Couldn't agree more - when is a prisoner exchange not a prisoner exchange - when Pu7in and Turkey is involved. I have to wonder WHY Turkey is supposedly in NATO, when all it appears to do is block other countries joining NATO unless it is in Turkeys interests. Given why Turkey wanted to join NATO I would have expected more, in respect to Ru55ias invasion of Ukraine: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_in_NATO#Relations_with_NATO_member_states BACKGROUND - Turkey sought to become a member of NATO because it wanted a security guarantee against a potential invasion by the Soviet Union, which made several overtures towards control of the Straits of the Dardanelles.[3] In March 1945, the Soviets terminated the Treaty of Friendship and Non Aggression to which the Soviet Union and Turkey had agreed on in 1925.[4] In June 1945, the Soviets demanded the establishment of Soviet bases on the Straits in exchange for a reinstatement of this treaty.[4] The Turkish President Ismet Inönu and the Speaker of the Parliament responded decisively, avowing Turkey's readiness to defend itself.[4]
Turkey arranged this deal and managed to get good credit for it, but now Erdoğan has to keep the word of not releasing them until the end of the conflict. As hard and unfair as it might seem I believe it would be easier for prisoners in Russia to escape or being exchanged than this particular group being returned earlier.
They were a sorry state I prayed for them to surrender At least they have their health and their lives They must be under a oath not to try to escape which as decent people im sure they will honour
@@davidr3382 Turkey joined over 70 years ago. You are in no position to question Turkey’s position in NATO. Besides they should be thankful that Turkey took them in, if it wasnt for Turkey they would have been rotting in some Russian prison by now!
These men are heroes, they held their positions against overwhelming Russian forces and at great cost to themselves. That gave Ukraine time to stabilize other regions. I cannot express my admiration and respect for these warriors enough. I only wish more of them are out of Russian custody. These five people will come home soon and see how the 3rd Brigade that they started has remained a powerful force in this war. They will be proud of their men and have regret that they were not able to participate in the coming victory themselves. Glory to Ukraine, victory is near.
Don’t you embarrassed with SS symbols of this guy regiment? And have you ever heard that Glory to Ukraine is Bandera slogan whose supporters were deeply involved in muss murder of Poles, Jews, Russians and Ukranians?
Technically, by being in Turkey they also avoid being sent to the front line again and potentially killed/wounded. That's an alright reward for fighting in the plant for months.
@@shurely2559 I agree. They're not Free until Russia is DEFEATED. Turkey is a partner with putler. Don't TRUST Turkey at all till NEW Progressive Leaders are voted in Turkey and DETACH themselves from the influence of Putler.
All the Azovstal defenders are true heroes of the free world. They held their positions even after being encircled and enabled their brothers/sisters in arms in other regions to establish defenses which saved the lives of thousands of soldiers and civilians at the ultimate costs to themselves. All Ukrainian POWs must come home safely soon especially the Azov warriors being tortured in Russian captivity. Stay strong and safe, brave defenders of freedom. Together to Victory. Slava Ukraini. Heroyam Slava
They are still prisoners, but in Turkey. Then you remember that Turkey is still a NATO member.. Also that Turkey is in reality another autocratic and corrupt partner of Russia. Turkey is playing a lot of cards, this will not end well for them.
The Russians must really be scared of these guys. I think they would do better worrying about the other 40m Ukrainians who seem to be doing a good job.
I find it unfair towards regular POWs actually imprisoned by the enemy, to compare what is technically banishment in a third-party state to the kind of hellish captivity that is the reality of Ukrainian servicemen in Russian hands. Palamar and other Azov commanders were released from Russian imprisonment following the agreement reached with the help of Turkey and which they themselves also agreed to, under the condition that they will be hosted by Turkey and not leave it while the war is ongoing. They are not behind bars, they are not starved, mistreated nor tortured. They have good living conditions, are provided with comfortable rooms, have good diet, sports equipment, good medical care etc. This had been confirmed by Vasyl Bondar, the Ukrainian ambassador to Turkey. He also said: "What is limited, of course, is their movement and free access to communications with the outside world". They are allowed to have their families visit them regularly. I imagine they can't just be roaming the country freely all the time because they would put themselves in the risk of assassination by Russian agents. And they are probably prohibited from contacting the troops they used to command etc. which could've been considered a form of military activity. I can also imagine very well Russian side required they would be put under oversight to prevent any possible attempts of flight. Even if they refused their families' visits in sign of solidarity with real POWs in Russia, that was their choice entirely, and I don't really see how it's helping the said POWs. It's not like Russians allow them any access to information about the surrounding world and current events, so the said POWs won't even know about it. It surely is making their families very sad, affecting their young children in particular.
