Estate Sale Find- Simplicity VA Walk Behind Tractor
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2018
- Lengthy repair, startup and working a Simplicity VA that I bought from an estate sale. Bit rugged, was sitting outside for years, but turned out to be a good runner. And it's not another Gravely!!
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Have not seen one of those in 30 years and good job. Does my heart good to see a young man like you saving the old , tried and true equipment of yesterday. Im getting old now and good to know the craft is alive and well. God Bless Jake.
2nd this!
Thanks Russ, that means a lot... This is something that I enjoy doing quite a bit. To be able to revive an old machine and give it another 20+ years of service, well... that makes it all worth while!
russvtguy has it right. It is good to see a young man save this kind of equipment. Grandpa had a 1951 David Bradley...after he died, I purchased the homeplace from my Mom. She got tired of fighting the DB in the garage...so she sold it. I wish I still had it...I loved it.
Awesome machine
Wow, does that bring back memories... I'm 55 now and my grandfather had one just like it that just seemed to be indestructable... It was a beast, but very well balanced and not too hard to handle considering the weight. Great job getting her purring again
love your video's my friend, your so careful to do things right and precise you can actually learn something from them .i always look forward to them, keep up the great work and hope your business is hugely successful.all the best.
Thanks Steve!
I love your classic outlaw country soundtrack in the background... it made me smile.
Awesome job, u have the expertise of someone a lot older. Love ur channel I now subscribe
Love the video! And not only for the vintage tractor (nice design they did), but also for the whole feel, music in the background, etc. wish i could be there with a bottle of beer, look over your shoulder and learn. Greets from Netherlands!
Howdy Bluemoon! Glad you enjoyed the video, and well... the thought of being in the shop!
We had one of these when I was 9yrs old and I wanted to be a farmer (1956). Brings back a lot of memories! Thanks for the flick!
How big of a garden did you cultivate with it?
15X30 if I had to guess?
My dad had one of those when I was a kid. My brother and I used to drive that thing all over our 25 acres. It had a little dump trailer that went with it with a tip-down seat and a foot brake. I still have the trailer but the brake disappeared years ago. Thanks for the great video. Yours sounds exactly like the one my dad had.
Sounds like you and your brother had some fun tooling around on that. One of the older Simplicity manuals I have has a walk behind coupled to that trailer with the brakes. Pretty neat setup...
I just added "not too overly bad" to my lexicon for old small engine repairs. Love your channel!
Haha, spoken like a true tractor guy! Thanks Adam.
such a sweet sound of the engine. and it's funny how they work so well at less than 8000 rpm isn't it. sooooo good.
Sweet save, I got one in my shop a few years ago and the youngster was afraid of breaking things so we put it in the soak tank and little by little apart it came to the very bottom and then each part cleaned meticulously and painted, all together it ran great and he took it home to his mom where she cried when she saw it as she ran it for her folks when a kid herself.
Good save. I like the music too. Wish I was there. THANKS !!
Always love the disassembly cleaning and reassembly of older equipment great job keep the videos coming
Hey Chris, thanks. If I can catch a break in between work I'd make a few more!
@@5Tractorguy how far away from your job that you do here do you work... how many hours do you normally do with your day job versus what you can do here.
Really awesome video.
I'd love to find some old equipment like that and restore it. Makes me want to take a small engine repair course, since my dad was a carpenter and not a mechanical sort of guy, I guess I never got into it either, but I really should.
That is a God given talent to get a machine up and running again! It's a good thing to pass on to your kids.
Like the music playing in the background. Seem like a young guy to be into these old machines
It sounds great! Nice job
Very good job. Very enjoyable video. Thanks
Great save, Jake! Love a great estate sale...haven't seen anything this interesting in my area for awhile now.
Thanks Dave! Going back this weekend, sound like he dug out some Briggs stuff so we'll see what turns up.
Had one when I was 10 my grandfather put a big caster wheel on the back with a small platform to stand on was basically my first go kart lol brings back fun times
Thats awesome! Haha cool to see it running from where it was found.
Haha, no kidding!
Great vid, and great Bluegrass music in the background!
Back in the 1980's at horticultural collage we had many machines of this era mostly unused.
I set up a recomissioning program with one of the tutors as the modern machines where struggling to do their jobs.
Ours where mostly Ransomes and from the Allan company.
Loved working on them and with them.
Peace
Charlie 🇬🇧
I love the radio playing in the back. You got a sub brother.
Appreciate it Josh
Good piece of equipment to preserve. Nice job and video.
Thanks C60.
LONESOME RIVER BAND IN THE BACKGROUND!!!! Earned you a subscriber, bluegrass means your good people!!!
Great job Jake, hard to believe that all those head bolts freed up without any problems.
