@@DaveDoesFitness 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️it’s kinda baffling, thanks for making solid content and giving us the low-down! Looking at a few options with the new Apple Watch Ultra and Fenix 8 coming out
Exactly! All the “Fenix 8 Pro” videos are annoying. Somebody explain to the AIs that the “Pro” version won’t launch until around 18 months after the base Fenix 8 (assuming the standard timeline).
I used to have an OLED and transitioned to MIPS. I am happy for you all. But I guess I'll keep mine for as long as Garmin supports it OR release a better one with MIPS. Being able to stay 15 days tracking my activity and using maps when hiking 10h a day in the alps without charging is something I am not ready to let go as for now. Maybe if I get lazy and don't need all of that in the future... but for now I need more something I can trust over what looks nice 😀
These seem to be the small changes to finally get a garmin. I was focused on a used epix 2 pro, but i often take calls with my watch when i dont have my phone right beside me. Even tho i had it turned off and had no plan for an e sim, a cellular Connection would be great in case of emergency. Garmin watches last a long time , so the ability to take an emergency call when my phone battery runs out would be a nice touch.
But that would probably kill the battery as we know and praise from Garmin ;/ I was hoping for the same when the series 7 came out, and now we're ahead of series 8. I feel, like they won't go this way - yet.
@@JarosawTabor true, but just like on a apple watch or a phone you could turn cellular on and off as u like. Therefore limiting battery usage only to yout liking.
I'd say wait until the announcement to see if there are any other killer features, but yeah an Epix Pro is most definitely good for the foreseeable future! Thanks for watching! 💪🏃
I’ll stick with my epix pro thanks, also rumours of Garmin starting a subscription for some services will only push people to other brands including me
With regards to the "SCUBA" mode, yes. You seem to be very correct. NDL (No decompression limit), TTS (Time to surface), Air (gas used), and the sidebar with the arrows indication going up are all scuba diving terms and features. Compass also makes sense, current depth in the middle, and max depth indicated as well. My guess is that this isn't going to be a cheap watch, as the descent MK3 is over 1k USD. However, there doesn't seem to be a tank pressure sensor in the menu shown, which is the main feature of Descent Mk3i (special low frequency transceiver).
Thanks Dave. Having watched the video I will buy the Fenix 7 Pro 💪 I prefer a sports watch to cellphone on my wrist 😊otherwise I would buy an apple watch and not a sports watch
Excited for the dive feature but not sure how that would work with speaker and microphone. I love the Descent line, hopefully they keep it up for the professionals. Other feature that I hope they integrate soon are for home automation, like turning everything off when you leave home for a run. There are loads more possibilities if they include ways to integrate to threads/matter/zigbee.
MIC and Speaker !!!! hell yeah ! thats what I have been waiting to upgrade, I would say that to blow the Apple watch Ultra out of the water a LTE would be the route to go but at this point I would take the MIc with voice assist ( I am assuming Alexa ) I would be fine . In summery : Amoled display , MIc to answer phone calls and send text and flashlight I am IN !! thanks for the review !
Hmm I see what you guys are saying about OLED and battery life so I guess we'll wait for some more data. Mic and speaker, yes please. Also I hope they make more space for pre programmed workouts. When I upgraded from 645 to F7S, I couldn't download all my workouts onto it.
I'm curious as to what the new software features will be. LTE option with full cellular calling and texts on the watch would be awesome so we can leave the phone behind when working out. If they do I just hope it won't be like the sad attempt they did with the 945 LTE model.
Thank you for the great video, my fav combo is coming back with Fenix 8 (feni6 pro with ember band). I am hesitant to pull the trigger right away, they may come up with a pro version 3 months of initial release. Sold my Epix 2 Pro yesterday. Good timing.
Nice one, Dave - thanks for pointing out the highlights. The UI/graphics look good, and fine functions one could get used to, although I'll probably wait 'til the next gen to upgrade (can/should not use a wrist watch at work anyway 👨⚕😉)
Maybe basic dive functionality to compete with Apple Watch ? “Limited “ depth and without the technical features or air integration is my guess. (Descent MK3i owner here)
I’m surprised no one commented about the battery life. If the screen is different and now you have a speaker where you can talk like the Venu 3 and loud audible alarms I bet the battery will take a hit. The Venu 3 only has 3 days with always on display. This might be only 7-10 days max.
Damn! I just bought an Epix Pro Gen 2. The speaker and microphone is a good addition but I have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I never used it to make any phone calls. And Fenix 8 not being LTE sort of makes the addition semi useful. Great review though, thanks.
