You should do a whole series of videos. I'm betting you've got a lot more to teach and video would be more helpful than the illustrations in the old manuals.
UPDATE: Since this comment I've completed a couple series of videos on Capital and lower case letters as well as some fundamentals of handwriting. See the playlists on my channel: ruclips.net/channel/UCMJQJcvveDzc1N5qYJSX7Nwplaylists Thanks for checking out the video. I certainly could do more videos, it's a matter of how I'd like to spend my time though. I'm pretty deep into developing my penmanship at this point and I want that to be my main focus. If you have a specific question or topic you'd like to see addressed, I'd be happy to make a video.
My mother was born in 1915 and to write handwriting by the Palmer Method and had exquisite handwriting although she had to leave school in the very low grades to take care of her family since her mother was ill. She highly educated herself through reading fiercely and in even writing a never published book. Her name was Mary Irene Franklin Taylor. She has passed back to God.♥️
Thanks for sharing Connie. If you have any samples of your mother’s writing, I’d love to see a picture/scan. You can send it to me using this form: consistentcursive.com/contact/
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for!!!!! I recently learned I have an improper pencil grip and when I tried to switch to the proper one, I felt like I didn’t have enough stability. Switching to this version of proper grip gives me the stability I need to write neatly and since I learned how to employ my arm muscles when learning how to draw, my handwriting didn’t suffer when I switched to this!
I just tried this for the firs time in my life with a fountain pen, and I instantly noticed that it became much easier to keep a consistent tilt. Most of all, however, despite the very unusual nature of this method for me, I actually felt that I wanted to continue writing the sentence indefinitely. It feels much less constraining and therefore more pleasurable to write. Thank you for the video, sir.
Thank you for being one of the few on the net that actually perform the Palmer Method correctly. May I only add that by the time you get about halfway through a line, you shouldn't move your hand to the right to complete the line.. Keep your hand where it is and move the paper to the left.
Thanks for publishing this video. Having been born in the early 2000s, our schooling briefly covered cursive but never required it, so I grew up writing in print with my fingers. Trying to go back to cursive and retrain myself, your video helps a lot!
Wow! not even remotely easy. You're right in saying you really do almost have to learn to write all over again from scratch. Very informative, thank you.
I find this to be pretty hilarious considering I found this because I was trying to find a healthy way to train mouse movement in fps games, and what I've seen and heard is very much the same as handwriting in a smooth and controlled manner. using the arm in writing is pretty much the same as mouse movement and you use the shoulder and forearm for extremely smooth yet a little imprecise movement. Great video even though not quite what I'm after lol and about 5 years late :^)
The two things I've been hunting for, and haven't been able to find: "palm down", and "fingers aren't moving". Thank you! I'm learning Spencerian (same grip, as far as I understand) , and even the original material in modern republications don't specify the details of that, at least not that I could find! I didn't want to proceed too far along until I could figure out the right use of the hand so I didn't teach myself bad habits I had to break. Thank you so much!
Ok, now I feel better equipped to get on track! I'm trying to learn from a 1915 copy of the manual i found and it's well-illustrated, but pictures can really only do so much. The palm direction is definitely helpful! I was doing the first scribbling and circle drill like why am I doing this!!! But this actually tells me I was on basically the right track, and it looked like crap because I'm just not used to it
OMG!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!! I have been trying to learn the the Palmer method for the past month w/o any improvement. And realized my muscular movement has been completely incorrect. I was still utiizing finger writing...huge difference. Thank you for this enlightenment!!!
This style of writing seems a lot more conducive to cursive script, which obviously flows a lot better than "regular" print-style script. (At least, it seems that way to me). Really interesting! Thanks for uploading this video.
When I first started trying to imitate Business Penmanship letterforms, I hated its exercises and techniques. After about ten month of focus, I’ve fallen in love with the technique, and tolerate the exercises.
Thank you for this great teaching. I subscribed, because I want to hear and see more. What kind of pens; fountain, calligraphy, ballpoint, rollerball, mechanical, .. nibs and more.
I'm not into pens all that much. I find them to be a distraction as one can write beautifully with just about anything. I write with my parker extra fine ballpoint and 2-3 nibs in my straight holder dip pen. All that said, there are some pen/paper setups that will be helpful for someone working on muscular movement/palmer method writing that I might do a video about. In general, the idea is to have a paper/pen combo that doesn't have the pen sliding all over the page. If you aren't committed to muscular movement/palmer method, then what you write with or on is all about aesthetics.
