TIKTOK TATTOO RED FLAGS | Tattoo Critiques | Pony Lawson
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Hes got 5 star general stars not nautical.
The ‘man’ red flag was not that serious everyone needs to relax 💀 they’re probably the same people who call other people sensitive 🙃
The reason time pieces are a red flag is because it's usually a prison tattoo. Same thing for brick walls, calenders, interstate signs, area codes, "51/50", and "13 1/2".
About what the blue haired girl said: I believe she meant, the artist doesn't tattoo on darker skin tones. About getting tattooed by men, depending on the area if you don't know the artist, some women get scared. Though my usual artist is a man, I get it.
Lol@ “ I leave my hand there so they don’t move” 😂
I can understand why some women don't want a male tattoo artist. It requires a lot of physical contact and sometimes nudity, so it can be very uncomfortable, no matter how sweet or professional he is. But I wouldn't call it a red flag, more like a personal preference or boundary.
I agree, a woman might be uncomfortable with it based on circumstances of the tattoo or even just the client as a person and their experiences, but that shouldn’t play into the tattoo artists reputation or be a “red flag”
Ok but she said at the beginning that the Red flags where only based off what makes her feel icky. Meaning just random things that would make her shy away from a tattoo artist.
I have seen some dudes say the most nastiest shit about their clients who are women. Like it’s disturbing.. I saw one video about how he would try to hook up with his clients and just being a mega huge creep. I’m so thankful none of mine have been like that but I do feel much more comfortable with women.
@@BubbleBunnyy right!!! I still find it so strange that men get so confused why a woman wouldn’t want to use a man for things, it’s because there are so many creeps out there and the really funny thing is that the creeps don’t even think they are creeps, and the ones that aren’t necessarily creeps themselves don’t call the creeps out on their behavior, so it never gets any better.
its a preference not a red flag.
@ 10:03 -“only white skin portfolio”; being a black man living in China I’ve been turned away by tattoo artists because they had no experience doing black skin. Apparently, the skins of different races ink differently. On the flip side, I’ve had tattoo artists be so hyped about doing tattoos for me because I helped diversify their portfolio. So in my experience, it’s not a ‘race’ thing, but more a matter of tattooing experience.
Exactly what I thought about it. I rather have someone confident in their skill or at least be upfront of their lack of skill.
Because they paint your skin in a way it stays forever. You deserve to find someone that can do the job without ruining it for you.
And if you live somewhere where your skin color is rare, you will have a harder time finding artists experienced with it.
It shouldn't be a red flag / consider going there specifically about pale skin, but one skin tone in general. Because I have pale skin and uf the artist has only inked dark skin, I should probably consider not going there or be prepared for someone not experienced with my skin type
That's exactly what it is. It's not a race thing because ink does react differently to different levels of melanin. A good tattooer can and has tattooed people of all skin colors, but the ink settles differently.
@@thorstenschons7206 Eh... not really. An experienced artist that has only inked darker skin would not find it difficult at all to ink pale skin, unless you have other skin irregularities like tough skin, skin tags, wrinkles, etc.
Darker skin is much more difficult to ink because you don't have access to nearly as many gradients of contrast where the ink can show natural shadowing/blending, the undertone of your brown/black skin (orange-ish, yellow-ish, purple-ish) can neutralize the ink color in various ways, and all colors will show up muddy or muted anyway due to being under the melanin of the skin. And there is so much more.
It's more or less like going from drawing with black graphite on dark gray paper to drawing on white paper. They wouldn't have any issue with it, despite not having any experience with your pale skin.
@@felix-ve8jk A budy had issues with some skin tones scaring going keloid...
@@jeffrentsch4318 ?
my tattoo artist picked her phone up with gloves to change music, then said "ha you thought i was gonna be unhygenic" whipped off the gloves to a second pair of gloves underneath in a dramatic reveal and after a pause said "nah thats also not hygenic enough but it was funny" and washed her hands and put new gloves on and i was bamboozled for the whole 20 seconds of this experience
😂😂😂”don’t worry I don’t cross-contaminate…I just contaminate.”😂😂😂ded
I waited 15 years for the right tattoo artist for my Nessie. I had a picture in an old book but I wanted specific changes. I had other tattoos done by other artists. One day I noticed a new tattoo artist had come to town. Went in there to get a crow. He was so kind and the tattoo came out great. I knew I had found my guy. I walked in with the book and he immediately understood everything I wanted done. He was like a kid in a candystore because apparently mythical creatures are some of his favorites to do. My Nessie looks amazing and exactly as I pictured it in my mind for 15 years before having it done. I now go back every other month for other animal tattoos. We're currently in the process of making a leg sleeve. Going back this Thursday for a lynx.
What is the name of the artist? Does he has instagram? And really wholesome story! 😍
I am a nurse with tattoos and I really loved when you talked about the importance of maintain a proper clean and sterile zone. It's something that I never heard being talked about "in the tattoo world" and it is a REALLY important thing to take into account. Thank you! 👌☺
I beg to differ. My first tattoo was done in 93 and my artist was part of a revolution in cleanliness and better ink. He wasn't THE guy, but better shops were already becoming a thing and with the gaining popularity of piercings also at that time, more so. Trashy shops will always exist, but the "tattoo world" has been on that autoclave/sterile tools and materials thing for a long time now.
@@Neenerella333 Yeah, every tattoo shop I've been in has majorly emphasized cleanliness. One of the first pieces of tattoo advice I got, was to look at the shop's bathroom, and if it wasn't very clean, run.
This is an interesting comment, because unless you’re getting a stick and poke in your bestie’s bedroom, you should see all the evidence of cleanliness that you would also observe in a hospital setting. if anything, the tattoo artist’s shop is more transparently clean: I’ve never been to a doctor’s office where I see the exam table and the countertops cleaned while I watch. I’m just told to climb up on that butcher block paper and have some faith 😂
I think what the woman meant about the "only white skin portfolio" is that some artists will only know how to do/only show off works done on white clients, because then you can't tell if they know how to work well on darker skin. so basically if you're any shade other than pale white, you have no idea if the artist might not know how to get the ink to show up properly on your tattoo, or not know how to tell if your skin is irritated, or anything like that. it's kinda like how a lot of medical textbooks only show what a certain skin issue or wound looks like on white skin. a lot of things show up differently or hardly show up on dark skin, and then the medical professionals who were trained with those books don't know what to look for on a POC
I assumed that's what she meant as well, but that's a little weird when she has light skin herself. You'd think that would only be something you'd really care about if you yourself had dark skin and needed to be sure the artist could handle that. I don't know much on this topic, so maybe I'm talking out my ass on that one and it matters across the board for some reason. But it comes off to me as performative for a light-skinned woman to be complaining about that.
That was exactly where my mind went.
I feel like it's similar to the curly-hair struggle, where many hair salons don't have operators that know how to work with coily/curly/kinky hair, so they just turn out those types of clients.
Some artists have little to no experience working on darker toned canvases. The usual approach taken on lighter toned canvases to the darker ones either look strange, or (more likely) don't read very well at all. It's important to get that practice in WELL before that potential first dark-skinned client comes in. Not saying you HAVE to learn, but learning would only benefit you. Plus, why not? If nothing else, why say no to 🤑🤑🤑??? Also, I believe a well done tattoo on darker skin POPS nicely. 🤤
P.S. I feel it's obvious, but not everyone thinks like me: *a-her-huh-hem* Black people (derived from the African continent) are not the only dark-skinned folks (Examples: indiginous Americans [North, South, and Central], Roma, Indian, South Chinese, Pacific Islanders, Aboriginals, most Middle Eastern countries, and quite a few others). By not learning to work on varying skin tones and intensities, you limit yourself and your potential clientel, and thus your DOLLARS.