Hey Dave, thanks for the update, been waiting a while for the Fenix 8, if all correct and it does come with the updates you suggested, then I'll update my Fenix 6. See what happens. Cheers, M109
The scuba diving feature is usually in another series, the Descent models. Adding the scuba diving feature into the fenix series may mark the end of the descent series. This may also increase the price of the fenix 8 significantly. Hopefully they'll have different models, one with scuba diving features and one without.
Wow that's huge, I know they are combining the Epix into the Fenix, but if they discontinue the Descent at the same time that would be a big shakeup to their models
@@donnawetter1513 it's interesting that it says dive 40m at the back. Most recreational scuba divers can go down to 30m and technical divers can go way deeper. Thus the Descent MK3 has a max depth up to 200m and most basic dive watches has a minimum 100m max depth. I was guessing that perhaps it's for free diving, but free diving shouldn't have many of those data on screen, such as NDL, TTS, max depth. Only time will tell
So glad the algorithms found this video for me. For sure I'm gonna get the Fenix 8 small if it has OLED display, mic and speakers, as well as replies to messages on my phone. That is a dealbreaker for me after 7 years with Samsung watches and the reason I bought a Venu 3s last year. Super happy with it in total, but missing some features I want from the top of the line watches. However, the smart watch features are a must (though I don't care about installing 3rd party apps to control other gadgets or my car or whatever so a Garmin is good enough. I need the battery life and correct metrics that the smart watches does not have).
I think I’ll upgrade from my Fenix 6 Pro that I’ve had since 2020. The flashlight will be cool and the OLED too. I honestly am not running enough currently to need the MIP and would like the crisp look of the OLED with all the Garmin features.
Went from a 965 to a Coros Pace 3 and honestly have no regrets, it got to the point where the Amoled display was just to much and the battery didnt last.
The piece between start button and back button looks very similar to the one seen on the Descent MK3. To me , this means we are going to get diving capabilities. That is so cool ! A true all-round device very capable in air, land and sea much like a true Navy Seal's device. 💪 Two months ago we received an update having a new chat messenger from Garmin. Maybe it was just the first step introducing some sort of satellite connection like we've seen on Inreach devices. Wowww... that will be something to write home about and move Garmin way ahead in the first position when it comes to adventure and tactical features.
It looks like Garmin is finally getting motivated to make some big changes to these watches. Probably, not because of Apple, though that must be hurting a little, but because of the improvements on Samsung and Google's smartwatch platforms. It makes sense to make the MIPS the Enduro and rationalise the line to remove the Epix. Maybe we'll hear more later on that (LTE enabled Fenix 8 maybe?). This also seems to be what they are doing with their Edge devices. Adding a better screen while keeping a transflective screen with solar option for the endurance cyclists.
The diving would be a feature enough to update for me!!! I like what I see Aldo I would really want a updated way to charge it cause I really hate this way at the moment :(
That looks like a micro sim slot at the edge of the bezel between the play and lap button. Hopefully LTE available in the UK. They can have my money if so 😝
Looks like they eliminated the epix added a mic, and called it a day to me. And whatever it has software wise will make it to my epix pro, so thanks for the preview. Great vid
Personally, I was hoping that Garmin would change how the Fenix is charged! I’ve wasted so much time fiddling with the cable, making sure it’s in exactly the right position & depth for it to effing charge!!
I'm really happy with the fenix 7. Mic and speaker would be nice. Didn't see the need for it till I went skiing, and being able to have a phone call with out taking out a phone would be great, as you do get split up occasionally. One of those nice to have features that's useful couple of times a year. Improved speed and mapping would be nice. Doubt I'll upgrade though, they cost to much to upgrade every couple of years. I thought the torch would be a never used gimmick, I use it weekly. Not sure I want amoled over mips. Mips is easy to read in bright sunlight and saves battery life. Amoled looks better generally. But if it sacrifices battery life or readability no thanks. So have to see how that balances out in reviews. And FFS can we just get Google pay rather than Garmin pay. Its supported by hardly any banks anyway. Or at least give us the option. I hate the way gatlrmin and Samsung try and go their own apps, that require many dozens of external companies to work and just mess it up.
2-4 weeks of battery life is one of my most loved features in my Fenix 7x solar. The screen could be better, but at least it has touch. but better screen, will reduce batteri, and for me, its mostly a tough Long (battery) lasting watch with smart functions. If i wanted a watch with all the features, like awesome screen, mic and other stuff, i would (as Android user) go for the apple watch. With my Fenix 7, the worst thing is the swimming activity. It really sucks tracking swimming activity. The only way to track correct is counting lanes while swimming.
Why, why oled?? I want my MIP display. People who need an Amoled, the can go for the epix. If this is true, then it is a big mistake, and Garmin will lose a lot of first adapters, which would normally change to the newer modell, but now many will keep their Fenix 7.
