@@THEbeast-tm5tw Hey I know it's not the map for it but would Ball-Dva dive work on Numbani or Dorado? I know you said in the video that you need a shield tank but if you're playing dive correctly shouldn't the ball function as a main tank? I see a lot of people in the comments ready to flame dive but if you're in plat or below old meta can still work if played right. You're kind of making people toxic to a third of all tank lineups.
@@andrewwood9337 except that your not even understanding what your saying. At high end they are more likely to have comms and a reasonable knowledge of the game. Dive is one of the most team work/communication based comp in the game. That type of teamwork outside of pre-made groups is very, very, very rare. At lower ranks that type of teamwork is non existent. Anything is technically viable with skill and communication, just like it is entirely possible I can win the powerball lottery. Anything is possible, you just have to be realistic in your expectations. Wish in one hand and s#!t in the other and see which fills first.
Ive always prefered "calm the f*** down" cause you know calm down wont work so you might as well trigger them to the max. You know...I might be a troll sometimes
I've found it depends on how you ask them to calm down. Saying "calm down" isn't usually useful, but saying things like, "Let's stay calm and figure out a plan", or "These complaints aren't helping us, let's decide on a new plan", etc. 1) There's no I or "you" in team. Approach from a "us" and "we" perspective. 2) What do we do now? What is the plan? Focus the team on what's to come, not what has passed. This has worked SO many times in the many retail jobs I've had in the past and I find it works often in multiplayer games too. Then again, sometimes people just want to be mad...
Hahaha... Actually, I'm a girl, so when I take my really nice Canadian™ voice and say "Hey, it's okay guys...", I get a much higher success rate lol 😂 I mean, let's be honest: I really want to tell them that they're trash bc it'd be satisfying, but at the same time I want to win the game, so oh well...
@@0Quakeman0 I'm all against being forced off what you play , but on 2,2,2. Where the meta is favoring double shield or a shield tank and off tank combo. In my eyes why play comp if you gonna play only dva and not flex your almost throwing in my eyes. Either play quick play or switch to dps...
@@0Quakeman0 actually there is a chance, I'm a dva 1 trick in masters, I realized in a match that dva wasn't doing so well so when I tried rein I did pretty damn well. Not all dva 1 tricks are like that.
@alexy you won't get a bad team every match and if you do then the other team will likely have the same problems. The only common denominator in those matches that have caused you to drop is you.
@@Tubemytune I had a dude complain about dps not getting kills when he had role qued as tank and played Dva while the other tank was a zarya. Enemy had bastion on point with double shield and mercy pocketing it. What is the dps supposed to do without a barrier? Oh well
@@crazyape515 sorry bud, in that situation the ZARYA should've switched, D.va is better against bastion than zarya, and against bastion honestly, D.va and roadhog are honestly a solid tank duo
@@sebaschan-uwu exactly, Sigma is good too, but not as consistent of a counter, really if you run at least d.va or RH with anybody, you have a fighting chance against bastion, Junk and hanzo are good dps, Ana is a great support, along with a Lucio can be a really good anti-bastion comp
*At the start of the match* "Hey, if you need me to switch to a barrier tank just let me know :)" *Gets asked to switch to barrier tank* *Stays **D.VA** for the whole F'ing match*
@@TheWazzoGamesoh shut up with that bs. This dva played horrible and got mad at the doom who was toxic but is correct. Narcissistic gold player no wonder why they were stuck in gold
@@HermanHeffner Yeah tbh while he was tilted he was also doing his job and making good callouts. It's VERY easy to see why he got mad because I KNOW many of us have had multiple situations like this where the team got either a pick or multiple picks but they either refuse to dive the point or they SOMEHOW lose in a 4v6 or in this case a fucking 3v6. I know sty called it out but he definitely should have been tougher on the dva because she spent valuable time shooting at a fucking shield as opposed to diving the ash.
@@HermanHeffner The tanks were the bigger issue imo. It's not always the people who are yelling in the mic. I mean it doesn't take a genius to see oh shit they have a shield tank and we don't. We keep getting clobbered. MAYBE I should switch to either a Winston *for the the Hammond* or a sigma or an orisa. Since it's role queue you have more of a responsibility because no one else can just switch to tank.
@@GaZaRaVe you can't just blame the tanks. The DPS weren't getting any picks maybe 1 for each fight. When he was playing Doomfist he basically just jumped in and died for most of the first round. Everyone was to blame in that match
@@HermanHeffner Narcissists... if you don't appeal to their pride and ego, they ignore you... AKA morons, basically. If you can't take critique, just because it's "rude", you are, by every definition of the word, a moron.
It still baffles me that the game is this old yet people who want to play comp STILL have such shit game sense. It doesn't take a genius to realize " yo we're taking a lot of damage, we don't have a shield tank...... We should probably get one". I couldn't even make it through this episode because that shit was just so frustrating to watch because I know we all had those games where our teammates refuse to make the sensible switch. Then they do it when it's like 40 seconds left.
@@GaZaRaVe Exactly, how can people think that they can win a game without a shield tank, specially with this new meta. Everyone just wants to one-trick a hero, even when it's not effective
Nah I like this more, I like how he says "we" and points out opportunities flaws etc. He even says in this video that shouting and swearing at people over the internet is a bad idea. Leave that Gordon Ramsey style to the low IQ hogs that want to see people be cruel to others bc their lives are miserable.
@@julymagnus493 wow really going in on being very critical. As if it isn't helpful when the OP is legit saying he would find it more helpful as would I. The vod reviews that xqc did were very like this and they are the reason I'm a plat tank.
@@patrickcampbell957 Idk a lot about XQCs reviews I only watched one or two. (I still have the phrase "That shield only protects you" burned in my head whenever I drop a shield as Winston) but I was mostly talking about Ramsey not Wanteds bitch (also known as XQC).
@@s4dieee dva ball is 100% a throw. Plus that mercy was super toxic all they had to say was shut up to pretty reasonable suggestions to team comp. Mercy seemed more tilted to me.
Lord Leckatall she was telling him to shut up because of his toxic attitude, not his call outs... he was rude af and as for the d.va ball, it could’ve been better, but it wasn’t really a throw
@@andrewwood9337 The nerf on the PTR addresses her being a bit too good honestly. They should still probably change the ultimate to something else though because it only adds more barrier to a barrier meta.
Love when people are blamed. Not saying the dude wasn't toxic or anything, but I wonder what the email said. As a tank main, this match was easily winnable with just 1 hero swap. Winston instead of Dva. Winston and hammond would straight up win the match and they wouldn't even need a rein to block shatter. These are the same type of tank mains who'll go into a match and say: "I got gold medals, dps suck". Except the amount of feeding this person did on dva was ridiculous. Going after Rein instead of focusing down hammond (who'll stall the point longer), going after a Moira instead of backing off, engaging a Sym who clearly had turrets set up, diving into entire team,feeding ult and dying. But I guess it's easy to blame others.
This D.Va had major target priority problems, either flailing around wildly of trying to take the Rein in a series of 1v1 battles. Monkey would gave definitely been a better pick against the Ashe, Lucio, Sym and Moira.
A tip for general dva. _FFS You arent a sniper! Dive the enemy's face! Dont shoot at range you have 2 rapid fire shotguns! Too many dvas in gold and plat sit at range and fire getting no value and blaming others_
@@totallunatic547 Diving the enemy isnt feeding. Its only feeding when theres no follow up and you get no value. Jumping in the reins face is still better then doing 1 damage from far away anyway.