@@littledikkins2253 thank you! So it’s an agreement between Russia and Ukraine and Turkey is kinda in the middle? Turkey is the peacemaker, so to speak? I was wondering why Turkey would take them prisoner, now I think I understand. Thanks.
That was the condition for them to be object of a swap. These are special soldiers for good or for worse. I cannot swallow that Wolfsangel. I hope these young and brave soldiers are simply ignorant of the history of ww2, as many in the eastern Europe are (I was one, because I'm not young anymore).
З прийдешньою Перемогою над ОРДЛО ці Герої скоро будуть вдома! СЛАВА УКРАЇНІ!!!! 🔱 😎 With the coming VICTORY over the ORCS these Heros shall soon be home! SLAVA UKRAINI! 🔱 😎
Muscovites went mad after their solid defense, so in order to not let them return to Ukrainian lines and to contribute the Ukrainian cause such formula is invented. These people are not our prisoners.
Not a great situation but at least they are being treated well. Much better than in Russian POW captivity. Their greatest frustration will be not being able to fight with their comrades and knowing that some of them are still in Russian captivity.
The reason Turkey won't release them is because they are commanders and of those released many have gone back to the fight. I believe Ukraine is also holding on to some commanders who are professional soldiers. They also won't speak about what happened to them in Russia for fear of retaliation against POWs in Russia.
While not an ideal solution, it beats not being released & still rotting in ruzzia. These are the terms they agreed to in order to be released & Turkey simply facilitated it.
Russia only needs prisoners that it has interest to swap. These are too tough and dangerous to be let free to Ukraine. The alternative being indefinite imprisonment and very possible death for such men (do they really had to use the Wolfsangel!), and given such prisoners are precious enough to be used in a swap, Turkey's intervention made possible a solution where they were swapped but not to Ukraine. Turkey not fulfilling its commitment would make impossible such deals in the future.
Perhaps the finer points of prisoner exchange are lost on me, but I do not understand "why" Türkiye is involved in this? Where did the Russian POWs go? Are the Russian prisoners being held in a 3rd party country, Italy, Germany France etc? Or, did they go back to Russia? And, how can you be leased but not freed? Why are they under arrest until the end of the war?
And please: What about "Redis" Denys prokopenko? Noone talks about him anymore... I followed the siege of mariupol and i believe this man is a damn hero, all of his man saying they wouldn´t made it even close to 86 days without him.
I still don't understand why Turkey won't let these guys go home...and who gets to decide when the end of the war is...? Some parts of this are just so confusing, so the Russians that were swapped for them, they go home or back into the military more likely, but the Ukrainian soldiers are stuck in Turkey under restricted movements...like wtf?!?!
No the Putler's Russhit's war criminals won't allow the international red cross to see them, only going on how the Ukrainian pow's look like when they are released and the condition of them in general . 🇺🇦
🤔...odd, but the agreement was that the Azov battalion Commanders will stay in Turkey until the war is over. Gosh, that could be a while...maybe another year. At least they're safe and won't have to go through that awful experience at the steel plant, but sure that Ukraine could use their expertise as Commanders. Their families surely miss them. 💙💛💙💛💙💛💙 🇺🇲 🇺🇦
On 16 May the Azovstal Brigade surrendered Starving and out of ammo But they showed the world Ukrainian steel We’ll remember like the Alamo Russians wanted a land bridge to Crimea And then push on to Odessa, the Black Sea prize But Mariupol held out for three months And Russian momentum died
don't talk nonsense. Russia released the soldiers only on the condition that they stay in Turkey. What are you talking nonsense about? Besides, Ukraine is not a member of NATO. therefore, Turkey is not a NATO ally either.
They weren't 'exchanged', they're being allowed Geneva Convention conditions in exchange for the Russians sent to Russia; as a signatory Russia was already legally required to provide such conditions, therefore the 'exchange' deal is proof that Russia was illegally denying Geneva Conventions to the Ukrainians.
Muscovites went mad after their solid defense, so in order to not let them return to Ukrainian lines and to contribute the Ukrainian cause such formula is invented. These people are not our prisoners. Come on Kraut, if we release these folks, Muscovites will never do another "exchange" and execute other prisoners as they give no value to their own.
Muscovites went mad after their solid defense, so in order to not let them return to Ukrainian lines and to contribute the Ukrainian cause such formula is invented. These people are not our prisoners.
