The VERY Messed Up Origins of The Muffin Man

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  • @JonSolo
    @JonSolo  Год назад +120

    Thank you all for watching and for sharing your experiences with the Muffin Man! I love seeing how much this silly song resonates with people from all around the world. 😄 Don't forget to comment your FAVORITE theory about his origins down below! 👇
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    • @allfather9117
      @allfather9117 Год назад +2

      Can you look up Buddha and the history behind his great power. Even in "record of ragnarok" he's depicted as this great being that would even rival Zeus and all the other gods

    • @allfather9117
      @allfather9117 Год назад +3

      I forgot to say please🤦🏽🙏🙏😭

    • @toyloliSpare
      @toyloliSpare Год назад

      Your not thinking with enough layers. A hobo selling cheep muffins laced with opium or cocain or heck, tobacco at the theatre. The muffin man was a drug dealer! 😆🤪

    • @babyoda1973
      @babyoda1973 Год назад

      Ok I subbed 😊

    • @HeatherNickless-vt8zr
      @HeatherNickless-vt8zr Год назад +1

      Howdy hey! I was on a youtube video watching marathon and I mentioned your messed up origins deal to another youtube vid host and my fellow viewers and I hope those viewers got their theories more corrected; that is what I like about your videos; not a piece of information out of place.

  • @raven3067
    @raven3067 Год назад +1293

    “Well she's married to The Muffin Man.”

    • @silverbullet1620
      @silverbullet1620 Год назад +237

      "The Muffin Man?"

    • @Enterprise-D666
      @Enterprise-D666 Год назад +232

      @@silverbullet1620 THE MUFFIN MAN!

    • @raven3067
      @raven3067 Год назад +137

      @@silverbullet1620 *“THE MUFFIN MAN!!!!”*

    • @PauTheDeo
      @PauTheDeo Год назад +138

      ​@@raven3067 "She's married to the muffin man..."

    • @cassiemoyles4177
      @cassiemoyles4177 Год назад +38

      The best comment hahaha

  • @littleshedevl
    @littleshedevl Год назад +304

    Every time someone asks “do you know the muffin man?” I need to shout “THE MUFFIN MAN?!” to hope the person will shout back “THE MUFFIN MAN!”

    • @amethysttttt209
      @amethysttttt209 Год назад +20

      id always shout it back 😄

    • @jacobviator3118
      @jacobviator3118 Год назад +10

      Yessss!!!! On his very first line asking 'Do you know the Muffin Man?' I of course had to respond with 'The Muffin Man!'
      And did so again and again and again every time he asked... I might have a problem 😢

    • @littleshedevl
      @littleshedevl Год назад +5

      @@jacobviator3118 if you have a problem then I need therapy cuz I did the same thing. Lol

    • @trevorcarlisle5447
      @trevorcarlisle5447 10 месяцев назад +1

      I always think of Frank Zappa's song

    • @mskittysraiinbowpass
      @mskittysraiinbowpass 10 месяцев назад +5

      me and my daughter just did this 😂😂

  • @becca7101
    @becca7101 Год назад +734

    I’m so happy you covered this! Shrek literally was a cultural reset in terms of the muffin man I had no idea about the origins of the muffin man

    • @sandradermark8463
      @sandradermark8463 Год назад +13

      I also heard first of the Muffin Man by Frank Zappa and then by the Shrek Saga

    • @briansullivan5908
      @briansullivan5908 Год назад +11

      We used to sing it as kids. that was in the 60s

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Год назад +19

      I knew the muffin man song before Shrek and I was born in the mid 90s

    • @anastasiabennett4854
      @anastasiabennett4854 Год назад +6

      @@msjkramey same here, I was born in 96 and it was one of the go to nursery rhymes before shrek came out

    • @shaniquequa7
      @shaniquequa7 Год назад +5

      Technically they didn't sing the song on sherk but we should know the song

  • @darriendastar3941
    @darriendastar3941 Год назад +403

    Drury Lane was never a *really* rough part of London. That honour went to the other side of Covent Garden where you found St Giles' rookery. Drury Lane was an older part of London. The lane itself dated from before Tudor times and was 'famed' for a pub that's now called The White Hart (Henry VIII is recorded as taking one of his doxies there).
    When the Earl of Bedford, John Russell, was developing Covent Garden to be an upscale gated community for the wannabe posh, Drury Lane was regarded as something of a charming and 'respectable' thoroughfare in the 17th century. By the 18th century, the area had become decidedly lower-rent as fruit sellers moved into Covent Garden and more taverns, brothels and theatres sprung up on Drury Lane and the surrounding streets (think of it as 18th-century Netflix and Chill).
    But it was by no means a slum - it'd probably be closer to New York's Time Square before it was cleaned up.
    Prostitution was a major industry in the area - there used to be printed guides informing gentlemen (and ladies) as to where the best brothels were, which courtesans were rated highest by patrons, what their specialities were, how much they cost in addition to listing the actresses who dabbled in prostitution and the prostitutes who dabbled in acting. (It also listed the whores who'd indulge in lesbian acts - aka 'the game of flats'.)
    Because of this, I'd suspect the likeliest occupation of the Muffin Man was either a pimp or a local guide to the best of bawdiness the neighbourhood had to offer.