The rank itself doesn’t determine whether he should play doom or not. Sym on the other hand lol not to mention the tanks were just bad picks plain and simple
@@heartofthelion6169 I mean this comp is basically the same as the classic trash comp of having dva and roadhog. Just going to feed your brains out and constantly eat damage.
Definately. It was also primarily the dvas fault, as much as doomfist toxicity was tilting everyone at the same time they couldnt do anything. Seriously if you main off tank learn 1 main tank and whenever you are willing to play overwatch and go play tank then be ready to play main tank. Dont like it? Go dps. Dont like dps? Play support? Dont like them? Go quickplay, anything but comp
@@darkwolf1739 Exactly. I would get tilted to if I'm playing another role I'm calling out what we need but they refuse to make the switch for the team. At that point either don't queue up as tank or just go back to quick play. This is comp. Don't hop in if you know you can't make the needed switch for the team.
The MMR system needs to be updated with a multiple choice test you take with alongside placement matches that allows it to factor in game knowledge when trying to assess your skill level
Mitch L. That wouldn’t change anything most players know what they should be doing if you ask them but when they get into a game they just don’t think about it
I've seen so many main tank players making excellent space for dps who dont know how to engage from multiple angles when attacking a double barrier or an orisa frontline, or who follow the rein into a narrow choke on 2cp instead of staying at the main choke and hitting the enemy team when they're rotated
Mitch L. Maybe the Tanks should be taking multiple angles with dive tanks instead of standing at a choke. If you’re not gonna win the shield war then stop playing it.
You know I will say I have been flaming my dps when I have been getting the gold medals as a main tank but I realize from him that we should be asking the dps what is causing them to not be able to put more damage out are we not shielding them enough are we not applying enough pressure to the enemy
Well, also respect that medals are misleading. I often walk with 4 medals on Moria, but Maria's orbs hit everyone and I'll get credit for even a small tickle. Medals don't mean anything ingame
I completely blame the dva player. He constantly was trying to trigger he dude instead of being helpful at all to him or their team. He's the super toxic one just because he isn't vocal...
@@Piterixos No, troll players can be toxic without being vocal. Prime example, Mei players that ice wall the spawn point exit as soon as the door opens.
@@Piterixos you know those sibling arguments where you know that you got your brother mad, yet you still say shit just to get him even more mad. That's exactly what this guy was doing, and yes the dva was toxic but just because he doesn't have a mic, doesn't mean that you can't see the true intentions of what he's saying. Plus he wouldn't switch if the game depended on it, which it did. I rest my case.
Playing with a toxic person just gets everyone tiled and distracted, often to the point where learning players start shutting down because they just want to get the game over with so they can move on. Maybe the guy had solid callouts, but his attitude sure as shit was *not* helping. In that situation, you hit mute.
"If they had a Rein they would have gone mh" "If they had a Sigma they would have gone mh" "If they had a brain they would have gone *MH* around a corner"
The doom had very good points and the wording was fine but it's the tone in which he said it made everyone else annoyed which when people are annoyed/tilted they just forget about the game sometimes and feed
Thanks for this vid! Been queueing as tank for the recent Comp role queue, I've been wanting to play Dva but been mostly been playing Rein or Orisa -- thanks again!💙
All these toxic players should look at themselves and see that it's not just your team that's always the problem. Edit:I as a player do experience healers that don't do their jobs or dps that focus tanks and feed enemy supports but that's the beauty of the game.There are perfections and imperfections and we should play with our team and try to work around those imperfections.I get that sometimes we can get mad but we are only human and we (as humans) make mistakes.
@@TheLaughinginthedark that's the most infuriating thing in this damn game that's why I barely play anymore healers are so shit, but nobody calls them out cause they're the "backbone" of the team
I don't endorse the way Doomfist is delivering his messages, even if he's right most of the time, but I can totally understand his frustration... I can't play as much as I used to play a few years ago (or else I wouldn't be silver/gold) and it's horrible to see that even if you play correctly and actually study how the game should be played (and I have to thank you for this Sty !), you can't get out of an Elo where most of the time, you got people in your team that don't know what they should do, or don't care at all :/
I'll give my two cents on the D.Va play. There was a lot of poor booster control. Yeah cc makes it hard at times but you should practice your flight until you can do whatever you want to do with no mistakes. The frantic flight paths and poorly executed dives show that you're not very comfortable with the boosters yet. Practice that and you'll be melting Symmetras and Moiras like nobody's business. Take your time in attacking the enemy. There's no need to push in if nothing has been committed into the fight. Remember, you have the ability to go anywhere. Use that to sit on high ground perches, take off-angles, poke at the enemy, then go for the kill once an opportunity presents itself. That could be a DPS that's out of position, a support that's low, a tank going aggro on your backline, etc. Also, take care of your teammates. You have a massive body and DM to use when necessary. You never helped your Doomfist despite their toxic attitude. Helping him would have made the Rein's life a living hell. If you're up for the challenge of playing D.Va, you have to use her kit effectively.
Overwatch needs a button on the hero select screen to suggest a character to the players in that role. No shield tank? Then three people hit 'We need a Reinhardt!' when they get slaughtered. Would need a spam controller like chat but would be helpful for sure.
Or - and stay with me on this - people could realize this is a team game, use the chat functions to make such requests in a respectful manner, and learn to read the situation so they themselves can see where their comp is lacking.
@@vulgaritar48 Yeah but on console there are very few people in chat and no text chat option so we just can't suggest anything to our teammates without an xbox message, which takes forever mid-game.
@@grantlinnehan7853 I play on PC and Xbox, and I'm again saying that the issue is a lot of people (low ELOs especially) choose not to utilize the innate communication options already available to them. We don't need more options; people just need to use the ones already in place. Xbox definitely has mic support, I checked.
Biggest analysis i have for this Dva: Switch. I didn't see you do a single dive into the enemy back line this whole video. If you're not gonna do that and you're gonna end up front lining just play an actual shield tank. Don't ask if someone wants a shield tank, either play one or dive that back line.
@@kylelinder4623 minimize your distance as much as possible before entering line of sight. Shield up until you are nearly on top of him. Charge into Valhalla! It's not about surviving the team fight. It's all about killing that damn omnic! let your team carry the rest of the fight. Most of the time, you've caused enough chaos that your team can capitalize on the situation. It's real hard for the enemy to not turn around to watch you smash their bastion against a wall, secretly, they wanted him dead too.
There’s no way that this is the doomfists fault. It’s the dumb tank choices. Why would you ask if the tank choice is ok. You should know that shieldless tank line up disadvantages you
Soapy Papoose he could have been quiet and they still would have lost, I maintain that they would have lost far worse because the Hammond only changed to rein because of his moaning
@@Soapy_Papoose The thing is though the solution is to not talk at all in the game because technically anything can tilt anyone. The Doomfist wasn't nearly as toxic at most people. He wasn't even trying to bring someone down he was just saying that they needed a shield tank, and asking why they weren't pushing. That isn't toxicity that is facts
THANK....YOU. That's not even a switch. That's supposed to be your first pick. Then you can run either a hammond or a zarya* which would be preferable for the barrier*. All they were doing was feeding their brains out.
Or anything else? As a d.va main I don't play her if the enemy has a sym or Zara sigma combo. She's still a somewhat effective tank, but not against those heroes and you end up doing absolutely nothing except feed ult charge. This person should've realised that, the reason the fight was lost was because of them. The only way to climb is by flexing, not to different roles anymore, but when your hero isn't working you need to be able to play something else.
