The Feminist to Far-Right Pipeline
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How anti-trans feminism birthed a new generation of far-right conspiracy theorists.
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Essential sources:
Alexander Reid Ross, “Against The Fascist Creep”, AK Press.Peter R. Sinclair, “Fascism and Crisis in Capitalist Society”, New German Critique.
Ruth Pearce, Sonja Erikainen, and Ben Vincent, “TERF Wars: An Introduction”, The Sociological Review.
Jude Ellison S. Doyle, “How the far-right is turning feminists into fascists”, Xtra: xtramagazine.c...
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Underrated comment
I need you to know it was really hard not to smile for this
All we have to lose is our supply chains
*slow clap gif* 😂
i love trains so this joke slaps
The eugenics and ableist undertones to the idea that healthcare shouldn't be a life long need is terrifying.
I guess they truly don’t realize the sort of wider thinking they are doing - in essence saying that the people that cost the society the least and “produce” (read: produce personal wealth) the most are the only valuable members effectively gives the rich and powerful the right to determine who gets to live what life, in a very eerie resemblance of feudalism. People are no longer tied to the land, but what money they can squeeze out of it or other people. Instead of noble titles inherited by bloodline it’ll be titles and deeds passed on via inheritance, creating an even more rigidly entrenched feudal class system. Kinda horrifying
Eugenics! 😅
That's some wild rhetoric.
The argument is that people who are healthy should not be turned into lifelong patients.
@@hooligan9794 "Every single one of those people are going to need things that the rest of us just don't need" .... So do disabled and chronically ill patients. Are they just a drain on the system that shouldn't be allowed to exist? Is taking Vyvanse every day for the rest of someone's life turning them into a life long patient? Where's the line of "healthy"? When do we just become a drain on the system that's not worthy of support? On surface level, sure, it's just about that. But the moment you think about the logic behind it, it gets scary.
@hooligan9794 It's like people who have a long history of making bad decisions being upset when others don't want them to be making decisions that have a significant impact in their own lives.
@@hooligan9794Dysphoric individuals are not “healthy” and none of the people opposing transition have any viable alternative to offer. Even setting aside any of the glaring moral issues, It’s simply a useless movement.
being chronically ill with one of the worst and most ignored diseases known to man, I can tell you that being a "lifelong patient" is universally hated. I just want to live (despite living in terrible pain).
I’m really sorry. Maybe one day they’ll find a cure or something so that you’re not in terrible pain anymore. Anyways, there is a lot of joy in life, despite the pain. You make the world a better place by being in it, so always keep fighting.
I understand what you’re going through. While I was lucky enough to get a diagnosis and get treatment that has helped alleviate my pain, my mom has been sick for decades with an unknown long term illness and has been to multiple hospitals and doctors who still don’t know what is going on with her. the way people dismiss her or treat her as if she isn’t doing enough for her family/health/career/etc is really gross and I’m sure it’s difficult to explain to others how your condition affects you
I have a variety of health issues that are never going away and the fear that people have about being a “lifelong patient” is profoundly selfish AND self aggrandizing. If they had x, y or, z they would magically be physically, cognitively, emotionally etc. etc strong enough to overcome whatever diagnosis comes their way. People who have never experienced chronic illness are the ones MOST certain that “it isn’t that bad”, “taking chemicals everyday is so much worse”. “ if you just changed your lifestyle it would go away”
They are so certain of this because the idea that they could suddenly become chronically ill/disabled for the rest of their life terrifies them. And they would rather demonize vulnerable people than face the fact that reality is scary.
The idea that people with disabilities and chronic illnesses are lazy, a waste of funding or aren't trying hard enough, are pervasive. It makes me furious.
Also, it doesn't even make sense. Why would anyone want to be sick AND poor?!
@@marjorie666 No one deserves to be either amen
A few years ago I was swept into the radfem/terf community. I had just stopped doing sex work and was extremely traumatised, seeking an anti-sex work community to cope and get validation. These anti-sex work communities were almost always radical feminists and terfs. I started identifying as a radfem, but not a terf (at first). Then I was assaulted and abused by a trans woman. Prior to that event I openly hated terfs and gender critical people, but the validation from the radfem community I was apart of seemed to help me cope with my trauma. I started becoming more and more radicalised due to my traumas, and suddenly I was deep into the terf community. I knew that my assault didn’t represent all trans women and I really tried to repress my growing prejudiced thoughts, but my fear and dislike of trans women grew. Transphobic rhetoric from the terf community combined with my trauma radicalised me, even though I knew deep down it was wrong, but I felt like these terfs were the only people who understood me. But after going to therapy and accidentally befriending a trans woman (who is now one of my best friends), I left the community feeling disgusted with myself. I’m sorry for the essay lol, but I really wanted to share my experiences with the community. It’s scary how fast these extremists can manipulate and radicalise you. For me, it only went a few months going from anti-terf liberal SJW to joining legitimate terf communities. I’m so ashamed of it now, but I want people to see a glimpse of how these communities work.
Wrongthink is so insidious. It just creeps up on you. So your therapist and trans friend found it out. You seem very proud of them. Very grateful you discovered before it's too late.
Thank you for sharing your story, and I'm so glad to hear you got the help you needed in the end!
Yup- "leftist" spaces tend to help & empower the wealthy & people who are connected. It is a nasty little club in my country & it's shown by our politics... our "leftist" parties are rampant with misogyny & racism & classism & our female leftist PM did little good for Māori or young people... it was easy for our horrible rightist government to get in bc people didn't vote bc they felt like there was nobody to vote for... other Māori who were scared of our health system & in turn vaccines, were belittled, & then they were welcomed into right wing groups & naturally they went where they were welcome... "leftist" politics in general centers yt, educated, middle-class, straight people & yet offers no support... I see exactly why it happens. It would be amazing if the left actually represented & helped all people.
Pervasive ideologies prey on us on our weakest moments, thanks for seeing the truth
I also had a period of prejudice against a minority group following a crime. You're not alone. Happy to say I got out of it too, but also felt guilty and disgusted with myself for so long.
I just wanted to remind you that it's okay to forgive yourself and console your trauma-brained self for making poor coping decisions. Hurt people hurt people. Now you're healing, your actions show that.
Sending love ❤❤❤
Alex Jones, "They're turnin the frickin frogs gay". Jennifer Bilek, "The gays are turnin the frickin frogs into robots". Honestly, as a gay, frog cyborg, I'm ok with this.
Literally all my friends are gayborg frogborgs. Duh
Aww man...I don't like the focus on robot cyborgs.
I wanted someone to make me into a bunny girl, but noOooOoo, we have to develop gay frog cyborgs first! :(
Gat cyborg technology needs to catch up!!!
@@TheAsvarduilProject just use the kabal phone. You need to get injected with queer nanobots to go gayborg
imo i hate this comment and i hate you
I'm cyborg but that's okay
should I watch this before or after "The Incel to Trans Pipeline"? what's the optimal "barbenheimer" sequence for me to come out of watching this pair without leaving my spirit destroyed?
During.
The Incel to Trans Pipeline video does discuss very uncomfortable matters, but I find that at the end it has a message of hope and it was generally a very nice video to watch imo.
Of course that doesn't mean that I think this video is going to be gloomier, I can't say, I haven't finished watching, but lol, there are my two cents.
@@chrispo7610 one in each ear. I usually do that with drop shipping podcasts and Mozart
@@lilfilth5622 what about the chinese stuff on the 4th channel
I couldn't really fw that video to be honest. It's been months since I saw it but for a video about incels she barely talked about misogyny, which made a lot of incels who watched the video comfortable with their ideas and I even saw incels saying that she was using their pain for views because she also barely talked about inceldom. I don't think she treated the topic with the depth it needs. She also kind of implies that any lonely, struggling single man has a path towards inceldom, which is incels favorite excuse to deflect from the real foundation of it: hating women.
Its funny that someone can look at neo-nazis giving the hitler salute and start saying the other side is just as bad. The madness
The worst is when people don't even believe they are legit but rather federal agents trying to "false flag". Everyone is losing their minds
All depends on your values. The way you instantly demonizing one side is no different from how they instantly demonize another group. The reasoning my be different but the bigotry is the same.
@@erikshure360Nazis demonize themselves. All we do is point the cameras and let them do their thing.
If we're talking about tankies and communists, then yes, the other side is just as bad.
@@scottanos9981 theres scientific legal court government document evidence that those people doing the salute and carrying flags are actually feds. there is also documents to scientifically prove that the feds are purposefully letting or creating mass pew pew 🔫events to happen. on many criminals who carried out a mass pew pew event, the fbi KNEW for months that the person said they were planning to do something and had access to tools to do the crime, and in some cases the fbi had actual contact by talking to the person to convince them to do it, and even gave them tools to carry out the crime
19:40 time stamp - as someone who's disabled. All i can think of is like.... I get that she's focusing on trans people "being a drain" but that can easily be said for those of us with chronic conditions like.... Am i supposed to grow my own mold to harvest my own insulin or something so im "not a drain" because i have a chronic condition????? No like. We have the resources to keep people healthy and alive. Its not a drain. Because we, us trans people or people with chronic conditions go on to live our beautiful lives. We deserve life as much as anyone else. I mean shit she's literally wearing glasses - is she not "a drain" because she'll constantly need to update her prescription and get new lenses and frames over the course of her life?