    • @Louis-si4ci
      @Louis-si4ci Год назад +29

      Thanks for all that. I love history. Had no idea 😊

    • @Saffron-sugar
      @Saffron-sugar Год назад +29

      And I definitely would not say that Drury Lane was anything like Times Square before it was fixed up. I might compare Trafalgar Square at some point, to Times Square, at a push!
      Drury Lane goes from Aldwych to high Holborn (I think). There are posh parts and there are roughish parts. It’s definitely nothing like the east end, nor does it have the rough history.
      To have any property, anywhere Andrew Lane, particularly in the West End, would be insanely expensive these days.
      There were actually muffin man that used to hack muffins. Particularly before the late 19th century, when more people had their own ovens. I’m not 100% convinced it’s being used as a euphemism.

    • @pinkrose076
      @pinkrose076 Год назад

      👍🏾

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Год назад +3

      I had to look up what doxies meant. Who says that? Lol

    • @lizafrench8455
      @lizafrench8455 Год назад +22

      Or maybe it was a password...a secret phrase to gain entrance. A phrase that is combined with a response.
      Question: Do you know the muffin man
      response: The man that lives in Drury lane
      Heck it could be some spy type stuff too. Just a thought.

  • @thatguy133
    @thatguy133 Год назад +303

    Was not expecting a Muffin Man video today. Always learn something new every time Jon drops a video

    • @naotokamigire-terumi9912
      @naotokamigire-terumi9912 Год назад +1

      Isn't that why we're all here? (-:

    • @LucyFerr000
      @LucyFerr000 9 месяцев назад

      @derekholcomb3414 the video feels so dragged out though, like just get to the point already....

  • @gerardtrigo380
    @gerardtrigo380 Год назад +171

    75 years old and this is the first I ever heard of the Muffin Man. I learned something new today. When I first saw the heading I thought of the Pillsbury Dough boy.

    • @roberthenderson7713
      @roberthenderson7713 Год назад +22

      Wow.... you SERIOUSLY never heard that song?!?😮

    • @gerardtrigo380
      @gerardtrigo380 Год назад +12

      @@roberthenderson7713 Yep. I guess it never made it big in South Louisiana, when I was a kid.

    • @Sorrowdusk
      @Sorrowdusk Год назад +13

      @@gerardtrigo380 I can't believe everyone in America didn't know the Muffin Man. Is there a Cornbread Man? 🤔

    • @SarahGreen523
      @SarahGreen523 Год назад +5

      I guess they tell/read different stories to kids in Southern Louisiana. I grew up in Texas, but my parents came from the east coast. There were nursery rhyme books on the shelf that I learned to read from, so I knew the Muffin Man. Different cultures have different stories, so I get why you'd never heard of that rhyme/song before. There's Jon, educating the masses again!

    • @gerardtrigo380
      @gerardtrigo380 Год назад +8

      @@SarahGreen523 I grew up on Grimm's Fairy tales and Bullfinches Mythology.

  • @ttvmikimoto5475
    @ttvmikimoto5475 Год назад +66

    I had a stepdad from 5-10 years old. When I was little if I missbehaved he told me he would call the 'kiddie police" and they would take me away. I met up with him years later as an adult and got to tell him my entire childhood, I understood it as "the kitty police". I envisioned two cats walking upright in cop uniforms that would come and take me away 😂😂😂, never realized until I was an adult he was saying "kiddie" not 'kitty".

    • @stevenbacon-cheddar9914
      @stevenbacon-cheddar9914 9 месяцев назад +1

      Like puss in boots, but cops…lovin it😂

    • @Avarren
      @Avarren 9 месяцев назад +4

      Did it work though? Kitty police sounds way less scary than kiddie police.

    • @wendychavez5348
      @wendychavez5348 9 месяцев назад +7

      That's an understandable error--I think we have a band of kitty police patrolling our 'hood right now. My cat might even be part of it, since she hangs out with the top Tom. Of course he might be the mussel man & she's the muffin, only she was spayed long ago so, unlikely.

    • @dimitritucker1077
      @dimitritucker1077 4 месяца назад

      I would have made the same assumption. (I have auditory processing issues, so...)

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 Год назад +46

    I'd like to think that the Muffin Man was merely the neighborhood baker.