Thanks 90, your telling me... I figured I'd have to heat most of them out.
Excellent video! Good editing and just the right amount of dialog. Thanks!
Your welcome Tolba, glad you enjoyed it!
a friend of mine whose collects has 8 of em, plus most of the accessories, snowblower, sickle mower, tiller, ploughs
I wish i could find on here in south around me. I am building one using a cub cadet axle. And a big steel wheel tractor as well. From scratch
Good job bro!!
Really cool. My grandad had one of these.
Nice to see a young guy giving it his best shot .. to bring to old girl back to life ....well done.. a spanner man all my life ..😉helo from ireland ..😆
Howdy Lester! Thanks, that was a fun project.
My grandpa died in 1970. He had something like that with a wind the rope around starter Kohler. It had a disc and a cultivator that you hooked to the back. Use to hook up a wagon to it and engage the suicide belt tensioner and ride around.
Cool find! Glad the transmission was in good shape. Thanks for the valve seat trick. I have a cheaper Midland walk behind with a Briggs 14000 that smokes like that. Those machines probably have seen many hours of use.
Me too! Especially with all the water sitting in it. I do have a Wards Power-Trac that came with this. First letters in the model# are MID, from what I read, it was made by Midland for Wards. Neat machines...
I was given two of these today. Both have a snow plow attachment on them one runs the other need quite a lot of work but the transmission is free. The rear end needs freed up
Pretty neat little rig ! Nice save
Thanks Steve
You can use a drill instead of the rope to start the motor!!!! Excellent video!
Helped me a lot ... I what to fix an old briggs to so you helped a lot
Your welcome Shaun! Hope you get it all squared away.
Nice tiller I was hoping you would have painted may I suggest using rusteolum hammerite paint
Think my pa may have had a similar model gifted to him years ago. I've often thought it would be cool to get running. Gearbox outside shape is a bit different, as well as the handlebars, but the motor looks close. Thanks for the tip on a possible company name.
Wow, that is a nice one!
Nice one, runs as sweet as a nut. Well done. 👍👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
David Allen coe, hank williams ii, George Jones, bill Monroe, and tractors. We could definitely have a beer if i were a drinking man👍
And If I too were a drinking man, we could haha. Can't beat that old country!
Came with a antique concrete block too
My inlaws have one that looks nearly indentical to this- bronze colored engine (missing tag) and the aluminum plate for the gear shift indicator seems un readable- from looking at on line pics and you tube, it appears to be this model or very similar. My bride recalls seeing her dad or pappaw use it in the garden. I can't find any of the shovels or attachments on the property, I guess they went to scrap decades back. The engine is stuck but the oil level is clean and correct, the gas tank is dry. I'm gonna bring it home next time I have the trailer with and add it to my long list of "stuff" to fix.
I got many hours behind a V5 as a kid. You should not power shift them. Drop the clutch and then shift gears. Dad loaned his out in 1951 and the person that borrowed it broke the transaction and it had to be replaced. It’s also easier to start if you stand behind it. -KB Chesterfield VA.
How I wish that I can have in the future!
KISS Keep it simple Simplicity" This boy want's toy" Nice find!
They offered a finish mower, snow thrower , land plow, all kinds of stuff. They ran well but when they ran hard the valves wouldn't hold up.
thank you i just bought one the other day
I remember those things ( not perhaps, that brand) they used to use them on market gardens and smallholdings. I have used the big version of this on hard ground, certainly not fun !
Enjoy your channel just come across it 👍❤️
Thank you Charlie! Do hope you stick around for a bit...
Pretty good videography and video editing, too.
Thanks Chris.
smoke is good lube for valves, with the hot gas now a days..older engines liked leaded gas :)
About 1952-1953 my dad had a Gravely walk behind tractor pretty much that size.
I have one of those. That is a simplicity walk behind. I have all the attachments also
Mine has a raisable cultivator on it. I'm currently searching for a new throttle cable and engine shroud for it.
That is SWEET! I had one given to me when I was a kid but it just had the V-step pulleys and SNAILS in the bore. Got it running and the logger/sawyer ended up with it, took some bed rails, old wheel borrow wheels and spider gears out of a truck rear end and an old steering wheel and made a pre-four runner thing BUT it steered BACKWARDS! You'd do fine till you got close to something and then you'd run all over it trying to steer away. I've got a 5-horse 'L'-head with the gear reducer for one. I'd rig another buggy up in a second just like that old one. AND I found a sheave for the kidney mower so it's humming right along. Thanks for a REALLY fine video and I always start toe tapping when yours start running. Bet the old rig would hardly smoke with some 15/40 Delo or Valvoline Series-3 in it!