Thats one of those things that annoys me about people like this. My father (really my family lol) is this way so i deal with it a lot. They make these weird, shitty blanket statements without thinking all the way through of what it is theyre actually saying and what the ramifications of such policies or ideas would be.
Good example, i have this aunt who runs an electrical business. She once had this whole discussion with me about how, in her opinion, "Public schools should be banned. If you cant afford education then you shouldn't be allowed to be educated"
And it was so baffling to hear her spit that out because. 1.) she sent her own children to our local public schools so ma'am wtf
And 2.) the business she runs? Most of her electricians are guys who have gone exclusively to public school, and then attended a trade school. So
With her little "ew poor people shouldnt be allowed to get an education" she'd basically make it to where she'd be incapable of finding anyone to hire
And also like. Why??? Would you want people to be uneducated???? What is the purpose of that? And it's not like shes part of the 1% or anything. Shes middle class in the middle bumfuck nowhere south. So its like
It just
These people make my head hurt because nothing they say makes any fucking sense
The idea that people who need more resources than others are some sort of drain or waste is just such a shitty position. Like that's what healthcare is supposed to be for. "To each according to their need" and all. We're supposed to all be in this together, that's what society and government are for, and that necessarily involves helping some more than others. That's a feature, not a bug.
It's that trans isn't a medical issue, but a psychological one. That's the difference. With the no public schools idea poor people would work and then go to school and private schools would compete leading to cheaper school. Right now the public schools force money from people using the government and they don't have to compete. Public school also steals time and large amounts of money could even be given to poor people instead.
sigh, the harm that eugenics has done on our society is immeasurable..
If she's middle class in the middle of "bumfuck south," she probably has a delusion that she IS a part of the 1%, tbh.
51:17 what other minorities, Kellie? What other minorities were thrown into camps and mürdered by the Năzis? What other minorities, Kellie?
Homosexuals and Jehovah's witnesses?
@@AsrielDremurrBomjwhat? Really? That's what you said? You're just going to completely disregard the slavs, romani, and communists?
@@tempejkl sorry, I just don't underatand what that Kellie from the video tried to tell us, I just didn't get the message. And I don't understand what the comment by
@Snuzzled is implying. So I wrote mine, I just don't undertsand anything, sorry.
What's the message? Can you tell me?
@@AsrielDremurrBomj Trans people. The Năzis mürdered trans people during the Holocaust. They considered it a crime even greater than being gay.
@@AsrielDremurrBomjpoint is that aside from jews, gay and trans people (and many others, like political opponents, roma, sinti, prisoners of war - especially slavs) were one of the main targets of the holocaust, which is something that the holocaust deniers in this video.... deny.
Someone on twitter (when it was still twitter) once told me that trans people shouldn't be allowed because during a zombie apocalypse, there would be no access to hormones and that's harmful. Their profile said they were a medical doctor. I think about that sometimes.
So let's see, there would also be no access to adderall, insulin, antidepressants, antipsychotics, blood pressure medications, etc. And what about people who are physically/intellectually disabled? They may say "well it's not comparable," but they are still defining a person's worth by their ability to contribute to a crisis situation. This hypothetical bargaining over peoples' humanity is the literal basis of nazi eugenicism. But I'm sure people will still find a way to say "well, but it's different because..." 🙄
That’s actually such a crazy stance??????? God I hope no trans people had them as their doctor.
During a zombie apocalypse, no one would have access to the Internet, so therefore all we're doing is training people to be reliant on something we won't have during said apocalypse. So the internet should be banned. In fact, having a home and access to clean water should also be banned, because those also won't be commonplace. Hell, time to start creating and mass producing zombies ourselves, because letting people live without the fear of zombies killing them everyday is also something that wouldn't be the case in a zombie apocalypse.
Oh shit I didn't realise hormones would become a necessity during a zombie apocalypse, I'm not a medical doctor tho so what do I know...
I'm not surprised this came from Twitter but still: what?
"life long medication that takes government resources" Me a trans type 1 diabetic laughing my ass off
You better watch out 3rd strike and the American authorities will be coming for you
I worry about this parallel tbh. The idea of Transgender individuals being a waste of healthcare recourses and they don't deserve these recourses because of their "lifestyle choices", can be copy and pasted onto so many other things. Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, lung cancer, skin cancer, hell we could single out cavities. All of these ailments are pretty famous for having lifestyle choices be the cause. Obviously not exclusively.
Perhaps its a slippery slope. But I do worry about some skeezy idealogue using anti trans rhetoric to springboard off and discredit healthcare as a whole.
My thoughts immediately went to diabetes and obesity during that segment, because her statement might as well have been said about that demographic, and rn I think it is the biggest public expense??(Correct me if I'm wrong)
But it just completely misses the mark. Why does saving money apparently matter more than the lives, health, and well-being of other humans? It certainly never will to me
@@Daneypastry right? Im T1D, people in my familly have cancer, plenty of people have handicaps that need life long treatment far more expensive than hormones and we all deserve a chance to live our life. TERFs "rational" arguments are (aside of the obvious transphobia)ALWAYS mysoginistic, validist, homophobic, racist or all of the above. And in my country everyone pay for everyone else healthcare: That's not TERF business who derserve what treatment
And pouring endless amounts of money into the military is NEVER a waste.
“I dunno, man. When two things happen at the same time I get really scared” is going to be my senior quote
I'm pretty sure that I will be a lifelong medical patient. I have several conditions and the treatments I've been prescribed have improved my life immensely.
Can't wait to hear people push the claim that big pharma made me diabetic/asthmatic/ect to profit off me indefinitely.
same, can't wait to hear about how the hollow earth dwarven conspiracy gave me - specifically - scoliosis.
Lifelong medical patient here, too! Same!
I'd rather be a lifelong medical patient than six feet underground.
I think it's weird the gymnastic hoops people will jump through to avoid just hating these broken systems upfront. Like instead of hating big pharma because they, you know, exploit sick people for record profits, they must have some grand conspiracy.
And that conspiracy ideology runs throughout. The people in power? Devil worshipping baby eaters. Yeah, let's say that instead of corporate funded shills.
Sometimes things are just bad on the surface. These mindsets veer around that.
Yeah, I have to take anti-cancer medicine for the rest of my life, so what's a little estradiol on top of that?
Being a "lifelong medical patient" is what means we don't have extremely high infant mortality any more, and don't have an average lifespan after infancy of about 30 years.
"Protect women." As in, not individuals who are women, but the *category* itself. People who say this do not actually care about people. They care about the intersubjective systems that keep life predictable and stable. Too many are all too willing to sacrifice individuals' well-being, as long as the the stability of the system stays intact. They are protecting an erroneous concept of womenhood from anyone whose lived experience contradicts it.
"They will need special accommodations that those of us who are normal don't need"
I wear glasses...
"As a Muslim feminist from Pakistan-where feminism is local, and has many colors, and isn’t always called “feminism” because “feminism” is owned and run by White women who bring White men in fighter planes-I felt wracked with discomfort. I heard the baristas’ assumptions about Middle Easterners and Muslims. I thought of Pakistani activists, scholars, lawyers, theologians, politicians, and laypeople that habitually allied themselves with feminist causes. I thought of women who stand up for equality and gender justice and, for their commitment to those ideals, deal with much harsher realities on the street and at home than middle-class American women do, to. It hadn’t occurred to my baristas that “those people” had already come up with ideas, strategies, and jihads to try to change patriarchal norms and oppressive customs. It hadn’t occurred to them that brown and black folks who spoke funny languages were sometimes engaged in a life-and-death struggle to change societal practices. Weren’t they all swarthy, bearded males featured shouting furiously about America on the cover of Newsweek?"
- Shabana Mir
thanks for making me discover this author ! I googled her, will be reading more if her.
Awesome qoute, omg
"Muslim feminist"😂
@@Schnirt I can sense the porcelian behavior from your comment.
@Emma_Editzz8
I remember the anti-SJW movement getting decidedly worse around 2013 when it stopped perceiving "SJWs" as a case study in ineffective activism and poorly conceived political theory, began to consider them a coherent outsider political group, and by early to mid 2014, began to consider "SJWs" as the de facto political establishment of most of the Western world.
i like this analysis, rly interesting
And the self-labeling of being anti-SJW and anti-antifa. . .it would be one thing to criticize SJWs or antifa as being flaky and ineffectual, but I don't see that happening. It seems to me that people are being anti-SJW and anti-antifa to vice-signal that they're anti-progress, anti-equality and pro-fascist (without having to explicitly say that they're pro-fascist - although they might call each other fash when they think no outsiders are listening)
@robertpraetorius4007 So you're seriously gonna claim that the people who refer to Antifa as "fascist" as an insult are somehow fascists themselves? In other words, if they really think fascism is so great, then why would they use "fascism" as an insult? People who support Marxism aren't gonna use "Marxist" as an insult.
@@tylerbozinovski427 ummmm. No. I just re-re-re-read what I wrote 9 days ago (A) and what you wrote 21 hours ago (B) and, call me dense, but I can't get from A to B.
@@robertpraetorius4007 People on the Right-Wing label Antifa as Fascist, because most people on the Right oppose Fascism.
And you know Antifa using tactics that literal Black and Brownshirts used in the 1920s and 30s respectively is a vile behaviour.
I find it incredibly ironic that when they complain about the use of the term "pregnant people" by saying this excludes women, as if they believe women weren't people.