OK, just some general DVa tips from what I've seen in the video. You need to work on your aim. DVa has to use a combination of hitscan bullets and projectiles to get her dps going, and you really need to hit micro-missiles to kill stuff. Your matrix usage is a bit wonky. It's really common for DVas to spam matrix, especially when the cooldown was 1 second. You need to make sure you use matrix to eat key cooldowns, eat impossible spam to save shields and protect squishies. Break the habit of using matrix at literally everything. Next up, boosters. You seem to love jumping in, but you often end up getting lost in your own screen because you boost into an enemy and when they get bopped, you get disoriented. You can cancel boosters with melee once you're out of the initial boost animation. Not only will this add an extra 30 damage to the booster boop, but it also gives you control a lot quicker and lets your booster cooldown recharge quicker. And don't forget one reason dive tanks are used is because they control their disengage. Multiple times, you didn't fly away when you could have, and either stayed engaged (and consequently lost mech and died) or boosted towards the enemy again (and died). One last baby DVa tip is that you can ask your Mercy to damage boost you to get mech back quicker.
@@MyouKyuubi I was a bronze DVa one-trick at one point, but I eventually got better. This comments section disgusts me with how willing they are to blame this player who submitted their vod to try and get better.
@@xenocheeze6633 If she had listened to Doomfist, she would've already improved as a player... That's why the comments section is giving her shit... She doesn't NEED Stylosa to tell her what she should already know. That's why Stylosa was so speechless at several points of this video. Because how can he critique her in a way that she will actually LISTEN to? Selective hearing, based on EGO... is a dysfunction... If you cannot listen to critique because said critique was PERCEIVED as "rude"... That is the first problem you need to fix, if you want to be a better player. Just because you think someone is rude, doesn't necessarily invalidate the point they are making. Also there is no DPS pick in Overwatch that doesn't rely on reliable tanks, so yes, this was ENTIRELY Divas fault. Narcissism has no place in competitive esports, end of story.
@@MyouKyuubi because callouts like 'I got a pick, why didn't we win?' are what people need to hear in comms. You seem pretty quick to judge someone else and label them with a mental illness (seriously, DO NOT) and put words in Sty's mouth here. You can't seriously expect me to be OK with you saying it's excusable to flame a player because 'he/she played badly omegalul'
3:04 No, This D.VA player asked. DF said "nahh we coolin" 9:50 This is around 2 min after, and now he is saying what everyone should have known. That they needed a shield tank.
@@MrGamerdude1 They probably could've made it without a shield tank, if they were deserving of a master rank, sadly, that's not the case, because this Dva is a straight up bronze player. No aim, no target priority, no game knowledge, no common sense, rarely uses rocket barrage which is like 50% of your dps as Dva... Narcissistically sensitive causing her to ignore things perceived as "rude" or "toxic" such as the doomfist's frustrated, but valuable critique... Yeah, she's a bronzie. Even if she did go barrier Tank, the team would still lose. Because this player is that bad. :S
@@MrGamerdude1 Well they might not have needed one but it became clear to Doomfist that they did need one. That isn't the issue. The issue is still trying to play Dva into that comp
i dont understand why you're not suggestion blizzard to make a seperate role queue for shield tanks and offtanks. it literally has no downsides and fixes the game not only for the whole team but also the people who queue for tank
madnessman 15 I’m a so-called dva main and I myself learned a shield tank because she’s just not very useful in this meta unless the other team doesn’t have double shields and/ or no symm or mei. You gotta be versatile in this game because things switch up in an instant.
And that's why the player sent in the dva gameplay to be analysed so that sty could point out the mistakes being made and what should have been done. Do you not understand what this COACHING series is about
@@madnessman1520 It doesn't matter. He shouldn't stay on d.va just to spite him, not if he wants to win. To rank up in this game as a tank, you have to be willing to play main tank sometimes
I'm a dva main and wat u should do when ur baby dva is u should constantly crouch and strafe while shooting it will decrease ur chance if dying and if it's a big group u will get a lot of ultra charge and well as contesting point
I’m a (bad) Hanzo main. I used to be like this D.va and stubbornly play Hanzo against dive comps and Pharmercy duo’s even when I’m getting destroyed/flamed/and asked to swap. When I learned to play hitscans and anti-dive heroes, I became a versatile DPS main and started winning way more games. It sucked to take a several days to spam Quickplay and practice heroes I never played before, but it was well worth it when I returned to comp. In two days, I climbed from low 1300’s to 1700 just because I was able to counter the enemy team’s DPS. Although he’s tilted and being mean, I totally understand this Doom’s frustration. My advice for fellow low elo players is to take the time to learn every hero - even if you’ll never play them in ranked. You’ll learn how they work, their cooldowns, and how they’re countered.
Yo, people need to stop being so thin skinned. This Doomfist guy is right 90% of the time. You need a barrier tank. Yall lost a 6v3... He's not being "SUPER TOXIC". Hes just saying how it is. Stop being so easily hurt by someone being candid with you.
This^ We really have to stop mollycoddling our young, it's turning them into pampered little narcissists that can't remain logical or reasonable in the face of adversity.
This game was so cancerous. They're saying they want to win, but won't actually put the work into actually winning. Want to get better at Overwatch? Stop throwing.
It crushes someone to see this kind of game how down. I can relate to a degree to how this guy felt, however it just is frustrating to know your favorite hero is not working out for the team... P.S. Starlosa's facial expression after this specific player called out they had bomb was pretty bad. That is the kind of face I would make if someone was triggered and getting everyone salty about the game
If you do quick play/Arcade things in competitive you pretty much deserve any backlash you get no matter how its delivered Especially if you're unwilling to adjust because you can literally play other modes but you came to the only mode where people are trying to play seriously and you're being goofy. People have too stop being so Soft and own up to when it's their own fault
At this point I am siding with the doomfist though he was toxic the team had no idea what do do, dva wasn't doing anything I dunno what hammond was doing all game. The doomfist was getting picks pretty much every fight and that isn't enough if the dva is just standing around firing at barriers. And the problem is that he actually has good advice, and anyone with a brain would have simply muted him but then actually followed his advice from the beginning. I mean the sign of madness is to keep doing the same strategy hoping it will change. It doesn't.
I think the long queue times make DPS players really irritated when things go sideways. As a tank/support main i usually shrug the occasional loss away; especially if the team is getting rolled, its obvious there are too many things going wrong to fix in the short amount of time you have, what gets me tilted is C9s, you win the whole game then C9! We all do it, happens mostly when you are rolling the enemy... Im like "WTF man we won to lose it"
10:55 The yeet bomb got caught on the door overhang so the enemy team didn't see it and it just dropped down and exploded without warning. If they meant to do it (they probably didn't) it was actually a masterwork of a play
one of us! one of us! one of us! but yeah IMO nothing compares to the tilt of watching idiots refuse to swap when their countered by literally half the enemy team, (i've had games playing all roles where i honestly believe we would have a better chance if that player just went afk/ DC'd and stopped feeding enemy ult charge)
I always listen, i don't care if you are toxic or not... Though having said that, the Doomfist wasn't toxic, he was frustrated... And rightly so, this Dva belongs in Bronze. >_> No mechanical skill, no game knowledge, no common sense, barely ever uses rocket barrage with Dva, doesn't listen to reason... Yeah, that's a Bronzie that got carried into Gold... Anyways, i always listen, and ask for tips, it helps me learn, which makes me a better player.
@@Venisor21 That's not the problem with the person speaking, that's a narcissist problem with the listener. Strangers have no obligation to soothe your emotions... Though you DO have an obligation to do whatever it takes to win a game in OW competitive, otherwise, you will be reported for gameplay sabotage, which can result in a ban. :P
" if you see a turret, kill the turret." There has been so many times in my games that I could not express this enough if I can kill a turret across all three rolls so can other people but it seems to be difficult for people to understand.