@@bluesonicstreak7317 not really. it should be normal by now for white people to notice these things and its a legitimate red flag. just because it wont affect her directly doesnt mean it wouldnt affect her friends or that she should exclude it from the list because some of her viewers are likely to be poc. its just sus behavior from the artist in the first place. not someone i'd care to go to.
@@bluesonicstreak7317t can help when you have friends that arent your skin color when it comes to recommendations. Its okay to want inclusivity outside of yourself lol
@@bluesonicstreak7317 Why is it weird for a human being to try to bring more inclusivity into the art of tattooing and bring awareness to something that really should be common knowledge? Doesn't matter what colour her skin is. She's doing good just by bringing attention to this.
I understand being more comfortable around women piercers and tattoo artists if you’re a woman but you can’t call the majority of the tattoo industry a red flag just because of their gender identity 😭
Lol she just excluded 75% of tattoo artists in the world.
Omg it’s not that serious lmao
@@stephanie.420 dude you're the one defending it multiple times in the comments
@@stephanie.420 you cant say its not serious
I have the reverse problem. I'm uncomfortable with women being that physically close to me (especially women I don't know personally) because I've been violated and abused by women in the past. However, I would never call being a woman a red flag in any circumstance. I simply have a personal issue, and that's as far as it goes.
"You're a red flag, Tiffany."
That line was on point
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@@LezbeOswald Yes
Based
The other red flags entering the chat 😂
😂😂😂
I’ve always been a big believer of meeting the artist before having the tattoo done. That way I know if I vibe with them or not. I’ve never felt uncomfortable going to a male artist but have met with one or two who made me feel a little uncomfortable and so went to another studio/artist. I wouldn’t write off all male artists just bc of one bad apple in the bunch. The ones I’ve been to have been fantastic and very nice.
Just found Pony and I really have to say, I love how NONJUDGEMENTAL you are as an artist! You're very obviously a professional and respect the game and others in it. Love seeing such maturity in art.
"blackout: what are you trying to hide" sometimes people change their minds. sometimes people learn from their mistakes. sometimes its easier to go full-coverage than trying to make a cover-up design work. who cares if someone's covering up hate they dont stand by anymore. let people improve
It's because the whole having to blackout or choosing to blackout is just as dumb as whatever they might be covering.
Sometimes they just want a fully blacked out arm or whatever, it doesn't have to have anything under it at all. Making assumptions about people's tattoos is still going strong it seems.
@@Cbyneorneexactly . i think blackouts are sick as fuck and i plan on getting one just to have it ! smh
I personally think blackout looks dumb no artistic flair at all got all the ink from a past life removed instead of covering up because i know what's there even if you can't see it and it was also all extended to cover my face so i think removal is generally the best option
@@HunterGargoyleI have no tattoos (yet) but I think blackouts look cool as hell, idk if I’d get one myself (depending on how getting a tattoo feels, time, and money) but I can 100% see why someone would get a blackout tattoo even if they’re not doing a cover-up
What that one person meant about only having white skin on your portfolio is when a tattooer doesn’t have any work on clients with dark skin. I’ve heard of some tattooers that even straight up refuse to tattoo people with dark skin.
The reason for that is the kind of work you do and nothing else, when tattooing dark skin you need to leave alot of open skin (meaning you use the skin as your lightest shade) and some artists don't like that, I know some guys that have really "closed " work (meaning they shade 95% of the tattoo) and it's really hard for them to get away from that. If you do that on dark skin the client will end up with a dark blob only recognizable a couple feet away, so in the end they do it for the good of the client, not because they're mean,also dark skinned costumers sometimes think they'll have the same result as someone with pale white skin, and that's IMPOSSIBLE ,sometimes it also becomes really hard explaining that without sounding you know what, so I can see why some just straight up refuse to do it
@@inb4230 But my guy, it's 2023. The only reason a tattoo artist refuses dark skin is racism /s
@@inb4230 that’s truly the longest cop out i’ve ever read. if a tattooer isn’t skilled enough to work on non-white skin they should just be honest and say that. hiding behind style and preference in 2023? give me a break
@@triedxtrue read 3 of your comments, I honestly don't know the one that makes me gag the most.
We've got ourselves a "equality " nazi, aka a fmnzi. There's never been more specialised artists as now, you don't know what the fk your talking about, stick to crashing political events naked miss, leave the tattoo talk for the artists or at least for the people with a clue.
Surprised you didn't throw "GaSlIgHtInG " and "mansplaining" in your comments 😂😂
@@inb4230 nah just say you're not talented enough to tattoo dark skin
im black, and finding an artist that will tattoo brown skin is hard sometimes. that's what is meant by an artist only tattooing white skin, they either won't show their work on brown skin or they just won't tattoo brown skin. red flag!
Them not willing to tattoo dark skin isn't so much a red flag as take it as they don't think they have the skill for it and saving you time and money
@@michaelkeha um, that is a red flag for me
@@maybedean That's not what red flag means in this context. The not showing their work on dark skin is a red flag if they are still willing to do so, but if they flat out refuse to do a tattoo on darker skin, that is not a red flag, that is just them saying telling you they don't have the skill to do so. Red flag implies you get the feeling that you are about to make a mistake and should go somewhere else, them refusing to tattoo you implies that you have no choice and HAVE to go somewhere else so it's not a flag at all, it's just a bust.
Edit: If the artist refusing to tattoo someone with darker skin has a shaved head though, THAT's a red flag lol, just for a different reason entirely.
@@foxxinrox The fact that they've never bothered to learn how to do this is a red flag. If they say they don't have the skill, whatever, thanks for the warning. But if they just say they won't do it, or again if they've never bothered to learn how then I'm calling red flag. Just because it's not a flag that matters to someone else doesn't mean it's objectively not a flag.
@@addaptinginthedark I can say from the town in which I live, I've only ever had two canvases that were darker skin. Sometimes there's just no one walking into the shop to get that kind of experience from. You either have it or you don't. If you have no idea how to tattoo darker skin, you can seriously f them up later in life.
The timepiece thing makes me so sad. I wrote a story as a child that centered around a pocket watch that could teleport it's holder across time and always wanted to get the pocket watch tattooed from the moment I learned what tattoos were. I still want the tattoo but I won't get it; my soul is weak because I care too much about what other people might think of me. I hope one day to be comfortable enough with myself to get it.
I think its different if the image has a personal meaning to you. You arent just getting a time piece because its a trend, youre getting it because it means something important to you
@@xrosethegreat9048 I completely agree with you, but a normal stranger sizing me up wouldn't know that and would just see a cringey clock. Until I can get over this ridiculous fear of people making incorrect assumptions about me, I sure as hell can't be getting tattoos yet!
@@eleiaeliasidentitycrisisAs a "normal" stranger that likes tattoos, but has no idea about tattoo trends: I would think your tattoo is cute. Even the one shown in the video looked great, it felt so weird to me that this shows "a lack of creativity" and would be considered a red flag.