I don't think they think that, or like, I hope, but like careful verbal communication seems to go over their heads.
but calling us "people" is dehumanizing!!1
I remember in the 80s, I had sympathy toward radical feminism, although I thought the "lesbian separatists" (which is what we called them then, and were similar to what gets called TERFs today) were making mistakes that were hurting women overall. That is, their extremism in wanting separate space for women quickly became divisive and absurd. At the time, I recall it being about what age a woman could bring her son to a "women's only" space. The cutoff was really young. To me, that was destructive to feminism, if you don't include mothers or make it possible for them to attend. That impulse, which at the time just seemed wrong-headed and extreme, is what I think inevitably led to trans exclusion. It was probably happening even then, but I didn't hear about it. People now don't realize how invisible trans people were to cis people back then. To say we were ignorant is a huge understatement. It wasn't until the last decade that I really learned about trans issues. On the other hand, I was not a separatist and didn't participate in any deliberate trans exclusion.
It was possible to be more sympathetic to the separatists then, because they weren't collaborating with people taking away abortion rights. I saw them as mostly traumatized people who wanted a space they saw as safe. Unfortunately, they defined "safety" more by genitalia than is realistic. It was comprehensible, and as I said, most of us were completely ignorant about trans issues and how trans people were being treated and hurt by this subculture. The lesbian separatists had no power at all at the time. They were as fringe as you could get -- fringe of fringe. They often verged on ridiculous. They spent their time correcting people who said "seminar" with "ovular" and adding 10,000 years to the current date. Their spaces kept going out of business even in progressive cities. So they were quite unlike their TERF heirs. You could have compassion for how they'd been hurt by men and hope that they would heal. Instead they kept migrating toward the very powers they said they were fighting and are now scapegoating the most vulnerable.
It's still very difficult to get my head around. I suppose because there was a long period where I just wasn't paying attention to these movements and subcultures. I had a rude awakening when I first saw a TERF video that was spewing the most vile abuse and hatred toward trans women. I was shocked to the core. It's taken me some years to trace how the people I often felt sympathy for in the 80s and 90s have morphed into attack dogs for the right wing. Words cannot express my sadness, disappointment, and anger.
This is so thoughtful - thanks for commenting ❤️
Abigail Thorne as J.K. Rowling wasn't what I expected, but it was exactly what I needed.
I love the sarcasm just dripping from her voice when she quotes Jo. You don’t often see quotes read so opinionatedly, and I for one really enjoyed it!
I also never thought I'd hear her read a hitler quote
It was e x q u i s i t e
How does she have the time to do everything she does?
@@taxirob2248by exhibiting the dualism of divinity and humanity. Abigail is clearly deeply human. This is demonstrated by her deep sense of empathy and struggles with human things. However, she is clearly of the divine. This is demonstrated by her ability to always create the time to support things and people that must be supported and to stand as an unceasing bright light as Princess of TERF Island despite the personal pain it causes.
(but seriously though, this is my only explanation....)
It it wrong that I laughed grimly at 33:16? Just Matt's long pause after he says "we are now a theocratic state" then has to double back and clarify because he realises he and his followers WANT a theocratic state.
Self-described theocratic fascist Matt Walsh
Bro’s Twitter bio literally says “Theocratic Fascist” bUt iTs iRoNiC SiLlY
Omg same here 😂
Also something to be said about the new-age-to-conservative pipeline. looking at my birthmother, I think it started with the reverence of purity, because of the culture around "wellness" and individualism and "your natural body," with the fearmongering around contaminants and the "unnatural."
It's like what people say about hippies becoming conservative in later age - the new age movement has always been way more closely aligned with right-wing ideologies than people think. At the end of the day, the new age movement started as a white-people-appropriate-Eastern-spirituality-and-culture-fest, whether it was done with bad intentions or not and without explicit moral judgements on that fact, and it shows very clearly in the mess it's turnded into.
“When you mix red and brown you only get brown.”
This is my advice to anyone who thinks they can co-op fascism to their own ends. Whether you’re Red, Blue, Grey, Green, Yellow, Orange, Pink, or Purple or Saffron. Brown makes brown no matter what you mix it with. Your’s is not the hand the fire won’t burn.
"guys guys you can't work with fashists they will always kill you!!!" Yeah no but please keep screaming and crying and lying to others. TBH leftist like you who complain about pipelines. Do you know what the "pipeline" really is? It's not podcasts or videos or video game talk rooms. It's realitity and people being hit with it. Your world view and beliefs are quite litreally divorced from the actual reality in which you live. Most "new fashists" were all leftist like you until you people pushed it further and further till they would no longer carry water for you. TBH i've never converted anybody, they self convert
I've always liked the expression "when you stick your hand in mud, the mud doesn't get handy" to make the same point.
Fascism is actually black (i.e. the absence of colour). National Socialism is brown.
I have seen racists unironically use this line
why does tucker carlson always look like hes dissociating when he has a guest speaker on
my man looking like he forgot he has a nose on his face and is trying to remember where he might've left it
Because of the drugs.
you have to be pretty high to hear so much bullshit
I always thought it was a mixture of confusion and constipation.
His face is just stuck like that.
It’s horrifying how common this shit is, but every time a leftist RUclipsr makes a video about an aspect of this issue it fills me with hope. We know what’s going on. They cannot fool us.
Also, nazi-feminists in 2016: a stupid right wing talking point
Nazi-feminists in 2024: terrifyingly real
In 2016 they used TERFs as an excuse to attack feminism as a whole... now they're like peas and carrots
@@Jane_8319omg you're right, femin@z1s have ACTUALLY arrived!!! 😮
@@Jane_8319 The difference between the imagined and real nazi feminists is that they hated the former and love the latter, I guess
@@Jane_8319 To be fair, saying "we protect women and girls" isn't feminist. That was also a staple of Nazi propaganda, it's still a staple of the far right, racists, islamophobes, homophobes, misogynists (of course), and transphobes. Point at a group say "we must protect women and girls from them"! It's an excuse, not a reason.
As a nonmuslim teen who was weirded out by the hijab, I decided to talk to hijabi women and see their perspective. I learned about Islam, Arab culture, South East Asian culture. I'm not a fan of compulsory hijab wearing but hijab is just clothes women wear. Not all Muslim women wear them and wearing them doesn't determine one's political beliefs. It just clothes and at the end of the day, the true problem are abusive misogynistic people of all religions and so forth.
Voice of Baceprot are a great example of women who choose to wear hijab and break stereotypes of how many people think hijabi women think and behave.
Marsya gives a little speech about wearing hijab at 33:13 during their concert at Rennes (VoB (Voice Of Baceprot) - Live at Transmusicales de Rennes 2021)
Islam is inherently misogynistic. So is Christianity.
corsets are also just clothes women wear. bras are also just clothes women wear. qipao are also just clothes women wear. footbinding tape was also just clothes women wear. niqab are also just
@@expedition346 did you really compare normal clothes with foot binding? lmao
@@expedition346 Keep yapping, the conflation of corsets, bras and qi-fuckin-pao (???) with foot binding shows how little you know about women's historical clothing, jesus christ.
im cis but i have had type one diabetes fot thirty years, an actual life long medical patient and here in america i am denied resources and benifits every year, the government wants me to die, in poverty, and if yalls government starts denying people health care people will die and struggle.
This video showed on my homepage for a few minutes, then disappeared, and I had to search for it specifically.
God, I hate RUclips.
@@thibauthanson7670 it's not about that it's because it disappearing means it got restricted by RUclips for some reason, which it does a lot with leftwing content but almost never to rightwing content.
based israeli user
That's why I use the subscription page as my homepage. Why trust the algorithm?
Lately, comments on RUclips are also being censured heavily as well...even if well thought out and respectful. I get it to an extent but I fear it is turning RUclips into a polarized broadcast medium.
@@gb-jg1udRUclips has an unreleased list of words or combinations of words which cause it to automatically delete comments. This happens quite a lot if you talk about Zi*nism for instance.
Wake up imaginary babe , lilly posted a new video
Comforting to see a fellow isolated person
I just learned the term “maladaptive daydreaming,” and my cast of imaginary sweeties - with whom I watch these videos - have told me to forget I ever learnt it … but I just can’t. :’-(
Real@@danopticon
Doesn't have to be imaginary when I'm right here 🥺
I am now your babe. I'm everyone's babe, you're all loved.
I just watched this, damn. Thank you for making this. I'm two years into my transition and I'm friends with a lot of people in an local trans support/hangout group, some of whom transitioned in the 80s and 90s, and they reassured me that things are much better now than they were back then. But still, I'm afraid of what will happen in the next few years. I'm digitizing an old local lesbian newsletter for a local archive and I'm struck by how similar the columns are to what I talk about with the folks in the support group every week. They talk about how difficult it is to come out, legislation that they're afraid of, protests, meetups and movie nights, and how beautiful life as a queer person is. It's funny how little has changed.
53:30 reading pornography about underage characters and shaking my head the whole time so everyone at the park knows it's for research
LMFAO
One minor point not touched on here which is extremely interesting: Jennifer Bilek actually worked as a lawyer for Deep Green Resistance, and a lot of her rhetoric is rooted in that of the more insular and bigoted end of the anarcho-primitivist (and greater green anarchist) movement which DGR emerged out of, where the critique of large-scale industrial civilisation as unsustainable and fundamentally destructive both to the planet and to human thriving, rather than expanded to account for the needs of those whose situations benefit to some extent from technological advancements such as transgender and disabled people, contracts to treat those groups as problems to be solved, often in implicitly or explicitly exterminationist terms. The paranoia about technology, in particular, echoes the primitivist-adjacent theorist and terrorist Ted Kaczynski's fixation on the dangers of biotech in his infamous manifesto, as well as his reactionary attitudes towards trans people, which while perhaps rooted in his own fraught relationship with gender were nevertheless quite venomous. I will caution that regardless of how one might feel about the implications of their beliefs, far from all anti-civ writers are so ableist and transphobic; there is a reason that the likes of Lierre Keith, Jennifer Bilek and DGR cofounder Derrick Jensen were drummed out of anarchist spaces, and part of that was other anprims calling them out for their bigotry. But the stereotype among anarchists of the unhinged transphobic ableist anprim exists for a reason, and Ted K and DGR are big parts of that.