Nice! The thing must have looked like one of those Wards Power-Trac's. Wards took one of their walk behinds and turned it into a rider, hokey looking thing but cool! Speaking of which I got a walk behind Wards Power Trac with this Simplicity, has the tiller on the back and a BKN Wisconsin. More good video material when I get the time...
I'll be waiting on THAT! I can't remember what mine was. That was a LONG time ago. I just remember the aftereffects of it and all the fun we had. If I ever find another one that'll be what I'll do. I remember I had to push the old thing home and one tire was shot but it ran about like yours did. Belt tightener clutch and the old Briggs looked a LOT like the same engine too.
Ahoj oprava pěkně udělaná a muzika taky dobrá at se daří .
Can I see the belt engagement how it works I have one n broke I can't figure out...thanks you
Nice, thanks for posting. I did not know Simplicity had made a walk behind. Could you feel an improvement in compression after your sand paper lapping?
You bet Tommy. Doesn't seem to be too many of these around here... A little bit of an improvement but not much. It was enough to get it to fire. Once it ran for a bit everything seated back in.
Well done great job with everything
any idea where i could get parts for
Simplicity's sickle bar mower attachment ??
Thanks Norbert, sorry for long delay. As for parts, can't say I'd know. Never had the chance to look around . Best bet might be another Simplicity sickle bar for parts.
I had one of these with a Montgomery Ward label on it. It also had a rear mounted rototiller, a front mounted sickle mower and a front mounted rotary brush cutter (talk about dangerous.) It was truly a cool old machine.
Neat! We had a model VW about 8 years ago that was labeled as a Wards with the snow blower, animal of a machine.
Good job
Awesome!
Shifting it from forward to reverse (or between any of the gears for that matter) without disengaging the drive belt clutch & letting things come to a stop will have that transmission destroyed in short order, if that hasn't already been done. I have 2 of these & they weren't meant to be shifted with drive clutch engaged & the machine moving.
Thanks for the heads up, but I do realize that.
I took a chance just to see how it would work in the garden. It has since been sold and I finished going through it for the customer, including fixing the drive clutch so it disengages properly.
Not sure if you'll see this, but try soaking the gummed up fuel bowl in amonia. It works wonders for old kerosene lamps.
Seen! Just took me 2 months to respond... Thanks for the tip David, I'll have to give it a whirl someday.
What a great old find! So, now do you plan to bring this back with restoration , like clean up, paint and new tires?
I heard you mention "used gear oil" for the transmission,..can you explain why you'd re-use this stuff. It's just that I'm a tad anal about engine and gear oils.
These old cast iron B&S engines seem to be the alternative for the old Wisconsin air cooled cast iron engines we used to sell and service back in the early 1970's.
You've got an old 'gem' of a walk behind tractor here.
Hi Reg! Well to be straight forward, if I can find someone who's interested in it, I'll end up selling it. I'd like to keep it and do a nice once over but I have a lot of machines to get though here (brought home a Gravely 812 and Cub 782 over weekend). May let it hang around for a bit, we'll see.
The gear oil was very lightly used. I drained it out of something that a customer wanted changed no matter what, an saved it because it was still pretty clear. Another reason to use it is because the transmission had water residue and some rust.... mind as well flush it with the iffy stuff before pouring in the new. And if it was clean inside, would've gotten some new oil right off the bat. It is a neat one for sure!
100% There now, question asked and nicely answered. In these circumstances then, I'd probably have done the same thing.
Cheers!
Seems like you'd get a lot of tiny aluminum oxide pieces off the sandpaper falling between the guide and stem, and chewing them up as soon as it's started when you clean valve seats like that. I'd stick with grinding compound and clean thoroughly after using even that.
I agree since it’s not like it takes that much longer to get at the valve cover, keepers, and springs.
Love my glass bead blaster
Best dang thing going!
Something that is better for aluminum parts like carb bodies, is a cheap handheld blaster from Horror Fright using cheap baking soda. Cleans well without damaging or removing any metal. I own a small engine repair shop and that’s what I use (along with my ultrasonic cleaner).
Anything that old that will idle that slow is in good shape. Nice job and cool find
Fun little project! What radio station are you listening to? Great tunes!
Ain't nothing better! It's Pandora radio, have to listen to that since the mainstream radio plays crap on the country station. I think the Pandora stations were "Walon Jennings" and one was bluegrass.
Great music !!! Johnnie C Nova Scotia
What model is that? I may have a manual for it.
I am currently using "Safely" (without damaging original) Simplicity 990372 - Simplicity Sno-Away 7HP 26" Two-Stage Snowthrower 1972 As a Tiller/Furrow"
I bet its nice when its cleaner inside than out. I'm surprised you didn't check the crankcase oil or did not just not show it.
