Joe's answers were correct, Danaher was playing a lot of word games. Joe said the final step was... "Get to a dominate position and work on a submission", then Danaher is like... "Wrong, you need to work on a submission, you already have a dominate position". I mean... that's just semantics.
John: What are the four pillars of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Joeseph? Joe: I don’t know, what? John: A passenger train, traveling 60 miles per hour, leaves Fairfax station at 2:00 PM and heads for Springbrook, 200 miles away. At the same time, a freight train, traveling 80 miles per hour, leaves Springbrook heading for Fairfax. Now Joseph, a conductor on a passenger train cannot remember the last time a freight train traveled from Springbrook to Fairfax at this time of day. He’s not questioning you. It just seems unusual. A conductor on a passenger train has thought about it, and he’s fairly certain there’s just the one track between Fairfax and Springbrook, and there definitely shouldn’t be two trains traveling on it in opposite directions at the same time. You see Joseph, a passenger train is not really a passenger train at all. If you think about all the complexities between passenger trains and heirloom tomatoes, you will find 8 basic anomalies between the Araucana hen and the fact that it lays blue eggs. Blue eggs, Joseph.
"What's step 4?" "Secure position and submit." "You already have position, so what's step 4?" "Submit...." "Correct" (drinks water like a douche) This reminds me of playing a board game with a kid where they just make up rules as the game goes on.
"Joe why do you use the rear naked choke?" "To choke your opponent unconscious and win the exchange" "WRONG, the RNC is used to cut off oxygen to your opponents brain" "......"
Weird mofo thinks he's smarter than he is.. Nobody likes a mother fucker like him but dumb mother fuckers that believe he's as smart as he thinks he is
Danaher was playing a game of "Guess what I'm thinking" and then presenting his thoughts as the only logical response one could have. It's a great way for someone to make even the most knowledgeable individual look like a moron, and frankly it is douchebag move. Joe knows his shit, he just doesn't know Danaher's personal interpretation of everything. Btw, who wears a rash guard to a podcast interview?
I've got to agree. The guy's theoretical exploration was good, at least for non fighters, but Rogan's answers were NOT wrong, the guy was just being a douche.
I've got to agree. The guy's theoretical exploration was good, at least for non fighters, but Rogan's answers were NOT wrong, the guy was just being a douche.
@@Nahom.YT2 1 turning side kick and that guy would be dead. Also Jamie is there so if a fight starts and Rogan gets taken down he'll stomp that creep out.
I would keep in mind he's severely outnumbered, and bjj is 100% useless when facing multiple attackers... Going to the ground will get you fucking head stomped against 3 people.
Eddie would get choked out, and he'd be the first to tell you that. Danaher is the lead advanced black belt instructor at Renzo's academy. Eddie visited that academy and fangirled out about it.
Scott Fraser Eddie knows the death squad are superior at bjj. He likes it it gives him something to chase. John's body is fucked. Sometimes the best teacher isn't the best practitioner.
Macro Everything Around Me oh so true. Surprised he didn't ask Joe " what do you dream of?" Or say quid pro quo Joe quid pro quo . After the podcast I ate his liver with some Lima beans and chetantey.
I respect John Danaher, but God Damn what a nightmare would it be to get stuck in a conversation with that guy. Dude talks like he's all knowing lmao cut the shit my god. Not to mention he's condescending
john jaxon he sounds like a British old friend of mine, the guy talks like he’s some prodigy but very ammy level as far as skill. The fact that he’s British means dick but both are coincidentally British is why I say it lol
Steve MacInnis No dude, he is just condescending. He could just as well have explained this in a way that didn't make him look like a pompous dildo. Wouldn't have taken the extreeeeme profoundness of his words away...
Met him when I trained at Renzo's, real nice dude, pays attention to you when you talk to him. He's just real smart and a bit of an intellectual is all.
I took part in many of Danaher's classes when I trained at the Renzo Gracie Academy. John is really smart, but the whole mystic philosopher bit is actually annoying when you want to improve by learning techniques. In a class of around 50 students, he'd whisper instructions that were impossible to hear. I respect the man, but I learned a lot more from Gregor, Igor, Rolles, and Daniel Gracie.
Brian Steffen - Anyone can see Danaher is thoughtful, intelligent, BJJ practitioner. It's only a joke, you need to get your knickers out of a twist - you need to practice your BJJ skills.
Two things came to light in this clip - 1) John is incredibly knowledgeable and like all the excellent jiu jitsu practitioners looks at things from a body mechanics perspective (something I aspire to mentally get to someday) and 2) He absolutely has eaten a human being. Maybe several.
Double S he was learning the whole time, did you not see the look in his face? he was taught about the importance of the ground game in a much more detailed fashion than perhaps he’s used to. If you missed the part where he got schooled, you weren’t watching: you were listening
+behzigna Lol nah. That look was the "Just get over yourself and stfu" look. John thinks every word out of his mouth is the pinnacle of wisdom. Dont explain things like an ancient grandmaster in a kung fu movie. He could've explained everything he said in 45 seconds but he likes hearing himself talk.