Just got a used scratched fenix 6 pro for 175€. I guess I will maybe get a used 7x pro solar Saphire when all the used ones Hit the market. Then I have a small one for every day and a big one for outdoor Navigation.
@@DaveDoesFitness arrived today. I am very pleased and not broke as a bonus. The six pro looks very nice on my wirst and a lot of functions for now. Love the MIPS Disolay. Has a few scratched corners and the glass has also 2 small scratches. But less worrys of scratches now I guess haha. Skipped the overprotective caring cause it's new Phase for sure.
so is it actually an updated epix watch? where do i find the fenix parts because I thought the only big difference between epix and fenix was the display?:)
just received a fenix 7 pro in an exchange process - ive likely got no need to upgrade and even if i did it would be to the Enduro 3. for whatever reason I just prefer MIP over AMOLED, i dont think I will ever like an AMOLED as much as MIP good video bro 🤙
Dive features is interesting. It essentially kills rhe Descent line and theyve always said sive gear hws to go through more durability testing, which is why it was separate
Now that ive got what ive wanted for a long time which is a fenix level device with OLED display, not really sure what I want next from them apart from OLED displays on their GPSMAP lineup. There dosnt seem to be enough update over my Epix to upgrade.
I'd much rather have a camera than microphone and a speaker on my sports watch. LTE is also not needed. It would be cool to be able to send an SOS signal of some kind but that's it. I don't need my sports watch to become a full fledged smart watch. I need it to be good in mountains with super long battery life. And if I am nitpicking I'd love to have an Audible app on the Garmin Fenix :)
Check some of my older content. I have a video on how to get your audible library onto your watch. It's a bit of a process, but it's definitely worth it for those long runs!
Any change that noticeably reduces battery life without the ability to be turned off would be a deal breaker for me, and a reason to stay on the 7 Pro for as long as it keeps getting backported features from the 8.
AGREEEEEEED you got a sub bro. Every AI video I see, I skip. This one, couldn't click on fast enough. appreciate your work, and looking forward to picking up one of these! Can't decide which one yet, but it's gonna be one haha
Garmin is famous for using the same case and different features for each model. The dive depth on the displayed watch will probably be only on the descent model. Just my guess. Im still hoping for at least Bluetooth calling and speaker from watch.
❤ so since my Istinct solar has no more battery life after 4 years 😢 I am using a Kospect Tank T3 ultra so ,,,yes I am happy there is speeker in Fenix 8 🍊 color 🥰🥰🥰 I will wait for pro version,,, great review 🤙🏻🍻
I am curious…..but honestly: What I really want is that the developer spend more time for proper software testing. Garmins hardware is great as well as the batterylife….nevertheless: Over the past years I have had several Garmin devices (Edge 500, 820, 1000 explore, 1020, 540, vivoactive, Forerunner 945 and now fenix 7x pro saphire solar as well as garmin power pedals 1st and 2nd gen). All of the devices I had have had softwarebugs so that I had to send them in. Well the customer support from Garmin is super friendly and they replaced my devices all the time for free. Nevertheless: Personally I think it’s a shame when you have so many devices from a company and all of them you had to send in at least once. My fenix 7x pro saphire came back a month ago…and now it has softwarebugs again….it’s a desaster
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but basically the 47mm Fenix 8 is the same as the 47mm Epix 2 Pro? Except for a mic and speaker? Maybe some cpu/gpu upgrades, but we'll have to wait and see.
Hmmmm, not many reasons to switch from the Epix. These are almost identical. Please Garmin - give me cell signal and a way to listen to RUclips on a run.
sadly I don't think we will get full LTE / eSIM/ phone capability with Fenix 9 or maybe ever- the tech stack to do it is pretty complicated IMO (I used to work on BTS software and hardware at Motorola)
I have been using a forerunner 965 for 3 days. I probably will never use my Apple Watch. Predicted almost 60 days of battery on saving mode. That's crazy
I bought the Epix pro 51mm because I wasn’t interested in being able to make calls on my wrist, as an iPhone user to me the Apple Watch had nothing I want in a watch, I wanted a watch that spends most of its time on my wrist not on a charger. so I won’t be upgrading anytime soon based on what I’m hearing about the new Fenix aka Epix pro with a tune up. We will get any software updates that the new watches will get barring hardware specific anyway
Do you think its possible we will still see a MIP option on the Fenix itself or only seems like the Enduro will be the one? I love MIP and I for one don't want a 51mm watch on my wrist.