  • @kathleenhaley7537
    @kathleenhaley7537 Год назад +46

    I live in England and I never heard the muffin man be referred to as a pimp I was always under the impression it was a warning to children about a pedophile during that time

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 9 месяцев назад +7

      Just like Red ridding Hood!😄

    • @outerspaceproduction
      @outerspaceproduction 9 месяцев назад +2

      I'm American and that's what I was told to

    • @1_star_reviews
      @1_star_reviews 6 месяцев назад

      The Muscle Man was a pimp. The muffin man was a pedo

  • @pjb2773
    @pjb2773 Год назад +19

    Having lived on the periphery of the film industry and known that most actors have second jobs and having been aware of Drury Lane theater, it occurred to me that this man could have been an actor bunking in the theater and baking when not acting. The 'muffin man' song would make a perfect advertising jingle and most actors are also musical.

  • @BrownieBiteB
    @BrownieBiteB Год назад +65

    Would love to see you do one on the boy who cried wolf if you havent already. Love the dedication and depth of research you always do for us so us mortals dont have to lmao.

    • @BrownieBiteB
      @BrownieBiteB Год назад +12

      Another o e that I'd love for you to do is the old woman who lived in a shoe with all the kids. Like why does she live in a shoe?

  • @AdamIshak01
    @AdamIshak01 Год назад +16

    The Muffin Man in Shrek and Shrek 2 had such little roles but brought all the joy.
    “Do you still know the muffin man?” “Yeah he lived on Drury Lane, why?” … “AAAH GINGGYYY!!”
    Also I continue to forget this man is a fellow Chicagoan/Illinois human.

  • @Jaybird1306
    @Jaybird1306 Год назад +20

    I think you would enjoy the Nursery Crime series by Jasper Fforde. The Big Over Easy, has Jack Spratt and Mary Mary investigating the murder of Humpty Dumpty, and the sequel, The Forth Bear, has them investigating the death of Goldilocks, with a cameo from the Gingerbreadman!

  • @fieryblaze75
    @fieryblaze75 Год назад +39

    I really should know better than to drink anything when watching your videos. You always say something that makes my drink come out of my nose from laughing so hard. I love your show!

    • @JonSolo
      @JonSolo  Год назад +8

      lmao LOVE to hear that my silly sense of humor works for someone 😂 thanks for watching Tanya!!

    • @fieryblaze75
      @fieryblaze75 Год назад +2

      @Jon Solo glad I got the notification this time. I'm subscribed, but haven't gotten any notifications for months.

  • @SwampNymph522
    @SwampNymph522 Год назад +36

    I’m convinced that nursery rhymes are creative ways ppl shared historical happenings in the past.

  • @SallyLovejoy
    @SallyLovejoy 9 месяцев назад +9

    The City I lived in as a child actually had a street called Drury Lane. When I was about 4 years old, I went with my Mum who needed a dress altering. When she told me the seamstress lived in Drury Lane, I asked her if we could also buy muffins from the Muffin Man! I couldn't understand why she was laughing.

  • @jefftate9169
    @jefftate9169 Год назад +7

    "Alright Norman get me another muffin."
    "bUT iT's nOt mUFfiN tImE SiR!"

  • @madelinerock6951
    @madelinerock6951 Год назад +154

    Okay, I’ll tell you. Do you know the muffin man?
    The muffin man???
    tHe MUfFiN MaN!!!

  • @Saffron-sugar
    @Saffron-sugar Год назад +79

    “English muffins“ are almost impossible to find in the UK. I’ve never seen them. They look similar to crumpets, but they taste different and they have a different texture.
    There is some debate as to whether or not the muffins that the muffin men used to hawk were actually like the “English muffins“ found in America, or not.
    I looked at all pictures of them online, from the 19th century, but I couldn’t tell.
    I actually think the rhyme is about an actual muffin man selling actual muffins. Not the most exciting idea. But likely

    • @rebeccamorris3955
      @rebeccamorris3955 Год назад +7

      People in England don’t eat those. That’s an American Invention.

    • @deetanner7153
      @deetanner7153 Год назад +6

      You walk into a French Café and order Fries, not French Fries....you go into an English bakery and ask for Muffins, not English Muffins.....yes, there are muffins in the UK but there's also cup cakes....oh, crumpets and muffins are two different beasties...... BHAhahaha

    • @penismightier4303
      @penismightier4303 Год назад

      ​@@deetanner7153 You just made me realise what my Greek girlfriend meant when she nervously told me she wanted to try some "style" sex the other day.

    • @Draggonny
      @Draggonny Год назад +12

      ​@rebeccamorris3955 Yeah, we do. They're like a dense, flatish bread bun. We toast them and spread them with butter. You can get them in bigger supermarkets like Asda, Tescos, Morrisons and Sainburys. Lots of bread brands make them, like Warburtons and Kingsmill. They're just called muffins here though. Even McDonald's serve them such as the Sausage and Egg McMuffin.