With the rose motiv especially, it reminds me of vanitas still lives, which always feature clocks and flowers (usually roses), even skulls and candles. All of which seem like good additions to that piece? I don't know, if I saw someone with the tattoo shown in the video, I'd just think "wow, cool tattoo" lol
if it means something to you, then by all means get it. don't let people shame you into "you're just bandwagon and trying to be cool" i had an ex who recieved a pocketwatch from his grandpa, so obviously why wouldn't he get a tat of that pocketwatch.
fwiw, I love tattoos and this is the first time I've ever heard of timepieces being common, let alone trendy! Get your awesome tattoo!
I drew my own design, and the red flag to me was a super rude tattoo artist who said she would only do it if we made it a big full colour back piece. She wanted to make more money since i didn't commission her to draw it. I had made three copies (this was almost 20 years ago) of slightly different sizes, for the side of my calf, which i knew would warp least over time. Luckily there was a guy there, i think a newer artist because he didn't have a big portfolio, who was like "oh, yeah, that's easy, I'll do it. I think that size would look best" (the middle one, about the size of an orange). He was super nice, made the stencil, got the thing done in about an hour, and didn't charge me a crazy amount. I think he understood it was my first tattoo and i was kinda poor. The first artist was so rude it almost ruined tattoos for me, and I'd wanted one since i was 5. I understand that it's how tattooists make a living, and artists like creating art, but I'm an artist too, i just can't reach certain places. I'm cool with "that just won't work as a tattoo" advice, that wasn't the case here.
I have heard a lot of horror stories from young girls going to male tattoo artists. Of course there are very respectable male tattoo artists, my colleges for example, but i understand if someone had a bad experience in the past and doesnt want to take any chances, because some really are disgusting and sadly, it can be very hard to tell before the appointment.
I had this one experience with a person representing half of the human population that I didn't check out thoroughly beforehand. Went bad.
Ergo half of humans are untrustworthy.
Perfect.
(I'm not saying the YOU'RE saying this, but this is what I hear when people make these leaps. Usually it sounds like all women are evil. This is kinda new to hear.)
I feel the same way about blacks. Most of them are great people, but I've had some bad experiences and I don't want to take any chances.
@@jamesflames6987 congrats James, your "super edgy" racist comment has only proven this person's point that some men are disgusting
I've had terrible experiences with abusive as fuck women but if I said what you just said I'd be called a sexist pig
@@michaelkeha if you have been abused by a female tattoo artist and then dont feel comfortable around female tattooartists, thats completely valid. Male survivors need to be respected and listened to as well. That is not the issue at discussion though. Yes she put it very bluntly, but woman, or percieved as that, have to be on constant alert because of a system and a society that made men think they were entiteled to their bodies. An issue that needs to be talked about and changed. Of course not to say that there arent very evil woman. Woman can be monsters, they are human beings. So your expieriences are fully valid, i just dont like how these are used to discredit womans experiences in many cases.
Tiffany’s #4 “only white skin” means when the artist’s entire portfolio consists of tattoos on very pale white skin. It can be a red flag that that don’t know how to adjust color for darker skin tones.
Or they’re in a white as rice area. Until about 20 years ago, it was unusual to have a non-white classmate.
White as rice. It happens
@@icarusbinns3156 maybe where you live, but not in major cities where most tattoo shops are located.
@@jax422 Lakewood is still pretty white! Golden’s a little more mixed, as is (freaking) Boulder. Denver is a lot more mixed, but still rather white
@@icarusbinns3156 Have you ever traveled outside of Colorado? The rest of the country isn’t like that.
@@jax422 traveled, yes. Ling enough to find an artist and get the tattoo?
Sadly, no. I was in Minnesota for two years. Rural MN. As in… I rode a horse to get to work
I can get the tribal tattoos one only a little bit. Some people actually part of those cultures (Māori, Samoan, etc) and those tattoos can be quite important. The only scenario where I get the ick would be, for example, when someone with no Māori ancestry gets a Tāmoko
This. I adore the idea of the tamoko, specifically Moko kauai, because I'm a woman, and I would do it in a heartbeat. But it's culturally relevant and I'm not Maori.
Getting a tribal or Polynesian pattern design is one thing, but a tamoko has real weight and significance. It's something that needs to be earned.
So I can just admire it.
I want to move to New Zealand and I'm even learning te reo maori (because why not?) but realistically, relocation is just too expensive.
As long as you are getting your moko by a traditional artist, who has designed it specifically for you after hearing about your whakapapa, then you should be okay. NEVER take in a predrawn work, and NEVER go to a non traditional artist. That’s when it goes from moko to a shitty appropriated tribal.
yeah, maori here. ive seen a few of these reels where they go on to use a photo of an actual pasifika tattoo. its. super annoying. like, do not get these cultural tattoos and art confused with meaningless white people swirls please. but also!! quite a lot of non maori get 'tribal' tattoos doen by maori artists. its not moko in that case, because theres no maori whakapapa, but kirituhi, a term that was specifically made for the practice of tattooing a non-maori as a maori artist. i dont think people appreciating our artists' work and our ancestors' legacy deserves to be called cringe. the only thing that cringe or a red flag is going to a non-polynesian artist to get a polynesian tattoo, and being the non-poly artist that gives one.
Facts like fr I’m full samoan n it pisses me off how ppl putting that on they bodies if they ain’t Pacific Islander n my ancestors worshipped on those mats 🗣️💯
@phantagirlable not ta Moko they don't.
My biggest red flag was when a tattoo "artist" told me that no one does original artwork tattoos anymore.
Back in the day, tattoo shops were illegal in the State I lived in at the time. So people worked clandestinely from home. I went to one place that still haunts my nightmares .
My Ex and I were going to get some work done before our wedding. We got a recommendation from a friend and went to look at the books the artist had of previous work ( this was pre internet). As soon as they opened the door I noticed a smell. It was like a veterinary hospital.
Then, I saw why. I thought it was a dog near the hall entrance. No! It was a potbelly pig! I was done. I got out so fast. For me barnyard animals are a red flag.
I have unfortunately heard a lot of creeper stories about tattoo artists, and how some shops turns a blind eye to certain "locker room" behaviour. But I agree that saying "all men" is a red flag is silly. Like yes, they can absolutely choose to not be tattooed by a man, and that is their choice and totally valid. But calling it a red flag is not it for me. A red flag in the same vein for me would be "the (male) tattoo artist want to book in really late in the day, so you know it will only be you and him alone in the shop" . and 2; have a lot of "sex appeal" on their IG page. so like, if it's a sternum piece it's not zoomed in, but got the whole lady in a tiny teeny thong, with her holding her hands over her nipples only. Or a back piece, but taken at an angle that showcases the person's butt. I mean, I am sure you have seen what I am talking about lol. Those artists give me the ick and I will never go to them or reccomend a woman go to them.
I have "accidentally" mainly been tattooed by women. 1st one was a man, 3rd tiny one was a man. and the 11 others was women. I just like neo-trad animals and mostly women seem to be focusing on that. (also they are usually very gentle and that is nice, because I am a wuzz)
same! I so far have only been tattooed by women for my 3 tattoos, but I also love that so far. I even reached out to an artist for a rough price estimate (I'm moving from US to Europe and asked if it was okay to ask on pricing since idk Europe's general rates) and turns out they're also a woman lol. But it's been nice since I felt immediately comfortable with the tattoo artists and because they did my two rib tattoos so I was fine if I had to show some side boob or whatever. They both gave me a sense of how it really should be for women *getting* tattooed and have shown good experiences thus far. I'll also now know if a guy is being heavy handed later lol
Unfortunately that's is part of tattoo culture, you know; military, tribal, vices, organized crime, ownership, tramp stamp, hooker art. It will take a good 100 years for all the old guys to finally stop giving the kid from yale crap about how he didn't go through shit in his fancy school with both parents and never went hungry, or whatever.