Oh my god!! I had NO idea, wish I’d known. What’s your source on this?
well no it is inherently ableist and transphobic (not to mention misogynist - modern industry is the basis for women being able to be freed from housewivery) anti-technology ideas are as toxic as the rest of decentralist and retvrn larp. your old communities are dead. your small businesses and family farms suck. be a communist instead of wanting to return to tradition
@@lily_lxndrThere's actually video on this platform of a 2014 panel entitled "Strategies for Revolution" on which Bilek appeared as one of two representatives of Deep Green Resistance New York (who linked to the video on their blog) alongside members of OWS Zapatista Solidarity and several other small organisations in a similar vein. More recently, she's appeared on DGR's Green Flame podcast and has seen her 11th Hour blogposts recirculated on their official website. That said, recalling precisely where I was first tipped off about this connection is difficult, in part because it seems like a lot of Bilek's pre-conspiracy blogging history in environmentalist activism seems patchily recorded online, either through deliberate obfuscation or link decay or simply because most of her activity at the time was offline. It feels like old anarchist lore more than anything, the kind of thing where there's evidence when you dig but knowing where to dig requires you know somebody who knows somebody.
@@lily_lxndrChrista Peterson did a series with Katy Montgomerie a couple of years ago called The XX Factor where she goes into depth about Bilek and has receipts about that. It's in episode 4 I believe, though it's all worth a watch; episode 5 goes more into the blatant antisemitism.
(Great video btw, obviously!)
@@PedanticPig I didn't know that Christa and Katy had the receipts on this but I'm not remotely surprised given how thorough they are.
Also, if it weren't already obvious, I agree, this video is great.
im not even trans but the way my family and friends fell down this trap surely made me feel like an outcast
its ok tho, i befriended cool people. if it's a snowball we'll go down fighting
It really bothers me how self righteous these type of people act, I remember when I told my step mother about my father SAing me and all she and the rest of my family could do was say I was lying, and yet you see these same people posting about how much danger trans people are. They don’t care they are just scared, and people need to realize that fear not hatred causes almost all cruelty and violence. Being afraid isn’t an excuse.
@@VirtualQuarkInterfacesimilar thing happened to me and some instances with my Grandpa that I initially brushed off. With bs like, "He didn't mean it" being spouted by my own mother. Sorry you have to go through all that horseshit.
@@randomnerd3402I hate how intrenched this is, most of this type of abuse happens like this, then the same enablers act like others are the perpetrators, they know their guilt I think, and can’t stand it. Narcissistic behavior if I’ve ever seen it. I’m very sorry you went through that as well.
@@VirtualQuarkInterfaceI understand how you feel (as much as i can, i never went thru it thankfully). You say that fear causes most cruelty and violence then say it isn't an excuse for it? Of course it doesn't absolve anyone of ALL their crimes, but it helps you understand them. Why do protests happen? Often it is fear of something, so a small amount of violence caused, is that really all that bad?
I think you may need to realise that not one right has been achieved by peaceful protest. Never forget the blood that was spilled so you could have a shorter work week. Have a nice day 👍🏽
@@tempejkl there is a difference between fear causing inaction because people don’t want to step out of line or “rock the boat”, and people rising up against an oppressive system. Me hitting my father in the face to get him off me, although out of fear, was needed. I understand better than you ever could.
"A lot of queers talk about nebula" is also incidentally how I would describe the astrophysics department at my college
A tale as old as time, the "why are the leopards eating MY face?"
As a Canadian who has not been paying much attention to Canadian politics recently, it’s disgusting and horrifying seeing Poilievre and other conservatives lean into anti-trans rhetoric. I was living in state of denial thinking anti-trans rhetoric was a fringe ideology in Canada
Crazy how much of a echo chamber you must live in to not notice
I am terrified of Trudeau.
When the USA got a cold, Canada sneeze.
Canadian politics always have a big aspect of American ones with a few years of lag.
Look at how emboldened anti-abortion groups in Canada became after the overturn of Roe vs Wade.
Given what is happening right now down there, I'm really worried for our future.
Same tho, not a great time to be trans
19:36 putting in my thoughts as a transmasc. Even if my egg never cracked, I'd still have ADHD. I'd still have anxiety, and my depression would be even worse. I would still be a "lifelong patient" because I need adderall and zoloft to half ass function in a world that wasn't built for me, and doesn't want to understand me even without my transness. Which, that too is an extension of mental health. But I get the feeling with her language of "sane" world she'd prefer us all to go back to electroshock therapy and lobotomies anyway, shut us in an "asylum" so they can forget we exist. Despicable.
Also love how adderall is stigmatized and criminalized. The way I get treated when I go to pick up my prescription is genuinely upsetting to me.
even beyond psychiatric medication and hrt, people take medicine for their animal allergies daily. insulin, asthma inhalers/management medication, thyroid and heart meds…. there are so many things that people take every day. absolutely wild that she would position trans people as a uniquely “take a lot of medicine” population. i need albuterol and testosterone! id still need the albuterol anyway!
I think the lifelong patient thing is so stupid. There's so many things that that applies to, some way more expensive. Idk what all is covered in the uk but hrt isn't that expensive.
It being open to you means it's open to cis people with hormone issues as well. A guy with low t still deserves treatment.
To eliminate people for needing hormone meds, we'd be looking at probably 10-30% of people depending on how strict we go and if we include people who need fertility treatments. More if we include birth control.
The world isnt built for anyone except the rich mate. How you haven't realised this is beyond me. Also, there's no fucking way you're complaining about aderall stigma. Is that REALLY your biggest problem? Who gives a fuck what people think about you? Just fucking take your meds. You dont realise that you're lucky, aderall isn't even legal in my country. Stop being so ungrateful.
Or we need to abolish the colonial systems and not work with, let alone in them, while actually disabling ourselves in and on it all and in actual colonial mis and disinformation?
@@TheSapphireLeo ???? you've deconstructed the english language wayyy too much, rephrase ur point the way you'd explain it to a middle-aged cashier at home depot
I had to click because I have seen this in my own family, namely my father who in my youth was very inclusive and I once firmly believed I could trust him. In the last 5 years, he fell down that Alt-Right pipeline to the most intense of conspiracy theories and has told me directly how he doesn't believe trans people exist and that our 'delusions' shouldn't be supported. As a closeted trans person, it hurt me greatly and I never understood how tf he could take that turn. This occurrence has also kept me closeted when once I was leaning closer to maybe coming out to family.
I'm so scared for the future too as a fellow Canadian ):
@Lumiiric- l see you and am sending so much love your way!🙌💖
"Fascist is a new word for legend" is a BONKERS thing for someone to say. Just wow
The amount of this happening in Canada is *horrifying*. Please excuse me while I hide in my little corner.
0:00 this video contains discussion of transphobia, SA, anti ⚫: and anti palestinian, raeycysm, anti seemetick ism, and capital f fascism
lol. @randomnetsurfer thanks for exposing yourself as ALL of these. you support crime minister ⚫face justin turdeau.
did you know that in canada that its illegal for women to carry and use self defense item, that if a REAL BIOLOGICAL WOMEN is attacked by a fake man calling themselves a w*men and the purpose of the attack was to kidnap the women and SA her, and if she was carrying a self defense item and used it against her attacker, that she would be in prison for a huge amount of years for possession of illegal weapons, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and for doing a transphobic hate crime? then when the REAL BIOLOGICAL WOMEN is in prison, they would be faced with SA by male gehhnitalia daily with 't' woman in womans prisons, and forced to undergo pregnancy and childbirth in prison, and that she would have to pay with her own money for medical treatment and therapy for healing from the trauma, while all the women in the prison spray period blud all over the walls and floors bc of having no access to tampons, which is biomedical and biological tearorizm done by the government.
lol.... this is the so called """"feminist turdeau/leftists/lgtvs" that run canada
If it’s any comfort, I used to lean conservative and anti-trans, and that’s changed thanks to a combination of education and religious deconstruction. I’m so sorry for the harm I caused in the past. But I hope that I can at least be an example of the positive reverse of the situation. A “bigot to ally in early adulthood pipeline”, if you will.
Awesome growth ❤
Daymmmnnnn what a legend!!! Welcome to the team my friend, we're so happy to have you here with us🖤🎉 idk you but ily and I'm so proud of you!
What a legend!!! We're so happy to have you on the team! Idk you, but ily and I'm so so proud of what you've accomplished. The world is so much better with you in it. Thanks for being here 🖤🪷
I feel like your story is pretty common and I wish people talked more about it. Plenty of people change their views when presented with new information.
Thank you for your growth and for talking about it
Can you please let us know how this happened for you? The trajectory is usually in the opposite direction.
Wow. Does anyone still remember way back when JK was dunking on Pewdiepie for being fashy? Pepperidge farm remembers...
