Please I'm from Nigeria and I am 21 years old, I have 4 years experience of roofing and furniture works I'm pleading I want to apply for a job in your country south Africa please I need help please
Michael Eldridge In theory yes if your building is dead square and plates level. I'm a chippy with 27 years experience and I always take the direct measurement of the hips as there are a lot of crap Brickies in the UK who can't build square. Everything else I cut on the floor using the square. They could cut the jacks without measuring but they aren't using a traditional roofing square. No need for the poleplate on top of the joists either. The wall plate is sufficient. I guess they aren't proper roofing carpenters.
That method might work on the simplest of homes .. but when you get into the crazy complex homes today .. The error of stepping off or scaling is inaccurate .. I come from Old School carpentry .. and realized when I hit the Big Complex homes .. The error factor was just too much
Typical framing ... kinda old-school .. I see 3 rafters "King Rafters " that are a waste to install .. All they are used for in old school is to establish the ridge .. .. Cheek cut the hips instead of a wedged ducktailed hip . 2 hips can establish the ridge as well if not better than 3 Kings and 2 hips .. Then you gotta deal with the kings in straightening when sheathing the roof and interference with joist .. Then when I see the 100' tape to the heel .. That is a heel sweep and when they match that is not actually the hip rafter length , but two points that come into agreeance or if the roof is out of square .. A reference point for individual length to be transferred to the hip .. Now many moons ago , I too used to reference a king or the straightest layout rafter , hook a tape and lay out unto the rafter and then measure to Heel Sweep.. have someone hold the tape on every individual hip jack rafter sweep and list them .. Or the other system of Common Length Difference and walk off the numbers according to the tables or a nifty Construction Master .. The problem with CLD is it only works in a perfect world and many times ends up fishing out the hip jacks and sliding off layout ..Thus customized sheathing cuts or scabs !! .. .. I estimate this is a 6/12 roof .. . I have developed a way besides eliminating King Rafters .. That guarantees supreme accuracy regardless of conditions .. That doesn't require a ton of bracing to straighten , a ton of scaffolding . someone measuring each one individually nor following a Construction Master for CLD .. No marking the hips .. Just cut and install .. But center string the hip and as soon as the hip is straight at that point .. Nail it .. and it will be a perfect layout be it 16" -13.71" -19.2" or 24" and takes 20 times less effort and a 100 times more accurate and 20 times less work .. Kinda complex at first but simple once learned and I have freaked out other carpenters that said " It couldn't be done " .. Here goes how it works .. The CLD on a 6/12 hip jack rafter = 17.88 @ 16 o.c. .. So there is the number of inquiry is at 17.888" Heel sweep the longest rafter and transfer it to the top of a Heel Plumb Cut Line.. say it come out the longest hip jack rafter is 226-5/16"... " Record !!" .. Heel Sweep the shortest hip jack rafter and transfer it to the top of a Heel Plumb Cut Line and say it comes out to 12-3/8" ... Now subtract 12-3/8 from 226-5/16= 213-15/16" .. I personally transfer all my fractions to decimals " ... Now you have 213.9375 " ... Now divide 213.9375 by 17,88" The Common Length Difference " = 11.959.. .. Now round to 12 .. There will be 12 Hip Jack Rafters.bays or 13 Rafters . Take 213.9375 and divide by 12 = 17.828 " .. That is your CLD .. and in going back to your longest hip jack rafter or 226.3125 begin to subtract 17.828 as a constant .. Your rafters will list as and return to 12.375" or 12-3/8 " 226.3125..... 208.48.... 190.65....172.82...155.0...137.17....119.34.... 101.51...83.68... 65.86...48.03...30.20... and behold 12.375 .. ..This system takes away all the guess work and reduces the amount of work in scaling around a roof .. especially when you are working on hips that are 38' long and are " Bastard Hips " with one pitch one one side being a 10.72/12 and the other side being a 14.625/12 and you have a 19.2 " layout .. This system also works on the simplest homes .. I guess I am hijacking this comment page .. I like to teach .. I stress ..learn basic math .. the more the better and my last recommendation Not only learn to transfer fractions into decimals .. learn to translate Fractions into a simpler language .. If you are lifting off a undulating slab for instance and the walls are basically in the " Say " 143" range .. Instead of listing the studs individually as 143 -3/16 .. 143 -1/2 " 143 -3/4 " .. Toss away the 143 .. relegate it to memory .. Now change the fractions to simple numbers of 15 .. 143 -3/16 .. becomes " 3 " ... 143-1/2 " becomes "8" .. 143 -3/4 becomes "12" .. So if a number is giving to you from atop a roof .. You hear " 226-2 " you know it's 226 -1/8 .. and when people write hurriedly .. and I can't tell you how many times I saw 3/16 , 3/8 and 3/4 written that you couldn't decipher .. They are 3,, 6 and 12 ... I live by these motto's " Efficiency is intelligent laziness " and Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication " ... I have nearly 40 years of carpentry experience .. I have seen it all seemingly , I have dangled on a roof rolling felt , smashed my thumb , carried trainloads of lumber and wallowed in mud , ice .. But I never stopped thinking .. I know architects by name now , have built homes that have graced the front covers of magazines , offered professorships in other states , asked to write books .. Built for billionaires and helped friends out on a set of steps to their double-wide .. My greatest love is finding something after all theses years and seeing someone else improve upon them .. I was young once and told I could never learn .. That drives me ..
