PLUMBING APPRENTICE'S WATER HEATER INSTALLATION TIPS
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- CB2 and I install a gas water heater. Instead of filming entire job I just give clips of must do's for apprentice to know so he or she can be an effective helper.
Every day plumbing repairs and installs featured all while my two sons CB2 and Angelo learn the plumbing trade.
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PLUMBING APPRENTICE'S WATER HEATER INSTALLATION TIPS
To get paint off of copper pipe I usually put a torch flame on it for a 5-10 seconds, which causes the paint to bubble, and then use Emory cloth (not sandpaper) which brings it back to a nice shine. Pliers work ok, but I’ve found that the flame method is the easiest. Sometimes you can’t get pliers all the way around the pipe. It works as long as there is nothing around the pipe that will burst into flames.
Yes I forgot to mention the torch trick...Thank You Robert...Networking baby.....we love it
Great trick. I do that as well but use a old cleaning brush to remove the paint. I've had better luck that way.
Your videos are so realistic on the problems that can arise during plumbing service calls, keep it going Chuck..
Thanks Stevie...Like we say...Everyday Plumbing
“Don’t hide behind your hood” “get your hands out of your pockets” “make eye contact” words of the wise and ways to get your a** chewed out
smack smack upside his head is next.
Customers like eye contact builds trust and by all means hood down when around customers . Your not in the hood with that hood CB2 and it's not cold indoors.
@@ChuckBarron Violence only begets violence my Brother.Take my advice and dock his pay,trust me when I tell you that a hit in the wallet works wonders in correcting bad attitudes and non compliance.Start by docking $25.00 or $50.00 depending on the severity of the bad attitude and/or non compliance,if that doesn't rectify the bad attitude and/or non complinace increase the penalty by $25.00 or $50.00 increments and watch how bad attitudes and non compliance start to disappear as if by magic.Usually people have the "Well,I'll get paid anyway." mindset and that's what you need to address.If you make a person's attitude change from "Well,I'll get paid anyway." to "If I don't drop the attitude/don't listen I'm not getting paid." the person in question will have no choice but to rethink their attitude and non compliance.Money or lack thereof changes many things,including bad attitudes and/or non compliance.Good video,God and peace be with you and your loved ones my Brother.
All good tips, I am going to have my helper watch this video 10 times. Well done sir!
so many tips we can add...its endless. thanks brezzzzzzzzz
Nice tip with the pliers!!
thanks g...torch also from our members.
great to see ya with your son those gas fittings seem odd here in michigan have not come across this ,27 degrees and i must go out and clean my dam van good day sir
thanks Jim. stay warm daddio.
Dam we almost got it from cb2. He getting there slowly but surely. Good job guys
CB2 close to becoming a spokesman....lol
top installation cb2 likes to see the fire on happy new year from the uk.
thanks ratch.....HNY to you also
Love your video's, i catch them whenever I can! Hey i wanted to ask you if you guys require hot water mixing valves on water heaters down there in your area?
yes. especially on apt. buildings for 3 handle valves.
Wire brush on a drill for removing paint works great
awesome for sure.....especially if you have the house where they decided to paint all pipes including the gas meter....Lol....I have seen it....
Keep up the good work fellas. CB2 will be making more money than his buddies that wasted time and money going to college in no time. I forgot to drain the hose when I was a apprentice and got shit for it all day. Lol
me too tk.....that hose was a hard a rock......never forget to drain it again after that.
Yellow flame on newly lit burner, most times, be caused by dust being burned up in the initial fire. Watch it for a few minutes without moving your body or any objects around, the yellow will go away gradually. Blow against the floor in the direction of the burner and the yellow will flare right back up, its just dust burning in the flame.
awesome...thanks steve.
nice find and example of "anti-drip-leg" lol
everything would just blow right past that of course, including "moisture beads" in wet gas.
throttle got the good eye.
FYI You should always put a Union/dialelectric union on water heater mip pre-fab nipples. Viega makes them for pro press or you can get brass or copper 3/4” pro press x 3/4” FIP Union from your local supplier or contractor access online store.
we never do that here....not sure why not.
CB2, I feel your pain my friend, I am not a morning person either, and I want nothing more than to be left alone until I get my first soda inside of me and wake up more. CB1, good tips on the flame issue, I know new, but did you check your gas pressure? Thanks for the video, really enjoy the tips that you give.