Putler and his fellows embody every aspect of fascism. They are collectivists from head to bone, they created a crony capitalism, they made opportunist clergy their allies...
They should be free if they were in an exchange...then the Russians who were exchanged for them should still be held captive in another nation
Couldn't agree more - when is a prisoner exchange not a prisoner exchange - when Pu7in and Turkey is involved. I have to wonder WHY Turkey is supposedly in NATO, when all it appears to do is block other countries joining NATO unless it is in Turkeys interests.
Given why Turkey wanted to join NATO I would have expected more, in respect to Ru55ias invasion of Ukraine:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_in_NATO#Relations_with_NATO_member_states
BACKGROUND - Turkey sought to become a member of NATO because it wanted a security guarantee against a potential invasion by the Soviet Union, which made several overtures towards control of the Straits of the Dardanelles.[3] In March 1945, the Soviets terminated the Treaty of Friendship and Non Aggression to which the Soviet Union and Turkey had agreed on in 1925.[4] In June 1945, the Soviets demanded the establishment of Soviet bases on the Straits in exchange for a reinstatement of this treaty.[4] The Turkish President Ismet Inönu and the Speaker of the Parliament responded decisively, avowing Turkey's readiness to defend itself.[4]
I suppose that it was part of the agreement so to let them leave Russia. They are better off in Turkey, even if they still prisoners.
Turkey arranged this deal and managed to get good credit for it, but now Erdoğan has to keep the word of not releasing them until the end of the conflict.
As hard and unfair as it might seem I believe it would be easier for prisoners in Russia to escape or being exchanged than this particular group being returned earlier.
They were a sorry state I prayed for them to surrender
At least they have their health and their lives
They must be under a oath not to try to escape which as decent people im sure they will honour
@@davidr3382 Turkey joined over 70 years ago. You are in no position to question Turkey’s position in NATO. Besides they should be thankful that Turkey took them in, if it wasnt for Turkey they would have been rotting in some Russian prison by now!
My prayers for the safe return of these prisoners to their Families.
These men are heroes, they held their positions against overwhelming Russian forces and at great cost to themselves. That gave Ukraine time to stabilize other regions. I cannot express my admiration and respect for these warriors enough. I only wish more of them are out of Russian custody. These five people will come home soon and see how the 3rd Brigade that they started has remained a powerful force in this war. They will be proud of their men and have regret that they were not able to participate in the coming victory themselves. Glory to Ukraine, victory is near.
she's beautiful mother. God bless Ukrainian military and people 🙏. GLORY TO Ukraine 🙏
Don’t you embarrassed with SS symbols of this guy regiment? And have you ever heard that Glory to Ukraine is Bandera slogan whose supporters were deeply involved in muss murder of Poles, Jews, Russians and Ukranians?
No, she's not... she's a nazi scum, same like her son
May they all come home soon, safe and sound.
Thank you for this report. They are still prisoners, but they are FAR better off in Turkey than in Russia. I wish them well . . . Slava Ukraini!
Technically, by being in Turkey they also avoid being sent to the front line again and potentially killed/wounded. That's an alright reward for fighting in the plant for months.
To these men they gladly would go to front lines to them it's not a reward they hate not being at front with their men and friends
@@shurely2559 I agree. They're not Free until Russia is DEFEATED. Turkey is a partner with putler. Don't TRUST Turkey at all till NEW Progressive Leaders are voted in Turkey and DETACH themselves from the influence of Putler.
All the Azovstal defenders are true heroes of the free world. They held their positions even after being encircled and enabled their brothers/sisters in arms in other regions to establish defenses which saved the lives of thousands of soldiers and civilians at the ultimate costs to themselves. All Ukrainian POWs must come home safely soon especially the Azov warriors being tortured in Russian captivity. Stay strong and safe, brave defenders of freedom. Together to Victory. Slava Ukraini. Heroyam Slava
Imagine shilling for Neo-N@zis like this😂
Just look at their logo and insignia
they are cowards,cowards surrender
❤❤, god bless azov fighters
You do know that most Azov fighters are actual nazis? Not the imaginary ones the Russian propaganda tries to paint over everyone.
Ok why are they so closely monitored? I thought they where free?!
They are still prisoners, but in Turkey. Then you remember that Turkey is still a NATO member.. Also that Turkey is in reality another autocratic and corrupt partner of Russia. Turkey is playing a lot of cards, this will not end well for them.
The Russians must really be scared of these guys. I think they would do better worrying about the other 40m Ukrainians who seem to be doing a good job.
being in turkey is much better then being in russian pow camp thats forsure
I find it unfair towards regular POWs actually imprisoned by the enemy, to compare what is technically banishment in a third-party state to the kind of hellish captivity that is the reality of Ukrainian servicemen in Russian hands.