    • @sprinkleddonuts6094
      @sprinkleddonuts6094 11 месяцев назад +1

      The rhyme is about :
      The Drury Lane Killer - Fredrick Thomas Linwood
      Would give Muffins to children to lire them in before brutally raping and murdering them… that is where the rhyme came from…

  • @LadySamurai88
    @LadySamurai88 Год назад +68

    Hahaha as a Dutch person i have to laugh how you pronounce Scheveningen 😂
    Not laughing like “what an idiot” tho cause it is a really difficult word to pronounce for English talking people bc of the CH that we pronounce as a Dutch G and the G is a difficult letter to pronounce.

    • @annabel185
      @annabel185 Год назад +4

      Hahaha yeah I laughed in a "that's so cute" kinda way :)

    • @LadySamurai88
      @LadySamurai88 Год назад +2

      @@annabel185 Yeah that is indeed a better thing to say “laughed in a cute kinda way” lol

    • @timdehaan2887
      @timdehaan2887 Год назад

      Haha, same here

    • @veravaneijk
      @veravaneijk Год назад +1

      Yeah, I kinda feel bad for people who live outside of the Netherlands who try to say the name of a city😂

    • @LadySamurai88
      @LadySamurai88 Год назад

      @@veravaneijk Hahaha yeah 😂

  • @JenFoxworth
    @JenFoxworth Год назад +10

    my son was randomly singing the song in a gas station last week, and him and the cashier got into it, my son claiming he would eat the muffin man, instead of his muffins, and he wasn't safe, no matter what lane he was on. It was.... something, all right. XD

  • @lunarking8896
    @lunarking8896 Год назад +4

    its so hilarious how Jon looks around for youtube admin before saying "p***y" and censors it anyway just to be safe

  • @darkstrago4468
    @darkstrago4468 Год назад +46

    I'm glad you made this episode, I love your channel, man, and your research is fantastic. And yeah, the muffin man is a PIMP.

    • @quintenwhyte6660
      @quintenwhyte6660 Год назад +5

      So... The song The Muffin Man is a 19th century equivalent of 50 Cent's "P.I.M.P"?

  • @ryanvandermeijs753
    @ryanvandermeijs753 8 месяцев назад +3

    I’m Dutch and I had this friend during high school, we had an assignment where we needed to submit a picture of ourselves and he submitted a picture of him with a plate of mussels. So since then we’ve been calling him the musselman.

  • @DragonSlayer1417
    @DragonSlayer1417 Год назад +19

    That's so interesting! I kinda like the idea of the muffinman being a murderer cause it would kind of tie in to parents telling their kids. That and i can see teachers coming up with rhymes to tell children as a sort of memory device. For it to be so well known in a place full of people, no doubt the rhyme would be refering to something either good or bad. Then over time, the good or bad wasn't completely horrifying or blessed, but kids still referred to the little rhyme for fun and it just lost it's true meaning.
    Great episode as always! Thanks man! :D

  • @clarissathompson
    @clarissathompson Год назад +15

    "That's a Greek word meaning, ' Sexy food'!" OMG, I almost spit out my lunch...hilarious LMAO!

  • @LegendsGhostOfficial
    @LegendsGhostOfficial Год назад +8

    Just a comment on the "lives in Drury Lane" line: I've heard that in British English, it's common to say someone lives in a street to mean the same thing as saying they live on a street in US English. I actually looked this up on a few different forums about differences between UK and US English.
    I do like the idea of someone making his home in the theater and becoming a local celebrity, though.

  • @bubby-un34benny-un46
    @bubby-un34benny-un46 Год назад +31

    Can you cover the dark history of the sandman of the folklore please and thank you. And keep up the good work. And I love your videos.

    • @briansullivan5908
      @briansullivan5908 Год назад +2

      Neil Gaiman or Spiderman 3 version. I'm voting Gaiman. 😁

    • @sonicfanboy3375
      @sonicfanboy3375 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@briansullivan5908The Sandman is a folkloric character who puts magic sand in your eye to put you asleep

    • @briansullivan5908
      @briansullivan5908 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@sonicfanboy3375 I know that, but you didn’t answer the question. Superman 3 or Neil Gaiman? Sorry Spider-Man 3 is a movie starring Tobey Maguire and Neil Gaiman is the creator of the Sandman comic book series. You should really read it. Spider-Man 3 can go either way I liked it most people not so much.

  • @chloermartin
    @chloermartin Год назад +9

    Also, I know you’ve done a video on the little mermaid/Ariel, but I don’t think you’ve talked about Sirens! Human bird female creatures that eventually became more known as mermaids. The mythology is so interesting!

  • @loriswilliams5481
    @loriswilliams5481 Год назад +18

    My mom told me that my dad was a muffin man because he munched on her muffin every other day my 13 year old self didn't know what that meant until I got older because I thought dad just loved her baking skills lol 😅😂😊

  • @deejaepjs
    @deejaepjs Год назад +4

    13:13 I've heard that, very similarly, that The Muffin Man Rhyme was created to warn kids because he would kidnap them with his muffins (and sometimes on string), and would be whisked off, never to be seen again....So not necessarily a murderer, but I guess...