Jebberly farm also remebers (hand turkeys)
How in the name of the sweet Gods did she get to Holocaust denial?? I-??? No words
It's the "Liquid" form of "Hall of Cost" denial where you only deny that a group was targeted or the politics of their being targeted specifically. It's one that's already popular with conservatives generally and especially here in the Disunited Violence Monopolies of Vespucci has been in fashion with them for a while because it doesn't give the game away* like the more "Solid" form everyone's already familiar with but you can't get away with in public as easily unless you're already in a dictatorship like Turkey. If you just erase the politics inherent to "Jen O.'s Sides" then you can erase any comparison to your politics and court the "It never happened but also it was totally cool when it happened" crowd to your heart's content, or until you run out of plausible deniability, whichever comes first.
*See also: Myth about "Knot Seas" being Socialist when they just used the word because it sounded nice to people and then redefined it for their own purposes; other myth about "Knot Seas" being queer after they killed queer people; general erasure of BIPoC peeps, communists, queer people generally but especially trans people as mentioned, AND HOLY FUCKSHITTING HELL EVEN WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE ACKNOWLEDGED STILL NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THE FORCED FUCKING EUTHANASIA OF FUCKING DISABLED PEOPLE AND THEN JUST ETHNOCIDING THEM WITH EVERYONE ELSE WHEN THEY GOT CAUGHT AND THESE FUCKERS GOT TARGETED IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY ONE AND STILL GET TREATED LIKE SHIT AND I'M JUST HERE WITH MY GLASSES AND FIFTY DIFFERENT INVISIBLE DISABILITIES WONDERING WHY THE FUCK NOBODY EVEN SEEMS TO HAVE MADE A PODCAST ABOUT THIS!
16:41 Abby Philosophy Tube voicing JK Rowling is a great choice
it gave “petrol salesman” even down to Rowlings own rhetorical use of fire
hoots is the best tho
Trans Jewish person here. Where’s MY paycheck? I’m doing such hard work out here ;-;
@@0leDaddySecrets alright slay it bestie
@benjaminollis7621 I stg bro have you ever heard of a joke
LMAO
@benjaminollis7621 Babe 🤣
As a Soy-eating Postmodern Neo-Marxist, I really feel your pain and confusion.
living in alberta has felt like having a growing target in my back as they start ramping up anti trans rhetoric in canada. it's scary.
Lmao get used to it
There is never a bigot who hates just one group of people. Remember that always.
How about you accept that someone can not want biological males in women's toilets, without being transphobic?
Ah but what groups are acceptable to hate? There is plenty of hatred among those who think themselves as tolerant. Your very statement relies on projecting qualities on to someone and then saying that because they have these qualities they must have other one as well. The implication is that none of these can be tolerated and thus must be opposed. That is the very definition of bigotry. So tell me, what groups of people is it acceptable to hate and why?
@@Snipergoat1 It's wild how you reactionary types always LARP as intellectuals like this lmao
@@Snipergoat1 According to the left, the groups of people that deserve hate are also the people that need protection for their opinion, religion or heritage.
For example, in the Israel conflict with Hamas, it's not the mosques that need protection, but everything with a Jewish connection does, it's very telling once you see it.
Your right, the people who convince themselves that they are the good ones treat others they don't agree with like they accuse others of doing.
@@Snipergoat1 That's the main issue: no group of people with arbitrary traits that are not up to choice or action (ex. religion, race, sexuality) are acceptable to hate. However, you have mistakenly accused me of projection when criticizing those who project onto others. Bigotry doesn't hate just one group of people, as that bigotry will always end up finding excuses to make the bigot in question feel superior by its very nature. If you hate trans people for example, there is nothing stopping you from also hating cis people who either support trans people or express their gender via non-traditional ways. Bigotry cannot be tolerated in any group or person, and the fact you seem to be trying to deflect my concerns of bigotry by pointing fingers at me raises red flags in your own accusations.
And yet rather than JK Row Row apologising, shes quadrupled down now again by saying she'll refuse an apology from Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson for "daring to" support trans rights and support for young people.
man, she really is such a persecuted, oppressed woman isn't she
If being a guy with a trans sibling has taught me anything, it's that trans people are all my family and we're all in this fight together. Excellent video.
This
Eww
LMao i hope your weirdo sibbling becomes a statistic
And come fight us plz
Okay but identifying as Agender, I'd wear the fuck out of a "Gender Atheist" shirt ironically
that does not make sense
I feel like Gender Agnostic fits better unless you don’t believe in gender?
It's truly perfect to complete a redditor costume for a con.
If someone said to me IRL that they were agender, I wouldn't take them seriously.
@@ecnalms851 if someone told me that they were a cis man, i wouldn't take them seriously either.
Holocaust denial from J.K. Rowling kind of makes sense to me, considering the anti-Semitism in the HP books.
Great video, Lily. This reminds me of the book Doppleganger by Naomi Klein, which I'd definitely recommend. She talks about how Naomi Wolf, a former feminist who she happens to get confused with a lot, got sucked into a right wing rabbit hole and ended up buddies with Steve Bannon. In Wolf's case, a main reason she spirals is being opposed to vaccines, especially for covid. I think there are a few gateway issues like this, and transphobia is probably one of the worst of them. Klein brings up the point that some of the right's grievances are real problems, but that their anger is entirely misdirected. In the case of transphobia, many TERFs are women who have experienced real suffering at the hands of men or the patriarchy. J.K. Rowling was abused, for example. But then, rather than calling out the people and systems of power that actually cause the pain, they choose to target a minority that's easier to scapegoat. And once they begin spending time in these parts of the internet and voicing these opinions, they get drawn further and further in.
helen joyce's whole "oh noooo they'll be draining our government's resources for 70 years!! :(" thing was uh................. uncomfortable to hear as a disabled person to say the least. really wonder what she'd say if she was confronted about the ableism in that, not that i'm surprised though
Oh, the hatred of disabled and neurodivergent people is a substantial subtext and occasionally just text to a *lot* of transphobic rhetoric. As I noted elsewhere, Bilek comes out of a strain of primitivist thought which is notoriously hostile towards the disabled, and a lot of more mainstream "concerned parent" trans panic finds its roots in places like Mumsnet, which are notoriously hotbeds for the dreaded Autism Mom subculture. Anecdotally, I've also noticed that when arguing with both trans people and cis people who are normal about trans people, if their interlocutor happens to be autistic, they very quickly get *super* condescending and ableist about that fact where normal reactionaries often aren't.
If she were online? She'd double down. To your face? She'd probably try to find some way to spin it that present company is excluded.
No word about all the cis men that will get gender affirming care when half of them lose their hair. Or all the gender affirming testosterone Joe Rogan has taken for decades. Gender affirming care is only ok when it’s cis people because the problem they have is not with the care, it’s with the existence of trans people. Any arguments that get them closer to no trans people are good arguments to them.
Sorry that ended up longer than I meant it to
Literally the entire shpeal screamed eugenics to me
Honestly having argued with people like Helen Joyce the most common response is just "define woman" deflection, the second most common answer is an admission that the current existence of disabled people is unfortunate but it's "not their fault" unlike those icky trans people who choose to be difficult. Further pushing often gets them admitting that they want to "cure" all disability, not in a genocidey way (at least not one they'd openly admit to) but in a vague magical thinking way like "science will advance to cure all disability, we'll figure it out".
And this is imho can be just as evil & dangerous as advocating to outright kill disabled people because it results in ableism such as people wanting to "cure autism" with whatever "medicine" is available to them. The highly abusive ABA conversion therapy practice was developed, used & defended for this very reason, it's a practice that essentially physically and emotionally tortures autistic children to get them to fit into normal society. Which yanno, does what the people who advocate for it want, it mostly traumatises children into behaving how you want them to, they later go on to have PTSD and the more difficult children are written off as unstable forever but hey, problem solved right? For those who don't conform you can just put them away in an institution so it's someone else's private problem.
18:58 Can you imagine someone saying this about a diabetic person? Hell, you could say this about every elderly person who takes daily meds for heart conditions or blood pressure. A lot of people take meds daily. Should we remove the elderly to lower the burden?
we basically did! gave up on COVID!
The phrase _"unnützer esser"_ comes to mind...
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicosCan you give us the context of that and a rough translation in careful wording, so YT doesn't censor it?
I don't know where you live, @@TheSapphireLeo, but I looked it up, and its literal English translation, "useless eater(s)," has been (Perhaps "was" is more accurate, as I, lately, haven't been able to bear liberal media's status quo apologia or to "debate" conservatives' more blatant fascism) used pretty consistently by conservatives in the US (and abroad? Ex-pats, perhaps?) to refer to people on any number of Welfare/assistance programs.
The way you phrased your question, I get the impression that *you* maybe thought that the commenter you responded to mentioned it as a term that *deserves* to be applied to people who are, in one way or another, infirm...buuuuut, I got the impression that they mentioned it due to how Joyce's comments regarding "lifelong patients" aligns with the Nazis' (long-term) policies regarding "useless eaters."
"Should we remove the elderly to lower the burden?"... uh... soon that may be a very appealing option. lol
I came for the Barbie in the Nazi uniform, stayed for a deep dive into what we consider modern day “feminism”
“I think transgender people are real”
*squints to make sure you’re not using your AI generated self*
I thought I recognised Keith, she did this anti vegan ex-vegan stuff for a while, she claimed to be unhealthy as a vegan, but also claimed to have eaten meat throughout her veganism, before all this stuff. I'm not vegan, but vegetarian. She just had no rationale behind her beliefs.