The whole thing was a bjj match. Danaher took control and kept it by asking Joe high level questions he couldn't answer, repeatedly putting himself in a dominant position. He was also in control of Jamie, giving frequent orders that Jamie had to follow or else interrupt the flow of the show.
"why take it to the ground joe?" "well so you can control them better" "no you take them to the ground to minimize their explosiveness in an attack" SO BASICALLY TO CONTROL THEM! this guy was going to argue scemantics with joe no matter what answer he threw out. there.
UnexpectedWonder it is the same, in order to minimize an explosive attack you have to implement certain techniques to CONTROL you're opponent which in turn keeps them from using an attack and it's easier to do that on the ground. I'm sorry but with stand up the only thing you can control is the pace. if you have them in the clinch, or you're at a distance while striking, control doesn't exist because your opponent has the same ability to hit you as you do to him. when you take him down you're decreasing that chance by controlling your opponents movements.
Sky Threader, its not the same. You take them to the ground to make the person less dangerous so you can control them. Joe was part right he just skilled a few steps. You can control in a clinch if you get double underhooks.
@@Max-je2dx you know nothing about mma let's see if John's still einstein after 200 shots to the face his defense isn't gonna be too great when he's unconscious😎
sven olle Thats not the point...he is just 1. asserting his dominance by showing how deeply he internalized the knowlege of BJJ 2. he is tryna teach joe by leading him down certain paths of thought with different clues 3. he asks questions and wants to hear correct answers thats what teachers do
@@Cin9999 exactly these ppl never be taught by a deep thinker before . He doesn't want to just give you the answer find it yourself and you'll have much better understanding
1. Mitigate dynamic explosive movement. Get the fight to the ground. 2. Get past dangerous legs. 3. Hierarchy of pins determines potential to strike opponents on the ground effectively. Work to the best one. 4. Attack with a submission.
@@sacramentallyill You're correct but I think you're wasting your time. There seems to be a high number of comments against the way JD speaks that essentially resort to juvenile insults in poorly written sentences. It's essentially just anti-intellectualism by a bunch of people that don't seem that sharp.
Andre Curran True, but Eddie Bravo has done the same and he seems a lot less big headed...very open to change and new ideas, and admitting that someone else's way of doing something might be better than his, no matter who it comes from
This is the funniest comment section i have ever read, i am in tears and my stomach hurts from laughing.....so many descriptions of this guy in green...the riddler.....i am in such a great mood, laughter is medicine..thanks you tubers
@@art3251 So what if he is? He's earned the right. The fighters and champions he has produced are rivalled by very few living sports combat coaches. He's obviously also a very intelligent, well educated person. Why should he dial that down so some knuckle draggers listening to the JRE feel less insecure about themselves. That's the problem with today's world. Speaking in an intelligent way to show a deep understanding of something and communicating it effectively to share that understanding with everyone is looked down on. It's just another example of anti-intellectualism.
Wow Chill out, I guess Joe's ego is not as fragile as yours would be... It was a funny joke especially because it's relevant. 10th Planet is "new school" and the fundamentals Danaher is talking about is the old school.
Danaher is a skilled expositor. He speaks so quietly, but with such unshakeable and unquestioned authority, that you just have to lean in to catch every morsel. The exposition itself is thorough, principled, and methodical -- almost professorial. He's also a bit scary -- one has the impression of a fanatic who could crush almost anybody in five seconds.
@@Andromeda_CT86 I understand the basics of kinetic energy. Physics 101 covered that. However Pendantry , condescention and patronizing speech were not covered in the course. Why do you ask?
I hate when someone’s asking questions like this,you have no clue where he’s going with it. Very hard to answer right!......frustrating...I get it ,still frustrating.
Could you imagine being his date? "Do you know whats going to happen to you on this date?" 1. Your going to wear something sexy, tight and designer....here take this rash guard, that will do nicely. 2. We will always maintain awkward intense eye contact. Even while chewing your food. 3. This important, dont fail this one.... fill in the blanks( dont get too dark)
Characterizing bjj as a system is perfectly reasonable, but there is no necessary reason to identify those four "steps" in that particular order as the integral steps. I was confused why getting past the legs didn't occur before the takedowns, as if It is true--and it generally is-- kinetic energy is killed on the ground, the legs should not be so destructive there. I'm more afraid of getting kicked while going for a takedown than getting kicked on the ground. Perhaps these steps are not sequential?
John: "You already have the position, so whats step number 4?" Joe: "Attack with the submission.".... John: "Correct" *takes a swig of water whilst looking at Joe smug AF* that was some of the funniest shit I ever seen LOOOOL 7:20
I listened to this live and kinda felt he was asking questions and Joe would answer them logically and he would just disagree and just kept asking questions lol idk it was kinda weird to me. Not saying he doesn't know what he is talking about but it was just to cryptic to me.