Does anyone else have the hardest time getting into a comfy posture at their desk? Maybe I just need more surface area, my desk can get a little crowded w my laptop, printer, & notebook. And cat.
I'm having a challenge with that, too. I've cleared enough stuff off my table that I don't think space is the issue. I've had a heck of a time getting my body and arm and hand and paper into the right position. In fact, before I start writing I have to spend some time being very conscious of getting my sitting position proper. There's a guy on YT who discusses the mechanics of posture etc in a 3-part video. I think his name is pascribe. I found it very helpful, especially for chair height, table height, and body in relation to the table. That's helped a lot, but I find myself constantly fidgeting and feeling uncomfortable, although that might be due in part to back issues. PS: Perfect Bisscuits' video "side view of muscular movement" goes a long way to help getting one in the proper position.
I know this is an older question but in case anyone else comes looking, Perfect Bisscuits has an excellent video on hand and finger position, viewed from the side: ruclips.net/video/7setkJXxfd4/видео.html
When I learned they would no longer teach cursive handwriting in public schools, I rebelliously began practicing again. I see our gracious host has worn a hole in the flesh of his right knuckle. Occupational hazard. I'm left handed, and battled our peculiar curse of smearing the ink with my little finger as I worked from left to right.
Just a question, if you don't mind. I can actually do muscular movement on x-heights of 8-5-3mm, but it becomes really uncomfortable and unnatural at 2mm, which is the x-height of Seyes notebooks and the supposed height to get to to write faster. All the manuals I looked at talked about muscular movement apart for Sull, who says to use arm to move across letters and fingers to draw the letters. So, am I supposed to use arm movement even at 2mm? I don't really use fingers, but defenitely use my wrist at that height.
Arm movement is definitely possible at 2mm, but it requires more control. As you practice and develop your arm movement further, smaller x-heights will become more comfortable. That said, wrist and hand movement becomes more important as you decrease the x-height, so don’t be afraid to use it.
I have my competitive exams in about ten months time or more. The need of the hour is to write legible and fast. I had flunked bad this time around in the same exam, the reasons were hand fatigue and lack of time to complete the papers. Do you think this will allow me to write fast? I write with my fingers and I hold the pen way to hard and it hurts, it hurts a lot.
Haha, I just commented on your video on Reddit. I believe I am using a vintage Esterbrook fine school pen, which you can't buy online. These days I've been writing with Leonardt Principal EF, Hunt 101, or Gillot 303. They are all pretty similar nibs, just slightly different thicknesses and flex. All of them are very flexy, which I like because it forces me to use a light touch.
Ah I see. I was wondering if it was flexy. I tend to look for stiffer nibs when practicing with a dip pen, but maybe I'll try another to really develop that light touch.
A good stiff nib is the Nikko School Nib, which you can find on John Neal or Paper Ink Arts (I believe). But yea, I would recommend using a flexy nib all the time for the next few months. Once you are confident in your light touch, you can sub a stiffer nib in if you want.
Ah I yes I have some Nikko 555 that I like for Business Handwriting, not sure if this is the same nib. Thanks for the feedback by the way. I'll take to your recommendations
what do you mean a "fountain pen with a dip nib"? Regardless, it doesn't really matter. Fountain, dip, ballpoint, rollerball, pencil - they all work. Ballpoint has always seemed easiest for me. Dip pens are easier than ballpoints once you get the hang of using a dip pen and find the right nib.
@@SpocksCat I'm not familiar with those pens. But if they take a dip pen nib then I assume it would work just like a dip pen nib and therefore be fine to practice with.
If I practice everyday for so and so minutes everyday how should my transitory handwriting be? Should I still finger write my letters in my lectures because I lack the full ability of the palmer method? Or should I always try to do the Palmer method?
You can switch back and forth just make sure you hold the pen right! I switch back and forth myself, depending on situation and feeling of precision. I am very experinced with muscular movement but sometimes it just not right space or i don't have enough control at the moment and finger movement gives better precision
Yes, I can see what I'm writing without any issues. The key is to bend at the waist to move your head forward so you can see over your hand. This is actually something I've been working on as I tend to want to hunch my back to see over my hand, which tenses up the shoulders/neck which is not only painful, but produces tense writing.