Thanks David....CB2 loves the am chatter....The louder the better...
Your gas pipe should go on the wall behind the water heater,bring it down and use a smaller flex. Check the gas pressure,and ajust the valve
thanks plumber.
Cb2 is grumpy did he get his coffee?good job for showing and teaching apprentices.DONT STOP THE PUMP..👍👍👍👍
thanks ferios
I like Rheem water heater
oh ok...roger that.
I've had bad luck with Bradford white heater
I have had good luck. To me they are steady eddy as they should be. What did you run into?
you can change the yellow flame by pissing around with the gas pressure. I have a combustion analyzer and I hardly use it more so cause I rarely do change outs, if you were to get it, it would probably be more handy for you. ive done a furnace where it is more efficient to run at a lower pressure than its preset 2.8"wc instead of 3.5"wc (older low boy) went from 60% efficient to 70%, pretty good for a 40 year old beast. if u only had a manometer I wouldn't go to crazy and keep it around 3,5" give or take.5 but you can only really see what you are doing with a combustion analyzer. steve lavs got a bunch of videos on using it, that's were I learned from. my testo 310 cost me about 900 Canadian a few years ago.
another under rated thing to check for is what kind of shit is in the basement. if you got a bunch of harsh chemicals down there leaking about, paint, jerry cans, other shit that would mix with the air and screw with your burn. I had a water heater call and went and checked it out, they had their cat litter box within 1ft of a fresh air sensor and when they never changed the litter the ammonia in the cat piss would eventually get bad enough to shutter down.
I'm sure it was oil burning off from factory assembly and dust stirred up burning off will make it very yellow for a short while also..
for sure. Thanks Kyle...stevie lav fan here too. he inspired me to do my channel
Ive made that mistake with a ball valve in a crawl up against a joist i gently bent the handle of the ball valve out so i could get room
I've been in the trade 33 years, and you taught me the plier's on paint trick (many video's ago). I've always just scraped and sanded the crap out of the pipe all those years, or used a torch. One question though Chuck, why don't you use PVC on the relief valve pipe? I'll put back the old one if it's in good shape, but I never put back new copper, because of the cost these days. I understand it's an extra step, and more crap we have to bring in the house. CB2...you almost caved at the end, that's alright, we WILL get an enthusiastic ending out of you!
lol......cb2 coming around in his old young buck age......us old dogs always learning...I really need to changed to pvc...i just love the look of copper.. See Im too nice of a plumber...lol.
black or galvanized iron pipe with no threads works very well at keeping idiots from capping it off, especially now with all the easy push on sharkbite/others.
they just slip right onto copper or plastic so easily =p
Can't use pvc on relief valve. It will fail inspection. Not heat rated. Only CPVC, copper or galvanized / black pipe without threads on bottom.
@@pineychristian I meant CPVC...just forgot the C..just so use to saying "PVC" in general.
@@anthonys.5653 I hear ya man. Me too. Most commonly used
On a painted pipe I took a torch to it before cleaning copper , it made the paint come off easier
yes ....... i forgot that one.. thanks floyd
Cool stuff
To take off the paint I use a brush and paint remover I don't run the risk to bend the pipe and with flame I don't waste my gas
roger that Jr.
You should put a bonding wire across hot to cold!!
Yes. code now.
In il you cant use reg galv pipe on gas it has to be blk pipe and your shutoff has to be fairly close to the controls on the water heater it self
roger that allen....codes all so different...good eye plumber.
Brand new heaters have rust inhibitors and other coatings on their heating elements to keep them clean during storage. These burn off during first light, causing a yellow flame. The same thing happens with furnaces and sometimes the smoke detector goes off on first light because coating burns off the outside of the heat exchanger.
thanks KD
Bradford white is good, yellow flame, you might not have great gas pressure over there,its common where I am
I like bradford too.
You can use a wire wheel with a drill to strip the paint off of that copper pipe or you can use a torch to burn the paint off.Some ppeople like to use a solvent but I prefer either the wire wheel with a drill or a torch to burn off the paint on coppper pipe.
you can do both.
Don't you do Gas soundness test ?
air test?
Been trying to get on as a helper and cant any calls back! Plumbing is a dream job for me & cant seem to get on.
keep pushing dawg....bang on door a little louder then repeat...it will happen. because plumbing is not going any where.