1st step is close the distance ( you can't take somebody down from far away), takedown is the 2nd step, 3rd step is achieve dominant position (pass dangerous legs belongs here for me) and 4th submission
Wow that was impressive. takedown, pass the legs, secure a dominant position and submit!! Thank you John Danaher for teaching a tenth planet black belt and JJM black belt how Jiu Jitsu works! We are all 🤯
Step 1: wear a cringe green Lycra shirt to distract your opponent and speak like a wannabe Morgan freeman and boom, poke them in the eye when their not looking... what an annoying teacher he would be
Got schooled makes it sound like Rogan was clueless. He just didn’t follow Donahers weird method of explanation. Clearly the guy who made this video doesn’t like Rogan and attempted to make him look bad. Failed attempt.
as cool as the guy is. he has control issues. evident by him asking joe what should a person do next etc etc so annoying its like a parent telling a child they spilt milk
That’s not the 4 most recognized steps. Danaher forgot step 1: safely close the distance. Danahers step 2 and step 3 are essentially the same thing which is why Joe said the next step is to get the submission. The 4 steps are close the distance, get the takedown, improve position, get the submission.
For as solid a mind as Joe is and I really do think hes solid, hes simply not a great abstract or theoretical thinker. He showed that on the episode with Firas Zahabi when they were discussing the philosophy of science and here again with JD. He is only able to answer Donaher's questions from concrete literal points of view but not the intuitive and abstract conceptual slants that Donaher is trying to apply. I wouldnt say he schooled Rogan though. He just applied his different manner of thinking and discussed the same fundamental concepts through a different lens.
Agree with a lot of your statement. Joe is practical.. Has to witness actual evens to form his mind. Sensei Danaher not only scientific yet philosophical and can look outsider the box. He is a true thinker. Joe is a follower. Nothing wrong with that cause both are needed
John Danaher: "I'm watching you from a rooftop with a high powered rifle. You will listen and you will obey my directives. You have 1 minute to make it to Central Park. You will not engage anyone along the way. If you do, you leave me no choice but to dispatch you with a head shot. Do you understand? Good. Now. Start walking towards the park. You will see a barefoot homeless man, sitting on a bench beneath a purple maple tree, he will be drinking a no sugar added cherry flavored Gatorade, wearing a Rhonda Rousey walk out tee. You will place the briefcase at this mans feet. You will bow three times not exceeding your waistline, repeating three times the words, "I could have been a contender." At this point, the homeless man will offer you a sip of his Gatorade. You will take a sip. One quick, small sip. Then you will hand the homeless man back his Gatorade, at which point he will say, "Give me 50." Here, you will immediately throw yourself to the ground, performing 50 knuckle push ups, while singing the Marine Corps Hymn, maintaining a perfect posture. As you perform your push ups, the homeless man will retrieve the briefcase, leaving you a full bottle of 12 Proper. Once the homeless man is out of sight, you will take the bottle of 12 Proper. You will board a flight to Dublin Ireland, where you will meet a bearded young man, beating up the elderly in a dive bar. You will open the bottle of 12 Proper and empty it's full contents over the young mans beard, repeating three times, "Who the fook is that guy." Once you complete this task, you will exit the dive bar, and enter the phone booth to your immediate right, here you will encounter a passerby with a Boston accent and bald head. This man will say to you three times, "Pump the brakes," to which you will respond three times, "I have." Your tasks now completed to my satisfaction, you may walk away a free man."
The traps Danaher set on Joe were masterful. Joe, Joey, Joseph, you walked right into them. Honestly, when he called the next step, I didn't even realize we transitioned to a new step.
Danaher: what side does the sun rise
Joe: East
Danaher: hmm the sun doesn't rise the earth is rotating.
😂😂😂😂😂if this isn't spot on
The best
I tell people this every day
The statement is a fallacy. A circular argument.
A flat argument. Definitely flat. Look into it.
The key to Brazilian Jujitsu: Describe everything like you're a Hollywood serial killer.
Hahahahahaha holy shit hahahahaha
well if your good you can kill anyone. so yeah be truthful
ahahahhahahahahahahhah reminds me of Robert Downey Jr. in Sherlock Holmes, those fighting scenes....
Hahaha
😂
Who argues jiu jitsu with a guy that wears rash-guards as his formal clothing?
Joe's a black belt in BJJ himself
@@djvibes3704 2 black belts in fact
Hey that's work clothes
Loool
😂🤣
this guy is a bjj master... he put me to sleep without even touching me
Great comment Haha
we aren't even in the same state bruh, he's got the power
oooooooooooooh LOL.
Best comment ever
He did touch he was just too good for u to notice lol
Tony Ferguson is the type of guy to tell Danaher about the jiu jitsu system.
@Dread Man 😂😂😂
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to ankle pick his son while he's taking his first steps.
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to get ankle picked by sound equipment
Charles Oliveira almost tore Tony's arm off lol
Imagine Danaher explaining to a kid how to ride a bike, “Tell me child, why do you want to master the system of bike riding?”
kidk007 He would totally say that! He's awesome though. His demeanor is that of a sociopath and he says he freaks out in his training courses.
Yes child, the next step is to place your feet on the pedals, but why do the pedals help propel the bike? What is the mechanical reason? ;)
Tell me... why does it have two wheels? Hmm?
20 min later: You’re close. But tell me. Why would you “want” two wheels?
Christopher Forno fn hilarious. Ha ha ha
"Hmm yes stability, but there are people who ride a bike with 1 wheel, they are stable" I'm looking for another answer..
I feel like no matter what Joe said his answer was never gonna be correct.
Bingo.
