up to for life. Rachel is the only obstacle to that so Quinn wants to get rid of her.
EXACTLY
@@megan1634 Thanks!!!
Exactly! When Quinn says "You don't belong here," she's not talking about Lima Heights and saying Rachel is meant for greater things. She's talking about the fairytale of her and Finn and saying there is no happy ending for Rachel if she keeps trying to win back Finn.
Of course, Quinn won't find that happy ending with Finn either, certainly not as she describes it (her dream to be a "successful... real estate agent" could be comedic in a different setting but she says it like she'll have to learn to be content with it rather than with any enthusiasm/passion) but she's never really been shown another way to be happy. Even her relationship with Sam was fairly shallow and had certain expectations. She's convinced that her cliché will overcome Rachel's.
I see Quinn's point here. Rachel has always tried to split them up.
yes she has. and although what she was doing was selfish, I still think Rachel and Finn are a match made in Heaven.
"He chose me over you1" "And how long did that last for?" WhY ArE yOU bEiNg So mEAn? lol Rachel.
Everybody hates Rachel but honestly she is my favorite character. I admire how brave and confident she is. And I love her singing voice. She is really talented. I feel bad that she is never taken seriously.
Julia Raisley THANK YOU me too I love Rachel ❤️🙌
Julia Raisley Kurt takes her seriously.
Brandon Hagan The reason she was the star was because she tried the hardest rather than having the best voice. Rachel was the sole character who FELT her performances. Let me remind you that Mercedes constantly said she worked just as hard as Rachel when there were two instances where she was shown as lazy. The first time was during the rehearsal for their first mash-up; Rachel was insisting everyone work hard to be ready for the boys but even Mercedes was telling her to relax and kick back. She even said ‘wing it’. Rachel refused. The next instance was where they had dance boot camp and every other character was working hard but Mercedes wasn’t. She kept coming in late and stopped in the middle of every dance number due to ‘exhaustion’. And instead of accepting the criticism Mr. Shuester gave, she decided to insult Rachel for whatever reason despite Rachel working hard to be the leader and the star she was. Why is she the star exactly? She was the only one who pulled her weight the ENTIRE series.
Brandon Hagan Actually she did and does have the best voice. Not sure what you’re smoking.
PrettyLittle Harmony She literally made several excuses in one sentence. Even Santana of all people told her off for it. When Shuester insisted he was fine, she switched her excuse to being hungry. It didn’t make any sense. While, yes, Shuester pushed her a tad harder than the others, it’s not as if it came out of nowhere. Mercedes was coming in late and hardly tried. Even Finn progressed and it was shown that he was the worst dancer. Mercedes is a great, talented character, but she can’t insist she deserved the solos when she did nothing to earn them.
one of the best scenes in the show ...
Quinn never believed she could get out of Lima. She thought she was destined to be stuck there forever. But she knew Rachel could get out and even though she did it in a mean way, she was secretly pushing her towards choosing dreams over Finn. I’m glad they were both able to get out and that neither had to give up their dreams.
I never understood why they were fighting over Finn all the time. He was a man child, everytime he broke up with them suddenly when someone else had them he wanted them back, like a child with a toy. He could never made up his mind and constantly was blaming them because the relationship didn't work out.
Whenever she has a monologue they play the sociopathic piano music.
lmao
Quinn was not the one to talk here. She was the one with the fantasy of life.
Exactly!!!!!! And people are saying she's right? God.....
They both were, but Rachel was out of line in this scene
I love how Quinn had her own background music everytime she had a scene
What quinn said was true though.... she didnt belong in ohio, she was born to live in the big city on stag and finn was preventing her from reaching her full potential like we saw in season 4
Watching the love shitfest between Finn, Rachel, and Quinn was exhausting.
All three of them were guilty. Quinn cheated on Finn and forever severed the possibility of Finn being loyal to her ever again. Finn cheated on Quinn with Rachel when he should have just broken up with her. Rachel should have never received Finn's affections while still with Quinn, a shit move on her part. And Rachel isn't innocent as she would sow seeds of mistrust and affection between Finn and Quinn while maintaining a good-girl act.
I think that the real reason why Quinn is crying while saying all those things about their future is because she doesn’t actually want all that, but still she thinks that it is the only future that she can have. She is the one living in the schoolgirl fantasy, not Rachel and she’s well aware of it, even though she doesn’t really want that life. Being the head cheerleader, being prom queen, having the popular boy... she never actually wanted that, she’s just doing what others aspect her to do.