ivoryalpha8@gmail .com .. .. Be glad to help .. I make it so complicated to understand in my lengthy comment section .. Beforehand .. Get a basic understanding of math , open your mind and don't be scared by it .. Trigonometry is basically just ratios ... Like .. For every apple I get , you get 3 apples .. I get 12 apples .. how many will you get ?? .. The confusion begins when I say for every apple I get you get 1.414 apples . I got 23.375 apples .. how many will you get ?? The procedure is the same .. You get 33.05 apples !! ... How did you figure that ?? Think about it .. You multiplied 1.414 x 23.375 ... Bingo .. That's a solution to a ratio ... I recommend anyone that leans on a Construction Master calculator.. still use it .. but learn why the calculator came to that answer ..Learn the math .. It will always walk you home and you can be so absolutely sure in your conclusion
Something I’ve learnt too, if the math is correct and you’ve worked out the diminishing rafter length correctly they all fall on Centre perfectly when the hip is strung straight, works the same on valleys too.
Buenos Noches Maestros Los Felicito excelente trabajo. Un favor podrian explicar como untutorial de como rayan y cortan los hip de Las esquinas de la casa. De antemano mis agradecimiento...
Spaced out with the same measurement of the joist, standard 400mm spacing,just squared off the common rafter as shown in the video 400 800 1200 1600 2metres and so on...
Bob Builder You can't use Paslode nails if it's NHBC, they need to be minimum of 3.35mm thick and Paslode are less. Even on roof battens they won't allow it for roofers but some inspectors let it go. Plus it's much better nailing a roof by hand with 3" & 4" wires. It's a shit job if a Paslode is used.
I don't know. Looks like just at the end of the video the hips are just about to fail due to lack of bearing . Despite the 4x4 inner bearing. What inspection would pass the dead load on the joists is beyond me.
Do they do nail guns for 4 inch nails? This is proper carpentry mate, not popping on architraves! Even US building codes specify hand nailing 3 and 4 inchers, and ringshanks.
@@thetessellater9163 lmao, we use screws in Germany. Way faster and easier. Renewing parts is also a breeze then. Our nailguns go up to about 60mm and we use 140mm screws.
Common difference and a tail pattern. If it’s square and you cut the three commons correctly, should be able to cut em all at once. Get some guns and a compressor. Can’t make money doin it that way.
Albert Backauskas he’s in day rate I bet. Here in U.K. a lot are. Also he’s putting in 4inch nails at 4/4.5mm diameter most guns we get over here are 90-3.2mm diameter while they are ok if you want to make the step up to a gun that fires 100x4mm your talking big money over here and big money to buy the nails too.
nice job but every roof should be made so it can be converted to an attic house or apartment blocks we pay enough money for our houses should always have that option.... just from from my own carpentry point of view. good video.