Joe's answers were correct, Danaher was playing a lot of word games. Joe said the final step was... "Get to a dominate position and work on a submission", then Danaher is like... "Wrong, you need to work on a submission, you already have a dominate position". I mean... that's just semantics.
He told him he was correct for step 4.
Wrong. Joe got the 3rd and 4th points close to correct.
Hahaha
John: What are the four pillars of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Joeseph?
Joe: I don’t know, what?
John: A passenger train, traveling 60 miles per hour, leaves Fairfax station at 2:00 PM and heads for Springbrook, 200 miles away. At the same time, a freight train, traveling 80 miles per hour, leaves Springbrook heading for Fairfax. Now Joseph, a conductor on a passenger train cannot remember the last time a freight train traveled from Springbrook to Fairfax at this time of day. He’s not questioning you. It just seems unusual. A conductor on a passenger train has thought about it, and he’s fairly certain there’s just the one track between Fairfax and Springbrook, and there definitely shouldn’t be two trains traveling on it in opposite directions at the same time. You see Joseph, a passenger train is not really a passenger train at all. If you think about all the complexities between passenger trains and heirloom tomatoes, you will find 8 basic anomalies between the Araucana hen and the fact that it lays blue eggs. Blue eggs, Joseph.
danny californi4 Dan Severn levels of riddles here. I still wonder to this day how many apples Mary had in the basket.
Underrated comment
Exactly now tell me child....was it worth it describing this joke just to realize all flamingos aren't pink
Hmmm, that was rather long. How about something like "how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop"?? The world may never know.
Damn that's funny
"What's step 4?"
"Secure position and submit."
"You already have position, so what's step 4?"
"Submit...."
"Correct" (drinks water like a douche)
This reminds me of playing a board game with a kid where they just make up rules as the game goes on.
LOL fuck that kid 😂😂
He's playing that game of ' what am I thinking?...Wrong. Therefore you're stupid.
@@stevenpoole7235 Haha I couldn't agree more
@@dovadude1622 hahahaha
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Joe why do you use the rear naked choke?"
"To choke your opponent unconscious and win the exchange"
"WRONG, the RNC is used to cut off oxygen to your opponents brain"
"......"
"Why do we take the opponent to the ground?"
"Better control."
"No, it's so they can't exercise explosiveness. They lose their control."
:>
Little Uzi your so accurate
Weird mofo thinks he's smarter than he is.. Nobody likes a mother fucker like him but dumb mother fuckers that believe he's as smart as he thinks he is
@@jojojohnson8056 thank you sir😂
*Rear naked strangle
"What time is it Joe?"
"1:55."
"No. It's 5 to 2."
Other way around
Danaher was playing a game of "Guess what I'm thinking" and then presenting his thoughts as the only logical response one could have. It's a great way for someone to make even the most knowledgeable individual look like a moron, and frankly it is douchebag move. Joe knows his shit, he just doesn't know Danaher's personal interpretation of everything. Btw, who wears a rash guard to a podcast interview?
Michael Owens Spot on dude.
only john "the ego" danaher.
I've got to agree. The guy's theoretical exploration was good, at least for non fighters, but Rogan's answers were NOT wrong, the guy was just being a douche.
I've got to agree. The guy's theoretical exploration was good, at least for non fighters, but Rogan's answers were NOT wrong, the guy was just being a douche.
falloutrangerlol Holy crap! That's nuts! Dude has drunk his own Kool-aid.
Nice to see Hannibal Lector took up ju jitsu
Lmfao bruh 😂😂😂
Lmao!!! Hahaha
Kudos to Joe for playing along with this game of semantics
kudos for joe not beating the crap out of that creep
@@robertblake1228 Nahh bro. I wouldn't go that far. John Danaher's legit. A little too condescending, but legit no less.
@@Nahom.YT2 1 turning side kick and that guy would be dead. Also Jamie is there so if a fight starts and Rogan gets taken down he'll stomp that creep out.
@@robertblake1228
Danaher will KILL Joe Rogan, lol...
I would keep in mind he's severely outnumbered, and bjj is 100% useless when facing multiple attackers... Going to the ground will get you fucking head stomped against 3 people.
The one time joe hasn’t had to ask if the guest has tried lsd
😂😂😂
Jim83 J 🤣
Hahaha good one!
Wish Eddie bravo would walk in and choke him out
I don't think Eddie could stand a chance. This guy would bore him into submission
Eddie would get choked out, and he'd be the first to tell you that. Danaher is the lead advanced black belt instructor at Renzo's academy. Eddie visited that academy and fangirled out about it.
Eddie Bravo would fan girl over this guy. Yes, Danaher may have a boring voice, but what he says, you listen to. His skill in bjj is unpresented.
lol
Scott Fraser Eddie knows the death squad are superior at bjj. He likes it it gives him something to chase. John's body is fucked. Sometimes the best teacher isn't the best practitioner.
John Danaher, the Hannibal Lecter of Brazilian Jui-Jitsu.
Macro Everything Around Me oh so true. Surprised he didn't ask Joe " what do you dream of?" Or say quid pro quo Joe quid pro quo . After the podcast I ate his liver with some Lima beans and chetantey.