Sweet spot for me would be a 45mm with 5 buttons and sapphire glass. Not sure I care about the beefy case of the fenix anymore. Aesthetically like the new Suunto race s but with sapphire glass. Why doesn’t garmin offer a more durable non-fenix option?
Thanks for the leak. And definitely better to watch a human... Getting fed up with the AI-generated crap out there... I wonder if Garmin will update the Marq Athlete too
It appears they're discontinuing the Fenix lineup and rebranding the next Epix as Fenix. The Fenix was a better choice for fitness enthusiasts. Personally, I prefer the Fenix over the Epix. I'm not a fan of OLED screens for watches due to concerns about battery life and visibility in sunlight. I don't need detailed data on my watch, as my phone or computer handles that well. It seems they're shifting toward OLED screens to compete with other smartwatches.
Good point ! But ...hey...let's wait for the real specs to be revealed. Maybe the battery life on these Amoled screens has been furthermore upgraded. Not to say that the Epix 51mm has bad battery life ! Quite the opposite 🤙
I have the Epix pro and have had no issues seeing the screen, even in direct sunlight in alpine conditions and skiing with bluebird days. Much prefer it over the MIP.
Glad to see a video that’s *_not_* cheap AI and actually a person 😅
Thank you! Why am I the only human covering this stuff?? 🤣
@@DaveDoesFitness 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️it’s kinda baffling, thanks for making solid content and giving us the low-down! Looking at a few options with the new Apple Watch Ultra and Fenix 8 coming out
That beard looks AI 😂
😂😂🤣🧔
Exactly! All the “Fenix 8 Pro” videos are annoying. Somebody explain to the AIs that the “Pro” version won’t launch until around 18 months after the base Fenix 8 (assuming the standard timeline).
Finally someone that talks about the real thing and not expectations with clickbaits…
Thanks and keep the good work!
Thanks for the support! 💪🏃
Man. I really like the red/orange accent on the black Fenix 8. Wish I could get that with the Titanium/Sapphire model.
First watch of one of yours, good work and good luck with the channel
Hope you liked the video and thanks for the kind words! 💪🏃
Ohh noooo, I don't think I can update from MIPs to OLED. I simply LOVE the always on display and the capability of charging it once in a month...
I think you will love the OLEDs once you jump on board! Or else go for the Enduro
I agree only charging once a month was amazing. But after a year with the OLED I have adjusted and wouldn’t go back.
I used to have an OLED and transitioned to MIPS. I am happy for you all. But I guess I'll keep mine for as long as Garmin supports it OR release a better one with MIPS. Being able to stay 15 days tracking my activity and using maps when hiking 10h a day in the alps without charging is something I am not ready to let go as for now. Maybe if I get lazy and don't need all of that in the future... but for now I need more something I can trust over what looks nice 😀
Epix gen 2 też ładujesz raz w miesiącu OLED jes 👍
Hope they keep the Enduro 3 MIP. Wouldn’t make a lot of sense to go AMOLED given that Enduro is used for ultra distances.
Thanks for keeping us updated. I’m looking forward to the release. I hope it is not delayed and that there isn’t a wait to obtain the new watches.
You and me both! Thanks for watching! 💪🏃
I’ve never owned a Garmin but anticipate buying one this Christmas for myself. I appreciate all your video content on the watches! 👍🏻
Was happy to get a cheap 7 but with dive features this will rock!
These seem to be the small changes to finally get a garmin. I was focused on a used epix 2 pro, but i often take calls with my watch when i dont have my phone right beside me. Even tho i had it turned off and had no plan for an e sim, a cellular Connection would be great in case of emergency. Garmin watches last a long time , so the ability to take an emergency call when my phone battery runs out would be a nice touch.
But that would probably kill the battery as we know and praise from Garmin ;/ I was hoping for the same when the series 7 came out, and now we're ahead of series 8. I feel, like they won't go this way - yet.
@@JarosawTabor true, but just like on a apple watch or a phone you could turn cellular on and off as u like. Therefore limiting battery usage only to yout liking.
I am very happy to see that there is no need at all for me to upgrade from my Epix Pro 51 white to the Fénix 8.
I'd say wait until the announcement to see if there are any other killer features, but yeah an Epix Pro is most definitely good for the foreseeable future! Thanks for watching! 💪🏃
I’ll stick with my epix pro thanks, also rumours of Garmin starting a subscription for some services will only push people to other brands including me
Not sure I am happy about it but agree - no need to upgrade epix pro imo
With regards to the "SCUBA" mode, yes. You seem to be very correct.
NDL (No decompression limit), TTS (Time to surface), Air (gas used), and the sidebar with the arrows indication going up are all scuba diving terms and features. Compass also makes sense, current depth in the middle, and max depth indicated as well.