Yeah, the chick in the video totally could have worded it better like "(decently sized) shops with only men" cuz if you have 10+ artists and none of them are ladies, how bad is it that no girl wants to work there?
@@fueledbypaintwaterthat's actually a really good way of putting it
My complaint isn't so much a red flag as a complaint. My tattoo artist reeked of cigarette smoke and then half way through he took a break and came back smelling even worse. Smokers don't seem to realize just how nasty they smell to non smokers. All these years later and that still sticks in my head when remembering my tattoo experience. Having to sit there concentrating on being still and dealing with the pain is part of it but having to smell that right in your face for hours is effing terrible.
No trust me, we know, because non-smokers are always on our case about it.
Banter aside though, if you ask the artist to be considerate about that and they refuse, that's just as bad as a smelly client
@@SonOfMeme I actually find it worse for the artist to be smelly, in any form, whether that be from smoke or general uncleanliness. Sure, it's not acceptable for a client to be that way, but as somebody supposedly in a professional sphere? It's so much worse.
I'm not so upset by a smoker so long as they take the time to air out a bit before a session and they DO NOT go take a smoke partway through.
@@lo4tr idk if it’s a 10 hour long tattoo I understand why they’d want a few cigs in the middle. I don’t smoke and I hate cigarette smoke I think I’m allergic to it but I can get it when it’s a very long session
@@BubbleBunnyy I am allergic to smoke, so in a case where I'd be in for a long session, I'd make sure up front to ask for somebody that does not smoke. Then again, I suppose if you don't do your own due diligence, you don't really have the right to get mad at the smoker.
@@lo4tr idk I just am not confrontational and besides, who am I to ask someone to not smoke for 10 hours when they are doing me a service? And I did say I’m allergic, whenever my mom smokes in the car I feel o can’t breathe and I start getting an itchy runny nose.
I think when they said only white skin she meant theres no variety in skin colors so they only tattoo people with pail skin.
Or they just meant white skin.
Exactly
@@imanikeel8747 that's what I meant sorry if I wasn't clear enough
@@CICADA____ I got what you meant fam
Depends where you live, some places have very few people of colour so, it may have nothing to do with prejudice at all and more to do with demographics.
with the tribal tattoos, i think one of the big issues people have with them is that a lot of the people who get them aren’t apart of the tribes/cultures the tattoos represent, and have little to no knowledge about the significance of these symbols, and many care very little to learn, they only care that it looks cool. obviously that doesn’t go for everyone, but it seems to be a common thing
Most tribal tattoos you see or remember from the 80s or 90s is Western style tribal popularized by people like Leo Zulueta. It doesn't belong to an indigenous tribe like Maori or Filipino tribal does. It was popular because it looked tough, took up a lot of space, didn't require multiple sessions and was everywhere due to mass produced flash. A lot of it was cheesey and a byproduct of the time period, but some of it is still cool. Jared Leathers comes to mind for modern "Western" tribal tattooers, and ofc he now runs Leo's Spiral Tattoo.
Cry.
@@FoulUnderworldCreature Aint no one crying over your ignorance bestie.
I don't think that most people getting 'tribal ' tattoos are getting genuine tribal tattoos, the people who do genuine tribal tattoos, don't slap them on just anyone. The tribal tattoos that most people get are just an interpretive concept of tribal, with no real meaning behind them
Reminds me of all the white people getting Chinese character tattoos of yesteryear thinking it looks cool, often without even knowing the meaning of it, like the ol classic "chicken noodle soup."
It wouldn’t bother me what sex my artist was, as long as they are respectful, appropriate and highly talented in the style I want.
Either way, I would want a consultation first to talk about what I want and get their input. This also gives me time to see what they are like.
A former classmate had a wolf tattoo as his first tattoo. He was so proud of it and needed to show it off everywhere and all the time. Problem was that this thing looked like a husky plush toy.
the "only white skin portfolio" bit is probably about artists who cant/refuse to tattoo on dark skin
Don't get me wrong, I get why that is something you need to look for... I just don't get why it bothers her so much. People with darker skin need to find somebody whom can work with said skin. For her, having fairly pale skin, she should really only need to know how well the artist can work with her. I mean, if I was going to look for a tattoo artist, I wouldn't care at all what ranger of skin they can work with outside of whether or not mine was included.
@@lo4tr exactly. If an artist I go to doesn’t know how to tattoo on darker skin, that’s fine. It’s not a problem for me, I’m white. It’s not even like a racist thing most of the time either, tattooing on dark skin just is different from pale skin and not everyone has had the practice or been taught how to tattoo dark skin.
@@lo4tr to me, that is a huge red flag because it gets me wondering why they have never tattooed non-white skin before. I can't be the first person to ask them... why made them refuse in the past? What is making them refuse now? I have been to both experienced and non-experienced tattoo artists who said yes. What is making them say no?
@@nish663There's not red flag. People just want to make it a red flag these days but when it's opposite it's fine. Black artists can get away from not working on white skin claiming they felt uncomfortable.
@@kiki29073 no. It absolutely is a red flag. You may not agree, and that is up to you.... but if black artists denying white people was actually as prevalent as the other way around, white people would already have made a law banning it.
This kinda makes me want to get a cabbage tattoo in green! I actually think the cabbage roses are cute if you see them as cabbages ...
As for the men thing: I'm a woman, and I've definitely had some super creepy experiences with male tattooers (making comments on my body or women in general, insisting on me undressing more than really necessary, all the way to, let's say, suspicious touching during tattooing). For this reason I'll only get tattoos from men if I've found them through word of mouth, if I know them personally, if I've met them while getting tattooed by someone else in the same studio etc. And if I see a male tattoo artist whose work I like online, I do a bit of digging and ask around to see if anyone had had any bad experiences with them.
Also, just to clarify, no, not all men. We know. But enough that it makes sense to be cautious.
I haven’t had that experience, but I’ve only gone to female tattoo artists. I’d definitely be more hesitant to go to a male artist unless I had some good reviews from other people he’d tattooed. Even if they act appropriately, getting tattooed can feel vulnerable, especially if you have to remove clothing. I also (for some reason) feel like it’s easier for me to communicate my ideas to other women, but that’s a me thing.
If you ever get a cabbage tat, any chance there will be a small homage to the cabbage merchant from Avatar the Last Airbender?
Numbing cream is amazing. My wife has been getting tattooed for nearly 17 years and a few months ago got a cover up on the back of her neck. This was the first time she had ever used a numbing cream. It was the artists recommendation, and they applied it after initial line work was completed. She said it completely eliminated the pain. Would have been nice for those long sessions on my ribs and stomach when my adrenaline had long been exhausted. Artists who are anti numbing cream, why? I get not wanting the client to come in slathered up in an unknown product, but it's a service you can provide to get them to sit better, especially for those multi hour sessions where pain tolerance kinda falls out the window.