Palamar and other Azov commanders were released from Russian imprisonment following the agreement reached with the help of Turkey and which they themselves also agreed to, under the condition that they will be hosted by Turkey and not leave it while the war is ongoing. They are not behind bars, they are not starved, mistreated nor tortured. They have good living conditions, are provided with comfortable rooms, have good diet, sports equipment, good medical care etc. This had been confirmed by Vasyl Bondar, the Ukrainian ambassador to Turkey. He also said: "What is limited, of course, is their movement and free access to communications with the outside world". They are allowed to have their families visit them regularly. I imagine they can't just be roaming the country freely all the time because they would put themselves in the risk of assassination by Russian agents. And they are probably prohibited from contacting the troops they used to command etc. which could've been considered a form of military activity. I can also imagine very well Russian side required they would be put under oversight to prevent any possible attempts of flight.
Even if they refused their families' visits in sign of solidarity with real POWs in Russia, that was their choice entirely, and I don't really see how it's helping the said POWs. It's not like Russians allow them any access to information about the surrounding world and current events, so the said POWs won't even know about it. It surely is making their families very sad, affecting their young children in particular.
Pardon my ignorance, by why aren’t they being freed completely?
It was part of the release agreement - you don't want your enemies to get hold of their best and most charismatic commanders after all
Turkey agreed to keep them until after this war is over.
They were given by Russia to Turkey on the condition they are not let free (which would mean them taking arms).
@@littledikkins2253 thank you! So it’s an agreement between Russia and Ukraine and Turkey is kinda in the middle? Turkey is the peacemaker, so to speak? I was wondering why Turkey would take them prisoner, now I think I understand. Thanks.
That was the condition for them to be object of a swap. These are special soldiers for good or for worse. I cannot swallow that Wolfsangel. I hope these young and brave soldiers are simply ignorant of the history of ww2, as many in the eastern Europe are (I was one, because I'm not young anymore).
Just thank God he's alive,he wont fight again which means he'll be back,than burying him.
what God ? Tehre are some thousands ! Dude !
@@MakeSomeNoisePlaylists we believe in one God,I dont know any other apart from the one you and I believe in.
SLAVA ZSU SLAVA AZOV FOREVER 🇲🇫 🇺🇦
At least he is treated humanly in Turkiya, unlike his comrades in Russia ,Tortured and starved .We've all seen the pictures.
It’s insane
З прийдешньою Перемогою над ОРДЛО ці Герої скоро будуть вдома! СЛАВА УКРАЇНІ!!!! 🔱 😎
With the coming VICTORY over the ORCS these Heros shall soon be home! SLAVA UKRAINI! 🔱 😎
Russian POWs must also fill a similar/proportional quota in Turkey before any exchanges. Ukraine must insist on it.
God bless these heroes! True warriors! Glory and complete victory to Ukraine! Heroyam slava!
God bless Ukraine and all of her fighters trying to expel Russian invaders!
Held by who? Turkey? This is so strange 😕
Muscovites went mad after their solid defense, so in order to not let them return to Ukrainian lines and to contribute the Ukrainian cause such formula is invented. These people are not our prisoners.
Not a great situation but at least they are being treated well. Much better than in Russian POW captivity. Their greatest frustration will be not being able to fight with their comrades and knowing that some of them are still in Russian captivity.
The reason Turkey won't release them is because they are commanders and of those released many have gone back to the fight. I believe Ukraine is also holding on to some commanders who are professional soldiers. They also won't speak about what happened to them in Russia for fear of retaliation against POWs in Russia.
Turkey is a ally of Ruzzia That's why they hold Ukrainians hostage...
warrior!
These men should have been freed already. Let them free NOW.
This is beyond me - Turkey a NATO member keeps POWs of Russia on its soil. How is that even possible?
Its shitty 'reporting" ..purely sensationalism
Ukraine dont have conditions to receive POWs in large numbers... At least we know Turkey treat them well so don't worry rusky...
Unlike Russia...
While not an ideal solution, it beats not being released & still rotting in ruzzia. These are the terms they agreed to in order to be released & Turkey simply facilitated it.
Russia only needs prisoners that it has interest to swap. These are too tough and dangerous to be let free to Ukraine. The alternative being indefinite imprisonment and very possible death for such men (do they really had to use the Wolfsangel!), and given such prisoners are precious enough to be used in a swap, Turkey's intervention made possible a solution where they were swapped but not to Ukraine. Turkey not fulfilling its commitment would make impossible such deals in the future.
