My brother and I just started scraping and yesterday we got 30 free computer monitors. Took 6 hours to strip. Will find out today what all that work was worth. Here's to hoping it was worth it. We just love ur videos. We learn so much.
Thanks so much, I love making them! 😊 I hope you do alright on them, I don’t have a good buyer for Ewaste boards so I don’t pick them up. Nice strip of gold fingers in each of the flatscreens though.
A friend just sent me a video this morning where they used that same tool but split the whole stator right in half then pulled the windings out. No grinding!
During the video I was screaming omg, secure the vice. Omg cut one side with the grinder first. Omg wrench and impact first. But I watched all the way and you redeemed yourself. LOL. It is some work no doubt but with the right tools and techniques it's worth it. You've proven that. Next time it will be easier. Thanks for sharing the video!
M8 you're a true junkie with power tools . You make life look so easy , hence I enjoy watching you at work and break into a sweat , while you're working . Keep up the good work. God bless y'all.
I picked up the Bosh 8.5 amp last week. Game changer. You will want to cut a notch (check mark), in the bit to help grab both rows of windings when hammering.
I did the same thing for our shop and we have verytrong electric wire sheers and Also an angle grinder and Dremel will help go a long way. I took about 1 hour and I got about 5xs the amount done.
I'll give you a tip to speed things up.. I used to scrap for many years.. Do it like an assembly line, do all of one thing, then to the next then next.. IE.. First remove all the screws, nuts & bolts; Then do all the slicing the covers off; always making separate piles of same scrap; cut (copper/aluminum) ends off of all; pull remaining copper/aluminum out; further clean cast aluminum housings.. If you just do one motor at a time you are wasting your time.. I used huge 55 gal barrels and had like 5 or more full when I started my cleaning process, when you do just one part at a time, you get faster as you go, you get a rhythm going.. It took me a few years to figure that out.. I fully cleaned everything till I had barrels full of just clean copper, aluminum, brass, steel & so on also had each separated like copper, from no.1, no. 2, all bright & coated; Aluminum in cast, plate, extruded & cans.. I never took in unclean metals, you don't make money that way.. I thank you for sharing. I don't want to sound critical, I just wanted to share how I done it and made a very good living doing it.. Also never sell when prices are low, just hoard it till they come up...
I don’t take that to be critical, that’s a really helpful tip! I did find the same to be true when I pulled five of them out and did essentially that. There’s lots of points where I could optimize but the batch system is definitely the way 👍
@@thubprint I agree.. I did that too.. I always waited until I had at least 3 barrels full to start first part of cleaning motors.. I did the same with transformers and other things.. After a few hours of running alley's and dumpsters, I would separate what was already clean from what needed more cleaning, like microwaves, fan's old school tv's and such.. I normally took a load in to the scrap yards on Fridays.. I checked daily on what the current prices were.. I never sold anything unless it was at least above a certain price point, when below I horded until it came up... I have been watching some of your past video's.. I like that you are showing others how to make some money by scrapping and in our own way making the world cleaner.. I wish I was in better health so I could do it again, I don't need the money, but I loved doing it.. I loved the fact that I could make lots of money on what others threw away.. Just a bit of hard work.. Thank you again for sharing... There is also good money in smelting down some metals into ingots..
Sweet! Love seeing progressive technique improvements you're discovering and sharing. Fyi, the vibration from the e hammer can cause some carpel tunnel problems in the medium to long run, don't forget to always be watching your grip and listen to your body when things start hurting or feeling numb. Thanks for the channel brother!
@@thubprint You can buy anti-vibration gloves as well. I use them when I'm sawing or using air tools a lot. You don't want "Raynaud's phenomenon" in the Canadian cold, though that would be more of a concern if you were doing that day in and day out.
I was gonna fight you over the validity of being the first commenter for grammar. However your name.. it worked. Peace and love homie keep fighting the good fight! ☮
a. use the grinder plus hammer drill b. lay a tarp down to catch dust also secure that vice to something, it will help SO much, i could tell you were losing lots of time and the hammer drill has less effect if all it does is move the vice ;) great video though!
Loved the video my friend. I've got 2-3 times that in motors to finish processing myself. Everything got put on hold this fall due to my foot surgery, Dad's hip surgery weather, Temps. But I got an air chisel and new hose for Christmas. lol. to do exactly what you did here. Been itching to finish mine up. Thanks for the inspiration my friend. As always you keep it simple and real. See you on the Scrapping Trail.
Heck yeah buddy! Hope both of you have recovered to as good as new, or close to it 💙 Just don’t hurt yourself doing all the motors! As one other suggested I’m going to bolt my vice to a heavy stump, I think that would be the right height and conserve energy by not walking around
@@thubprint We are for sure. Thank you. Got mine bolted to a picnic table outside already , 150 foot hose plus a 70 lbs stripping machine that takes multiple size wires. All new toys. Like I said had to stock pile due to the surgeries but, brother did I stock pile. 2 bay garage. Just waiting on a really nice temperature day to start work. Instead mean time still collecting just been processing the sheet iron until then. I do this for my Scouts 3 groups. We're going to do 2 drop off days and I collect for the bigger items. Last year I processed 15,000 lbs of sheet iron alone. From this and a hospital donating retired items bed, computers, etc, all old equipment a pole barn full. I'm totally stoked for this season.