With a nice kian and fava beans
It puts the spandex on its skin or else it gets step 4 again...
😂😂😂😂😂
@@BobBelson fk me dead. I'll never watch another BJJ Fanatics video the same.
I respect John Danaher, but God Damn what a nightmare would it be to get stuck in a conversation with that guy. Dude talks like he's all knowing lmao cut the shit my god. Not to mention he's condescending
Same, i accept his knowledge and talent but the way he talks annoys the fuck out of me.
john jaxon he sounds like a British old friend of mine, the guy talks like he’s some prodigy but very ammy level as far as skill. The fact that he’s British means dick but both are coincidentally British is why I say it lol
Steve MacInnis No dude, he is just condescending. He could just as well have explained this in a way that didn't make him look like a pompous dildo. Wouldn't have taken the extreeeeme profoundness of his words away...
Why do you keep defending him?
Met him when I trained at Renzo's, real nice dude, pays attention to you when you talk to him. He's just real smart and a bit of an intellectual is all.
I know he’s super knowledgeable about BJJ, but he could have said all that in 15 seconds without the cat and mouse nonsense.
Makes you think about it.
they way he does it makes it much more memorable. He's a teacher, remember.
I took part in many of Danaher's classes when I trained at the Renzo Gracie Academy. John is really smart, but the whole mystic philosopher bit is actually annoying when you want to improve by learning techniques. In a class of around 50 students, he'd whisper instructions that were impossible to hear. I respect the man, but I learned a lot more from Gregor, Igor, Rolles, and Daniel Gracie.
@@demichael5815 Nice! I imagine that would be very annoying tbh (him whispering philosophy at you) lol
The guy is so pretentious, silly as fuck
This guy scares me. I just cleaned my room, vacuumed and took out the trash.
Omfg the comments are fire
He is not Jordan Peterson, what u talkin bout
Wrong Joe Rogan gues your thinking of the red skull lobster guy
Simp behaviour
Step 1 Wear your rashvest. At all times.
Always be ready... even when you bow!!!
@@jamiebill2664 XD guys these comments are killing me
This dude couldn't sniff his farts in any deeper.
Hahahah
Thank you God so fucking smug
john dellatto 😂😂Brilliant
John Danaher is an intellectual and a BJJ genius. You...you're an idiot. So, yeah, there's that.
Brian Steffen - Anyone can see Danaher is thoughtful, intelligent, BJJ practitioner. It's only a joke, you need to get your knickers out of a twist - you need to practice your BJJ skills.
John Danaher should play the Riddler in a batman movie
Shane Gilhooley He's already dressed for the occasion.
Shane Gilhooley lol you nailed it some one else said mummy but yeah put ??? Marks on the rash guard and he is in businesses
Two things came to light in this clip - 1) John is incredibly knowledgeable and like all the excellent jiu jitsu practitioners looks at things from a body mechanics perspective (something I aspire to mentally get to someday) and 2) He absolutely has eaten a human being. Maybe several.
😂😂😂😂
😂
Perfect Cell knows a lot about Bjj these days
Now this is the comment I’ve been scrolling more.
I actually guffawed at this
I must have missed the part where Rogan got schooled.
Double S he was learning the whole time, did you not see the look in his face? he was taught about the importance of the ground game in a much more detailed fashion than perhaps he’s used to. If you missed the part where he got schooled, you weren’t watching: you were listening
+behzigna Exactly!
+behzigna Lol nah. That look was the "Just get over yourself and stfu" look. John thinks every word out of his mouth is the pinnacle of wisdom. Dont explain things like an ancient grandmaster in a kung fu movie. He could've explained everything he said in 45 seconds but he likes hearing himself talk.
jbulletc hey, and if you think that, i get it. i do, i just think he’s trynna teah
Double S get a dominant position - wrong! Pass the legs...gotcha.
I actually like the way he's serious an intense about this. It's funny, but the man knows his stuff.
He didn't 'school' anyone. John just explained what he feels the 4 tenets. A different way of thinking. Thats it.
Well he was taught by Renzo Gracie so maybe it came from there too.
Well put & that places Rogan on the 10th planet bullshit merry-go-round
Joe was out-alphaed on his own show. Danaher was even in control of Jaime throughout.
@@duke3250 Daniher sigma'd the alpha
Creepy dude, imagine spending a weekend with this. That would be hell.
Irish Technical Thinker hell or educating? Stop hating
Yeah people like aidendelgado1 would marry the dude stop hatin
@@JustSomeGuy69420 😂 😂 😂
He seems arrogant, trying to prove he is some guru in BJJ.
The whole thing was a bjj match. Danaher took control and kept it by asking Joe high level questions he couldn't answer, repeatedly putting himself in a dominant position. He was also in control of Jamie, giving frequent orders that Jamie had to follow or else interrupt the flow of the show.
"why take it to the ground joe?"
"well so you can control them better"
"no you take them to the ground to minimize their explosiveness in an attack"
SO BASICALLY TO CONTROL THEM! this guy was going to argue scemantics with joe no matter what answer he threw out. there.
Actually, it's not the same. You can control via clinches, distance, and so much more while upright and/or Striking.
