Modernizing An Ancient Japanese Woodburning Technique
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In which I avoid burning some stuff then brushing some stuff.
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You're becoming a real programmer: You spend 20 hours automating a 16 hour task.
lol 🤣inspiring, isnt he?
No, you mean a real you-tuber.
Uh... But it pays off when the next time it rolls around.
11:54 i went to college with a jumpsuit guy, and he would hang out at the junk yard on weekends and pick through people's stuff right after they dumped it. he had a LOT of really interesting stuff. he was also the guy who could get literally anything. one time we needed massive springs for a huge catapult, and he provided them that weekend. he even had a spare. i guess they were from some kind of heavy equipment's shock absorbing system that was dumped. he also got more jump suits from the dump, so he remained a perpetual jump suit guy. its a lifestyle
This is an excellent comment!
I own a jumpsuit and now that you mention it I think I'm becoming this guy. I have a service truck for personal use and have become the guy people ask when they need mechanical help
Jump Suit Guy don't give a shit.
That's it, buying a jumpsuit.
Yes! New Cranktown Vid. You doing this: robotically, all by hand, and in the snow is probably the most Japanese thing I have seen perfect homage.
Damn, that turned out much better than I would have thought, it even seems to be practical.
your welding based additive technology is awesome.
Criminally under rated channel! Great video as always.
my man is building the sketchiest machines known to mankind, and somehow they get the job done.
kudos !
Quick sewing project: add Velcro or a zipper to the jumpsuit for an easy open flap
You can get em w the flap but its still fiddly af. You need to pull your shorts down, but pant legs are still there.
Nah, ya gotta go full 3rd grader and just pile it at your feet to drop a proper deuce.
As somebody who had to scotch brite only 20 burnt boards for a shelf, I have to say that this thing is freakin cool! The burnt caster really got me, Funny video man. (even if there wasn't a single propane accessories joke)
i tried a lot of different brushes when i was making some burnt beams for my house. the winner was a toilet brush with the handle cut off chucked up in a drill. best 3 dollars i ever spent.
in forges, having a cone shaped nozzle/diffuser helps stabilize the flame. Or stick it into the chamber and it does the same thing. They don't like to run in open air like that.
Just burned and scrapped 10 boards. This will save so much time in the long run. Your variety of skills coming together in symphony was super cool to watch! Great work :)
You do the kind of projects that we all tell ourselves we'll get around to. Great video as always!
This is a whole ass burnt board factory! Well done as always
i love your stuff dude, big underrated channel
XD Holy shit I just saw the thumbnail and scrolled past it at first thinking 'THat seems like a project Cranktown would make'. Came back to it and was like Sweeeeeeet.
Yup, I skipped past it multiple times before it was ol' Cranky. Seemed a bit too much like some of the high end fad stuff like epoxy waterfall tables or some such at first. But alas that's on me for being a snob.
Another great achievement by Crankyown City!
I regret I have but one dinger to give.
Wholesome energy, best channel on RUclips. Keep it going man, you're doing great!
For a proto type is not bad.
You can also add some roller with sand paper to push and pull the wood.
and also do it be the sides.
To make the brushing system better, some spring and a jaw would be great (with a chain maybe? or triple gear.)
to finish it off, a pre paint pre system would be nice.
The fastest and easiest way to send difficult numeric data is to send it as strings, so assuming you are using a C at both ends, create the string using a sprintf() statement, and then on the receiver use sscanf() to get the number out. This solves the problems of all the different representations of bit and byte orders. It’s less efficient, in that it needs more transmitted bytes on the RS232 line to carry the data, but that loss of efficiency is more than made up for by the gain of sanity of the programmer.
Fun fact: turn the clock back a few years, financial arithmetic with big numbers was done using character arithmetic, just like you would write numbers down on paper back at school, because it was guaranteed accurate, no rounding errors. Floating point can be terrible.
Get rid of the cable and put feeder wheels on either side of the track. Power one of them and make that your variable speed. Reverse the brushes so they're also in a pulling fashion. Put the feed wheel in between the fire and brushes. You could really cut down on set up since you just be able to start them one after the other
“Thermally Modified Wood” is the modern version of this i think.