It hasn’t weakened it noticeably? I was worried about making it unusable, I’ve seen people who tried that on their shovels while tree planting and it never works out, chips the edge off on the first rock
An interesting learning experience for all. I am impressed by the knowledge shared by your followers. The many comments here are full of ideas from people who have actually done this work. Such is not always the case. : )
I honestly have the *best* people watching these videos, I’ve learned so much and continue to every day thanks to them ☺️ big value in the comments section for sure!
Another good video my dude. I don't bother stripping them and my excuse is more time in doors stripping, less time street scrapping but I might also be a bit lazy 😁 Canadian treasure hunter has a great way of removing the copper with a modified claw hammer. Seems to work a treat ✌
I’ll have to check that out from them! I think this video makes a good case for and against stripping them down. Not that I did *everything* right but I bought a $100 unitasker so I could make $200 in 7hrs.. Not exactly a slam dunk 😅
@@thubprint He basically cuts one end as you would normally then takes a claw off a claw hammer and files down the remaining claw to fit in the copper loops and with a little leverage he pulls them right out. He makes it look easy.
Bert from Scrap Farm videos on You Tube does a lot of motors in a fashion similar to you. Now that you have done a bunch there might be merit in watching him to see if there is anything you want to steal for your process. Also, now that I know you have a good process, I will be setting my motor aside and coming to visit when I have a bunch. hahaha.
Take a 2x8,10,12 w/e board and mount your vise, 2-by(2x) so you can recess the bottom nuts. Then temporary clamp or bolt it down to your bench. Great for when you have limited room. If you had a welder I'd tell you how to make a stand out of an old steel rim, angle iron, fence post, a trash bag and some concrete mix. All cheap or stuff you'd get for free.
@@thubprint Works great for my small workshop, like you said don't want it taking over my bench. I also cut a hole in the board and hung it on the wall when not in use. You can see it in my workshop remodel video if you need an example.
I rarely use grinder on motors..selection of bits and screwgun a more pleasant option. I do however use big grinder to open up fridge compresser chambers..extracting the compresser with screwgun..copper is often very accessible on compresser motors
I tore a couple more electric motors down. Sharpened the hammer drill bit and it did not cut the copper windings any better, but still works great at pulling them, once cut. So experiment two, I grabbed a long pair of channel locks to hold the motor and put distance between my hand and the blade, and tried out the old miter saw. Fastest, clean cut I have found so far.
This is what I like to see, I been stripping motors and sealed units for about 6 months now I just do them all with a large flat head screw driver and angle grinder and got pretty good at it but I feel like an air hammer would definitely help me out quite a bit
I do motors, transformers etc. as I get them. After cutting one end off, I use the stanley knife to cut all the string bindings and remove them, coated wires and plastic strips. That end then in bucket totally clean. As yet don't have an air chisel so pin punches used with vise. Have an air compressor so WILL happen. Knock out rest evenly then cut all bindings, cleaning completely- no dealer will get to short change me! Bench kept clean so copper powder can be swept with bannister brush + dustpan for melting when I have a kg or so. So far have a 240 litre wheelie bin 4/5 full, compacted with the sledge hammer- probably 150+ kg easy. Along with the bright shiny stripped wire (90kg) and copper pipe (50?kg) it'll be a while before I cash in because I'm chasing a 1 tonne payday so I can buy a Rotovelo Carbon velomobile (AU$10,500). One hobby pays for the next!
Love the videos I work at a scrap yard here in wv and just to save you time almost all of your motors that come out of washers and dryers are aluminum bound motor as are the transformers that come out of microwaves.
Ooooh - electric hammer! Ooooooh! Makitaaaa. You lucky thing. Love it. And you get a gold star on your paper today for finally using hearing protection! Well done, Thub. There's something vaguely unnerving about watching those copper wigs exude out of the centers. Little skin crawly.
I thought it was super satisfying haha! But now that you mention it, a little bit creepy as well… I’m always excited to have an excuse to get a new toy 😂
On your impactor, the tile bit. Suggestion, think about a fork, only wider teeth and blunted. Better bang per impact. Lastly, a hand held impactor drill with a bit. A lot quicker and less dust. I just took in 280 pounds of copper. Mostly from motors and such I have found on the street the last 6 months. Was very nice having something to do.
Another guy here on you tube (scrapitall) shows what I think is the best way to break down motors; no power equipment necessary! Get a machete (got mine for $5 at a yard sale) and chop them open! The machete blade is super hard and easily gets in between the metal plates that make up the motor body. About 30 seconds and the motor is cut into 2 halves with no copper dust or use of power (electricity costs money and a Bosch bulldog combination hammer drill/jackhammer costs between $120-150 and you still have to buy the hammer bits AND keep those bits sharp with a grinder!). You don't need a mask to filter out that poisonous copper dust and you don't need ear protection. The machete rarely needs to be sharpened since it is naturally tempered to an extreme hardness, harder than most steel alloys. A proper machete is made out of used railroad tracks which is naturally tempered by having millions of tons of loaded freight trains running back and forth over them. High quality machetes should be stamped 'colombia' because they are made in that country out of the many rails in that country that have been abandoned due to the scumbag socialist gov't that is against capitalism.