You should have been able to cut your hips and Jack rafters in one go with framing square or construction master plus youre wasting your time with a makita side winder.get yourself a Worm drive unless you're left handed.the whole operation is a bit amateurish
You guys never heard of prefabricated roof trusses. We can build two house in a week (roofing). Compared to your 1 I love wood working. But... Seriously.... Way faster then this old school method. One section takes you what 2 to maybe 4 hours a day... We erect it in 1 day. And the rest is money. Nice job tho... Horrible video. If it was suppose to be instructional I learned you like Makita saws lol
Trusses are good for homes that are built like crap . They make terrible vaults , You can see every truss after it's been shingled on a sunny day .. They make for terrible ceilings .. They are best used on cheap homes .. The multi-million dollar homes I build can't be done with efficiently with trusses .. Far to much detail
That guy has more skill in his pinky than you do in your whole truss house building body. Take your 2x4 junk trusses, along with the rest of your carpenter hack friends, and keep building your junk truss wall panel P.O.S. houses for the money. You’re a disgrace to our trade.
I wonder where this video was filmed......360 construction. Nothing better than learning hands on on the job! (kinesthetic)
That hip blade is a monster
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Nice job
Good to see hammer and nails too
👍good Job
Que lindo trabajo ✌️
Nice job Malcom. Was Barry sick that day😜. The dude with you wasn't much help😂
Yoube
I was on sabbatical
Please I'm from Nigeria and I am 21 years old, I have 4 years experience of roofing and furniture works I'm pleading I want to apply for a job in your country south Africa please I need help please
Whatever happened to the trusty roofing square, no need for a tape measure when using a square
thinking the same thing, was disappointed. Lost art, but so much easier
Michael Eldridge In theory yes if your building is dead square and plates level. I'm a chippy with 27 years experience and I always take the direct measurement of the hips as there are a lot of crap Brickies in the UK who can't build square. Everything else I cut on the floor using the square. They could cut the jacks without measuring but they aren't using a traditional roofing square. No need for the poleplate on top of the joists either. The wall plate is sufficient. I guess they aren't proper roofing carpenters.
That method might work on the simplest of homes .. but when you get into the crazy complex homes today .. The error of stepping off or scaling is inaccurate .. I come from Old School carpentry .. and realized when I hit the Big Complex homes .. The error factor was just too much
tchornomud
The roofing square is not trusty, and only square on square stuff.
Typical framing ... kinda old-school .. I see 3 rafters "King Rafters " that are a waste to install .. All they are used for in old school is to establish the ridge .. .. Cheek cut the hips instead of a wedged ducktailed hip . 2 hips can establish the ridge as well if not better than 3 Kings and 2 hips .. Then you gotta deal with the kings in straightening when sheathing the roof and interference with joist .. Then when I see the 100' tape to the heel .. That is a heel sweep and when they match that is not actually the hip rafter length , but two points that come into agreeance or if the roof is out of square .. A reference point for individual length to be transferred to the hip .. Now many moons ago , I too used to reference a king or the straightest layout rafter , hook a tape and lay out unto the rafter and then measure to Heel Sweep.. have someone hold the tape on every individual hip jack rafter sweep and list them .. Or the other system of Common Length Difference and walk off the numbers according to the tables or a nifty Construction Master .. The problem with CLD is it only works in a perfect world and many times ends up fishing out the hip jacks and sliding off layout ..Thus customized sheathing cuts or scabs !! .. .. I estimate this is a 6/12 roof .. . I have developed a way besides eliminating King Rafters .. That guarantees supreme accuracy regardless of conditions .. That doesn't require a ton of bracing to straighten , a ton of scaffolding . someone measuring each one individually nor following a Construction Master for CLD .. No marking the hips .. Just cut and install .. But center string the hip and as soon as the hip is straight at that point .. Nail it .. and it will be a perfect layout be it 16" -13.71" -19.2" or 24" and takes 20 times less effort and a 100 times more accurate and 20 times less work .. Kinda complex at