I appreciate their not being a musical tract during the lesson. Better to concentrate on what is being said about writing. The sound of pen on paper is enough music for me.
I'm resting the forearm muscle near the elbow on the edge of the desk. Takes most people a lot of practice before they are comfortable writing this way.
I feel like I'm able to write without using my fingers nor my wrist, but I do feel that the muscle under my elbow isn't working but the elbow itself. I guess that's not a proper way of writing in this style?
The muscle below the elbow (forearm muscle) certainly provides some of the power to the writing, but it's primary role is to function as a pivot point. Most of the power comes from the upper arm, shoulder, and back muscles. At least that's what it feels like to me and what I have heard from other penman who write this way.
Yes!! I'm no expert and working hard to learn this method to reduce joint pain, especially wrist pain. The shoulder muscle info is crucial imho. This awesome video combined with the article below helped me the most so far. www.paperpenalia.com/handwriting.html
There should be zero stiffness in your thumb. I'd have to see a picture or video of your grip to determine what is causing that. If you are traditionally a "finger writer" and are transitioning to arm writing, you are going to experience degradation in your handwriting while you develop control with your arm.
Firstly, you're probably learning a new way of writing, so it takes some getting used to. Also, you will be using different muscles so it can take them a while to adjust just as with any physical exercise.
Can anyone recommend a good source for the type of workbooks we used to have in grade school, back in the 80s/early 90s? I learned a calligraphic style of cursive in 5th grade (89-90) and I want to brush up on it now. I just don’t know what what it’s called. I’ve been told it’s Palmer method, but that doesn’t seem accurate. If I could look at a catalog and find it by sight, I’d be in Heaven. 😉
Here's a sample of what Palmer Method (aka Business Penmanship) looks like: thepalmermethod.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/palmer-method-excerpt_amount-of-practice-min-1024x713.jpg
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You should do a whole series of videos. I'm betting you've got a lot more to teach and video would be more helpful than the illustrations in the old manuals.
UPDATE: Since this comment I've completed a couple series of videos on Capital and lower case letters as well as some fundamentals of handwriting. See the playlists on my channel: ruclips.net/channel/UCMJQJcvveDzc1N5qYJSX7Nwplaylists
Thanks for checking out the video. I certainly could do more videos, it's a matter of how I'd like to spend my time though. I'm pretty deep into developing my penmanship at this point and I want that to be my main focus. If you have a specific question or topic you'd like to see addressed, I'd be happy to make a video.
@@PerfectBiscuits should we practise the drills slowly or fast? And should we focus on the back and forth movement or on the right to left movement?
Probably make more money off youtube videos too.
The specifics on gripping the pen ARE MUCH CLEARER than others. Thank you! I learned some critical distinction!!!
My mother was born in 1915 and to write handwriting by the Palmer Method and had exquisite handwriting although she had to leave school in the very low grades to take care of her family since her mother was ill. She highly educated herself through reading fiercely and in even writing a never published book.
Her name was
Mary Irene Franklin Taylor.
She has passed back to God.♥️
Thanks for sharing Connie. If you have any samples of your mother’s writing, I’d love to see a picture/scan. You can send it to me using this form: consistentcursive.com/contact/
She had such a beautiful name. May she be in peace.
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for!!!!! I recently learned I have an improper pencil grip and when I tried to switch to the proper one, I felt like I didn’t have enough stability. Switching to this version of proper grip gives me the stability I need to write neatly and since I learned how to employ my arm muscles when learning how to draw, my handwriting didn’t suffer when I switched to this!
Hows your handwriting coming? I'm trying to practice 20 mins everyday!
I just tried this for the firs time in my life with a fountain pen, and I instantly noticed that it became much easier to keep a consistent tilt. Most of all, however, despite the very unusual nature of this method for me, I actually felt that I wanted to continue writing the sentence indefinitely. It feels much less constraining and therefore more pleasurable to write. Thank you for the video, sir.
Sounds like you're on the right track!
Thank you for being one of the few on the net that actually perform the Palmer Method correctly. May I only add that by the time you get about halfway through a line, you shouldn't move your hand to the right to complete the line.. Keep your hand where it is and move the paper to the left.