Story time: I was playing Zarya while my friend was playing sigma(both in voice chat), we were on hanamura and capped first point. He was wondering which way we should go in to the 2nd point after capping. I told him to just go down main and our team ended up rolling the enemy and capping without worry.
I once got blamed for the team’s loss with 23k healing and no fucking shields. The Hammond and the Zarya refused to switch to a shield tank. The Hammond just kept diving, not doing ANY damage, and the proceeded to get killed in their back lines
Shield tanks are really needed. D.va is really good as a way to separate the enemy team and is good to defense matrix while shields are down so shield tanks can put up another shield. But if you go d.va and your tank teamate cant play shield tanks as well as you switch
I always try to pick what the team needs to win, I can't help but to be a team player. People who aren't getting anything done and don't swap are either selfish or really... ummm... "unaware" shall we say.
23:56 Seriously Sty, stop saying that Baby D.Va does nothing when you are commentating on a gold game. This is GOLD. If left alone, that Baby D.Va will kill something, probably a squishie. Also, am I the only one confused by Sty constantly saying that DF was saying the right things(sometimes even just moments after Sty paused to say the exact same things), yet also treated him as a troll constantly?
I normally play a lot of Orisa, but i do enjoy rocking in with other tanks. And you know? Sometimes it works out pretty well, but if we are getting kinda slapped about through lack of shields i will default back to Orisa. because you know, even though i play for fun, doesn't mean i'm not playing to win =P
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@@THEbeast-tm5tw Hey I know it's not the map for it but would Ball-Dva dive work on Numbani or Dorado? I know you said in the video that you need a shield tank but if you're playing dive correctly shouldn't the ball function as a main tank? I see a lot of people in the comments ready to flame dive but if you're in plat or below old meta can still work if played right. You're kind of making people toxic to a third of all tank lineups.
@@andrewwood9337 except that your not even understanding what your saying. At high end they are more likely to have comms and a reasonable knowledge of the game. Dive is one of the most team work/communication based comp in the game. That type of teamwork outside of pre-made groups is very, very, very rare. At lower ranks that type of teamwork is non existent. Anything is technically viable with skill and communication, just like it is entirely possible I can win the powerball lottery. Anything is possible, you just have to be realistic in your expectations. Wish in one hand and s#!t in the other and see which fills first.
@@andrewwood9337 secondly without a barrier how do you cut the dive target from healing, ie the Winston bubble in classic dive?
Never in the history of "calm down" has anyone ever calmed down after being told to calm down.
Calm down
Oscar. Square no u
Ive always prefered "calm the f*** down" cause you know calm down wont work so you might as well trigger them to the max. You know...I might be a troll sometimes
I've found it depends on how you ask them to calm down. Saying "calm down" isn't usually useful, but saying things like, "Let's stay calm and figure out a plan", or "These complaints aren't helping us, let's decide on a new plan", etc. 1) There's no I or "you" in team. Approach from a "us" and "we" perspective. 2) What do we do now? What is the plan? Focus the team on what's to come, not what has passed.
This has worked SO many times in the many retail jobs I've had in the past and I find it works often in multiplayer games too. Then again, sometimes people just want to be mad...
Hahaha... Actually, I'm a girl, so when I take my really nice Canadian™ voice and say "Hey, it's okay guys...", I get a much higher success rate lol 😂 I mean, let's be honest: I really want to tell them that they're trash bc it'd be satisfying, but at the same time I want to win the game, so oh well...
The Dva literally said " if you want me to go shield just ask" and Dva didn't
It's a gold dva main what do you expect 😂
@@shanks3280 no doubt just a one trick dva main, if you're trying to play DVA in this meta there was probably never a chance for a swap to maintank
@@0Quakeman0 I'm all against being forced off what you play , but on 2,2,2. Where the meta is favoring double shield or a shield tank and off tank combo. In my eyes why play comp if you gonna play only dva and not flex your almost throwing in my eyes. Either play quick play or switch to dps...
@@0Quakeman0 actually there is a chance, I'm a dva 1 trick in masters, I realized in a match that dva wasn't doing so well so when I tried rein I did pretty damn well. Not all dva 1 tricks are like that.
@@nickarmitt4722 Write me an essay about your butthurt
*_nAh w3 d0nT n33d a bArriEr tAnK_*
imagine queuing for 10+ minutes to get into this
But you don’t have a shield tank then I’ll be pretty pissed too.
Yeah that doomfist needs to be playing hit and run on the supports in the back....but he's playing the regular yolo way.
P5 Satanael you don’t like the new and improved Barrierwatch 2019?
@alexy you won't get a bad team every match and if you do then the other team will likely have the same problems. The only common denominator in those matches that have caused you to drop is you.
@alexy basically the reason that you've dropped to silver is you
"Tell me if we need a shield tank"
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"Okay we need a shield tank"
**Stays on DVA**
...
This player is the worst of them all, wants to climb the ladder but will only play dva, fkn lulz
@@Tubemytune I had a dude complain about dps not getting kills when he had role qued as tank and played Dva while the other tank was a zarya. Enemy had bastion on point with double shield and mercy pocketing it. What is the dps supposed to do without a barrier? Oh well
@@crazyape515 sorry bud, in that situation the ZARYA should've switched, D.va is better against bastion than zarya, and against bastion honestly, D.va and roadhog are honestly a solid tank duo
Both d va and roadhog obliterate bastion
@@sebaschan-uwu exactly, Sigma is good too, but not as consistent of a counter, really if you run at least d.va or RH with anybody, you have a fighting chance against bastion, Junk and hanzo are good dps, Ana is a great support, along with a Lucio can be a really good anti-bastion comp
23:00 “you see a lot of pro dva players kill themselves”
-Stylosa 2019
I mean when Choi ended up in gold he probably wasnt feelin too jazzed
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
stuff without context is fun
Did you see Blase's face by the end of stage 4?
*At the start of the match* "Hey, if you need me to switch to a barrier tank just let me know :)"
*Gets asked to switch to barrier tank*
*Stays **D.VA** for the whole F'ing match*
Once, the dude on Hammond asked if we wanted him to switch to shield tank, so we said yes... He switched to Zarya... FML 🙃
This is why for tank I main Rein, and for DPS I main Genji. Very good at blocking heavy fire.
It’s because the guy who said it was an asshole about it. You’d be surprised at how far asking for things nicely will get you.
@@TheWazzoGamesoh shut up with that bs. This dva played horrible and got mad at the doom who was toxic but is correct. Narcissistic gold player no wonder why they were stuck in gold
Their domfist did had good call outs and I think tanks played bad however the way he was passing the message was terrible.
Thats why this game is dying. People care more about the ways than the actual message
@@HermanHeffner Yeah tbh while he was tilted he was also doing his job and making good callouts. It's VERY easy to see why he got mad because I KNOW many of us have had multiple situations like this where the team got either a pick or multiple picks but they either refuse to dive the point or they SOMEHOW lose in a 4v6 or in this case a fucking 3v6. I know sty called it out but he definitely should have been tougher on the dva because she spent valuable time shooting at a fucking shield as opposed to diving the ash.
@@HermanHeffner The tanks were the bigger issue imo. It's not always the people who are yelling in the mic. I mean it doesn't take a genius to see oh shit they have a shield tank and we don't. We keep getting clobbered. MAYBE I should switch to either a Winston *for the the Hammond* or a sigma or an orisa. Since it's role queue you have more of a responsibility because no one else can just switch to tank.