  • @InThisEssayIWill...
    @InThisEssayIWill... Год назад +3

    The current rising trend of using the Johnathan frakes gifs from beyond belief is excellent 👌 top tier

  • @porcelainboy264
    @porcelainboy264 Год назад +8

    😂 my flatmates have recently started doing the muffin man bit from Shrek to each other, to the point where one has decided she's the muffin man. Perfect timing, Jon

  • @echo4476
    @echo4476 Год назад +3

    Thanks for taking so much time in your research Jon Solo 😊

  • @Ace-ace-baby
    @Ace-ace-baby 10 месяцев назад +1

    “THE MUFFIN MAN”😂 I love how he says it😂

  • @forestgrump4723
    @forestgrump4723 Год назад +2

    I think it’s most likely a playful song about the way people would banter about other townsfolk and share stories. “Hey do you know Joe?” “Joe?” “Yea, Joe. You know, lives down 1st street?” “Oh yea I know Joe!” Que some bit of juicy gossip about Joe. This would also lend to it becoming a children’s game wherein they go around asking people if they know this person or that.

  • @loneronin6813
    @loneronin6813 Год назад +6

    Honestly, I half-expected the "real" muffin man to end up being some kind of cannibalistic baker who pulled off some Sweeny Todd-style muffin selling stuff or something along those lines, so the serial killer angle doesn't surprise me. It seems like a lot of various seemingly innocent things at least have theories about them being somehow related to serial killers and the like.

  • @hopegrimsley3427
    @hopegrimsley3427 Год назад +3

    It’s been a hot minute since I’ve watched one of your videos (just because I’ve had competing priorities) however, I definitely appreciate the Jonathan Frakes/Beyond Belief love (13:01, 13:04, 13:09) Thank you!

  • @michiamamomimi
    @michiamamomimi Год назад

    Been looking forward to this one! Thanks @ Jon Solo

  • @TaiJendamNation
    @TaiJendamNation 10 месяцев назад

    I love all your videos :) I especially enjoyed 4:05+ on today's video, which caused me to stop my work and roll it back to see if it was just an odd point you were being amusing on with the pronunciation or if it indeed was... well, basically what you said. Then I listened to it a few more times while laughing like a nut. Keep being awesome, Jon.

  • @katrinajacksonmiller9038
    @katrinajacksonmiller9038 Год назад +7

    I love your videos, Jon. They are amazing.

  • @infinitumneo840
    @infinitumneo840 Год назад +5

    The Muffin Man is one of my favorite urban legends. The ambiguity makes it even more intriguing.

  • @Fnafiac
    @Fnafiac Год назад

    It’s been years since one of your videos popped up in my feed. Glad to see you’re still making videos!

  • @hhiimmddoo
    @hhiimmddoo Год назад

    Oh my gosh dude i stopped watching lore videos for a long time and your channel was the first channel that i watched. It was mainly star wars if I believe. Im sorry to say i forgot your channel existed but you just popped up in my recommended and i am turning in notifications to that doesn’t happen again. Im glad you’re still posting!!

  • @yamidom9134
    @yamidom9134 Год назад +3

    👏👏 This has been the hardest story to find out. I have tried looking and there are tons of stories about baking and bakers👏👏

  • @jonkirkup6352
    @jonkirkup6352 Год назад +2

    Great video as always.
    I found a RUclips video by a guy called Jonny Valentine which is also excellent and explains what life was like as a muffin man!
    Apparently, the muffin men rang a bell but the British Parliament banned them from ringing it in the street.
    I don't think I can add a link here without it being blocked but it's definitely worth a look.
    Top work Solo Fam

  • @JAYNINJA1717
    @JAYNINJA1717 7 месяцев назад +1

    John - “not a single one of you watching can tell me who he was, where the song ab him came from…” *pauses video*
    me - “he really just called me out like that”

  • @ciarau12
    @ciarau12 Год назад +3

    This notification just made me gasp but in the best way 😂 hope you're all having a good week! And thanks for the video Jon!

  • @imogencory9591
    @imogencory9591 Год назад +4

    when you briefly mentioned Sweeney Todd I wondered if you could do an origins explained on another famous musical the fantom of the Opera. It's my favourite musical and I think you doing a video on it would a lot of fun to watch. Love your videos Jon. ❤

    • @l1277
      @l1277 9 месяцев назад +1

      The Phantom of the Opera is based on a book. I'm not sure there's much else to say about it.

    • @ameliaroseillustrations
      @ameliaroseillustrations 5 месяцев назад

      @@l1277 I once read that the author Gaston Leroux based his book on a real person who lived in the sewers of the Paris Opera House (it might be true or a legend, no one really knows).