Yea, it's a bad habit that crops up now and again. Thanks for watching!
@@PerfectBiscuits Pin this.
Thanks for publishing this video. Having been born in the early 2000s, our schooling briefly covered cursive but never required it, so I grew up writing in print with my fingers. Trying to go back to cursive and retrain myself, your video helps a lot!
Kindly suggest a method which is fast to write and legible for the exam which requires long writing!
The demonstration of which direction the palm faces was quite helpful, thank-you. I hadn't picked that up before.
Honestly this technique has saved my wrist. I'm definitely teaching my kids this method to save them from wrist pain.
Wow! not even remotely easy. You're right in saying you really do almost have to learn to write all over again from scratch. Very informative, thank you.
I find this to be pretty hilarious considering I found this because I was trying to find a healthy way to train mouse movement in fps games, and what I've seen and heard is very much the same as handwriting in a smooth and controlled manner. using the arm in writing is pretty much the same as mouse movement and you use the shoulder and forearm for extremely smooth yet a little imprecise movement. Great video even though not quite what I'm after lol and about 5 years late :^)
The two things I've been hunting for, and haven't been able to find: "palm down", and "fingers aren't moving". Thank you!
I'm learning Spencerian (same grip, as far as I understand) , and even the original material in modern republications don't specify the details of that, at least not that I could find! I didn't want to proceed too far along until I could figure out the right use of the hand so I didn't teach myself bad habits I had to break. Thank you so much!
Glad you found the video! If you have any questions, let me know!
Ok, now I feel better equipped to get on track! I'm trying to learn from a 1915 copy of the manual i found and it's well-illustrated, but pictures can really only do so much. The palm direction is definitely helpful! I was doing the first scribbling and circle drill like why am I doing this!!! But this actually tells me I was on basically the right track, and it looked like crap because I'm just not used to it
Aidan Walker good to hear, let me know if you have any questions!
OMG!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!! I have been trying to learn the the Palmer method for the past month w/o any improvement. And realized my muscular movement has been completely incorrect. I was still utiizing finger writing...huge difference. Thank you for this enlightenment!!!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching. Let me know if you have any questions.
This style of writing seems a lot more conducive to cursive script, which obviously flows a lot better than "regular" print-style script. (At least, it seems that way to me). Really interesting! Thanks for uploading this video.
When I first started trying to imitate Business Penmanship letterforms, I hated its exercises and techniques. After about ten month of focus, I’ve fallen in love with the technique, and tolerate the exercises.
Which exercises do your recommend to practice everyday with this metod my friend?
Thanks for your demonstration. I finally got it right!
Thank you for this great teaching. I subscribed, because I want to hear and see more. What kind of pens; fountain, calligraphy, ballpoint, rollerball, mechanical, .. nibs and more.
I'm not into pens all that much. I find them to be a distraction as one can write beautifully with just about anything. I write with my parker extra fine ballpoint and 2-3 nibs in my straight holder dip pen.
All that said, there are some pen/paper setups that will be helpful for someone working on muscular movement/palmer method writing that I might do a video about. In general, the idea is to have a paper/pen combo that doesn't have the pen sliding all over the page. If you aren't committed to muscular movement/palmer method, then what you write with or on is all about aesthetics.
Does anyone else have the hardest time getting into a comfy posture at their desk? Maybe I just need more surface area, my desk can get a little crowded w my laptop, printer, & notebook. And cat.
I'm having a challenge with that, too. I've cleared enough stuff off my table that I don't think space is the issue. I've had a heck of a time getting my body and arm and hand and paper into the right position.
In fact, before I start writing I have to spend some time being very conscious of getting my sitting position proper.
There's a guy on YT who discusses the mechanics of posture etc in a 3-part video. I think his name is pascribe. I found it very helpful, especially for chair height, table height, and body in relation to the table.
That's helped a lot, but I find myself constantly fidgeting and feeling uncomfortable, although that might be due in part to back issues.
PS: Perfect Bisscuits' video "side view of muscular movement" goes a long way to help getting one in the proper position.
Keep going. You are doing a great job.
Good to hear. Thanks for watching.
Sir please tell me bettet about the position of index finger.
Is there something specific you don't understand about the position of the index finger?