My guess is that this isn't going to be a cheap watch, as the descent MK3 is over 1k USD. However, there doesn't seem to be a tank pressure sensor in the menu shown, which is the main feature of Descent Mk3i (special low frequency transceiver).
Keep going Dave! Love your videos! I wouldn't be surprised to see your channel with over a million subs one day 🤘
🤯🤯 if I even get to 1% of that it would be amazing. Up and up we go! Thanks for the support 💪🏃
Thanks Dave. Having watched the video I will buy the Fenix 7 Pro 💪
I prefer a sports watch to cellphone on my wrist 😊otherwise I would buy an apple watch and not a sports watch
Excited for the dive feature but not sure how that would work with speaker and microphone. I love the Descent line, hopefully they keep it up for the professionals. Other feature that I hope they integrate soon are for home automation, like turning everything off when you leave home for a run. There are loads more possibilities if they include ways to integrate to threads/matter/zigbee.
MIC and Speaker !!!! hell yeah ! thats what I have been waiting to upgrade, I would say that to blow the Apple watch Ultra out of the water a LTE would be the route to go but at this point I would take the MIc with voice assist ( I am assuming Alexa ) I would be fine . In summery : Amoled display , MIc to answer phone calls and send text and flashlight I am IN !! thanks for the review !
Hmm I see what you guys are saying about OLED and battery life so I guess we'll wait for some more data. Mic and speaker, yes please. Also I hope they make more space for pre programmed workouts. When I upgraded from 645 to F7S, I couldn't download all my workouts onto it.
first video of the new watches that i can actually sit through and watch. No dumb ai generated content. Earned my sub!
Thanks for the support! I promise to stay human 😂
I REALLY hope this has the same phone features as the Venu 2 Plus and Venu 3. I could get rid of my ugly AW Ultra 2. Thanks for the good video.
Dope video my man! Been excited to hear about the new ones! Thanks for sharing the info!
I'm curious as to what the new software features will be.
LTE option with full cellular calling and texts on the watch would be awesome so we can leave the phone behind when working out. If they do I just hope it won't be like the sad attempt they did with the 945 LTE model.
LTE is the only thing that would make me want to upgrade my Epix Pro.
@ToolCraze! Did you see your cameo in my recent video on Fenix 8 features? 😄
@@DaveDoesFitness no but I did see your other video on the Garmin subscription plan. I'll have to check it out
Thank you for the great video, my fav combo is coming back with Fenix 8 (feni6 pro with ember band). I am hesitant to pull the trigger right away, they may come up with a pro version 3 months of initial release. Sold my Epix 2 Pro yesterday. Good timing.
Nice one, Dave - thanks for pointing out the highlights. The UI/graphics look good, and fine functions one could get used to, although I'll probably wait 'til the next gen to upgrade (can/should not use a wrist watch at work anyway 👨⚕😉)
If they fused the Descent into the Fenix 8 that’s pretty rad.
Maybe basic dive functionality to compete with Apple Watch ? “Limited “ depth and without the technical features or air integration is my guess. (Descent MK3i owner here)
They didn’t…the descent goes up to 400 mts the Fenix only up to 40. Irrelevant for most divers but there’s a distinction
I’m surprised no one commented about the battery life. If the screen is different and now you have a speaker where you can talk like the Venu 3 and loud audible alarms I bet the battery will take a hit. The Venu 3 only has 3 days with always on display. This might be only 7-10 days max.
Damn! I just bought an Epix Pro Gen 2. The speaker and microphone is a good addition but I have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I never used it to make any phone calls. And Fenix 8 not being LTE sort of makes the addition semi useful. Great review though, thanks.
Hey Dave, thanks for the update, been waiting a while for the Fenix 8, if all correct and it does come with the updates you suggested, then I'll update my Fenix 6. See what happens.
Cheers,
M109
Thanks for watching M! Let's hope the Fenix 8 delivers 💪🏃
The scuba diving feature is usually in another series, the Descent models. Adding the scuba diving feature into the fenix series may mark the end of the descent series. This may also increase the price of the fenix 8 significantly. Hopefully they'll have different models, one with scuba diving features and one without.
Wow that's huge, I know they are combining the Epix into the Fenix, but if they discontinue the Descent at the same time that would be a big shakeup to their models
Yea also note that it says "dive 40m" on the back, that's not a standard Fenix feature.
@@donnawetter1513 it's interesting that it says dive 40m at the back. Most recreational scuba divers can go down to 30m and technical divers can go way deeper. Thus the Descent MK3 has a max depth up to 200m and most basic dive watches has a minimum 100m max depth.