  • @djlabs00
    @djlabs00 Год назад

    13:07 i’ve been looking for this show for like three months and my mom was convinced it didn’t exist because I couldn’t find it. Urban Legends, i love that show

  • @karlmiller7188
    @karlmiller7188 Год назад

    I love your coverage of the subject!

  • @YellowBear-kx1ff
    @YellowBear-kx1ff Год назад +6

    Because the Muffin Man is the one who made the Gingerbread Man in Shrek, is he an allusion to the old woman who made the titular character in the original Gingerbread Man fairy tale?

  • @GrandCorsair
    @GrandCorsair Год назад +5

    Everytime I heard the muffin man I think about that episode in Dexter's lab when he dad was addicted to his wife's muffins. 😏

    • @TommyCashLover420
      @TommyCashLover420 2 месяца назад

      "I love those muffins more than life itself!"

  • @maxm.m.7219
    @maxm.m.7219 Год назад +2

    As a Dutch-speaker, hearing him mumble through the pronunciation of 'Scheveningen' made me chuckle. It reminds me of "In the beninging" or "Klaatu, Barada, Nihfrngtu!"

  • @terynjacobus8733
    @terynjacobus8733 Год назад

    Love your videos, dude. Thank you!

  • @chloermartin
    @chloermartin Год назад +18

    I would LOVE to see a video on Valkyries (Norse mythology) and/or the Amazons (Greek Mythology)!
    I have a soft spot for Norse mythology, and I love your series on it thus far!
    I absolutely LOVE your videos, and as an aspiring author, it’s so refreshing to hear the true origins of where our stories come from! Keep up the amazing work!
    Edit: the topic of what the Norse Vikings were actually like also sounds interesting! How they dressed, culture, etc. I’ve heard that Hollywood gets it wrong most of the time (surprising no one lol), but I haven’t done much research myself.

    • @silverbullet1620
      @silverbullet1620 Год назад +2

      Maybe the Amazons vs the Valkyries as DC Comics intended it.

    • @chloermartin
      @chloermartin Год назад +1

      @@silverbullet1620 Ooooh I didn’t even know the DC comics included both! Interesting!

    • @silverbullet1620
      @silverbullet1620 Год назад

      @@chloermartin I am a Historian. I graduated from College where my study was Comic Book history. DC Comics have had both since 1946. Wonder Woman fought them. They were used in the Origin of the Justice Society, being brought by the big bad of World War II in 1976. When DC rebooted after the Crisis, one Valkyrie was an antagonist in Young All-Stars. It wasn't until 2017 did DC really have them fight each other.
      By the way, I am a writer also. I am creating my own DC Head Canon which has a lot of ideas bleed together. I even throw in some Marvel characters, Mortal Kombat, and Power Rangers. I'm trying to make the Valkyries look more like good girls rather than villains.

    • @psychokinrazalon
      @psychokinrazalon Год назад

      He already did a video on valkyries.

    • @gewoonik687
      @gewoonik687 Год назад

      Look to the one about Thors daughter. A big part of that one is about Valkyierd if I remember correctly

  • @YellowBear-kx1ff
    @YellowBear-kx1ff Год назад +9

    “Well, she’s married to the Muffin Man.”
    Who is SHE?

    • @Yarott75
      @Yarott75 Год назад +2

      The Muffin.

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 9 месяцев назад +1

      The one who cooks the human meat 🍖 pies?

  • @jonnylocc8553
    @jonnylocc8553 Год назад

    I love your videos watch them as soon as i see they come out, always gets me with a good chuckle where i least expcet it!!! 🤣

  • @nw1994
    @nw1994 Год назад

    I have been watching these for the pays couple of days and I love them. Also the fact that you are in Illinois now is kind of cool

  • @ld4206
    @ld4206 Год назад +3

    Hey Jon maybe you can do a video on The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

    • @garveyneal1672
      @garveyneal1672 Год назад

      Also The Ant and the grasshopper and the Horse’ Mistake?

  • @missme8674
    @missme8674 Год назад +3

    I was today years old when I learned that muffin means 😺 . That's what I'm taking from today's episode! 👍🏾

    • @VictoriaEMeredith
      @VictoriaEMeredith Год назад +1

      The first time I heard the term was the Run DMC / Aerosmith remix of “Walk this Way.” Delightfully filthy.

  • @Eddieavina123
    @Eddieavina123 Год назад

    Love your video, Jon Solo

  • @francinamanning2320
    @francinamanning2320 11 месяцев назад

    John I have to say you are so informative and SOOO Hilarious 😂! Love your videos! Keep up the good work 👍!

  • @kimstevens5156
    @kimstevens5156 Год назад +17

    Hi, Jon. Love your videos! About a week before this video posted, I saw "The Chilling Story Behind the Muffin Man" posted by Hammerson Peters. You should check it out, it's definitely a wild alternate version of the origins of the nursery rhyme.

    • @marenwilliams2787
      @marenwilliams2787 Год назад +1

      I saw that video- it came out on April 1st..