Granted i need to grab data but i bet the nasties
made by the Pyrolysis of the Woods surface (look up “Pyrolysis Oil” and “Creosote” for a good idea on what probably forms on the surface, the latter was often coal though so ✨bonus nasties✨). So either thermally modifying it, or pressure treating it with pyrolysis oil or similar nasties should work!
(Haven’t watched the video yet so I’ll check and delete this if need be oof, no harm intended!)
Cranktown City is my Spirit Animal.
When I see these great builds that are only practical for making videos it makes me think I need a RUclips channel to support my hobbies.
Same.
But to be fair, I have the sense he lives in an area with tons of potential clients who want these fences.
Love the looking straight into the sun shot 12:04 ish
for feeding the boards, instead of a winch setup use like a baseball pitching machine setup with wheels that grip and move the board, both infeed and out so you dont have to touch it at all.
to help mitigate brush marks, i saw gaps between the bristles and you had all of them lined up exactly the same, if you offset them a little bit it might help
also if you build fences for a living now, maybe do build time lapses and post those on a second channel, i always see channels thats just time lapses of yard cleanup and stuff like that with millions of views
Regarding the floats/doubles from LinuxCNC to Arduino, could you use two decimals, seperated by a decimal point? Or just a "key" such as "D123" for the decimal and "F321", then on the Arduino just post-process them into 123.321? Janky? Yes. On-par with the theme of the channel? Meh, close 'nuff!
This tbh. Bend the brain around what a radix is and the rest will fall into place.
Could be an issue on LinuxCNC part. But as long as you can do some basic math, you multiply the number on LinuxCNC by say 32768 (2^15), divide it by same number on arduino. 2^x numbers are for fast division on arduino, because it is just bit shifting in registers. Though to make float out of it quickly you would need to construct some fancy union type and cast it to float... Meh CPU cycles are cheap these days, use fuckin better microcontroller for more speed lol.
That's kind of how I was trying to do it already, my issue now is that the arduino is recieveing the data(i only say that because the rt light turns on at the interval i am sending it), but I seem unable to use it for anything.
Through some dumb tango of starting the machine and opening the serial monitor in the right order, I was able to see the data being printed from the arduino on the serial monitor, which makes me think the serial port is too busy or something. I dunno it all feels like some dumb oversight on my part
@@cranktowncitymay have issues trying to run the serial monitor while linuxcnc also has the port open.
Can you post your code anywhere? This kind of dumb is my day job at the moment, happy to help out if I can though I don't claim to be an expert.
You might have some luck opening up a second serial port (in software) just to help you debug your serial link.
So you can serial read on the default, then send it out on serial1 with a USB to serial dongle.
There's another post here about using structs to get your data across that may be what you're missing.
You need to assemble the bytes back into the double or float on the Arduino.
You're probably also going to want some way of syncing the Arduino and the PC. So if you miss a byte you're not permanently out of sync.
It's total overkill but it might be easier(possibly) if you're using an esp32 or similar powerful with lots of ram Arduino to use something like json to ship your data over. Python speaks it easily and there's librarys in Arduino for it. Might make packing and unpacking variables easier than doing it yourself.
@@cranktowncity First of all, mind you, Arduino UNO has NO DOUBLE, only float, when you write double it uses a float under the hood.
Also arduino UNO uses software emulation to do float and double math, that may be very extremely slow.
Serial 9600 8n1 means: 9600 baud, every message is 1 start baud (mandatory), 8 baud for data, No parity, 1 stop baud. 1 baud == 1 bit, so basically you use 10 baud to send 8 bit of data, aka 1 byte. 9600 baud == 960 BYTE/s
Arduino UNO and all the others can safely run at 921600baud, aka 92160 BYTE/s or 9 KiB/s
Serial is FULL DUPLEX, means you can transmit and receive at the same time, full speed. HALF DUPLEX (like walkie talkie) means you can only transmit or receive, so you have come up with a way to divide send or receive. SIMPLEX (GPS, TV, Radio) you only receive or transmit.
the most efficient way should be that you simply send the binary representation on the wire, now, you may have issue with Endianess (imagine a 4 byte number, one systems save it as A B C D, the other as D C B A. Should not be a problem with UNO, ESP and STM) and that a int size is different (int is GENERALLY 8 byte on 64bit machine, 4 on 32 bit, 2 on 8... yeaaaa!), so use int64_t and friends from stdint.h
i've wanted to make something like this for so long. i'm glad someone did it first so i can see what problems they ran into :)
Nice! Always a joy seeing you hack together some contraption.