UnexpectedWonder it is the same, in order to minimize an explosive attack you have to implement certain techniques to CONTROL you're opponent which in turn keeps them from using an attack and it's easier to do that on the ground. I'm sorry but with stand up the only thing you can control is the pace. if you have them in the clinch, or you're at a distance while striking, control doesn't exist because your opponent has the same ability to hit you as you do to him. when you take him down you're decreasing that chance by controlling your opponents movements.
Sky Threader, its not the same. You take them to the ground to make the person less dangerous so you can control them. Joe was part right he just skilled a few steps. You can control in a clinch if you get double underhooks.
Yeah that shit was annoying. Unless someone worded it exactly the same way as he would, the answer would have been wrong.
He's the type of guy who would say you did a technique wrong because you weren't wearing the right rash guard and gi at the time that you applied it.
They should just grapple and see who's more right. Haha
@Mark X Amd Joe wont even be disrespected by that COMMENT
Mark X what are you talking about, danaher has the flexibility of a tree, Joe would fck him up like a dead deer
@@verstappen9937 John can't compete anymore hes had serious injuries to his knee and hip. He's just a fucking wizard.
Danaher would twist Rogan up like a Rubik's cube.
Step #5, when all fail, strangle my opponent with my white belt.
omg dude acts like he invented electricity
He is the best coach in the world to be fair so he has every right to talk about BJJ like this.
@@Thismanisright best according to who his dick riders? I bet 20 bucks Nick Diaz puts him in a triangle high out of his gourd😂
@@kushsmoker4206 you really think a one trick can lose?lmao
@@kushsmoker4206 lol you know nothing about jiu jitsu
@@Max-je2dx you know nothing about mma let's see if John's still einstein after 200 shots to the face his defense isn't gonna be too great when he's unconscious😎
Whats step number 4?
Secure position and submit...
Youve already got position
Submit?
Correct. 🤣😂
It's very hard to guess what another person is thinking and what specific answer he/she is looking for.
sven olle
Thats not the point...he is just 1. asserting his dominance by showing how deeply he internalized the knowlege of BJJ 2. he is tryna teach joe by leading him down certain paths of thought with different clues 3. he asks questions and wants to hear correct answers thats what teachers do
@@Cin9999 lol
Wrong
@@Cin9999 exactly these ppl never be taught by a deep thinker before . He doesn't want to just give you the answer find it yourself and you'll have much better understanding
bro this comment section is one of the funniest I've seen
Top 10
Mmmm not exactly, it's one of the most humorous you've seen
@@eazy1174 schools me on 4 tenets of comedy in youtube comments lmao
Joe said:
takedown
position and controll
submission
It's quite the same..
@ Annnnnnnnnnnd douchebag.
1. Mitigate dynamic explosive movement. Get the fight to the ground.
2. Get past dangerous legs.
3. Hierarchy of pins determines potential to strike opponents on the ground effectively. Work to the best one.
4. Attack with a submission.
That moment when he says “correct” and drinks his water is just so condescending lol.
I can't stand people who say correct. This isn't a quiz show
Agree. He is such a pompous fucking asshole
This guy acts like Joe needs to answer his exam questions. Pathetic.
Da Do He was litle cringe, i didnt mind though
He’s actually a real certified university Professor
He's a good teacher. By having the person interact more with the topic, the more they learn N remember.
@@sacramentallyill
You're correct but I think you're wasting your time. There seems to be a high number of comments against the way JD speaks that essentially resort to juvenile insults in poorly written sentences. It's essentially just anti-intellectualism by a bunch of people that don't seem that sharp.
Wanna cry?
I like how he explains it as a clear set of goals, but he's acting like that's the route to victory every time. Dude seems rather egotistical to me.
MrLordofcoffee id be egotistical too if I spent my life tearing legs apart
Andre Curran True, but Eddie Bravo has done the same and he seems a lot less big headed...very open to change and new ideas, and admitting that someone else's way of doing something might be better than his, no matter who it comes from
This guy sounds so snobby and pretentious
MrLordofcoffee When you say Danaher isn't open to change, you show that you just don't know him. He's an innovator when it comes to bjj.
Chuck Pariah Exactly, it's the impression I get. I mean from this video alone he outlines BJJ in a very rigid format
This is the funniest comment section i have ever read, i am in tears and my stomach hurts from laughing.....so many descriptions of this guy in green...the riddler.....i am in such a great mood, laughter is medicine..thanks you tubers
same here! lqmfao
Perfect cell was the best one
..something in the way he talks reminds me of Dwight from The Office
Spot on. Haha
Is this a test or an interview? His ego sickens me. I want to slap that smirk off his face.
Arturo Chacon except this guy is a fucking jedi, and would rip you from consciousness before you even understood what was happening.
TheGrellie I completely accept that, but still does not change the fact that he is a bit egotistical.
I bet you fucking couldn’t lol u clearly don’t roll lol
@@art3251
So what if he is? He's earned the right. The fighters and champions he has produced are rivalled by very few living sports combat coaches. He's obviously also a very intelligent, well educated person. Why should he dial that down so some knuckle draggers listening to the JRE feel less insecure about themselves. That's the problem with today's world. Speaking in an intelligent way to show a deep understanding of something and communicating it effectively to share that understanding with everyone is looked down on. It's just another example of anti-intellectualism.