A lot of those bolts are 1/4 in heads and I found if u have a drill and a 1/4 socket take those screws out and smack the shaft with a hammer on both ends the aluminum plates come off the stator a lot easier
How many joules of energy does your rotary hammer have? Considering several models ranging 5-50 wondering how much energy is needed for scrapping/pulling copper winding out vs what is overkill - anyone?
If you take the smaller chisel but and make a 2 pronged fork out of it, it will work a bit better for driving out the windings. Also if you can secure your vice down so you can work at bench level your back will thank you.
Came here to state the same. Also for cutting, you could try sharpening the tile chisel. Needs to be sharp for cutting. Hopefully it is hardened throughout the the tip.
I did grind the smaller one into a bit of a spoon, didn’t go too deep because I didn’t want weak sides. I’m curious to try sharpening the wider one but again, was concerned about making the work edge too weak
Yea man you're spot on mate but I'm from Dublin and I'm a scraper and most the time I leave them motors but il start stock pileing and scrap 10 at a time get much more only and I do it on me bike but I can't pass a skip with out checking it for anything
just a suggestion take the time to build a proper work bench just for motors and bolt down your vice. also try to have collection tub there so your not cleaning up dirt with your copper.
Batches for sure is the way to. Also doing a batch of one thing such as getting the motors ready for the copper to be taken out. Often when I do the same job over and over I get faster and more efficient. Not for too long though or else it gets too boring haha. Have to find the balance that is right for you.
I'm pretty time poor at the moment - so the motors are straight off the the yard as they are!! The hourly rate is important - but so is the other stuff you could be doing with the same hours! Thanks for your perspective, as always Thub! 😊👍
One tip, you should have a radio or music headset. makes things go faster. then you should weld together a small table and attach the vice it will make it easier. I think if you first saw off the copper and then squeeze out the copper with the percussion drill, it goes faster. But I have no idea I run on a rebar and hammer hehe
I have a Bluetooth stereo on the top of my bench that I’d love to use more often, but recording videos and background music don’t go together, I’ll get a copyright claim 😑
@@thubprint it was boring ... another question stainless is it magnetic or not? then is it just copper around the pump in the fridge / freezer or is it more inside? and I may have gotten a job at a scrap yard and get to drive an excavator, thanks to what you and mike have taught me in matreal! so thank you!
Your awesome! Maybe just take a file and check to see if aluminum before tou waste ur hard work only to find out is aluminum! I found some 50 year old tiny hand files that fit inside easily and a flashlite and magnifying glass to make sure the color of the wire inside either goes all thru or is shiney aluminum helps me save time;)
It is like what I noted with an upload by Bondi Scrapper processing a compressor. By breaking the stuff down and separating on your own time you tighten the economy, increase the productivity of the economy. He only did the one item and got, by my conservative calculation, $ 10.00 to $ 20.00 [ Australian ] extra. Here I'll just go with the calculation provided, that being $ 208.00 [ Canadian ]. The thing being that it is off-the-books labor.
try putting a long notch in the end of the chisel and flare it out where it can grab it to push it out cutting with angle grinder first is best smoother cut and easier to get out plus you might try using drill and take bolts out
If you want to fix your vise waking around, get a front A-arm with wheel hub assembly weld the lower ball joint and spindle bolt or fabricate a mounting bracket to bolt the vice to the wheel hub. this will give you angled surface that will move. if you leave the brake caliper bracket and rotor on the hub you can use the threaded holes in the bracket to create a lock point by using a bolt.. if you can't understand what it looks like vist a u pick salvage yard and look at a suspension without a strut attached in all your creating a swivel table with a vise mounted to it and a locking position
I like to take a utility knife and cut the strings holding the windings then make one cut at the loop on the wire then grab the opposite end at the loop and pull it through. That way no junk in the wire and you don't waste so much wire Turning it to dust. In my opinion it's easier
Motor time, great video Thub! I myself scored a mess of mx cable and aluminium cable today. Breaking it down tomorrow. Have an enjoyable weekend broham.
@@thubprint perks of being a carpenter. The project manager is a part time scrapper too. He sticks to the copper and brass. He let me take some big fuses as well. Slabs of copper. I think a couple are silver coated.
Maybe use an impact (nut) driver and breakdown the motors as you get them, then the cores are ready and waiting for you without having to use the grinder so much.
Lol, I was was laughing watching you fight the vice the entire time. I would have had that thing secured after the 3rd time it fell over. But yeah, just separate the motors once you get them so you aren't having to do all that at once. 30 minutes here and there is much better than a day's work of beating your body up.
Hey man, I really enjoy your scraping videos and seeing all of the valuable metals that you recover and prevent from entering the landfill. You are a very hard-working dude and I appreciate the tremendous effort you put into breaking scrap down into specific types of metal. If I may ask, what are some items that you need that would be helpful to your scraping operation? Any specific tools or equipment that you could use? Thank you for your work and thank you for the great videos!
Loved the video as always...thinking of getting an air chisel....I have a 4.5" grinder, I've noticed it isn't big enough to do the majority of the motors or transformers I get, thinking of upgrading to a 6"...