I know this is an older question but in case anyone else comes looking, Perfect Bisscuits has an excellent video on hand and finger position, viewed from the side:
ruclips.net/video/7setkJXxfd4/видео.html
PB good stuff as always !
My wrist tends to angle out to the right, it's really hard for me to keep the wrist straight
When I learned they would no longer teach cursive handwriting in public schools, I rebelliously began practicing again.
I see our gracious host has worn a hole in the flesh of his right knuckle. Occupational hazard. I'm left handed, and battled our peculiar curse of smearing the ink with my little finger as I worked from left to right.
Just a question, if you don't mind. I can actually do muscular movement on x-heights of 8-5-3mm, but it becomes really uncomfortable and unnatural at 2mm, which is the x-height of Seyes notebooks and the supposed height to get to to write faster. All the manuals I looked at talked about muscular movement apart for Sull, who says to use arm to move across letters and fingers to draw the letters. So, am I supposed to use arm movement even at 2mm? I don't really use fingers, but defenitely use my wrist at that height.
Arm movement is definitely possible at 2mm, but it requires more control. As you practice and develop your arm movement further, smaller x-heights will become more comfortable.
That said, wrist and hand movement becomes more important as you decrease the x-height, so don’t be afraid to use it.
Thanks for the video... Can this method be used for any kind of lettering spencerian cursive etc
Yes for Spencerian, but too a much less degree.
Turning the palm down like you’re showing in this video doesn’t work for left handed writers. I can’t see what I’m writing. Any suggestions?
It work, just watch this video: ruclips.net/video/_CfrbVtZHLA/видео.htmlsi=UnRImxnskqDH4gIS
Thankyou so much! ❤🎉😊
Nicely Explained.
I have my competitive exams in about ten months time or more. The need of the hour is to write legible and fast. I had flunked bad this time around in the same exam, the reasons were hand fatigue and lack of time to complete the papers. Do you think this will allow me to write fast? I write with my fingers and I hold the pen way to hard and it hurts, it hurts a lot.
Yes it will work, but it takes a lot of practice.
This is an excellent video, thank you for making it! What kind of nib are you using this sample?
Haha, I just commented on your video on Reddit.
I believe I am using a vintage Esterbrook fine school pen, which you can't buy online. These days I've been writing with Leonardt Principal EF, Hunt 101, or Gillot 303. They are all pretty similar nibs, just slightly different thicknesses and flex. All of them are very flexy, which I like because it forces me to use a light touch.
Ah I see. I was wondering if it was flexy. I tend to look for stiffer nibs when practicing with a dip pen, but maybe I'll try another to really develop that light touch.
A good stiff nib is the Nikko School Nib, which you can find on John Neal or Paper Ink Arts (I believe). But yea, I would recommend using a flexy nib all the time for the next few months. Once you are confident in your light touch, you can sub a stiffer nib in if you want.
Ah I yes I have some Nikko 555 that I like for Business Handwriting, not sure if this is the same nib. Thanks for the feedback by the way. I'll take to your recommendations
What's the name of the pen you are using? Also keep up the GREAT WORK. your videos have helped tremendously
The nib is an esterbrook 1000. It’s a vintage nib, could maybe find it on ebay.
Hi , hope you are doing fine during this pandemic, i had one doubt is palmer method good or better for notes making then wrist writing?
Rajul Singh Panwar you’ll be able to write longer using your arm without pain then your wrist.
@@PerfectBiscuits thank u sir
Very useful, thanks!
Where did you get that pen? Looks cool!
It's called "Turn of the Century", got it from PaperInkArts.com.
What do you think of learning the Palmer Method with a fountain pen with a dip nib?
what do you mean a "fountain pen with a dip nib"? Regardless, it doesn't really matter. Fountain, dip, ballpoint, rollerball, pencil - they all work. Ballpoint has always seemed easiest for me. Dip pens are easier than ballpoints once you get the hang of using a dip pen and find the right nib.
@@PerfectBiscuits I mean fountain pens that take a nib designed for dip pens. Do you think that would be similar to practicing with a dip pen?
@@SpocksCat I'm not familiar with those pens. But if they take a dip pen nib then I assume it would work just like a dip pen nib and therefore be fine to practice with.
@@PerfectBiscuits Thank you!
Method I learned in second grade... way back in 1982
How do I get lower on the paper?
What do you mean?