11:30 - First video of yours I've caught, and I've subscribed. And yeah, I think random sexism is a massive red flag, Tiffany. XD It's ok to express your personal preference and say that you're just not comfortable, but calling something a red flag and sharing it like this is talking about warnings *other people should heed*
Try not to take the "man" comment personally. I think some female clients get spooked by all of the stories that come out on social media about creepy tattoo artists and the sad fact is that 99.9% are male. So, in a female client's mind, the easiest way to avoid being stuck in that kind of scenario, especially when related to art you'll be stuck with forever, is to avoid male tattoo artists entirely. Please try not to read into this, I'm sure there's plenty of clients to go around that aren't as strict in their criteria ;)
I think the main contention here is the video is listing being a man as a red flag, rather than just a personal preference. To me, a 'red flag' is a serious disturbance that can translate across all parties. For instance, having an artist not taking care of their tools properly is a clear red flag because it denotes a lack of work ethic that could either directly mean you, as a client, might get hurt/sick or indirectly mean the artist doesn't take other aspects of their job serious enough. In a case like this, just saying men is conflating a subjective preference with an objectively bad circumstance.
I personally don't take offense to it, though I do understand why others might. To me, the most offensive thing is the use of 'red flag' in place of personal preference, which is what half of the video showcased in the first place, as it confuses the language we use. Like, earlier in the video where they're showing off specific tattoos and going, "sure, it's a red flag to have a wold because it shows you don't have imagination". That is in no way a red flag as it is something you don't personally like aesthetically.
I think I read in to it the same way Pony did, which was "what...?"
Just... don't go to a man? It's not like you're being forced to be tattooed by a male, you're allowed to choose a female. I'm all for people having a preference, that's THEIR choice. My GP is a female, but when it comes to urology stuff, I see a male doctor. It's not because I don't trust her or that I think she's not capable, it's just that changes the relationship for me (and I really like and trust her, and it'd be awkward for me). I certainly don't call her a red flag because she's a female.... That's just weird. Calling someone a red flag for being on the "wrong side" of what is essentially a coin flip is kinda red-flaggy to me.
The only women that say this unless they have been assaulted are these modern day feminist that hate all men.
But then again she also said having only white skin portfolio is a red flag... which is kind of odd, but if paired with the men comment just comes off as she's... how can I put it politely... very woke
I don’t want any man to touch me who DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHY A WOMAN might prefer a female artist. We live our lives on a swivel from the time we leave the house as girls. You can understand that. You are intelligent. Please stand with women. My daughters need men who stand with them.
Yea that last red flag about being a man is just bonkers, all of her red flags were geared towards skill and representation of the work, until that one, gender does not make a difference in creativity, or talent, instead i would look at the artists reviews and reputation, generally you will be able to tell if the artist is a creep or not during your research or consultation if your vigilant enough
blue hair people with those types of opinions are a definite red flag lol
Just straight out sexist, nothing else
1. Who hurt her?
2. She needs help
Speaking from experience, you absolutely can research an artist and not know they’re a creep. Please don’t blame victims for not being “vigilant enough.”
@Daphnis Winchester oh i definitely agree with you thats why i said generally can tell, thats why i guide my clients to come in in advance for a consultation so we can meet one another and make sure were going to get a long and work well together
I like how he skated past the all white skin tattoo thing like he didn’t know what she meant 😂
for real LOL. Like sir, THATS a red flag
@phantagirlable as if the population of black people isn't 48 percent in the states, LMAO. Also, I'm as white as casper
@@kaylawilliam701 black people acount for about 14.5% of the US population, what do you mean 48%?
@@handshoesandhorsegrenades1848are you joking? Have you seen them immigrants in NYC ?
@@joejohn524 you know statistics are publicly available right? I didn’t make up the numbers I used.
I'm glad I have a good relationship with my artist. I have 1 sleeve and working on another. I just ask her to design cool stuff for me in regards to something within a theme, and she does an amazing job. Out of 30+ tattoos, there was only 1 thing I asked to remove from a design, and she agreed that it looked better without it.
Hell Yea!! thanks for Defending the Westcoast Chicano Style. that style is timeless and has so much history!
I have a Payasa piece myself.
I’ve been tattooed mostly by women in my life, but it’s mostly based on artistry and people I’ve found via Instagram or through tattooed friends. I will say that I am a plus size person so there’s an inherent fear of ending up in a shop where people are judgmental and rude, but that’s not only on men. On the other side, it is a pretty male dominated career but I feel like I choose based on if their beliefs match my energy and their work is solid.
I love being a tattoo artist, work from 10am to 4pm, sit around in between jobs messing around like big kids. having to deal with minor frustrations with clients is the worst it ever gets so still one of the best "jobs" to have
There really are a lot of creepy dudes with tattoo machines out there that use tattooing as an excuse to touch you inappropriately. Not all of them, obv, but it can really make you feel a type of way when it happens to you.
The issue is saying Male Tattoo Artists are a red flag is just sexist, you can not feel comfortable about it and all that and not go to them but to have enough guts on camera to call a sex in general a red flag is sexist.
I love listening to you talk- im sure you hear it all the time, but you have a great voice. (I do enjoy the content as well) ❤
I actually know a lot of heavily tattooed attractive women that WONT get tattooed by men. They say some male tattoo artists get really creepy while tattooing. So they just prefer to stay away from guys unless they know them.
(Explained to my by an ex and some friends who all had the same stories of male tattoo artists trying to creep on them or straight up assaulting them during a tattoo)
The problem is labeling Male Artist = Red Flag and seeming to label it as the same level of problematic as people using supplies in unsanitary ways. Its shooting yourself in the foot and pushing out an implicit bias she has that likely exceeds beyond just tattooing. If a guy said "Female tattoo artists are a red flag" itd also be just as sexist
I think the biggest red flag for me, is when you are a regular to an artist and are almost besties, when they start pushing interest past either friendship or the client/artist relationship. I still have a good ways to go on both of my sleeves and I am still mildly uncomfortable being around my artist even though they have backed off for the most part.
I'm cool with my artist we sometimes game together and he always works with me on ideas
I hate when the artist insists on talking the whole time, that's one of my red flags. I want them to have complete focus on the work. My 2 main artists do not make small talk at all unless the machine is off, we both have headphones on the whole time.
What i always tell someone wanting a tattoo is get whatever you like and not what’s everyone else likes. After all the tat is for you not them. If you want a time piece or a tribal or a wolf go for it. Your money your skin your decision.
This. Can we let people get what they like without judgement? Who cares if it's trendy. If they like it, they like it. End of story. Respect their decision.
Right on, their choice their money.@@tho_she_be_but_litl
period
Tiktok really is a breeding ground for attention seeking clowns with terrible opinions 😂😂😂
Tiktok is where brain cells go to die...and your personal info given to China
So which “red flag tattoo” do you have?
@Betwixxt As if you jump in to defend the attention seeking clowns of tiktok by assuming I'd sink low enough to get a red flag tattoo 😅😅😅
@@betwixxt4211 you’re gonna listen to the they/them/xe/xir with blue hair? I have tribal ass antlers tyvm. Get a life dude
One thing regarding "artist know their worth", is something i think can be discussed. I never bargain and i always respect the price of an artist and their work. But in the past, some artists really took advantage of that. Either telling me during the appointment that they do tattoos way cheaper, that the design is from an illustrators book from 20 years ago, or that the design was created with AI. I still love the work and i am happy with the outcome, i just think some artists get a bit rockstar syndrome bc they have 20 k followers and now think they are the coolest person ever..
I can understand people moving if their doing it on purpose like I wanna watch, oh I'm getting restless .. Etc But cut the people some slack if they don't know their moving. I had a artist yell at me for moving when I didn't even know I was. I was just staring at a wall, letting him do his thing and he goes "Will you stop moving" very rude like and I went "I'm sorry didn't know" and he got more huffy about it. None the less I won't be going back to that person.