Same deal with transformers, those laminated sections on some motors? High-silicone iron, worth 10x as much as mild steel trash. You want a little bit of a fork on the blade (like on a nailbar), so that you're not using your wrists to try to steer and control the chisel, it'll self-center on the windings it's cutting. And, you want it shaaaaaarp for the cutting parts, especially in the groove. For the yanking parts, you want a fairly skinny, round 85-degree pin hook - maybe 1/2" on the folded tip, so that you're lazily inserting that and then just pulling away from the vice. Pulling is more controlled than pushing, uses less effort. Or, if you don't want to pull, then a skinny lizard-tongue pushing fork would be the best shape, really dull so it pushes and doesn't cut. Your hammer drill in general is a poor tool because of how absurdly long it is, it's unwieldly versus a normal air chisel would be like, 20% the length and give you tons of control and easy to switch angles and a lot less weigh to hold (but whatever, you go war with the army you've got). And, you already know the big answer... get a gaddam table and mount the vice to it. You're wasting at least 2/3 of your energy, and working on the floor you're hurting your back. If you had a coffee table height you could do this work seated on a rolling chair, else.. a little lower than kitchen table height would be easiest. It's gotta be worth your time.
Fantastic tips, I’m going to try my best to get a better steel price for them! I did grind the smaller bit I’ve got into more of a fork, not too aggressively but enough that it works better. Next time the vice will be mounted haha
I have tried many different approaches to removing the windings. This is the one that I have found to be easiest and most efficient. I fashioned a few pieces of 5mm thick steel bar into long, triangular wedges 20cm long by 6cm. I then rounded over the long edges to help them slide under the windings without cutting them. After cutting one side of the windings off, I put the stator in a vice. I push the point of a wedge under the windings, and then hammer the wedge all the way through. I often use two or more wedges at a time, coming from opposite sides of the stator. The smooth, long wedges make quick work of pulling multiple strands out at once. I find this approach the quickest method short of buying a $30,000 machine. The windings usually just pull straight out with very little effort. My next version will be made of high tensile steel as the points of my current ones tend to bend easily. For now, I just hammer the points back into shape occasionally.
7 hours of motors is brutal. I try not to let them build up for that exact reason. We appreciate your effort
My brother and I just started scraping and yesterday we got 30 free computer monitors. Took 6 hours to strip. Will find out today what all that work was worth. Here's to hoping it was worth it. We just love ur videos. We learn so much.
Thanks so much, I love making them! 😊
I hope you do alright on them, I don’t have a good buyer for Ewaste boards so I don’t pick them up. Nice strip of gold fingers in each of the flatscreens though.
Yea don't waste ur time. We made about 50$ US. Out of 30 of them. Live and learn.
A friend just sent me a video this morning where they used that same tool but split the whole stator right in half then pulled the windings out. No grinding!
Oh that sounds awesome.. they might have had a more powerful version of the tool tho, mine is one of the lighter duty ones
@@thubprint yea, they had an air chisel. Basically the same thing with more power. Wasn't sure what your new toy could do so I figured I'd mention it.
Thank you man! But what i want to thank you for the most is for remaining yourself and walking the walk my friend you're an inspiration.
You’re an absolute gem my guy, all the best 💙
During the video I was screaming omg, secure the vice. Omg cut one side with the grinder first. Omg wrench and impact first. But I watched all the way and you redeemed yourself. LOL. It is some work no doubt but with the right tools and techniques it's worth it. You've proven that. Next time it will be easier. Thanks for sharing the video!
M8 you're a true junkie with power tools . You make life look so easy , hence I enjoy watching you at work and break into a sweat , while you're working . Keep up the good work. God bless y'all.
I admit having an excuse to get a new toy was a motivation behind this video haha
I picked up the Bosh 8.5 amp last week. Game changer. You will want to cut a notch (check mark), in the bit to help grab both rows of windings when hammering.
Deano here from Napa Valley, CA, USA. I have watched hundreds of copper scrapping videos and there are hundreds of ways to do it!! LOL!!
I did the same thing for our shop and we have verytrong electric wire sheers and Also an angle grinder and Dremel will help go a long way. I took about 1 hour and I got about 5xs the amount done.
I'll give you a tip to speed things up.. I used to scrap for many years.. Do it like an assembly line, do all of one thing, then to the next then next.. IE.. First remove all the screws, nuts & bolts; Then do all the slicing the covers off; always making separate piles of same scrap; cut (copper/aluminum) ends off of all; pull remaining copper/aluminum out; further clean cast aluminum housings.. If you just do one motor at a time you are wasting your time.. I used huge 55 gal barrels and had like 5 or more full when I started my cleaning process, when you do just one part at a time, you get faster as you go, you get a rhythm going.. It took me a few years to figure that out.. I fully cleaned everything till I had barrels full of just clean copper, aluminum, brass, steel & so on also had each separated like copper, from no.1, no. 2, all bright & coated; Aluminum in cast, plate, extruded & cans.. I never took in unclean metals, you don't make money that way.. I thank you for sharing. I don't want to sound critical, I just wanted to share how I done it and made a very good living doing it.. Also never sell when prices are low, just hoard it till they come up...