@@GaZaRaVe you can't just blame the tanks. The DPS weren't getting any picks maybe 1 for each fight. When he was playing Doomfist he basically just jumped in and died for most of the first round. Everyone was to blame in that match
@@HermanHeffner Narcissists... if you don't appeal to their pride and ego, they ignore you... AKA morons, basically.
If you can't take critique, just because it's "rude", you are, by every definition of the word, a moron.
As Toxic as he is... he had some good points about swapping to a shield tank. Also, " DPS THRIVE OFF OF TANKS MAKING SPACE" was stated perfectly.
Dps don't understand what space is below diamond....it's not taking realestate...it's putting pressure on enemy mistakes. Jayne-2019
@@micmccond7 so if the enemies never make mistakes then what?? No space???
@@In7enseCA no mistakes? Lmao even pro players make a decent amount of mistakes
@@In7enseCA if the enemy plays perfectly. Then yeah no space.
@@gogopanda1113 Yeah its legit simple as that. But thats physically impossible because humans do make mistakes. These guys obviously don't get it
blizzard should put those messages at the beginning of a game sayng- No shield tank! or something like that. like it was before 2-2-2
It still baffles me that the game is this old yet people who want to play comp STILL have such shit game sense. It doesn't take a genius to realize " yo we're taking a lot of damage, we don't have a shield tank...... We should probably get one". I couldn't even make it through this episode because that shit was just so frustrating to watch because I know we all had those games where our teammates refuse to make the sensible switch. Then they do it when it's like 40 seconds left.
@@GaZaRaVe Exactly, how can people think that they can win a game without a shield tank, specially with this new meta. Everyone just wants to one-trick a hero, even when it's not effective
I would humbly request that you take a more Gordon Ramsay style approach to OverAnalyzed
Me too, just harsh, cold, criticism. It helps people get used to "rude" critique, helping them listen to people, even if those people are frustrated.
Nah I like this more, I like how he says "we" and points out opportunities flaws etc. He even says in this video that shouting and swearing at people over the internet is a bad idea. Leave that Gordon Ramsey style to the low IQ hogs that want to see people be cruel to others bc their lives are miserable.
@@julymagnus493 wow really going in on being very critical. As if it isn't helpful when the OP is legit saying he would find it more helpful as would I. The vod reviews that xqc did were very like this and they are the reason I'm a plat tank.
@@patrickcampbell957 Idk a lot about XQCs reviews I only watched one or two. (I still have the phrase "That shield only protects you" burned in my head whenever I drop a shield as Winston) but I was mostly talking about Ramsey not Wanteds bitch (also known as XQC).
Ragg Tagg used to do a lot like that i dont know if he still makes them.
Doom had pretty good reason to tilt. He was giving all the right suggestions, but got ignored constantly while he watched tanks throw.
He was tilted before he suggested anything. Fuck him.
the tanks weren’t throwing though, he was just being an ass
@@s4dieee dva ball is 100% a throw. Plus that mercy was super toxic all they had to say was shut up to pretty reasonable suggestions to team comp. Mercy seemed more tilted to me.
Lord Leckatall she was telling him to shut up because of his toxic attitude, not his call outs... he was rude af and as for the d.va ball, it could’ve been better, but it wasn’t really a throw
@@s4dieee he was expressing dissatisfaction at when he got picks fights weren't won. This is far more constructive and less toxic than "shut up".
Amazing how many people dont bother with barriers its shocking.
I think they were thinking we don't want to charge Sim but she'll get to level 3 no matter what. They need to change the charge rate.
@@andrewwood9337 The nerf on the PTR addresses her being a bit too good honestly. They should still probably change the ultimate to something else though because it only adds more barrier to a barrier meta.
Gettting dva instead of winston on this map, should be insta ban
It feels bad playing against sym. She is oppressive on live. Sadly the Doomfist was correct for most of the game. Even if he was an ass about it.
Lol guy on their team said, we dont need one for the comp we have “imo” lol. then you see his rank and it all makes sense
Stylosa: D.Va Coaching video posted!!
Stylose: "Your pick is bad and here's a list of reasons why you should've done literally anything else"
Love when people are blamed. Not saying the dude wasn't toxic or anything, but I wonder what the email said. As a tank main, this match was easily winnable with just 1 hero swap. Winston instead of Dva. Winston and hammond would straight up win the match and they wouldn't even need a rein to block shatter.
These are the same type of tank mains who'll go into a match and say: "I got gold medals, dps suck". Except the amount of feeding this person did on dva was ridiculous. Going after Rein instead of focusing down hammond (who'll stall the point longer), going after a Moira instead of backing off, engaging a Sym who clearly had turrets set up, diving into entire team,feeding ult and dying.
But I guess it's easy to blame others.
As a tank main I agree with this if you have gold Elon’s and your not a sigma the either do’s is trash or you don’t know what a shield is
reminder that the Dva said he would switch to barrier at the beginning of the game if needed
The D.Va said "IF you want me to switch lemme know". They never said they WOULD switch.
This D.Va had major target priority problems, either flailing around wildly of trying to take the Rein in a series of 1v1 battles. Monkey would gave definitely been a better pick against the Ashe, Lucio, Sym and Moira.
Yeah she was basically "Idk what I'm doing but I'm doing it" smh
A tip for general dva.
_FFS You arent a sniper! Dive the enemy's face! Dont shoot at range you have 2 rapid fire shotguns! Too many dvas in gold and plat sit at range and fire getting no value and blaming others_
Ah thanks Minecraft! How's Steve?
@@luukasrajaniemi9487 Even then just dive her face, she'll only get like 20hp back by the time yoy reach her
You are right except that dva shouldn’t ”dive into their face” thats just feeding
@@totallunatic547 Diving the enemy isnt feeding. Its only feeding when theres no follow up and you get no value. Jumping in the reins face is still better then doing 1 damage from far away anyway.
Minecraft neither is a good option
That Diva is trash. Doom was right but had a bad attitude
Philip Johnson i mean they’re in gold for a reason
To be fair the guy playing doom shouldn't be playing doom at that rank especially when there's a sym and he doesn't have zarya to bubble him.
The rank itself doesn’t determine whether he should play doom or not. Sym on the other hand lol not to mention the tanks were just bad picks plain and simple
@@heartofthelion6169 I mean this comp is basically the same as the classic trash comp of having dva and roadhog. Just going to feed your brains out and constantly eat damage.
Exactly this! I'd rather win because of good callouts delivered poorly than bad callouts delivered nicely.
Isn't the D.va being toxic by refusing to switch as well?
Kyle DeGroot yeah maybe
Definately. It was also primarily the dvas fault, as much as doomfist toxicity was tilting everyone at the same time they couldnt do anything. Seriously if you main off tank learn 1 main tank and whenever you are willing to play overwatch and go play tank then be ready to play main tank. Dont like it? Go dps. Dont like dps? Play support? Dont like them? Go quickplay, anything but comp
Yes dva said to ask if she should switch did she switch? No
@@darkwolf1739 Exactly. I would get tilted to if I'm playing another role I'm calling out what we need but they refuse to make the switch for the team. At that point either don't queue up as tank or just go back to quick play. This is comp. Don't hop in if you know you can't make the needed switch for the team.
@Chaotiic 69 ha 70% fault was on the tanks, and in this regard 70% was her fault when looking at herself or 100% because it was winnable
Your over analyzed videos have helped me climb from silver to plat. Keep them coming I'm learning so much. Thank you !