What a weirdo. Full disclosure, I eat meat because I wasn't healthy as a vegan/vegetarian(I tried both for a good 20 years combined) but looking at the synopsis of one of her books, she thinks that we need animals to rebuild topsoil, but also wants to use guerilla warfare to destroy industrialized society.
Pretty sure the cows can't poop enough fertilizer without big cow still being a thing.
That is so bizarre. Like… was she trying to be an environmentalist who only eats meat from hunted animals? I don’t see how it makes any sense because vegan is basically a statement of “I do not use any animal products that will cause any harm to an animal” for a variety of possible reasons. It might be because your health conditions are made worse by eating meat and dairy. It might be to help reduce your environmental impact. It might be because you are for animal liberation.
Eggs, honey, and wool are a point of contention (where I would say that for honey and wool they do not even typically cause harm to the animals producing those products, while eggs would necessarily be from free range hens as it is clearly harmful to keep chickens in small cages and overly crowded conditions which is typical). Eggs can be argued to be harmful to the environment or certain kinds of nuts can be damaging or are grown with stressful practices like shipping bees between farms, so someone vegan for the reason of not allowing for animal cruelty or environmental concerns won’t eat almond products while someone vegan for health reasons still might. It’s a huge variety of things… that just… it still doesn’t include meat.
She mant she cheated and ate meat anyway, it completely destroyed her argument for saying her own experience proved she needed meat.@@darkstarr984
51:09
PP: "the mass genocide of 60 million Jews and other minority groups."
Me: who were the other minority groups?
PP: ...
PP: >:(
i don’t know if they had time to mention those groups, as this is a 1-hour essay.
They were Romani, Slavs, and Communists (technically included in the Jews section, as Nazis believed all communists were Jews)*
*But they also believed Jews controlled all the banks?? nazis are idiots.
This is just studying the Holocaust in conservative spaces. So ready to focus on Jews and Jewish identity at the exclusion of literally anyone else. It completely obscures the Nazi project.
(6 million?) If you go to the Wikipedia page for Pink triangle and go to reference 5, it'll take you to a UMD site that lists the categories of prisoners at concentration camps and the color of triangle associated with each:
Political Prisoners - red
Jewish Prisoners - yellow
Jehovah's Witnesses Prisoners - purple
Homosexual Prisoners - pink
Roma and Sinti (Gypsies) Prisoners - brown
Criminal Prisoners - green
Asocial Prisoners - black (included lesbians and sex workers)
This is also covered in the book _The Men with the Pink Triangle_ by Heinz Heger.
hehe pp
Ableism is the heart and soul of fascism.
as it seems harder and harder to be hopeful for the future my boyfriend always says "hatred is at its loudest in its death throws" things are changing slowly but surely when the older generations start to die of old age we will see change at a rapid rate just hold on a little longer
thank you for the words of encouragement lego yoda 🥺
This is correct. Minds don't so much "change" and culture doesn't so much "change" as ....well, the individuals that hold to old/conservative ideals....get old and die. Interracial marriage only really _stopped_ being a controversial thing in the late 70s, and not even the biggest modern MAGA ass-hat would dare campaign on it now. We're even now seeing the slow, sad and lonely death of the anti-gay marriage movement. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was considered progressive in the early 90s.
I don't want to suggest being trans is a disability, but the arguments that they need too much assistance from government healthcare and other accommodations could easily be used against people with mental health, nuerodiversity, or physical disabilities.
The phrase _"unnützer esser"_ comes to mind...
@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicosWhat/when's that from? I just remembered a German Nazi party poster saying something like "this disabled person costs 60,000 (???marks???maybe?) a month"... i dont remember the rest
They pay for it, no? Please don't tell me they get it for free? That would be stupid.
@@tempejkl yes we pay for it, it tends to be very time consuming and expensive. why would it be stupid if trans people got gender affirming care for free? it would allow so many to start living their lives as they truly wish to be way sooner, it would help so many people suffering.
@@tempejkl what the hell is wrong with you?
"They aren't evil in the ways they think we are." Everyone out of the kitchen, you're watching a master chef at work
"collaborating with fascists never helps the original cause, because fascists don't show up to help" bless u
brilliant as ever, friend ❤ thank you for having me.
The passages you read might have been the worst ones when it comes to their contents idk how you did it
It’s genuinely terrifying how many Alt right pipeline exist. It’s has infiltrated everything from feminism to yoga and wellness, even certain video game discourse.
Existing in the world makes you liable to be recruited into supporting the status quo.
You should pray for extreme right politics then their would be no nazism racism sexism or other discrimination in legislation, but that would require actual familiarity with history
@@thebruceleefan sorry alternate histories dont count
@@ceryxfigmenti5377 agreed which is why I don’t support your stupid assed political parties revised history
Democrats started the kkk Jim Crow red lining westward expansion and Japanese internment camps, in addition they opposed desegregation bussing the emancipation proclamation and the civil rights act.
But why let actual history sway you
Yeah no it's crazy how many pipelines exist but i don't think it's necessarily have to do with the ideologies themselves, it's rather actual alt righters are co-opting these movements and picking at small cracks to turn them against each other. Remember when gaming was all about playing something cool and having fun? Now when a game is bad we have to instantly go into conspiracy mode and blame woke culture rather than actually critiquing the game. If you said this 10 years ago you would just be considered a crazy far right lunatic, now it's becoming mainstream.
"What is the investment?". Last time I checked corporations only care about market share, so expanding to queer people is just capitalism right?
True, but corporations are run by people and in some cases it really felt like a group within the company pushed in this direction because of ideology, rather than profit. That isn't that out of ordinary, but this time it was on bigger scale, across the economy and sometimes directly against the majority of customers.
Probably the most visible example is the behaviour of Hollywood studios feom few years ago. Back then it was almost a common occurrence that during interviews with directors and other people making film, someone would say something like: "If people don't like changes we made to the franchise, we don't this 'enter label as insult here' types to watch it anyway." If this would be from people who understand the franchise and just wanted to expand or enrich it, while keeping the spirit of it, it would be probably fine. But to often it ended like a bad fun fic.
Some of those people certainly had a good intentions in mind, but it really helped everyone screaming the line of "those SJW types are only interested in pushing their ideology, they see this franchises only as a vessel to get their propaganda to the masses".
"I don't know man, when two things happen at the same time I get really scared."
😂😂
I just cannot get over that when I die, people will have spent all their time around me screeching and freaking out about other people just trying to live their lives while those same people assured that my world burned around me and that I couldn't have children safely or get away from the trauma of religious abuse. because those people felt 'persecuted'. I'm a bisexual cisgender lady and the world truly failed me, how bout u?
religious abuse? Really? Most of the time this word is in bad faith. Infact, i havent seen an example of it being real yet. R*ped by a priest? Abuse, yes. Religious? Probably not.
Also really? The world failed you? You have internet access, electricity, a phone, computer or whatever device you have. Given you are watching this video, you probably live in a western country, you probably have heating, food, and water. Do you have any fucking idea how lucky that makes you?
I'm a female intersex who had surgery at 13. I'm destroyed.
bisexual cisgender ??? wot is that ? is it like normal but greedy
What make you think that the world owes you a God damned thing? How can something fail you that owed you nothing to begin with? So life isn't what you believed it to be. So damned what? What is the point of crying about it? Either you make what you wish to have happen or it doesn't. Your trauma? Survive it and become stronger or break and become nothing. Your choice.
@@Snipergoat1 I wish i could say something but it appears all my comments have been deleted or censored or something.
It really scares me that so many of these women are in the same generation as I am. And you're very right about the class divide and the fact that they're not trying to appeal to existing feminists, but to 'ahum... normal' people. Since I'm a disabled cis woman it's difficult for me to attend protests. But what I can do is talk to people about trans rights. And I do this often because I've been genuinely worried for a long time.
What I noticed is that rhetoric gets watered down to make it more palatable for people my age. But I find it much easier to talk to people who are working class because most of them realize trans people don't hold the power. With middle class people this is more difficult because they're in a mind-state that so much has been taken away from them. And many of them are oblivious to power structures and still believe the system is fair and meritocracy is real. This makes them much more inclined to trust the rhetoric that 'insert minority' is taking away the stuff they deserve, without seeing the dangers or realizing this won't make thing better for them.
This is why the middle class was destroyed tho. It was to originally punish black and brown people for making it. Everybody POOR was making it they buying homes and gaining wealth through sheer hard work. This is why they pit the racists against each other. A lot of know it's the elites, that how they now made it "left versus right" to keep people from realizing it's the elites instead of "eww nazis, eww commies" bullshit. The elites are still in control and still screwing up. The system is fair a lot of people still work hard and make it. The problem is there's too many people not everybody can win and that's why people need to work together instead of constantly being divided by some petty social line that often times don't even define their whole existence.
Trans people described as a "difficulty" is terrifying, and it's also frightening to hear someone say that the fewer of us there are the better.
Are you scared for your life? Or do you think there's nothing wrong with you mentally?
This kind of stuff is why it's so important that we don't only support civil rights for the groups we're a part of. Many of these people start out with aims of liberating women, but now they would rather ally with the people that pose the greatest threat to women just because they hate another minority group.
The phrase "anti-trans mainstream" sends all the wrong chills down my spine.
Cry more
@@gtrdxz Mauld less.