I was guessing that perhaps it's for free diving, but free diving shouldn't have many of those data on screen, such as NDL, TTS, max depth. Only time will tell
So glad the algorithms found this video for me. For sure I'm gonna get the Fenix 8 small if it has OLED display, mic and speakers, as well as replies to messages on my phone. That is a dealbreaker for me after 7 years with Samsung watches and the reason I bought a Venu 3s last year. Super happy with it in total, but missing some features I want from the top of the line watches. However, the smart watch features are a must (though I don't care about installing 3rd party apps to control other gadgets or my car or whatever so a Garmin is good enough. I need the battery life and correct metrics that the smart watches does not have).
I think I’ll upgrade from my Fenix 6 Pro that I’ve had since 2020. The flashlight will be cool and the OLED too. I honestly am not running enough currently to need the MIP and would like the crisp look of the OLED with all the Garmin features.
Oh my god, another money trap is being released! I am going to set fire on my hard earned cash once again! So excited for that! 😂
Went from a 965 to a Coros Pace 3 and honestly have no regrets, it got to the point where the Amoled display was just to much and the battery didnt last.
The piece between start button and back button looks very similar to the one seen on the Descent MK3. To me , this means we are going to get diving capabilities. That is so cool ! A true all-round device very capable in air, land and sea much like a true Navy Seal's device. 💪
Two months ago we received an update having a new chat messenger from Garmin. Maybe it was just the first step introducing some sort of satellite connection like we've seen on Inreach devices. Wowww... that will be something to write home about and move Garmin way ahead in the first position when it comes to adventure and tactical features.
Yes! Check my other recent video on the leaked subscription plan, I go over satellite data a bit there
Keep it up man!! Commenting to help with growth of the ch.
It looks like Garmin is finally getting motivated to make some big changes to these watches. Probably, not because of Apple, though that must be hurting a little, but because of the improvements on Samsung and Google's smartwatch platforms. It makes sense to make the MIPS the Enduro and rationalise the line to remove the Epix. Maybe we'll hear more later on that (LTE enabled Fenix 8 maybe?). This also seems to be what they are doing with their Edge devices. Adding a better screen while keeping a transflective screen with solar option for the endurance cyclists.
The diving would be a feature enough to update for me!!! I like what I see Aldo I would really want a updated way to charge it cause I really hate this way at the moment :(
That looks like a micro sim slot at the edge of the bezel between the play and lap button. Hopefully LTE available in the UK. They can have my money if so 😝
Looks like they eliminated the epix added a mic, and called it a day to me. And whatever it has software wise will make it to my epix pro, so thanks for the preview. Great vid
Love your channel and the content you're posting, Dave! Great job ! 💪
Good video and I will definitely be buying a Fenix 8 ASAP.
Personally, I was hoping that Garmin would change how the Fenix is charged!
I’ve wasted so much time fiddling with the cable, making sure it’s in exactly the right position & depth for it to effing charge!!
I'm really happy with the fenix 7. Mic and speaker would be nice. Didn't see the need for it till I went skiing, and being able to have a phone call with out taking out a phone would be great, as you do get split up occasionally. One of those nice to have features that's useful couple of times a year. Improved speed and mapping would be nice. Doubt I'll upgrade though, they cost to much to upgrade every couple of years.
I thought the torch would be a never used gimmick, I use it weekly.
Not sure I want amoled over mips. Mips is easy to read in bright sunlight and saves battery life. Amoled looks better generally. But if it sacrifices battery life or readability no thanks. So have to see how that balances out in reviews.
And FFS can we just get Google pay rather than Garmin pay. Its supported by hardly any banks anyway. Or at least give us the option. I hate the way gatlrmin and Samsung try and go their own apps, that require many dozens of external companies to work and just mess it up.
Scuba Diving is NEW ! WOW⚡
Thanks for confirming! I was trying to to get the video out quickly, but should have done a bit of research to try to confirm that in the video 🤿
Scuba computer is a nice addition. I wonder if you will need to subscribe separately for the algorithm software the way apple does.@@DaveDoesFitness
Dave, you are on point, I’m subscribing because you are a real person 🤞, Right! 😂
2-4 weeks of battery life is one of my most loved features in my Fenix 7x solar. The screen could be better, but at least it has touch. but better screen, will reduce batteri, and for me, its mostly a tough Long (battery) lasting watch with smart functions. If i wanted a watch with all the features, like awesome screen, mic and other stuff, i would (as Android user) go for the apple watch.
With my Fenix 7, the worst thing is the swimming activity. It really sucks tracking swimming activity. The only way to track correct is counting lanes while swimming.