first but simple once learned and I have freaked out other carpenters that said " It couldn't be done " .. Here goes how it works .. The CLD on a 6/12 hip jack rafter = 17.88 @ 16 o.c. .. So there is the number of inquiry is at 17.888" Heel sweep the longest rafter and transfer it to the top of a Heel Plumb Cut Line.. say it come out the longest hip jack rafter is 226-5/16"... " Record !!" .. Heel Sweep the shortest hip jack rafter and transfer it to the top of a Heel Plumb Cut Line and say it comes out to 12-3/8" ... Now subtract 12-3/8 from 226-5/16= 213-15/16" .. I personally transfer all my fractions to decimals " ... Now you have 213.9375 " ... Now divide 213.9375 by 17,88" The Common Length Difference " = 11.959.. .. Now round to 12 .. There will be 12 Hip Jack Rafters.bays or 13 Rafters . Take 213.9375 and divide by 12 = 17.828 " .. That is your CLD .. and in going back to your longest hip jack rafter or 226.3125 begin to subtract 17.828 as a constant .. Your rafters will list as and return to 12.375" or 12-3/8 " 226.3125..... 208.48.... 190.65....172.82...155.0...137.17....119.34.... 101.51...83.68... 65.86...48.03...30.20... and behold 12.375 .. ..This system takes away all the guess work and reduces the amount of work in scaling around a roof .. especially when you are working on hips that are 38' long and are " Bastard Hips " with one pitch one one side being a 10.72/12 and the other side being a 14.625/12 and you have a 19.2 " layout .. This system also works on the simplest homes .. I guess I am hijacking this comment page .. I like to teach .. I stress ..learn basic math .. the more the better and my last recommendation Not only learn to transfer fractions into decimals .. learn to translate Fractions into a simpler language .. If you are lifting off a undulating slab for instance and the walls are basically in the " Say " 143" range .. Instead of listing the studs individually as 143 -3/16 .. 143 -1/2 " 143 -3/4 " .. Toss away the 143 .. relegate it to memory .. Now change the fractions to simple numbers of 15 .. 143 -3/16 .. becomes " 3 " ... 143-1/2 " becomes "8" .. 143 -3/4 becomes "12" .. So if a number is giving to you from atop a roof .. You hear " 226-2 " you know it's 226 -1/8 .. and when people write hurriedly .. and I can't tell you how many times I saw 3/16 , 3/8 and 3/4 written that you couldn't decipher .. They are 3,, 6 and 12 ... I live by these motto's " Efficiency is intelligent laziness " and Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication " ... I have nearly 40 years of carpentry experience .. I have seen it all seemingly , I have dangled on a roof rolling felt , smashed my thumb , carried trainloads of lumber and wallowed in mud , ice .. But I never stopped thinking .. I know architects by name now , have built homes that have graced the front covers of magazines , offered professorships in other states , asked to write books .. Built for billionaires and helped friends out on a set of steps to their double-wide .. My greatest love is finding something after all theses years and seeing someone else improve upon them .. I was young once and told I could never learn .. That drives me ..
Hey Ivory can you tell me how to use ur calculations, email me, I like learning. Thanks
Ruben
ivoryalpha8@gmail .com .. .. Be glad to help .. I make it so complicated to understand in my lengthy comment section .. Beforehand .. Get a basic understanding of math , open your mind and don't be scared by it .. Trigonometry is basically just ratios ... Like .. For every apple I get , you get 3 apples .. I get 12 apples .. how many will you get ?? .. The confusion begins when I say for every apple I get you get 1.414 apples . I got 23.375 apples .. how many will you get ?? The procedure is the same .. You get 33.05 apples !! ... How did you figure that ?? Think about it .. You multiplied 1.414 x 23.375 ... Bingo .. That's a solution to a ratio ... I recommend anyone that leans on a Construction Master calculator.. still use it .. but learn why the calculator came to that answer ..Learn the math .. It will always walk you home and you can be so absolutely sure in your conclusion
Something I’ve learnt too, if the math is correct and you’ve worked out the diminishing rafter length correctly they all fall on Centre perfectly when the hip is strung straight, works the same on valleys too.
Nail that rafter quit the bullshit
IVORY123100 fuck me get a life or a girl friend
Buenos Noches Maestros
Los Felicito excelente trabajo. Un favor podrian explicar como untutorial de como rayan y cortan los hip de Las esquinas de la casa. De antemano mis agradecimiento...
Красивая работа
Nice job fella 👍
Still confused on how to calculate each jack rafter lengths.
Any tips?