    • @boojum1769
      @boojum1769 10 месяцев назад

      a ripping yarn 👍🏼

  • @tannervassar_macey7470
    @tannervassar_macey7470 Год назад +3

    Never knew the origins of the muffin man.

  • @lavagod11
    @lavagod11 6 месяцев назад

    Great video on a great topic, gave me a lot to think about. the thought that a rhyme about a pimp being taught to and sung by children is truly messed up. I am shocked that you didn't include a clip of the little Brody boy from JAWS singing the Muffin Man song. Anyway great job as always.

  • @pumirya
    @pumirya Год назад

    Thanks for another entertaining and informative video. Keep up the good work.😊

  • @evilbunnyfromalbania3281
    @evilbunnyfromalbania3281 Год назад +3

    Since your looking at nursery rhymes, i would like to see your take on jack horner

  • @halg3625
    @halg3625 Год назад +4

    Can you tell us the actual origins of this popular Japanese children's song?
    "Tan Tan Tanuki
    No kintama wa
    Kaze mo nai no ni
    Bura bura"
    It means, "Tan Tan Tanuki's balls, even when there is no wind, they swing swing"
    Seriously, tanuki lore focuses on their giant testicles, and how they use them as wheelbarrows, parachutes, weapons, etc. Mario wore a tanuki suit. It's one of his most famous power ups.

  • @dean0481
    @dean0481 Год назад +1

    I lost it at ‘Scheveningen’
    It kinda sounded like Jon didn’t want to face the ggg sound :,)

  • @monicawilkins9956
    @monicawilkins9956 Год назад

    I’ve been waiting for this

  • @yolman25
    @yolman25 Год назад +7

    I love that scene in Shrek. Thanks again for the informative theories. PS: can't believe you achieved to talk about pu$$y in a video about a children's nursery rhyme 😅

  • @hypnotherapy69
    @hypnotherapy69 Год назад +3

    I first heard of the muffin man from the colaboration record with Captain Beefheart and Frank Zappa🤣. Dad raised me and we almost exclusively lisstened to Dr Hook and Frak Zappa when I was growing up, guess it could have gone either way I might have ended up hating their music but I love it insted

    • @sandradermark8463
      @sandradermark8463 Год назад

      I also heard first of the Muffin Man by Frank Zappa and then by the Shrek Saga

    • @MrTaxiRob
      @MrTaxiRob Год назад

      Bruce Fowler on trombone, Napoleon Murphy Brock on tenor sax and lead vocals, Terry Bozzio on drums, Tom Fowler on bass, Denny Walley on slide, George Duke on keyboards, Captain Beefheart on vocals and soprano sax and madness.

  • @cherylsmith4826
    @cherylsmith4826 10 месяцев назад

    I appreciate that you over analyze - sets me wondering

  • @mecahhannah
    @mecahhannah Год назад

    Awesome thanks as always

  • @jimsus69
    @jimsus69 Год назад +5

    I thought it was something to do with homelessness.. like the ragamuffin man 😂 and I've never heard of the term "coxcomb" which you mentioned.. 😆 but there is a term called "Cock Scum" meaning Penis Scum or Filth😆
    Referring to the dead skin under a mans foreskin that's not been cleaned..
    I'm from East London, land of the cockney.. and I can confirm, "coxcomb" is definitely not how it was spelled 😂
    And I thought "Dreary Lane" meant a dark lane.. because Dreary means dark or dull.

    • @fabrisseterbrugghe8567
      @fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Год назад +1

      All roosters have coxcombs. It's a key ingredient in certain pates.

    • @jimsus69
      @jimsus69 Год назад

      @Fabrisse ter Brugghe I've never heard of that. But thanks for the correction, if it's true I stand corrected..
      The word cock meaning penis itself, also comes from the word cokrel I think mostly because of their chin bit that looks like a ball sack 😆 so it doesn't surprise me lol
      I can tell your American, but in England we don't call Male Chickens Roosters, we call them "Cockerells." Hence the term "Cock a doodle do" instead of "Rooster rudy Roo?" I guess.
      So if you're correct.. what exactly is a Coxcomb? And how come we don't use the term here in England, yet you apparently do in America.. and the song were talking about comes from East London, England? 😕 🤔

    • @fabrisseterbrugghe8567
      @fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Год назад

      You can find the word coxcomb in Shakespeare. It was used as an insult for a vain man, usually one who pretended to fight.
      I started school in Ruislip before moving to the U.S. and returned to London for Uni. Covent Garden was where I hung out back in the dark ages because I was a theatre kid. I'd hardly call that area East London. I don't think you get into the E postcodes until you cross into the square mile.