Don't call, go to their offices or the dude's house and knock on his door. Or go to new construction job sites when the plumber is there and ask if he needs help. Gotta show initiative and drive to work otherwise you better know somebody that knows somebody to get you in. Network and make connections, sitting at home waiting for a phone call that's never going to come is just wasting time. Gotta go out there and get it.
I thought u can use galvanized fitten on gas
you can use both here in New Jersey.
great tips.
Thanks Vin
CB I think bradford white ran out of blue for their flame, I did one this morning and the flame was yellow. Thanks for video
I'm sure it was oil burning off from factory assembly and dust stirred up burning off will make it very yellow for a short while also..
we got er done and she singing the blues....Thanks guys
I should have said condensate boiling off into steam makes yellow flames also, I recall hearing it drip and sizzle when it first started with tank cold.
fortunately they only condense when first started or ran way cold..
So True!! Never know what the job entails. I am apprentice now for 5 months, is it realistic to be on your own?? Takes 4 years to get your journeymen license.
I would have no problem with situational jobs...to know the service trade I would say no...I cannot release beast yet...The beast AKA CB2.....lol
what does the pump do? i do water heater install too but we usually just open the valve and drain it.
expedites pump out and need a pump if in basement. they are very useful
Cb nice job. you need to check out the Milwaukee Rocket tower led light we bought the non charging model 3000 lumens and you can either plug it in with a cord or use a 18 volt battery the other one also charges batteries but its $100 more !!!!!
yes....the battery can become an issue on long uses.....battery shuffle all the time. Thanks Rich
Damn i Think usa is faaar behind on everything in plumbing materials. Im from Sweden and have been plumbing for 10 years now. But thats how it is countrys are more or less developed in different things i guess. But still you guys are fun and interesting to watch :)
plumbing so interesting across the world. thanks ricky
2:50
Why would you not use the floor drain for the pump excess...something different on the east coast older homes?
Im sure that was clogged if not filled with dirt..it would of been a mess for sure. but good eye plumber.
it is call condensate from the tank heating up
thank you clifton..
I like to cut the end of the relief pipe at an angle so a home owner can't pop on a shark bite on the end
great idea....i never thought of shark bite cap.
That's a great tip, I just hope the homeowner doesn't find a more creative way to close it up before actually calling out the Plumber, I'm gonna start doing that on the next one though
You might want to mention that if there is water coming out of the safety valve you might need to add an expansion tank
thanks mike.....so many lessons.....apprentices do you here Big Mike? Thanks Mike
10:06 Nice bird feeder shots ! Happy New Year CBs and Angelo !
Man them birds were going crazy. I tried for 10 min to get da bird shots....lol....Happy New Year to you also.
The screws on vent pipe is unecessary and a mess for the guy who will sweeping it. Also, the crimped end goes down, to keep condensate or water inside the pipe.
i aways go crimp towards flow...no co leaks. I always screw pipe also. thanks sylvain.
I think you said 12" of hard pipe on water lines. UPC is 18" of hard pipe out of WH before you can go PEX or plastic. I thought most codes was the same.
oh snap. Thanks barney. We all gotta teach these young buck a roo's. thanks dude.
24"above heater before u transition to pex in Massachusetts !!!
ole chucky u better watch steve o on instlls of wh no plastic clips flex gas lines ect ect mayb u can get a lill dog 2 soupervize 2 lol happy new yr pall
I have my kitties....lol they are insiders for sure. Oh man you know we have no ego here. Thanks James....Stevie baby....
Yellow flame mean`s tow things low oxygen or chemicals on the burner
Oh yes the oil burn off from production...thanks rommel
@@ChuckBarron Your welcome Chuck
im a gas engineer from the uk...
a yellow flame is incomplete combustion and produces carbon monoxide NOT GOOD!
caused mostly by lack of air or oxygen
a blue flame is complete combustion and produces carbon dioxide and water vapour...
1 situation in the uk where we are allowed to leave a yellow flame and is safe, is caused if the home owner uses oxygen cylinders to help them breathe.. the cylinders supposedly give of something into the air which causes any blue flame to turn yellow..
if we had boiler (we only have combi boilers mostly in the uk) with a yellow flame it would be shut down and there gas supply to the property capped straight away!
with this been a new water heater though i guess its just crap on the burner and would soon sort itself out..
brendan uk
I'm sure it was oil burning off from factory assembly and dust stirred up burning off will make it very yellow for a short while also..