To be fair on the last girl; she might have major trust issues with guys because of a previous artist that left a really bad taste in her mouth.
That doesn't make her Red Flag justified. She could have easily said "Men artist that take advantage of women clients" or "Men artists that are creepy". Instead she chose to just say "Men" and Red flagging a whole gender, which to me discredits her. She's entitled to her own opinion, whatever but mine is that she's discredited entirely. Specificity is more respectful than general/broad statements
@@alexortiz1971 I hear what you mean, but do me a favour... Pay attention to the way you and the people around you speak. We all use generalised language and yeah it's not fair but we as a spesies generalise dangerous/uncomfortable things. For example, if someone does something bad like attack a school then we villainzie the whole group that person belongs to, but if someone stops the attack then we praise the specific person not the whole group... and this is not an isolated case, this happenes all the time in many different areas. Is this fair? Hell no it's very unfair and leads to a lot of unnecessary conflicts and confusion, but it still happens.
So again, I agree and yeah she might be vindictive there but I still think that giving the benefit of the doubt here and taking the context of her talking about getting tattoos gives enough context to justify giving her a little bit of slack.
@beardedricotheold2640 I'm very aware on how most people speak in broad/general statements. Hence why I said specificity is more respectful, I do my best to ensure I don't broad stroke situations. I don't blame a group of people based off one person's actions. News medias like CNN or Fox may do that since they are large organizations that any singular individual has no full control of it. But as individuals we control what we say or do. Her TikTok video wasn't an organizational video outside her control that went to some editor, she was in full control in what she said and still chose to use a general statement. Is it possible she made a mistake, yes. Also possible that she truly meant it, yes. And choices like that have consequences. You may choose to give her the benefit of the doubt, okay you do that. I don't, and that's my choice just like it was hers to make that general statement.
I've been tattooed by men and women. My current go to is a man and also an apprentice. I adore him and his work and I'm going to be sticking with him for the foreseeable future. He does better work and has a better table side manner than the woman I went to before him who had been tattooing for 10+ years. What makes a good tattoo isn't always how long your artist has been working and it definitely isn't what's between their legs or how they identify.
okey, but not every women is able to feel safe around men.
I get it tho. I am a man so I'm not worried about that to be honest, but I know about many tattoo artists near me that are weird with girls or straight up creeps. Wouldn't blame a girl who has had bad experiences like that before to be weary of getting tattooed by men
My artist is also an apprentice…he did my most beautiful piece. I have other pieces by artists with 20+ years experience and I really like them, but the one he did is the best. He was very very careful and he cared so much about me. Even contacted me a week later to ask how it was healing and if I had any questions about the aftercare instructions he gave me. Will be seeing him for future pieces for sure
Unfortunately, statistically speaking, what is between their legs does matter
I can understand wanting to get tattooed by women only, especially if you have had negative experiences in the past. I was fortunate enough to find my (male) artist and got along great with him. Super funny/silly dude with a massive amount of experience and talent. I am bummed that I now live across the country from him.
Regarding blackout tattoos, I've seen some pretty cool scarification done on top of that or white linework once the black ink has settled fully.
I only used numbing cream when my artist told me to. I didn’t for the first session I definitely did by the end. There are definitely pros and cons so as long as the artist is okay with it and you are okay with the possible effects of it.
I'm covered in american traditional, so there's a couple flash patterns that everyone and their dad, grandpa, and great grandpa had on them...
Some tattoos have staying power, and timepieces might be the new subject in 50 years that just becomes part of the culture.
I'm with you on that! Bold will hold!
My first tattoo was done by a guy, and while he was very good during the process, he and the shop owner were very judgemental, to the point where I almost cancelled the appointment. The same woman did the rest of my tattoos, and she's always been polite, kind and very friendly. In the shop she's in now, she's the only female artist, but all the other tattoo artists seem very supportive of each other's craft. However, the guy with the Charles Manson portrait over his booth gives me the jeebees.
It's not rhe gender of the artist that matters, just if they're the tattoo's world of a grognard or not.
I'm a woman. My tattoo artist is a man. The shop I go to has mostly male artists. We've been working on my body suit, and we've done my full back, stomach, and torso/ribs/chest on either side from collarbone to hip, which has entailed many days of hanging out in the shop with pretty skimpy pasties and without much in the shirt department. I am perfectly comfortable working with him, because we're also both grown adults who understand that tattooing is an actual profession in which the client sometimes has to not have a lot of clothing on in certain areas depending on what is being worked on, and we're both capable of handling the situation like mature people and acting like we are in a professional environment. We're just there to do/get some cool tattoos. Nobody is there for ogling or leering or giggling like middle schoolers in sex ed class. We're all just a bunch of nerds who think that the process of making permanent art on the human body is neat.
If someone has a personal preference or life experiences that make them more comfortable with an artist of a specific gender or sexual orientation, that's cool, but someone's gender identity doesn't inherently make them a walking red flag for existing. People are people. Some people are cool, some people are not cool. See their work, go to a consult, if you click, great, go ahead and book with them, if not, keep looking until you do find someone you click with.
I have absolutely zero interest in getting a tattoo, but I still found this video to be pretty engaging. Good stuff!
I felt like I had a lot of people with me when I got my first tattoo a few months ago. It was an emotional one for me, plus I had some anxiety about the process so my mom gave me a ride to and from, but she waited outside while I got it done. My brother helped me set up the appointment with his tattoo guy; he was there the whole time and held my hand and talked to me so I wouldn't be scared, it was exactly what I needed. His girlfriend at the time showed up too - I didn't know she was gonna be there so it really started feeling crowded - but thankfully she didn't hang out either. I can totally see showing up with a bunch of people going sideways.
I equate the women tattooist to more of an intimate thing (not sex, doofs). I think most women prefer another woman to do their facials, waxing, and manicures. Another woman "gets" it. But it is also a personal choice. And there certainly is nothing wrong with wanting to support women tattoo artists!
Supporting women isn't the issue ..it's the degradation and discrimination against all male artists for no reason aside from their gender ... That's disgusting !!
personally I think having a stranger touch me in those sort of situations is uncomfortable no matter the gender.
I'm a guy I prefer women tattooer's but got tattooed by men too. I just think the chances of a man being more heavy handed than a woman is greater. But ultimately depends on who does what and how well they do it.
This has been my experience too, female tatttoo artists were much gentler so I generally prefer them. Still, it wouldn't stop me from going to a tattoo artist if they were a man.
I am not a tattooer apprentice yet whatsoever but wow you give very good professional critique. You do a very good job of highlighting the contrast between good/okay and professional. Anybody that would've heard the critique you made about the wolf design would've probably took that personally lol
Thanks for standing up for the blackout folks
About the topic of "moving a lot", I leave this just as an FYI. Depending on the place I am usually someone who could move a lot after a while. I have two lumbar hernias and some positions make it impossible for me to sustain for too much time because my spine starts to compress and the discs press my ciatic nerve. So do have in mind that you could get a client with chronic pain that might need to readjust from time to time. I usually ask because my ciatic nerve hurts more than the tattoo XD
Other than that, I've been able to manage 6hs straight tattoos. But I do suggest to clients to tell this to the tattoo artists beforehand and ask before moving, like giving a heads up. That's what I do with mine :D
I mean, I could understand someone being more comfortable with a male or female tattooer, particularly if it’s in an intimate area - but it’s not a red flag. Her red flag is a red flag 😂
As someone who is covered in tribal tattoos I can say it is kinda hard to find an artist who enjoys working on me
I have a PERSONAL preference for female tattoo artists as I want to support these professionals who work in a male-dominated environment, and most of the time they are usually the ones that do the kind of tattoo art i enjoy better. The safety is a bonus.