I don’t take that to be critical, that’s a really helpful tip! I did find the same to be true when I pulled five of them out and did essentially that. There’s lots of points where I could optimize but the batch system is definitely the way 👍
@@thubprint I agree.. I did that too.. I always waited until I had at least 3 barrels full to start first part of cleaning motors.. I did the same with transformers and other things.. After a few hours of running alley's and dumpsters, I would separate what was already clean from what needed more cleaning, like microwaves, fan's old school tv's and such.. I normally took a load in to the scrap yards on Fridays.. I checked daily on what the current prices were.. I never sold anything unless it was at least above a certain price point, when below I horded until it came up... I have been watching some of your past video's.. I like that you are showing others how to make some money by scrapping and in our own way making the world cleaner.. I wish I was in better health so I could do it again, I don't need the money, but I loved doing it.. I loved the fact that I could make lots of money on what others threw away.. Just a bit of hard work.. Thank you again for sharing... There is also good money in smelting down some metals into ingots..
Sweet! Love seeing progressive technique improvements you're discovering and sharing. Fyi, the vibration from the e hammer can cause some carpel tunnel problems in the medium to long run, don't forget to always be watching your grip and listen to your body when things start hurting or feeling numb. Thanks for the channel brother!
... also, there's gotta be a bench vise company out there that would have killed to sponsor this video!
Thanks for looking out! I could use a better vice haha
@@thubprint You can buy anti-vibration gloves as well. I use them when I'm sawing or using air tools a lot. You don't want "Raynaud's phenomenon" in the Canadian cold, though that would be more of a concern if you were doing that day in and day out.
I love all the videos man!!! And scraping motors is always awesome 😎
I was gonna fight you over the validity of being the first commenter for grammar. However your name.. it worked. Peace and love homie keep fighting the good fight! ☮
I liked seeing you try different tools and watch you modify the technique on the fly.
I’m learning every day lol
@@thubprint Perfect! You're videos help me do the same.
4.50 nice! good work Sir.
I recommend using a large chop saw for the first side clean cut with no bashing 😊
NJ - USA
a. use the grinder plus hammer drill
b. lay a tarp down to catch dust
also secure that vice to something, it will help SO much, i could tell you were losing lots of time
and the hammer drill has less effect if all it does is move the vice ;)
great video though!
Oh that’s a really solid point about wasted energy bouncing the vice around.. thank you
I agree with other commenters about securing vice and putting a v cut in one of the bits
Loved the video my friend. I've got 2-3 times that in motors to finish processing myself. Everything got put on hold this fall due to my foot surgery, Dad's hip surgery weather, Temps. But I got an air chisel and new hose for Christmas. lol. to do exactly what you did here. Been itching to finish mine up. Thanks for the inspiration my friend. As always you keep it simple and real. See you on the Scrapping Trail.
Heck yeah buddy! Hope both of you have recovered to as good as new, or close to it 💙
Just don’t hurt yourself doing all the motors! As one other suggested I’m going to bolt my vice to a heavy stump, I think that would be the right height and conserve energy by not walking around
@@thubprint We are for sure. Thank you. Got mine bolted to a picnic table outside already , 150 foot hose plus a 70 lbs stripping machine that takes multiple size wires. All new toys. Like I said had to stock pile due to the surgeries but, brother did I stock pile. 2 bay garage. Just waiting on a really nice temperature day to start work. Instead mean time still collecting just been processing the sheet iron until then. I do this for my Scouts 3 groups. We're going to do 2 drop off days and I collect for the bigger items. Last year I processed 15,000 lbs of sheet iron alone. From this and a hospital donating retired items bed, computers, etc, all old equipment a pole barn full. I'm totally stoked for this season.
Hi from Australia. 😁 Mate, you are wise beyond words in the ways of waste.
Simply put. This was fun to watch and very informative. Thank you very much!
Grind the profile down on the first flat blade I think 2 1/4 inch wide one! That’s what I did and I chisel right through transformers that are sheeted
It hasn’t weakened it noticeably? I was worried about making it unusable, I’ve seen people who tried that on their shovels while tree planting and it never works out, chips the edge off on the first rock
An interesting learning experience for all. I am impressed by the knowledge shared by your followers. The many comments here are full of ideas from people who have actually done this work. Such is not always the case. : )
I honestly have the *best* people watching these videos, I’ve learned so much and continue to every day thanks to them ☺️ big value in the comments section for sure!
Those who do have So two do do's is twice a many! Good for T shirt 👕 👍 great video!!!
Reciprocating saw would probably save you time in changing cut off wheels.
Another good video my dude. I don't bother stripping them and my excuse is more time in doors stripping, less time street scrapping but I might also be a bit lazy 😁 Canadian treasure hunter has a great way of removing the copper with a modified claw hammer. Seems to work a treat ✌
I’ll have to check that out from them! I think this video makes a good case for and against stripping them down. Not that I did *everything* right but I bought a $100 unitasker so I could make $200 in 7hrs.. Not exactly a slam dunk 😅
@@thubprint But entertaining none the less so that's a win, for us 😁✌
@@thubprint He basically cuts one end as you would normally then takes a claw off a claw hammer and files down the remaining claw to fit in the copper loops and with a little leverage he pulls them right out. He makes it look easy.
I have an air chisel and if you cut the one side of the moter and the drive the windins out its very easy. And you should secure your vise
Rotary hammer is the shiznet!!
Bert from Scrap Farm videos on You Tube does a lot of motors in a fashion similar to you. Now that you have done a bunch there might be merit in watching him to see if there is anything you want to steal for your process. Also, now that I know you have a good process, I will be setting my motor aside and coming to visit when I have a bunch. hahaha.