Like sigma said: "its just so simple!!"
simple geometry
@@p5satanael *cough*Simple trigonometry*cough *
Ignoring sym turrets, yea this is gold play alright lol
It's just 5 other people telling themselves "oh my teammates will get those"
Honestly, this is probably why they lost the game. That attack on the Symm on night market hurt my soul.
The MMR system needs to be updated with a multiple choice test you take with alongside placement matches that allows it to factor in game knowledge when trying to assess your skill level
Mitch L. That wouldn’t change anything most players know what they should be doing if you ask them but when they get into a game they just don’t think about it
I've seen so many main tank players making excellent space for dps who dont know how to engage from multiple angles when attacking a double barrier or an orisa frontline, or who follow the rein into a narrow choke on 2cp instead of staying at the main choke and hitting the enemy team when they're rotated
Mitch L. Maybe the Tanks should be taking multiple angles with dive tanks instead of standing at a choke. If you’re not gonna win the shield war then stop playing it.
they can google all the answers so
You know I will say I have been flaming my dps when I have been getting the gold medals as a main tank but I realize from him that we should be asking the dps what is causing them to not be able to put more damage out are we not shielding them enough are we not applying enough pressure to the enemy
Well, also respect that medals are misleading. I often walk with 4 medals on Moria, but Maria's orbs hit everyone and I'll get credit for even a small tickle. Medals don't mean anything ingame
@@ximkai8794 you butchered her name twice in a row wow
@@poophead1503 My god made me crack up
I completely blame the dva player. He constantly was trying to trigger he dude instead of being helpful at all to him or their team. He's the super toxic one just because he isn't vocal...
I can;'t believe anyone agrees with your comment. He tried to trigger the doomfist? He was toxic because he wasn't vocal? That's some fucked up logic.
@@Piterixos No, troll players can be toxic without being vocal. Prime example, Mei players that ice wall the spawn point exit as soon as the door opens.
@@Piterixos you know for a fact the dva had a mic but was too pussy to say anything through voice..
!? I don’t find that to be a problem. It isn’t useful to talk in this situation anyways.
@@Piterixos you know those sibling arguments where you know that you got your brother mad, yet you still say shit just to get him even more mad. That's exactly what this guy was doing, and yes the dva was toxic but just because he doesn't have a mic, doesn't mean that you can't see the true intentions of what he's saying. Plus he wouldn't switch if the game depended on it, which it did. I rest my case.
LOL.
Stylosa: communication is important.
Stylosa: what doomfist is saying is right
Also stylosa: Mute him
Dude you Killen me😂
Playing with a toxic person just gets everyone tiled and distracted, often to the point where learning players start shutting down because they just want to get the game over with so they can move on. Maybe the guy had solid callouts, but his attitude sure as shit was *not* helping. In that situation, you hit mute.
@@sZzzMAXzzZs He's right in saying "push in now", doesn't mean he's right in hurling abuse at another player.
@@vulgaritar48 learning players dont play comp
@@shannonolivas9524 abuse? LOL.
"Guys why arent we pushing "= abuse
Ow is full of babies
"If they had a Rein they would have gone mh"
"If they had a Sigma they would have gone mh"
"If they had a brain they would have gone *MH* around a corner"
*MH.*
It's funny how as the day progresses you can notice that players get more and more tilted
"This person is tilted and should not be playing overwatch" literally 99% of the people in ladder
What happened to 2 overanalyzed a week ?
The fire nation attacked
@@ArukiTsukaru lmao
et de stellis that dude doesn’t even play overwatch. fuck off with the advertising lol
@et de stellis he doesnt even play overeatch you ding dong
The doom had very good points and the wording was fine but it's the tone in which he said it made everyone else annoyed which when people are annoyed/tilted they just forget about the game sometimes and feed
Thanks for this vid! Been queueing as tank for the recent Comp role queue, I've been wanting to play Dva but been mostly been playing Rein or Orisa -- thanks again!💙
@ahmed Achouri lul
All these toxic players should look at themselves and see that it's not just your team that's always the problem.
Edit:I as a player do experience healers that don't do their jobs or dps that focus tanks and feed enemy supports but that's the beauty of the game.There are perfections and imperfections and we should play with our team and try to work around those imperfections.I get that sometimes we can get mad but we are only human and we (as humans) make mistakes.
Itz Poisxned I get toxic when I'm spamming I need healing and all the healer needs to do is turn around and heal me.
Except, as is the case here, sometimes it really is the fault of the team, or at least a couple players on the team in particular.
@@TheLaughinginthedark that's the most infuriating thing in this damn game that's why I barely play anymore healers are so shit, but nobody calls them out cause they're the "backbone" of the team
Puksu 55 that kid probably feeds in the enemy team and expects a healer to keep him alive through that
Gettting dva instead of winston on this map, should be insta ban
That pixel is Symm??? 😂
I don't endorse the way Doomfist is delivering his messages, even if he's right most of the time, but I can totally understand his frustration...
I can't play as much as I used to play a few years ago (or else I wouldn't be silver/gold) and it's horrible to see that even if you play correctly and actually study how the game should be played (and I have to thank you for this Sty !), you can't get out of an Elo where most of the time, you got people in your team that don't know what they should do, or don't care at all :/
In all honesty, i think people like that should be perma-banned from Competitive que... They can have fun playing QP, where they belong.
I'll give my two cents on the D.Va play. There was a lot of poor booster control. Yeah cc makes it hard at times but you should practice your flight until you can do whatever you want to do with no mistakes. The frantic flight paths and poorly executed dives show that you're not very comfortable with the boosters yet. Practice that and you'll be melting Symmetras and Moiras like nobody's business.
Take your time in attacking the enemy. There's no need to push in if nothing has been committed into the fight. Remember, you have the ability to go anywhere. Use that to sit on high ground perches, take off-angles, poke at the enemy, then go for the kill once an opportunity presents itself. That could be a DPS that's out of position, a support that's low, a tank going aggro on your backline, etc.
Also, take care of your teammates. You have a massive body and DM to use when necessary. You never helped your Doomfist despite their toxic attitude. Helping him would have made the Rein's life a living hell.
If you're up for the challenge of playing D.Va, you have to use her kit effectively.
Symmetras an Moiras being melted by a Diva? Dafuq...
What rank are you? Bronze? >_>
Overwatch needs a button on the hero select screen to suggest a character to the players in that role. No shield tank? Then three people hit 'We need a Reinhardt!' when they get slaughtered. Would need a spam controller like chat but would be helpful for sure.
Or - and stay with me on this - people could realize this is a team game, use the chat functions to make such requests in a respectful manner, and learn to read the situation so they themselves can see where their comp is lacking.
@@vulgaritar48 Yeah but on console there are very few people in chat and no text chat option so we just can't suggest anything to our teammates without an xbox message, which takes forever mid-game.
@@grantlinnehan7853 I play on PC and Xbox, and I'm again saying that the issue is a lot of people (low ELOs especially) choose not to utilize the innate communication options already available to them. We don't need more options; people just need to use the ones already in place. Xbox definitely has mic support, I checked.
Just came to watch I'm tilted AF right now
Biggest analysis i have for this Dva: Switch. I didn't see you do a single dive into the enemy back line this whole video. If you're not gonna do that and you're gonna end up front lining just play an actual shield tank. Don't ask if someone wants a shield tank, either play one or dive that back line.
I love the little dance Sty did around 14:55. There was even a little swoosh sound effect! LOL! XD
22:18 THIS 100%.
Never in the history of calming down has somebody calmed down after being told to calm down.
nice steak of the top comment Idiot
It's amazing how many times I see people just ignore the Sym and Torb turrets. I don't get it!