The first artist I had was obsessed with clean equipment. I was was very thankful for that.
Yeah, I totally agree with you. I was married to a tattoo artist for almost 20 years and yes, I have seen all of these. Well done!
I think people forget with tribal, there is so many different kinds. You have Celtic tribal, but then you have the different Pasifika tribals, such as Samon, Maori, Tongan, and Fijian, to name a few as each Pasifika island, has their own style of tribal. They might look the same, but they are different. With each symbol, having a meaning behind them. I mean, with the Maori ones alone, they tell where you are from, who you are as a person, and they tell your life story when done by a Maori moko artist, as they know what they mean. And that's not even starting on the different Asian tribal styles or even the South American Tribal.
I've only been tattooed by a woman but that is coincidence. Women can be just as creepy as men btw.
No they can't lol Jeffery Dahmer ate people
@@ifthatthenthis3797 and Anna Zimmerman prepared her boyfriend for her young kids as supper
@@Ezakin00 Her "Boyfriend" lol
@@Ezakin00 Are we seriously going to argue which gender is the most creepy. Lol it's not even close
@@ifthatthenthis3797 my brother in christ. I do not give a shit about your opinion. You stated that women cant be more creepy than men with the example of Dahmer. I gave you an example of a woman being worse than Dahmer.
hi! I've been watching so many videos of yours, and I wanted to say I love them, your explanations are so clear and your videos are entertaining!
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how much this guy sounds like " House!"?. So cool!.
The thing for me about tribal tattoos is why the person got it/who they are. Many cultures still have traditions involving tattoos. If that's why you're getting a tribal tattoo, go you. If it's because you want to seem edgy or whatever, no.
And I don't get not wanting to get a tattoo from a male artist? All but one of my tattoos (not that I have very many yet) have been done by guys. If their portfolio is good, I can afford them, and the tattoo in the style I'm wanting, they get the job.
end of the day #5 is valid to her. if you're not trying to get tatted by a man, dope find a female/NB artist, whats the hangup? And to be fair their work is arguably better 90% of the time. like i active seek out female artists because consistently their portfolios are more diverse & they can adapt as opposed to the dude that's been in the game his whole life & takes cigarettes for tips. Not to say he doesn't absolutely kill at traditional....but that's all he kills at
I’ve been tattooed by two men and two women so far. All are talented artists and chill people. One man was having a bit of an off day the second time I went to him (he was going through a divorce and his soon to be ex would not stop calling him), but he was kind and extremely apologetic. One woman I felt weird after going back to get a touch up since she seemed like she was rushing/didn’t want to be there. She also didn’t remember tattooing me and even though she took fresh and healed photos, had no record of it anywhere, so that made me feel a bit weird since she had photos of every other tattoo she’d done spanning back over a year (she said as such). I’m a bit more hesitant to get more work from her (even though I love her portfolio and work), but even then I am fairly confident I would get work done by both artists again.
My point is, everyone has off days and everyone can leave a client feeling a bit weird about an interaction. Gender has nothing to do with it. Her “red flag” is just sexism.
lol that feel when your tattoos are so generic that you can't even recognize when someone has a tattoo from you
@@CytrisMonster If it was generic I could understand, but what’s sad is it’s oddly specific and unique. This was done by an anime tattooer, but I -think- it’s because the artist didn’t know one of the series and was in the middle of planning to go to a convention a few days after doing the piece. The artist remembered several series I recommended while there and had since publicly shared positive impressions of said series, so I made some sort of impact. Just doesn’t remember that tattoo.
@@adventurerkate That's so weird. I've been tattooing for 2 years and I'm really bad with names and faces (or maybe I'm just an asshole idk), so it's happened a few times where I'll run into someone I tattooed and not remember them, but the thing that always cues me is their tattoo--which I immediately recognize as mine. Like it's your flash and your art--if it's a custom that you didn't spend a lot of time thinking about I guess I get it. Also, it's important to remember that a successful tattoo artist (not me) probably meets hundreds of people every year
@@CytrisMonster You’re absolutely right. I think the hurt on my part came with the combo of finding out she lost the photos/didn’t have record of it and the overall vibe with the touch up. But I also recognize I can be a very emotional person and we all have our days. I know it wasn’t personal, and I do my best to be a good client, so if I feel so inclined I will get more work done by the artist. And honestly I’m glad that (so far) I have had overall good experiences with my artists. It could always be much worse.
Its not with skill though(I assume). Obviously I dont know her so who knows, but she prob meant she doesnt feel comfy around men who she doesnt know, which is valid. she should have worded it differently, calling all male artists "red flags" isnt it.
so as for the man red flag I think its mainly her personal comfort and for many women they feel the same. To me getting tattooed is a somewhat vulnerable thing to do / position to be in. I get tattoed primarily by a male artist however i would not have been nearly as comfortable with him doing some of my tattoos (hip/upper-inner thigh, chest etc.) if we didnt have the relationship we do have. do i think some male artists ive gone to / know of have a ton of red flags to most of their female clients hell yeah but not all male artists are a red flag
Honestly, I hate needles. I always tell the artist about it, so it takes a little longer because he is mindful. I have been getting better at getting tattoos since they are medium to small size (large phone). The payment part is always tricky because I always consult with him first about the pricing of a piece I want. He gives an estimate, I saves the money, come back, and make the appointment/deposit. I do not bargain the price, but I like to know how much in advance so I budget. I think the biggest red flag for me is when they do not listen or want me to give them the tattoo.
I can kind of understand her 'ick' with "they are men". There was a time that I wanted to get a piece on my chest mirrored and put on the other side to match. I took my best friend with me who is tiny, curvy, with gigantic tits. 15 tears ago it wasn't very common for shops to have women who tattooed. Every shop we went to would immediately address my friend and offer her a discount on whatever she wanted. When I would tell them that I was the one wanting to get a small tattoo on my chest mirrored, they immediately quoted me prices for tracing, having to flip the image, and then tattooing. I told them, "I know you're just BS-ing me and that shops and artists don't charge for those things. If you don't want my money you could just say no"
A couple of the male artists who have worked on me since then told me, "Those pigs were trying to draw your friend in by quoting her discounted prices hoping to see or touch her body. Once they figured out that she wasn't getting tattooed they over quoted you to get rid of you. Probably better that you didn't go with any of those 'artists' because they probably weren't very good"
I'm not indigenous to New Zealand, the US or any other place where tattoos are part of cultural expression. But I still find it incredibly ignorant to just label "tribal tattoos" as a red flag. Tribal tattoos are called exactly that, tribal, because they started out as cultural expression among tribes and indigenous peoples. While I understand she's most likely referring to the "white guy/chick in the 90's who thought it was cool" type of tribal tattoo, just labeling it "tribal tattoos" with a spewing emoji is extremely ignorant. A lot of people are still fighting for their rights to be accepted while wearing their cultural expression on their bodies.