Take a 2x8,10,12 w/e board and mount your vise, 2-by(2x) so you can recess the bottom nuts. Then temporary clamp or bolt it down to your bench. Great for when you have limited room. If you had a welder I'd tell you how to make a stand out of an old steel rim, angle iron, fence post, a trash bag and some concrete mix. All cheap or stuff you'd get for free.
I like the way you think 😊
The ability to not have it permanently taking over my small bench would be a big plus
@@thubprint Works great for my small workshop, like you said don't want it taking over my bench. I also cut a hole in the board and hung it on the wall when not in use. You can see it in my workshop remodel video if you need an example.
Im organizing wire while I watch this. Very peaceful
another great video thanks for the help on getting copper out of a motor makesit easy for some of us too.take care
I rarely use grinder on motors..selection of bits and screwgun a more pleasant option. I do however use big grinder to open up fridge compresser chambers..extracting the compresser with screwgun..copper is often very accessible on compresser motors
I used to avoid them but the compressors are pretty easy to strip! The oil definitely helps
I tore a couple more electric motors down. Sharpened the hammer drill bit and it did not cut the copper windings any better, but still works great at pulling them, once cut. So experiment two, I grabbed a long pair of channel locks to hold the motor and put distance between my hand and the blade, and tried out the old miter saw. Fastest, clean cut I have found so far.
This is what I like to see, I been stripping motors and sealed units for about 6 months now I just do them all with a large flat head screw driver and angle grinder and got pretty good at it but I feel like an air hammer would definitely help me out quite a bit
Absolutely! I would like to have air tools but it’s nice learning that there is a similar tool electric style
Loved seeing you come up with a process for this. At my warehouse we just scrap the whole motor so It's cool to see you doing this.
I do motors, transformers etc. as I get them. After cutting one end off, I use the stanley knife to cut all the string bindings and remove them, coated wires and plastic strips. That end then in bucket totally clean. As yet don't have an air chisel so pin punches used with vise. Have an air compressor so WILL happen. Knock out rest evenly then cut all bindings, cleaning completely- no dealer will get to short change me! Bench kept clean so copper powder can be swept with bannister brush + dustpan for melting when I have a kg or so. So far have a 240 litre wheelie bin 4/5 full, compacted with the sledge hammer- probably 150+ kg easy. Along with the bright shiny stripped wire (90kg) and copper pipe (50?kg) it'll be a while before I cash in because I'm chasing a 1 tonne payday so I can buy a Rotovelo Carbon velomobile (AU$10,500). One hobby pays for the next!
I like that power chisel, way less dust then using a cut off disc /cheers ScrapBongo
Breaking motors is hard work but man does it feel good when you cash out afterwards.
Good job and Thank you 👍
Thank you!
Love the videos I work at a scrap yard here in wv and just to save you time almost all of your motors that come out of washers and dryers are aluminum bound motor as are the transformers that come out of microwaves.
I’ve been noticing that too, I’m not sure why but I suppose it makes them cheaper to manufacture
appreciate you sharing your ideas and information.
Ooooh - electric hammer! Ooooooh! Makitaaaa. You lucky thing. Love it. And you get a gold star on your paper today for finally using hearing protection! Well done, Thub. There's something vaguely unnerving about watching those copper wigs exude out of the centers. Little skin crawly.
Yeah, vague is good word, cant quite place it.
I thought it was super satisfying haha! But now that you mention it, a little bit creepy as well…
I’m always excited to have an excuse to get a new toy 😂
Someone needs a huge flat stump to bolt that vice to, I wonder if they have any in Canada??????? 😉😉😉
Honestly that’s the best suggestion yet and I’m embarrassed I didn’t think of it on my own haha
A low, sturdy table.. hmm… lol
On your impactor, the tile bit. Suggestion, think about a fork, only wider teeth and blunted. Better bang per impact. Lastly, a hand held impactor drill with a bit. A lot quicker and less dust. I just took in 280 pounds of copper. Mostly from motors and such I have found on the street the last 6 months. Was very nice having something to do.
That’s a huge pile of copper, nice work!!
Love it 😍 love all the comments too, really helpful 👍 you do make it difficult for your self don't you
Another guy here on you tube (scrapitall) shows what I think is the best way to break down motors; no power equipment necessary! Get a machete (got mine for $5 at a yard sale) and chop them open! The machete blade is super hard and easily gets in between the metal plates that make up the motor body. About 30 seconds and the motor is cut into 2 halves with no copper dust or use of power (electricity costs money and a Bosch bulldog combination hammer drill/jackhammer costs between $120-150 and you still have to buy the hammer bits AND keep those bits sharp with a grinder!). You don't need a mask to filter out that poisonous copper dust and you don't need ear protection. The machete rarely needs to be sharpened since it is naturally tempered to an extreme hardness, harder than most steel alloys. A proper machete is made out of used railroad tracks which is naturally tempered by having millions of tons of loaded freight trains running back and forth over them. High quality machetes should be stamped 'colombia' because they are made in that country out of the many rails in that country that have been abandoned due to the scumbag socialist gov't that is against capitalism.
Goodluck and see you on the next one!