Turrets, reaper, and bastion are my top priority when I main tank. Idgaf what the scenario is, I'm triggered and they are in my safe space.
@@ximkai8794 what do you do as a main tank to counter Bastion? He just shreds me as main tank.
@@kylelinder4623 minimize your distance as much as possible before entering line of sight. Shield up until you are nearly on top of him. Charge into Valhalla!
It's not about surviving the team fight. It's all about killing that damn omnic! let your team carry the rest of the fight. Most of the time, you've caused enough chaos that your team can capitalize on the situation.
It's real hard for the enemy to not turn around to watch you smash their bastion against a wall, secretly, they wanted him dead too.
@@ximkai8794 That's really hard on a Bastion that is hidden from you around a blind spot from all point approach paths.
0:56
general chat foreshadowing
ffs man... you said you switch of anyone ask... nd you dindt
There’s no way that this is the doomfists fault. It’s the dumb tank choices. Why would you ask if the tank choice is ok. You should know that shieldless tank line up disadvantages you
Soapy Papoose he could have been quiet and they still would have lost, I maintain that they would have lost far worse because the Hammond only changed to rein because of his moaning
@@Soapy_Papoose The thing is though the solution is to not talk at all in the game because technically anything can tilt anyone. The Doomfist wasn't nearly as toxic at most people. He wasn't even trying to bring someone down he was just saying that they needed a shield tank, and asking why they weren't pushing. That isn't toxicity that is facts
@@Babsmeme There's also something called being polite. Sorry, but he had a shit attitude which didn't help anyone.
InnocentStar did you happen to play MW2 Snowflake?
You are playing in lijang tower vs symetra and you are not switching to Winston, you deserve all the toxic in the game
THANK....YOU. That's not even a switch. That's supposed to be your first pick. Then you can run either a hammond or a zarya* which would be preferable for the barrier*. All they were doing was feeding their brains out.
Or anything else? As a d.va main I don't play her if the enemy has a sym or Zara sigma combo. She's still a somewhat effective tank, but not against those heroes and you end up doing absolutely nothing except feed ult charge. This person should've realised that, the reason the fight was lost was because of them. The only way to climb is by flexing, not to different roles anymore, but when your hero isn't working you need to be able to play something else.
OK, just some general DVa tips from what I've seen in the video. You need to work on your aim. DVa has to use a combination of hitscan bullets and projectiles to get her dps going, and you really need to hit micro-missiles to kill stuff. Your matrix usage is a bit wonky. It's really common for DVas to spam matrix, especially when the cooldown was 1 second. You need to make sure you use matrix to eat key cooldowns, eat impossible spam to save shields and protect squishies. Break the habit of using matrix at literally everything. Next up, boosters. You seem to love jumping in, but you often end up getting lost in your own screen because you boost into an enemy and when they get bopped, you get disoriented. You can cancel boosters with melee once you're out of the initial boost animation. Not only will this add an extra 30 damage to the booster boop, but it also gives you control a lot quicker and lets your booster cooldown recharge quicker. And don't forget one reason dive tanks are used is because they control their disengage. Multiple times, you didn't fly away when you could have, and either stayed engaged (and consequently lost mech and died) or boosted towards the enemy again (and died). One last baby DVa tip is that you can ask your Mercy to damage boost you to get mech back quicker.
So basically "Improve everything"? xD
This Diva play, honestly belongs in Bronze.
@@MyouKyuubi I was a bronze DVa one-trick at one point, but I eventually got better. This comments section disgusts me with how willing they are to blame this player who submitted their vod to try and get better.
@@xenocheeze6633 If she had listened to Doomfist, she would've already improved as a player... That's why the comments section is giving her shit... She doesn't NEED Stylosa to tell her what she should already know. That's why Stylosa was so speechless at several points of this video. Because how can he critique her in a way that she will actually LISTEN to?
Selective hearing, based on EGO... is a dysfunction... If you cannot listen to critique because said critique was PERCEIVED as "rude"... That is the first problem you need to fix, if you want to be a better player. Just because you think someone is rude, doesn't necessarily invalidate the point they are making.
Also there is no DPS pick in Overwatch that doesn't rely on reliable tanks, so yes, this was ENTIRELY Divas fault.
Narcissism has no place in competitive esports, end of story.
@@MyouKyuubi because callouts like 'I got a pick, why didn't we win?' are what people need to hear in comms. You seem pretty quick to judge someone else and label them with a mental illness (seriously, DO NOT) and put words in Sty's mouth here. You can't seriously expect me to be OK with you saying it's excusable to flame a player because 'he/she played badly omegalul'
Wow.. that was a painful video to watch.... :o
Must've been even more painful to actually play with them lol
@@ArukiTsukaru True, haha! ^_^
I hate tryna play ranked and the dude who’s the SAME RANK AS ME thinks he knows everything
I know this video is 3 years old but here I am seeing this OverAnalyzed for the first time and my god that intro was spicy
actually the doomfist was the guy asking if they needed a shield not the one saying they didn’t
3:04 No, This D.VA player asked. DF said "nahh we coolin"
9:50 This is around 2 min after, and now he is saying what everyone should have known. That they needed a shield tank.
@@MrGamerdude1 They probably could've made it without a shield tank, if they were deserving of a master rank, sadly, that's not the case, because this Dva is a straight up bronze player. No aim, no target priority, no game knowledge, no common sense, rarely uses rocket barrage which is like 50% of your dps as Dva... Narcissistically sensitive causing her to ignore things perceived as "rude" or "toxic" such as the doomfist's frustrated, but valuable critique... Yeah, she's a bronzie.
Even if she did go barrier Tank, the team would still lose. Because this player is that bad. :S
@@MrGamerdude1 Well they might not have needed one but it became clear to Doomfist that they did need one. That isn't the issue. The issue is still trying to play Dva into that comp
i dont understand why you're not suggestion blizzard to make a seperate role queue for shield tanks and offtanks. it literally has no downsides and fixes the game not only for the whole team but also the people who queue for tank
It would make the time it took to find a match even longer
MrBananaSlice also u might want to play main or off tank depending on map, and some teams want to run dive or something
I don’t understand why one can’t learn a shield tank.
@@RhythmAndPlay I mean I do see where your coming from like I think you should be able to play main tank even if you are an off tank
madnessman 15 I’m a so-called dva main and I myself learned a shield tank because she’s just not very useful in this meta unless the other team doesn’t have double shields and/ or no symm or mei. You gotta be versatile in this game because things switch up in an instant.
Trash dva tbh would’ve tilted me too
And that's why the player sent in the dva gameplay to be analysed so that sty could point out the mistakes being made and what should have been done. Do you not understand what this COACHING series is about
@@madnessman1520 lul
madnessman 15 maybe he could have took some coaching from the toxic doomfist and swapped to a barrier tank. Sometimes listening helps.
@@DN-rk9ts yeah obviously communicating helps but the way he was being so toxic wasn't helping anyone.
@@madnessman1520 It doesn't matter. He shouldn't stay on d.va just to spite him, not if he wants to win. To rank up in this game as a tank, you have to be willing to play main tank sometimes
Holy shit I’m glad I finally reached diamond
Its all a clown fiesta chief.
I misread and thought you wrote "reached Hammond" for half a second lol
@Aruki Tsukaru lmao.