Checked before I started it. Was actually pretty darn clean, like someone changed it not long before it stopped being used.
Thanks
Got one just like it.
Do you have any information on that cultivator? I have the same one that my dad pulled behind our Massey Ferguson mf12 garden tractor
From what I was told, it's a Brinly. Don't know what model though.
All always use PB blaster or WD-40 to loosen bolts
Well five tractorguy, I brought it back to Georgia's coast from the mountains of VA- the engine tag's missing, but the serial of the engine is on the housing 0 679583. The machine's serial is 14603. How close is that to yours? The rest of the Simplicity tag is not readable. Hope all's going well for ya! Happy new year.
Hey Jethro, all's good here! Unfortunately I sold this machine a couple years ago so couldn't tell ya about that tag...
@@5Tractorguy Alas, my hopes are dashed...lol just trying to find some parts breakdowns of the actual tractor (the Briggs manuals are all online) and some detailed pics of how the attachments go on, I don't have any of them.
If you go over to my channel, I have videos of the thing running after sitting since the eighties with a stuck engine!
Nice 👍
We had one on the farm in the late 50’s. We had a sulky with a seat you could attach to hitch and a dump cart/ box just behind seat. Front deck mower, and a push blade that could be used in dirt or snow. All were Simplicity attachments. Too bad the crap (any brand) they sell now isn’t built as good as these old models. Attachments are shown on these pages www.simplicityva.com/simplicity/1955.html
Jake ever use an 3/8” impact wrench for head bolts?
Can't say I have... hate to break one off. They either get the treatment in the video or heat. Most of the time have had good luck with the heat...
That was a great find, you sure know how to pick them! Awesome to see it running. Any news on that Economy Tractor by the way?
Negetory on the Economy unfortunately. He moved it to his friends place, looks like they are going to keep it. No big deal though since I pulled home a Gravely 812 and Cub 782 over the weekend! Got my work cut out...
Could you please tell me which make and model made a walk behind tractor that had forward and reverse gearing ???? Also, did they make a powered wheelbarrow ??? Thanks
Boy, that could be a wide range of makes... I know Simplicity had the W, VW, FC, VB, VC and a couple more with forward and reverse transmissions. Never seen a Simplicity power barrow, seen Gravely with one (and have one) but never any other make.
What are you planning with the Gravely one ??? Drop a line with your decision as maybe I would be. Thanks, vnowi813
On this Model 14 I am looking for the governor springs part number or where cn I find them Thank-you
According to my parts manual, there was one gov spring for the Model 14, Part# 26643. And on engines with type number 202636, governor spring 26764 was used. Hope that helps!
Tried to save 2 of these from an across the street neighbor who had them. Unfortunately his son gave them to scrappers
I have a one furrow plow that attaches to your Simplicity from a 1953 unit.
You can have it for free.
I maybe able to find you the original owners manual if you want it.
Thanks Archie, but unless you're somewhere around central MA, I'll have to pass.
Cool
i had one years ago, wifes uncle got it in a trade and i paid him $25.00 for it, used it to plow snow and ended up running over myself once because couldnt get it out of reverse fast enough
It's alive
I’d love to own this
I’d use it for a snow plow
Stuff used to be so elemetal that a few wrenches and some spit could fix anything.
You said it! It's like the 60's GM trucks I own. If you have a wrench set 3/8" to 3/4" you can just about disassemble the whole truck!
Good music
That coil in those Briggs vintage models are notorious for being bad. They short out internally. At least there are cheap Chinese aftermarket ones out there on eBay for ~ $25 or so.
That's good to know. Last I checked online a while back there weren't any replacements, just NOS ones people had for $100/+. Mainly why I was so hard pressed to part with mine!
nice I like it I wish i had one I have a old david bradley and a real old cutingham
+100 for Pigeon Kings at 15:33 for background music!!
So I had to look up Pigeon Kings... great band! But I hate to break it to ya, that be Cadillac Sky picking in the background. Similar sound to the Kings though!
@@5Tractorguy Yup. You are right. Dang, songs like them: ruclips.net/video/AOILySX1KM0/видео.html
...and Cadillac Sky :-O
Wait ... this is it: ruclips.net/video/YIM98g1e8pc/видео.html
OK, 3 is a charm. Found it ...
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Would you know why my planet Jr will not pull backwards . One wheel is stuck .
Pull the hubs off and check the drive pawls, they are supposed to lock up only when the tractor is put in drive. One may be sticky or got jammed up on the teeth inside.
I got many hours behind a V5 as a kid. You should not power shift them. Drop the clutch and then shift gears. Dad loaned his out in 1951 and the person that borrowed it broke the transaction and it had to be replaced. It’s also easier to start if you stand behind it. -KB Chesterfield VA.