Quinn does have a point
i love how quinn has her own theme music
That TENSION
Dianna's acting is really good in this scene
and also Lea
i love how quinn thought rachel was the one searching for that perfect happy ending when it was really quinn all along
I never really understood why Quinn was getting so emotional towards Rachel? Was it because she knew her and Finn would stay in Lima and Rachel gets to leave and be something? or was it Quinn letting Rachel go to pursue her dreams? I'm just confused lol
petrinajc At the point of season 2 I thought it was because Quinn wanted Rachel to leave town so she can be happy with Finn. But then on season 3 Quinn again tells Rachel to dump Finn and follow her dreams (Quinn was going to Yale and Finn was staying in Lima with Puck) so I think she actually cared for Rachel.
I'm pretty sure in s2 it was just a current girlfriend being annoyed that an ex who she felt threatened by wouldn't give up on the idea of being a couple. Cause let's be real, Quinn knew that Finn was always gonna love Rachel, she just didn't want to admit it to herself. As far as s3, Quinn held the mentality that high school relationships couldn't go beyond high school realistically (which obviously isn't true) but she probably felt like she was doing Rachel a favour by giving her that advice.
PJ Reactions I feel that Quinn even though she was Captain of the Cheerios, Beautiful, Popular Finn would always choose Rachel I feel that Quinn felt less than Rachel even though it’s hard to believe and she thought if she got what Rachel wanted it would make her better, specially winning prom queen. Rachel’s confidence is outstanding but she also has those moments were you just can’t do it anymore people try and break her but guess what she actually wrote a killer song and was on broadway as the lead character went to Nyada University went to NY and was engaged to Finn got a Tony award so I guess it worked out for her Except the part were she loses her soulmate after she tried so hard in high school to keep him and he passed away.... Quinn got accepted to Yale university but only because she was Preggers!!!
Thing is, Quinn is good at reading people and can be very pragmatic at times (sometimes to the point that she could come off as cold). At this point, Quinn sees no way for her to leave Lima due to lack of opportunities (mostly because she's honestly going through post-partum depression right now and can't see it so) she's resigned to remaining and making the best of it, meanwhile Rachel wants to leave and thanks to her fathers and Broadway actress mom has the means to leave.
Finn, on the other hand, will stay in Lima because he's parochial at heart and doesn't want to leave. He LIKES the familiarity of Lima and staying to work at Burt's tire shop or working as a teacher with Shuester remains within his comfort zone. He HATES moving out of his comfort zone and will only budge when pushed to (such as Shuester blackmailing him to get to the Glee club otherwise he'd NEVER have joined).
You have to admit, looking at it like that, Finn and Rachel are incompatible as all fuck.
I mean, am I the only one that remembers how Finn proposed to Rachel as a manipulative tactic so she would STAY IN LIMA? This is a guy who HATES change and hates being alone and HATES the thought of leaving his comfort zone (which is Lima). Seriously, don't ask this guy to leave Lima for anything longer than a competition or a vacation because he WILL be miserable (at least, that's how he was since the show's conception until he died, maybe he would've grown out of it, but I doubt it, it's such an intrinsic part of him just like wanting to work as a Broadway singer was such an intrinsic part of Rachel).
Generally speaking, two people with THAT huge incompatibility would not work out as a couple without A LOT of compromises and long-distance relationship moments and constant communication between them... which neither did much.
Yes, they were dumb teens, but when you have a lifestyle incompatibility like the above, then the couple either doesn't work out or needs to commicate and compromise a hell of a lot more than the average couple happy.
(I'm not even going to get into a rage rant about early marriages damn near straight out of high school or thereabouts... which they did with Kurt and Blaine and Brittany and Santana anyway, but that's another issue)
Now, mind you, Quinn and Finn are also incompatible because Quinn also wants out, it's just that Quinn is in the middle of a depression right now and THINKS she can't get out of Lima as she lamented in S1. This is her thinking of making the best of it while self-sabotaging her chances of real happiness (i.e. not sticking to her guns about loving Sam, who was the best boyfriend ever, I swear, WHY did she have to be in a self-destructive hit then, depression sucks!).
But truthfully, she does have a point in that, whoever Finn winds up with (or doesn't wind up with), the end result is the same: Rachel leaves for NYC since that's an unchangeable plan for her and she has the opportunity thanks to the parents, while Finn stays because he WON'T leave his home and if he does he will be miserable.
She was right. This is an incompatible couple. Even Finn agreed to it by "letting her go"
irondragonmaiden finally someone who gets it right, thank you. 🙂
I just realized that she literally spoiled the title of the song Rachel wrote for nationals at 1:40 . The writers are genius!
Quinn wasn’t entirely in the wrong here, tbh, BUT we did get a kickass song because of this scene, so I can’t complain too much.