1:28 please help me find the face watch name. I would like to have this on my watch
Great video Dave
Thanks for the support! 💪🏃
Why, why oled?? I want my MIP display. People who need an Amoled, the can go for the epix. If this is true, then it is a big mistake, and Garmin will lose a lot of first adapters, which would normally change to the newer modell, but now many will keep their Fenix 7.
Thanks for the content! Love my Epix Pro Gen 2 so not looking to upgrade, but hope some UI elements trickle down. Cheers from the PNW!
Thanks for watching! I would say there's a very high chance of software features trickling down. Garmin has a great track record of doing that 👍
Finally a good sport watch. Tired of hearing about Apple / Samsung trash.
Just got a used scratched fenix 6 pro for 175€. I guess I will maybe get a used 7x pro solar Saphire when all the used ones Hit the market. Then I have a small one for every day and a big one for outdoor Navigation.
That's a helluva deal and I bet that 6 Pro has a lot of life left in it!
@@DaveDoesFitness arrived today. I am very pleased and not broke as a bonus. The six pro looks very nice on my wirst and a lot of functions for now. Love the MIPS Disolay. Has a few scratched corners and the glass has also 2 small scratches. But less worrys of scratches now I guess haha. Skipped the overprotective caring cause it's new Phase for sure.
So glad I stumbled upon your channel. Great work, looking forward to more
Solar model too maybe.. Can not wait for it
Too bad no lte but I am okay with it
Great work! Looking forward to the Tactix 8 edition. cheers!
so is it actually an updated epix watch? where do i find the fenix parts because I thought the only big difference between epix and fenix was the display?:)
hi, very well made video, do you have the latest update for instinct 3? been very curious about the new instinct line up
Clearly the orange accent piece between the Start and Back buttons is the housing for the Mic and possibly the speaker.
just received a fenix 7 pro in an exchange process - ive likely got no need to upgrade and even if i did it would be to the Enduro 3. for whatever reason I just prefer MIP over AMOLED, i dont think I will ever like an AMOLED as much as MIP
good video bro 🤙
1:22 - looks like a HUGE upgrade.. Rerouting on the watch.. This is a major upgrade if so...
Really hope they add Descent there at least Freediving. We could have one watch for under and above water.
Dive features is interesting. It essentially kills rhe Descent line and theyve always said sive gear hws to go through more durability testing, which is why it was separate
Winfuture says there will be a fenix E (as Economy) with the old (MIP) display while all others are going to be amoled.
Top review Dave ..new to your channel explanation of product excellent
Now that ive got what ive wanted for a long time which is a fenix level device with OLED display, not really sure what I want next from them apart from OLED displays on their GPSMAP lineup. There dosnt seem to be enough update over my Epix to upgrade.
Fenix level device with OLED? They’ve been had that, the Epix Pro
ECG would be nice
i really would like a garmin with a scroll wheel / rollable crown for the start button
I'd much rather have a camera than microphone and a speaker on my sports watch. LTE is also not needed. It would be cool to be able to send an SOS signal of some kind but that's it. I don't need my sports watch to become a full fledged smart watch. I need it to be good in mountains with super long battery life.
And if I am nitpicking I'd love to have an Audible app on the Garmin Fenix :)
Check some of my older content. I have a video on how to get your audible library onto your watch. It's a bit of a process, but it's definitely worth it for those long runs!
Any change that noticeably reduces battery life without the ability to be turned off would be a deal breaker for me, and a reason to stay on the 7 Pro for as long as it keeps getting backported features from the 8.
AGREEEEEEED you got a sub bro. Every AI video I see, I skip. This one, couldn't click on fast enough. appreciate your work, and looking forward to picking up one of these! Can't decide which one yet, but it's gonna be one haha
Thanks for the support! 💪🏃
@@DaveDoesFitness yessir!!
Not enough to upgrade my 7. Normally upgrade every 2 updates. Roll on Fenix 9
Do you think the enduro will also have the flashlight and be generally the better priced one?😊
Garmin is famous for using the same case and different features for each model. The dive depth on the displayed watch will probably be only on the descent model. Just my guess. Im still hoping for at least Bluetooth calling and speaker from watch.
Love to hear that Enduro 3 release is imminent!
❤ so since my Istinct solar has no more battery life after 4 years 😢 I am using a Kospect Tank T3 ultra so ,,,yes I am happy there is speeker in Fenix 8 🍊 color 🥰🥰🥰 I will wait for pro version,,, great review 🤙🏻🍻
I am curious…..but honestly: What I really want is that the developer spend more time for proper software testing. Garmins hardware is great as well as the batterylife….nevertheless: Over the past years I have had several Garmin devices (Edge 500, 820, 1000 explore, 1020, 540, vivoactive, Forerunner 945 and now fenix 7x pro saphire solar as well as garmin power pedals 1st and 2nd gen).