What I find funny is that the traditional gender norms aren't even traditional. I'm M'iqmaq, my people have always had a term for trans folks like me and had much looser ideas of sex and gender. My people were doing fine for tens of thousands of years before being colonized and forced to take on the newer western traditions. They're not even traditional to Europe, or our species, or our early hominid ancestors. They're modern human traditions that have only really existed for a while- and only for the lower class, of course. The upper class have always historically given themselves more wiggle room.
Amazonian warriors were inspired by the Steppe people- the Eurasian warrior women who rode horses and struck fear into the men who fought them.
Even further back, the majority of early settlements we've found show evidence of both men and women purposefully hunting and working together to kill mammoths.
Bonobos are our closest animal relative and they're matriarchal. Chimpanzees have both a dominant male and female... Usually. There are documented cases of female chimpanzees becoming the leader of the troop and chasing off males and defending everyone, including her higher ranking male subordinates, from intruders. Acting and being treated the same as any male leader of the troop.
Funnily enough, not every is "M'iqmaq". (sorry don't know anything about it). I don't have a solid opinion on trans people, but it does make me uncomfortable i have to say. We were colonised by the British, the Anglo Saxons, whatever you want to call them, but we had the same traditions of two genders and obviously no trans people, its not like there was medieval irishmen cutting their cocks off.
Also, i see your last couple paragraphs which are interesting. The reason why gender roles exist is for a couple reasons, but the main one is that they kinda had to. Men are obviously stronger on average, so they would hunt, while women are more emotionally intelligent and also are able to birth children, breastfeed, and are more suited in general to raising children.
Honestly, i don't think gender roles will ever go away. Call me sexist, whatever, but the majority of women are attracted to masculine things that men do, providing, raising children, protecting. While men are attracted to feminine things, raising children, taking care of their partner/others/children, etc.
These aren't inherently male or female things, a woman can do better in many fields than some men, at this point some men are so pathetic that the average woman could probably do better in a physical role despite their initial disadvantage. While a man, can infact, be more intelligent than a woman, despite what some of my former female teachers would have us believe. (although i wont deny women are better at empathy and understanding people).
Gender roles are inherent to society. We must acknowledge this before moving into a new era. I feel so many are in denial about the fact we are two different genders and we cannot interchange naturally.
This is such a mess of a comment, im sorry. I have a mental condition if that helps explain it, i hope that doesnt come off as me using a stupid excuse or something. If you cant understand it, dont bother, i cant understand my writing either.
All of which leaves me with a question: why define yourself by gender at all? Why declare "I am a woman" or "I am a man" if those labels are so relative, fluid, and ultimately meaningless? Why ask to be "seen as a woman", or "treated like a woman", if "woman" doesn't imply anything? What are you even asking for, at that point?
@@tbotalpha8133 you may have noticed (or maybe not, idk) that society categorizes and places expectations onto people on the basis of their gender whether they want them or not. being able to be perceived and treated as the correct gender seems like a pretty obvious win regardless of to what degree you buy into gender roles.
but hey, if you think we should also decrease the overall importance of gender in society, and make it easier for people to more freely express themselves regardless of their gender... congrats, pretty much every queer person agrees with you. there is no conflict between these things.
@@tbotalpha8133 They are not meaningless, my people just have less strict gender norms. It isn't about defining yourself as an other, for my culture, you chose your own gender and decide what pronouns you go by. You are deciding for me what I find meaningless, and there is meaning in something, even if it is by definition fluid.
There are many things in our life we find meaning in that are fluid. Sexuality, spirituality, our feelings for one another, our thoughts on a piece of media, science is fluid and changing as we get new information, our language, our taste in music, and our political ideals; what and who you identify with can change throughout your lives. That doesn't make how you feel about any of those things meaningless.
Your opinion on what makes a thing matter or not is not a universal truth. Our whole natural world is fluid and ever changing, we are fluid, able to adapt and grow and change from day to day and year to year.
Even sex can be fluid in nature. The number of species who fluidly and naturally change from one SEX to another (sex, not gender) vastly outnumber the species who can't. Our world is full of creatures outside of our strict idea of how the natural world works. Such life forms outdate us and still exist alongside us and will be here long after our species is gone.
yeah, I get shit for wearing skirts, having long hair, braids, hair bows etc. as a guy, but stuff like this has been normal for men just like 3 centuries ago, some even more recently, like the "pink is for girls" thing is literally last century
it's silly when people go like "you need to wear pants because nature/God" - bruh, your gender norms are younger than many corporations that exist today, the entire concept of modern masculinity is mostly for making subservient psychopaths who'll submit to their masters while thinking of themselves as superior beings to whatever group needs to be killed (it's military masculinity)
so yeah, I don't subscribe to the modern masculinity, I'm closer to the traditional one (at least among aristocracy) where men were very much the pretty gender, were prudes (not hypersexual as expected from modern men), considered violence beneath them etc. (don't want to sound classist now, I'm very much the societal bottom of the barrel and I'm proud of my serf ancestors, it's just to use the language of the bigots for a moment and show that masculinity, strength etc. are all relative, at some point the creme de la creme men would go "eww" if you started boasting about your big pp and sexual escapades and you'd be considered poor for not wearing make-up and fancy dresses, not "masculine")
'Immigrants being blamed for everything negative' same here in the UK
“The fact that Nazis are protesting them shows just how bad they are!” My goober, that is the opposite of what you should be getting out of this situation. You agree with Nazis. Lol. Not good homie.
What
russia is also blaming their invasion of ukrainian on the lgbt
No they arent
@@tempejkl “nuh uh” isn’t a great response
@@tempejklthey tried. Everyone kinda laughed at them, but they did in fact try this.
@@sophiejones3554 No they did not. Their official justification is to protect the ethnic Russians in Ukraine.
@@tempejkl protect them from what? They weren't being threatened by the Ukrainian government. One of things they've pointed to as a threat to Russians was LBTQ organizations, and at first they tried to lead with that. They got mocked by pretty much everyone including a lot of Russians, so they put that on the back burner and ginned up the threat of right wing extremism instead.
i haven't finished the video yet but this topic is so fascinating to me. i used to be on "radfem" tumblr (when i was like 15-17 it was during covid and it was a DARK time. also i'm genderless now) and radfems being so buddy buddy with conservatives is one of the big reasons why i left the community. i was incredibly dissatisfied with liberal feminism (think: capitalist girlbossism and "plastic surgery is empowering") and that's why terf ideology was attractive to me. i was very young and idealistic and didn't know there were other options. terfs appeared to be at least actually getting angry and talking about patriarchy rather than just trying to sell me products like the instagram liberal feminists i was accustomed to. but the further i waded into the terf swamp, the more i realized that the people i was associating with were fucking insane. i made a comment at one point that i didn't like WOLF because they always associated with conservatives and the response was overwhelmingly "well conservatives are the only ones who take our concerns about trans people seriously!1!!1" that was a big wakeup moment for me. if this movement can so easily throw aside its "feminist values" to work with homophobes and misogynists, is it really a feminist movement?? of course not. like, if conservatives are the only people that agree with you, maybe you're a bit of a conservative yourself...
it's a shame because i still consider myself a radical feminist in the original sense of the word. as in, a feminist who seeks to combat patriarchy at the root. and i do believe the concept of gender is incredibly misogynistic AND transphobic and i am a gender abolitionist. but all these people were calling themselves radical feminists and gender abolitionists and in the same breath saying that being born with a vagina means you are a woman and will always be a woman because it's biology. like, what? didn't we already know that "one is not born, but rather becomes a woman"?? didn't we already know that gender is socially constructed and not biologically innate?? as feminists, haven't we been discussing these things for DECADES? how can you call yourself a feminist and still be so attached to this rigid binary that doesn't need to exist?
anyways, i could talk about my experiences in that community forever but i won't. great video so far :)
I was in a similar boat, though not to a similar extreme. I kinda floated in my left-ism as a black man who was in high school in 9/11, and eventually I've kinda settled into a pragmatic Democratic Socialism as I realized a LOT of supposedly left communities either don't know what the hell they are talking about, or are just cosplaying at leftism.
Electoral Politics is not the end-all-be-all like a lot of neolibs and soft liberals would like to believe, but nor is completely ignoring it in favor or some kind of 'general People's Revolution' while thinking that wouldn't be an insane mire of chaos in a nation this big.
We take chunks and change it as we go, all the while knowing we might have to alter the direction as we better understand ourselves and the systems we construct to organize society.
While I'm glad that you got your way out of TERFism and was able to reconsider your beliefs, I'm a little curious, what exactly *is* gendder abolitionism in your worldview? I've heard it used to mean a variety of positions from people over time so I'm curious. Like, what kind of world do you envision with gender abolitionism? Is it any different from the idea that gender pervades what people get resources, power, etc. and that gender roles are oppressive?
Like, I'm guessing it doesn't envision a world where gender isn't a concept that people think about much. As a trans girl, my idea of my gender is an incredibly important part of how I personally think about myself. Gender exists within me in some way or another, or at the very least that's a much more meaningful way to live my life. And I'm sure that's not something you mean to undermine.
@@andrejg4136this is all so true. i’ve definitely been very idealistic with my politics in the past, like the whole “we need a revolution!!” “how are you going to do that” “idk.. revolution!!!!!!!!” thing. lol. unfortunately it doesn’t look like the General People’s Revolution is going to happen any time soon but a lot of leftists online don’t seem to know that.