I reached Hammond if you know what I mean 😏
I'm a dva main and wat u should do when ur baby dva is u should constantly crouch and strafe while shooting it will decrease ur chance if dying and if it's a big group u will get a lot of ultra charge and well as contesting point
I’m a (bad) Hanzo main. I used to be like this D.va and stubbornly play Hanzo against dive comps and Pharmercy duo’s even when I’m getting destroyed/flamed/and asked to swap. When I learned to play hitscans and anti-dive heroes, I became a versatile DPS main and started winning way more games. It sucked to take a several days to spam Quickplay and practice heroes I never played before, but it was well worth it when I returned to comp. In two days, I climbed from low 1300’s to 1700 just because I was able to counter the enemy team’s DPS. Although he’s tilted and being mean, I totally understand this Doom’s frustration. My advice for fellow low elo players is to take the time to learn every hero - even if you’ll never play them in ranked. You’ll learn how they work, their cooldowns, and how they’re countered.
Yo, people need to stop being so thin skinned. This Doomfist guy is right 90% of the time. You need a barrier tank. Yall lost a 6v3... He's not being "SUPER TOXIC". Hes just saying how it is. Stop being so easily hurt by someone being candid with you.
This^
We really have to stop mollycoddling our young, it's turning them into pampered little narcissists that can't remain logical or reasonable in the face of adversity.
15:00 Mercy activates Valk flies to point and die LMFAO
When look for group was a thing I would make sure everyone played at least three heroes in the role they wanted to play, made it much easier to win
This game was so cancerous. They're saying they want to win, but won't actually put the work into actually winning.
Want to get better at Overwatch?
Stop throwing.
27:50 - 28:15 Stylosa your face was priceless throughout that whole thing XD
It crushes someone to see this kind of game how down. I can relate to a degree to how this guy felt, however it just is frustrating to know your favorite hero is not working out for the team... P.S. Starlosa's facial expression after this specific player called out they had bomb was pretty bad. That is the kind of face I would make if someone was triggered and getting everyone salty about the game
I like watching the tank coaching videos because it helps improve my tank play and help me remember the little things as well
If you do quick play/Arcade things in competitive you pretty much deserve any backlash you get no matter how its delivered Especially if you're unwilling to adjust because you can literally play other modes but you came to the only mode where people are trying to play seriously and you're being goofy. People have too stop being so Soft and own up to when it's their own fault
the only other thing more toxic than this match is the out of sync audio
I logged on to get some tips on playing my favourite off tank, but instead I get told to keep playing Orisa!
At this point I am siding with the doomfist though he was toxic the team had no idea what do do, dva wasn't doing anything I dunno what hammond was doing all game. The doomfist was getting picks pretty much every fight and that isn't enough if the dva is just standing around firing at barriers.
And the problem is that he actually has good advice, and anyone with a brain would have simply muted him but then actually followed his advice from the beginning. I mean the sign of madness is to keep doing the same strategy hoping it will change. It doesn't.
I love to see you make a video on when to play certain heroes. I think it would help lower players
"He should not be playing Overwatch anymore, but he's addicted so he just keeps coming back" : Maybe describes me a little (lol).
1 of the best bronze games I've seen in a while🤣🤣🤣
I think the long queue times make DPS players really irritated when things go sideways. As a tank/support main i usually shrug the occasional loss away; especially if the team is getting rolled, its obvious there are too many things going wrong to fix in the short amount of time you have, what gets me tilted is C9s, you win the whole game then C9! We all do it, happens mostly when you are rolling the enemy... Im like "WTF man we won to lose it"
The doomfist wasn’t even being toxic he just wanted the team to play a decent comp
Overwatch is a simple game, just play who you're comfortable with
16:08 isn't wrecking ball a main tank? Does he mean a barrier tank is needed?
I have more fun watching your videos than actually playing the game lmao
21 seconds in, thumbs up already with the apt description of Doomfist players.
Yesterday I got a triple kill as baby DVA haha
Sty... please watch kill feed, the Reinhardt died literally 8-10 seconds before he threw the bomb at 11:25
Sty throwing Overanalyzed confirmed lol
Aruki Tsukaru lmaooo!
10:55 The yeet bomb got caught on the door overhang so the enemy team didn't see it and it just dropped down and exploded without warning. If they meant to do it (they probably didn't) it was actually a masterwork of a play
That guy made sense, maybe I should start listening to toxic players more.
one of us! one of us! one of us!
but yeah IMO nothing compares to the tilt of watching idiots refuse to swap when their countered by literally half the enemy team, (i've had games playing all roles where i honestly believe we would have a better chance if that player just went afk/ DC'd and stopped feeding enemy ult charge)
I always listen, i don't care if you are toxic or not... Though having said that, the Doomfist wasn't toxic, he was frustrated... And rightly so, this Dva belongs in Bronze. >_>
No mechanical skill, no game knowledge, no common sense, barely ever uses rocket barrage with Dva, doesn't listen to reason... Yeah, that's a Bronzie that got carried into Gold...
Anyways, i always listen, and ask for tips, it helps me learn, which makes me a better player.
The problem is the way they are saying it makes people not want to listen.
@@Venisor21 That's not the problem with the person speaking, that's a narcissist problem with the listener.
Strangers have no obligation to soothe your emotions... Though you DO have an obligation to do whatever it takes to win a game in OW competitive, otherwise, you will be reported for gameplay sabotage, which can result in a ban. :P
@@MyouKyuubi that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Stylosa teaching the wood tiers that Hammond is an off tank... smh.
Wait, he's not a support!?!???
I love when he says “yeeted”
This has to be the goldest of gold vods Ive ever seen
" if you see a turret, kill the turret." There has been so many times in my games that I could not express this enough if I can kill a turret across all three rolls so can other people but it seems to be difficult for people to understand.
well, their rein *was* dead when they threw the bomb onto the point the first time, wasnt he?
i honestly forgot what it’s like to have basically no queue time
Story time:
I was playing Zarya while my friend was playing sigma(both in voice chat), we were on hanamura and capped first point. He was wondering which way we should go in to the 2nd point after capping. I told him to just go down main and our team ended up rolling the enemy and capping without worry.
@20:58 "Instead, we're like 'there's Sym. Hmm... what does Sym do?'"
I once got blamed for the team’s loss with 23k healing and no fucking shields. The Hammond and the Zarya refused to switch to a shield tank. The Hammond just kept diving, not doing ANY damage, and the proceeded to get killed in their back lines
This whole team got Overwatch'd.
Shield tanks are really needed. D.va is really good as a way to separate the enemy team and is good to defense matrix while shields are down so shield tanks can put up another shield. But if you go d.va and your tank teamate cant play shield tanks as well as you switch
I feel like these videos really helped me get better!
Nobody:
Stylosa:Overwatch is easy
Everybody:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
dva: want a shield tank?
doomfist: nah we cool
tanks: *doesn't play shields*
doomfist: uh i can't believe you've done this
Ryan Nguyen the dva said they’ll switch if they ask ? And they don’t switch
0:06 that one baby at the restaurant
I always try to pick what the team needs to win, I can't help but to be a team player. People who aren't getting anything done and don't swap are either selfish or really... ummm... "unaware" shall we say.
Oblivious? Clueless? Goddamn fucking stupid? xD
23:56 Seriously Sty, stop saying that Baby D.Va does nothing when you are commentating on a gold game. This is GOLD. If left alone, that Baby D.Va will kill something, probably a squishie.
Also, am I the only one confused by Sty constantly saying that DF was saying the right things(sometimes even just moments after Sty paused to say the exact same things), yet also treated him as a troll constantly?
I normally play a lot of Orisa, but i do enjoy rocking in with other tanks. And you know? Sometimes it works out pretty well, but if we are getting kinda slapped about through lack of shields i will default back to Orisa. because you know, even though i play for fun, doesn't mean i'm not playing to win =P