If I practice everyday for so and so minutes everyday how should my transitory handwriting be? Should I still finger write my letters in my lectures because I lack the full ability of the palmer method? Or should I always try to do the Palmer method?
Do as much as you can. If you can tolerate your Palmer Method for note taking then use it.
You can switch back and forth just make sure you hold the pen right! I switch back and forth myself, depending on situation and feeling of precision. I am very experinced with muscular movement but sometimes it just not right space or i don't have enough control at the moment and finger movement gives better precision
Another question... can you clearly see what you're writing, or at some point your fingers are getting in the way?
Yes, I can see what I'm writing without any issues. The key is to bend at the waist to move your head forward so you can see over your hand. This is actually something I've been working on as I tend to want to hunch my back to see over my hand, which tenses up the shoulders/neck which is not only painful, but produces tense writing.
Ok, I got the idea now, thank you!
I think I got it in one take!
Nice !
I appreciate their not being a musical tract during the lesson. Better to concentrate on what is being said about writing. The sound of pen on paper is enough music for me.
Good video.
Thx super helpful
Hey, which portion of your arm are you resting on the desk? Or are you even resting your arm at all? I'm unable to write this way if I rest my arm.
I'm resting the forearm muscle near the elbow on the edge of the desk. Takes most people a lot of practice before they are comfortable writing this way.
Hi dude, which book do you recommend me to start?
I'd probably go with The Champion Method (archive.org/details/ChampionMethodOfPracticalBusinessWriting). Very practical copy and lots of great drills.
I feel like I'm able to write without using my fingers nor my wrist, but I do feel that the muscle under my elbow isn't working but the elbow itself. I guess that's not a proper way of writing in this style?
The muscle below the elbow (forearm muscle) certainly provides some of the power to the writing, but it's primary role is to function as a pivot point. Most of the power comes from the upper arm, shoulder, and back muscles. At least that's what it feels like to me and what I have heard from other penman who write this way.
Perfect Biscuits ook, thanks! :)
Yes!! I'm no expert and working hard to learn this method to reduce joint pain, especially wrist pain. The shoulder muscle info is crucial imho. This awesome video combined with the article below helped me the most so far. www.paperpenalia.com/handwriting.html
Why my thumb gone stiff when i start writing since few days and my hand writing become worst
There should be zero stiffness in your thumb. I'd have to see a picture or video of your grip to determine what is causing that.
If you are traditionally a "finger writer" and are transitioning to arm writing, you are going to experience degradation in your handwriting while you develop control with your arm.
Firstly, you're probably learning a new way of writing, so it takes some getting used to. Also, you will be using different muscles so it can take them a while to adjust just as with any physical exercise.
My hand writing is horrible,it pains in hand and it's really embarassing in office pls help me
Sorry to hear that. What are you doing to improve your handwriting besides watching this video?
What pen is that?
Pen point is a vintage Esterbrook School Nib.
I heard about this on MST3K
Can anyone recommend a good source for the type of workbooks we used to have in grade school, back in the 80s/early 90s? I learned a calligraphic style of cursive in 5th grade (89-90) and I want to brush up on it now. I just don’t know what what it’s called. I’ve been told it’s Palmer method, but that doesn’t seem accurate. If I could look at a catalog and find it by sight, I’d be in Heaven. 😉
Here's a sample of what Palmer Method (aka Business Penmanship) looks like: thepalmermethod.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/palmer-method-excerpt_amount-of-practice-min-1024x713.jpg
@@PerfectBiscuits it’s very close. I’ll see if I can post a sample.
Very interesting topic to me " how to teach a child to hold pencil "
01:30 when he actually talks about it
Thank you
This isnt how everyone writes? I need to learn another way because i cant write a lot. Im 42, its my natural and still hurts.
@@8ball_Envy i’ve never seen one person in my entire life write this naturally and nobody teaches writing like this in school anymore.
Handwriting of a pen levert lewis G Mail Com.Sync date time.
More show and demonstrate vs talking would help. And/or write and show as one talks. Put ink to the page. Appreciate the effort.
I got a ball on my middle finger.
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Well here goes nothing
Kids today don't hold pens and pencils correctly. They're never taught how.
Boss, Your pronunciation is not very clear.Please structure it better as well.Not good.
George Bakthan there’s always one