All of the devices I had have had softwarebugs so that I had to send them in.
Well the customer support from Garmin is super friendly and they replaced my devices all the time for free.
Nevertheless: Personally I think it’s a shame when you have so many devices from a company and all of them you had to send in at least once.
My fenix 7x pro saphire came back a month ago…and now it has softwarebugs again….it’s a desaster
Thanks for sharing this!
Really like your vids. 👍
Subscribed! Great video.
Not sure why they would change the fenix to amoled when the epix is already there.
It seems like Garmin has combined the lineups and will keep the Fenix branding. No more Epix
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but basically the 47mm Fenix 8 is the same as the 47mm Epix 2 Pro? Except for a mic and speaker? Maybe some cpu/gpu upgrades, but we'll have to wait and see.
Do we know if the Fenix still suffers from micro cracks on the sensor glass? Garmin wouldn’t help when I pointed out my Fenix 5 had these cracks.
Hmmmm, not many reasons to switch from the Epix. These are almost identical.
Please Garmin - give me cell signal and a way to listen to RUclips on a run.
If you squint, the bezel looks smaller on the Fenix 8 renders
Are you sure you're not AI your hat is suspicious.
Hat is clearly just a hat. It even says so 😂
sadly I don't think we will get full LTE / eSIM/ phone capability with Fenix 9 or maybe ever- the tech stack to do it is pretty complicated IMO (I used to work on BTS software and hardware at Motorola)
Legit content, Dave. Sub’d!
I have been using a forerunner 965 for 3 days. I probably will never use my Apple Watch. Predicted almost 60 days of battery on saving mode. That's crazy
I bought the Epix pro 51mm because I wasn’t interested in being able to make calls on my wrist, as an iPhone user to me the Apple Watch had nothing I want in a watch, I wanted a watch that spends most of its time on my wrist not on a charger.
so I won’t be upgrading anytime soon based on what I’m hearing about the new Fenix aka Epix pro with a tune up.
We will get any software updates that the new watches will get barring hardware specific anyway
Good stuff amigo!
-JOB
Do we think that the Fenix 8 will no longer have solar charging?
Solar and OLED is more challenging. I believe they are working on it though and filed a patent for that a while back. Thanks for watching! 💪🏃
All the upgrades mentioned on this video would welcome for me if is true that is. Iwould consider on pulling the trigger.
If it’s got dive capabilities, I’m upgrading!
Being able to use Siri when I feel like it from the watch, or just take a quick call on it if I don't have airpods in will be pretty sweet.
Does this mean a new line of instinct watches coming not long after?
I think so! Check my channel back a few videos and I cover a recent instinct leak. It won't be part of this launch next week, but hopefully soon
Looking forward ti the update but would have loved a wireless charging option.
Considering the oled screen now on Fenix, would you still expect a separate Epix 3 to still be issued? Or is this a merger between Epix and Fenix?
Do you think its possible we will still see a MIP option on the Fenix itself or only seems like the Enduro will be the one? I love MIP and I for one don't want a 51mm watch on my wrist.
I’d love they would have a watch with the Fenix capabilities, but that looked less “outdoorsy”
Right now that would be the Forerunner 965. Off the top of my head I don't think it's exactly the same, but I'd say about 90% similar
Sweet spot for me would be a 45mm with 5 buttons and sapphire glass. Not sure I care about the beefy case of the fenix anymore. Aesthetically like the new Suunto race s but with sapphire glass. Why doesn’t garmin offer a more durable non-fenix option?
Thanks for the leak. And definitely better to watch a human... Getting fed up with the AI-generated crap out there...
I wonder if Garmin will update the Marq Athlete too
Good stuff
It appears they're discontinuing the Fenix lineup and rebranding the next Epix as Fenix. The Fenix was a better choice for fitness enthusiasts. Personally, I prefer the Fenix over the Epix. I'm not a fan of OLED screens for watches due to concerns about battery life and visibility in sunlight. I don't need detailed data on my watch, as my phone or computer handles that well. It seems they're shifting toward OLED screens to compete with other smartwatches.
Good point ! But ...hey...let's wait for the real specs to be revealed. Maybe the battery life on these Amoled screens has been furthermore upgraded. Not to say that the Epix 51mm has bad battery life ! Quite the opposite 🤙
I have the Epix pro and have had no issues seeing the screen, even in direct sunlight in alpine conditions and skiing with bluebird days. Much prefer it over the MIP.
My Epix Pro also gets around 16 day battery life too.
Those new watchfaces, do you think they might send them to the existing epix pro gen 2 51mm sapphire? Thanks