  • @tayloredwards4968
    @tayloredwards4968 Год назад +4

    Please do a video on the phantom of the Opera

  • @davereynolds6965
    @davereynolds6965 Год назад +2

    Unless I can get this DeLorean running, I don't think we'll ever know for sure 😁

  • @carywaltonjr.9671
    @carywaltonjr.9671 Год назад

    This is one of my favorite channels I've been coming here for years

  • @tsizontwitch7250
    @tsizontwitch7250 Год назад +4

    1st

  • @aspadestelevision3719
    @aspadestelevision3719 Год назад

    l always thought this would be a good one for you to cover. Has a wacky accepted theory about the origins. So this is a perfect fit for you.

  • @andreajanota6258
    @andreajanota6258 Год назад

    I have been to three Drury Lane locations. We had our graduation dinner theatre at the Drury Lane on Archer ave. On the south side.

  • @godhasgas
    @godhasgas 7 месяцев назад

    Good one Jon!

  • @kylergorder8303
    @kylergorder8303 Год назад +1

    When he first said "do you know the muffin man" did any one else imagine the gingerbread man screaming THE MUFFIN MAN?

  • @oncaphillis
    @oncaphillis 10 месяцев назад +1

    "Some people like cupcakes better. I, for one,
    Care less for them!"

  • @PinkSakuraBunnie
    @PinkSakuraBunnie 10 месяцев назад

    Ha! I know the Druery Lane theater you went to, I used to pass it everyday on my way home from work when I worked up in Woodale and Itasca (I work from home now). Funny, I never expect ppl I listen to on RUclips to live near or somewhat near me (Durery Lane is about 40 mins to an hr from my home in NW Indiana depending on traffic, but even my corner of IN is considered the "Chicagoland" area) 😅 Sometimes it's a small world after all lol

  • @twistedmindssweettea
    @twistedmindssweettea Год назад +2

    Fun fact for you...ALL nursery rhymes and children's songs were made as tales of caution for kids. Ring around the rosey was made about plague, fairy tales were actually horror stories to caution kids until Disney & overprotective parents turned them into all "sunshine & rainbows".
    Leaving kids niave and more trusting of strangers then they should be

  • @galloe8933
    @galloe8933 Год назад +2

    But to see it in another light, the muffin man makes one less mouth to feed, so I think he was like a Victorian anti-hero who would save the day, not the way you wanted it, but the way you needed it.
    That’s why lil’Timmy is gone now, to save you from starving.
    - I am the night, Guvna!

  • @Shadowluigi-pj9nq
    @Shadowluigi-pj9nq Год назад +2

    What I want to know is why he's called the Muffin man when he clearly creates living gingerbread

  • @desiq1167
    @desiq1167 Год назад

    Well, if you look at the time of the song, it may be in a Victorian era. Work houses, wars, pandemics etc... must come to weigh on this dark nursery rhyme. I love these vids you make. It wakes up my inner researcher. Im gonna do my due diligence for a deeper understanding of the importance of nursery rhymes. The correlation of passing down messages, history, main events and politics. The psychology behind the adage

  • @DrDolan2000
    @DrDolan2000 Год назад +1

    Only ever knew his title. I also assumed he was the one who always baked the Gingerbread Man until I saw your video about Gingy

  • @gWeNdELyn143iluvu
    @gWeNdELyn143iluvu Год назад

    His videos never disappoint

  • @jerneymantel7826
    @jerneymantel7826 Год назад

    It's fun to see the rhyme about the mussel man, as a kid I have singed that song so much. At my school we did also song "... mag ik over steken" (= '... may I cross') at gym time to ask if we could run from side to side. After that question you asked how (which would always be a weird answer) and then hope you didn't got caught during the run. Sometimes the mussel man was mixed in this game.
    (I am also aware this might sound weird to people who are not from the Netherlands.)

  • @_LifeofDy
    @_LifeofDy 8 месяцев назад

    Never did I expect that my favorite part of my favorite movie would be connected in any way to the place I grew up in. Which is hilarious because I did know there was a Drury Lane in Illinois

  • @crimsonffire
    @crimsonffire Год назад +1

    Slipping a Micky finn would be interesting to see where that comes from.

  • @indigovae3579
    @indigovae3579 Год назад +2

    For some reason, when I was younger, I knew the rhyme as the Muffin Man living on _Baker's_ Lane. Might just've been me filling in for not remembering the name of the actual lane, but I'm curious to know if this is a shared experience or not

  • @imbouttabus
    @imbouttabus 8 месяцев назад

    Aaaah i the "MotherGoose" illustration brings back ao many memories.

  • @lv4tmnt90
    @lv4tmnt90 Год назад

    England had restrictions on baking bread for the masses. Most field workers lived completely on bread. Wheat substitutes, even potatoes, had to be approved by the government before it could be sold as bread.

  • @mstrawn69
    @mstrawn69 7 месяцев назад

    I'm pretty sure you took the picture in front of the Drury Theatre prior to 15 August 2022 because I took one of the antennas, that's in the picture, off of that tall glass building before eating a huge dinner at Gaetano's.