Great video! I've done a bit of yakisugi with manual methods but would definitely build some sort of machine for building fences/cladding, etc.
One thing I found useful was the plastic fibre abrasive wheels you can get. They come in different abrasive grades as well as width, bristle length, etc. One advantage is they can be switched round if they develop curves in the bristles. They also get into the soft wood, leaving the burnt resin proud.
You could also use a toothed chain to push the boards through.
Great proof of concept though, would love to see Mk 2.
Now that's a fine contraption, sir. A proper brush choice, if I may say from experience. My solution was a threaded rod and a big box store weed burner on the driveway for my cedar pickets, but only because I'm short on time, money, and subscribers. Love the vibe, editing, and creativity. See ya soon.
So good! Thanks for taking us along 👍
Definitely worth a dinger!!
Still one of the best channels i ever did subscribe to. Love your videos and your projects. ❤
Well that looks a lot nicer than any of *my* char wood projects.
A "TaaDaa"!!😊
Beautiful outcome on the fence! Can't wait for the next one!!
Dang Dog that's quite the little Toaster Oven you got going there, can double as the Pizza oven on lunch break and after hours
The whole time I was thinking that by the time he finishes he could have been long finished manually doing the wood, but then I thought, what would be fun about that? lol this channel!
I've been migrating to RISCV based stuff; cost goes an order of magnitude, sometimes two, *down* and everything is tiny as well as open designs.
Epic build man. Love the fired look.
I would have put a couple sets of rubber tires that pinch the boards from both sides driven off wiper motors or something to pull/push the board through
Another great one! Thanks!
Yaki Soba wood burning, got it!
Awesome video. I'm always amazed how things turn out in your projects. Absolutely perfect mix of an utter chaos and well thought out plan. Thank you very much for all the entertainment.
Cant believe i didnt find ur channel earlier! Loving ur projects
Glad to see the bar has been raised massively again. This is as over engineered as it could be, but damn it's neat. Great job as always.
Wow. This one looks like it turned out very nicely. Congrats!
Super satisfying how well it worked, wonder if wire brush or nylon might fair better.
Great show. Nice fence at the end. I wish you would have gotten back to the icicle machine, over the winter.
All your projects are just so good!
Best channel on RUclips man.
Excellent project! Great video. Wood came out great.
Fence looks awesome, nice work!
You use Arduino because you make do with common tools - an excellent skill to exercise! Thanks again for sharing, been looking forward to your videos for a couple of years now :)
Awesome job dude keep the videos coming it's always a great day when I get a notification that you got a new video up
Awesome! Id like to see 2 sets of teeth on either side of the track, in front of the fire and then after the brushes that semi bite into the sides and move it forward. As long as you feed the next board in to the first set of teeth then it will push the board out to a pile. If the board is mounted in a frame and the sides dont get seen then teeth marks dont matter.
should make the feed like a car wash conveyor. a little foot that pushes the board then loops down right in front of the burner. you just need to pull it through the end by hand from the other side of the brushes
Everything time Cranktown says “I’m just going to weld this in right here”, take a drink. 😂
That worked really well. Good job!
Jumpsuit Dr Venture now.
Speedsuit, please.
I built a concrete jig to stand three 2x10s vertically, like a big chimney stack. It roared, very fun
Your videos are great regardless of any sound issues. I am likely old enough to be your father but I still want to be like you when I grow up. But according to my wife that will never happen so your job is safe.
The consistency for the consistent process, is what I find impressive. Don’t think ya’ll’d achieve that, doing it manually. Then there’s the part where y’all probably saved losing your mind, doing it manually…
Brilliant!