Engineers tend to be book smart not too much common sense. In real world there is dust and dirt. If you move at all near a gas appliances while in operation they will start to burn yellow because of ppm of dust particles you disturbed if you want to get all technical. But you engineers like to test everything in a lab or in your perfect world which does not exist. The air screens are directly on bottom of Bradford water heaters. They pull air from sides thru bottom. Also with all water heaters when started for 1st time tank is ice cold cause of water temp. When heated rapidly the tank sweats and condensation drips back on to burner that is why you see big yellow flame up. You can see and hear the drip on to the burner. I have installed hundreds of water heaters and they do this everytime.
@@pineychristian yeah, I forgot to mention the new tank being full of cold water, condensing and dripping on the burner, with lots of loud sizzling, popping and the super yellow flame it causes also. not like I haven't seen it a few (thousand times) lol
@@throttlebottle5906 i have had quite a few customers swear when new water heater install was finished that water heater was leaking inside. I had to explain this condensation deal atleast couple dozen times or more LoL
roger that.
7 outta 10
Check back after 12:00 😂
#everydayplumbing
you back yet....lol
Nothing better than harassing your kid. Thanks CB1 and CB2!
oh snap.....wake up CB2 you with us???
I should read other comments before adding mine sorry. Oops
no worries.....lol
In one of your videos you mention "stevie lav",I don't care for that guy at all because I saw the guy trying to ream a copper pipe with a flat head screw driver.I understand if there was nothing else to use to ream the copper pipe with in an emergency but GEEZZ!!!I'm sure the guy gets paid enough to be able to afford a dedicated pipe deburring and reaming tool,why use a flat head screw driver?Also he has that heavy and overly exaggerated "accent",hell,I was born and raised in NYC and I don't talk the way he and many other people do.I subscribed then I unsubscribed from the guy's youtube page because it seems the guy doesn't take well to criticism so screw him and his overly exaggerated "accent".That "stevie lav" guy also has the very bad habit of using an angle grinder without the grinder guard on the grinder yet he puts on rubber gloves,so the guy worries about getting germs on his hands but is not concerned about loosing a finger using an angle grinder without the grinder guard and I'm supposed to believe that the guy is a professional?I really don't think so.I saw one of that "stevie lav's" videos where he was literally beating the snot out of a copper elbow that was giving him a hard time going all the way onto the copper pipe he was working on and that's when I decided that I had to unsubscribe from that guy's youtube page.You can't go beating the snot out of coppper fittings because although copper is strong is can be easily deformed by being pounded on too hard/too much,what professional doesn't know that fact?I don't need to waste my time telling anybody anything,if so-called professionals think they can do a better job by losing a finger fuck them,that's their loss not mine.Idiots will continue to use angle grinders without the grinder guard on until one day they come up short of a finger and I'll still have all of my ten digits so why should I give a shit if they don't care about their safety?I tell people things out of concern,if they want to label me a pest so be it,but remember,after all is said and done it won't be me losing any fingers for using angle grinders or any other tools in a dangerous manner.
We all have our bad days for sure. We glad your hear brother.
@@ChuckBarron Thank you my Brother.I will never lie to you or tell you anything that is not important.If I say something to you or to anyone it's because I care.God bless you and your family Chuck,you're a good honest man and it's an honor to know you and learn from you.True friends tell us what we need to hear even if it may not always be what we want to hear.
@@mikev.1034 You can say that again my Brother,the guy lacks any and all common sense,respect and tact.I saw one of his videos where he was replacing baseboard heaters and can you believe the guy didn't even bother trying to use any kind of heat shield,still using his angle grider without the grinder guard on it but he wears those surgical gloves and calls his shabby self a professional plumber.If that "lav" guy was any more stuck the hell up he'd have to open his mouth to be able to tell if the sun is out or not.A wise man learns from others while the foolish man strggles and suffers because of his hubris.
What's Up...
yes yes we here to stay.....Happy New Year Day 2.....lol
chucker dont call vent pipe smoke pipe thats wat cb2 and buds smoke at frat house
No Weed........lol....even if its medical.. NO BUENO!!
Can’t use plastic clips for gas
oh wow.....Roger that Chris...thanks my mans