Ok I know lea Michelle isn't a good person and Rachel is self centered but why is the comment section acting like Quinn is so nice. She's just as mean as Rachel here. People will jump through hoops to describe Quinn as nice but ignore every nice thing Rachel does and only note the mean things. Quinn is a bully, tried to frame one man as a father to her child who wasn't and frequently put down the actual father of her child and constantly tried to remind Rachel of how she was better than her simply because she wanted her perfect prom queen life. She's just the same as Rachel only quieter about it. What about when Rachel tried to protect Quinn from people finding out she was pregnant? What about when she and Finn purposely threw the duet competition so Quinn and Sam would feel more confident? She's not all evil. She's just very driven
Happy someone said it
You can't just say "It isn't over between us" to the guys girlfriend. It's as good as saying that she's hoping that they'll break up or that she'll try to steal him back from her.
Quinn: *"How many times do you have to make the same mistake* to realize *it's not going to works out"*
Me: BUT HOW MANY TIMES WILL IT TAAAAAKE? OOH HOW MANY TIMES WILL IT TAKE FOR MEEEEE
TO GET IT RIIIIIIIGHT
How I wanna justify Quinn's "meaness": she already has something planned out for both her and Finn while also stating how Rachel doesn't belong in Ohio because she deserves to be in New York as a Broadway star.
Out of context it def looks like Rachel’s in the wrong here but earlier in the episode Quinn was literally plotting against her, like I see where she’s coming from
Guys i really need to know what song is at 0:51, its beautiful :(
I think one of the reasons Quinn was so obsessed with being high school royalty is because she believed high school was going to be her peak. She didn't really believe she could make a life truly worth having afterwards.
But Quinn doesn’t love Finn, she wants her popularity. She’s always like : we have time to plan for prom and all
I know you guys think Rachel was being just as mean as Quinn in this scene or that Rachel had no right to cry over this. But please remember, Rachel Berry is one of the most hated people in her school. All she had going for her was her talent. Nobody thought she was pretty and nobody liked her, but they had to sit down and listen when she sung because she was spectacular. This is what caused her to be so cocky because if she didn't make her singing her personality, she would go unnoticed by everyone. But it just ended up making her irritable and hard to be around. When Rachel says "why are you being so mean?" after reminding Quinn that she took Finn wasn't because she was trying to be mean at all. Neither of them was trying to be mean to one another in this scene. All Rachel has when she isn't with Finn is her voice. But when she's with Finn, she has someone who loves her and who thinks she's beautiful. Not to mention who's the star Quarterback and get her a rise in popularity. That's why Rachel tells Quinn she won't stop going after Finn. Because she is desperately chasing after that validation that she is more than just her voice. Thank you for coming yo my TED Talk.
Re-watching this scene I think Quinn’s actions were being misunderstood. I think Quinn believes in Rachel’s potential as a singer and songwriter but is blinded by love, which Quinn sees as a set back. She wants Rachel to realize that Finn has a chance to stop her from reaching her dreams and leaving Lima. She wants Rachel to realize that in order to grow, you need to cut some things that are weighing her down. It shows when Quinn was talking about her future with Finn and how she emphasizes that Finn will take over kurts dads shop. Either that or I’m just overthinking as always
0:44 Rachel: He chose me over you!
0:49 Rachel again: Why are you being so mean?
SHE IS AN IDIOT. CHANGE MY MIND
Bro I was sitting their watching this thinking of all the SAVAGE things Rachel could of said to Quinn.
When diana shouts Yes it is, that was really scary. She's so gracefully frustrated.
Come to think of it, she always knew rachel will be out from ohio. She said this thing twice.. The second was when she's not even interest in finn. She tell her to let go someone to holding out for her dream. It really does a wakeup call. She wants Rachel to reaching out for her dream, the most clear one. Not like her who gradually wondering where she will be ended up after being pregnant, even after the baby was adopted i see quinn sometimes still confused on what will she do in the future.
*OKAY BUT WAIT* this could be an amazing Faberry plot. I mean just LOOK. Quinn is literally tying herself down to these things: Lima, Finn, and a small life as a real estate agent while Rachel goes on to broadway. She was right. Rachel doesn't belong there, she belongs in New York.. Broadway. Quinn wasn't doing these solely due to her own selfish intentions. Think about it y'all.
Quinn was literally the only person who made sure Rachel never forgot about her dream and made sure she got out of Lima.
I think Quinn was looking out for Rachel because she everyone knows she needs to go to New York and Finn isn’t really suited to that as well, but also she was trying to protect her future, she wanted to settle for Finn because after Beth she didn’t feel she had anything going for her. The end of season 2 and beginning of season 3 supports this, so she wanted some sense of stability in Finn even though she did love him I think she knows that it’s not a forever love but she’s fine with that to have an ok kind of future. Neither of them should stay in Lima anyway! Quinn’s really smart and Rachel’s really talented, they don’t need a guy to dictate their lives at 18
Quin, Sam and Santana and Kirk had the best and most useful storylines ever. They dealt with real life issues while everyone else was just in highshool and Rachel was a big baby
1:36 I know that Quinn's intentions were entirely selfish 79% of the show but this is part of the 21%.she knew Rachel was meant to be a star and leave Lima but Finn wasn't. She probably wants Finn all to herself but at the same time she cares about Rachel and knows that the heartbreak Rachel will feel in the future if she continued having a relationship with Finn while they're apart is gonna be a lot worse compared to the heartbreak she feels now
Quinn - bullies Rachel reducing her to tears.