An awesome idea man and you nailed it IMO. Cheers 🍻
Another great project!
Looks good
Instead of the winch how about a set of toothed gears that grab the edges of the board and pull it through. One set on the infeed, one on the outfeed.
I would have used a chain conveyor underneath with pawls to push the wood through. That way they can drop out the end and you could theoretically have a stack on the in feed to make manual oversight even less.
i use that a lot on my projects. its a great way to protect wood from the elements. love your videos brov. all i do all day is make shit - cut, grind, weld, 3d print, cnc, drill, burn, turn, wire, solder, tape, glue, program, twist, and now im clickin subscribe. :) also i might be able to help you out with that cnc serial issue you mentioned. i'm gonna rewind the vid and look into it.
and are you using C++ or python?
My man doing industrial engineering in the post apocalypse
This thing is awesome!
Well done 👍
Here we call them "overalls". Mine snaps together, there is no zipper slowing me down and putting me in danger!
No coupler to bell the burner end?
& have you ever seen the paint removing "whips" for drills? The wire is stout but free to give against a surface b/c they are connected loosely with an eye. Much more durable than a wire wheel and doesn't cut as much either, it bounces, like how people always wallop themselves when nunchucks fly back. That motion, then rotation pulls it under and the contact is more along the length. Unlike a wire wheel that has all the pressure at the wire's tip so it cuts and gouges till it bends enough to pull through.
Don't fault you on the brush to get it going, but they're burnt already.
RE Floats on Arduino, Arduino's serial has trouble with sending and receiving floats,. You'll have to read them from the serial port as two integers, one either side of the decimal point, using something like the stoi() function. Then you can write a function that can turn your two ints into a float.
I'm glad to see you're using propane and propane accessories. Butane is a bastard gas.
this is epic and i love your channel
Bump!
Is there a reason you chose a stop/start movement over a continuous design? The finished product looks great, but gut instinct suggests you might be able to achieve a more even finish/require less post-processing, while being able to circumvent a lot of the code/programming.
The winch probably goes too fast.
You should have put your burner and brush on a rail so the board is stationary and you do one side at a time. Could make a simple pipe with a metal gate roller wheel to run on the tubing as a cheap and easy rail system. Then your brush, and burner could be on a roller type gear system that spins it as you move it along the rail powered by your actuator.
Just an idea but you could mount driven rollers with Coleman inserts to run down the sides of the boards for a more accurately timed feed rate.
I reckon you would need to add Serial output support to LinuxCNC yourself (Assuming nobody has done that yet) and run a custom build. Doesnt seem like it supports anything that would allow to accomplish that out of the box.
Rather impressive device. Ta da!
Dont send floats or doubles, just send a fixed point value of the axis value instead. Essentially you just multiply with the precision you need, if you need 3 decimal places then multiply with 1000. Example: 152.123 would be sent as 152123. then divide by 1000.0 to go back to your float. (either this is simple or just the same, i have not actually used linuxCNC.. but it's good knowhow either way)
howbout some motorized rollers/wheels underneath every couple feet? then you can just let it run and keep feedin boards... no need to keep rewinding the winch... this build is hella beautiful tho, brov. love it, and enjoyed watchin you brainstorm n make it happen. cheers!
I love you man
I wonder if "Make It Extreme" watches your channel. The end to their "Process of making a rust removal machine" looked awfully familiar :)
Man love your videos
Please make a watercutter, and also, love the videos. So much fun
Oh I've definitely wanted to! Thanks a lot!
"OH SHIT!!" LMAO. Love this channel.
you might be my spirit animal, brov...
Me after the intro:
Sup man.
Love your innovative vids
How about running the brushes in the other direction, could they pull the wood through? Or like a planer, since you can make different sized gears.
This might be the most get shit done machine i have ever saw
I think .... I think I need a jump suit!
You're an influencer!
I made it lol
So good dude 👍
🤣
That wheel got me !!
Well played sir , well played indeed
#chefkisses 🤌🏼😅
How about having spur gears on the short edges either side of the planks to drive the planks through the system. They’d probably need to spring loaded.