I was thinking the same
I can see the point of being uncomfortable with a man tattooing near or on an intimate body part, or you find that particularartist a little creepy, but calling it red flag is a little much. I recently got my first tattoo within the last couple months with a guy and he was gentle with me and all that
It makes sense that someone wouldn’t want to be tattooed by a man. I was in that boat for a hot minute because all my bad experiences getting tattooed were with men. One guy apparently thought tattoos should hurt and was purposely heavy handed. One guy didn’t listen to me when I told him I had an adhesive allergy and I ended up with a horrible reaction that blistered. I’ve had male tattooers be flirty in really creepy ways. I’ve had no bad experiences being tattooed by women, so after one really bad experience, I completely took a break from going to male tattooers. Obviously not every man who tattoos will make the experience unpleasant, but it happens so often that sometimes it feels a lot safer to just get tattooed by women
You just choose your artists poorly it seems..it doesn't happen often... It happens often to you ... Think on that maybe
@@Majormoose1 It happens often to every non-man I know. I’m sorry if you are personally offended by the fact that so many men are trash. Think on why that is, maybe.
I totally get an artist making it hurt for no reason. My first tattoo was 2 sessions, each 2 hours on my calf and I was crying by the end of both sessions. The artist was getting annoyed with me throughout the session. Flash forward to getting my kneecap done for my 2nd tattoo by another artist and it sucked but was no where near as painful as the one on my leg. It upset me so much cause I thought I just sat bad and I really considered never getting tattooed again after that first piece.
That was brilliant, love the deadpan delivery
Hey Pony! You did one of my tattoos 10 years ago! Glad to see you doing well on here!
i used numbing cream on some painful areas but i asked my artist first and i used the brand she recommended
I’m just a guy trying to pay my bills and support my kid. It kind of stinks that there are people out there that wouldn’t want to get tattooed by me just because the way I was born.
POC, lgbt, and women agree with you. It's unfortunate, but unfortunately there are enough bad apples who have assaulted clients that as women we do have to be mindful. And if someone had previous trauma I see why they wouldn't want to risk it again.
Until sex crimes aren't so rampant anymore, little girls will continue growing up with this view
Meet the artist and go from there for how you feel getting tattoed by them. Gender does not matter, how you jive in person does.
I had my first one the other day, I was so nervous on my way to have it done, even though 90% of the people in my area were done by him, hes been doing it for roughly 30 years (God bless his soul, he tried so hard with his website & online portfolio). But now I've had it done I have no clue why I was so nervous, he's an amazing bloke, tattood several generations by now, he seems to be a reliable guy.
I JUST got a tattoo! Didn't haggle the price, didn't use numbing cream, just took some pain pills in advance! Also, I went with a blackberry bush. It has the dates of my dad's birth and death. He always loved fresh blackberries, thus the blackberry bush.
I have a huge cheetah print tattoo and I hate it so much. I got it when I was super self conscious of my body on my hip in a way that was very flattering to my figure. But now that I’m a mom I am so embarrassed and I wanna laser it off but it’s so big.
Also my artist I found out later was a serial *sa* and was fired from the shop.
I hate that I have multiple shitty pieces from him, that I originally loved, but they healed so horribly over time and he was kind of an asshole with pressuring designs that were massive or free handing things that didn’t NEED to be added.
Anyways. I promise I’m not a red flag 🤣 I just have a horrible tattoo I want rid of desperately.
While you hate the cheetah pattern, do you actually like the animal? Perhaps a good tattoo makeover artist could rework into the animal in a way that looks nice. Then you wouldn’t have to go for all those laser removal sessions.
@@adeleennis2255 honestly it’s massive and it’s got the dreaded skin rips 🤣 another red flag I’m sure 🫠 I thought I was so hot when I was 22 lol it takes up my whole inner hip to top and inner thigh kind of in a swooping design.
It’s gonna be miserable to laser off I already know it, but it’s impossible to cover with all the thick black lines. Luckily a majority of the yellow and orange has fallen out so I’m hopeful it’s possible to get at least light enough for a coverup in the future
I’m a dude and I prefer female tattoo artists over male. Females are more gentle. Dudes are pretty aggressive. Line work they’re about the same. Filling and shading is where they differ. That’s just my experience.
Finally found someone who told me they work with cremains. Went into the shop and noped out of there really quick after talking to him. Red flags:
1. Came out from the back smelling like a walking joint. Yes, mj is legal where I live but do I want someone under the influence tattooing me?
2. I wanted to set up a consultation appointment (paid, of course). He said he didn’t do them and that I should just trust my artist.
3. I asked him how he processes the cremains/ashes. He told me he just dumps them in the ink. That’s NOT how it should be done!
All of this from a supposedly reputable place! Were my expectations too high?
No, I think you had reasonable expectations. I have been tattood by someone who was high and I have watched artists tattoo someone else while taking bong rips on their 'get up and take 5 to walk around'. I live where it is legal so it didn't bother me and the work in each occasion was great work and the artist did as I asked. If it doesn't sit well I think you did well to move on.
No reputable artist would put ash into skin!
Thanks for the tips on what to look for as a client. I'm a 64yo woman, thinking of getting my first tattoo and didn't know how to start or what to look for.
I can't imagine anything that would motivate me to get a tattoo, but I still found this video interesting and am glad it showed up as a recommendation.
I understand this whole comment section but if I'm not mistaken she mentions at the beginning of the video that those are just her "icks" which are notoriously known for being subjective.
The “all men“ comment is definitely an over reaction in my opinion. That being said this past year was the first time I’d ever been tattooed by a man (actually multiple men). I’ve gotten countless tattoos over the last ten years and within that time I’ve only ever looked for and gone to femme artists. I have A LOT of trauma and cptsd due to years of abuse at the hands of different men who’ve come in and out of my life. As a result I didn’t trust any male presenting artists in the industry (or in general 😅). After extensive work in therapy and diligent research I’ve been able to find a couple of male artists (locally) that I will be going to religious as well as the femme artists I’ve known and loved for years. All this to say you never know what someone might be going through. Hopefully, we can keep open minds, learn to trust one another and just be decent people lol. Also, give yourself companionship, listen to your needs and trust your gut. Just maybe try not to write off a large part of the tattoo industry or in my case population while doing so 😂💀
I get her #5. I get intimidated a lot, and so I tend to feel more comfortable around women, but I base things off of the vibes that I get from the person. But I do have a preference for female/queer tattooers So I recognize that it's a me problem rather than a you problem.
My mom has many infinity symbols to show her love for her husband (my dad) I love the infinity symbol mainly because I see it a lot at home and it makes me happy, that’s why I wear an infinity necklace too
Watching this and appreciating my tattooist more and more every second haha
The white skinned red flag means that they don't have any photos of them tattooing people with darker skin. It usually means they don't have the skills or even experience tattooing people with dark skin.
And the man one I can kinda get. I once was getting a tattoo on my arm and while alone with my male tattoo artist, he kept making very uncomfortable comments about my boobs and kept saying how he would love to see them and offered to do a sternum tattoo to really compliment them and see them up close. I felt so scared in that moment and felt like I couldn't even say anything because I was alone and he had a literal needle in my arm.
My usual tattoo artist has almost all of Tiffany's red flags, and he's my favorite. 😂
“You’re a red flag Tiffany” stole the whole video 😂😂😂😂
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Don’t have a tattoo(afraid of needle gun) but I’ve seen some I have considered getting to cover my scars. I have many scars. Inside ankle, outside tibia, knee replacement, appendectomy, c section, burn on my hand, large cyst removal on my back. Scars are ugly but many tattoos are beautiful. If only I could get over that little phobia I have. Also never met a female artist in my small rural town, both are men here.