This is why I never got into Terf ideology. Reducing women to reproduction is antithetical to feminism in my opinion. Our grandmothers fought against that type of bull, let's not bring it back.
I think there's another reason you may have originally been more receptive to them too.
From what you cite as your issues with liberal feminism, it sounds like you were seeing a lot of the sides where soulless profit mongers coopt ideologies to sell whatever they want.
I saw a video about witchcraft and how some influencers are using it to sell traditional marriage and Christian values to young women.
I've known many leftist and liberal feminists who hate the girl boss narrative and the idea that you can only be empowered through plastic surgery. Like, every single feminist I know, except 1 who literally is a hunbot.
Seeing the marketing shills in the space probably didn't help, especially if you lean more rad fem/anarchist to begin with.
All that said, good on you for seeing that conservatives aren't your allies, just because others accepted them.
“I’m all for equality, BUT…”
Whenever I see conspiracies about the gay or trans minorities running the media, it kinda makes me laugh... Because I actually know what is going on, since I was part of it. I interned for a mid-sized LGBTQ Métis-owned marketing agency in Canada, and we had a lot of projects for larger companies to help them seem more inclusive and all that. There's no minority cabal... It's not that deep, mostly karaoke and RuPaul's on Saturdays.
People who call themselves "allies" run the media, however. Well, that, and those who are using it as a wedge issue to sow division and gain power.
The frog cyborg bit is based on some work by this guy who is quite famous for falsifying results in the frog research community (source: me, a member of the frog research community who has tried to reproduce some of his lab's results - also basically everyone I have asked about his lab)
That sounds like a rabbit hole i wouldnt mind watching an hour long video about
I want to hear about the frog research rabbit hole too. I haven't really looked into frog research much since 2012 (I did my honours thesis on an adjacent subject matter). I hope Project Lazarus helped a little though.
@@Dragonshade64the ribbit hole
@@verybarebonesthere’s a channel here called OKI’s Weird Stories that did a couple of videos on the turning the friggin frogs gay scientist
The perpetual battle between Lily and their hair in this video is an all-timer of a subplot. Truly rivals the legendary battles between the (popular amongst gay men) wrestler AJ Styles and his soccer mom haircut getting into his eyesight every 20 seconds.
I'm a middle aged, cishet, white American woman. I've always considered myself feminist and have had bigoted views due to ignorance.
Despite whatever issues I may have I've seen trans women as natural allies. I always figured that anyone who comes from the relative privilege of male appearance and presentation to find themselves experiencing womanhood would find themselves increasingly pissed off and probably help us pass the ERA. I don't understand hating on trans women. If anyone gets how bad the patriarchy is for both genders, it's them.
This newfangled bigotry scares the shit out of me, and I'm shielded from the worst of it. My kid isn't, and maybe that's one reason, but I know in my gut these people want to come after me too.
I found you through Philosophy Tube because you have the most calming NPR voice and I thought you'd be an enjoyable creator to listen to while I did housework. I did not realize your content would be so high quality and informative, great job on this video!
Day 5 of HRT!!
omg, congrats!
@@lily_lxndr Ty ty
Congrats!
Good for you! 💜
Congrats!!! Can't wait till I'm in your place
That clip at 55:01 is kind of funny. The interviewer asks about using the word people as an act of inclusivity. Bindel replies "it's not inclusive if you're excluding half of the planet"
So... women (or men, whichever she meant lol) aren't people? Ugh, it's brainworms.
I think i'm in the pipeline video watching pipeline rn ngl
The “Zone of Interest” clip juxtaposed with your statement about the banal evil of casual bigotry sent chills down my spine. Excellent essay
Just started the video, but man the Legault describe as the racist uncle is perfect.
I couldn't find a better way to describe him other than Duplessis secret bastard son.
He hates his dad for making him go to church, but he loves all that other stuff 😆
I mean, we know Duplessis had a lot to do with orphans...
I'm well aware of WOLF, as they came to Seattle when I lived in the area. So, they rented out the public library's auditorium and when they had the event, they had a half hours worth of anti-fascist and trans people in the audience who took turns requiring being escorted out. I was one of the last to go. I just stood up and when I got to the bottom row, turned and told them they were all horrible people and doing feminism wrong. They're also not particularly good at identifying actual trans people, as I desperately had to go when we arrived and paid a visit to the ladies without incident. And yes, they associate with the likes of The Proud Boys. I had infiltrated one of their chat rooms and saw them discussing bringing their far right militant friends to do security for the event.
I was at the same WOLF event. I had a “feminist” friend who told me she’d be in Seattle for a cool feminist event, and invited me to go. I’d never heard of WOLF or Megan (and didn’t know what gender critical was either) so I was really confused when I showed up and there were angry crowds and police officers. I don’t honestly remember much from the event except 1) the protestors in the crowd and 2) the few trans folks who stayed until the end of the event, when people could ask questions and some trans people tried unsuccessfully to appeal to the panelists’ humanity and compassion.
All of that is to say, I was pretty green in feminist spaces and I think - while some TERFs do genuinely think they’re feminists and like to role play as martyrs - most folks lean into the feminist label for marketing purposes only to spread terf messages to those who aren’t super into theory and / or don’t know trans people in real life. I think as a result of that I had to unlearn a lot of transphobia that had been spoonfed to me by these gender critical / radical feminist under the guise of genuine concern.
I’m not really sure where I was going with that comment, except to thank you for being present at that event. I’m sure it was deeply uncomfortable for you, but I just wanted to say that there was at least one person attending eventually saw through the b.s. and your protest was part of that process.
@@howlyal wow that's cool to hear that the protest was not in vain. I've been to my share of protests over the decades and it's easy to feel discouraged. I'm glad you got out. Bella ciao!
It may tell you something of your political standing when a city like Seattle is too right wing for you. Sounds like really don't have the perspective required to gauge a political spectrum position as you are sitting on the distant left of Karl Marx end.
@@Snipergoat1 that’s not what they said????? They said that a far-right group was in Seattle, not that Seattle itself was right wing? Like unless I’m missing something that’s a total misinterpreting of the initial comment.
Saying "It's not inclusive if your excluding half of the planet" and then excluding half the planet by saying "Men do not have to ever access abortion. Ever." is baffling to me. You just....you just excluded half the planet...
"Drain on resources...." What?! I'm American, EVERYTHING I've gotten for my transition care has come out of my pocket. Non-subsidized, not covered by insurance. After completing all my medical goals. Do you want to know what my monthly cost for my care is? 60$. That's for the out of pocket cost for my hormone therapy. The same hormone therapy any woman takes that doesn't need birth control. Which really leaves guessing it really isn't about trans people at all.
"as the readers association between trans people and violence grows, gender conformity becomes synonymous with safety, and must therefore be enforced by every institution"
banger fucking script alert‼️‼️‼️
literally saved this quote in my notes app for later
This happened during the 1980s; see Ed Meese and Andrea Dworkin. When I was on the faculty of FSU and therefore had access to great original sources, during the late 1980s and early 1990s I did research into women's movements back to the printing press. I found that (1) this same cycle happens every four decades or so, and (2) nobody ever seems to learn from the last cycle to prevent it from happening the next time. So it goes.
See also the split in the suffragette movement after gaining the vote between those who saw the vote alone as insufficient to women's liberation and became increasingly radicalised against capital and the state (e.g. Sylvia Pankhurst) and those who saw the vote as an opportunity to maintain power within a patriarchal imperial system and became increasingly sympathetic with fascism (e.g. the Mitford sisters).
Andrea Dworkin was actually pro-trans
@@glittersguts This is true. Dworkin was an extremely complicated woman. But the fact that she was in some respects very progressive for her time does not erase her more authoritarian tendencies, nor do the latter erase the former.
Truth there. Goddess help me but I studied the Witch Hunts of Eaely Modern Europe and America and I get very scared when I see and hear the same arguments being used against women now almost word for word. Somehow I do doubt that NFL stars have spent much time reading 500 year old manuals for gynecide, but change "thee" and "thou" for you and it is the same hate and fear and insecurity. Sadly I no longer have the access to those texts...
@@glittersguts Except for the disproportionate number of trans people forced to work as sex workers, whom she did her best to oppress and hurt.
THE ZIZEK SNIFFLE REALLY GOT ME LMAOOO
Mind if I use this for my next song ? I'm working on a feminist - queer animated/music project and I'm so referencing this video in my next song !
Whoa, totally do that and please email me once it's out!
I’m worried about my dad falling for these conspiracies.
I'm worried about my mom. I worry for what she already believes.
My dad is compromised . His conservatism kind of created me
Time for a retirement home 😔
@@davek8706 He’s only 56. And I don’t think that is the answer. I’d like to be able to talk to him to try and get him to understand.
@@sn5806 I don’t know who the tren twins are. But having spoken with my dad it seems he fully believes trans people don’t exist and are a fabrication and that any gender affirming care is harming trans people. So it’s safe to say it’s at least a rocky bit in our relationship.
I already supported trans rights, but the fact that it'll bring us transhumanism makes them even cooler
Real Talk: WOLF's logo would be put to better use as the logo for a werewolf advocacy group.
If our movement is allegedly so well funded, can I have some of that money? Anyone? Please?
They fund any movement. It's to cause division, they dont actually support them. The CIA does this all the time, and dont be fooled by it being an american organisation, MKULTRA was conducted on Canadians too
🚨 Alert alert there’s a new Lily alexandre video alert alert 🚨
Leftists delusional propaganda is soooo coooool