A lot of those bolts are 1/4 in heads and I found if u have a drill and a 1/4 socket take those screws out and smack the shaft with a hammer on both ends the aluminum plates come off the stator a lot easier
Amazing thanks, I can’t wait to get mine done
How many joules of energy does your rotary hammer have? Considering several models ranging 5-50 wondering how much energy is needed for scrapping/pulling copper winding out vs what is overkill - anyone?
Nice!
If you take the smaller chisel but and make a 2 pronged fork out of it, it will work a bit better for driving out the windings. Also if you can secure your vice down so you can work at bench level your back will thank you.
Came here to state the same. Also for cutting, you could try sharpening the tile chisel. Needs to be sharp for cutting. Hopefully it is hardened throughout the the tip.
I did grind the smaller one into a bit of a spoon, didn’t go too deep because I didn’t want weak sides. I’m curious to try sharpening the wider one but again, was concerned about making the work edge too weak
Yea man you're spot on mate but I'm from Dublin and I'm a scraper and most the time I leave them motors but il start stock pileing and scrap 10 at a time get much more only and I do it on me bike but I can't pass a skip with out checking it for anything
Nice job my friend👍. I use a different method but the result is the same 😁. Well done👍👍👍
I use my 7" angle grinder to cut the windings through then tap the windings through the other side. Sometimes I can yank the windings through.
Great stuff as always, keep it up!
Thanks for being here!
I like this soundtrack.
just a suggestion take the time to build a proper work bench just for motors and bolt down your vice. also try to have collection tub there so your not cleaning up dirt with your copper.
I was tearing apart electric motors yesterday just no where near as many as you got there 😂♻🌎👍
Well good on ya! I don’t plan on letting them pile up quite as badly anymore haha
@@thubprint yea when the pile gets high it seems like it's not worth the time lol
Great video
Batches for sure is the way to. Also doing a batch of one thing such as getting the motors ready for the copper to be taken out. Often when I do the same job over and over I get faster and more efficient. Not for too long though or else it gets too boring haha. Have to find the balance that is right for you.
I definitely found that this was too many to try crank out all at once lol
@@thubprint for sure. Got to give your back bit of a break!
Thank you so much for walking us through this. Great job.
I was just excited to have a power tool to speed things up haha
Yep gotta get me one of those.. great video. Definitely worth 30/hr. Keep doing the thing!
You too buddy, thanks for saying hi!
I appreciate that your sharing, interesting process
Amazing guy
Hej hej pozdrawiam z Gór Świętokrzyskich w Polsce 😁🖐️
Love your videos keep them coming
I'm pretty time poor at the moment - so the motors are straight off the the yard as they are!! The hourly rate is important - but so is the other stuff you could be doing with the same hours! Thanks for your perspective, as always Thub! 😊👍
No argument here! Wasn’t worth as much as I thought the job was going to be, but I’m glad I was able to share that
thank you
hello I have a question for you how to undo a fridge to recover everything that is useful is a small fridge thanks you so much
Glad to see you finally got some shelving thub ;) look at all the floorspace you freed up !
Oooooh man! Oh dang I am drooling as in Homer Simpson drools over strawberry sprinkled donuts! A big CHA CHING, BUCU DENIROS!$$$$$
Great video as always 👍👍
Your the best bro I appreciate what you do and you have taught me a lot of stuff to learn keep doing the thing ✅
Thank you! All the best to you!
@@thubprint thanks bud from hello from America to Canada keep doing the thing
Great video mate
One tip, you should have a radio or music headset. makes things go faster. then you should weld together a small table and attach the vice it will make it easier. I think if you first saw off the copper and then squeeze out the copper with the percussion drill, it goes faster. But I have no idea I run on a rebar and hammer hehe
I have a Bluetooth stereo on the top of my bench that I’d love to use more often, but recording videos and background music don’t go together, I’ll get a copyright claim 😑
@@thubprint it was boring ... another question stainless is it magnetic or not? then is it just copper around the pump in the fridge / freezer or is it more inside? and I may have gotten a job at a scrap yard and get to drive an excavator, thanks to what you and mike have taught me in matreal! so thank you!
Fun video
Your awesome! Maybe just take a file and check to see if aluminum before tou waste ur hard work only to find out is aluminum! I found some 50 year old tiny hand files that fit inside easily and a flashlite and magnifying glass to make sure the color of the wire inside either goes all thru or is shiney aluminum helps me save time;)
It is like what I noted with an upload by Bondi Scrapper processing a compressor. By breaking the stuff down and separating on your own time you tighten the economy, increase the productivity of the economy. He only did the one item and got, by my conservative calculation, $ 10.00 to $ 20.00 [ Australian ] extra. Here I'll just go with the calculation provided, that being $ 208.00 [ Canadian ]. The thing being that it is off-the-books labor.
try putting a long notch in the end of the chisel and flare it out where it can grab it to push it out cutting with angle grinder first is best smoother cut and easier to get out plus you might try using drill and take bolts out
Suggestion : mount the vise vertical (waist height) and use the perforator weight to help you drive the wire out the stator.
Love the vid thub!! U the man!! Yeah I can see that electric hammer is way better than not!. And my vise sux too..hahaha
i guessed that the grinder is better to cut, than the jack hammer is better to remove the copper ;)
31 kilo awsome great chash out
great video
Wasn’t as huge a payout as I was hoping but still very much worth doing 🙂
Plus I got all this great footage of copper windings!