Perhaps the finer points of prisoner exchange are lost on me, but I do not understand "why" Türkiye is involved in this? Where did the Russian POWs go? Are the Russian prisoners being held in a 3rd party country, Italy, Germany France etc? Or, did they go back to Russia? And, how can you be leased but not freed? Why are they under arrest until the end of the war?
And please: What about "Redis" Denys prokopenko? Noone talks about him anymore...
I followed the siege of mariupol and i believe this man is a damn hero, all of his man saying they wouldn´t made it even close to 86 days without him.
He is in Turkey too.
I still don't understand why Turkey won't let these guys go home...and who gets to decide when the end of the war is...? Some parts of this are just so confusing, so the Russians that were swapped for them, they go home or back into the military more likely, but the Ukrainian soldiers are stuck in Turkey under restricted movements...like wtf?!?!
Klsse respect jeni Hero per popullin e Juaj , slava okraina 👊👊🇽🇰🇺🇦🇺🇦
Interesting!
Does International Red Cross is checking on Ukrainian POW in Russia?
No the Putler's Russhit's war criminals won't allow the international red cross to see them, only going on how the Ukrainian pow's look like when they are released and the condition of them in general . 🇺🇦
The most important thing is they r alive and well... hopefully they will release soon🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️Glory to brave heroes of Ukraine 🙌🤞
🤔...odd, but the agreement was that the Azov battalion Commanders will stay in Turkey until the war is over. Gosh, that could be a while...maybe another year.
At least they're safe and won't have to go through that awful experience at the steel plant, but sure that Ukraine could use their expertise as Commanders.
Their families surely miss them.
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A gilded cage is still just a cage.
#StandWithUkraine 🇺🇦
*Все це Україна!* 👍
On 16 May the Azovstal Brigade surrendered
Starving and out of ammo
But they showed the world Ukrainian steel
We’ll remember like the Alamo
Russians wanted a land bridge to Crimea
And then push on to Odessa, the Black Sea prize
But Mariupol held out for three months
And Russian momentum died
SLAVA UKRAINI❤🔥
Honestly can’t wait for the movie about what happened there.
amazing NATO member imprisons allied forces
don't talk nonsense. Russia released the soldiers only on the condition that they stay in Turkey. What are you talking nonsense about? Besides, Ukraine is not a member of NATO. therefore, Turkey is not a NATO ally either.
They weren't 'exchanged', they're being allowed Geneva Convention conditions in exchange for the Russians sent to Russia; as a signatory Russia was already legally required to provide such conditions, therefore the 'exchange' deal is proof that Russia was illegally denying Geneva Conventions to the Ukrainians.
“Under the terms of the prisoner RELEASE”… Some “release” there Turkey 🦃… 🤦♂️
What a disgrace to humanity this country is.
Muscovites went mad after their solid defense, so in order to not let them return to Ukrainian lines and to contribute the Ukrainian cause such formula is invented. These people are not our prisoners.
Come on Kraut, if we release these folks, Muscovites will never do another "exchange" and execute other prisoners as they give no value to their own.
don't talk nonsense. Russia released the soldiers only on the condition that they stay in Turkey. What are you talking nonsense about?
So why're they held captive in Turkey?
As part of the exchange of prisoners of war Ukraine agreed to their being held in Turkey until the end of this war.
This men deserve to be tried for their war crimes‼️✌️🇷🇺✌️🇷🇺✌️🇷🇺✌️🇷🇺✌️
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@@San-nah YES, AND PROUD TO BE! LOLOLOO
that part at the end really should have been at the start. this is so emotionally manipulative and disrespectful to the intelligence of your audience.
Why are they in Turkey??
W t f....wats up with that.
What's wrong with Turkey??! They should be on NATO side!!! 🤬
Muscovites went mad after their solid defense, so in order to not let them return to Ukrainian lines and to contribute the Ukrainian cause such formula is invented. These people are not our prisoners.
don't talk nonsense. Russia released the soldiers only on the condition that they stay in Turkey. What are you talking nonsense about?
Is Turkey still a NATO ally?
don't talk nonsense. Russia released the soldiers only on the condition that they stay in Turkey. What are you talking nonsense about?
With the wolfsangel symbol . Who had this symbol too ? Yeah the 2. SS panzerdivision das reich
This video is glorifying Nazism. This channel is glorifying Nazism. Think it over.
Putler and his fellows embody every aspect of fascism. They are collectivists from head to bone, they created a crony capitalism, they made opportunist clergy their allies...
Turn him loose.