He's an entertainer, not enlightened.
Barf. Crazy annoying when dudes quiz you like this instead of just explaining something
challenge your brain, think by yourself, confront your opinions
John “Must be a 10th planet guy” danaher
insults joe on his own show... pffff what a scum bag. Joe should have called him out.
Wow Chill out, I guess Joe's ego is not as fragile as yours would be... It was a funny joke especially because it's relevant. 10th Planet is "new school" and the fundamentals Danaher is talking about is the old school.
Danaher is one of the most dangerous men out there and you wouldn’t know it
Ohhh I see... Danaher is the new Helio Gracie?! pffffffff
has he actually won a tournament? Ever?
How does one complicate something so simple it truly takes a master I guess
Danaher is levels above Rogan in his conception of BJJ theory.
I feel like this is the intro speech he gives all of his new students on the first day.
Why is he dressed up as a dinosaur?
A little pretentious but I appreciate good information where I can get it.
Danaher is a skilled expositor. He speaks so quietly, but with such unshakeable and unquestioned authority, that you just have to lean in to catch every morsel. The exposition itself is thorough, principled, and methodical -- almost professorial. He's also a bit scary -- one has the impression of a fanatic who could crush almost anybody in five seconds.
Super intense!!
Danaher whispers so weirdly, I feel like I'm watching ASMR
"Correct." - Gets me every time...
As he takes a sip of water. Had me dying 😂
Get to the point Lex Luther.. ya, we get that you think you're smart..
Kinetic energy ..lol...That green spandex must be affecting his circulation .Step 5 Call a tailor
Bob Belson Man 😂😂😂
step 6 - smell your polyester socks & pretend it's your girlfriend's twat!
What confuses you about kinetic energy?
@@Andromeda_CT86 I understand the basics of kinetic energy. Physics 101 covered that. However Pendantry , condescention and patronizing speech were not covered in the course. Why do you ask?
this video is going straight in my favorites!
I bet this dude was most likely to be a creepy serial killer in his High School yearbook..
THE BJJ WHISPERER-LMAO
I hate when someone’s asking questions like this,you have no clue where he’s going with it. Very hard to answer right!......frustrating...I get it ,still frustrating.
Could you imagine being his date?
"Do you know whats going to happen to you on this date?"
1. Your going to wear something sexy, tight and designer....here take this rash guard, that will do nicely.
2. We will always maintain awkward intense eye contact. Even while chewing your food.
3. This important, dont fail this one.... fill in the blanks( dont get too dark)
@Jane Doe yeah..you got a problem with that....Jane
@@alex_wolf ouch... good one
This is so bad ass. I just paid all my child support. And even gave the lady at the desk a tip. Lol
"You must be a 10th planet black belt" 😄😁 What a G!
I didn’t get that...could you tell me the steps again. Slower this time ...
😂
he thinks hes smart lol wtf is with his questioning, u can tell joe is annoyed
It''s called the Socratic method.
Look up the definition of that word please lol
Not necessary.
You're projecting your own annoyance on to Joe.
ghostbb bentley no. Joe sees it as an challange and is honoured
This guy is absolutely, head over heels, in love with his own voice and opinions
Characterizing bjj as a system is perfectly reasonable, but there is no necessary reason to identify those four "steps" in that particular order as the integral steps. I was confused why getting past the legs didn't occur before the takedowns, as if It is true--and it generally is-- kinetic energy is killed on the ground, the legs should not be so destructive there. I'm more afraid of getting kicked while going for a takedown than getting kicked on the ground. Perhaps these steps are not sequential?
His in depth analysis of every aspect of jiu jitsu have led to his success
Eddie vs. John, my money is on Eddie. Make it happen Dana.
I understand john danaher is a bjj legend but smug isn't the word lol
Dan Findlay dude wears a rash guard as his street clothes, whadda expect
There is an air of 'holier than thou' arrogance about him.
"Bjj legend"???? Really?? How come? Has he ever fought anyone??
I figured he would say step 1. Walk away or calm the situation. Avoid the fight, don’t seek it!
Joe didn't get schooled. No one ever stops learning BJJ/combat arts
Danahers mindset is amazing. This is why his team generates some of the best in the world! ...P.S. WHERE THE HECK IS PART 2?
Danaher is great. Highly educated, very well spoken, very experienced in jiujitsu. I would love to train with him.
John: "You already have the position, so whats step number 4?" Joe: "Attack with the submission.".... John: "Correct" *takes a swig of water whilst looking at Joe smug AF* that was some of the funniest shit I ever seen LOOOOL 7:20
The look on Joe's face was brilliant, like he wanted a biscuit for answering correctly.
He definitely was taking the piss out of him.
I bet Eddie Bravo can get this guy in the Electric Chair in under 30 seconds.
Eddie was pulling those moves on royler Gracie. He'd fuckin twist and turn this guy like a wet towel, especially after that 10th planet joke he said.
I'd buy a pay per view of Eddie vs Danaher grapple match, even if Eddie would have him in 20 seconds.