The comment section - Quinn is trying to help Rachel is mean!!!
Right?
Rachel was also mean tf
she IS trying to help her. It's very clear that she thinks Rachel is destined for bigger and better things than staying in Lima with Finn. She's dishing out the truth but Rachel's too invested in her feelings to accept what she's saying. I don't blame Rachel for that, Finn was her first boyfriend after all, but I really wouldn't call what Quinn did in this scene "bullying".
Right ? The worst thing is There are people Who say Rachel was wrong and Quinn right in This scene like wtf ? Quinn was just trying to make Rachel cry but ok
Ok, I love Quinn but this is an epic low for her. I think she only said it because she was a afraid that Finn was going leave her for Rachel (which he eventually did) so in her head she could try to scare her off. She knew how it was going to end (Finn and Rachel getting back together) she didn’t want to admit it.
Sam Love she was right though? rachel had dreams that were too big for finn to handle. they wouldn't have worked out. and they didnt
I side with Quinn in this scene for many reasons. For one, Rachel and Finn were over but Rachel wouldn’t stop being a home wrecker. For two, Quinn knew that Rachel was going to become a star and Finn wouldn’t be able to follow up. She was protecting Rachel.
Quinn never really love Finn. Rachel does it.
@@about_alessia0514 I think Quinn loved him at one point, even if Rachel loved him more, but it didn't mater, Rachel was going after someone else's man, and that's wrong.
Damn I know Lea is supposed to be the "star" but Diana stole this scene from her and I'm loving it. I feel like it would have been more interesting if Finn ended up with Quinn and Rachel moved on with her life.
Leave the "Caring for Rachel to help her realize she doesn't need Finn" comments aside..... Am I the only one who thinks that Quinn was a total bitch in this scene? I'll explain
To me, Quinn just wants Finn to herself, even though he eventually leaves her for Rachel (again) and it leaves me thinking that she doesn't love HIM, only the IDEA of the perfect boyfriend, perfect popularity status, perfect life as she describes here etc..
Quinn hates the idea of Finn being with anyone that is not her. She knows that Finn loves Rachel but she doesn't care so she acts like that to scare Rachel off so she can have Finn for herself. She wants Rachel to back off at all cost.
AND she also knows that Rachel doesn't know any better!! Rachel is naive and she is heartbroken over Finn, who was her first boyfriend, first guy ever to show intrest in her so it's super relatable to me. What does Rachel even know about relationships at this point? Nothing.
And Quinn *knows* that. She uses Rachel's naivety for her own gain.
She wasn't being "nice" or "caring" here. It doesn't seem to me that she cares about Racel at all.
What Quinn does here is NOT a wake up call. It's rubbing her relationship with Finn in Rachel's face, showing her how naive and stupid she's been for thinking Finn will choose her over "The Perfect Girl" which is her, in her eyes of course.
Bottom line- This is the bitchiest that I've seen from Quinn. I hate her behavior here, breaking Rachel's heart (in the name of her getting back together with Finn) and stepping on the pieces in the process.
Agree
And people still think Rachel was the mean one on this scene 😭😭
Someone disagrees with Rachel: Rachel: you’re wrong. I’m gonna have my way.
1:57 what's the name music with piano? please?
to late(?) they always put that piano background when its a discussion/words fight or a mean character thinking a plan to ruin something, and other scenes that usually involves problematic characters haha (if my english is not very good sorry x_x )
Luisa Della Peruta it's the Quinn theme
Tbh even though Quinn was wrong about who Finn would be with in the end, Rachel was way out of line here. She's ridiculous, she reminds Quinn than Finn chose her over her, and then once Quinn stands up for herself, Rachel is like "wHy aRe yOu bEiNg sO mEaN" even though Rachel was being cruel first.
You gotta be insane of you think Quinn actually meant that she wanted to help Rachel, she just wanted Rachel out of her damn relationship and told her something she wanted to hear
2019 and I'm over think about how great will be if this two get together
basically Quinn is trying to tell Rachel that she doesn’t need Finn. I never understood this scene until now.
has anyone knows the background music when rachel was writting get it right! i loved that piano music
I wanna know it too!
"You live in this little schoolgirl fantacy of life." funny how Quinn lived a fantacy too
Such a powerful moment. She gave up on Finn and expressed that pain into an amazing song. People can make wonderful things if they are strong enough to move on, despite the tragedies of life.
Thanks Glee...
1:49 whats the background music ????!!!
you know the sound of the piano
??
dying!
Great acting by Dianna