Using common difference
Spaced out with the same measurement of the joist, standard 400mm spacing,just squared off the common rafter as shown in the video
400 800 1200 1600 2metres and so on...
nice video! 🙂👍
Nice job!
what a good job !!!
Lovely job lads , you not like using nail guns ?
Bob Builder
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Bob Builder You can't use Paslode nails if it's NHBC, they need to be minimum of 3.35mm thick and Paslode are less. Even on roof battens they won't allow it for roofers but some inspectors let it go. Plus it's much better nailing a roof by hand with 3" & 4" wires. It's a shit job if a Paslode is used.
@@BillyMustang101 totally agree! Paslode is lazy. I use paslode on collars only
I don't know. Looks like just at the end of the video the hips are just about to fail due to lack of bearing . Despite the 4x4 inner bearing. What inspection would pass the dead load on the joists is beyond me.
No you dont know, ever heard of span and spacing, ffs.
construccion wordk #1
buen trabajo
Gabriel Gonzales .
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How do you cut the hip rafter using the saw. Thanks
0:45 and already asking why measuring on site and not calculating according to a drawing??? Same for jack rafters. Easy calculations boys.
when did the footage take? The nail gun hadn't been invented yet?
Do they do nail guns for 4 inch nails?
This is proper carpentry mate, not popping on architraves!
Even US building codes specify hand nailing 3 and 4 inchers, and ringshanks.
@@thetessellater9163 lmao, we use screws in Germany. Way faster and easier. Renewing parts is also a breeze then. Our nailguns go up to about 60mm and we use 140mm screws.
Common difference and a tail pattern. If it’s square and you cut the three commons correctly, should be able to cut em all at once. Get some guns and a compressor. Can’t make money doin it that way.
Albert Backauskas he’s in day rate I bet. Here in U.K. a lot are. Also he’s putting in 4inch nails at 4/4.5mm diameter most guns we get over here are 90-3.2mm diameter while they are ok if you want to make the step up to a gun that fires 100x4mm your talking big money over here and big money to buy the nails too.
u use Kerala carpenter metered that so simple
nice job but every roof should be made so it can be converted to an attic house or apartment blocks we pay enough money for our houses should always have that option.... just from from my own carpentry point of view. good video.
Me and are animal clap roofs on like this daily
so you don't have the balls to make the calculation for rafter length and start cutting?
if your building is square that works. Things dont tend to be millimeter square in building
Y Las pistolas
As soon as you pull out a tape to measure the hip rafter you become a hack.
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No instructions or information etc?
Poor video if it's supposed to inform people about how to go about carrying out a similar task? IMO anyway...
Hips are too short haha
Makita circular saw!!!not on my site mate, real tradesmen use Ryobi power tools.
Prawnchowmein hahaha
yeah real shit ones
Prawnchowmein Ryobi is the cheapest junk in the store. You'd be laughed off the job site if you showed up with a Ryobi.
Wicked Coolname needs flexvolt
Cowboys use ryobi. Shittest tools on the market.
You should have been able to cut your hips and Jack rafters in one go with framing square or construction master plus youre wasting your time with a makita side winder.get yourself a Worm drive unless you're left handed.the whole operation is a bit amateurish
Easy to sit back and talk shit, youve never been on a big job
Crap
Not very informative.
You guys never heard of prefabricated roof trusses. We can build two house in a week (roofing). Compared to your 1 I love wood working. But... Seriously.... Way faster then this old school method. One section takes you what 2 to maybe 4 hours a day... We erect it in 1 day. And the rest is money. Nice job tho... Horrible video. If it was suppose to be instructional I learned you like Makita saws lol
Trusses are good for homes that are built like crap . They make terrible vaults , You can see every truss after it's been shingled on a sunny day .. They make for terrible ceilings .. They are best used on cheap homes .. The multi-million dollar homes I build can't be done with efficiently with trusses .. Far to much detail
no "with", just efficiently .. I've built multi-million dollar homes with trusses?... I admire the attention to detail but money is money.
That guy has more skill in his pinky than you do in your whole truss house building body. Take your 2x4 junk trusses, along with the rest of your carpenter hack friends, and keep building your junk truss wall panel P.O.S. houses for the money. You’re a disgrace to our trade.