Incorrect
I guarantee you Danaher would destroy Bravo
I listened to this live and kinda felt he was asking questions and Joe would answer them logically and he would just disagree and just kept asking questions lol idk it was kinda weird to me. Not saying he doesn't know what he is talking about but it was just to cryptic to me.
Him: What’s the event at the Olympic Games that requires the most energy...transfer of energy?
Me: The lighting of the flame!
1st step is close the distance ( you can't take somebody down from far away), takedown is the 2nd step, 3rd step is achieve dominant position (pass dangerous legs belongs here for me) and 4th submission
Wow that was impressive. takedown, pass the legs, secure a dominant position and submit!! Thank you John Danaher for teaching a tenth planet black belt and JJM black belt how Jiu Jitsu works! We are all 🤯
he sounds like a villain out of a bond movie
David Humphries 100%
This guy just "controlled" Joe from the seated Guest position.
I love how this guy answers his own questions with more questions
rofl
Step 1: wear a cringe green Lycra shirt to distract your opponent and speak like a wannabe Morgan freeman and boom, poke them in the eye when their not looking... what an annoying teacher he would be
I've studied with him. He's the man
This guy reminds me of the liquid metal Terminator from Terminator 2.
Got schooled makes it sound like Rogan was clueless. He just didn’t follow Donahers weird method of explanation. Clearly the guy who made this video doesn’t like Rogan and attempted to make him look bad. Failed attempt.
Not in the least - Rogan was flushed and clearly is nothing better than be a second-rate commentator.
High level practioner. I like how even though joe is a black belt he didn’t act like a prick or got sensitive. Respect to both guys
By 2:15 im just yelling "JUST FUCKING TELL US!!!"
as cool as the guy is. he has control issues. evident by him asking joe what should a person do next etc etc so annoying its like a parent telling a child they spilt milk
Jiu jitsu is all about control...
Just get to the freaking point Frank Gorshin!!
That’s not the 4 most recognized steps. Danaher forgot step 1: safely close the distance. Danahers step 2 and step 3 are essentially the same thing which is why Joe said the next step is to get the submission.
The 4 steps are close the distance, get the takedown, improve position, get the submission.
Chris Gammel I wouldn’t argue with Danaher
Thank you Dr. Lecter
For as solid a mind as Joe is and I really do think hes solid, hes simply not a great abstract or theoretical thinker. He showed that on the episode with Firas Zahabi when they were discussing the philosophy of science and here again with JD. He is only able to answer Donaher's questions from concrete literal points of view but not the intuitive and abstract conceptual slants that Donaher is trying to apply. I wouldnt say he schooled Rogan though. He just applied his different manner of thinking and discussed the same fundamental concepts through a different lens.
Agree with a lot of your statement. Joe is practical.. Has to witness actual evens to form his mind. Sensei Danaher not only scientific yet philosophical and can look outsider the box. He is a true thinker. Joe is a follower. Nothing wrong with that cause both are needed
greatest cliffhanger ever
jvw Absolutely! Perfect timing to end the video
he deff wasnt schooled if anybody was it was the fans(myself included) listening..........
John Danaher: "I'm watching you from a rooftop with a high powered rifle. You will listen and you will obey my directives. You have 1 minute to make it to Central Park. You will not engage anyone along the way. If you do, you leave me no choice but to dispatch you with a head shot. Do you understand? Good. Now. Start walking towards the park. You will see a barefoot homeless man, sitting on a bench beneath a purple maple tree, he will be drinking a no sugar added cherry flavored Gatorade, wearing a Rhonda Rousey walk out tee. You will place the briefcase at this mans feet. You will bow three times not exceeding your waistline, repeating three times the words, "I could have been a contender." At this point, the homeless man will offer you a sip of his Gatorade. You will take a sip. One quick, small sip. Then you will hand the homeless man back his Gatorade, at which point he will say, "Give me 50." Here, you will immediately throw yourself to the ground, performing 50 knuckle push ups, while singing the Marine Corps Hymn, maintaining a perfect posture. As you perform your push ups, the homeless man will retrieve the briefcase, leaving you a full bottle of 12 Proper. Once the homeless man is out of sight, you will take the bottle of 12 Proper. You will board a flight to Dublin Ireland, where you will meet a bearded young man, beating up the elderly in a dive bar. You will open the bottle of 12 Proper and empty it's full contents over the young mans beard, repeating three times, "Who the fook is that guy." Once you complete this task, you will exit the dive bar, and enter the phone booth to your immediate right, here you will encounter a passerby with a Boston accent and bald head. This man will say to you three times,
"Pump the brakes," to which you will respond three times, "I have." Your tasks now completed to my satisfaction, you may walk away a free man."
Hardly got schooled Joe Rogan is a black belt with a high level of knowledge in BJJ and various other martial arts John Danaher is a master in one
And still got made to look child like.
The traps Danaher set on Joe were masterful. Joe, Joey, Joseph, you walked right into them.
Honestly, when he called the next step, I didn't even realize we transitioned to a new step.
This was the funniest waste of my time ever 😂
Austin Telford hahahahaha he was teaching as a deaf man. Repeating same phrase
Get to it, guy! Reminds me of all my professors in pharmacy school. Spit it out, bro!