@@thubprint ;) but still an great video thanks ;)
If you want to fix your vise waking around, get a front A-arm with wheel hub assembly
weld the lower ball joint and spindle bolt or fabricate a mounting bracket to bolt the vice to the wheel hub.
this will give you angled surface that will move. if you leave the brake caliper bracket and rotor on the hub you can use the threaded holes in the bracket to create a lock point by using a bolt..
if you can't understand what it looks like vist a u pick salvage yard and look at a suspension without a strut attached
in all your creating a swivel table with a vise mounted to it and a locking position
That sounds really clever and I love it
I like to take a utility knife and cut the strings holding the windings then make one cut at the loop on the wire then grab the opposite end at the loop and pull it through. That way no junk in the wire and you don't waste so much wire Turning it to dust. In my opinion it's easier
Motor time, great video Thub! I myself scored a mess of mx cable and aluminium cable today. Breaking it down tomorrow. Have an enjoyable weekend broham.
Nice! Love finding a good stack of material 😄
@@thubprint perks of being a carpenter. The project manager is a part time scrapper too. He sticks to the copper and brass. He let me take some big fuses as well. Slabs of copper. I think a couple are silver coated.
Satisfying
Maybe use an impact (nut) driver and breakdown the motors as you get them, then the cores are ready and waiting for you without having to use the grinder so much.
I think that’s what I’ll be doing from now on, it’ll be less of a chore and save space as well
Lol, I was was laughing watching you fight the vice the entire time. I would have had that thing secured after the 3rd time it fell over. But yeah, just separate the motors once you get them so you aren't having to do all that at once. 30 minutes here and there is much better than a day's work of beating your body up.
I’m gonna have to get a big stump for it 😅
And definitely gonna shuck them as soon as I get them so it isn’t such a chore waiting for me
Hey man, I really enjoy your scraping videos and seeing all of the valuable metals that you recover and prevent from entering the landfill. You are a very hard-working dude and I appreciate the tremendous effort you put into breaking scrap down into specific types of metal. If I may ask, what are some items that you need that would be helpful to your scraping operation? Any specific tools or equipment that you could use? Thank you for your work and thank you for the great videos!
knowing some of your mistakes is well worth it listening to your closing remarks. Steel should be 15 cent pound
interesting video i have about 40 motors i've collected all of the are aluminium body motors, i think ill take the copper out!
I absolutely would 😋
This Vids great 👍 it’s so interesting watch a bloke fight with vice / rotary & the earth .
How can one make this look so hard 🤔...
Years of practice 😎
Loved the video as always...thinking of getting an air chisel....I have a 4.5" grinder, I've noticed it isn't big enough to do the majority of the motors or transformers I get, thinking of upgrading to a 6"...
I’m not sure how often it will be useful but having the right tool made a huge difference this time 👍
How many motors (if you remember) did you scrap in the video?
You gotta do a live bud for q&a
You have a bench and a table what’s your problem mounting the vise
Same deal with transformers, those laminated sections on some motors? High-silicone iron, worth 10x as much as mild steel trash. You want a little bit of a fork on the blade (like on a nailbar), so that you're not using your wrists to try to steer and control the chisel, it'll self-center on the windings it's cutting. And, you want it shaaaaaarp for the cutting parts, especially in the groove. For the yanking parts, you want a fairly skinny, round 85-degree pin hook - maybe 1/2" on the folded tip, so that you're lazily inserting that and then just pulling away from the vice. Pulling is more controlled than pushing, uses less effort. Or, if you don't want to pull, then a skinny lizard-tongue pushing fork would be the best shape, really dull so it pushes and doesn't cut. Your hammer drill in general is a poor tool because of how absurdly long it is, it's unwieldly versus a normal air chisel would be like, 20% the length and give you tons of control and easy to switch angles and a lot less weigh to hold (but whatever, you go war with the army you've got). And, you already know the big answer... get a gaddam table and mount the vice to it. You're wasting at least 2/3 of your energy, and working on the floor you're hurting your back. If you had a coffee table height you could do this work seated on a rolling chair, else.. a little lower than kitchen table height would be easiest. It's gotta be worth your time.
Fantastic tips, I’m going to try my best to get a better steel price for them! I did grind the smaller bit I’ve got into more of a fork, not too aggressively but enough that it works better. Next time the vice will be mounted haha
I have tried many different approaches to removing the windings. This is the one that I have found to be easiest and most efficient.
I fashioned a few pieces of 5mm thick steel bar into long, triangular wedges 20cm long by 6cm. I then rounded over the long edges to help them slide under the windings without cutting them.
After cutting one side of the windings off, I put the stator in a vice. I push the point of a wedge under the windings, and then hammer the wedge all the way through. I often use two or more wedges at a time, coming from opposite sides of the stator. The smooth, long wedges make quick work of pulling multiple strands out at once.
I find this approach the quickest method short of buying a $30,000 machine. The windings usually just pull straight out with very little effort.
My next version will be made of high tensile steel as the points of my current ones tend to bend easily. For now, I just hammer the points back into shape occasionally.
That sounds like a brilliant way to do it with a low investment in tools, I like it 👌
@@thubprint Give it a try.
Melt the copper dust in a furnace to make copper bars.